Shadow systems CR920P ( We may have a problem)

[@BanditApache-nd6lu]

I own six Shadow Systems pistols. All have seen over 1,000 round of mixed ammo. I have not had one malfunction of any kind. Absolutely flawless. 👍

[@fredrauch1815]

The manual is very clear for a need for a break in period. I have an XR920. Used very thin oil for lubrication and 124 grain ammo for the first 200 rounds. Ran perfect.

[@jackbauer9077]

There is a 200 round break in. I just bought one, shot yesterday day 1st round failed to pick up next round but after that it was 100%. I had Little gun cooking, I shot 700 rounds of 115 ball Remington and 100 124 grain blazer. 50 rounds of Winchester hollow points. Great gun! Recoil was way reduced! Love the gun

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Great to hear! And that was my first thought also, I just wasn't sure since my cr920 never had that break in period! That's why I didn't give my final thoughts until I have a few hundred more through it! Thanks for watching!!

[@808G8GT]

I think to break in you should run a little hotter ammo. This gun is tight from the factory. The manual actually says to use +P ammo

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Yea that will be my plan now I just like to run a variety to see how they function

[@rickl5757]

Agree. My MR920 doesn’t like 115 so I always run 124 and no issues ever. I can run 115 now since it’s very broken in but in the beginning it would not run well at all with it.

[@tobiasrex8052]

​@rickl5757 I recently purchased a CR920p and it ran a little over 200+ rounds of 115 Winchester white box and luckily had no issues to report on. The gun shoots beautifully flat for a micro 9.

[@raletky]

I disagree with people saying there is a 200 round break in, and that is the reason for the malfunction. No polymer striker fired gun should have malfunctions that frequently during the break in period. It is well known that S&B manufacturers handgun ammo to higher pressures than other manufacturers. That leads me to believe that the gun is oversprung, leading to it not running correctly with weaker UMC bulk ammo. I suspect that the gun will run any ammo once the recoil spring loses a bit of poundage through regular shooting. Either way, the frequency of malfunctions is not acceptable.

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

I completely agree with you. That's why I like being transparent in my reviews to show what to expect with bulk ammo which most people shoot. You can tell with lower grade ammo it struggles more. But I don't think there should be much of a break in at all in a firearm. Thank you for watching!

[@davidjeep6543]

thank you sir

[@benraulston9111]

I ran the 1st 100 in mine and had 0 issues. Super impressed with the comp. I would be interested to see how that bucket of ammo runs after the 200 round break in.

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

I will be sure to let you know! I'm not too far off of 200 I went and shot two more mags with the same results but time will tell! Thanks for watching!

[@jvz1448]

I picked one up Saturday and tested it out today. Only ran about 60 rounds but no cleaning or oil. No malfunctions. 124/147gr. Was actually impressed although grip is not the most comfortable and trigger is mediocre at best. Just grabbed this so I could use it for summer carry sometimes

[@_EightySix]

Mine keeps doing that, I've put 250 rounds through it, cleaned and soaked it with lube, still FTF frequently. Thinking about trading it in for something else.

[@paulweiandt1085]

I had a similar issues with my CR 920 it turned out to be the junction of the feed ramp and chamber was not perfectly circular. They sent me a new barrel. I suggest taking a really good look at that.

[@pyrogaminghound9579]

3:20 hows the break in thing going, also would a lighter spring guide rod, help? heard stories about comps and ammunition type altering one another

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Yea that's exactly right. They become far more ammo picky. And mine is functioning well as long as I use a more quality ammo. I do have a follow up video on the channel as well and I may also do another in the future 👍

[@Bryan-1689]

I have two of them, Bronze and Black Barrel versions. I had 1 FTF in the first 450 rds of my Bronze but having a trigger issue and waiting for SS to send me the parts. My Black Barrel version I ran 452 rds through it and had zero issues. I ran 115, 124, 108, 147g ball and JHP, both feed everything I ran with the one exception. Great firearm, could be a break in issue getting through the first couple hundred rounds. I have had similiar issues with a couple of my other SS firearms to include my CR920 but once I got past the break in of 100-200 rds, I had no other issues.

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Glad to hear it! That's what I'm going to chalk it up to as well, at least until I get a few hundred more through it! Thanks for watching I appreciate it!👍

[@ozAl.2023]

I’m 1000 rds on my cr920p and I’m still having failures to feed on the first round of a fresh mag

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Hmm that's unfortunate hopefully the issue clears up for you!

