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[@IHOOP415]

I feel Donnie! Lost my Mom 5years ago. Holidays haven’t been and probably won’t ever be the same. I hope the joy of your little one experiencing their first Xmas can help balance things out for you Donnie.

[@KnightFoxx1190]

I wasn’t expecting a show this week, but thank you guys for this Christmas present!!!

[@TEHU63]

I feel Donnie. I lost my mom 10 years ago and my sister this time this year. It's been rough. Sending peace, light and love to all those who have lost loved ones.

[@mykenicholson8522]

Prayers up for Donnie & his family 🖤💯💪🏿

[@saphire2214]

Rachel came through with the Ashanti sings for J-Lo shade. I’m so here for it. Went right over Van’s head. 😂

[@jessicapatrickjessicataylo5285]

Donnie, keep pushing and finding the little ways to remember your mom. She sees you and she is proud! Love to you!!

[@KiedaBordeaux]

Happy Holiday’s y’all! Thanks for the Christmas Eve episode! Sending love to Donnie!

[@jamaldoe1151]

Van articulated the point about fat. Joe using the n-word So comfortably and freely and why we as black people need to gatekeep certain things. I haven't heard anybody speak so well about that topic. Kudos to brother Van.

[@nguday2003]

I think depending on who you are and where you are. There are Puerto Ricans who consider themselves black. Many people outside of New York don’t understand how intricately weaved NYC is for black and brown people. There is also anti blackness in the DR community. I would not use it if I were a non black person use it and I think is using it is also problematic but there is no unity on the issue. I’m tired of fighting us not to use it. But I will say we are the only race that uses slurs against ourselves or even as a positive and a negative.

[@nguday2003]

I think depending on who you are and where you are. There are Puerto Ricans who consider themselves black. Many people outside of New York don’t understand how intricately weaved NYC is for black and brown people. There is also anti blackness in the DR community. I would not as a non black person use it and I think is using it is also problematic but there is no unity on the issue. I’m tired of fighting us not to use it. But I will say we are the only race that uses slurs against ourselves or even as a positive and a negative.

[@nealmike5490]

Exactly

[@shotarokaneda7525]

​@@nguday2003 The issue with Joe is he perfectly exposed that he doesn't respect the black americans as a distinct culture. Jamaicans, People from DR, italians, irish etc can have their own culture...however if you are FBA you have no right to be distinct. It is sick

[@GuyRBrewer109]

Math Hoffa is just like Acho the Ebo. These are foreign lineaged Blacks participating in Black culture and feeling comfortable enough going in front of whitefolks and speaking on and to our politics. This is what we meant about Kamala not being a Blackwoman. We cannot have none tof these people, even if they can pass as Black, representing us in no way and no how.

[@PaigeH83]

I didn’t think you guys were going to do a podcast this week. Thanks 🙏🏾

[@madsin372]

He don’t even go here! I love you Rachel!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Kemdoc]

This is such a great podcast as a whole. Feels like we’re all friends as it should be! Sending comfort to all missing a special loved one on Xmas. ❤❤

[@mieldor76]

You guys do a great job with booking guests! Happy Holidays 🎄🎄

[@spider-man1918]

Christmas can be difficult. Happy seasons.

[@marciagardiner5451]

Straight faced Rachel is messy. 😂 "That wasn't even my voice that was Ashanti."

[@jesuisleconqueror]

Was she lying though 😂😂😂😂

[@roycewynn6769]

“Tug Spider-Man’s longjohn”😭

[@fabs1015]

When it comes to the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni story, two things can be true. Blake Lively was probably harassed on set but she also is not likeable. I’m not sure if she only had the movie’s box office performance at heart. Lets remember she used a movie about intimate violence to promote her new hair care line as well as a new beverage. Crazy. She refused to acknowledge the main character was a victim of violence and encouraged women to go watch the movie with their girlfriends like it was a party. To me she sounds a bit disconnected. BUT it doesn’t mean she shouldn’t be believed and that she deserved what happened on set.

[@ThousandairesClub]

*Fat Joe saying the N word always made me cringe* 😬

[@zeepickens9049]

☝🏾 *!!!!!!!!!*

[@naturalbeauty637]

I’m not listening to anyone who used to get beat up every day as a kid AND got his nickname because his big ass crack was always showing.

[@Lewis-ul8hf]

I agree but anyone using it makes me cringe. U think everyone calling black people that honestly saying it in love and brotherhood

[@jon_ari_]

Van holding the nerf gun during the Gaetz convo is so 😭💀

[@Kemdoc]

🥴💀😂

[@Tortilla.Reform]

🥋

[@ehrenmuhammad]

Prayers for Donnie and his loved ones. Best to you and yours.

