When a University student meets a Tafe student

[@ShakTV]

University or Tafe?

[@joshkidvr]

Idk really

[@AdrianPortelli0fficial]

TAFE mate

[@dirtbikeexpression]

idk

[@ZingOnMate]

Tafe

[@BerskiTV]

neither

[@caveatemptor3400]

Then there’s the international student who pays three times the price for a degree for a job that doesn’t exist.

[@enamouredwiddit]

honestly biggest fraud scheme

[@caveatemptor3400]

@@martinkuliza I have no knowledge of this

[@yngthrnz8250]

yeh australia is more beneficial for non australians than it is its own people, so cooked@@martinkuliza

[@renanzinZS]

​@@yngthrnz8250that's not true. Life is way easier for an australian than for an international student

[@huydo1930]

@@martinkuliza dude what are you even talking about?

[@jarlnieminen4307]

The university guy will never know the pain of trying to do maintenance on his shit designs.😂

[@kc-nl8zc]

Best comment here well said

[@VenomRoadRacing]

Their design work is clearly revenge.

[@sasrebel]

You sir, win the internet 🤣

[@elibee2024]

Haha x)

[@mynameisben123]

In my experience the root cause of this is management, who don’t allow enough design iterations especially when the design nears completion. If they did, real world feedback could be factored into the design.

[@chowderpilot3843]

As an older university graduate I can attest this is 100% the brutal truth - a truth that is well hidden from university students, sadly. The University Industry's continual survival requires these sad corrupted institutions to keep selling the lie that having a degree is the best way to a successful life. This skit should be shown to every high school kid in the country I reckon.

[@BarryLetts379]

That information has helped me, but only realising that journalism wasn’t the best diploma to pick

[@mr-iz8cx]

Or, don't go to university if you're only after cash. You don't need an education to make good money. If you want a career that requires uni, then you go to uni to learn. That's if you're interested in doing something other than a trade. It's pretty simple really

[@dylankeppler3542]

sounds like you got a degree in a useless field, or didn't network well

[@martinkuliza]

as the sme, i agree iremember day 1 ok guys we're all gonna go around the class and i want everyone to tell us why you chose this course and what you hope to get out of it almost everyone in the class "so, my name is john and i'm doing this to get A GOOD JOB" not realizing that that is highly debateable and you may get it but then lose it 1 month later and then be left with the debt anyway

[@thegrandbizzare]

Lol. Someone drank the neo-liberal cool aid. Universities are trying to survive the funding cuts from successive Liberal governments, a lot of ministers whom got free uni education themselves. The "point" of a uni education is gaining advanced literacy, critical thinking and analysis skills, all of which make for a more informed community. But idiots think knowledge is only useful if it makes you money. TAFE is awesome too, but behind every practice is theory, and one is either conscious or ignorant of this.

[@ThMrksman]

I've been in both. The level of theory knowledge required at TAFE is laughable in comparison (and often the tests are written by people who themselves need some grammar lessons), but when it comes time to do practical assignments, you can tell how useful hands-on experience is by how insanely quickly and efficiently some of the lads there work. Then when you're out there working in industry it really opens your eyes to how poorly some engineers perform out in the real world, with designs that end up being more like obstacles which need to be overcome by the people actually building them, as opposed to the helpful guides they're supposed to be.

[@schr4nz]

100%, there's a huge gulf between applied knowledge and theory, University should put more attention towards being in real settings, and I don't necessarily mean borrowing principles from TAFE, I just mean going into workforce to see the difference between practical realities and the ivory tower, then bringing students back into the class setting to remind them that the best outcomes are going to be derived by having an iterative trial/error loop between the people in the field and desk jockey work, not through a top-down approach of "I did my bit, I haven't tested it or talked to anyone but that's not my problem"

[@Degenevesting]

I’m a qualified geologist, worked in the mines and now I’m training as a chippie with my old man. University is overrated unless you plan to drop 250k for a rental loan so you can sink piss all the time, and the only reason I actually got the geo job was my experience working in the film industry. As a chippie I make more, and the cap is not 200k like Geos, it’s limitless. Trades are the most underrated line of work. But now that I’m here, in high demand and there’s not enough of us, I reckon people should just keep going to uni. Go on mate, we’re making a killing! Don’t come and mess that up just get into debt :)

[@davidtaylor6124]

An electrician friend told me about some of the maths he had to do at TAFE and it sounded pretty scary. This must have been at least 30 years ago so I don't know if it's changed. It really doesn't seem that difficult to slouch through uni and get passes, plus there's so much pressure on the faculty to not fail anyone. I don't think much of use comes out of many uni courses, and having a degree only shows you managed to slog through it and not get bored or burned out. I don't underestimate that though - I burned myself out twice trying to get the best marks I could which when I finally finished didn't amount to a hill of dirt because I'm too old to bother with post grad stuff. Good people go through both, and what they both teach are vital to society as it is. But I do think too much emphasis is placed on going to uni and not enough on TAFE, and TAFE deserves more respect and funding.

