Shadow of War - Blade of Galadriel DLC - Final Boss Talion & Ending

[@AyZeD]

Her telling him he's not alone was the last bullshit straw that broke the camel's back and sent him over to the dark side

[@valentinecresent9620]

Talion: Yeah..... you're right. I have 8 evil older brothers and an army of orcs, I'm never alone am I? 😈

[@shadowsrage3021]

@@valentinecresent9620 you are kinda scary

[@wesleybrilhante5989]

AyZeD exactly I love this game more than any other game but that part kill because he did got betrayed by calabimbro and than her

[@wesleybrilhante5989]

AyZeD as a matter of fact I think the only person in the game who stood by him and was truly telling the truth was shellob, and the developers are so great that they included those shelob memories missions in the game and calambrindor was the whole time trying to tell him to avoid to go talk to her because he knew that in some point she was going to review the thruth, didn’t realize until the end that sauron was that person that sometimes showed up dressed in white and betrayed shelob I actually thought that was a woman lol 😂 witch was great more drama to the end of the game when he comes out of the body of the witch king and started to fight ethael and calabrindror ,I started to play the dlc now but feel like it’s missing something lol even with the progress while it’s a learning experience it’s a beginning of collecting all the skills that we already know but it’s like when I put my Xbox on the box and started playing on the ps4 until you get the hang of the controller all over again makes me want to keep playing with tailon that I already have all skills unlocked but at the same time only thing left to do is play online now no more missions,so it’s a balanced or you either play with the dlc and learn how to use the new skills or keep playing with tailon online

[@gruwithagun5462]

@@wesleybrilhante5989 Don't forget ratbag The most loyal orc that didn't even need to be dominated

[@namelessfaceinthecrowd2459]

My heart broke when talion said "I have been fighting this war all alone." And that desperate " please dont let me die in this cursed land"

[@AlwaysBonpoint]

nameless face in the crowd I know right, the feeling of loss and betrayal while embarking upon this colossal task must be immense, poor guy.

[@houseofwolves1967]

It pissed me off when she said you're not alone, i was all like SHUT UP.WE ARE IN THE PREDICAMENT BECAUSE OF YOU!!!

[@rpaplham14]

Talion has been holding the line on his own for decades, that would definitely wear on a person

[@Des7p]

nameless face in the crowd what cursed land?

[@limitedoriginz6109]

Lord Escanor gorgoroth

[@Afrancis16]

Talion: Fights a war against the forces of Mordor for several decades alone and holding the line even after being betrayed by Celebrimbor and Eltariel, knowing that he will be forgotten and eventually fall to the rings corruption just to give the rest of middle earth time to prepare Eltariel: YoU aRe NoT aLoNe

[@iramosv7al415]

Traitor] May you gain some freedom in death Me] what talion should have said and done kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWquh3ycpbN6atk Me] or kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3vVnZiwgduKpLc Me] that would have probably gave the traitor nightmares

[@callum493]

During this I'm there screaming "GIVE HIM THE RING!!!!"

[@BKD1308]

Wait a minute, when we play as Talion our citadels get captured while we defending one, where is Eltariel was, isnt she helping us defending citadels like in DLC

[@Whimsy3692]

Yeeeaaahhh, the second she said that when I played it for the first time, my instant thought was, "Oh, fuck off. Lol. 🤣 -"This is not the end I HAVE FOUGHT FOR!"- -"bUT yOU aRE noT tHE onLY OnE fIGhTInG!"- *-leaves Talion to rot and die-* "Talion, you are not alone." Bitch. Not only is she a bitch, she's a backpeddling bitch.

[@MansoryGS]

@@iramosv7al415 lmfaoooo no no no you will dieee loool

[@michaelkelly8956]

You haven't known true pain until you're forced to kill one of the best characters of a beloved franchise

[@veryshy4367]

right

[@m3tr0id86]

Another is when you are betrayed by the one you trusted the most. There is at least a few ways to feel true pain yours and this one are two out of quite of a few ways to feel it

[@theolddarksoul1129]

Talion is banished from death he always comes back

[@m3tr0id86]

The Keeper Well in this timeline he does, but only after the ring in cast into the fires of Mount Doom and one of the huge flaming rocks hits him and his drake or in what is supposed to be a Fell Beast.

[@Maximaker02]

Well, when you're forced to TRY to kill them, at least.

[@trinityyeet9883]

In the end, the only people who were always there for talion were the Nazgul, they didn't betray or backstab him, they just waited for him to finally join them, they sympathised with him in the meantime because they were all in the same position, they even came to help him against eltariel, they are the true bros of this story

[@lorenzogaspero9758]

and Ratbag!

[@Cuunke]

Ratbag was a real one

[@professormeme6584]

Its funny that the people talion was against happened to be the only people willing to stick by him when others wouldnt

[@ErdnußRiegel6969]

They always called talion "Brother" "You will join us Brother" they were right they never betrayed talion like most of his Orcs and Uruks

[@fathanahmad9893]

What about ratbag?

[@cooperchance7720]

Just to clear up misconceptions- Talion didn't get killed here, she just banished him, you can see the nazgul aura after she stabs him. He dies when Mount Doom erupts.

[@aachaitu]

Cooper Chance Stop supporting that bitch

[@floodrunner_2042]

Sage Savage he’s not supporting her at all. He’s just telling the people that thinks Talion is gone for good during this dlc that he comes back after this event

[@noobkiller11790]

ohhhhhhh that makes sence, i was so confused because I tought hw joined the nine and died that way

[@daniloperisic6119]

STOP SUPPORTING THAT BITCH TALION BECAME A NAZGUL BECAUSE OF HER

[@xavierjones9932]

@@daniloperisic6119 no one's supporting anyone dumbass

[@saunga1]

7:02 - Talion of Gondor. Of all the Nazgul that came before and after him, be they helm hammerhand or Isildur; his fall was, without argue, truly the most tragic.

[@lunarcultist6214]

The only one who took the ring not because of a lust for power or vengeance, but because he still had a duty. Fully aware of what would happen to him.

[@thegamingnoob4304]

yeah but talion dying vs talion with celebrimbor we all know talion dying would win i mean he has more mechanics and everything more experience and i noticed way less people had iron will when he was dying maybe thats a coincidence but still talion dying would beat talion with celebrimbor prolly the only part where talion and celebrimbor is better is elven rage and even then talion dying has the nazgul also i mean celebrimbor with talion mf took out 3 million orcs everytime i used it whle with talion its more like a focus feature while fighting so ill give em that and also due to plot armor eltariel had to win because its shown throught out the story talion is way stronger than eltariel which is another reason its a bot meant to be defeated.talion was also a person played as for a while plus i mean talion wouldve easily won if it was 2 players against each other i believe talion would win almost everytime if talion dying eltariel and celebrimbor and talion fought in a free for eltariel dies easy and i believe dying talion wins but really its celebrimbor talion vs dying talion but i believe with elven rage celebrimbor wins without however dying talion wins

[@callum493]

He went through pain torture manipulation betrayal and a selfish bitch only to be forced to succumbe to the things he used the same ring to hold back.. fuck eltariel

[@only_last8178]

Talion played on gravewalker difficulty, that because he hadn't second chance ability.

