SHAMAN on TURTLE WoW: What Has Changed?

Are you curious what's changed for Shaman on Turtle WoW? In this video, I'll take a look at the most significant changes that went into the Shaman here on Turtle WoW and how they'll impact your class playstyle.
Whether you're a veteran Shaman player or brand new to Turtle wow, this video is for you! I'll take a look at the new features and changes, and see how they'll affect the Shaman playstyle when leveling, in pve and pvp. After watching this video, you'll be able to better understand the changes and decide if it's worth choosing to play Shaman here on Turtle WoW!
0:00 - Intro
2:31 - New Abilities
10:05 - Talent Changes
17:45 - Tips & Tricks
25:18 - The little pvp ofc
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[@shjelde660]

Hi. I'm only 80 subscribers away from 1k. If you like my content please consider subscribing 🙏

[@PolybiusArcadia]

It was a pleasure to work with you on this! I love this class!

[@shjelde660]

Thanks champ, and right back at ya 😀

[@karerabbe7829]

Whats the diffrence between Duskaven vanilla + and Turtle wow?

[@papercliphat4305]

Very helpful video thank you!

[@haylax4186]

Would love to see hunter's next becasue the one of the new abilities they get completely changes how hard a hunter can push ! Also i love shaman's bloodlust :D

[@shjelde660]

Noted 👍

[@Kanivalos80]

Lvling my shaman slowly in TW, very detailed video ;)

[@cornelius3150]

Nice vid, ty! Funny how u pronounce 'agility' :D Hope u do all clases!

[@f4kkAa]

We need more of this Videos!

[@tigeryumyums9407]

Ele shaman is straight up dominant in PvP on turtle. Another minor but welcome change is natures guidance moving around and 2h axes and maces automatically learned. Really nice

[@patrickobrienstr]

I would love for you to go into priest. This series is awesome by the way. I want to level every class you’ve covered so far.

[@deadwalkerpseudocode6003]

Thanks for the info, do Druids next pls 👍🖖

[@joshgaston7839]

I've started Shaman Tanking in Turtle about a year ago after the talent changes. I was really successful with it up until I hit BRD and tried tanking at lvl 55 with 60s in the group. Was impossible to hold threat. I loved your talent suggestions for increased tanking potential. Considering Shamans cannot wear plate, I think it'd be only fair that they include some extra threat generating ability to compensate where they lack with armor.

[@server1ok]

You tank with Shammy through damage. If you team with epic gear lvl60 in BRD ? then you can't do the job. 1. You have to play with an equal level team. 2. Use a slow 1h weapon for max SS. 3. Spam earth shock. 4. Get the + 3 hit talent and get strength on ALL gear pieces and use proc enchants and proc trinkets. 5. Use Rockbiter weapon, NOT WF. 6. Never give WF totem to the team, use grace of air totem, this will moderate the teams threat and provide more dps for you. 7. Get shield spike, thorns etc. damage return items and buffs.

[@hiperlocoflow]

yo love the music in this !

[@CatroiOz]

The main difference is in all the custom gear that had been added and that is tuned towards shamans. Itemazation being one of the main weaknesses of ele/enh shamans. Moreover a lot of already existing gear has had its stats reworked, Check out the T2 and T2.5 especially

[@CobaltContrast]

I'm surprised the passive bonus with elemental shields was cut. That should be a late game option either by higher ranks or through talents.

[@josefniederer5039]

dude, turtle wow looks dope as hell. I could see how calm elements could be used in MC for speed clears to avoid certain trash

[@zeraora807]

Just made a shaman last night only level 10 and im already falling in love with it

[@damz3845]

keep up the series pls!

[@shjelde660]

Once i reach 1k subs I'll release the next part 😀

[@damz3845]

@@shjelde660 start producing mate only 5 left ;) sub!

[@shjelde660]

I'm on it 😅

[@nathancasey7712]

Nice guide man. You excited for the pvp server?

[@XPISTOS-ANESTH]

Great guide whats your unbiased opinion about ele/resto pvp wise? Just wondered is any hybrid caster spec viable for pvp mainly same like priests got smite spec for example or paladins shockadins. May i ask you as well which addon did you use in the pvp fight in the end is it grid? Thanks in advance for any reply:)

[@shjelde660]

I prefer ele in pvp, but hybrid I'll have to try when I get to 60 :)

[@XPISTOS-ANESTH]

@@shjelde660 okie dokie mate keep the good job

[@XPISTOS-ANESTH]

Atm I'm levelling as ele and is a pain having to stop and drink for mana is it getting better later?

[@shjelde660]

@@XPISTOS-ANESTH ele starts to get better at lvl 40 only, i say lvl as enh untill lvl 40. Then get gear with afix "Nature's Wrath" for ele at 40.