[@ThMrksman]

@@davidtaylor6124 Electricians at TAFE do need to know a solid amount of applied algebra and you do want to have decent knowledge of trigonometry and a little calculus to properly make sense of the maths behind electromagnetism. The maths you'd encounter in engineering at university starts getting into shit like complex functions, linear algebra, partial derivatives, and even possibly Laplace transformations, which are all a total nightmare by comparison. The flip side of uni is the pass mark is only 50%, so instead of actually properly learning and understanding the harder stuff, a lot of students are able to scrape by simply by learning how to sit exams in general: rote memorising certain formulas which they'll forget by the end of the day, quickly working out which questions to not waste time on, and conversely which questions are free marks, etc.

[@Tmate4444]

You should have to actually work in the field first, and then if you desire, move on to designing better systems etc. In fact we could do away with a majority of university courses if we did it like that, you could even train people on the job. Oh wait yeah that's exactly how it used to be...

[@ironized]

Not a single engineering student has ever been that articulate.

[@izabelaR]

I used to think uni students would be smart, but the engineering student I remember was a pot head. 😂 There's definitely people at uni who aren't that smart in many ways, they only specialise in one area but don't know much about anything else unrelated to their topic.

[@tomsmith6513]

A lot of uni students talk like the TAFE student in the video lol. It's like Gaius Baltar trying to get rid of his accent.

[@Bangy]

Are you doing engineering at Griffith or something?

[@snailgirl1484]

@@Bangy LMFAO

[@Bangy]

@@M-qw9ru There’s a difference between chinglish and boaglish

[@Planet_H037]

I've been a tradesman for 36 years. Self employed for 34 years. NEVER been out of work, fantastic lifestyle and choose my customers. Life's bliss 😊

[@mattwood1977]

I droppped out of a civil engineering degree after 2 years to start a carpentry apprenticeship which im almost finished and am loving. I find it kind of sad and annoying that theres this stigma that if you dont go to uni then you're stupid. I feel like there are a lot of people missing out on doing a job they actually like because they feel some kind of responsibility to go to uni if they can.

[@sxnxqa2335]

i wish i went tafe instead of uni tbh, doing practical stuff is more fun

[@Louis-kp7pz]

Mate so true

[@avivabillington5514]

👍😊💯 so well said!! My the "HECS debt" from what I've heard,it takes years after you've done your university degrees. No wonder people can't afford to stay there as these new cost increases too? I know so many smarter people who never went to uni 😊 People have said I should have gone or sound as if I have been to university 😂 I don't know whether to take that as a compliment or not...

[@patrickgrimaldi5790]

@@sxnxqa2335short term pain for a long term gain. Life’s not all about having fun. You’ll learn that

[@TheIsioisi]

It's not a stigma, it's a coping mechanism. Relatively intelligent people, when presented with the truth that they were manipulated into spending tens of thousands of dollars in money they didn't have, for a degree that means nothing, will double down and declare that it was still the best option, rather than admit they were hoodwinked

[@nbazaid]

Shak being the best as usual. He just brightens up your day ❤ 😃

[@CrazyPigeon094]

W mans

[@ShakTV]

♥

[@CrazyPigeon094]

Shak, this is my cousin by the way, we all love your videos 🔥

[@every1665]

In my case, I left school at 15 for an apprenticeship in the now defunct trade of instrument making. Through a series of progressively better jobs, I now find myself designing and building prototype medical instruments where I have uni qualified engineers assisting me. I far prefer my job to theirs. They look after the boring parts like compliance with regulations, writing reports, checking compatibility with other software etc. I get to work directly with the scientists and medical staff who test and make suggestions for improvements, then I build the next version. Real jobs are often quite different from the standardized generic descriptions as understood by recruitment officers.

[@helenbarrett6451]

Sounds awesome.

[@ABeardedDad]

To be fair, those science and medical professionals you with alongside almost all have degrees.

[@every1665]

@@ABeardedDad For sure tertiary qualifications are worthwhile, but not for everyone. And modern unis are now just businesses selling degrees to as many customers as they can pull.

[@helenbarrett6451]

@@every1665 communist factory's.

[@aeromech8563]

As an aircraft engineer of 30 years I have to say that's one of the funniest sketches you have done bra' hahaha just awesome 👌

[@johnforster5312]

Same! 14 years in aircraft maintenance this year. Tens of thousands of dollars in tools but at least ive got zero HECS debt 😂

[@MrWackozacko]

The aircraft as a whole?

[@johno9507]

Geez I've only been a aircraft engineer for 28 years, Qantas class 1995.🇦🇺

[@johno9507]

​@MrWackozacko Everything from toilets to tyres.

[@MrWackozacko]

So you personally understand aerodynamics, rocket science, electrical circuitry, plumbing, hvac etc, i dont think so. Might you have specialists underneath you? @@johno9507

[@ProgrammedForDamage]

Sometimes it's easy to forget it's the same person on both sides. Masterfully done. Shak mixing it up with all walks of life.

[@geoffmartins2606]

As someone who studied at both Uni and TAFE, these are both pretty accurate characterisations.

[@gureno19]

I love University students.... They are some of my best employees 😂. From someone who dropped out of TAFE.

[@johnellison3030]

I've been to both TAFE and University, and have numerous TAFE certificates under my belt. Six to be exact. And I have also been a TAFE Teacher, so I'm pretty biased in my response here. But also very confident in my response. The characters depicted in this sketch are pretty accurate, however you see both types in both institutions simultaneously. And this is very dependant on campus location. The further away from the city centres you see the TAFE type students depicted here in both institutions. And the closer in to the city centres you see the University type of students. I've encountered many University students whom believe they are a cut above TAFE students because of the status University holds in society compared to that of TAFE. Who really didn't have the foundational skillsets to compete with TAFE students. Which TAFE provides in the prerequisite courses for advanced courses of study. This was while studying, while Teaching, and in different places of employment. The sad truth about this video, is that industry now looks at TAFE students as the less educated of the genres. when in actual fact, they are about on par. And in many instances, TAFE is actually on top. Regardless of course content.