[@michaelkelly8956]

Only_last that or he lost any last chances during the Gorgoroth seige

[@TheSwift56]

Only_last would’ve laughed I forthog orc Slayer saved the day

[@alduintheanti-dragonborn]

Only_last Imagine if some random Nazgul or the Witch King ran straight up and killed Eltariel right when she was about to kill Talion. Nazgul: I better get a promotion for this!

[@Nosiite]

He had a second chance he just pressed the wrong button

[@handson920]

@@Nosiite Eltarial secretly had no chance

[@ArkoriusGhaul]

He was a better fighter when he wasn't corrupted. He kicked Eltariel's ass on his own in the beginning of the DLC. Here, despite having all the Nazgul and a crapload of Uruks, he still loses. Sucks that he fell though. He's one of the more awesome characters for all the crap he's been through.

[@idontthinktheysawthatcomin6792]

The Dominus he walked on the strains of insanity.... he went mad.... that’s why he fell

[@haikalmursidie5932]

It's because talion still trying to resist the ring while fighting her

[@leprovokateur7745]

Actually he could have beat her corrupt, just you know...plot purposes...fucking dev they shouldn’t have made this dlc or at least get her killed

[@leprovokateur7745]

@@lorenzogasperoni5510 well the witch king of Angmar lost his soul way before his death, he wasn’t himself and was worse than Sméagol, so the time he became a Wraith kinda normal he has no soul left, here Talion is still Talion, even after Eltariel vanished him he still held back the forces of Mordor for many years, he was still on the right side but didn’t want to give up the ring, he was just getting a bit more corrupt, and Eltariel being an egoist once again didn’t help

[@kadebilden655]

It also took him decades to fall. Tailon’s a beast and Eltariel is an idiot. She’s one of the worst characters. 😤

[@HeyLookImGerman]

The final battle between Talion and Eltariel should have taken place during the events of Frodo & gang's adventure to Mt. Doom. Eltariel intercepts Talion as he tries to save the One Ring. She is ultimately defeated by him, but she delayed him enough so that he can't get to Mt. Doom in time. The One Ring is destroyed. The Nazgul die. The end - fade to black. Special scene after credits: Celebrimbor's ring is lying among some rubble. We see a hooded figure pick the ring up and wear it. The hooded figure removes their hood to reveal their face. Its Ratbag. Coming April 2021! Middle Earth: Shadow of Ranger

[@asexulo]

(Late but) Y E S

[@canadiandemo9073]

Amazing

[@unclepalp7048]

Im currently playing the game, just picked it up few weeks earlier but have already seen all there is lol. Your story is just beautiful 👏

[@Rtr-oh1mz]

It’s past April :(

[@gobrrr61]

Dark lord ratbag

[@bigyoshi5170]

2:13 Holy shit, how can you NOT side with Talion here?!

[@IZ_TUBE]

True

[@knightsotl796]

Same

[@giovannigonzalez6349]

bro i doubt anyone who played this actually wanted to kill talion. I sure as shit didn't

[@AidrianXam]

Only people that don't care about the story would side on her side.

[@Joe-ib3dy]

@@giovannigonzalez6349 This reminds me so much of Ellie and Abby in The Last of Us 2

[@Vibrioidimp7]

Wow. Even though he was unable to free himself from endless torment, even though his family was killed, even though nobody truly supported him, even though he was doing all the work with practically no real payoff, even though he was betrayed by the only 2 other people by his side, he still fought back against evil. Even if Talion ultimately fell to the darkness, he was still a good man, a good husband, a good father, a good soldier, and a hero to the land of Middle-earth. This is no fate for any man.

[@FluffyFrigginFox]

Finally someone with some common sense. Talion is a true hero in every sense of the word. He sacrificed his very own freedom knowing he would eventually fall to the ring. He held off evil for decades even though the ring was consuming him. He did not succumb to the ring right away like everyone else had. He bought time for middle earth to gather heroes to destroy the one ring all the while uncertain if any heroes would come to take his place to save all of Middle Earth.

[@kungfumaster51]

I think Talion is the perfect representation of Sam's speech about the "tales that truly mattered" and how real heroes kept going due to their belief that there was some good in the world, and that it was worth fighting for. He knew what was a stake and as a consequence elected to keep going.

[@gamerguy19981]

I will forever hate this DLC for one simple reason, not because of problems with the lore, or even killing the main character...no it's because throughout the entire DLC not ONCE did she even say sorry for her betrayal, and the reason she did it (having the ability to dominate) she immediately decides that she won't use, thereby making Talion's sacrifice POINTLESS. But that's just me. Thoughts?

[@deltahunter4810]

that's the point. To really show that in the end Talion gave up everything to hold the line and was punished for it

[@Green--X]

gamerguy19981 As a Huge fan of the game, i agree. I hated the chick. Its hard to fine a ACTUAL decent female character who isn't bitchy which pains me to say. Lara Croft is a really good one that i can name off the top of my head but they were either lazy with this character or just made her terrible on purpose. But yeah, Great game!

[@northrustic1015]

I wont play either DLC though I have the pass (was on sale, wanted the 2 tribes for $20 total, and it came with the DoM and BoG DLC). I wont play either because I do not like Baranor or Elatriel. I am sure I spelled their names wrong, lol. I like Talion and would play ALL the DLC if I could be him, but I am not fond of the other 2 characters I bought the game for my love of Talion founded in Shadow of Mordor.

[@DanRivers22]

100% agreed. Talion was the only worthwhile character (also the least appreciated). Eltariel on the other hand was to this game what a hamorrhoid is to the human ass.

[@daniloperisic6119]

Eltariel is a BITCH

[@ottovonweaboo6355]

So.... another middle earth with this girl?, NO SIR THIS GAME ENDED FOR ME RIGHT HERE, RIGHR WHERE TALION DIED

[@darkrodriknight]

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[@darkrodriknight]

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[@glbose344]

He didnt die he is banished. He just fled

[@anotherunreliablenarrator]

@@glbose344 Fairly certain they meant after The Shadow Wars.

[@moutsydumezweni2915]

Ace Commander .have u finished the game?

[@finalxemnasv210]

6:47 That was a badass line

[@saunga1]

Troy Baker, one of the best voice actors in history.

[@raspberryjam3724]

Talion's eyes flashing makes it even better

[@chasehervey2384]

What a call back

[@hazzabrooksy4089]

@@raspberryjam3724 definitely

[@OrpingtonFeller]

I remember Eltariel becoming incapacitated multiple time in the quests so I'm currently wondering how she managed to defeat Talion.

[@Mr-Rinn]

oof That wasn’t Talion anymore. And she’s great at beating Nazgul.

[@couchgamingnews9379]

oof they have to make women strong to please women that don't play video games

[@MissChinBK99]

Couch gaming news Lol, right?! If only they knew how us female gamers really hate this type of female lead. Absolutely hate it to bits!!!

