Shane Dawson's New Podcast Is Unhinged

[@iNabber]

guys obviously i'm not speaking about all millennials in this, i didn't think i really needed to clarify that considering there are millions 😭 but yea obviously i'm only speaking about a select few

[@emy1of418]

I think just a few us felt attacked as millennials make up such a vast group. For instance as a younger millennial I honestly had never heard of Shanes old stuff prior to his docu-series. I agree though that we are the group he is definitely aiming this at. 🙂 And that we 100% LOVE podcasts 🤣 although I think that's partly as people start having families and demanding jobs the time to watch videos is limited. Hope your recovery is going well ❤️ Don't worry about us, I think your fanbase know you'd never mean to offend us! 😊

[@heylookitsselena888]

It's the predominantly straight, neurotypical, disney adult, hogwarts house in their bios, buzzfeed millennial crowd! The still in high school mentally but older than their peers millennials 🥲 Disgusting

[@heylookitsselena888]

@@emy1of418 hm. this is very "not all men" but "not all millennials 😂". it's the same as talking about boomers, nothing has changed and when the generation after gen z are teens they'll say the same shit about gen z cuz nothing changes and the older generations are usually stuck in the past, you'll be ok

[@everyword1249]

Yeah, I gotta say, I’m sorry but I had to stop watching. I’m an older millennial, and I don’t know a single person in my age group that likes Shane Dawson. We remember his early garbage and it was disgusting. The millennial hate in this vid...yikes!

[@katiekay4516]

Here's the thing. As someone who is a "zillenial" (because apparently that's a thing lol!) The whole "Gen Z" concept doesn't actually make sense. It makes it sound like the next generation but "Gen Z" is not young enough to be Millenials kids. The media got fed up of putting actual generations against each other (Boomers vs Millenials) so basically made up Gen Z to profit off teenage and young adult angst. I say that as a young adult lol! But here's where it doesn't make sense. Millenials are young enough to be Boomers kids hence they are the next generation. Whereas "Gen Z" are not young enough to be the kids of the full millenial age range. So they are quite literally not the next generation. There has to be at least 18 or I guess in the US, 21 year gap below the bottom age range to be the next generation. So yeah the whole "Gen Z" concept jus5 needs scrapping. For a group of people that supposedly don't like labels and want to be unique this group of people have fallen for the "Gen Z" label hook line and sinker.

[@PidgeonSprout]

Just my humble opinion, if you made your entire career off being 'offensive' why act so shocked that people get offended.

[@geelllee]

I MEAN............

[@elliesheridan8003]

this point is VERY valid!

[@MizriaHex]

Well because back then people watched him because they found his offensive jokes to be funny and entertaining...... so now that the offensive stuff gets ppl cancelled he was forced to rebrand. Everyone loved Shane's offensive content back in the day. (I dont mean literally everyone but all of his millions of fans)

[@alexandermartin625]

@@MizriaHex agreed 👍

[@xLolaLace]

A lot, if not most, comedians are like this. I think it fuels them in a way. It gives them more to talk about or make fun of, more content for them lol.

[@kelseyj.c7828]

As an Aussie Jewish person, I feel like the Flat Earther’s final boss

[@SquiddyHiggenbottom]

Funniest person in the comments section 🤣

[@justingraves8649]

(music starts)🎶🤣🤣

[@melaniescribbles]

Well, that means that you get your own boss theme.

[@mmarceline3]

you’re so powerful

[@MF-R]

I mean... maybe the pre-boss fight. I think their main boss is common sense and/or science.

[@sadgurlzluvbunniez]

I'm an ex OG Shane fan. I watched his videos when I was a kid. I had no adult supervision and I was allowed to watch whatever I wanted. I was at least 11 when I began watching Shane's channel. This was back in the Shanaynay days. Back when he still worked for Jenny Craig. After everything that came out about him, I stopped supporting him. I don't care if I grew up watching his stupid videos. If you're a shitty person, I'm not going to support you. Edit: I didn't expect so many people to relate to this. Thank you for sharing your experiences! Also, for those that are asking why I can't "accept" that people change, Shane Dawson has not changed. He's still the exact same, awful person he's always been. That's why he's besties with Jeffree Star.

[@clorby22]

I had the exact same experience as you! And I agree, I can’t believe people are willing to continue supporting this disgusting man despite knowing about all of his past controversies

[@Sleepyfairies]

I was like 7 and I watched him ugh I remember thinking it was the funniest thing ever- especially his Milly puppet episodes, I looked back at them recently and just calling them disturbing and poor taste isn’t enough. I wish I could just go back in time and stop myself from watching him- it’s so weird how I could watch so many of his videos endlessly, without being phased- while now I just can’t without being utterly disappointed in myself for watching him

[@AprilllisaurEgaming]

same here! a neighbor friend of mine who was also about 11 at the time introduced my brother and i to shane, and we were obessed until everything came out a couple years ago

[@annieoddo1475]

Honestly, it’s so weird looking back on his old content too. It’s so cringy, like why did we think it was funny?

[@ElpSmith]

I’m in the same position. IDK why I watched those videos and thought they were actually funny. I saw it all and being a dumb kid I never thought about it

[@crownclowncreations]

Throughout Shane’s brother’s _entire_ speech about what made the Flat Earth community “great” all I kept thinking was “It’s a cult. It’s a cult”. Everything he pointed out is exactly why people join cults. And that’s not even mentioning the gross antisemitism.

[@nilara93]

THIS! 👆👆👆 also got jim jones vibes with jared and his glasses, but thats another story... 💀💀💀

[@wildfirefox1]

My parents legit spent like six hours one day trying to understand the flat earth crowd and they said that everything spewed as "facts" are just all the 'higher ups' quoting each other in a weird kind of echo chamber of nonsense.

[@iNabber]

"another shane video?" FELLAS THIS IS THE FIRST IN LIKE SEVEN MONTHS and for good reason, i dont want people slipping down dangerous paths via these mental theories

[@shigarakitomura4587]

Yes!

[@lfroggyl8936]

don’t u worry chief

[@ManderLynn23]

🤨

[@strawbababababerry]

you don't owe anyone an explanation! you're doing great luv :' )

[@wtichery]

You know who makes too many videos about Shane? Shane Dawson ;^(

[@jeffreycoulombe528]

I think his strategy is: hey world look at how crazy and offensive my brother is, i’m harmless compared to him

[@MuzicOutlet]

You’re on the money. I saw a clip of Shane saying exactly that in one of the episodes.