[@GetHERGLOW]

The bottom line is that we as Black Americans need to start gatekeeping our culture more-period. In private and in public.

[@lovablelu]

Agree 💯 with Rachel about fat joe!

[@Byvanessalewis]

Compilation video of the best guests or best of Van’s random stories

[@Always.with.Love.]

Appreciate you guys’ perspective on the Joey remarks. Thanks Van for always being on-code, staying solid when it comes to black American/ foundational black American issues. Love the podcast, much love to you both and happy holidays🎄❤

[@ashknows90]

Mans really asked why Rosa Parks ain’t take a cab to the civil rights protest 😂

[@oladeebiazazi4538]

Craziness🤦🏿‍♂️

[@Tortilla.Reform]

I must’ve missed that, when did he ask that?

[@BonitaGardner]

See some of these young people are clueless as hell 🤦🏾‍♀️🤯

[@RoseleneDolce7]

Happy holidays, Van, Rachel, and Donnie. Thank you for all you do. 🙏🏾🎄🎁 💙💙

[@rockb922]

No Van, Black Americans are rejecting the notion that other groups get to have rules for themselves that we're not allowed to have for ourselves. If they can have cultural boundaries then so can we, and everyone's kicking and screaming because we simply want the same respect for our culture that everyone else's culture gets.

[@jamaldoe1151]

That's pretty much exactly what he just said.

[@7lillie]

Van and Rachel just said that,they weren't fighting you😂

[@BornGiftedMusicGroup]

What culture American culture by default is a blend of all the places ppl came from Once here, any black person is viewed the same and expected to hold the line with black ppl here If someone born somewhere else and lives here fba ppl name them to segment them and claim they can’t speak on certain topics yet some get mad if said ppl claim where they were born over the generalized black labeling Now if fba wants this to be a thing And ignore we are all ancestors of slavery no matter where our birth occurred then be we must careful with how that could really play out As any power that may exist will diminish with more division

[@naturalbeauty637]

@@BornGiftedMusicGroupYou must come from an immigrant back ground. Saying Foundational Black Americans don’t have a culture is ignorant. We are the culture which is why everyone wants to be like us, dress like us, talk like us. Open up a book and you’ll know that we have a rich culture that you are ignorant to.

[@rockb922]

​@@BornGiftedMusicGroup what culture? Black American culture, the most copied culture on the globe. Don't be ignorant

[@lamar679]

It’s weird when I agree with Rachel. She was 100% right on the fat Joe situation

[@Twofivefour268]

I feel you Donnie ❤ Praying you got through it. Happy Holidays y’all

[@nerdlarge4691]

Van better stop gassing up Shameik before he gets him punted across Lake Erie for running up on Mr. Buffalo. This ain’t the Spiderverse.😂

[@leejohn_bns]

5:32 Donnie is comfortable now lol "Let's talk about sex and drugs" 😂

[@DanielLaurentSME]

I'm so happy didn't think we were getting another one

[@DorianEyre]

I'm dead at Van holding that toy gun during the entire podcast

[@chafrajayfra32]

So funny Van said what I’ve been posting too, President Musk and VP Trump. I’ve also heard President Musk and First Lady Trump😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@EricaVainTV]

Rachel has runnnnn with this "I'm on Blake side" narrative.. have we forgotten about the wedding on the plantation.. the antebellum lifestyle brand.. Women have been holding Blake Lively ACCOUNTABLE ... its not all women hating on her because of patriarchy.. If Justin did anything inappropriate he SHOULD be help accountable AND that doesnt change that BLAKE didn't need help turning people against her because she has shown herself to be NASTY to other WOMEN... I am so disappointed watching Rachels take on this..

[@CIO12345]

Agree. It’s always black or white - if you point out nuance, then you have “internalized misogyny.” How about she’s not perfect and that’s ok? And it’s ok to not like her outside of what she experienced, and this doesn’t negate the seriousness of her allegations.

[@Tortilla.Reform]

When has she shown herself to be nasty to other women?

[@Tortilla.Reform]

@@CIO12345When did anyone say she was perfect?

[@teliciamoore6316]

well for her to be so nasty her husband hasn't left her and none of her friends have turned against her, seems normal to me

[@CIO12345]

@@Tortilla.ReformGossip girl, rumored affair with Ben Affleck, accounts from her personal assistants and PAs on set…she has a very poor reputation

[@trulyt247]

They wasn’t picking up what you was putting down Rachel about Ashanti 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@tashawnasanders77]

Math Hoffa is not FBA thats why he was so comfortable with Joe being disrespectful.