[@ht8286]

Well said...people need to realise any kind of experience is what employers want and hire you on. Doing a basic Tafe certificate will get you in the door in a short space of time ..with a minimal cost and you will not be wasting time.

[@gandalf2256]

You write much more like a Tafe student than a University graduate. Congratulations on exposing this.

[@ht8286]

@@gandalf2256 Me? I have two University degrees and three Tafe qualifications.. Enjoy your 70k a year dream job requiring perfect grammar whilst everyone else scoots ahead..

[@gooble69]

@@gandalf2256 Congratulations on proving his point while being completely oblivious to the hole you just put yourself in. Wherever you got your education, I'd be asking for my money back...

[@gooble69]

I actually did and Mechanical Engineering Certificate that led to an Engineering degree. I much preferred TAFE because our teacher was a former Mechanical Engineer who gave real world examples and stories from his career which made everything more real. The other part was that as part of the cert we had to learn to do metalwork and weld etc so it's wasn't just theory. the equations were field tested by us. Once we got to Uni it was just full of life long students who had become lecturers and professors who only knew the book and never had a real job. If I had my time again I wouldn't have bothered with the Uni part.

[@Zap011]

This man is the literal goat at skits!

[@nansatdefqon.1807]

I remember having to drive down to UOW after my day at Granville Tafe to help my sister move a mattress, cabinet and bed frame out of her dorm. The looks I got from the students there when I rocked up in my high vis, slides and Edgewater Homes hat (covered all in dried up mud, you know, bricklaying) were as if I had horns growing out my head. You definitely get looked down on by Uni students but as Shak pointed out, they’re spending another 4-8 years of education to struggle to get work plus being hexed up to the eyeballs in debt while we only do 4 years and afterwards we’ll be making more cash than they ever will. Love the vids brah, keep ‘em coming! ❤️🫡

[@coconutplantfish4463]

bro i just went to granville campus last friday das crazy coincedence

[@BigToezCA]

Good old Granville TAFE 😂😂😂 I’m a qualified brickie from there

[@Willy2Plays]

Bruh you’re a brick layer you ain’t gonna be making more money than the majority of people studying after they finish uni

[@JohnSmith-rr3jt]

Really only applies to academi degrees (aka useless ones)

[@TopherWardy]

​@Willy2Plays Ha....yes he will!

[@theodoreardel8927]

This is hilarious. Ive done both and watching this is like watching the two halves of my brain trying to hold a convo 😂

[@petergracemeguide1280]

As one who has both University and trade and Tafe qualifications this is huge. I worked like a dog for both at the same time. I learnt more at Tafe than uni and the apprenticeship payed for the uni. Today having been an employer, manafacture , business owner and import exporter of Australian products I would employ the Tafe student. Today at age 51 I'm semi retired and for years pick n choose what my grounded trade options I take on. Kids get a trade .

[@rainbowtrout75]

Uni kills brain cells- thats the overall problem with society

[@OMGLittleB]

What? no way would an electrician at Tafe learn more than a electrical engineer??? The maths for example. Well i can easily see it if you were talking about a non-STEM degree, that looks like the most braindead sh*t i've seen.

[@Jimbo_coight]

Meanwhile a 22 year old is earning 240k a year as a truck driver delivering fuel with $0 debt with a year 10 certificate.

[@doit7470]

On which planet can you make that much money trucking. 😂 if you're hiring let me know

[@williamstanding4754]

Meanwhile you don't go to Tafe to be a truck driver and yeah maybe 100k a year working 80hrs a week.

[@Jimbo_coight]

Go get your B-double and bulk DG license and start applying for the top transport companies @@doit7470

[@Jimbo_coight]

@@williamstanding4754 yeah about those hours but double the pay you mentioned

[@Looking-great]

240k. Pft. Hahhahahhaha maybe fifo

[@ivon1688]

46, went to TAFE after high school, pretty much been working since, debt free & financially independent. Friend got a Doctorate in English Literature and still lives with his parents.

[@TheSmoothViewASMR]

Who tf gets a masters in "English Literature" 😂 like what's the use?

[@sspah6870]

@@TheSmoothViewASMR I don't know, maybe journalism, could become a critique of some sort, author, there are some possiblities I suppose. Could help for teaching.

[@NeriWitt]

So, the TAFE guy FIXES the mistakes the Uni guy designed 😂

[@damongirl66]

Seems like a sound symbiotic arrangement.

[@sir.benzerlot4571]

Nah repairs

[@OMGLittleB]

The majority of my uni classmates are all dumb as rocks and im honestly surprised they are surviving an engineering degree. No surprise about the horrible designs, but most cases the designs might still look tedious despite who made it, you gotta keep in mind that engineers tend to see the design and design only.