[@CobaltContrast]

I wish i knew more of this. I would have chosen a different race for my shaman.

[@TrainSmokeButNoDope]

Amazing video !what's the addon that showed blind/sap duration at end ,pls save my life

[@shjelde660]

Hahaha okay okay, I'll make a addon video 😂

[@legendofJupp]

Nice video! When you do a video on hunter: please ask a raiding hunter how the class feels. I fear that the Trueshot spam is really boring. Thanks!

[@shjelde660]

Yes make sure you sub and stay tuned

[@eikhansen]

Would love to see Warrior. It doesn’t seem like much has changed, at a glance, but I bet there is something lurking under the hood.

[@CatroiOz]

Thunderclap is available in defensive stance. Might seem small but it makes a huge difference!

[@moisesaguirre8413]

Great video dude! Shaman actually looks cool and fun, and not a meme lol

[@magnus7609]

Please do Druid next!

[@mmo_joey7376]

Not sure if someone asked you this already, but what add-ons are you using?

[@karerabbe7829]

Hi, i want to play Classic, and maybe BC on private server, where and what server would you recommend? I want it as close and similar to the real thing as possible. And where do i download and play the legit no scam or virus versions?:)

[@stephano686]

Theres no lava burst right?

[@RMMFeed]

What would a tanking spec look like?

[@NinaFelwitch]

For some reason I learned the new Shields with my Shaman and then completely forgot about them. But the wolves got buffed a few weeks ago and are now quite strong I think.

[@RandomGamplaysShoty]

Heal crits also proc elemental focus even tho it does say damaging ability I does not change anything really. Like I could spam rank 1 healing wave before a fight to start of with the proc but that’s no game changer. Maybe could be used for a ele/heal hybrid but i don’t see the point of that tbh.

[@2Spookeh4Me]

Is it even worth playing shaman enhancement for pve and pvp in this server ?

[@z3yjIn]

I think they should have changed the "Parry" or "2handed Waepon Skill" into "Plate Armor" Talent :P

[@tellagann3332]

Tellagann here. Another new thing is a great new casual guild called Farmers Market has started. Join our raid reaping and quest farming today.

[@keldor8302]

The suggestion for fire totems to generate threat for the shaman isn't realistic for how classic is coded. The only way in which you can transfer aggro generation in WoW is by targetting an ally and using an ability (like misdirect) to then link your aggro table to theirs in some fashion. This would mean coding the fire totems to first target the caster and using an ability to transfer aggro to them. Then casting whatever spell that fire totem performs. That's incredibly complicated and likely to be extremely difficult to get it working reliably without issue. You then also run into the problem of then having to rebalance magma and nova totems. As those generate an incredible amount of threat. Thus why the elemental talent exists to decrease cast time on nova and threat on magma. Shamans would be insane AoE threat tanks with your suggestion. Especially since nova has no threat cap due to it not existing after it casts. So the devs would then have to create a threat cap for that. Which is also complicated and a change to a core coding aspect to the ability. Also, in regards to your hybrid spec discussion. Flametongue weapon enchant counts as a spell and can proc clearcast as well as do increased damage from Elemental Fury talent as it's a fire spell. And if it crits, it will then proc Elemental Devastation talent for increased melee crit. And with how Flametongue weapon enchant is coded. Melee crits have a bonus chance to proc flametongue crits as well (this was done to offset it's lower base damage and spellpower scaling requirements). Couple that with Flurry being proc'ed when you crit with a melee attack. And a macro to initiate an auto before casting lightning with a spellpower dagger. And you have a quick autoattack that amounts to less then a global cooldown for two chances to trigger clearcasting before each lightning bolt cast. You lose out on using spellpower oil on your weapon. But gain significant mana efficiency in exchange. Allowing you to use a higher rank of lightning unless you run into bad luck and don't proc any crits at all. This is a unique and experimental thing that I was building towards... before the server crash a couple weeks ago killed my hardcore shaman at lvl59. XD

[@shjelde660]

I've done some extensive testing now, and it seems that windfury come on top every time, testing it with different specs, and different weapons with different speeds, testing all the weapon enhancements. Windfury is hands down the winner. it seems that flametounge does not proc flurry and it does not proc elemental devastation. though it would be cool if it did.

[@bloodfurypk666]

warrior look the same on this server ?

[@sarico7827]

You know as a shaman that has been a enhancement and raided for years on Twow. I hope they do a bit more for DPS shamans. This will sound funny but after talent changes I unfortunately had more animosity for being a DPS shaman instead of healing. So I think just a bit more would be greatly loved. I like your idea of a bit more talents that force you to pick between tanking or DPS much like druids.