[@keishaf4057]

1:09:29 "For coppin?!" 😂

[@robstark9274]

Rachel spot on

[@ellec2830]

30:06 I'm dead!!!!🤭🤭

[@ericbrooks939]

Math Hoffa is not FBA.

[@latoyasimpson8990]

I really love Rachel but being pro woman does not mean not being able to call people out. Blake is beyond a mean girl. It’s not an excuse for her to be harassed but to act like the hate she receives isn’t valid is crazy.

[@blackbag5177]

Love you Donnie !

[@Cindustrys]

Sorry, why are we taking Lively's side? This is the one time I won't take the women's side.

[@prissylily25]

Van looks good!!! Rachel looks pretty! Happy holidays ❤❤❤

[@nicolewalsh6656]

Her not eating her soup was really bothering me 😂 why am I like this? 🙈

[@1saxophone]

I had to start fresh with ya'll. I was struggling to make it through that Jaleel White episode.

[@DonBrownII]

I skipped it on purpose. Already knew it was gonna be some foolery

[@Wideout4]

FBA isn’t a group it’s a lineage…..

[@classynoginilr7891]

Thank you Rachel! She was rude and he's a creep. Both true

[@MiguelCastro-hm1mm]

I'd have to agree with you guys; a 2 shot with the Katt Williams & Cassie Ventura combination.

[@Kidnplay824]

Disagree with Rachel. If that group Wants to constantly speak on fat Joe he has the right to respond and counter

[@kipsmithers6470]

He can counter. But all the rhetoric about “black radicals” “broke niggaz” that’s too much. He’ll never use Hispanic/latino epithets.

[@AJ-pc5ln]

He would never get on camera and call LGBT people the F word. He's a white dude he should not be saying the Nword.

[@Wideout4]

It’s a lineage not a group. And he’s always speaking on that lineage. You are late

[@etherieeetheriee1636]

@@Wideout4 Preach

[@tashawnasanders77]

FBA is not a group. They are Foundational Black Americans which Van and Rachel are both FBA. Fat Joe know damn well what alot Tariq saying is true. I'm old enough to remember when Latinos use to call hip hop jungle/monkey music.

[@synesthesia86]

Best thing you can post is the best of Animal Games. Although I'm very very new here as per stipulation and have very much never seen it before.

[@DuShaun-54]

I JUST lost my daddy in July & to make matters worse, his birthday is on Xmas eve. As a 54 year young woman, things haven’t been the same since I lost my mommy when I was 21. Holidays have been different for some time. I get it. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Put on a good face for the youngin’ Donnie. Stay strong young man.

[@Astarz22]

Where was allllllllllll this energy towards Charlemagne you guys pick and choose , when Andrew said what he said where you @ Racheal because Van did address it

[@tashawnasanders77]

Rachel always addresses Andrew behavior and Charlemagne for allowing Andrew to talk the way he does. Van be the one capping for Andrew.

[@Riccostorm5971]

The thing that gets lost in this whole Fat Joe thing is that he was talking about who created or helped create hip-hop... He didn't comment about the plight of the black man, the black community, or what we were doing wrong as a whole. People hear black, and noooooooo you can even speak on it... The man can't give his opinion on Hip-Hop??? The use 'N' word is a different argument....Keep that same energy with people you like (Charla)

[@nealmike5490]

He's Puerto Ricans he's not like us

[@nonealike]

Right, they should've presented the context and background surrounding Joe's statements. Instead they began with Rachel's disdain for him, but they are not journalists so I guess it is what it is (as far as personal feelings go). FBA's are claiming to be the sole originators of all things related to Black American culture. I understand the roots of their cause, but the insults and antagonizing of black people from other countries takes the legs out of their legitimacy. It negates the struggle people in the diaspora faced w/colonization. Hoarding victimhood, is low key American exceptional-ist asf but I digress. Also ignoring the influence of the diaspora IN CERTAIN aspects (a la Hip-Hop) of Black American culture is a bit overreaching and inaccurate at times. The claim of being and existing in America pre- trans Atlantic slavery is enough. Rap is but 1 element of (the 5 in) Hip Hop iykyk. And the loudest mf'ers don't know. It's a NY thing in it's origins and if you were from certain areas/conditions then you were apart of it. Ny'ers never had a problem with that.

