Macbeth (3 of 3)

University of Virginia professor Paul Cantor, curator of the Shakespeare and Politics website (thegreatthinkers.org/shakespea..., in the third of three lectures on Macbeth.

[@barbarag.5521]

Watching this in June 2022 - thank you Dr. Cantor, and everyone who made this series possible, for your very timely lectures on Macbeth.

[@biln2]

1:02:55 that's how brilliant a lecturer he is - there are no questions. everybody's thinking: "i'm going to ace this exam because i was hanging on to the very final word of his lecture."

[@OM33GAPRODUCTIONS]

This man... awesome power of insight. Well done Professor Cantor

[@thiagonunes4294]

Can't believe none of those dead souls had questions. Such an amazing professor. I wish I'd been there.

[@biln2]

2:38 you clappd on em, bro! thank you for the candor. we miss you, but you're still clapn. thank you. you're a master teacher for sure.

[@jamesduggan7200]

Professor earns thanks for posting these lectures.

[@thiagonunes4294]

God bless his soul. Just learned he died. Wish I could have talked to him.

[@clairerobsin]

everyone enjoying these lectures will be delighted with: 'the History of the Kings and Queens of England' ...delivered by Alan Ereira

[@allybally0021]

Wonderful commentary. Very thought provoking. I know this play very well.....but not to Mr Cantor's depth of analysis and insight.

[@pennsylvaniapinchington5698]

Wow, what an interesting idea at 19:28 about Macbeth desiring to be the God of Christianity

[@evdokiademetriades4975]

Fabulous 💎💎💎

[@Only1INDRAJIT]

Can anyone tell me What does he actually mean or refer to when he utters the word "fumas" or "thumas"?

[@SleepingDogVideo]

Thumos is an ancient Greek word meaning something like "spiritedness" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thumos

[@lawjef]

Not much to add to Sleeping Dog’s definition. However, not many people talk about spiritedness these days, so if it helps you can think of it as calculated risk taking or being bold and passionate about your cause

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

Interesting to note that the most prominent shout power in Skyrim is the "Thu'um".

[@timothymeehan181]

“That which in mean men we entitle patience is pale cold cowardice in noble breasts”, eh HOMBRE??? 🙈😱😎

[@SleepingDogVideo]

Regarding the summary of this lecture, I think Shakespeare is presenting humans (political animals) as needing to reserve some of the more socially-dangerous aspects of character until appropriate conditions. His character Sir Jack Falstaff says "discretion is the better part of valour". Although Falstaff is a coward and hypocrite, Shakespeare often puts words of wisdom in the mouths of his fools. So Henry V manages to act appropriately and differently in war, peace, bantering with tinkers and wooing princesses. Macbeth, Othello (too little reserve) and Hamlet (too much?) fail or struggle with these balances and judgements. Shakespeare presents us with so many unjust rulers who cannot even rule themselves.

[@lawjef]

Or is it all a commentary on logic versus emotion…. Political dogma versus facts… Kant versus Plato… etc etc

[@2929mar]

You are bright .Nevertheless, "a man": (un hombre) has nothing to do with "cojones".On the contrary, the word "hombre"is as ambigous as "man".In Spanish, it is both generic and specific of the male gender.A better translation for un unambiguous word in Spanish would be: "macho".

[@forbeswinthrop153]

On an ostensibly separate topic; though you never stated so explicitly, likely out of fear, I think in this course you explicated a thesis for why the West is being decimated by Islam, again.

[@jamesduggan7200]

Whilst I disagree, certainly that conflict is relevant to students studying politics.

[@katelewis536]

It’s also being decimated by the obsession with equality that is now reaching Maoist proportions

[@lawjef]

@@katelewis536 technically, the neo Marxist obsession is with equity not equality (i.e. outcomes, not opportunities). Your wider point is still valid. Mao could only dream of this type of (attempted) indoctrination.

[@lawjef]

If you got that out of a lecture on … (checks notes)… Macbeth. I mean, wow, you have such a vivid imagination. Don’t waste your talent watching Shakespeare lectures. I’m thinking you need to go bigger. Politics? Marketing? No, I’ve got it, social media!

[@katelewis536]

Social media is bigger than Shakespeare? Perhaps you need to go on a silent retreat…..

[@rogerevans9666]

@1:02:38 Crickets. Deafening silence. C'mon students!!! No one asks a question! Bumps on logs.

[@jamesduggan7200]

A competent TA could modernize Professor's Cantor's anachronistic performance, with multi-media presentations of actual actors delivering Shakespeare's lines. Also, there is no reason to use the Signet Classic series, if the TA projects on the screen the referenced text, while the students use the public domain editions available on their laptops.

[@lawjef]

james duggan he lays out various reasons for preferring the signet edition in the introductory lecture on Shakespeare and politics. You may want to address his various points on that topic rather than gesticulating about there being “no reason”

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

My young nephew visit me sometimes and they sit there with the TV on, a phone playing to one side, while playing a game on their tablets. They have an attention span of about 3 seconds, and so, their lives are a non stop cocophony of micro stimulations that they cannot escape from lest they become anxious and irritable. To sit and read a book in depth, to fully explore an idea in their minds, would be torture for them.

[@tjthibeau]

Strange to me that, after pooh-pooh-ing Stewart/Fleetwood’s 2010 production in part 1 (saying he hadn’t seen it but probably wouldn’t like it based on what little he’d heard), he spends significant time in the next two lectures ascribing to Shakespeare a “prescience” about totalitarianism that would come over 300 years later…

[@lawjef]

You do realize that, ummm, those two events are not binary right? You can not see a Shakespeare adaptation and still have views on whether the plays address totalitarianism. I mean, the subject title is Shakespeare and politics, sooooo…..

[@mukiwabanda2794]

So difficult to listen to... Uh Urrr urr uh uhhh urrr uhh urr uhhh urrr uh urr

[@lawjef]

Good to see you are focused on substance over form. If you cannot deal with someone who makes (annoying) noises when they are thinking, wait until you see what else life has in store for you!

[@goodlookinouthomie1757]

Were the professor still with us, perhaps we could ask him to edit his next video with jump-cuts and post production effects to hold your concentration.