[@user-iy4vg7kt6k]

basically, but without the uni guy there would never be mistakes to fix

[@jutisa9912]

Nice stuff Bro, quality work as always! You see, what I’m doing is spending a couple years at tafe to get my cert 3, 4, and diploma whilst getting hands on experience, then use up all those credits to not only got to university, but also for a shorter period of time, and I’ll have a job in my field beforehand. I just think this will help make the most out of my time whilst paying less money :)

[@geralinegreer9484]

Well done that's what I wish I had done looking back! All the best 😊

[@mechanic7430]

Ive been a qualified lv mechanic for 20 yrs and i still laugh at some of the people that went through uni for qualifications that dont have availability in the current market. I also plan on doing some night classes in the future to get the qualifications necessary to become a Tafe lecturer in my field. There's pros and cons either way after high school but if you pick either of these 2 choices, you'll be way in front of anyone who just takes a retail job. Good luck to all when leaving school and put the effort in now . Trust me ,its well worth it. Cheers shak!

[@countesspuritania]

So I did my plumbing apprenticeship at TAFE back in 2013 and now I’m in my third year of accounting at uni. I prefer neither of them.

[@iamthinking2252_]

The neutral take that really just doesn’t fly in the comments of this video

[@c.d.c9425]

Based. Work is work at the end of the day

[@MuhammadKhan-xy7nn]

When a University student meets a Tafe student, it's like a high-end sports car meeting a reliable old van - they may have different engines, but they both know how to get from point A to point B with style!

[@ZahdShah]

More like a prius meets a reliable van. The sports car belongs to the entrepreneurs

[@thejukeytp7131]

technically the uni student should be the van since their broke students and the tafe students are modified 4x4s

[@STXNCIC]

​@@ZahdShah Yes, it's impossible for a university student to afford a $300k+ sports car before the age of 25, no matter which field they choose. Owning a sports car over the age of 25 is unimpressive by today's standards.

[@johnlocke4715]

A high end sports car meets a reliable old van? You can’t be serious..

[@ultimobile]

@@johnlocke4715 high end sports car like my friend's Ferrari that's been in the repair shop for many months because they can't get the parts - looks good, great potential, pity it's not working right now, and pity about the Money !

[@jasperwhite7165]

As a diesel fitter who went back and did mech eng I find this hilarious, but also reminded of the needless pretentiousness of uni students😂

[@vanessaland5090]

haha are uni students pretentious? Mine were so chill.

[@avivabillington5514]

😊💯👍 University students may pay more than TAFE students,but if they finish their course they can still get into a career too

[@ultimobile]

@@avivabillington5514last I looked tradies were easily earning $200Kpa while many uni students surviving on part-time jobs were almost homeless and unable to pay the rent.

[@Triple_A_679]

"I fix the car, and you write essays about it" That statement is 100% accurate, and then the Uni student is going to spend the next 10+ years paying off student debt😂😂😂.

[@OMGLittleB]

for a non stem major sure, mechanical and electrical... really any engineering degree would get that debt out of the way pretty fast and secure a 70-120k salary job as a graduate (mainly mechanical and electrical). Take a look at most CEOs', they all have bachelors or masters in the field they are in.

[@Triple_A_679]

​@@OMGLittleB Unfortunately, the dream of becoming a CEO is overshadowed by the harsh reality for many who have realized that accumulating debt for a seemingly promising degree leads to a futile outcome. Many individuals, including myself as an Electrical Engineer, have been compelled to transition into roles like Computer Science to secure higher salaries for faster debt repayment. It's essential to confront this truth and reassess the statistics, acknowledging the widespread challenges faced by those navigating the complexities of higher education and its financial implications. However, it's important to recognize that this path may not be suitable for everyone, and alternative routes to financial stability should be explored and supported.

[@Triple_A_679]

@@OMGLittleB that's funny, most CEO's nowadays of big Telco company or Airlines do not even have a qualifications from the related field, they more like came from business environment, Warehouse Team Leaders and Managers are getting that same salaries you've mentioned which is dwarf in amount that a licensed sparky make🤣🤣, I was an EE major who switched to Computer Science on the 2nd year, the salary isn't worth wrecking your brains for 4 years or getting into ridiculous amount of debt for.

[@OMGLittleB]

@@Triple_A_679 Ridiculous debt that takes 3 years to pay off isn't ridicules. An electrician 1st year fully qualified will make less than an EE if domestic compared to 1st year graduate, industry is around 100-100k, the only way a 1-2 year fully qualified electrician is making 150-200k would depends on the site, industry, night shift, long hours, OT and site allowance. Now compare a self employed EE to a self employed electrician. I would like to see an Electrician open a chip fab.

[@Triple_A_679]

@@OMGLittleB I'm not sure what world you live in, Graduate EE are not earning that much 🤣🤣🤣, stop the 🧢🧢.

[@DrSuperpump]

lmao basically virgin soy uni student vs high test tafe chad 😎

[@bossdog1480]

You're completely spot on with this Shak. (Even though you're an educated man yourself.) I'm an old tradie. I started with one trade, getting paid to learn from the first day, and now I have 4 of them under my belt. I can do a lot of other things as well. That gives me versatility when the economy goes wonky. If you were to go to Uni, a STEM course would be the way to go. Underwater basket weaving degrees don't tend to have any jobs waiting for you when you graduate with a huge loan to pay back. I've ALWAYS had a job anywhere I've been in Australia and have owned 2 houses outright without a mortgage. I would definitely recommend trades for men, and girls if they WANT to do the work.

