Shanann Watts, Chris Watts, and NK Phone activity from late May to middle of August (PART 1)

Going through some of the more interesting texts from Shanann Watts, Chris Watts, and Nk.....from end of May to middle of August..
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[@mollypowell196]

I’m so glad Shan’ann and her daughters were able to spend 42 days with her parents; I just wish they had stayed there.

[@Spookiechoo]

Molly Powell me too😢😢I think about that a lot ❤️

[@bclassie8810]

Molly Powell Is I thought the same thing, When CW sent the text of the doll covered up. My mind go to a police station show the text, go get my babies. PERIOD The girls didn’t do that. They’re to young.

[@annaesmaili4867]

Molly Powell That’s just hit hard . Yes if only she would have stayed with her folks but she wanted to get home to her girls . I wish he’d have taken the girls out to N Carolina to be with Shannon and her folks .

[@ZavGirl]

I know me too Molly 😢

[@whistlingdixie502]

Molly Powell unforgivable what that maggot did and I know if Christian the redeemer Jesus forgives but I think even he would have a problem forgiving CW kids are off limits they are innocent !

[@kimberly25christinesmith72]

What drives me nuts is that nichole denies knowing he was married yet in their first emails she says that she wants a family like his.

[@mrs.cavalier3705]

Right? What is CW thinking? Here he is desperately trying to be a Bachelor, right?. Shanann is out of town for 42 days, with her parents. CHRIS WATTS KNOW exactly what he wants to but, instead attracts someone who is ready to start a family. WHAT? ...HOW IRONIC, wouldn't you say? Nicole kessinger ID not only titr, but ID going to be harsh on the media.

[@IaneHowe]

Kimberly25christine smith if she was stalking her in June she would be seen exactly her posting about been pregnant. She’s such a lier

[@wms72]

SHE KNEW ABOUT THE PREGNANCY, TOO. NK LIED TO LE AND SAID SHE DESTROYED HER SIM CARD BECAUSE SHE FOUND OUT ABOUT THE PREGNANCY ON THE NEWS.

[@aliciahermansen6319]

She googled Shanann a year before the murders

[@rachaelnelson4976]

He should had told her in them emails he’s married with 2 kids and one on the way and told her no on the sex and dates with her he broke up his home

[@blankenshipsarah2570]

He deleted Shanann’s texts because he was “deleting” HER!

[@Kimzielynn]

so sad

[@mrs.cavalier3705]

Exactly. He was romancing the idea of himself being a bachelor. What's funny is that NK then tells him that she wants to have his son. Exactly what he didn't want.

[@southerncross5360]

Sadly it’s what people like Chris do, they lie to everyone. I’ve personally experienced years with a psychopath and this case blew my mind. The Watt’s family murders is the most horrific tragedy so what I can share is based on his behavior before he became a killer. I understand what it’s like to have someone use the silent treatment as Shannan says to friends In text. That’s the worst feeling and people who don’t what it’s like can’t help you. Too I can understand what it’s like to be in Nicole’s shoes too not the same level, but psychopaths lie about everything!! I was in a situation where a Divorce was in progress and it wasn’t exactly what I thought and with me his mother and father were involved and why would they lie about it? I tend to believe that Chris was hiding everyone and their parts as they don’t fit his intentions and they wouldn’t matter because he wouldn’t tell anyone the truth, he’s learned to believe his own lies. There’s no telling what he hid from anyone who had a mouth he didn’t have friends either. I see it as Nicole was likely curious especially if he told her he was visiting his family and his kids like Shanann had left him and they would discuss while he was there and grandparents were involved all was good. I wouldn’t be surprised if he too blamed Shanann for why they were divorcing. My experience was I heard all kinds of bad things about the woman he was leaving and his mother told me this. Chris’s relationship with his dad was good in his eyes for a very sick family with Cindy the ringleader they all had their parts she made them play, and if she wasn’t happy I assume nobody was, nobody knows until it’s you in that situation. I get why people hate on Nicole so why would should say anything more now that he’s killed his wife and children and his mother is talking bad about Shannan for all she knows they could hurt her or anyone in the public who would blame her for Chris’s actions. I’ve read so many comments about her and thought this is all about lies and manipulation from Chris Watts and his family mother father and sister, it’s complex situation when there’s a borderline a somatic narcissist psychopath, a codependent, a covert narcissist in the same family. Who would want to be Nicole and experience says she’s a victim too like it or not that’s how they are. So no he wasn’t deleting Shanann he’s not the smart. He looked up what love feels like. What happened that night doesn’t make sense just like his phone records adding this photo, Removing phone contacts was something he did like everything else was to avoid who make him feel something he doesn’t want to. My ex is like this and these people do a number on everyone around them because life is black and white, I want this I don’t want that. So they will do Anything to Avoid Conflict, at all costs, silent treatment doesn’t work, they are taking the first exit to get away from accountability. Sadly I think it may have been just one question or accusation and he flew into a rage. His black and white thinking with no exit in the middle of the night that would have given him what he wanted worked in his twisted mind. So something small was perceived as a threat and conflict his reaction of rage ended in murder. He didn’t kill the children at the house, he put them in the front seat of the truck and likely didn’t say a word to them as he drove thinking only about himself and how he wanted a new life with Nicole and Shenann knowing anything about his plans got in his way so he had to get rid of anything that made him the bad guy who doesn’t do accountability. The fact his kids were alive then he killed them makes me wonder if he didn’t plan to kill them until Celeste and maybe Bella knew he was the one who Hurt mommy and they would tell on him so he had to get rid of them as his children were a threat. That one photo he sent and Shenann, the life sized doll on the couch. the way he wrapped it like a dead body in a sheet he used the mat from twister, and when she shared it on Facebook she captioned the photo “don’t know what to think about this” is telling. Someone who’s been abused psychologically starts to question their own.reality, sharing that photo may have been her way of getting feedback as confirmation she wasn’t losing her mind. This may sound silly or it was seen as irrelevant but knowing what it’s like I think she was trying to get someone to tell her that was scary and crazy. It sounds like most thought he was amazing. Movie tropes call this type of guy the nice guy, yet they’re not it’s a mask. Hope these points from experience help, there’s so much too say and this is the first time I’ve commented on this case trying not to go way overboard and make my thoughts confusing to anyone who may read this. I’m late to the information being discussed in the discovery.

[@abba1459]

SouthernCross I always wondered about the kids telling on him too & deciding they were a threat.

[@Lynn-nd9zm]

@@southerncross5360 wow.....so true!

[@patriciatreslove4449]

It is so sad he made her suffer all the time she was away, Nicole Kessinger is a wicked woman, she knew what she was doing.

[@leedoulman6027]

That’s for sure evil thing she is hell for you l feel

[@HeatherLynseyMusic]

@@leedoulman6027 He could’ve ghosted her, literally. Had his shit gone and papers to sign his rights over already signed. He had weeks to leave.

[@bearsmartdurango]

Yet 1/2 of Americans idolize someone who cheats on his wife with a porn star.