[@Jay_812]

I took my 929p to the range yesterday and had the same exact experience. 150 rounds of 3 different kinds of 115gr and it was a constant failure to feed, failure to eject, and stove pipes. I know there is a break in but still disappointing as none of my other pistols have an issue with this ammo. Especially to this extent. I plan to run some 124 and 147 through it this weekend. If it continues to have issues I’m going to contact SS. Hoping wishing and praying it’s a break in period.

[@damiansutube]

Did the higher grain 9mm ammo seem to fix the issue or did it persist?

[@Jay_812]

@@damiansutube it has persisted

[@damiansutube]

@@Jay_812 that’s a shame. Thanks for the reply.

[@HackmasterFlex]

Having the same issues with my cr920p. Also using Remington. I have put the 200 rounds through it. One problem I had was when I tried running some Fiocchi 124 grain rounds and those were causing the magazine to come halfway out the bottom with each shot.

[@justinkazmark1203]

Just ran 225 rounds through my CR920P and counted 13 failures to feeds. I wish I had seen this video before purchasing it. A mix of 115/125 grain Federal.

[@Tyanmax99]

Sounds similar to my experience. I had 12 FTF in the first 20 rounds. It didn't start clearing up until I finished up the first box of 50

[@zackbenedict9142]

Great videos you are doing, im a fan of this channel, love to see a video on the CR920 and the CR920P.

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Thank you very much I appreciate that! I'll have a comparison coming up this week so stay tuned!

[@9unslin9er]

I went to the store, saw a brand new Glock 48. Bought it, for about $450. Bought 2 boxes of the cheapest ammo. Took it upstairs to the range. Shot it. No problems.

[@benniwon4385]

I’ve had the exact same experience so far with mine with both 115 and 124’s. Probably 4-5 mags through so far.

[@flaco74ag]

I had the same problem with mine with the first 25 of 115g, 175 rounds later, everything went fine.

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Glad to hear! I should have over 500 through after tomorrow so I'll be getting ready for an update video! Thanks for watching and stay tuned!

[@Jbg1217]

Just picked one up yesterday. Put about 100 rounds through it today with 2 failure to feeds and one stove pipe

[@DustyGold228]

200 round break in. Comp needs hot ammo. Only way to shoot under powered 115 would be dropping the recoil spring weight

[@KyleLindsay-e2v]

Any update after break in?

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

I did do a follow up final review you can find on the channel! Thanks for watching!

[@KyleLindsay-e2v]

Found it. Good to know it came around for you. Picked mine up yesterday and couldn’t get through a magazine. After 150 rounds it started chewing up ammo

[@snurd4788]

While Shadow Systems does say that their guns need break in period, I do believe your issue to be an ammunition problem. If you look at the ejection pattern of the Remington over the S&B, the Remington ammo is all over the place. The S&B is very consistent. I'm not a fan of Remington ammo based on my personal experience. Especially their .22 ammo. Even though the price is usually better on a fair amount of their calibers, I refuse to buy it because it just isn't that great.

[@gsb5w291]

I’ve noticed in the video that with the bulk ammo the spent cases were just barely coming out and with the S&B ammo were flying out. I don’t know what that means.

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

I would agree, I'm gonna mostly chalk up my issues to the ammo I was using

[@downlowdefense]

Shadow Systems have a 200 round break in period so firing 2 shots and then assuming the gun has an issue with ammo is premature.

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

It's a first shots review. Should I not show what it's doing?

[@downlowdefense]

@@gunpowderandprotein3444 I think you did a fantastic job and the only thing I would make sure to voice moving forward would be that malfunctions such as you had are to be expected and completely normal for these and many other firearms with tight build tolerances. That’s all I was saying and certainly hope you take it as constructive criticism please because I know it’s easy to critique but it takes a lot of work to put an informative video together so two thumbs up overall my friend. Best of luck moving forward.

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

@@downlowdefense that is a very good point, I do appreciate that and I'll be sure to mention that in my follow up video. Thanks for watching!👍

[@charles17508]

Wrapping that finger around trigger guard looks funny for shore.

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

It's a new trend I'm trying to start

[@believe722]

I had a lot of the same issues with my SS. CR920 Elite, War Poet version. And it also needed that break in. And a replacement recoil spring. Fortunately, now it runs fine. It is very disheartening though. When you get something new, that is expensive and have to baby it and coax it.