[@MrNoirocla]

Couch gaming news lol what an idiot you are, for fuck's sake

[@m3tr0id86]

Filipe Alves To be fair, do you really want human cancer like Anita Sarkeesian bitching about it again?

[@ebonslayer3321]

Did anyone else notice Talion's eyes when he said "Don't let me die in this cursed land"? They returned to normal.

[@absolplayz8773]

I did, which is why I think it was the last words the true talion said. "Don't let me die in this cursed land" he was fully prepared to die by her hands, but her not even saying sorry for putting him through this fate, only caring about the ring. And then the straw that broke the camels back, "You are not alone" take all of that plus sauron's influence. And you get the nazgul that is talion. And I will forever hate etariel for what she did to talion. And never, not ONCE showed remorse for his fall.

[@sergioplazat3995]

He was not under the control of the dark side of the force.😜 hehe.... ..... talion was much better than anakin😥

[@jonahfalcon1970]

@@absolplayz8773 Oh, was Eltariel there when Isildur was corrupted by one of the Nine? (face palm) The Nine Rings are controlled by the One. You put one on, and you keep it on, you belong to Sauron. Period.

[@absolplayz8773]

@jonahfalcon1970 the hell you bringing isildur into this? This has nothing to do with isildur minus his ring. And the only reason talion has isildur's ring is....wait for it. Because eltariel and celebrimbor betrayed him. By which he was left with 2 choices. Either die and let sauron or celebrimbor take over middle earth. Or put the ring on and hold back the forces. You put on the ring and it corrupts you. The rate of corruption is dependent on the person's will and their resistance. It took talion 80 years to be corrupted by the ring fully. 80 years. But you know what started him down the path of this corruption. Eltariel who for all her worth. All the stuff she spat on about how celebrimbor is evil and that the new ring should be destroyed, takes the ring for herself to finish sauron and leaving the man who has fought a war damn near single handedly to die. And then this broken man. Who wants the war to be over. To just die in his home land. Has to hear from this person who betrayed him, who still wears the ring SHE said was evil, who left hom to die despite his helping her stop the nazgul, and he has to hear about how he's not alone. Again, 80 years of being alone and fighting a war and she says "nah fam, I know I betrayed you but I'm still your homie" I would have snapped like talion too.

[@JeremyTheBreadKnife]

​@jonahfalcon1970 for around 30+ years in-between the main game and the dlc he fights alone galadriel and her ring are nowhere to be found as she doesn't use any of cerembribors powers bcuz funny. And Talion resists sauron for this time alone without her.

[@Naxo_151]

No way....a sequel...but Talion...God i'm gonna miss Talion.

[@NamelessPaladin]

There's definitely a chance of him coming back from the dead ala Gandalf or Glorfindel.

[@Motolmang]

let the man rest he's been through too much bullshit

[@thrakstorm-bringer1482]

naxo 151 I don’t want a sequel JUST A DLC TO PLAY AS A WRAITH , HAVE THE ORCS ON MY SIDE AND KILL HUMANS YOU CAN EVEN USE GALADRIEL SO YOU CAN MAKE ORC CAPTAINS RECRUITED BY HERE AND STAB YOU UNTIL YOU DIE I DUNNO , I JUST WANT TO BE A WRAITH AND NOT EMO TALION ( insert crap ton of crying in agony)

[@lazerwolf952]

Aditya Nayak gandolf was a lesser god brought back by the major gods

[@breakwoodhopper6739]

Conor vs. Gaming he finds peace in the true ending of the game doesn't he

[@nightgazer5780]

The tragedy is, despite being twisted by madness, hes right. Celebrimbor and her (I forget her name, its been a while) Did abandon him. He fought alone, holding out despite the end being inevitable. And he has the right to feel betrayed. But at the same time, Talion was a better man

[@callum493]

I have a head cannon that he at some point found out (from a book or something similar written by sauron and celebrimbor) how to create a ring. He did so and rid himself of the corruption. Helps my conscious and helps level my hate for this dlc.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

@@callum493 that would make for an interesting AU! Might be a bit more plausible if maybe talion learned the forging abilities by experiencing memories of clebrimbor do it. The main issue is tailon is a main with a waining soul, I don’t think he’d have any energy to pour into the ring unlike sauron who’s a maiar or celebrimbor who’s an elf from an age when elves were really OP. Maybe if he used that balrog as a battery pfft!

[@charlospop6583]

I like how the other nazgûl just appear during the fight, after having sensed talion's downfall.

[@friccle_]

“Holy shit we’ve been waiting for this moment for years”

[@BamBam-3886]

Talion knew at the end how of his soul was lost to Isildur ring, but Eltariel was corrupted by Celebrimbors ring just like how Galadriel was sort of corrupted by the one ring in The Lord of the Rings when Frodo offered to give it to her. Hence this show that not just men can be corrupted by the rings, the elves can also be corrupt.

[@Normercer]

Elves can't be corrupted by rings of power. Read the lore.

[@mrpenguin451]

Norska Yes they can but they aren't easily swayed. The one ring could corrupt a Valar. The others can affect elves, if sauron ever gets the ring back the elves would take theirs off in a heartbeat.

[@Flourikum]

Norska A manipulated elf from being with Sauron for several years couldn't take over Eltariel, really?

[@GingerScallion]

In this games reality, absolutely. It’s not canon though, but I personally think it’s well executed in its own regard. It’s chilling hearing that line “I am BANISHED from death, and bound to the flaming eye.”

[@keegan112099]

Norska Yes they can. The only reason they weren't was because they caught wind of Saurons plan and took them off, only when they thought he was gone did they use them again. The ring was powerful a d could even corrupt Maiar like Gandalf. An elf is nothing to the Maiar

[@whatusay4980]

Honestly I wanted her to die. Be like Halo reach ending where no matter how many you killed your eventually overcomed.

[@bigjuicy5630]

Yeah I wanted to play as talion for the boss fight and kill her

[@enzooronademagalhaes6670]

Me too, my friend, me too

[@mmsutherl]

Same here

[@yunusbilece8690]

Me too

[@jackbrumbaugh339]

Yunus BİLECE kinda messed up

[@prod.Rosé]

It tenicly is Etharial and Calibrimbor's fault. If the didn't betray Talion this would have never happend

[@prod.Rosé]

Yep

[@theangrysmegma]

andrew allen Sauron being dominated would have been worst case scenario. Had he been dominated then Celebrimbor would have been the new tyrant.

[@couchgamingnews9379]

The lamb Sauce sounds good

[@dreambigger3201]

Not only saurun would be dominated but also the ring of power would be found and maybe destroyed , celebrimbor is a fool .

[@revancousland2524]

Skywalker gaming I was thinking the same thing and she’s too stupid to admit it

[@dubbingcollapse9966]

Sadly, Eltariel is the true villain here. She betrayed Talion, let him die horribly and never even apologized for that. She is a selfish and terrible person and deserve the most painful death possible.

[@yeetusdeletus9437]

She deserves to be killed by tailon

[@nikhil796]

She would have given him celebrimbors ring

[@Pablo-ck6vr]

I hope in the next game we get to kill her because I genuinely hate her

[@yeetusdeletus9437]

@@Pablo-ck6vr YES A NEW DLC IDEA

[@Sivrn-Val]

@@nikhil796 it was already to late. The moment Talion put on Isildur's ring his fate was sealed.