[@lp6196]

​@@HeatherLynseyMusicI've thought that many times. He couldn't get his 💩 packed and moved out he was too busy fudge packin Nk and dating her. It's funny to me she was sooo In love with him why didn't she offer her place up for him to move in? Can't use the kids as an excuse because we all know how their feelings and well being meant to them. Doesn't seem like she ever offered to pay for a meal either. She said she paid sometimes but I never saw any evidence of it. She was pushing him to move out and leave his family but not offering him her place. He's basically living there anyway. By the time it was for him to go out to NC he could have had everything moved out and talked to a divorce lawyer. Instead he was planning the m*rders of his wife and kids.

[@KimmiePatts]

If NK were to write a book I damn sure wouldn't buy it. It wouldn't be nothing but lies anyway.

[@lorrainewadsworth9019]

Everyone should pledge NOT to buy a book if she did ever write a book.

[@KimmiePatts]

@@lorrainewadsworth9019 for sure. Also unless she confesses to being a part of the murders what the hell would she write about? They were an item for only a few months. She gonna write about how to have anal sex with a mass murderer? What would she have to say that would be interesting? So she screwed a killer. Big deal. It's not like she's known him all his life. She needs to just lay low if she knows whats good for her with all the people who hate her so much.

[@tatyanamelnikoff9578]

@@lorrainewadsworth9019 i pledge never never to buy anything that skank nk puts out!!! and boycott the publisher!

[@MygirlsGJPB]

Nicole Atkinson should write a book, she was with Shanann on her last weekend and probably had many conversations about what was going on. I think that would be an interesting read.

[@carolynsmith9972]

I’d rather have “temporary “ blindness!!

[@dagmastr12]

Nicole would definitely have gone through the man's phone... She had no problems going in his marital home.

[@leedoulman6027]

Yep for sure

[@rachaelnelson4976]

Sick selfish side piece

[@leedoulman6027]

For sure she is sick evil thing she gets of at wrecking marriages vey sick thing

[@rachaelnelson4976]

@@leedoulman6027 Many people get off on it because laws aren’t against it and it’s not a crime but it’s a crime to God so he is the one that gets the final say

[@ritatorrez552]

@@leedoulman6027 i believe it's more sinister and dark than anyone knows. They did "dark " things in NK'S apartment..he said he will take it to his grave. What could be worse than the murders!?🤔between hisself mom, sister, and NK there was a lot of negative energy and even hate aimed towards Shanann. Then factor in rituals, intent, and a crystal discovered under the child's bed!? Something dark was able to manifest and take 4 precious lives from us. Vengeance is mine thus saith the lord God.

[@pslives4185]

The way CW reacted when he found out she was pregnant was very telling, you could just see underneath the surface he was thinking, “Ugh, this suuuuucks!”

[@CarmenPerez-kz6rw]

Didn’t seem obvious to me.

[@patcross9476]

Yes it did.

[@cryptosavy9716]

Yup, and shannan was annoyed with his reaction.

[@tonyallewellyn7304]

@@cryptosavy9716 I would’ve been too.

[@joerudnik9290]

What will I tell my girlfriend?!!🫣🤬😬

[@iamfaded1908]

I bet he googled how it feels when "someone says they love you" so he could write one of those corny ass love poem/notes. Its not easy to rhyme the world anal, ya know?

[@lorrainewadsworth9019]

Anal... Penal...

[@janeorr8583]

well theres banal...

[@katylouise5406]

🤣

[@runningfox9750]

I agree. Or so he'd know what FEELINGS to tell NK he "felt" upon them now saying the L word to one another.

[@shannon8315]

Oh my God, 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣! That's great, I can't think of anything that rhymes with anal. Maybe she knew the end game and was just helping him get ready for prison.

[@anayhiasmimi1409]

If he would have put that much time and effort into his marriage he wouldn't be in the spot he's in such a disgusting monster 😡😡😤

[@nikicollins5809]

Yalanda Gonzalez or in a divorce

[@Monster-ks2yx]

I dont think he wanted his marriage anymore. Divorce would have been a much better choice, but I think he hated shannon towards the end. I dont think saving that marriage was possible.

[@tauntasmom]

He wanted a divorce!

[@shelly-anntracykruger4088]

@TA A u right...seeing the content on his face and not freaking out that nikki isn't with him anymore doesnt faze him at all. His happy where he is. Where he would not be happy is on death row...this case should have gone to trial. The family didn't realize at the time he really needed that death sentence.

[@BuzzByte24]

He didn’t want to be in the marriage though, and make it clear to SW. so many people almost forcefully imply that he should have stayed and went to counseling when he clearly wanted at the least a separation. But per usual, Chris wants and needs were pushed aside and ignored

[@donnanoble6860]

You are so on point with your videos. I feel like I learn so much. It upsets me that he ignored Shananns calls so much! I think nk would keep him on the phone if she knew his wife was calling him! Thank you so much. Keep up the good work!

[@ZavGirl]

Thank you 😊

[@kimberlyjameson7236]

He is a sorry pos!!!

[@teresas8173]

Oh, that infuriated me. Ignoring Shananns call.... 🤬

[@ZeonEons]

That goes to show he was done with Shanann, she was nothing more than a hindrance to his happiness and future. He's a sick evil monster.

[@forpetessake3532]

donna Noble on point with what ? All she does is read stuff - sorta like snooping in someone’s diary actually - you call this talent? Doesn’t take much to impress you does it ?

[@elizabethlevine4263]

Even if Nicole writes a book, it’ll be about as honest as if Chris wrote one.

[@johnchurch82]

would be lies too, she lied to f..b.i.,c.b.i. and l.e

[@Nikki-jn3ud]

She's probably try to play victim too

[@kirsty7257]

@RGB 18 behave Nichol was far from a victim

[@tonyallewellyn7304]

@@kirsty7257 I agree

[@JohnWhitakerHRHardball]

“The Rusty Bucket”, what a romantic - sounds like a restaurant on SpongeBob

[@ronelllambert2040]

The Rusty Bucket...... a vivid image of NK!!!!! Big hole in it too!

[@PhantasmaAdoria]

It does lol

[@theresabenko2540]

@@ronelllambert2040 That's because she worked for an oil company that did the drilling.

[@bumblebee7982]

IKR, lol.

[@tonyallewellyn7304]

@@ronelllambert2040 good one lol 😝..nothing about this case is funny, I just had to laugh about your NK remark.

[@maryortega8060]

Thank you for all the information, I’m so into this case , broken heart 💔 .

[@BitsnPiecesDeMi]

There have been so many times I’ve wished I could’ve warned her, with all the videos of her sometimes I forget for a second she’s no longer with us. Almost as if she’s alive and I just want to reach out to her. Has anyone else felt this? Like she is so close but just out of reach...😔

[@tammysclips]

THat's exactly how I feel. Its so sad- especially when they released her last video coming home at 2 am. I wonder what really took place when she walked in. They're supposed to release some insight on march 7th but hes probably going to lie so who knows !!! 💔💔💔💔

[@BitsnPiecesDeMi]

Tammy Mills I’m hoping he’ll come clean or explain what he was thinking, but if we go by his demeanor from get go I don’t think he has the back bone, or guts to actually clarify anything. 🤞He surprises us.