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

I have been fortunate with my other shadow systems but I agree it's somewhat disappointing but I'm sure it will get better. I personally never understood needing a long break in for a firearm seeing as they are test fired prior to shipping.

[@Me-ne5uu]

I love my Cr920 war poet. Not a single issue. I’ve been using 124 gr blazer brass and some 115

[@BanditApache-nd6lu]

Stop using 115 in comped pistols. They like it hotter. And there is a 200 round break in period.

[@victorortega2718]

Is this before or after break in period ? Do you still have it how it's holding up ? I'm really looking at the cr920p for my wife but if it's a pos. Please do tell.

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

These were my very first shots. So after using a higher quality ammo the issues when away. I have a follow up video you can see. It is a great flat shooter. I would personally recommend it.

[@tomlongbeard6071]

That Remington ammo is inconsistent. Hick45 just posted a vid on G19 gen 4 reliability. He had problems with Remington ammo in his Glock.

[@yungtang8257]

Did you oil the gun before test firing??

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Yep, I always do that with new firearms. It was mostly an ammo issue. I'll have a follow-up soon thanks for watching!!

[@Three60Crusader]

Those amount of failures was almost as bad as my GX4 xl but that’s a cheap pos anyways 😂. But yeah Shadow does state there is a 200 round break in period.

[@jackbauer9077]

I wonder if that ammo is a bad batch that is under powered?

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

I considered that as well. What puzzled me like I mentioned in the video is I have used that same bucket for other tests with no issues. But it my be inconsistent and maybe the compensator has something to do with dispersing the gas enough to not have enough energy to fully cycle.

[@TheCobradragon]

I’m not justifying the malfunctions but you’re are putting cheap bulk ammo through a gun that is compensated and has a factory recommended break in period. I bought my DR920P and had one issue with a factory Glock mag. I also ran Blazer and Speer Lawmn ammo through it.

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

I absolutely agree. I just like to see what ammo they can run. I'll of course run higher quality through now

[@joshuascism1702]

U need to be useing 124 grain it tells u in the manual

[@geckomabster1625]

cr920p vs rdp head to head please.

[@shalomg8871]

Its weird you could get so many FTFs when SS usually test fires every unit before shipment. Must have been an oversight on their end, which im assuming is rare. I would suggest sending this video to SS and explain your issue and they'll prob send you a new one for free Ps. Love your vids, very clear and unbaised opinions 👌

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

I would agree! I fully expect it to works itself out I'm sure it's some sort of a break in issue. I'll have a better idea once I get more rounds through it! And thank you very much I really appreciate hearing that!👍👍

[@2jzk]

Ran 600+ rounds through mine and no issues.

[@SHOOTERS_G.n.B]

I been watching the cr920 I know I’m gonna hate the grip…I have large hands and struggle with these small firearms functioning properly for me. Shadow break in sucks, and they are a tad overpriced…Good video buddy. Best of luck

[@thefacelessonena1918]

Shame folks try to make a gun look bad without following the manual

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Hey bud, these are literally my first shots so you can know what to expect. Want me to not show any failures? I have a final review on it, if this one hurts your feelings too much

[@Diyar_T]

I have seen 4 cr920s in person 1 was mine other 3 were friends and every single one had a problem. Ftf failure to extract massive bur in slides and believe it or not one we couldn’t get to lock back for more then 5 seconds before the slide would shoot back forward. Sold that garbage bought a 43x and not a single problem

[@TriggerTactics1]

It seems like bad ammo or SS can be a problem, so carry a glock and good ammo 👀 might as well pull both problems

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Haha I'll chalk it up to ammo! I do carry glocks once and a while as well but for the sake of reviews I have to test a variety of firearms

[@joeflowers9084]

In my first 5-6 mags, I couldn't get two rounds in a row to shoot. Then it started improving for the next 5-6 mags. After 150rds, it was running 100%, and I had no issues in my last 180rds. So I definitely think the gun AND the mags need break-in.

[@joeflowers9084]

The nose-up FTFs are the slide not going quite all the way back. This is definitely a bit of a break-in thing BUT it's for sure the ammo (the brass wasn't flying out near as far as the S&B). S&B is a bit hotter, but I'd still shoot decent 124gr for the first 500rds (S&B, Federal AE, etc.) before trying to fire any weaker bulk 115gr stuff. I broke mine in with a mix of 115 Fed AE and 124 Fed AE, and now it will shoot the weakest stuff I have (Magtech 115).