[@scarletthow4461]

the way he pleads at 0:30 breaks my heart, and the music doesn't make it any better… i'm going to miss him so much

[@Davyjones449]

i want to cry😢😢😢 I do not remember how many times i watched this

[@saunga1]

I know. And his eyes, the last semblance of his humanity was all to return home.

[@gavinking3865]

Yeah the music to

[@littlemoth4956]

2:22 You can’t see the flame in his eyes because what he’s saying is true.

[@joshwhite557]

Ok so talion who has fought for maybe 10-20 years of non-stop fighting and killing and branding countless orcs and has defeated all of saurons lieutenants somehow gets beat by etariel. In no way shape or form does this make sense.

[@MugdhaMahdiShams]

josh white eltariel had celebrimbor's ring remember?

[@johnh5324]

I’d like to think that what made Talion special was lost when he succumbed to the ring. Therefore he wasn’t able to defeat Eltariel. That’s my reasoning anyways.

[@cooperchance7720]

josh white You seem to forget that Talion normally dies to regular orcs or their captains.

[@FezzesRCool11]

Pfft. Must be a fucking rookie Talion you got there. Talion has only died twice, once originally, and once when Eltariel bitchstabbed him in this game.

[@the_dropbear4392]

Connor Slattery he didn't die her, he was only banished

[@cerealkiller4880]

4:37 so that's how it feels

[@OG-Silesian]

how what feels?

[@denhemsmullen8708]

Getting cut without shields

[@217adaptiveperspective]

That fkn turkey That animation

[@Hollow-Eyes]

4:37 Talion actually used an execute. If only it decapitated her, I'd have given this DLC a 10/10 rating.

[@iramosv7al415]

And if they switched rings it would have been a 10/11

[@nurselaykan3721]

0:30 That right there, that did it for me. It’s this moment when you hear exactly how broken Talion is. He no longer cares about revenge or even about trying to continue the fight. He just wants to go home to die.

[@kanyenorth2605]

His eyes also went back to normal

[@09stoneheart]

This ending says everything. When Talion died the place he was walking toward looked more like the Grey Havens to me. I believe that Talion will be resurrected in a third installment of the game that will take place immidiately after he was killed by the explosion of Mount Doom. His task will be to destroy Celebrimbor and the new ring once and for all; bringing about the dominion of men. He will do this to earn forgivness for having become a Nazgul and will be given one of the elven rings of power to do the task. When its all said and done he will go to the Grey Haven, like we saw at the end of "Shadow of War", and depart into the west as a hero and finally be able to rest.

[@Shy4234]

It would be a more fitting end to talion

[@elportero8710]

I think that Monolith is done with this series. Maybe they will a make a sequel campaign in the form of Eltariel fighting Celebrimbor, but they're done making games. Also, if they did make another game then I think it will not be about Talion. Not only would this make sense from a storyline standpoint, but there's just no evidence for it. Why would Talion be resurrected? Not because he was a Nazgul because of the reason he became a Nazgul. He gave himself (willingly) over to Sauron just to protect Middle-Earth from the Bright/Dark lord. If anything, he'd b welcomed with cheers wherever it is that he's going, be it the Gray Havens or Mandos' hall.

[@09stoneheart]

The pass may not be like the Grey Havens as it described in the books, but the developers may be trying to base it on Peter Jackson's depiction. Not to mention there is a moutain range behind Talion, not the sea, as he is walking towards the pass and the Peori mountains should be in front of him if was in Aman going to the halls of Mandos. Also, the last scene with Eltariel shows her as being "called" by Celebrimbor to serve him after having worn his ring for so long. So its unlikely she will oppose him. Especially since we didn't really see her denounce him in the dlc. And defeating Celebrimbor and destoying the new ring may also just be a way for Talion to regain the humanity he lost when Isildur's ring corrupted him. So he can depart into the west as the man he was and not what he became. We will just have to see what they have in mind.

[@sirmonkeys422]

09stoneheart NO. PLEASE NO. HE DIED. D I E D. HE WENT TO VALINOR, THEN LEFT ARDA. STOP MILKING THE FRANCHISE. it's ridiculous enough already.

[@taifhamid1]

well in the true ending it does say that Talion was finally able to be freed from the darkness and you see him throwing away his weapons and armor as he heads into what looks like gondor, i guess it means that he is reunited with his family in death and that after decades and decades of fighting(half of them fighting the dark lord's armies, other half when he finally succumbs to the ring's power and becomes a nazghul) he is finally at peace. I think the game and story could use a new protagonist along with new mission system(make orc armies and conquer orc fortresses gets boring quick, for me at least) also to allow them to explore more of the world of LOTR, i think it would be amazing to see new races, areas outside of mordor and just let the story advance in general instead of pretty much repeat what the previous two games did.

[@user-du2gy9cv1b]

“I have fought this war alone” Holy shit that was epic

[@hazardous0887]

Please WB, do NOT give us a sequel with that shitty elf. No one liked the elf. No one is asking for that to happen ..

[@WhompingWalrus]

Seems more like backstory for a side-character to me. Backstory for the next game, when the escaped & unchallenged Celebrimbor commands his dominated Bright army for equally destructive purposes, with her as his wraith along the way. She *is* following his call, after all. We all hate her, but I think that's the point. It'll be so satisfying to kill her & then Celebrimbor, one after another - both elves who betrayed Talion once before.

[@chasehervey2384]

@@WhompingWalrus If I was given the option, I would spam the brutalize button.

[@FraserSouris]

You're missing the point of the story. They made the dlc story to SHOW you how power corrupts you. It corrupted Talion, yes, but the whole point was that at the end, she became a slave to celebrimbor, that’s why she ‘heeded the call’. It just reinforces the point of the main game (and also Lord of the Rings), that anyone can cave to power and the cost of their morals and principles. I like the dlc because it actually makes Etharial an example of this , as she took the ‘moral high ground’ in the main game, claiming that power simply needed to be destroyed, yet now she wields the ring and follows celebrimbor, even after the dark lord is gone. The ending of the dlc is MEANT to show how everyone is flawed when the rings are involved, because she doesn’t even follow her own rules. Hence why Talion gets mad at her and the darkness takes over.

[@dio2599]

@@FraserSouris doesn’t change the fact that they killed off the beloved main character in a brutal and sad way. And then the only one left was some selfish elf bitch.

[@FraserSouris]

@@dio2599 Dude, you're way too attached to fictional characters and refuse to see what the story is going for. I hope you don't ever go and read Tolkien's books that the games take inspiration from. You'd absolutely hate them

[@Mr_Lunatic_Mr]

If she had the one ring, why she didn't give him it?, talion could be normal again and Eltariel could survive with out 2 finger's , it's make no sens to me

[@michaelkelly8956]

Xardasek Nekromanci honestly thats what I was thinking the whole time

[@BamBam-3886]

Xardasek Nekromanci Cos just like how Talion knew at the end how of his soul was lost to Isildur ring, Eltariel was corrupted by Celebrimbors ring just like how Galadriel was sort of corrupted by the one ring in The Lord of the Rings when Frodo offered to give it to her. Hence this show that not just men can be corrupted by the rings, the elves can also be corrupt.