[@annapruitt5546]

Even though that’s not a good look because his brother is allowed on his podcast. He looks bad by association. It’s his goddamn brother. He can’t be too far removed. If he thought his brother was too offensive, he wouldn’t give his brother a platform and he would separate himself from that to show that he’s trying to move forward and change

[@rosamaeart]

Just what I was thinking

[@soundsofthesea11]

@@annapruitt5546 I’m sure his brother is adopted, so I’m betting we’d just get the whole “but we aren’t related so I can’t bad” spiel. But even then, he’s still willingly putting his brothers views out there in association with himself.

[@harryoftheisland]

@@soundsofthesea11 adopted? Jared and Shane are like identical hahah

[@amberwolf5371]

I don't think millennials are going to keep his content alive. I'm a millennial and "outgrew" his content before his controversies. I definitely like long form content like podcasts but not HIS long form content. If I don't like a person I'm not gonna listen to them talk for an hour. Also, I've never heard someone use the word "woke" in real life. I associate it more with websites like reddit making fun of "PC culture" rather than an age group.

[@RayRay.01]

It was when he was suddenly into make up when I left.

[@amberwolf5371]

@@RayRay.01 I'm not sure what exactly it was for me. I just got a little older and no longer found his personality entertaining.

[@dddddanmaeeeee]

An ex friend used 'woke' a lot. Not bc she's woke but she uses it as an insult to people like me who happens to care about things she doesn't.

[@revelhilary]

exactly

[@ayeeeerin4999]

I’m the same way! I was a die hard for Shane way back but I also outgrew his content and saw little things he did that I began to not like at all. Looking back on it all since the controversy I remember seeing these things when they came out and really never thought anything of it. But that’s also coming from someone who was severely sexually, physically, and emotionally abused as a child. Which was normal in his fanbase since he brought light to those horrible circumstances.

[@Miaaooou]

I'm a 26yo who literally gave up on this dude, i cannot believe how manipulative he was with his audience and i'm sincerely a little ashamed that i liked him as a teen lol

[@roryslaine7896]

Lmao well at least you have the deceny to feel ashamed about it. I'm 31 and I NEVER understood what the appeal of Shane Dawson was. I guess kids are just easily impressed.

[@ElpSmith]

I am in the same boat. I saw and heard everything and somehow didn’t realize how bad all of it was

[@gh0stcup]

I hope you let go of that shame some day. Like you said, he was manipulative and you were just a child. You know better now and you've moved on, and you should be proud of that!

[@Miaaooou]

@@roryslaine7896 shane's content was very much for the kids who felt rejected back then, so i think a lot of us got manipulated by his "i understand you and your pain" image. Once he started to get a following, he got super edgy and was basically labeled as "the edgy teen who pushes boundaries". At this point, for some reason it was cool to watch him, so i just stuck with it, it was okay now, i was a cool kid for watching him. Graduated highschool in 2013, stopped watching his stuff, until he changed to conspiracy theories. Started to watch his stuff again. Watched the Jake Paul and Jeffree Star documentaries. Thought he changed and was a better human. And then, the whole circus came crashing down lol. I can definitely see why so many depressed teenagers got entangled in his narrative back then, but good god it's time to get away now.

[@Miaaooou]

@@gh0stcup i'm honestly so grateful that I realized just how bad it was, though I wish I would've noticed sooner. But you are absolutely right, as a teen you don't know any better + internet is an easy way to manipulate impressionable kids. Glad I went to therapy lol

[@YBlvr]

According to Merriam-Webster (and also my online experience in 2014), the term “woke” came from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) and gained prominence during the rise of Black Lives Matter in 2014. It meant to stay alert to racial and social injustice. My understanding is that the term got diluted by “allies” who didn’t know what they were doing, and then co-opted by the far right to dismiss and belittle both the allies doing a bad job AND the real activists fighting for change. Now it’s mostly used negatively, which I think is unfortunate

[@Mia199603]

Women in the woke movement aren't allies, they're fighting for themselves too. The only group that could be called allies are white straight cis men and do you see a lot of them? Because I don't. Stop stealing the right to social justice from other groups, black people aren't the ultimate victim, stop being so ignorant - the world doesn't end on America

[@indominuswrex9465]

Excellent breakdown, thank you for knowing the truth about this

[@iNabber]

like this video the moment you see this, it's a reupload and i need it in the algorithm! comment beans too 😈

[@lfroggyl8936]

no

[@AliceBHealy]

Beans

[@miko7199]

meow

[@Jvnebvg_]

Beans

[@palacsintakat]

It's so weird that 10 years ago conspiracy theorists were like hippy stoner left wingers and now its almost completely right wing. My sister was one of the old school conspiracy hippies that almost got sucked into Q conspiracy until me and her got SUPER heated in an argument and she kinda snapped out of it a few days later thankfully

[@minniehippie]

Conspiracies and "what ifs" can be fun to entertain but that's where it needs to stay entertainment, make that separation from reality clear

[@iNabber]

spot on

[@audreyelizabeth2370]

I agree with that a lot. A lot of "conspiracy" channels on KZbin don't have that clear separation. It's so dangerous for people who have types of psychotic disorders or symptoms.

[@audreyelizabeth2370]

Sorry not just youtube but everywhere really

[@aries706]

In high school I was deep in conspiracies and believed every word. Now as an adult I enjoy a good conspiracy, but like you said it’s for the entertainment of wow idiots actually believe this, and I can’t believe I was one of those idiots.

[@Mothpunk]

Back when I was (unfortunately) a Shane fan I actually experienced that weird uncomfortable shift first-hand. I was totally down for all the silly harmless theories about tv shows and movies, but then he started veering into stuff like lizard people and "9/11 was an inside job" stuff. It was when he started unironically entertaining stuff like flat earth that I stopped watching his stuff, and I'm so glad I dodged the massive bullet that came afterwards

[@hurricanefrid]

FINALLY someone's talking about the connection between conspiracy theories and antisemitism! I've been waiting for this for so friggin long it's actually ridiculous

[@11mazatl]

it's not just a connection, a large section of the beliefs people pedal today are straight up repackages antisemitism. saying the elites and wealthy "Eat babies" was originally a smear used to justify exiling and k1lling jewish people in europe etc

[@Lunar_Butterfly]

Like specific conspiracy theories or all of them?

[@treehugger9070]

@@Lunar_Butterfly a lot of them are it’s crazy

[@treehugger9070]

Right?! I’m ethnically Jewish and the amount of death threats I get from made up shit made me delete tiktok. Like literally we aren’t doing anything but vibing to our own culture. Just because one Jewish person had a bank, apparently all of us are bad?? Which makes no sense because one person doesn’t represent a whole religion/ ethnicity??.?