[@valentine0221]

Hey mate what all trades have you worked/working in? Cheers

[@bossdog1480]

Painter, Tiling, Gyprock and Carpentry. More work than I can handle.@@valentine0221

[@Tmate4444]

I wouldn't say STEM is necessarily the way to go. Specific courses are good, but many are oversaturated. Doctor and veterinary medicine and IT fields are very well paying and easy to get a job. Other than that I can't think of much else that it's worth paying for uni for.

[@OMGLittleB]

I agree, if you wanna make big bucks seems like the business side of things is the only way. The only difference between a uni student and a tafe student is the potentially in the business they run. It'll be pretty hard for a tafe student to end up running a semiconductor fab lol. In my opinion if you were to go into uni expecting to make big bucks and then sit a single job for 20+ years doing nothing... why bother going to uni?

[@bossdog1480]

@@valentine0221 Painting, Tiling, Carpentry and Gyprock. (Drywall).

[@stevegraham3817]

University Degrees were highly valued and valuable when Oz had Manufacturing and Scientific Research Industries. And before you start feeling too smug at the Tradesperson level. This is also a fading field. If nothing is manufactured here, you can guarantee that it will be designed and manufactured as a modular unit overseas to be assembled by Unskilled Labour once it arrives here. If you are Unskilled or Semi Skilled Labour you won't have the written Qualifications to be able to argue that your Semi Skills are Valuable and deserve a Living Wage. If you don't believe me, check out how Trickle Down Economics works in the 3rd World.

[@AbAdA123]

4:36 As someone who went to both TAFE guy is spitting facts 😂👌

[@mrwolf750]

Wait until you want to buy a house...Then the crying really starts.

[@Extra_Mental]

Wouldnt believe how true this is, im an industrial sparky and its pretty often that i have to tell the engineer im working for that stuff needs to change to work at all or work better, dunno what the heck they teach em at Uni but is sure isnt experience

[@syrus1233]

Yeah im a battery technican and work with industrial sparkys, thinking of doing and electrical engineering degree becauser i have hands on experince on the tools. Lots of these engineers don't know what possible in reality they only know throey. How is being a sparky im thinking its gonna destory my body by the time im 40

[@Ryzi03]

Fuck, I feel like this is my own inner monologue tbh. Fell into the trap of going to uni just because I did well in high school. At the end of my second year now and I feel like I've learnt jack shit, and all just to end up at some shithouse office job at a desk 24/7. I'm really considering picking up a TAFE course or an apprenticeship of something and actually getting some hands on skills where I can actually be up and about doing real work. The whole uni environment just feels so pretentious. Too much for my Povo Western Melbourne brain

[@izabelaR]

Maybe do a pros & cons list for either thing. Hope you figure it out.

[@davidtaylor6124]

I'm guessing you're young. You're halfway though so why not stick it out and then go to TAFE? Best of both worlds.

[@Tmate4444]

Do it bro fr. Don't get in any more debt especially if you're already dreading what comes next. Physical labour is underrated AF. I went to uni, got in to a shitload of debt that just keeps increasing because of the insane inflation (everything I paid off just got added back on last year due to inflation and it's back where it started). I just started manual labour type work and make more money than I did in the previous work using my degree, and I'm more satisfied, getting to be outside frequently, and not tied down in a room all day, and getting physical exercise.

[@komphatak3395]

You can always do both, uni and then tafe...maybe avoid doing masters 😊

[@spathi3309]

As a uni grad from 15 years ago, I can confirm the student loan is a bit rough. However, I paid mine off after a couple of years work. The reward for picking a higher paid career certainly pays off.

[@jackl4739]

Student loan is finished , the next loan is continuing that is property,..

[@ephemera...]

That was 15 years ago.

[@spathi3309]

You know, after I watched this, I went and asked some of the new uni grads where I work about their studfent loans. Not something you ask every day. Their loans are three times more than what I paid 15 years ago. Thats just crazy.@@ephemera...

[@OMGLittleB]

@@ephemera... it's still the same, an engineering degree could be payed off after a few years of work, i can't speak on other fields.

[@samster978]

hahhaha so good, i remember one time when I told someone I was studying at tafe they turned away from me and instantly started talking to someone else

[@timmehh89]

I’d count that as a blessing

[@Okayletsg0]

Ive done both tafe and uni, prefer the tafe people but I am grateful for the education I’ve received at uni and they have much better access to facilities. I consider myself very privileged to have the chance to go to uni at all since I dropped out in year 7 due to medical reasons.

[@ht8286]

Who cares about quality of facilities!!

[@Okayletsg0]

@@ht8286 im an art wanker so it matters for me to have access to big ovens for the clay and shit like that, but you’re right the people matter more than anything else :)

[@tg6080]

To be fair, most apprentices will be in debt $60k anyway once they buy a brand new ranger on their $20 an hour wage xD

[@liltworker]

Next Vid Idea: Swimming At School:

[@sonny4166]

The punching a cone in the morning is too accurate

[@christophernicholascarter6865]

As a Uni student that previously did TAFE, this is 100% accurate. I’ve heard a bunch of people refer to their diplomas as degrees and when you tell them it’s different they’re adamant it’s the same thing. It isn’t. It’s not even close

[@aaronfitzgerald9109]

I'm an electrician, yet one of my mates is an electrical engineer, yet can't explain to my apprentice the fundamentals of AC theory... yet often he gets it wrong when he does explain it, yet he now works for a firm on $48 per hour as an EE, I get $90 as a shift sparky and have no debt.... go figure

[@gooblewoobles3686]

@@aaronfitzgerald9109 yet yet yet yet yet

[@mmredfs361]

@@aaronfitzgerald9109 also an electrician, you just have to humour the engineers. they are just there to sign off ITRs and write up test sheets mostly. 3 indian engineers crowded around a megger trying to figure out how to work it then asking us to show them was fucking hilarious

[@bushpigtrent]

If they did their 'degrees' back home, then I don't think they are actually engineers. Probably technologists or technicians at best.