[@2Spookeh4Me]

Im about to start playing on the server. Is it even worth playing Ench shaman if i plan on doing pve?

[@sarico7827]

@@2Spookeh4Me You will have some challenges finding raids but if you can find a guild that will let you it's all good. I have one but outside of that it can be a challenge. Maybe try it out or well duskheaven reforged when it comes out. Shaman DPS just didn't get anything helpful for raiding. Buffs or changes mostly help in pvp or lvling.

[@2Spookeh4Me]

@@sarico7827 what about resto shaman do people want those in raids on the server? I was thinking of maybe going shadow priest for pvp too

[@sarico7827]

@@2Spookeh4Me yep resto for days. Shadow is good people even like them in raid. Dps and mana are solid. That's what really hold shamans back is mana. Healers always wanted.

[@2Spookeh4Me]

@@sarico7827 I might just go priest then. I like the shadow changes made for turtle. If paladin was available for horde side i'd play that, but all my buddies went horde . Thanks for help!

[@jgalla5549]

imagine if Blizz hired these Turtle wow devs and made this on the silky smooth classic client....

[@woodcrestth7316]

its not silky smooth lol I much prefer the 1.12. Only things I like about the 1.14 client is the macroing is better and the graphics are better.

[@jacjagger5585]

So ele shamy is any good for leveling?

[@shjelde660]

Yes from lvl 40 and onward

[@aandrenery]

I didn't know Turtle had world pvp. Interesting .

[@zelphermm]

what about a shaman leveling spec for turtle wow

[@Felipe-vj8el]

Is the Orc racial more OP than the others or it is my idea? Is there a reason to not play orc shaman over the others?

[@shjelde660]

I'd say troll seems very good in pvp!

[@swagnius]

Tauren one should be good for resto shaman. Splitting damage is efficient when you have chain heal and it's basically just a damage reduction on your tank.

[@fotisxoxlakas5905]

Druid next

[@Oscar-pm9bx]

Any chance you could slap your addons somewhere, or send em through discord?

[@CobaltContrast]

Enhancment has a few talents that help you tank but they seriously need more diversity and robustness if a Mail wearer is going to tank like a druid, Pali, or warrior can. I want some kind of tank healing that comes naturally to shaman. The Spirit Wolves could be a great tanking ability if worked out that way. They should get the same stamina buff or similiar that Druids get. Bloodlust should be either nerfed potential, but now always works or is triggered on kill.

[@shjelde660]

i think pvp needs to be kept in mind whenever you try to balance something, it should be balanced for both pve AND pvp

[@CobaltContrast]

@shjelde660 hahaha. So right. I'm playing HC. Forgot pvp existed. I'm still feeling rough after clearing RFC last night. Shaman has more utility than ever but it's not enough to tank on HC

[@shjelde660]

@@CobaltContrast true

[@agentdelta569]

i like how turtle wow mentions specifically elementals issues in PVE but then gives them an earth shield that gives you a reduced chance for interruption (mostly a pvp thing) and a water shield where you only get mana if you take damage (you take more damage in pvp than pve) also having 2handers base line means elemental can now carry a big fat 2 hander instead of a staff in pvp, give it windfury, and hey, even without any melee gear, you could get lucky and deal big damage

[@shjelde660]

Yep

[@agentdelta569]

@@shjelde660 ele was already scary in classic wow pvp, really makes me worry about turlte wows elemental pvp capabilities

[@pokemonduck]

PvP was never balanced in Vanilla to begin with

[@shjelde660]

Compared to ?

[@jacechan5499]

feel like all new racial is useless beside the turan one (after buff to only 20sec cd)

[@giceism2832]

Is there an internal cooldown on windfury procs?

[@agentdelta569]

back ground music?

[@shjelde660]

It's on screen

[@danieledelhoff9731]

Could you give us your addon list? I really like your ui

[@zytha2890]

this makes troll enhancement *very* lethal :U

[@druidactual]

need a druid video :)

[@akuseru85]

Does alliance have access to Shaman? And horde access to Paladin?

[@shjelde660]

No

[@akuseru85]

@@shjelde660 That's great news!

[@paytondelaney8316]

I just want to play a 2hander again.

[@Dunedek]

Anyone else notice how he said a gill it tee

[@mercaderrifty6709]

That tauren racial seems like it could really make them a viable option for tanking or offtanking

[@shjelde660]

Seems like a few Tauren shamans is a must have in any raid 🤔

[@shjelde660]

They just changed it back i think, orcs also changed

[@mercaderrifty6709]

@God Lee did the percentage of the link get buffed to compensate for the increased cooldown?