[@Lunar_Butterfly]

@@treehugger9070 oh my god I had no idea. That’s awful

[@firebreathingllama]

Exposing people to conspiracy theories right now is so irresponsible. We're at a time where a lot of people are searching for community in the wake of late capitalism, and exposing this shit to a wide audience is a bad idea.

[@JC-jt3ug]

I don't get this argument like surely you've got a brain for yourself? I love conspiracy theories, I don't belive them cause I'm not brain dead but they are fun

[@BartimaeusTrilogyFan]

Also their theories are just bad. Some of the stuff they said about ancient civilizations and aliens and religion was just... oof. Incredibly inaccurate, at times his brother just spouted blatantly false information. And then the leaps in logic they would make were just... amazing /s.

[@chiefofthesky]

@@JC-jt3ug believing in conspiracy theories 1) isn’t always wrong (that is, some conspiracies are real, definitionally) and 2) isn’t necessarily about how smart a person is. the rabbit hole almost always begins with something mild, and the theories presented gradually escalate. it’s *designed* to ease you into a way of thinking that is conducive to adopting more and more extreme beliefs. many people don’t even go all the way down, or pick and choose what they believe in because some things are just too extreme for their tastes. but it has very little, if anything at all, to do with intelligence. it’s comparable to how *everyone* is potentially susceptible to cult indoctrination. it’s not always about intelligence or insecurity. we all have something we’re vulnerable to (usually many things), and those vulnerabilities are targets for both conspiracy theorists and cultists.

[@firebreathingllama]

@@chiefofthesky put it better than I could lol

[@JC-jt3ug]

@@chiefofthesky you provide good points however with respect, nah they are silly Billy's.

[@dabsallday9938]

iNabber :”I hate Podcasts” Also iNabber: “ I now have a Podcast” 😂😂😂

[@MadAliceInWonderland]

The level of anti-semitism in the flat earth community is pretty scary, ngl. It's even weirder because my mom is a conspiracy theorist (and we're Jewish). I have no idea how she doesn't see this... I don't think she believes flat earth, but she believes a whole chunk of other things. Watching her fall down that rabbit hole was sad tbh. She used to be so into science and tangible things, and now? She believes things like, 5G is bad for you and "the government" made COVID in a lab. Which government? No clue, lmao

[@tatiana4050]

I know Jewish people like that. They will just go with "they aren't talking about jews actually they are talking about Zionists"

[@SmittenKitten.]

But what if... and stay with me here... What if 5G created COVID in a flat Earth lab?? It's all making sense now! Also, last year when there was a hurricane aiming its fury toward Louisiana again, I was in the comments section of a Weather Channel video. The comments were legitimately the most insane reading I've ever seen. People talking about the government controlling the weather and others replying with a nod, adding their insane theories on top about how there's a global cabal of secret government officials working together to control "the masses" via weather machines and how they (the commenters) were the only ones seeing the truth. A poor guy was talking about how scared he was to lose his home, and people were yelling at him that if his home is destroyed, Jesus wanted him dead, etc. It was legitimately terrifying to read.

[@chrisdooley6468]

Wow Riley. That’s got to be tough to hear your own mother espousing some nutty beliefs lol. Flat-earthers are a strange bunch. A few years ago they challenged the government to put together an impartial group of scientists to run an experiment that will prove once and for all that we live on a flat earth. The test was done (it involved a boat on water with lines painted on a sail and said lines were watched as the boat moved farther away thereby showing the slight curve as the distance increased) and the looks on their faces were priceless because clearly it showed the earth is round 😂. Does your mum subscribe to the moon landing hoax as well? You should start a channel talking about what it’s like to grow up with a mum like that. I’d definitely watch for sure!

[@mrpeach2023]

@@paulwaltersheherfeministvl521 no one cares

[@emiimoore]

5G is bad for you and covid was made in a lab, these things have already been proven 😂😂😂

[@lilz]

Edit: not offended! Just clarifying!!!! I love you inabber! Just wanted to be like oh I definitely don’t like Shane but I do love podcasts. But Shane podcast = NOPE No no no no I am a millennial and I was a fan since the very beginning. I am no longer a fan. A lot of my friends are on the same boat. We are absolutely disgusted with Shane. A lot of us didn’t seem to get how bad a lot of his content was. Nothing Shane can do will bring me back as a fan. Also nobody I know uses woke. I think that’s the much younger millennials? Not sure? But you are right, we love podcasts. It’s so nice to get work done and listen to a story or people talk. Love audio dramas most

[@p0w3r64]

15 here. Nobody says woke

[@BeastWrobel]

Sadly ive seen older people use the term woke. Mostly on these very far right podcasts and media platforms talking about people who don't align with them and or younger people. I live in a house where I hear it all the time

[@tatiana4050]

@@p0w3r64 i'm 23 nobody i know uses woke. I think only boomers use woke when complaining

[@PretigiousPanda]

I kind of like the term “woke” and would consider it a compliment 🤷🏻‍♀️ Also a millennial who was a fan waaay back and haven’t been for a long time.

[@TheLillkill]

I think “woke” is a boomer thing tbh 😅 As a millennial too, I agree.

[@spicychai69]

I grew up with Shane, but not with his very old content. I fell in love with the ghosty adventures and stuff like that. I kinda live under a rock so I kinda vibed watching him without seeing any of the awful podcasts. I adored Garrett and Andrew most though. It wasn't hard for me to stop watching when Shane started doing things with Jeffree.

[@saltyspittoon]

Same here, kinda. I wouldn’t say I grew up with him, but I did watch him in some of my teen years. I always loved the ghost stuff and anything involving Garret. Dropping Shane wasn’t hard tho.

[@psychicbyinternet]

Check out Sweet Boys if you haven't. It's Garrett and Andrew's podcast and it's pretty funny and weird and wholesome.

[@spicychai69]

@@psychicbyinternet Yea! I absolutely loved Sweet Boys. I wish it was still going though!