[@davidbwn]

As a former TAFE student with Associate Diploma 100% accurate.

[@DaRealFishy]

I mean the tafe student kinda right 4 years of study to get a piece of paper 😂

[@barbecue4555]

he's always the L.E.G.E.N.D at skit's

[@noobmaster2186]

so relatable, keep up the funny content

[@craiggas]

This argument always makes laugh, it’s not all about the end result. If you are genuinely fascinated by what it is you’re studying, especially the science, physics behind it the experience is extremely rewarding. Your career is whatever you make it but those 4 years of pushing myself to the limit academically, genuinely loving what I was learning every day was irreplaceable.

[@noahsibahi-jackson8757]

Absolutely, people need to understand that money while important is not the overarching objective of a fulfilling life. It is simply a tool to furthering a fulfilling life towards an endeavour you are truly passionate in. People have fallen out of balance and have lost sight of what really matters

[@SimpPro101]

Found the uni student

[@jamesarobertson4299]

Dork

[@burnt2951]

alright mate keep ya cock down its just a skit

[@mmredfs361]

it's about the employment no one gives a fk about 'what you learn'. this is sounds like some cope. I can learn anything a uni will teach quicker, cheaper and easier on the internet. the only reason you pay all that money is for the piece of paper in the hope of gaining employment in a specific field.

[@willburke5384]

meanwhile the uni student is unemployed and the tafe student is on $1600 a week

[@Yabani_Eshek]

Ill never understand why people look down on Tafe, You're pretty much getting the same certificate/degree, working while you study + get paid ontop of that while learning, and you're not in crippling debt by like 30k.

[@allyallyoctenfree]

As a mature aged apprentice currently attending Tafe... after dropping out in year 10, trying tertiary to finish... this had me absolutely DEAD 😂😂😂💀❤️

[@KrAUSerMike]

When I was in highschool back in 2005. I wish they promoted or at least mentioned TAFE or trades... All the teachers just pushed Uni. It was always "Go to uni, get a degree and be successful! If you don't go to uni you'll struggle in life." I didn't go to uni and didn't do a trade (wish I did) and went straight to work. I'm not struggling, but would really have loved to have a life skill under my belt.

[@nabilion]

This comment^

[@moisty254]

Man you could do such a refined, nuanced version of this skit that would ultimately destroy the majority of uni students.

[@pawprintexe]

Bogans Unite

[@Lor4Free]

Always ger so hyped for the weekly uploads, keep it up Shak, solids vids mate 👌

[@sidestep183]

This should be titled: 'Person meets a ute driver in a VB hat.'

[@mrguy7582]

been a tradie and also doing my masters... lets just say you're bang on the money with this bro lmao

[@shaunmurray8132]

All uni students learn the lesson...Their smugness comes back to bite them as they struggle to find a job, wile the mechanic is on a six figure sum by his early twenties!

[@slixed]

J dog, raw dog 😂😂😂

[@DedMan516]

Going to university was the worst financial decision of my life lol

[@OmgAuntySuzanne16]

Right ok! A tradesman begins work, earns money and learns about others at about 16 years old and a Uni student begins work at about 26 and is behind by 10 years and is in debt! And the tafe student had cash in his hands. I was a beauty therapist at 20 bought a house then went to Uni later! It’s a good life

[@WidowXGaming]

"This dudes a gangster? His real names Clarence"

[@benjthewhite]

I relate so hard to the crying at the end over debt 😭😂

[@joshuadoland5479]

As a uni student. This is way too accurate

[@maxrockatanksyOG]

Dropped out in Yr 10 (1996), spent 15+ years drilling water bores/ exploration/ coal seam gas, made 210k for 5 months work a year; went to Uni, became an RN, have 20k in HECS & barely make 90k a year.

[@nomad5195]

Mechanical Engineer: draws shit Mechanic: fixes shit

[@RuinzWs]

I watching this at 3 am and it’s a school night I gotta wake up at 5 I’m in Florida your videos are keeping me awake lol keep it up man

[@1bby_09]

shak never disappoints

[@Waywind420]

There's an Advanced Diploma of Electrical Engineering that is FREE at TAFE that takes 2 years to complete. 2 year diploma + zero debt + 2 years work experience + 200k gross earnings *vs* 4 year engineering degree + $60,000 debt + 0 work experience + 0 gross earnings An *Advanced Diploma is AQF Level 6* whereas a *Bachelor Degree is AQF Level 7* so quite often they are interchangeable for job roles. Given the changing job market and AI era we're in, I think the Diploma's make sense.