[@couchgamingnews9379]

Xardasek Nekromanci something to due with making women just as strong as men

[@Monkeyboy-hq6uz]

My problem here is which is the true ending tailon because a nazgul or assassin elf keep the ring?

[@Lambothe1st]

Couch gaming news 1) That didn't even answer the question. 2). She's an elf. Elves are typically stronger than humans.

[@Gouto-Douji]

Sucks Talion had to die. I feel like I knew him well, ya know? Been through all that shit, killed and branded all those uruks, witnessed his family die.. And for him to die? Man... sad, I'm finna cry bruh.

[@MissChinBK99]

Right, fam? Damn man.

[@theolddarksoul1129]

He didn't die he's banished from death he came back after she left

[@Gouto-Douji]

The Keeper That is true, I looked it up. But like, still man. It doesn't feel right to see Talion just go away like that.

[@Winslow19]

I am honestly glad he went. That man went through so much and to me, his banishment gave him the chance to take a break in some sense. I am also glad to see that he died. A fitting end for a man who wanted nothing more than to be with his family. Talion was a splendid character and the way they tied up his story was perfect.

[@tyleroquinn6831]

We aaaall saw that coming haha... But by this bitch... Tsk tsk

[@perfectimage1768]

NEVER TRUST AN ELF!

[@lonewanderer1328]

Perfect Image 17 Launching Pelinalwhitestrake.exe

[@daniloperisic6119]

Gimli was right

[@AyZeD]

Elves are like the jews of fantasy worlds

[@daniloperisic6119]

@@AyZeD what then Sauron is Hitler ?>

[@AyZeD]

@@daniloperisic6119 possibly yeah lol. And orcs are the disgruntled German working class lol

[@karmitdafruge1]

I love how high and mighty she acts after betraying him

[@infernothelastelemental514]

So eltariel betrays talion and now she has arguably the best ring with no corruption and her light power. The fact that she has it so good rn pisses me off

[@Sivrn-Val]

The stupid part is that she is going after Celebrimbor now... We all know that ring is gonna fly right off her finger and on to his.

[@GachiBoi]

Typical Mary Sue. She so strong cos she woman, and she have to win. Why she have to win? Cos feminism. Welcome to new wonderfull B*LLSH*T world.

[@FraserSouris]

They made the dlc story to SHOW you how power corrupts you. It corrupted Talion, yes, but the whole point was that at the end, she became a slave to celebrimbor, that’s why she ‘heeded the call’. It just reinforces the point of the main game, that anyone can cave to power and the cost of their morals and principles. I like the dlc because it actually makes Etharial an example of this , as she took the ‘moral high ground’ in the main game, claiming that power simply needed to be destroyed, yet now she wields the ring and follows celebrimbor, even after the dark lord is gone. The ending of the dlc is MEANT to show how everyone is flawed when the rings are involved, because she doesn’t even follow her own rules. Hence why Talion gets mad at her and the darkness takes over.

[@kohtalainenalias]

I sense some dissapointment here

[@SkyStrikeZ]

Step 1: don’t buy the dlc Step 2: press triangle to *shame* the creators for creating such a thing

[@darthshel1603]

I think the dlc itself was pretty good and it showed us Talion as such a badass in those cutscenes. The moment when he says “I am banished from death and bound to the flaming eye” still gives me chills. It’s just that Ethariel is a real piece of shit. Can’t deny that

[@SkyStrikeZ]

@@darthshel1603 true

[@evangoldstein132]

They made the dlc story to SHOW you how power corrupts you. It corrupted Talion, yes, but the whole point was that at the end, she became a slave to celebrimbor, that’s why she ‘heeded the call’. It just reinforces the point of the main game, that anyone can cave to power. I like the dlc because it actually makes etariel look even more shallow, as she took the ‘moral high ground’ in the main game, claiming that power simply needed to be destroyed, yet now she wields the ring and follows celebrimbor, even after the dark lord is gone. The ending of the dlc is MEANT to make you hate her, because she doesn’t even follow her own stupid rules. Hence why Talion gets mad at her and the darkness takes over.

[@kohtalainenalias]

Why such hate. This plot makes great drama

[@thelie6992]

i will not sully my blade with thy blood

[@asherboykin5671]

2:45 Is this what the dlc left us for?!!!

[@maxdabrd7486]

Just realised 4:00 bro does not care, he isn't slowed down by focus, he's just running straight to you

[@twocoolgamer16]

1:35 I would have said give me mine

[@217adaptiveperspective]

twocoolgamer He probably wouldn't be able to take off the ring even if he tried.

[@twocoolgamer16]

Bighat The Star Nomad good point

[@masterchief8637]

Also, he wants to die and go to his family but since middle earth needed a counterbalance, he had no other choice

[@Ninjasoulz]

But if he put on the ring he and celebrimbor made he would be the old talion again.

[@twocoolgamer16]

NinjaSoulz good point

[@dobledewom4074]

You know what could be cool in the next game ? No playing as Eltariel, but as an Orc. Imagine that somehow an orc obtains the new ring and becomes a really badass character, i mean an orc is far more lovable than Eltariel. *MAN HOW I HATE THIS WOMAN AND WHAT SHE AND CELEBRIMBOR DID TO TALION*

[@thatguy4885]

Goodbidea but I would prefer a regular person, or another elf getting perhaps one of the ringwraiths rings or something? Something, cepebrimbor would have to get his ring back to become the big bad like sauron was.

[@nekogamer2508]

So the only way for this orc to have the new ring is if he isn't tainted by sauron's darkness so this orc would help humans is the only way at least we get to play as a orc.

[@FraserSouris]

You're missing the point of the story. They made the dlc story to SHOW you how power corrupts you. It corrupted Talion, yes, but the whole point was that at the end, she became a slave to celebrimbor, that’s why she ‘heeded the call’. It just reinforces the point of the main game (and also Lord of the Rings), that anyone can cave to power and the cost of their morals and principles. I like the dlc because it actually makes Etharial an example of this , as she took the ‘moral high ground’ in the main game, claiming that power simply needed to be destroyed, yet now she wields the ring and follows celebrimbor, even after the dark lord is gone. The ending of the dlc is MEANT to show how everyone is flawed when the rings are involved, because she doesn’t even follow her own rules. Hence why Talion gets mad at her and the darkness takes over.

[@PalashaGabarra]

Orcs can't wield rings of power.

[@mandolorian7884]

Ratbag

[@oskarthenarrator]

To everyone in the comments saying that they hope Talion somehow comes back... do not tarnish the beauty of Shadow of War's real ending. Talion is *free*. He finally gets to see his wife and son again. Let the Ranger have his peace.

[@loneoutsider8004]

It's kind of disappointing that almost nobody realize or even cared about that fact. Thank you for understanding.