[@KaraToNihongo]

Im exactly the same I thought he was just some kinda awkward fuy with funny friends. I had no idea the depth to his crazy

[@jim-qs2dh]

@@saltyspittoon ,

[@hard.g0re]

I love how when shanes brother started speaking about what being woke is EVERYONE looked nervous, not a single person knew what he was gunna say

[@chapterandclawstudio]

Yeah, I’m going to respectfully disagree. As a millennial, I watched Shane during his “skit“ era, and I am no longer a fan. Nor will I ever be. I think his core audience right now are younger, the people who started watching him during his spooky Vlog era. Millennials are grown now. I’m in my 30s. I don’t wanna speak for anybody, but I don’t think many of us are Shane fans anymore. Honestly just tired of people shitting on millennials. Seems like every generation is coming for us now.

[@psychicbyinternet]

Yeah exactly. We need millennial and zoomer unity, seeing as we are the people who will be affected by climate change and conservative politics.

[@zorro......]

idt hes saying all millenials who watch him are still fans. hes saying all og fans who hasnt stopped watching shane are probably millenials.

[@aleesiauh]

@@zorro...... Except when he was saying that it's regretful to be a millennial. Bruh. You're 25, get over yourself

[@chapterandclawstudio]

@@aleesiauh The only person I’ve heard use the word woke recently is my gen x Dad, and he was using it as an insult. 🤷🏻‍♀️ I don’t think I’ve heard around my age using that term at all.

[@Miaaooou]

Don't you know that millenials are the bane of all existence yet? Everything is our fault lol (please understand my humongous sarcasm here)

[@sasoridanna9250]

Suddenly, Shane's new ventures into giving a platform to conspiracy theories and their exploration makes a whole lot of sense.

[@sasoridanna9250]

@@Lee-fw9mr I'm a big believer in reincarnation myself since it doesn't make sense to me for our souls to have this one specific place be the end all be all, so no I don't believe that reincarnation is lumped in with the rest of this. My apologies that I came across that way, I must have missed something regarding that since I tend to listen to these while doing something else (I mean this as an explanation, not an excuse). The comment I made came as sort of an epiphany to me since I don't interact with these types of influencers beyond tea channels and such because I find the cultural and psychological observations of channels like iNabber's interesting, I'm big into deep dives so I thought I saw a pattern between Shane's "jokes/it's just a joke" type personality and his brother's brand of conspiracy theories, when you're raised in the type of environment where hate is prevalent it's hard to break out of that cycle, especially when you're trying to please a family member or are in a state of feeling afraid so you try and lean back on supports, so Shane's cornered animal instincts are very noticeable to me right now Edit: At the risk of sounding pretentious (or more pretentious if I'm already coming across like that lol) I'm gonna go further on this and say that I hope that Shane gets a better understanding about like. Cultural phenomena and religion and starts to be more open-minded instead of ending up like his brother, and that he approaches this with a sense of wonder and curiosity about the human collective instead of a sense of fear and greed (big ask ik all things considered but I want to be optimistic)

[@Lee-fw9mr]

@@sasoridanna9250 Oh no no! I'm so sorry, my comment wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the video creator! I didn't even realize I was "replying" to a comment. I thought I was leaving a stand-alone comment. I'm so sorry, I'll remove my comment asap. You're so kind, I'm sorry I made you feel that you were offensive in any way. My apologies. ❤

[@sasoridanna9250]

@@Lee-fw9mr Oh no worries! I hope you have a great day and be safe!

[@amandaread4293]

I'm a millennial and I had never even heard of Shane till 2019 when another KZbinr started talking about his videos, after 2020 when I learnt about all his past content I was so disgusted and I don't think I could ever watch him again. You are right about millennials listening to podcasts I do listen to podcasts a lot.

[@britsaunders2151]

Millenial and OG fan of Shane here. I and pretty much everyone I know who used to watch him stopped when everything came up. Also everytime anyone talks about how millennials use things to insult the younger generations--- yeah, all my peers talk them up. Might be surprising but people are just people. Some are just crappy people despite age, upbringing, race, disabilities, or any other thing people try to use to divide us all further. Sending love to all of you, beauties. Let's treat one another well and forget these weird umbrellas.

[@psychicbyinternet]

I think the millennials and zoomers and cool boomers need to unite against the boomery boomers. I hate the antagonism between millennials and zoomers. I'd say the majority of people in both age groups lean more left-wing anyway.

[@katyakalenian7567]

Yea.. I used to watch him all the time and then he started going to the makeup community and I slowly stopped watching him. Then everything came out and I’m glad I stopped 😅

[@Kiterpuss]

Legit I think the "millenial vs zoomer" stuff is entirely tiktok nonsense that people took too seriously. Like, one person started a funny skit about the stereotypical differences between the generations and some mainstream media ran with it as "millenials are turning on gen Z!" I've never heard someone in either generation shit on the other outside of like a child saying millenials are "old" or something.

[@justabookishreader]

I'm jewish - born into the ethnicity, and I love my culture and the connection I feel even if I don't believe everything in the Torah. I knew where the lizard people thing was going but I was still SHOCKED when it was said out loud and I'm so tired (from jewish people being blamed for everything as well as from work and school) I couldn't even cry, I just sighed and put my head in my hands and had a sip of wine. This shit pisses me off and scares the hell out of me.

[@circleofsorrow4583]

You put your head in your hands and took a sip of wine? Sounds awkward, unless you had a long tongue made for drinking because you don't have lips 🤔

[@asenath3721]

@@circleofsorrow4583 😂

[@bookburner3799]

Your people are reaching the end of the road :)

[@bookburner3799]

@@circleofsorrow4583 HAHAHA

[@justabookishreader]

@@bookburner3799 oh yea? Tell me more why don’t you

[@deyedrah]

I would DEARLY love if we would stop this generational feuding bullshit. Saying that “millennials do this” or “gen-z are like this” is such a vast overgeneralization.

[@MeoTojite]

Yes please. It's just used to pit people together and say "my generation is better" which is so immature.

[@GingerTrashPanda]

This is pretty much what I wanted to type :)

[@justnana13-klj40]

46( woohoo- Gen X. Lost generation..dang if we didn't live up to it, tho...). Agree with you, tho. There are good and bad, ridiculous and grounded, etc. in ALL generations. It's like another pointed out- it's a reason for one age bracket to attempt to be "Superior" to another. And boomer? I wish people would really read up on that. ( Baby boomers, the years they were born, etc.). Hope everyone has a great day! Drink water, but don't overdo it...

[@user-nz9nf9ug2q]

It's so annoying and an unnecessary cycle

[@everyword1249]

100% agree! The generalization of any one set of people is just gross. I personally thought that iNabber was better than that.

[@mochidokiiYT]

I was way too young to be watching Shane Dawsons older videos in middle school. Then I got into his conspiracy theories. But after all the information that came out and realizing what I watched as a child was so messed up…. I could never NEVER watch him again. I’m disgusted I supported him when I was a child.