[@fablearchitect7645]

Engineering Bachelor Degrees are 3 years not 4. 4 year engineering degrees are a Bachelor Honours Degree which is AQF level 8

[@Waywind420]

​@@fablearchitect7645 How much debt are you in bro

[@OMGLittleB]

But an engineering degree will allow you to work in any field and any place, get a degree in either physics, EE, mechanical or chemical and you have infinite job opportunities no matter where you are.

[@DaoSeeker]

As someone who's been to both TAFE and Uni, for IT related degree/diploma, I found I learned far more at TAFE than Uni. It's hands on at TAFE so we were always in front of a computer, instead of listening to a lecturer drone on about theory.

[@eitopoopoo429]

Thanks for making me happy when im sick helps a lot!

[@fablearchitect7645]

All the tradies come back to study engineering at uni in there thirties as mature age students because their bodies can't take it anymore

[@Me-xoxoz]

Amen amen .That is one of the cons of trade ,your body will get tired at some point of getting under cars/truck, crawling in confined spaces etc.

[@publiclanddeerhunter]

35year old here doing a mature age Arborist apprenticeship,you never hear of people my age going back to Uni after obtaining a trade. If anything they start their own business in their chosen trade,having people work for them doing the physical labour whilst working 3 days a week & own 3+ investment properties.

[@wheres_bears1378]

The tradies I know just expand and move into project management in their own businesses

[@ultimobile]

sounds about royit, ay ! I spent 7 years at uni, and 17 years as a TAFE teacher - and used to say uni teaches theory, TAFE teaches practical skills. And I saw people who already had uni degrees come to TAFE to learn how to actually do stuff ... One of my TAFE students stopped coming to my classes - just disappeared - until 6 months later he came in to see me - he was wearing a company technician uniform and was holding a rubber-clad iPad - on his way back from fixing the computers at a Mcdonald's. He told me he wasn't a good student and didn't really pay attention in class - but when he started work, his supervisor was nasty and got the sack two weeks later, and my guy just talked about the stuff he heard me saying in class, and got the promotion straight away - he came back because he wanted to thank me for that ;-)

[@johno9507]

Did an aircraft engineering apprenticeship with Qantas and studied at Tafe, we had some pretty smart blokes and no yobbos in our year...although the aircraft sheet metal guys would disappear when the surf was up.

[@David01.d]

I had a cert iv at the time and someone came up to receive food crisis donations and she told me she had a masters from Melbourne uni and cant find work. That made the choice for me to quit uni early on.

[@jacobcurtis7566]

Bro engineers be on six figures five years into their career. That student loan doesn't stand a chance

[@thecountysfinest]

Of my group of mates from high school 3 of them went to University. Thought it made them something special aswell. These days i out earn all 3 of them put together 😂 shout out to tafe aye 😂

[@thecountysfinest]

@@Your_neighbour33 ones an accountant some kinda specialised one but I can't remember, one's an investment banker other's a marine biologist (his jobs actually pretty cool). I own a scaffolding company.

[@thecountysfinest]

@@Your_neighbour33 100 percent start a tafe course just a bonus when you ask but go for the apprenticeship Asap and once that's done start a business once again Asap. Stay on that path you'll end up the guy that hire's my company (they make stupid money)

[@syrus1233]

if its ur passion yes but carpenter pay is averaerge@@Your_neighbour33

[@croboyjr]

Love you Shak!!! I'm sharing this video to everyone! You inspire me!

[@newsflash4382]

This mindset is killing Australian innovations. Scientists, engineers, Doctors, they are the building blocks of modern hi tech society.

[@user-ce9xe1qe8i]

It's one of the worst parts of our society

[@KC-dw6yz]

What do you expect? You can't blame people for wanting a good life and stable employment. The Australian government chops and changes research direction every three years or whenever the next election is, science is underfunded for a developed country, and if you're a scientist here you don't know what or where your next gig is.

[@bushpigtrent]

Agreed, lazy easy life mindset will come back and bite!

[@team4.t]

Man when shacks videos come out every Monday it makes everything better

[@nightroamerwiththechickens7255]

With anything music/ art related it is far better to go to a uni then not to because when you’re getting cast for anything, no one gives a flying fuck about experience. As long as it’s not the first role you have ever done you are chill. The directors see that you have gone to the Conservatorium and it skyrockets you to the top of the wait list.

[@ineedmoneyimpoor558]

you're so good at skits i love your stuff mate 💪

[@Sylmarys24]

I dropped out of Uni after my first year because I just hated the way these institutions have become businesses and voting booths. There is no guarantee of work with any kind of degree and tradeswork pays far more, according to my experience and they'll never have a cent of debt to their name. I'm glad I changed course...so glad.

[@MachineThatCreates]

Ironically the mecheng will probably end up being a mechanic anyway..in the mining sector usually. If Jaydog can actually complete his tenure hell slide straight into a job. Changing tyres first then building up from there.

[@JJO117]

The bloke from Tafe will end up wealthier than the Uni student.

[@marks2997]

By some margin.

[@jatt-jatt-jatt3181]

tradies make shit ton of money with good advertising@@marks2997

[@OMGLittleB]

depends, if the tafe student goes self emplyed sure, but if a uni student goes self employed, the tafe self employed would never make as much. People that have degrees seem to think that they don't need to run a business because they have a degree and they'll just find a 300k job a few years down the line.