[@runningfox9750]

I've felt this way too. We wish so harrrrrrd that she n the kids were still here. 🙁☹️😖

[@marthadwyer2856]

Liza yes . Many,many times. I guess what makes us forget she is deceased when watching her videos is how interesting and loving she was and her beautiful girls the three of them just captivated our hearts. RIP ANGELS OF LOVE😘💟✝️💫💫💫💫

[@marthadwyer2856]

Tammy Mills he'll definitely lie because he knows no truth or LOVE💟✝️💫

[@jellywellyfish1501]

You can tell something was seriously wrong in their relationship. How obsessive she was to hear from him tells you how distant they had become. You wouldn’t call your husband 12 times in an hour. Fair enough if he had the kids with him, but he didn’t.

[@christiner123]

I have been watching several of your videos on this case, for the past couple months. I absolutely love that you give your opinion, while talking about all the info. Keep up the great work. This case is so incredibly sad. I will never feel its done until nk is in jail. Hoping for justice. 💜

[@danab.1947]

I hate the way he calls her BOO🤮

[@teri1353]

SAME!!!!!! Ew its so disgusting!

[@NuckinFuts2215]

He called NK that too! Sick...

[@danab.1947]

Such a playa 😂😒

[@b52270]

Yea he called both of them that...usually when a man uses terms like boo or babe often, it's bc they don't want to use the actual names so as to not confuse diff women.

[@forpetessake3532]

Lilly Rose That’s a BLACK expression -

[@shaonjonesm2136]

She said in the cop interview “I didn’t know Shanann was pregnant” then when asked what happened in NC she said “Shanann said to Chris’ mum she would not be aloud to see the girls or the baby” - CAUGHT OUT she knew about the baby!!! Btw hi from the UK!

[@lorrainewadsworth9019]

Hi Shaon.. im also here in uk., i cant get my head round this case at all, its as if we personally know this family and we are grieving. Rip...

[@runningfox9750]

Nk s very first recorded interview audio only as she didn't know she was being recorded, she said shanann is pregnant. So then at the police station she says she didn't know. Well she lies.

[@Kimzielynn]

Oh wow Nice

[@truecrimewithcammy4768]

Shes supposed to be in jail

[@CoExist64]

Hi from Houston-good catch

[@jillpalmer7754]

I call bull - --- - on the apple not being able to retrieve all messages. crock of bull

[@sharonlewis7638]

You can delete your butt off, butt the carriers do have all of your phone data, call logs and times and tex messages and all content. It’s just quicker if they get it immediately, to lock him up. Nk sure didn’t want her business known, it creeped me out. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@chutzpah5603]

I cannot even imagine what he saw in NK. Seriously...

[@_VICK_]

He saw “meow meow mix”

[@BuzzByte24]

Sw was okay, besides her enormous forehead and horrible eyebrows ..

[@deborahdexter8571]

I know right , Shanann shined and was gorgeous and a good mom. I don't get it. Why take a step down.

[@manifestinggodess9500]

@@deborahdexter8571 for exactly that reason. He had to work on being a good father and husband while he had no such pressures with NK. Instead of be a better father or husband he wanted to live the bachelor life

[@laurajomcnaughton853]

@Joshua she was a home wrecking cow. Nothing nice about her. He had it all and gave it up for what?? And not even that he gave it up he MURDERED THEM!!

[@heathers3485]

clean eater- but morally corrupt to the greatest degree 🤢 so disgusting

[@SaltyD3plorable]

@@foursticks4548 😂🤣

[@b52270]

Lol good point...absolutely TRUE!!!!

[@tomsawyer2338]

Hitler was a vegetarian 🌱.

[@bealong8718]

clean eating to compensate for the disgusting soul that they are.

[@halffasthaiku7526]

I doubt he's "clean eating" in prison.

[@lorrainewadsworth9019]

But he IS, sadly his family arent.

[@downtownAmyBrown]

He is not. Google his commissary list. Full of cookies donuts.

[@runningfox9750]

Bologna!! Mac n cheese! Mystery meat.

[@ronduckman3970]

He needs to have a little oil with the mac and cheese......... He needs a can of oil put in the cell to look at all the time.......

[@bealong8718]

We cant be sure of that, but we know theres anal! hes just on the other end 😂😂😂

[@imjustkaren8600]

So glad I came across your channel. You make me feel like I'm hanging out with a bestie. Great insight too. :)

[@katylouise5406]

Just the saddest thing! She died feeling unloved and desperate and scared for her future.

[@ZavGirl]

I know it makes me so sad .. when I read these texts for the first time it just made me want to give her a big hug 🤗 and tell her to just stay with her parents and not to go back home with her..

[@katylouise5406]

Zav Girl if only we could turn the clock back and warn her. This case will stay with me forever. I never watch videos where it’s a person just talking and reading things through but I watched this until the end. Very interesting.

[@VintageRose75]

Katy Louise I know! I have wished for a time machine many, many times! I think we all watch everything, because it is so complex, and we are just trying to make sense of it all.

[@gabe-po9yi]

I believe she died looking into his rage- and hate-filled eyes, knowing he was killing her and, therefore, the baby. As caring and loving as she was as a mother, she was likely terrified about what would become of Bella and Cece.

[@leedoulman6027]

My god you are right there poor poor women she only wanted the best work hard look after kids keep beautiful home she loved her husband so much she only wanted the best she was such a hard worker and looking after everything family and friends l could not do what she could do what a beatiful women and mother and wife

[@gloriawilliams6036]

He was calling Vivant and messing with the alarms because he didn’t want her to know how much he was coming and going. Shannan probably got alerts on her phone too...

[@dianah.9718]

Thank you for putting this timeline together, very interesting!

[@angien7507]

I’m only halfway thru, but yes! Why in the world would he need to google how does it feel when someone says I love you 😳This man truly has no feelings.

[@lorrainewadsworth9019]

Thats how he was able to slaughter his family because he had never loved anybody but his mother...

[@runningfox9750]

@@lorrainewadsworth9019 He don't love, anyone. He can't . Physically can't. He has no emotional capability. Sociopath.

[@sdidora5]

It sux to know that he was born broken

[@tonyallewellyn7304]

Yeah, CW is a blank slate.

[@amberdean374]

Chris Watts is a classic narcissist!! He only cares about Chris. He has no other thoughts or feelings about anything than himself. He probably thought he could kill his family and just talk his way out of it. He thought he was smarter than everyone else. The way he brought out her wedding ring when we thought she was missing just tells it all. He said to the police officer she takes her ring off when she dyes her hair (a plant to make people think she’s changed her appearance and took off). Ugh it’s just so messed up Shanann, Bella, Celeste, and Niko had to die for his disgusting ego!! Rip beautiful angels ❤️

[@bonniearmstrong4008]

Yeah, he was deleting Shannans texts so NK wouldn't find them or find out he was really playing both of them. Damn, he makes my blood boil..sick POS

[@Bzzzzzzzz535]

Bonnie Armstrong exactly that bastard was playing both of them.