[@nonealike]

As far as the "non-black" use of the N word. It's a slippery slope in NYC. Folks don't understand the demographics. Everybody from the outside wants to talk about what they would do but they aren't there lol. NYC isn't largely Black and white like some other places. So if you're in the hood, you're just gonna be hood and do/say hood shi. Particularly if you are Black (from the diaspora) or Brown (Spanish speaking). Class factors in heavily. In which case the n word just means a dude. I can see how it's problematic to folk though but, again, it's mostly outsiders who have an issue with it.

[@scionnole]

@Riccostorm5971 Completely agree. Fat Joe is only speaking on FBA because they have attacked him over trying to tell the history of the various ethnicities/communities with creating hip-hop. In my mind he has a right to make that defense. As far as the n-word. I don't use it but others do and I don't get trying to gate keep a word. If it's out there it will be used.

[@cald4aprps628]

​@nonealike Those "outsiders" have ancestors who were deeply affected by that word and if they ask for him not to say it, they why does he feel entitled to continue to say it? It becomes disrespect at that point.

[@xMXWLx]

1:22:10 cassie was used just like luigi as a patsy and pawn for someone else to go at diddy.

[@leundrewilliams2433]

Good shit

[@Funkpopdiva24]

Who are the people not giving American Blacks their flowers and why is anyone listening to those people. Black American culture is beautiful, rich and lasting. It is why as a mother I fight to keep it in the school system. I am Caribbean and my husband is black American and we don’t get the divisiveness. We can appreciate all black culture and each other. Why are we fighting? It feels manufactured to separate black people and make white supremacy stronger. White people aren’t distinguishing themselves from one another and are plotting against us. How are we going to fight against white supremacy when we are in-fighting? Also, why is Van mad at Joe who has contributed to hip hop and not Andrew Schultz who has done nothing for the culture. Fat Joe ain’t right but Andrew Schultz was all the way wrong. LOVE you Van but you need to keep that same energy. Peace!

[@clarkbryant8222]

As a New Yorker born and raised, the not giving flower thing is definitely real. It’s easy to “other” people when you don’t acknowledge or respect their existence.

[@sagagirl6280]

@Funkpopdiva Great post. We've got to change that we/them mentality as Black people in the Diaspora and, join forces in order to strengthen our voice and fight for change in these United States.

[@Browneye475]

I already know Elliot is going to be on some B.S. I still fail to understand his relevance Sidenote: Fat Joe is the prime ex of why NYC hip hop is on life support. NY eats their own

[@zeepickens9049]

*Totally☝🏾!!!!!*

[@MrMF44]

He’s always been wack

[@zeepickens9049]

@MrMF44 ☝🏾 *!!!!!!!!!*

[@amandaluvzu22]

“The love is mutual”😂

[@mskeepinit1hundred]

What was annoying AF is girly slurping that damn soup🙄

[@naturalbeauty637]

Yeah that was gross and rude.

[@LzyArt]

Shameik is going to end up like Jason Mitchell. He's potentially flushing a huge opportunity down the toilet if Sony decides to act on this.

[@MRLONG758]

Don't think he'll lose that opportunity for this unless something crazier happened.

[@LzyArt]

​​@@MRLONG758It's borderline harassment. I could see Sony playing it safe and releasing Shameik if Hailee expresses any discomfort working with him going forward. These corporations aren't playing.

[@LzyArt]

​@@MRLONG758It's borderline harassment. I could see Sony moving on from him if Hailee expresses any discomfort from working with him again.

[@alwill6536]

It ain't that serious.

[@aisharedux781]

Loving the cute and pretty fresh facedness of Rachel! Love the episode as well lol

[@pt4350]

47:19 😂 Van is hilarious

[@akaziaj]

Wow! Van just high jacked Donny's story. I know it's to connect with the person, but I hate it.🙁

[@MrMF44]

Since van is a foundational Black American, I would love to hear his opinion on rat joe.

[@deebrown7160]

FBA can't claim other people's cultures but everyone can just steal little bits of our culture and call it their own.

[@djames765]

They focused on that twerk video but not too much on them DM’s lol

[@christinedavis9796]

Please correct the spelling of harassment in the heading.

[@MRLONG758]

Shamiek definitely a weirdo

[@mrsrussell]

Interesting... in NYC a cop is suspended without pay for overtime pay but suspended with pay for shooting someone

[@TheHiLiteShow7]

Rachel looks lovely with this hairstyle

[@liteeyes1882]

I completely understand Donnie's feelings about the Holidays! I lost my mom and have no desire to celebrate Christmas, it's extremely depressing!!! Sending prayers to everyone dealing with the loss of loved ones during the Holidays!!! 🙏🏾 Rachel spoke facts about Fat Joe!!! I always hated how comfortable Fat Joe felt saying the N word; the fact he refuses to stop saying it shows he doesn't respect Black people!!! He only cares about being able to say it!!!