[@shadowlurkerthemarauder9667]

If he only had second chance, rolls around like a maniac, counters your hits like crazy, and fires arrows at you while slowing time.. could really be a hard match...

[@aachaitu]

Shadowlurker the Marauder They've ruined the character of Talion with this game. They won't bring him back

[@arandomemail9881]

Sage Savage That's why he Said. "If only he had a second Chance"

[@Goraka91]

That's why they replaced him with a suspiciously similar Elf. She is literally Fem!Talion down to the fucking hood and lack of personality. Even has the same ring!

[@ebonslayer3321]

Ikr? If it was me playing Talion in this situation he'd have no fucking chance in beating this boss fight. Especially if I got my freeze vault.

[@thinhvo3893]

James Buck I would have spam arrow on her leg, and teleport to her using my arrow.

[@coreyeverett5500]

2:14 Okay, Talion has a pretty big point here. Apparently, acting anything but completely selflessly means you turn into a mindless, hollow Nazgul? Stupid.

[@uratheboi1555]

You can be as heroic as god is for that matter but you are not immune to the rings corruption. Eventually they WILL break you and you WILL become a nazghul it's literally what the nazghul say "this is the fate of kings and men"

[@kouyang9393]

Dam......kinda feel sad for him to suffer like this 😢

[@koheletcalaforexclan6508]

Even at the very end, she didn’t apologize Elves and there pride, I guess legolas was the kindest elf

[@hazzabrooksy4089]

It's because he doesn't have a arrow up his ass unlike the other elves

[@minminorange]

I swear could they not have just switched rings. Aren't elves immune to corruption (even without the light of galadriel?!) and the new ring is free of corruption? WHY DIDN'T THEY SWITCH RINGS?!?!?!

[@unitedgamers361]

no, they are not, they are slightly more resistant, but only slightly

[@minminorange]

United Gamers okay but still she has the light of Galadriel, that would help somehow!

[@unitedgamers361]

the power of an elf vs the power of a demi-god. although powerful, galadriel herself isn't beyond corrupting as seen in the Lotr movies, so, whatever advantages it poses are minimal compared to saurons power

[@minminorange]

United Gamers I'm not a lore expert, but this just seemed obvious to me

[@217adaptiveperspective]

Roman Frank Celebrimbors ring has a will of it's own.

[@LostSoul-TeemoMain]

You know what would be fun? Next game you play as *RATBAG* working your way up through the ranks and eventually leading an army against the realms of man Personally i'd love to play with uruk's as my allies instead of men for once Game would work like previous games *HOWEVER* branding is not a thing to gain allies you must defeat them in one on one combat *Cough* Ranger *Cough* since ratbag was never much of a fighter afterall..

[@brettbaratheon9776]

Needs to be a thing, 100%!!! Rat Bag, Ranger-his, and good Bruz!!!

[@DatBoiChucklez]

Nanananananananana Ratbag!

[@Moe_GC94]

As Bad as this DLC was Story wise and Eltariel not apologizing ONCE, i still remember Talions speech to her before the fight to this very day. It is so epic and defiant. Before he falls to the Ring you can clearly see the anger he holds inside of him. 'YOU Speak to ME of betrayal?' That line Hits so hard on so many levels, considering the sheer mountain of pain and bulls*it Talion had to endure just to stay alive.

[@tek512]

This is one of very few times where DLC actually *takes away* from a game's greatness.

[@CenoriaWoah]

Really? I thought this had a ton of great moments. A happy ending wouldn’t have stuck with us nearly as much.

[@tek512]

@@CenoriaWoah The problem isn't the ending itself. We all knew Talion was doomed when he put on the ring. The problem is the insufferable character that DLC forces you to play as.

[@jonahfalcon1970]

This was an exquisite DLC.

[@jonahfalcon1970]

@@tek512 Women in general scare you, don't they?

[@tek512]

@@jonahfalcon1970 Why try to make the discussion about gender? The character in question being insufferable has nothing to do with its lack of dangly bits. If you're going to disagree with someone, then disagree with them earnestly. There's no need to try and prop up your own opinion by making baseless inferences about the person you're disagreeing with.

[@WingTheGoat]

Thanks to Tolkien for writing all those books, without them these games wouldn't have been made. He was, and will stay, for all eternity, the greatest writer of fantasy books.

[@carsenmaxwell3336]

7:10 I think that Eltariel should’ve actually cried seeing that Talion has the most tragic backstory of all the Nazgûl, more so than Helm Hammerhand. She should’ve apologized, stated regret at her betrayal, and everything that man has gone through

[@shemaraddison4164]

Dude eltariel would not win against multiple nazgul WITH TALION

[@LostSoul-TeemoMain]

Plot armor + Favoritism

[@shikniwho7215]

she is train to fight Nazgul, she has been doing this way longer than Talion, and that is not even Talion anymore, it just another Nazgul now. Not to mention, all her gears are to counter Nazgul.

[@haikalmursidie5932]

@@shikniwho7215 I agree with you he just another nazgul now. He didn't really use some of the skilled we use

[@thecommentguy9380]

@@shikniwho7215 he pretty much flatten her ass at the start of the DLC as a nazgul. And being a nazgul likely wont worsen your skill, as you only lose your identity and forced to serve Sauron as long as he's still around. Eltariel beating Talion here while having other nazguls aiding him is pretty much plot armor.

[@LordofFullmetal]

You mean like she fought multiple Nazgul for literally the entire game? Becaaause, that's her job that she's trained for thousands of years to do? Also, she's the player. It would be kinda ridiculous for the player to lose. That's also why Talion won when HE was the player - realistically, he should not have stood a chance against her. He's an average ranger who's been immortal for like a few years, versus an elf with thousands of years of training who is trained to fight the exact thing he is. He's not THAT bada--. He won because he was the player.

[@UnholyEredir]

Even in this DLC, Talion's presence outshines Eltariel by a mile.

[@officerchunk]

To be fair talion if perfectly justified in everything he says before fighting her. She killed him for his ring on that bridge then got put in her place by sauron. Even if she didn't know taking the ring would kill him she didn't offer it back when she saw him dying. She and celibrimbor did leave him and he did fight his war alone. Celibrimbor fought for himself and when she abandoned him she did that for herself. I feel so bad for him.

[@Cruddy129]

I fucking knew this'll be the pre scene before the True ending of the game So Talion overcoming an army of orcs and other beings for a long time, but was bested by some random chick, now that he's properly DEAD, it's what he longed for, but it is just glossed over to one side and now we'll most likely play as this bitch in the potential next game?

[@calebdansby1561]

CBear624 she did have the ring tho

[@Flourikum]

She will be the enemy corrupted by celebrimbor and build up an army to try and capture the entirety of Mordor as well as Gondor.

[@udayveerbhadauria1659]

In the first game, Talion was basically bound to The Eye of Sauron. As long as Barad-Ur stands, he will never die. The true ending shows that he died after the tower fell.

[@devonstark3584]

Udayveer Bhadauria in the first game he was bound to celibrimbor

[@boringproduction1]

That "random" chick was the best assassin galadrial had, wielding the light of galadrial and celebrimbor's ring... So yeah, no, not some random chick.