[@janeorr8583]

yep he was the two timer..not the women

[@forpetessake3532]

Bonnie Armstrong well that’s nothing new under the sun -

[@forpetessake3532]

Jane Orr been done a beZILLION Times and will be done a beZILLION Times more...

[@Alesia411]

Don't worry, Karma will come back around, and probably sooner than we think, Chris Watts is most hated man in America right now and I'm sure there's a huge bounty on his head in prison

[@ashandemi]

He said NK would use his phone to check his macros, check his health app and all that. That’s why he deleted all the texts to Shan’ann.

[@abcdemivvliet3359]

Still he said to Shan'ann he was sorry and loved her. It makes me cry Shan'ann was waiting for his answers..... so sad 😢

[@kayeel7587]

TA A It was not proven that he’s bisexual or gay. That was actually debunked.

[@leedoulman6027]

Yes it is so so sad l am crying hearing this evil bastards

[@starrynight2600]

I read or heard somewhere that he had turned his WiFi off in the house so Shanann’s phone wouldn’t ping when got home. I think he was trying to also disconnect areas of the house from vivent because he didn’t want Shanann to see his girlfriend in the house. Because the security sends alerts to their phones.

[@rebelred5526]

When you were brainstorming the various possibilities of what he meant by “running is a way to free it all” ....”free all the pent up rage?”

[@janeorr8583]

running is a way to free it all and im guessing ol shanann got mighty boring after a while...dont you think

[@rebelred5526]

Jane Orr Personally, I think Shan’ann seemed like an absolute riot, and I feel quite cheated out of the chance to ever meet her. From what I can tell she was a brilliant mix of intelligence, grace, humility, grit, and quirkiness. Her openness, warmth and joy in sharing even the seemingly mundane moments of everyday life with anyone who would watch, now reveals her wisdom - treasure the little things. And, thank God she did, for her life was so cruelly cut short. However, I do think in her short time here on earth she may well have lived and dreamed more than any one I know. I would so love to see a children’s author write a book series about two little angels 👼 or fairies 🧚‍♂️ , one who is all sass, Cecelia and another, so cautious and gentile, Bella, that help other children overcome their fears or challenges. Maybe, the two little ones, Cecelia and Bella, have very different views of how to help and they come to learn that the perfect answer is somewhere in between, in compromise, and valuing each other’s ideas and talents. I don’t know, maybe people will think that is daft, but it just hits me in the gut, that Shan’ann got robbed of those dreams for her girls futures too.

[@Nikki-jn3ud]

@@rebelred5526 i like the way you talk! Are you British by any chance?

[@dropkick1301]

Think he was feeling lust not love and that’s why he didn’t recognise it

[@ZavGirl]

👍 yep

[@stephaniehunter3251]

Good thinking

[@stephaniehunter3251]

@Bmx Boy yes wish like hell .. she would've JUST stayed with her mom and dad....,😓😢

[@barbarahughes8041]

He never new what love is before Shannon.

[@mariavilafadhel4330]

I know your post is 3 years old but I agree with you 💯. Love would never drive anyone to do something so dark . True love inspires us to be better not evil. I think he was obsessed with the way she made him feel .

[@morganhenry5845]

They really said “creepy giggle” lol

[@vickipassero2672]

I think he took pics of the basement to show nk where he sleeps and spends his time 3 different angles would show the bed where he sleeps another angle would show his weights and probably the fridge to convince her he pretty much stays down there so he doesnt have to intreract with shanann. Nk probably was on him asking him are you sure your not sleeping with the wife lol i can here nks whiney voice now lol

[@runningfox9750]

And when the cops walk thru it looks like that bed hasn't been slept in since two or three years ago when Shananns folks stayed down there. There's dust n a dead wasp on the bed covers. UGH

[@LoveMeLikeMusic7]

Did you see the Breaking news update? CW apparently gave up more information on the deaths of his family. They said details to be released on March 7th.

[@tammysclips]

I hope hes honest it'll prob be more lies he jas had months to make up a story!!

[@debbiebrister3461]

CW admitted to being with NK all of July. He even stated that NK was jealous of him talking to his wife. Doesn't sound like she was pushing him to make his marriage work to me! No wonder he wouldn't answer Sannann's phone calls!

[@aliciahermansen6319]

She is lying. If she really wanted him to make things work with Shanann why was she sending nude pics and looking for wedding dresses. Lies lies lies!

[@theresabenko2540]

@@aliciahermansen6319 Real classy. Sending nude pictures to a married guy. Only seeing him for a couple months. How many other guys have nude pictures of her? I don't think cw was the first. She may already on her next (married) victim.

[@rachaelnelson4976]

@@theresabenko2540 Men are visually stimulated That’s how it works for them All her actions was selfish His was too

[@theresabenko2540]

@@rachaelnelson4976 Oh, yes. I totally agree.

[@HeatherLynseyMusic]

And that she pouted SHE WOULD ALWAYS BE SECOND TO HER

[@ElizabethF2222]

Poor little Dieter. He must have seen the whole thing!!

[@ZavGirl]

I know I was thinking the same thing..if only dogs could talk

[@aliciahermansen6319]

I’m glad he’s with Shanann’s parents

[@ElizabethF2222]

@@aliciahermansen6319 He's actually with Frankie, Jr., Shannan's brother. He's posted a few videos of Deiter playing with Frankie's other dogs. He seems very happy and healthy now.

[@pinkcloud79]

I think NK had to have known about Shanann Watts being pregnant. How could she possibly not have known this?!? since it was later found out that NK had searched online for Shannan Watts? 🤔

[@teresas8173]

Melby ....she knew about the pregnancy via her google searches, as you stated. Why the detectives did not question her about her searches and ask her how it was then possible she did not know about Shannans pregnancy I will never understand.

[@TheZen900]

Both CW and NK make Jodi Arias look honest. Almost everything they say is a lie.

[@ZeonEons]

@@teresas8173 because it didn't matter. They could care less if she knew or not. They ruled her out as a suspect and certainly throughout the process. All that mattered was she was not physically or verbally saying to CW's go kill your family, which they found no evidence of when conducting the investigations. She was there as a character witness. And if a trial would have happened, she'd be able to testify.