[@Adore7_AUM]

Higher Learning 1. Katt 2. Kendrick Happy Holidays! Signed ~African-American woman

[@nguday2003]

They released the report after learning that maniac was recommended for AG! He is the Diddy of Congress!

[@yasuke9317]

Rachel, I'm right there with you. I can't stand fat Joe

[@carlossanchezii5946]

Rachel looking kinda good with her wrap over her forehead 😊

[@HonestLeighSpeaking]

RACHEL IS CORRECT!!… The term “African-American” is specifically for the descendants of enslaved Africans born in the United States of America. It was coined by Jesse Jackson and 1988. It speaks to both ethnicity and nationality. Most Africans from the continent don’t call themselves Africans. They call themselves Nigerians, Senegalese, Liberians, Ethiopians etc… The term, African-Americans was because the descendants of enslaved Africans could not trace their ethnicity or nationality to a specific nation and Africa, and therefore have to refer to the entire continent. So, President Elon Musk is not an African-American. He’s just a white man who was born in Africa and is now an immigrant in America… The irony that the most anti-immigrant candidate would have an African immigrant who has multiple children by multiple women as the secret president is hilarious.

[@johnwashington7203]

Bruh Josh Allen ain’t breaking nobody up wtf 😂😂😂

[@dirtymenace2160]

no time stamp guy?

[@Bogalusa70427]

Rachel had a good weekend 😂

[@jonathancineus6424]

I agree with Rachel that “effing weirdo” was too much. Everybody is piling on the guy with millions of tweets, but wishing everybody a merry christmas and sending prayers to each other since it’s such “lonely time”. That’s weird. 🤦

[@asinn2020]

So, if you've fallen down the rabbit hole that is police interrogation videos, go check out "paroles, pardons, & and commutations," specifically New Orleans parish 😮 These hearings are wild! People do the worst shit and have the nerve to ask for parole. And, sometimes, they get it! 😮

[@ebatle9021]

Cmon Van say it. Your FBA from the soil

[@nealmike5490]

I'm Ados

[@haroldmoore1206]

I agree. Travis and his girl got choices to make. She'd be smart to lay low, make friends with the wags wherever Travis winds up, plan two fundraising events a year for poor people or whatever and start a small business of some sort to keep her busy until that first big contract in 4 years. Hopefully the heat has died out and then you can talk reality tv or whatever

[@vaughnjohnson1715]

Feliz navidad

[@katrina8077]

what is with the gun Vann??

[@zeepickens9049]

*Little☝🏾kid🔫energy!!!!*

[@SFrancoish]

Amber Heard in court made herself look like EVERYTHING Johnny AND others said about her.

[@Channel02Ant]

Every 10th grader’s worst nightmare 😂

[@jamineleph5207]

a) love the new beat b) VP Trump! Divide and conquer, baby. My dog Van knows his Sun Tzu 😂

[@jeshuamathis9013]

More like Rachel the ultra cute and smart. 😊 Merry Christmas 🎄 Van should stop interrupting you so much 😢

[@xMXWLx]

40:24 but van did just that when he hated on ye in public.

[@michaeltunsil2730]

Isn’t her fiancée Sam Jarou?

[@SEllis-u8e]

So I thought van is FBA and I don't have any clue what the girl is

[@chafrajayfra32]

Leave Travis and his relationship alone. We don’t know him or his life.

[@grantbugeye]

He can’t opt out of endorsements

[@reflections4me]

We Africans support FBA. Take your country back. We support you. Best of luck . Gate keep your music and what is yours . One love.

[@Gotmypopcorn2025]

I cant wait to hear what Rachel has ro say now that Justin Baldoni released the recipts 😂 Blake is not some weak fairy. She's an accomplished actress with a Billionaire, Actor husband and she intimidated the small-name Justin.

[@Nattiily]

Van is so fine

[@Bluejacket4life2]

Travis needs to keep his personal life off of social media

[@geekylove3603]

Did these guys talk about CTG and Andrew Schulz regarding the K Dot stuff?

[@ebonynerd]

Apparently Van and Charlemagne are Andrew's girlfriends and now he's added 50, he has a dusty bm harem 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@BeautyMarkBae]

Yup.

[@Cindustrys]

Jr. Vance lol hes the intern