[@fufu1405]

''Shejmen''

[@karerabbe7829]

Whats the diffrence between Duskaven vanilla + and Turtle wow?

[@shjelde660]

Turtle wow is blizzlike, Duskhaven is more of a fun server, new classes and crazy shit. VanillaPlus is dead

[@flex2067]

I like the server allot but yeah you have to level so i played a bit and left i don't have time to level

[@PrismaticFitness]

Levelling is the fun part of wow, I get bored as soon as I hit 60

[@henseltbrumbleburg3752]

What's the background music?

[@shjelde660]

Its turtle wow ingame music. the turtle wow team made it :). Checkout my turtle wow review video, i go over the music part in that one

[@henseltbrumbleburg3752]

@@shjelde660 Yeah will do, can I get a link or name of the track? thanks man.

[@shjelde660]

Every song is listed at the start of each song in the bottom corner of the video 👍

[@henseltbrumbleburg3752]

@@shjelde660 I'm not seeing it, I'm sure the track I'm looking for starts at 19:00 but not seeing anything listed. Would really appreciate if you know what it is! Also thanks for making this guide for the server, really helped!

[@shjelde660]

@@henseltbrumbleburg3752 oh thats because its the same song as in the begining at 2:30 - Its called "Turtle wow - Temporary Peace"

[@Shawn_DC]

Is troll a good choice? I'd rather play troll then orc/tauren

[@shjelde660]

Very good for pvp !

[@d0k0night]

OK this is nice and interesting but all this just feels like a remix of WoW Classic/TBC/Wrath. May be interesting but I don't know if I'll get into it.

[@BlueHans]

Turtle WoW REALLY needs to update their website... Also: How sensible is it to base some of your talent suggestions on rank 13 gear? How attainable is this on TWoW? As far as I know, they kept the bad Vanilla ranking system for the most part. Theocrafting should not just be for those 0.5% of players who can dump the most time into the game. #gamerdad

[@shjelde660]

yep!

[@shjelde660]

Well there are lots of items that could fill the hybrid niche. R12 gear is just some of the best :) But t2,5 from aq has some of the same qualities

[@Dennymcintyre536]

I think they did a bit to make pvp more attainable. I watched a vid the other day.

[@Austin-mane]

What i don’t understand is why talents only unlock at level 10 it would be interesting to change it to level 1

[@max7971]

I wanted to say “go to retail, casual” but even retail wow doesn’t unlock talents before lvl 10 lmao

[@ahetzel9054]

Honestly they should take a look at duskhavens shaman. They definitely made enhance and ele sham wayyyy better. Turtle wows shaman seems kinda meh in comparison.

[@shjelde660]

with the changes made to shamans here on turtle wow, i'd say they have become the strongest class in pvp as elemental. if they were to add anything it should be for enhance/resto. else the balance would break

[@server1ok]

Shamans buffed and Turtle players are still asking for more dps.

[@loadnlock357]

Wish they would just give up on shaman tanking. Its stupid

[@IgglePyggle]

sh-ahh-man, not sh-ayyy-man

[@shjelde660]

gotcha :)

[@shoc2177]

hahaha Shaman on Turtle wow is basicly vanilla shaman, with a new spell here and there. nothing changed in terms of viability

[@damz3845]

and still shaman is a bad class cause the changes dont go far enough. Atleast thats what the current state of enhancer is and i hear same about elemental.

[@TheSpartanlaw]

Im a potato

[@shjelde660]

i think i got one stuck in my throat :(

[@americanpatriot66]

Turtle WoW is being held back by its administration. Horror story after horror about players being banned for saying things that the admins don't like or disagreeing with one of them over simple game related things. They need to get their power tripping in check.

[@shjelde660]

Interesting 😮

[@Jkg71]

Yeah I actually got IP banned for three days for typing in "lol" at a joke someone made in newcomers guild. I had no idea the GM would take offense at that!

[@nikvezunchik]

I got banned for politics but kind of understandable

[@americanpatriot66]

Lots of reviews of Turtle WoW are saying the same. With Era servers growing at crazy rates Turtle missed the boat by having a power hungry mod team. Turtle's player base has started to shrink over the last few weeks.

[@Revament]

@@americanpatriot66 Its only increasing lol judging by the player count graph

[@Dux_Sux]

Every time he says "shaymen" I lose 1 month on my lifespan

[@shjelde660]

You better not watch is several times

[@shjelde660]

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[@Black_Kakari]

As native African, I want to correct all you Americans, Shaman is pronounced - SH-AH-MAN not SH-AY-MIN

[@shjelde660]

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[@420thugsta]

I like space goat shammies tho