[@Alesia411]

0h NK aka" Bob The Builder" That's who she sounds like LOL, She knew so much more than she lead on. I think she is a master at bullshitting men, Cops . Doesn't seem like her first rodeo, her and Christian love to play themselves up and that's the only time you see any kind of piping engineering center voice when you're talkin about themselves and how great they are in their bodies and how good they're eating, after Chris has been in prison for a while he's going to get a clue and he's going to ride her out because he's sitting behind bars and she's doing whatever she's doing by sitting on a beach in Mexico or something with her dad, to be quite honest I am tired of hearing about how much they are victims and see me watch to how much she's a victim, when the real victims are scheana and her babies and she man's very loving caring family and Mister Dieter

[@TheZen900]

@@Alesia411 Alecia there is something rotten in Denmark. Why were there two graves for Shannan? Why did Chris leave the bedsheet in plain view? Why does Shanann's mom mispronounce Shanann's name? I suspect this is a hoax. Why no trial? Why almost nobody attended the hearing?

[@carolinacreekfox4703]

Gosh I know it's sounds crazy but just knowing they were in Myrtle Beach makes me wish I could go back in time and see them there and meet them and make some kind of difference in this situation. I'm not far from there and it's a wonderful place for a vacation. I recently watched the girls first visit to the beach and had mixed emotions. Was so sweet and special that Shanann shared them with the world and was so good seeing them having such a good time. Realizing they were that close, made me feel so emotional tho. This case has affected me in ways that I can never explain. Thanks again for reading all this and helping clear things up that we may not have caught reading it ourselves. The interviews with NK have never made much sense to me and how easy they went on her during all of this but I'm sure there's so much more to the story and we may never know the real truth. Thanks again for all your hard work and love and dedication you have for the Rzucek family 💕 Much love, Christy 💛

[@Liezzz]

You are really to the point, love your channel, greetings fr the Netherlands

[@ZavGirl]

Thank you 💜Greeting From The US ..it’s so great to have you here Lis 💗

[@pasadenacalifornia1316]

All baby killers have a Lee as middle name Scott Lee Peterson Christopher Lee Watts Nicole Lee Kessinger

[@olivia40201]

I have Lee for a middle name and my dad dose to but we are not baby killers!!

[@lisatagliabue6395]

I’m so sick over this story! I dont know where I was in 2018, I never knew this was going on at the time. I just stumbled upon it on KZbin and now I’m hooked, like all of you!

[@lp6196]

I remember it but didn't really know the details. I've been on you tube for going on 2 weeks watching everything. I'm thinking I might need to get therapy myself. I know my husband has to wonder about me. I've tried to watch stuff when he's not around but I haven't been too successful. What is it about this case that takes a hold of you and you can't turn it off? I remember when Susan Smith did what she did to her sweet boys and maybe it was because with social media and Internet wasn't a thing back then or my access wasn't more than the local news. My twins were small and I remember her being interviewed and me telling my brother she was guilty. It was similar to Watts sermon on the porch. I never believed her story , especially a mother of small children myself.

[@destinykorena8786]

please keep doing these videos about the wayys this story never gets old

[@realcanadiangirl64]

Very interesting. You're one of the very few channels I haven't unsubscribed from who's still posting about this case. Thanks for keeping it classy 💙

[@Sarah8561]

I love your personality, you're so funny even when you're not trying lol

[@ZavGirl]

Aww thanks so much😘reading your comment just made me smile

[@forpetessake3532]

Sarah Wilkens not in the least

[@whistlingdixie502]

Sarah Wilkens I know right like the video she used on fireman lift on how people lift people up and she interrupted video by saying ‘ sorry only video I could find ‘ it was of a guy lifting a girl up and girl is kicking her feet 😂 I was eating at a restaurant and spit my coke out cause it caught me by surprise I didn’t expect to laugh ! She wasn’t trying to be funny but it came out that way or time she kept doing videos with that same shirt 😂💯

[@leedoulman6027]

Yes you are right

[@Mousidy]

Appreciate your read-thru’s and the info you gather to post your updates on this very disheartening case. You are enjoyable & personable to listen to with realistic reactions to the content. Thank you for walking us thru this case that has touched many people.

[@lolaislounging]

He said in his interviews with detectives that he was at NK house almost the whole time his wife was gone

[@leedoulman6027]

Please help me did detectives ask watts why did you not just leave her

[@whodat7084]

Kind of. He just said once he made his mind up, the rest was history. He said he was possessed and it was like something “made” him do it.

[@CMB-zu6rr]

@@leedoulman6027I think they did allude to that, and he went to his old trusty “I don’t know what I was thinking, or this wouldn’t have happened.”

[@chutzpah5603]

Why would you think NK was speaking the truth... ever? She told the officers just what she wanted them to believe.

[@leedoulman6027]

Yep

[@tonyallewellyn7304]

Exactly

[@swag51802]

She was so worried about him being with his family .... That’s why she kept sending pictures!

[@wms72]

Shannan said, "You've made me feel like complete shit these past few weeks." CW was getting narcissistic supply by doing this. That's why he HAD to tell her he didn't love her face to face, not on text. He HAD to see her cry.

[@RosemaryDrone-zy2eh]

Remember how he kept saying she had mascara running down her face? That must have been so satisfying!

[@Gardenbrains]

Man... Chris is the worst.

[@marishahes8412]

I was with a covert narcissist I remember calling and no answer and other women. Thank god I got away

[@destinyricketts7713]

Nicole also stated to Chris that she never wanted a man with kids. She wanted a man to have kids with her. I firmly believe that's why he killed his girls. It's all very sickening and I've probably watched damn near every video on this case. Nichole was willing having an affair with him. She also told him there towards the end "go home and fix your family" ohhh she definitely knew good damn and well he was married. I think she knows more than what she led police to believe. She also factory reset her phone prior to turning her phone into them.

[@runningfox9750]

"you need to FIX THIS" was her line. Yeah she egged him on to do it. Or to leave them

[@leedoulman6027]

Please god help us break this case l no nk and jimmy is involved and l think nks dad no s about this because he is close to her nk l mean that’s why he was in the interview room to make sure she is careful with her answerswhat do you think

[@mariavilafadhel4330]

I don't know if she had anything to do with the murders but it blows my mind the lazy police work as far as NK goes. She deleted messages knowing there's a murder investigation so why was she not charged with obstruction of justice ?

[@stephanierose9577]

I absolutely LOVE your channel! I just love your personality❤️😉 and I love that we are still talking about this case- I find it very interesting, but extremely sad for the loss of 4 lives😔

[@ZavGirl]

Thank you 😊

[@stephanierose9577]

Zav Girl ❤️😉🥰

[@stephanierose9577]

Zav Girl keep these great videos coming! I check every morning to see if you uploaded!

[@mayannrivera1682]

I follow this case I hope Justice Will Prevail

[@tonyallewellyn7304]

May Ann Rivera ...I agree..NK definitely should be investigated to the fullest extent including a polygraph test

[@Daily-Internet-Diary]

Justice has already came dumbass

[@dariahughes5564]

Justice did hun

[@christinehunt4841]

@@Daily-Internet-Diary well who knows as soon as Chris's confessed, boom that was that as per the DA

[@adendasabaulan454]

Me too I follow this case I won’t give up on following this case until the truth shall prevail and Nk must be investigated so soon

[@gailwilson6816]

Hi from New Zealand - I love your videos. The content is interesting and you have great insights. I also just love listening to your voice!