[@xspeczy4564]

Wait so is Talion actually dead? Tf is this? Eltarial has more plot armour than I thought

[@johnh5324]

Speczy OG he got banished for a time but he’ll return. Don’t really get how this is the “true ending” when the last cutscene in the original game went farther into talion’s story than the ending of the dlc.

[@217adaptiveperspective]

Speczy OG This is after the Shadow Wars but before the true ending, I don't understand why everyone has so much trouble understanding this...

[@alduintheanti-dragonborn]

Bighat The Star Nomad Around the end of the Shadow Wars. It ends right after Talion becomes fully corrupted. If Talion had the ability to kill all his captains at once like he used to in Shadow of Mordor, he could've made a huge blow to Sauron's forces by killing off many of his orcs before they got a chance to return and give another reason for Sauron to hate you.

[@vandeheyeric]

He's dead, but not because Eltie ran him through with the blade. Chances are he just popped back up later to do Sauron's will as another slave. No, he's dead because of the cutscene at the end of the main game, where he was mercifully killed during the destruction of The Ring, Mount Doom, Barad-dur, and Sauron's will, allowing him to finally embrace the Gift of Man with his family.

[@xspeczy4564]

x _ x I actual am xD. If you could can you explain it for me?

[@FourheadWeapon]

I hated the elf

[@FourheadWeapon]

Like she's the whole damn reason why Talion became a fucking nazgul

[@Ginger_Tank]

Filipe Alves this has nothing to do with gender, she sided with celebrimbor and took the ring then left talion to die instead of giving it back to him, she is as much guilty as celebrimbor

[@the_dropbear4392]

Nabil9411 Yeah. She could have said no

[@insane2201]

It's not so much that she's a woman is why she's a cunt by a combination of it being that and an Elf. If you don't remember the Elves don't give to shits about anybody else that aren't in their own race in the Tolkien Verse unless they "prove themselves" like Gimli.

[@denhemsmullen8708]

The elf and celebrimbor are guilty of betrayal

[@Glep440]

The feels when “As long as I have breath in my body my fate is my own”

[@MrUnfished]

Man I wish we played as Talion and SLAUGHTERD Eltariel at the end of this DLC.

[@chasehervey2384]

No kidding, in my image she's worse than Celebrimbor. Talion was right.

[@kohtalainenalias]

This a sort of a feminist triumph here 🤔

[@tallstar513]

"You speak to me of betrayal?" The little shake of his voice is amazing, Troy Baker sent it out of the park.

[@maskedupman5806]

Meanwhile tallion: *walking in a field*

[@dragonsniper2362]

this girl is the whole reason talion became a wraith smh

[@noahgraff-uw8rs]

Idea for a third shadow game: Many many years later after return of the king, some remnant orc tribes are still alive and notably among them is Zog the Eternal. He and many powerful undead orcs, much more powerful than normal undead orcs are in the middle of a dark ritual. You play as an orc that you can fully design and choose the tribe. Your orc Is sent on a mission to interrupt this meeting and kill the cultists with some other warriros, but Zog defeats and captures you and the others, sacrificing them in the process. as part of the ritual, dark magic attempts to retrieve a creature from death, but due to your presence, it goes wrong and retrieves the wrong soul form the afterlife. the green wraith form of talion, pulled from death is brought out and put into the body of the orc. You both go on the quest to kill Zog and let Talion go back to the afterlife. As you go through the story though, you see hints at Dog's plan, and you raise an army to attack his hidden base, but realize it not a camp, but a huge fortress. Zog has been building strength to restore the power of orcs in middle earth again, and his end goal, to raise Morgoth from death once again. You would ally with elves, dwarves, men, and your own army of orcs, some few captains that survived after gallon became nazgul. It would directly transfer your own orcs from shadow of war to this new game. The game would end with a final fight between you, and 1 orc, 1 elf, 1 dwarf and 1 man fighting zog, but right before Zog dies, he whispers see you soon, and says the final phrase to complete the ritual and raise Morgoth. It would end on a cliffhanger and hint at one final game where morgoth returns. This game would be called Shadow of Doom, or Shadow of Middle Earth. It would include all the tribes, animals, abilities and stuff from SOW, but also have new weapons, orcs, tribes, human elf and dwarf followers, mechanics and creatures, including a dragon that you fight, dominate and ride as part of another main storyline. Does anyone have anymore ideas of what would be in this third game?

[@TheClarkBark]

Main game ending: “Talion fought for years against the armies of Mordor before falling to the Nazgul.” DLC ending: “Oh no Talion fell after like 10 minutes lol”

[@kellymccormack8346]

Well you see the DLC takes place after Celebrimbor is merged with Sauron.

[@Nikita-dt7ll]

I know I’m kinda late but talion doesn’t die here, he gets respawned and then the ending of the shadow wars happens

[@cryw1092]

That's what we in the business call "pacing issues" and "failure to establish the passage of time".

[@littlemoth4956]

cry w You can call it that if you don’t bother to use your brain. Obviously this happened at the end of the Shadow Wars, as many of Talion’s fortresses fell. He was banished and reappeared later to be taken by the nazgul. See? It’s not that hard, is it?

[@cryw1092]

@@littlemoth4956 I mean, yeah, I know. We all know. That doesn't make the sudden passage of time without clear indication any less jarring and confusing. That is a pacing problem.

[@SalenVendetta]

I want Celebrimbor banished from existance.

[@cter9291]

This was truly sad, Talion endured decades of corruption and pain from the betrayal he suffered. May Jesus Christ be with you.

[@The_PaleRider]

Amen

[@michaelmyers2409]

My head canon is that realistically eltariel would have died in seconds in a full strength fight against talion however at this point talion was still fighting with himself making him slower and weaker

[@brettbaratheon9776]

I’ve got almost 200 hours playing as Talion in these games, having beaten them both. To see him go down, or be bested here by this squatch is ridiculous.

[@Awesomewithaz]

Line shouldve been "Talion is no more, you killed him on that tower."

[@thecommentguy9380]

Talion, betrayed by the only friend he knew for decades, embracing damnation to bring hope to the world that will never remember him. Eltariel, seduced by the promise to end her long war against the dark, left a noble soul to die and see how he damned his soul for the greater good. Celebrimbor, whose lust for power has betrayed himself and the one who brought him so far, ended a prisoner of his own arrogance and of the Dark Lord's

[@Valeria86533]

2:01 “Such a little thing” - it’s Boromir words))) Do you noticed that?

[@_thefreak_8198]

Oh my god the flashback to the first game where it all started made me tingle inside

[@aleksanderhelt9498]

OmG, the way tallion says "Please!" makes me tear up every time :(

[@WTFisTingispingis]

Where the hell was she when the Fellowship was founded? Coulda used her.

[@DjKingSultan]

she doest exist (thank god)

[@anotherunreliablenarrator]

Fuck no, she'd betray Frodo at Mount Doom and fail, then say it was his fault anyways.