[@jaiquanstudios4165]

200 rounds to break the gun in

[@scottubz]

Mine is having the same issue

[@5280fame]

Why buy a corvette if you're going to be putting regular gas in it? Not going to function properly and cheap ammo ain't good ammo

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Damn it... Is that why my corvette runs like shit?

[@miketaylorID1]

it gonna run better dry. Less lube is more better. cheers

[@jackbauer9077]

I disagree, just like other things, lube is a good thing! No one enjoys dry, but too much lube is bad too, got to have just enough in all the right places.

[@miketaylorID1]

@@jackbauer9077 I’ll stick with Gaston’s advice - and my owners manual - “one drop only Vassily…” on the end of the trigger bar and one spread entirely along each slide cut. Most shooters grossly over lubricate striker fired pistols - its the 1911 hangover - its been my somewhat extended experience (tell y’all i’m old without saying so…) that many malfunctions originate with too much loob. like you say all good things in moderation.

[@jackbauer9077]

@@miketaylorID1 I agree with ya def don’t want to over do it on the Glocks, I put a little on the rails, one drop on the end of trigger bar, then some on the barrel.

[@BP-ex7kw]

Takes the time to produce videos and what not...doesn't take the time to READ THE MANUAL. Break it in first then come talk to us.

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Hey boss do you want me to show you what it does on literally my first shots? Or should I hide malfunctions so people expect it to be perfect out of the box with no issues? Go find a channel that's funded by the company so they can tell you everything is absolutely perfect right away👍

[@Tyanmax99]

@@gunpowderandprotein3444 Well said

[@peterreily1490]

You’re trying to feed a supermodel unclean chitlins You just don’t do that… use proper 124gr ammo. Clearly you lost the supermodel, don’t F up the CR920P too. Use proper ammo. AAC 124gr work wonderfully for like $260/case. 115gr? People still use those?

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Who's the supermodel?

[@charles17508]

Break in ushually you wanna run good ammo.

[@charles17508]

Fist few hundred rounds

[@Fritzy2379]

Cheap ammo = cheap results

[@Subbu1922]

Hello brother I am from India I am your big fan can you gift me this gun please

[@Me-ne5uu]

LOL 😂

[@Subbu1922]

@@Me-ne5uu please brother

[@Subbu1922]

@@Me-ne5uu hello brother what happened

[@920WASHBURN]

Does nobody read the instructions? Ha ha there's no problem just shoot the darn thing

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Buddy these are my first shots. I'm showing what the gun is doing. This is the point of doing these videos, to show what to possibly expect.

[@920WASHBURN]

@@gunpowderandprotein3444 that's why I said people should read instructions. They tell you their will probly be malfunctions. Now if there's jams after the break in period then blast them all over the place. I just don't think it does any good to make a video to show what happens, when they tell you exactly what's going to happen.

[@ChadHughes-e1l]

Stop doing reviews…… please!!!!

[@gunpowderandprotein3444]

Chad don't be salty. No one's forcing you to watch but I do appreciate it!

[@joshmajor8662]

THIS is why I don’t jump on the bandwagon immediately haha 😂 the best part is people saying it has a break-in, if they fire before shipping there shouldn’t be a break-in Lol especially for the price, it should run!! This is also why I trust ported or comped more 👍

[@Diyar_T]

SS has the worst quality control I’ve ever seen

[@alexmar1382]

This guy has little clue what's going on, keep saying the slide is not going all the way back... that should give you a clue that the recoil spring is still stiff, you also need an hotter round not cheap round and manufacturer also recommends at least 200 rounds for the brake in period. That said, when the gun is not in use, keep the slide on a slide lock for several days, this will help loosen up the recoil spring...don't try to compare a compensated gun to a non compensated.... get educated before you do or say stupid things.

[@Boatright]

Even after 250 rounds through mine, the recoil spring is still tough as hell.. gonna try that slide lock tip and see if that helps any.

[@B0N3ZNP3WZ]

@shadowsystemscorp

[@davidjeep6543]

i just went through the same shit ,so f en frustrating ,an lick my balls if it needs 200 rounds break in do it before i get the product ,dont take my money then tell me to fix your gun ,a few malfunctions ok but i put 100 rounds 3 rounds at a time yck that have some kid at the factory go through the pain ,