[@ZavGirl]

Awesome, thank you!🙂

[@stainlesssteel9761]

With the “new” information coming to the light, this video is so important ! Thank you for your hard work 🌺📖🌳

[@AngelfromGenX]

One huge fact that gets in the way of Chris Watts being a narcissist is he would have never left a $80k job for a $40k job and he would have never let even his wife control finances or let her have full spending privileges without his approval. He's a massive asshole for sure but the way he lived his life and was always told what to do is completely against any kind of narcissism. He just wanted to start over in life when he found a new woman and was so unhappy and in massive debt.

[@AellaWW]

I don’t think it was premeditated either. I wish they would study and test him more to know what he thought and felt at that time

[@BuzzByte24]

I totally agree. Chris doesn’t have narcissistic qualities. Shanann did. I think Chris was a battered husband. He thought killing off his family vs kicking shanann to the curb was the best choice which says a lot about how much he feared her.

[@vickipassero2672]

It would rend to make you wonder when shanann was in sc and calling chris about vivint mabee he di something to shut it down so he could bring nk into the house.

[@teresas8173]

vicki passero , I heard, or read....there’s so much info out there, it’s easy to forget where you read or heard something! that CW told Shannan that a woman was coming by the house to help him install and show him how to use a fitness app of some sort ( this woman was of course NK and it was actually the secret calculator she helped him install). I can’t recall what he told Shanann in regards to where this friendly, helpful woman was from..... 🙄 And the second time NK was there, I haven’t heard anything about that in regards to Shanann knowing about it.

[@ciaobella9310]

O heard CW disapled it himself...

[@tatyanamelnikoff9578]

@@teresas8173 the family home is not a whore house. nk had no business going into shannan's home. but of course, it's nothing nk can take and steal, jealous p.o.s. that she is. geeez, cw is weeeeeak! why didn't he do what all the other married guys did to nk--yeah, she's just a piece. meat. he's idiotic. she belongs in the back alley.

[@tammyduke4213]

NK knee exactly what she was doing! I believe she pushed him to get rid of Shanann or she was going to date others. She knew he would do something!

[@janeorr8583]

no tammy

[@tammyduke4213]

Jane Orr what do you mean?

[@lynnfrazier7358]

She means even if she did "push" him to make a decision that by any means does not mean she thought he would butcher his ENTIRE family. That's just not so. If I'm not mistaken Chris WAS THE MARRIED MAN (not NK) whom made the vows to Shanann and whom fathered his little girls and unborn son whom therefore was there to protect them not MURDER THEM IN COLD BLOOD AND DUMP THEM LIKE TRASH... The only LOGICAL thing to have done was to divorce YET we know he was not making ANY STEPS in that direction. WHY?? Because he never planned on divorce. He planned on them dead. He was to busy SETTING UP his children's LIFE SIZE BARBIE DOLL like it was DEAD and then subsequently 3 DAYS LATER making it happen in real life to his LIVE CHILDREN, WIFE AND UNBORN SON. YES, THEY WERE LOADED UP COVERED IN SHEETS JUST LIKE THE BARBIE DOLL 3 DAYS AFTER he texted this picture to Shanann CLAIMING the children did it... YEA RIGHT. He was to busy lying to his neighbor about his truck being "robbed" of tools so he could check out the camera, the footage and view that he already knew him to have. He was TO BUSY disarming his alarm system while Shanann was gone until she went off and forced him to make the company "fix it" because he was the one at the house. He was TO BUSY causing the convenient LEAK at the distant and diluted CERVI 319 to ensure he could SHOVE HIS DEAD LITTLE GIRLS THEOUGH THE HATCHETS AND WATCH THEM SPLASH AND CORRODE IN CORROSIVE OIL. He then was to busy texting around all weekend to ensure his co workers would NOT be at Cervi 319 because he was the over achiever at work right? All the while, playing games with Shanann during his entire relationship with her. Giver her a little and then taking it back. Gas lighting and confusing the hell out of her causing so much grief before he brutally murders her. I would go so far as to even say he possibly was even poisoning her prior but that's a whole other story for me to get into.. okay. He is ignoring calls and then being a dick and then turning around playing bullshit with her calling her honey and fucking boo up until literally the day he slaughtered her. I could go on an on literally but would never finish. Do you doubt that he was not also lying to NK downplaying their marriage from the very beginning. Well, I would beg to differ whether he truly downplayed it but he literally downplayed his true issues to Shanann and therefore also NK. Yes, many women that get involved with married men eventually or ultimately give the married man and ultimatum to choose to stay married or they will move on. This is hardly the first man that has murdered his wife or pregnant wife when the mistress gave an ultimatum. One instance, was a man married to his wife for over 15 yrs. He bought a charter boat and worked on the water. He became involved with another woman yet was playing them both. The mistress finally gave him an ultimatum and literally to the date that she said he had until (which was the date her kid started back school) he murdered his wife by drowning and shooting her and then sinking her body into the ocean with anchors. Unlucky for him, a diver found her... Anyhoe, in that circumstance the mistress was actually proven to be innocent in the entire situation besides the fact that she has never forgiven herself nor blamed her own self for ever giving him that ultimatum yet never in her right mind did she think (whi really would) think he would actually murder her. And his wife's and his children either were grown or they didnt even have any so really WHAT amount if baggage did he really have by just going through a divorce. I mean cmon. He would rather just murder her than have a fucking divorce. I'm not saying NK was innocent in the fact that she dated a married man, nor the fact that she may have envied Shanann and possibly even disliked the fact he already had children YET NONE of that makes her guilty of committing murder or assisting in murder. There is no proof of her being involved honestly so we cannot say that she was responsible. The only thing she is guilty if is deleting messages and absconding around the depth and detail of their relationship and this could very well be related to her being scared to death for being involved with the piece of the piece of shit. Yet,through all this NK was the one that reported to the police first. Had she really been guilty I think CW would have told in relevant detail her involvement especially now that he is on the "inside" while she wasnt and the fact she ultimately "abandoned" him after... Anyhow, no amount if involvement could have driven with NUT to commit this atrocity on his ENTIRE FAMILY. NO AMIUNT WHATSOEVER. Had she not been there it would have been someone else that he would have done it. Period.

[@michelesmith4775]

@@lynnfrazier7358 NK only went to cops after she was told that someone at work gave cops all emails of her and CW.So she didn't go to cops first nor good intent.

[@aliciahermansen6319]

I agree

[@angelanetherton8240]

Amber Fry was a totally different situation than that hoe. Amber Fry did not know dude was married and when she found out she helped police. Nicole did know he was married and had kids and didn’t care and never has helped police. Wouldn’t do he a bit of good to write a book I’d never buy it nor read it. Anyone that does is sick as her and it’s like slapping Shannann and her daughters and unborn son in the face.. Damn book needs burned!!