[@BerskiTV]

CRAZY CONTENT MAN! , Been watching you for over 2 years now, keep up the quality content

[@ShakTV]

ohhhhhh crazzzyyyy mannn aprreciate it lad

[@BerskiTV]

​@@ShakTV ​Noooee Probemm ayee mann! CRazyyy aye mannnn i'm doing speed rn man crazyyyy

[@deejayw3716]

That was gold 😂

[@Cyberbrickmaster1986]

I like how it started off as a knock on TAFE, only to eventually hit hard on University. As someone who went to TAFE, I got a degree after a few years and still don't know nearly enough of what I studied for!

[@fatmajoy87]

5:26 was hilarious the way he said 75000 fu-

[@mr-iz8cx]

I left after year 10. Went to uni later and then did a masters OS. Amazing experience and cheap. Done shitloads of labouring/work in different industries and am now going back to uni to learn something else I'm interested in. F*ck spending my days working a job I hate just for money. The debt gets paid, I live anywhere in the world I want and I do something I actually want to do. Having a trade is great, if you actually want it. People always try to justify eating shit though, like it's something to be proud of. Way more to life than sinking piss and working, that's just wanking ✌️

[@jordanwilson706]

Just an aside, the amount of mechanics I have met who think they are smarter than engineers...

[@bushpigtrent]

Most of the comments seem the same, no idea about what they don't know, just that they think they have intuitively more knowledge about a subject that one studies for 4 years at uni. It's gold how daft they are. Not to mention, if everyone only goes to tafe, who is going to design these things they think they can design with no knowledge other than their self-proclaimed enlightenment on the subject.

[@jordanwilson706]

@@bushpigtrent Well said, I think those kind of people operate on insecurity, identity issues and jealousy. I guarantee you every single one of them would over estimate their IQ.

[@bushpigtrent]

@jordanwilson706 exactly right, dunning kruger effect 🤣

[@jordanwilson706]

@@bushpigtrent 😆

[@CamelNectar]

All smooth n round till the ol debto talk finished the conversation.

[@blueblackyellow]

Punch a cone lmaooooo

[@MargotHypnos]

I know this is comedy, but it is so true! I have a Masters Degree, huge debt and no job because I need experience to get a job. You're way better off going to TAFE.

[@matthewlloyd3255]

From the university side of things: The sketch may be accurate but what it doesn't tell you is - if you do a generalist degree such as Science and you are actually interested in the material you're covering in your years of study, then it's definitely worth the expense and effort.It's not always about the end result.

[@mmredfs361]

you mean its worth just to learn? it's about the employment no one gives a fk about 'what you learn'. this is sounds like some cope. I can learn anything a uni will teach quicker, cheaper and easier on the internet. the only reason you pay all that money is for the piece of paper in the hope of gaining employment in a specific field.

[@ronski4677]

Sounds like copium, especially when you consider the tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars that cost. Is it really that fun watching all those dollars go to waste?

[@matthewlloyd3255]

Sorry but I come from a different era and country than I guess the audience of this show - from a time and place where university education was either free or very cheap. Times change.@@ronski4677

[@helenbarrett6451]

If country falls to peices probably easier to get a visa in another country.

[@Boz196]

You dont have to go to university to learn, if you want to learn just study it yourself in your own time. I’m interested in economics and philosophy but I’d never get a degree in those fields because they’re useless. Instead I’m becoming an accountant because accounting is an actually useful skill.

[@rediculousman]

Haha. I did a trade as a diesel mechanic and then I studied mechanical engineering, so this is essentially my daily internal monologue.

[@MrMarkguth]

As a diesel mechanic, I left skool in Year 10 in the 80’s, made great coin in the mines, but I tell the school based apprentices we get time to time to finish year 12, because there’s a lot of electronics in todays machines. Driverless machines are here now, and it’s mind blowing where it’s all going

[@shaddolf6662]

I expected this to end with the uni guy realising he will earn less than tafe guy 😂

[@edward7282]

for most degrees the uni guy would earn more assuming they find a job. but it would take a couple years to make up for the debt

[@shaddolf6662]

@@edward7282 I reckon these days a self employed sparky would earn more than most people with degrees.

[@LaShYz1]

​@@shaddolf66621000%

[@edward7282]

​@@shaddolf6662that depends a lot on how they market yourself and the local competition. I know a guy who fixes ride on mowers and due to the lack of competition in his area (rural SA), he's able to make well over 200K a year from that

[@OMGLittleB]

@@shaddolf6662"self employed" no sh*t. The only difference is that the uni students are capable at potentially running a business in a higher field, thus earning more. An EE can run a electrician company, but can a electrician run a chip fab? It's just the potential in business that's all.

[@ozziekhoo]

2nd year doing thesis?? Bro's hustling 😅

[@DanWhe]

And the ‘engineering’ student will end up doing letter drops for an asphalt paving company!

[@questionyourself718]

As someone who did an apprenticeship first and then decided to do a bachelor i can say this is 100% true! Hands on experience and no debt is worth way more than some fancy paper! Because even with good grades.. if you didnt do some work besides uni, some internships, traineeships or self employed in the field you wanna work at. Most companys dont care about you and take the guy with no degree but 4 years of relevant job experience. Sad but true.

[@slaydierzy6216]

Uni= Nerds and success TAFE= wandering around and not interested students

[@joshuaschumacher2315]

Yessssssssss

[@birdmoney]

KZbin comments section= Pretentious douche bags who think people are defined by their job