[@shessomethingelse1639]

Same here. I was so excited everytime he uploaded a new The Mind of Jake Paul - episode when I was 15 years old (frick I miss those times, life was so much simpler). I watched his conspiracy theory videos occasionally, but didn't become a fan of him until he started making documentaries full time. Honestly, hearing the information and realizing how disgusting the bastard is, I'm thankful that I never bought any of his merch. Don't blame yourself for supporting him as a child - you didn't know any better, neither of us did. Just be happy that you're not supporting him anymore and are moving forward with your life. Cheers

[@drea8879]

Same!!! And looking back at what I thought was hilarious when I was 11-13 makes me cringe and is honestly embarrassing as fuck 😵‍💫

[@moonlight_sparkle6659]

We were children, we didn't know any better. I too was an OG Shane fan and for the longest time until everything hit the fan, I loved him so much and thought his content was so amazing and the greatest thing on earth. But now that I'm 21 almost 22, I realize just how fucked up that man is and everything he's ever said and done really made a bad impact on me. Idk how he did for you guys but to me, he kind of fucked up parts of my childhood and I know that's such a weird and dramatic thing to say but the content he posted before doing the "docuseries" with how much he talked about sex and violence and other graphic material made me get into some things that I really wasn't ready for at 14-15. It really messed with my mind and some of my actions.

[@thespicecorner]

In the same boat. I absolutely loved his content with Garret and Drew, and I really do miss it sometimes. I can’t rewatch it without feeling sick to my stomach.

[@shroomshroom5945]

Yep. I remember watching his old videos in like 4th grade. My older siblings started watching it so I did too.

[@MadameCirce]

Ugh, Shane bringing on his brother to this podcast is frustrating and really brings Shane's intelligence and judgment further into question. As you pointed out, it isn't any "anti-woke" sentiments he might have, it's the conspiracy theories. Stuff like flat earth and lizard people is just laughable and ridiculous enough on face value to make any sane individual not have him on their show. But then you dig deeper and find (yep, I'll say it because you can't) they are rooted firmly in anti-semitism. Bad move on Shane's part. Like, I get it... he's his brother and he loves him and wants him to do well. But this shows he isn't just not pushing back on that kind of BS behind the scenes, he's enabling it on his platform AND he lacks the critical thinking and research skills himself to realize why those theories are so bad. I'm convinced at this point that Shane is far dumber than I ever noticed he was in his prime. EDIT: Aaaaaand I paused the video and left my rant too soon because the anti-semitism issue was firmly discussed.

[@alexandermartin625]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@domm5715]

damn i never realized so many ppl here were this woke, nasa has anti-semtic roots too, should we cancel that as well?

[@singaporechickenrice2484]

i think the dumb one here in u for ever taking him seriously he is a comedian and his videos are meant only to entertain.

[@chrris10_productions62]

I’m still confused of makes the theories Jared say “dangerous or harmful “ when the theories hes said have been around for years .

[@wetthepeasheck7025]

@@chrris10_productions62 Just because these “theories” have around for years does not mean they can’t be harmful of dangerous.

[@Mustafa777.]

I wish I could eternal sunshine all of my Shane Dawson memories out of my head forever

[@xonlyy0u]

Same lmao all that useless information I learned against my will

[@emilyd9155]

As a millennial, I feel like Shane’s brother gives more of a “boomer facebook” vibe myself with the obsession with wokeness. I do listen to a lot of podcasts though lol

[@addie1080]

even if Shane's brother doesn't believe in the conspiracy theories, he promotes and endorses them. so many lead to antisemitism and a disengagement with reality

[@artiseen]

Dude, as a gen z, we can watch long form content. I watched an 8-hour-long video in one sitting and most videos are like an hour long on KZbin now, but we wouldn't care about Shane’s podcast

[@audreyelizabeth2370]

Also as a gen z I basically only listen to/watch long form content.

[@YandereDay]

If you are talking about the icarly/victorious retrospectives, same. If not, you should check them out lol

[@artiseen]

@@YandereDay I wass, how did u know 0-0 also the pyrocynical video on utopia , you should check that out as well

[@chatnoir9038]

@@YandereDay A person of culture I see

[@noelle-p7m]

yess i love quinton reviews

[@HoodieHorizon]

why is it the worst people with the worst opinions always start a damn podcast

[@Lore.n]

Probably cause people in their life don’t agree so they start one to reach those who do agree

[@Elvenpath]

Because main stream media tells them to go away and the people in their lives probably don't want to listen either. In the internet someone will agree and listen.

[@genera1013]

I really feel like the year range for millennials is too broad. The oldest of us are in their forties while some of us haven't yet hit thirty. I'm 27 and I have practically nothing in common with older millennials. If you just heard my beliefs, I'd be lumped in more with "woke gen z" than what you're describing as a millennial. Oh, and I am a former fan of Shane. I watched him in high school until I realized the f***Ed up nature of his "humor"

[@rotisseriepossum]

Same although I was never a fan. But yeah all my friends and I relate to zoomers waaay more than older millennials, despite being in our mid/late 20s. What’s weird is, depending on who you ask, I might be an old zoomer or a young millennial

[@genera1013]

@@rotisseriepossum I've even heard the term zellennial. It's not just millennials tho. My dad was born at the very tail end of the baby boomers and doesn't relate to them or gen X. Being in the middle is hard 😔

[@cay924]

Yeah I'm 24 and definitely align more with Gen Z than with millennials.

[@julknowl]

Same, I’m 29. My ideals align with Gen Z way more

[@ElpSmith]

@@cay924 Well that age right now I’ve heard is considered gen z. Who cares though? It’s all contrived BS anyway

[@inadamquate]

As someone who is Gen Z, I do "listen" to podcasts, but only while multitasking, (i.e, walking, drawing, writing etc) and even then I don't really pay attention most of the time, I just use them to fill the silence; and I can just as easily listen to something else like music.

[@anaszakiri]

Same here except I am not Gen Z .

[@skye1235]

I'm 23 (gen-z) and love true crime podcasts that's pretty much the only form of podcast I listen too 😂😂 and I hate tiktok and I find insta reels very annoying 😂😂😂

[@killergrooves2438]

“I’m X years old therefore I’ve changed,” is an argument people incapable of introspection and/or narcissist say. DarkSydePhil says the same argument at age 40 when he’s the same person he was 10 years ago which was a 14-year old in an adult’s body. Change is determined by your ability to self-examine.