[@tauntasmom]

I find what CW did to his family heinous, then again most of the hate-filled comments are just as bad, two wrongs do not make a right....hate if hate no matter how you slice it,

[@tonyallewellyn7304]

@@tauntasmom it seems like you take up for CW a lot in these comments 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@tonyallewellyn7304]

@@tauntasmom Also..there’s a huge difference between people commenting their opinions about CW on KZbin and being a narcissistic coward who murdered your pregnant wife and two little girls.

[@mrs.cavalier3705]

Wow... I get so much insight into the lead-up of the story with these videos. Great job!

[@catblum8968]

Wow so the detectives already knew he shot those sunflower photos for kessinger? I still don’t understand why they did not investigate her more?

[@tauntasmom]

if he sent her photos of sunflowers then he sent her photos of sunflowers it proves nothing.

[@tonyallewellyn7304]

@Cat Blum.. I don’t understand why they didn’t either.

[@bluemoonspring8125]

Elvis on the wall? New subbie now🇿🇦👍👍👍

[@adarz676]

You're right!. I listened to one of the NK interviews. She absolutely says, "I didn't like the menu at the 1st restaurant and so we went to another place."

[@kimberly25christinesmith72]

I think the pics of the basement were for the realtor because after the murders she asks if the basement is finished yet.

[@tishsmith3843]

Shanann knew something was wrong! Thank you for the video. New sub. God bless 🙏

[@ZavGirl]

Your welcome 💖thank you for watching..I appreciate your support..God Bless You 💕

[@tishsmith3843]

@@ZavGirl , very rare to chat with a kind person these days! Thank you!!! God bless you also!! Much appreciated for the reply!!!

[@runningfox9750]

Explains why she barely posted to Facebook in July. Because she was a Real person and couldn't fake a happy healthy sense of being / happy family to effectively sell Thrive or keep her friends convinced she was ok.

[@tishsmith3843]

@@runningfox9750 , you are right!!!!

[@mallorywilliams3422]

The main screen for the security has a camera if you watch other videos. Her dad said he saw CW carry them out. I think the warrant with the security system gave them enough information to make him plead guilty but it seems that part is being kept private. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@dogmomma4019]

I think the security system in their home definitely caught the aftermath of the murders if not the actual murders

[@betsbotha192]

Shan-ann asked him to pack the girl's backpacks for school. Where were those bags during the investigation. They were never packed. He knew they would not need it.

[@tonyallewellyn7304]

Exactly

[@heidicheckettswest1091]

I think he deleted Shannann's messages because they highlighted the nature of their marriage and would have raised suspicions

[@k.ohalloran8758]

Same

[@carolbigley5661]

Love your posts! Totaling revealing! I can hardly wait for March 7, 2019 👀

[@ZavGirl]

I know me too thank you

[@stephanePerras69]

I love your Elvis art wall and appeciate your channel regarding beautiful Shanann .

[@bethanyscobbie1037]

This is hearbreaking .. how low and hurt, confused shanann must have felt .. the fact she was spotting and could have miscarried from all the stress.. ..the missed calls.. You know people will say why didn't she just leave .. but here the thing from the years of experience I have professionally ; I totally understand why she wanted it to work .. she loved him .. she loved the kids.. she got a baby in her tummy and she believes in marriage . She believes that you work through this. And all those words of endearment that meant nothing .. to him. Zav incredible reading there's so much to this case . . Thank you Will wait patiently for next post.

[@akaginny7516]

Didn't he also kind of lead her to believe he wanted to make it work? She was still holding out hope, because he was misleading her. Plus the change happened so suddenly it seems. So sad

[@bethanyscobbie1037]

@@akaginny7516 he did you are quite right .. as I said those terms of endearments they meant nothing to him .. but he also pushed and pulled her emotionally that's a common psychology ploy tool; the push n pull . I was meaning some people .. not you or I not even many here .. but I've had said to me why didn't she leave . Like it's that easy .. But it's never that easy when you've built so much .. I just wish she never went home .

[@akaginny7516]

@@bethanyscobbie1037 I agree 100%. It is so easy to say "just leave"..but it isn't always black and white. You don't know unless you or someone you love is in a similar situation. So sad

[@bethanyscobbie1037]

@@akaginny7516 gee I just got a bashing on a channel for pointing out bella injuries were not as they classified minor . I said I'm medical.. I am dual trained nurse though that term maybe old fashioned now . I don't know if you think they are ? Am I of base here .. I certainly don't see how biting through her tongue lip and gum is minor, when she fighting for her life . They were also bashing another channel I don't watch him very much .. love here and mommyramblings. But because I said he has never victim shamed shanann and maybe he has made mistakes even Dr Phil did saying chris broke the girls hips when he didn't.. that people can make mistakes. They started attacking me .. I thought I'd ask; your pretty on the ball. would you say bella injuries were minor was I being oversensitive ?

[@akaginny7516]

Someone gave me a hard time for saying it was odd that she was still wearing her bra. I do not know very many women that sleep in an underwire bra. I agree with you 100% that her injuries were not minor. That baby fought for her life as she struggled to breathe. I don't like thinking about it because I get a visual

[@annemarie9992]

You did a great job! And you're pleasant to listen too. I like how you bring us the facts, without playing KZbin psychiatrist, like the rest of these annoying KZbin podcasts. I also like how You allow us, ( the viewer) to draw our own opinions and conclusions.

[@brandx1020]

I would like to see these videos on his phone

[@tina-kl5oq]

You are doing great!! Channel is growing FAST! I absolutely LOVE that ELVIS picture on your wall!!!!

[@jenacook8144]

It makes you wish that she stayed at her parents house on that trip and filed for divorce. Her and her beautiful kids would still be alive😢

[@psarahgalarneau]

I’m listening to this again, and I notice that they have all the times his phone connects to WiFi routers, but it never says when he connects to NK’s WiFi router. I wonder if that was left out for a reason.

[@lynnfrazier7358]

What's so ironic is literally days before they are all murdered she is speaking of having to worry about family members harming and possibly killing her children... and then literally at the hands of their own father he murders them all. I literally just wonder if she was desperately fighting off really bad feelings about what was to come of them. I think she completely sensed it but fought those feelings off and also would never want to admit that's what she might have been thinking deep down....

[@jennwag2003]

Exactly intuition she sensed something bad was about to happen. Always trust your gut instinct it's always right. If I ever have a bad feeling about anything I don't do it I always trust my instincts it's saved my life a few times. May she and her beautiful children rest in peace.

[@mtm00]

Hearing dear Shan'ann be so rational and loving makes him even more of a monster than he already is. I am enjoying how you deliver the information in your videos immensely, Zav Girl. Many thanks for your commitment and effort.

[@eej1983able]

Shanann was feeling so helpless. Her texts broke my heart

[@tonyallewellyn7304]

I know, mine too 🥺 He made the last weeks of her life horrible.

[@jumpityjump3]

Girl you are a pioneer concerning this case. You knew your stuff from the very beginning! Please write a book! Thank you for giving all 4 precious lives a voice after Chris took their voices (in such a heartbreakingly cruel fashion.)