[@asdtgh8895]

"You're suppose to kill the Nazgul then! You can go home" *Talion hasn't died*

[@EskChan19]

I loved the part where she sees his past and finally understands what she actually did by betraying Talion like she did. Talion was a great character, he had a great development throughout the games, he saw through Celebrimbor and to the very end tried to do the right thing, and fought to buy the heroes time even if noone would ever know he even existed. He was a character worthy of this franchise. I get the gist that they planned to make a sequel to this game featuring Eltariel and Celebrimbor but really, without Talion it just wouldn't be the same. I kind of want a Battle For Middle Earth 3 now, and Talion definitely gotta be a playable hero character.

[@thegamingnoob4304]

hear me out in the 3rd one you choose a side orc talion or celebrimbor and each one causes different endings if you win r dont win if you die as talion then the bright lord wins and everyone is enslaved if talion wins he turns on saouron or whatever idk what happens when he wins if orcs win then well it should be ratbag and ranger if you play as eltariel well its the same as talion like if you lose he wins if yyou win he loses

[@LordofFullmetal]

Talion's story is finished.

[@thegamingnoob4304]

True im just saying zog said no dead man is truly dead he's just waiting for someone to answer his call

[@iramosv7al415]

The dlc only made me hate the elf lord and the traitor a lot more and the fact that we had to play as her was a lot worse than doing 9 people at the same time

[@Chi.mer4]

The only way to Continue is with talion Talion was the perfect character for shadow of Mordor and shadow of war

[@Dudebrotheguy]

2:30 this is all you need to see

[@scarletthow4461]

i just realized eltariel's look in 6:59 and how it looked like it physically hurt her to stab him and the way she holds him wow i am all different kinds of fucked up right now

[@Hawk_9308]

“I am banished from death,and bound to the flaming eye”.......The MOST BADASS LINE

[@Ares-gow855]

Bro the Nazgûl are just a bunch of homies

[@IZ_TUBE]

"bright lord dark lord its all the same thing really" Bruz the chopper

[@carsenmaxwell3336]

They really should make a game or something with Baranor and Eltariel’s stories being continued: Eltariel confronting the false Bright Lord and Baranor conquering territory with his mercenary brother and army, and I just realized The New Ring was the only Ring of Power to still have its power after Sauron’s death because it was the only ring free from his influence

[@kaiserreich7041]

Palpatine: talion turn the dark side dew it Talion turns to the dark side Palpatine: goooooood

[@DRAKE_FORTUNATE]

Talion didn't die here. He spent couple decades in preparation, leading up to the war, prior to this fight with Eltariel. After the fight, he fled and became a true Nazgul. He then spent a further few decades searching for the fellowship whem he joined the nine. Eltariel returned during the decades to fight the Nazgul. Later on the ring was destroyed and Sauron waa defeated. Just as this happems, Celebrimbor is also freed. Whether she will unite with him, who knows...

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

Wait if talions still fighting sauron’s armys after this fight, why is he saying so many things that make it sound like he’s obeying saurons will now?

[@geeram001]

“ Mordor made me what I am.” So true.

[@kirin8625]

This DLC fills in the hole after Finishing the Shadow war. The event right before he becomes a Nazgûl. He just comes back and becomes more black.

[@thepermanentshockedface9177]

If only we had an ability where talion could fly like the nazgûl!!

[@lewddewdero]

Can we all just appreciate how fucking badass the soundtrack is?

[@hiddenmonk4914]

Real question... Does anyone care for her to be a main character in the next game? If I see a lot of no's then why would the developers make up there minds prematurely to make a 3rd game about her.... do we really need wasted resources? Rather a different game or the point of view of a new character in the same universe.

[@derekhollifield2189]

I wanted her to die tbh but a new badass character would hopefully be nice

[@MissChinBK99]

Everyone hates her. I don't bloody get how she got a fooking DLC?!?!?!??!?!?1 I could give 2 shits about elcuntriel.

[@dante36807]

Hidden Monk I hate her they had a good thing going I wanted to play as a bad guy talion but nope probably not even gonna be getting the new game

[@theolddarksoul1129]

If they decide to make another game she's going to be the main character Celebrimbor tricked her like he did with Talion idk why it's hard for people to see

[@BrenGamerYT]

Yeahhhhh...I don't really liker her...

[@TheRyGuy1776]

I wish that Talion was that hard to kill when I played as him

[@primalforlorn]

Imagine if a nazgul comes over at the moment Eltariel prepares to land the final blow, instantly locked her down in a "blood brother revenge". Nazgul: Tailon of Gondddooorrr, it is no time to fall herrreeeeee. If witch king is rescuer: Brotherrr, yyoouu besstted us in ccoommmbattt, take controlll of yourseelfff. Tailon then proceed to enter second phase and takes things more seriously, counters all frontal attacks(including executions), uses drains to reduce your wrath, punch you when you are knocked on the ground, unloads his quiver of arrows after jumping off your back and uses pin/shadow strike when you are escaping to heal, in addition to all other abilities a player would use. It became so difficult that game critics would see this dlc as almost unbeatable uneven in easy difficulty, and cement this fight as one of the most legendary fight in all gaming histroy. And monolith would released a game patch a few days later reducing difficulty of the final fight in easy difficulty.

[@P..................]

If the Witch King is the rescuer, all the Nazghuls could also come back. And you'd have to beat them all + Witch King at once, and to make things harder, Witch King could probably stab you after doing the "Blood Brother Revenge" And take 45% of the Player's health

[@TheTuxedoMaskDarien]

Or the other realization that's come to me is maybe it's just really easy to hate on it new character then to hate on one that you've grown so accustomed to

[@chasehervey2384]

Nope, she's a crap nugget.

[@keaganshort3374]

There’s no way in hell that petty blonde was able to defeat Talion. Especially the one we see in this DLC

[@chasehervey2384]

Seriously, it took her three hours to do a front flip, and she never used Celebrimbor's ring. Plus, I remember when Talion fought Suladan, I had to revive her like 6 or 7 times. She should've died in this dlc. Justice for Talion.

[@stephanewillier9956]

If there ever is a third game i want Celebrembor to suffer

[@jefdeiron2366]

hurmmm... I thought talion was dead when he was crushed by the rock while riding dragon at the finishing scene after u complete all the conquering stage?

[@allenthegamer6482]

Muhammad Nazif that takes place wayyy later, this takes place just after the shadow wars, but before the true ending, he becomes the Nazgûl here then dies later.

[@mrpenguin451]

He will die years later.

[@GeekHelix]

I still remember this. And I still remember letting Eltariel die and accepting that was the canon ending for me. Games have real problems with trying to force me to play the actual villains.

[@johnkennedykennedy4228]

Talion had a good reason to get pissed, they took his empire away

[@demochris1786]

That's not talion anymore remember? He said talion is no more.

[@demochris1786]

@Noah Leopold I see but I don't get it why would celebrimbor betray talion Was it lust for power or just for Sauron

[@elektra8535]

@@demochris1786 I think celebrimbor got corrupted by his own ring, also he and talion always argue of what to do, and his limit was when talion kill isildur, he basically changed a friend/commrade for a puppet who's gonna do whatever he wants