[@justingraves8649]

I guess 80+yrs. are perfect angels lol👴🏼👵🏼=😇👼🏼

[@YandereDay]

Not sure why you keep insisting gen z doesn't consume long-form content when A. You make long form content and have a gen z audience B. Millennials had Vine, which was even shorter than tiktok

[@SanktaLo]

yah like…..uploads a 40 minute video and says gen z can’t do long form? like wtf does he consider long form then?

[@user-qi9qu6xm9l]

The problem w shane's conspiracy content is that he offers these theories up as seemingly valid ideologies. He needs to be more responsible with the way he presents these things.

[@raversfantasy]

Or people can look up the definition of conspiracy theory and have their answer? It’s kinda in the name…theory…

[@user-qi9qu6xm9l]

@@raversfantasy babe his audience is generally young teens/tweens. The most impressionable and moldable demographic possible. The human brain isn’t done developing for another ten ish years. Kids that age don’t have the mental capacity or life experience to know to question their favorite celebrities. Do you remember the girls who tried to kill their friend cause they believed slender man was real after it went viral online? Yeah, exactly. Young minds aren’t the sharpest. Shane bears a tremendous responsibility to not teach harmful things to his tween audience. Getting major victim blaming vibes from u

[@katslayter4533]

Why does he? He's employed as a teacher at your sch ool? Lool 🤣

[@dutchik5107]

@@katslayter4533 if you have power, influence, you also get a somewhat social responsibility

[@MylesJoinsTheGame]

I absolutely agree with you about conspiracy content on KZbin. My old step-Dad fell down the rabbit hole and joined Q-anon. It’s a dangerous rabbit hole to fall down

[@kactus1889]

I'm sorry but I find it hilarious that you hate podcasts because I usually listen to your videos as if they're podcasts while doing something else

[@apostrophe.t]

re: "woke" It isn't meant to be an insult, but folks who are more right-leaning tend to use it against folks who are left-leaning, just like they used to use "politically correct" or "social justice warrior" as insults. I'm not sure who would actually be insulted by being called woke/SJW/PC, though. In any case, it really doesn't have to do with what "generation" a person comes from. Millennials aren't collectively calling people "woke" in an attempt to insult someone.

[@pkmarie04]

oh boy I sure do love, as a Jewish woman, controlling everything and making life hell for the flat earth society 😍

[@heyheyokay592]

As a non-Jewish person, thank you for your service.

[@starrynyte158]

As soon as I saw Shane's brother, I was like hell no. He's a flat earther and that's just a step too far

[@mippy5842]

i hate that shane did a conspiracy theory on flat earth because at first i was kinda like wow i like the meaning behind it (or at least what i was getting out of the explanation), you're on this earth for a reason & everyone has a purpose. like obviously the flat earth part was what made me laugh at it instead of getting into it but then i did more research and realized how messed up some aspects of it is. i guess i don't remember the episode well since it's been years and i only used his videos as background noise, but like from what i remember: if you're going to cover a theory at least give the whole thing. don't glorify it to make it seem like it has a good meaning behind it to get people to receive your videos better.

[@kenn8669]

Aren’t you 25 Fraser ? You’re this close 🤏🏻 from being a millennial/you’re even straight up considered like one by some, you’re not that different from the big portion of millennials who haven’t hit 30 yet either. People in their late 20s aren’t as out of the loop as you portray. The age range is way too broad to say « millennials are this way ».

[@AlyahSolano]

Comment appreciated! Age group generalization needs to stop. Whether someone is a millennial or Gen Z, that isn’t going to solely determine their personality/ life. We don’t have to feud and the way inabber was talking was really feeding into the divide

[@user-es7ui5mc1m]

yeah this, i'm relatively solidly gen z (23 so i guess still considered cusp by some but close enough) and have met plenty gen z people with very questionable views and belief systems. I think the constant reference to age made this analysis weaker tbh, could've been much stronger if he'd just focused on political beliefs

[@waltwhitmansbeard]

i just wanna say re: millennials and being "woke": this term, stolen from aave and twisted by mainstream white culture, was weaponized against progressive millennials, particularly black and brown ones, by those on the political right long before it ever started being hurled at gen z folks. i was 16-ish (27 now) the first time i saw the word being used in its original aave context, and it was only a few years later before it was the phrase du jour to describe "people we don't like" by the political right. woke stopped meaning "conscientious about systems of oppression and power" and started meaning "a loud black person who won't shut up about things we don't care about." woke today looks little like it did ten years ago, and its use has little to do with age (it's hurled as an "insult" by everyone from boomers to gen z) and more to do with political alignment. that being said, younger people tend to be aligned more politically left than older people, so yeah, gen z is going to be more left than young millennials, who are in turn going to be more left than older millennials, etc.

[@mirinwamoods]

Well put!

[@maddyline5797]

Amen

[@ploopydiper]

I’m one of the people you mentioned falling down the rabbit hole and I’m so glad you mentioned it. I was a fan of Shane during the conspiracy theory era and it really fucked me up. I consumed that shit constantly and would rewatch the videos a lot. At that point I had been developing a severe anxiety disorder due to recent trauma and some of his theories about the government made me extremely paranoid and fed my anxiety. I fell into the world of end times theories and my anxiety became so bad I had to be homeschooled, I was having 3 hour long attacks multiple times a day because I was convinced the world was ending. It became a cycle and I was in constant distress. Eventually I became suicidal and came very close to overdosing on the Xanax I was prescribed for my condition (bad idea on my doctor’s part btw, I was literally 12). That whole period of my life caused me religious trauma but I’ve learned to laugh off all of the insane theories pushed by crazy old religious people. However, I now fear them for a different reason. Ever since Trump was in office the whole conspiracy theory community has become much more dangerous, I mean just look at QAnon. It’s alarming that Shane is going back to conspiracy theories especially at a time like this considering he still does actually have a large audience Btw I’m not blaming Shane for my anxiety disorder as like I said I had recently suffered lifechanging trauma, but I’m bringing light to how his content and the irresponsible ways he presented theories led me down an extremely dark path and most likely many others

[@shelbygee6283]

I don’t know any millennial personally who still likes Shane Dawson lol

[@shelbygee6283]

But yes we do like podcasts lmao

[@amberwolf5371]

@@shelbygee6283 can't deny that lmao I do listen to a lot of podcasts. But yea, I don't know a single person who likes Shane Dawson.