[@brandx1020]

Sorry to keep posting lol. Every time you say he searched something, I stop the video and look it up to see what it is.

[@rebeccahahn4954]

Sound like Chris was calling the alarm company and deactivated the Alarm so Shanann would not get alarms of his coming and going. He cannot have he knowing he doesn’t go home at night.

[@ZavGirl]

Yep 👍 that’s what I was thinking too 😃

[@youtubeplayer8173]

Also why he parked Shanann car on the street while she was away...so it would not be detected coming and going sketchy hours of him out w/NK by the alerts that would be sent to her phone had he pulled it in and out the driveway/garage over that period of time... he is not as stupid as ppl think he is. He had so many planned (premeditated) covers to carry out all his intentions...even though it wasn't enough in the end..the lengths he went are farther and more thought out then we know.. not adding up to the bs "I just snapped" excuse..ABSOLUTELY NOT...he tried to control alot of things(silently)...succeeded on many...but couldn't control NA from caring so much amongst other critical interventions that made sure he would not get away with it all...

[@tinab1538]

She was ignorant in the sense that she “thought” he would never cheat on her. All the signs were there and she ignored them. Sleeping in the basement - not having sex, ignoring her, working out.. ect. Either she knew and didn’t care, because saving face to her Facebook thrive family was more important or she was just too conceded to think she could ever be cheated on. She said it in a text - if he’s cheating then it’s “fucken goodbye” .. had she just stopped for a minute and put time into her relationship in person not through text and while out of town she would have found out about the affair and left with her kids.

[@HeatherLynseyMusic]

@@tinab1538 She was out of town so the children could see both sides of their family. His parents and her parents, he couldn’t take time off work which is fine. Six weeks is a long time. While she was trying to keep his mother from feeding their child something that would kill her, Chris was cheating on her and giving her JUST enough to justify staying because it was that out of the blue. Even Chris said if he hadn’t met NK, he probably wouldn’t have done it. We all know he would’ve but. Just another view, I don’t believe in the “why didn’t she just leave”‘, especially with this much evidence of manipulation.

[@tonyallewellyn7304]

@@youtubeplayer8173 Right, he didn’t snap it was 100% premeditated.

[@jackofall3381]

Thanx I wanted to read all this but it's much better to listen. Good job

[@zionriccidelfin5576]

Those deleted text messages would probably put nk in jail!...lol

[@T_jaxx]

You are one of my fav channels! I put you on when I’m cooking or cleaning or in my car! Fascinating now with crimes the electronic trail that people leave. It’s like technology bread crumbs that lead investigators where they need to go. Thanks for all you do!

[@ZavGirl]

Thanks so much Tracy

[@sharonrudy470]

Love your videos!!!! I enjoy listening to you, you are very sweet and informative!!!! While listening and when Shannan was having thoughts about a possible affair, I think, I would have gone back to Colorado so fast to see and try and catch the POS in action. God love her and her babies.

[@Msheavenlyconnection]

I totally agree with you. Too bad there didn't really seem enough time for her to catch him in anything...days it all took place from the time he dated NK to the early morning of hours of Augest 13th 2018 Shanann never had enough time to catch him.

[@Bzzzzzzzz535]

Sandra Bass maybe hire someone to follow him ???

[@ZavGirl]

Thanks Sharon 😘

[@domoniquemackenzie5044]

I wonder if they switched restaurants because they saw someone that could’ve outed them.

[@karenamb2264]

Just shows how selfish he is and still is.

[@kacim6918]

I thoroughly enjoy your discussions on this case. I follow a few others who are still covering this story and your content seems to be the most informative and unbiased. Just know your work IS appreciated! 😁 It is still so very confusing.. & I have developed a few theories of my own; the main one being when NK told detectives that he used 2 of those weight loss/energy patches every day, instead of one, as recommended. I really think those thrive products may have affected the chemical levels in his brain. These MLM Diet products are NOT FDA approved! I personally think it’s worth looking into and could open up a real conversation about these products that aren’t held to any health/food standards. It’s the only logical explanation I have, mainly because I really can’t fathom someone just randomly snapping like that.

[@evamadelene]

Your comment made me think of steroids, they are known to cause anger and rage in people.

[@annieoakley685]

The Toxicity I agree with you, however, if you look at the pictures of the Leval parties, a lot of men were wearing two patches as well and none of them wipe their family off the face of earth..

[@tanjabuchholz5314]

He didn't "snap". He's a covert narcissist; his 'nice guy' persona was a complete lie. The REAL him is a guy who decides to kill his wife and children so he can start a new life and be free of them

[@evamadelene]

@@tanjabuchholz5314 I totally agree with you. One that has figured that out is the woman with Live Abuse Free KZbin channel.

[@janeorr8583]

thrive was making him out of balance...her too

[@pommiebears]

You’re a sweetheart. I don’t write things like that often. I’m English, but I live in Australia. My husband is an Aussie....what can you do? Lol. We have catastrophic Bush fires here at the moment. Over a hundred homes lost, wildlife dead, and people too. It’s not a good time for Australia in NSW, and Queensland. I’m watching your videos for some normality. To feel the world outside. Yes, this case is devastating. But, it’s good to see a now familiar face. I like Kimberley too. She’s nice. Don’t know if you’ve watched her channel. Thanks for keeping me company. And, all the likeminded people in the comments section too. I need this atm. 💕

[@nachogirl35]

It’s not strange at all, he’s a narcissist, he doesn’t know how to love or how it feels, so that’s why he had to look it up

[@susanjenkins5143]

Good job on this video presentation. I appreciate your simple, honest style in tackling the complicated details in this devastating case.

[@ZavGirl]

Thank you 😊 I appreciate that .

[@abcdemivvliet3359]

I love watching your channel. ITS clear and to the point. It sounded like he didn't want to tell the truth to Shan'ann and was in the claws of NK. He made a big mess and finally killed his family. So sad. NK called CW all the time and he called her once and that was for returning her call. Ps love Elvis.

[@bealong8718]

Zav he had a Vivent in the garage, that could "hear", although he had switched the visual aspect off. This is speculative, but the officers that took data from CWs Vivent in the garage, had alluded to him that they "heard" what his "Vivent heard" and that they could prosecute on that alone. Then they left him in the room for nearly 2 hours.... when they returned, he asked for his dad. That was when he began the confession process, perhaps because of the pressure of knowing that "recording" exists. So whatever was on that, has never been publicly released, was enough to send him to a zone of confession. Hmmm.

[@CMB-zu6rr]

They alluded to Alexa recording distress not Vivint.

[@carolbell8008]

I did the math and NK sent him nine thousand nude photos, while telling him to “go work on your marriage and family “. 🥺😢

[@saralotti7174]

That sounds more like nine thousand documents of corporate sabotage than a love affair to me IMo

[@mstubeornottube]

New backdrop. Thank you for having a channel that looks at all sides realistically. A bit tired of channels where people only want to hear tributes or condemnations.

[@ZavGirl]

Your welcome JC P 💕thank you for being here, it means a lot