[@RanTheAwesome]

@@shelbygee6283 Not me

[@Helen-cs2zx]

you're surrounding yourself with the right people, of course not all millenials like shane but it appears that most of the people who do are millenials :)

[@silversmoke6]

@@Helen-cs2zx are there actually any stats that support that?

[@planetfierce]

Man the ageism in this video is so fucking real huh. Just taking every opportunity to make unnecessary and petty jabs at millennials for zero reason and lumping us in with boomers. Very bizarre.

[@TaniDraws]

It feels very 'I just found out I (barely) fit into the Z generation so now I too get to dunk on Y'ers'. Fraser, if you'd been born even two or three years earlier, you'd be a millennial - and honestly, the whole Gen Z Vs Gen Y thing is stupid.

[@liahuribe2126]

Ok no this is so funny, i can forgive peeing in a bottle in a rush and there is no bathroom near by but like doesn’t Shane just leave them around and shit? And like he does at home where he has bathroom and sinks and the OUTSIDE? Ryland got too defensive and like i get it thats his spouse but don’t judge us for thinking its gross af

[@kristinwood2710]

No I literally remember him putting a video with that in it, and me, my sister and my friend were like okie I get it but also why??? Like why were there so many, why are they so full, why have they not been thrown away or emptied out, and like why not just get up to go in your BATHROOM

[@liahuribe2126]

@@kristinwood2710 EXACTLY, like sure pee in a bottle or a cup or whatever. Like, its not bad to have something in your room if you don’t wanna get up to go to the bathroom I grew up with family members doing that, but he had ONE TOO MANY BOTTLES and he just kept it there and let it be on videos and talked about it like its not gross. IT IS GROSS

[@crybabycasper]

Do y’all remember when Ryland said that Shane scratched - actually dug into it - his butt and when he took his hand back out, it was covered in poop 💀 MIND YOU THEY WERE ON AN AIRPLANE….?? 😭

[@liahuribe2126]

@@crybabycasper WHY WOULD THEY JUST GIVE OUT INFO LIKE THIS??? Its so gross

[@thesnailale]

@@crybabycasper I remember when Shane thought Ryland was weird for checking after he wipes to make sure he’s clean 💀

[@zeld0t]

I feel like pissing in bottles when you're in a PINCH is okay, it's still gross but I get it, and I can believe there has been at least one time where every dude has had to do that. But the thing is with Shane he literally fucking pisses in bottles and leaves it by his bedside. Like it's fucking Gatorade. Surely not every guy does that unless he's either bed bound or has some issues, and if that is a normal thing I think I'ma have to start rocking the lesbian flag instead of the bi flag this month... 🌚

[@kristinwood2710]

There’s no way it’s super common as a choice to keep them by their bed, I’m 8 months pregnant and I have to pee literally 24/7 and I have NEVER thought to use a bottle I’d rather get up and piss than have yo worry about my piss bottle in the morning

[@zeld0t]

@@kristinwood2710 EX-ACTLY. And hell, even then if you came here and said that was something you did, I wouldn't even judge you for it. It would've been a valid excuse. But the thing is, Shane had a bathroom right next to him from what I remember about their old bedroom, and further more he was never bed bound or had any kind of excuse for the literal collection of pee he had by his bed. It's just soooo icky and I really feel bad that Ryland seems to be convincing himself that's normal

[@sorntrash]

Umm everyone does something that’s a little…uh well you know? Weird. He’s just the embodiment of TMI.

[@kuroon7553]

Ok, as a millennial, I've never used "woke" without being ironical or making fun of someone (not insulting, just joking). No one uses it unironically, let's be real. And if you know Shane, no matter if you love podcasts, you'll NEVER support him. I'd like to believe the biggest part of my generation is at least capable of understanding why tf you shouldn't support someone as lacking of character like Shane.

[@zorro......]

i.....am not sure we can generalize any generation to not supporting shane. there will be millenials who enjoy his content and there will also be gen zs who do it. the more accurate statement, probably, is that conservatives and right wingers use woke as an insult, as opposed to any specific generation. but gen z and young millenials did popularize its use (which, originated from aave) so saying its never used unironically isnt actually true. black americans used the term, which got co-opted online with gen z/lgbt crowds which hence popularized it and that, in turn, made people find it cringey and started using it ironically and making fun of it. its just another example of people co-opting aave and discarding it when its no longer "cool" even tho black americans have been and probably still do use the terms. (like saying "no cap", "go off", the whole yas queen kinda language that drag has co-opted is largely originated from black american lgbt ppl too).

[@chatnoir9038]

"woke" is appropriated AAVE, like most of "gen Z slang". It's just white people taking words from POCs because it's a trend; words that have existed for a looong time, and using them incorrectly in the wrong context and bastardizing them and then finally discarding them as "outdated" or "stupid". "Woke" is AAVE and it's not "gen Z slang" and frankly it's disgusting how we appropriate these words and ridicule them. (See also: yass, slay, etc.) They are not our words.

[@chatnoir9038]

@@zorro...... EXACTLY!

[@kuroon7553]

I see. Didn't know "woke" was part of AAVE. English is not my first language and I'm not from the US nor do I live there. I thought "woke" was just internet slang, thank you for teaching me!

[@chatnoir9038]

@@kuroon7553 No problem. English is not my first language either but I'm chronically online so.. 💀👍

[@cheenisaight6276]

Hi inabber I was wondering if you could do a video covering the fucked up shit Ezera Miller has been doing on the Lakota reservation! I know you're busy with other stuff but the seriousness of him grooming a Lakota teenager and slamming a car door on her mother multiple times is very concerning as she has not been heard from in the last 2 days. Again I know you're busy and you might not even see this, but it would be nice to see someone to cover this incident. Thank you for your videos, I've been subscribed since 2018!

[@gh0stcup]

Ezra's actions are despicable, and it's still important that we don't misgender them

[@veronicawilson7594]

Dude WHAT

[@taradavis661]

HE WHAT

[@cheenisaight6276]

@@gh0stcup you're completely right, I didn't know both of their pronouns were they / them at the time I wrote this I'm sorry 🥲

[@maryanne32]

Damn, I didn’t know they did that, that’s horrifying

[@jenniferdesantiago9805]

People are hung up on the cat stuff but not his creepy ways with younger people ???

[@marymurphy1877]

I think its just that its easier for them to joke about the cat thing and… don’t want to think about the kid thing sadly :/

[@TaylorGang0212]

“I’m not age shaming here” *continues to age shame I’m a 32 yr old millennial and have never used the word woke un-ironically in my life.

[@paralarazaparalaraza3214]

Same. Lol.

[@chatnoir9038]

Woke is appropriated AAVE like most of the so-called millenial/gen z slang (no cap, yass, queen, slay, etc etc). White people take these words that have existed for a long time in POC communities and make them disposable trends that get discarded once white people get bored of them and deem them uncool and outdated. Woke is not even our word to use as white people.

[@TaylorGang0212]

@@chatnoir9038 😒😒😒😒

[@chatnoir9038]

@@TaylorGang0212 It's the truth, I don't know what you want me to say 🤷

[@silversmoke6]

@@chatnoir9038 whats the truth exactly?

[@annieoddo1475]

As a younger millennial I definitely feel like my peers and I are part of that “woke” community you’re talking about. Even my brother who is 34 is a part of it, but I think people over 30 are more about the core ideals and values themselves and not so much the idea of being “woke.” I should also mention that I used to watch Shane and I’ve since abandoned him. I have no idea who’s still sticking by him, but I’m certainly not and neither are any of my friends.

[@sarahdavis2406]

I think it can really vary by location too. Like in a major city you're going to find a lot of people over 30 that fir into that "woke" community but less-so in a smaller town.

[@LeahInTheRye]

I'm a millennial who followed Shane in the early days, I'd like to believe we've grown enough to be able to look at Shane's actions and be critical of them and not just blindly follow him.

[@CWazBroadwayBandGeek]

“I’m not age shaming here.” *continues to age shame because not all millennials use that word because it’s over used and annoying* And SANE, EDUCATED, INFORMED millennials don’t like Shane. 😒🤦🏻‍♀️

[@YandereDay]

And also insisting again that gen z doesn't consume long-form content "because brain fry from tiktok." As if vine wasn't a thing for millennials or gen z doesn't also consume a lot of podcasts.

[@chewnotchw3]

@@YandereDay yeah that bothered me, I'm gen z (I think) and I enjoy long form, 2 hours max, bc I enjoy background noise.

[@brooketerry8404]

I agree with this 100%, that and the whole “woke” thing got under my skin. People make fun of others for being “woke” when they are virtue signaling, not for having opinions that care about others.

[@NSLuna]

THIS

[@chatnoir9038]

"Woke" is appropriated AAVE, like most of so-called "millenial/ gen Z slang". It's disgusting how we appropriate these words that have existed for a long time in POC communities, use them incorrectly and out of context, make them disposable trends that get discarded and ridiculed once white people get bored of them and deem them to no longer be in vogue.

[@nerium.nerium]

20:05 you are totally age shaming because you're painting a huge swath of a generation with a very broad brush

[@meggomoo_7196]

you explained 'woke' being used as an insult so well!!!! I've been trying to put that into words that for ages!!!!

[@cokeandcheese.6617]

i hate that they keep playing this self-aware game of "being cancelled" when it was just his audience finally waking up to the reality that he isn't a good person. usually, i give people who have been cancelled a chance to redeem themselves and to change, but he really hasn't been showing signs of changing himself for the better. all i see is him being more careful in his actions and words to avoid getting "cancelled" again. it's disgusting

[@MusicIsLife1024]

What should he do instead? /gen

[@cokeandcheese.6617]

@@MusicIsLife1024 leave the platform just like jenna marbles did. she left because she felt immense guilt from what she did. he said he was inspired by her apology anyway, he should do the same if he truly felt bad for his actions. if i was in his shoes, i would also choose to leave since i don't think i deserve a platform after the amount of pain i've caused others. ALSO, he is still putting out harmful stuff to this day with the conspiracy theories attacking people of minority. shows how he hasn't learned anything

[@annakev8088]

@@MusicIsLife1024 stay tf off KZbin like his audience told him to. But he won’t because how else will he afford his mansion?

[@katarina5651]

Calling 25 year old people “middle aged” is the most gen z thing I have seen in a while

[@scipiodriver4076]

And inabber is literally 25 lmao he’s just roasting himself

[@silverdyne]

While I agree some topics on his brother's channel are kinda weird. I don't think topics like reincarnation and other religious/religiously affiliated stuff should be disallowed nor is dangerous.

[@alirpa77]

I think it’s really kind and compassionate of you to be concerned for Shane. No worries, though. He will be okay. And if he messes up, ppl will get him.

[@CometNuclei]

Sorry but putting whole generations under the same umbrella like this is stupid. Stupid people come from all walks of life 🤷‍♀️ Therefore, so do good people 🙂 I think often this type of talk is just taking measure of the American average which is less than 5% of the world. I guess it just feels a little disheartening to be rounded up with people like this when the American millennial isn't even close to the average millennial where I'm from

[@AlyahSolano]

I agree. Generational generalization needs to stop. This kind of speech used in the video creates an unnecessary negative connotation. Borderline ageism

[@sourgreendolly7685]

Shane is a millennial, we know his audience is younger than him so I don’t know about us being the dedicated fans. I know the people that try to argue with me are definitely children. Also my brain is definitely melted by short form content lmao

[@narcozez]

I feel like you’re incredibly sheltered from how big stream communities are and how many young people are in them. Streaming is growing and is all about very long form content. Twitch is growing steadily and has been for years, very dedicated community. I think we’ll be seeing more and more long form content.

[@MareCat31]

"Millennials and Boomers" So Frasier, you just going to miss Gen X? Also,I don't think that all the alternative beliefs are bad, like Reincarnation isn't that hurtful if you are mindful. The FE one is totes cray and so are the other ones pictured. And also,DEAR GOD, IT'S BALD SHANE!!

[@tatiana4050]

The thing is that many in those communities have more conspiratorial beliefs, so you might go in with one and come out with 3.

[@emrys1921]

All I want is for him to stop talking about bodies and weight on the podcast. It’s so counterproductive considering his own ED and body image issues. 🤧 EDIT: I wasn’t a fan from the beginning, but started watching late into his kitchen video(s) phase. I witnessed the transition into an amazing content creator and then the downfall. I’ve avoided all of his content since he’s come back to KZbin, but I decided to try the podcast the other day. It wasn’t terrible, but god, it’s so hard to consume these days. 🤧 Idk. I’m sure it’s way more than millennials!

[@clarinet8989]

Earlier than Shane's babys first therapy session.

[@kirstycullen6583]

The whole blaming millennials aspect of this is a pretty bad take. Shane is trash, people who like him just have bad taste regardless of the year they happened to be born.

[@apostrophe.t]

I agree. Shane appeals to a certain kind of audience. Maybe most of them are Millennials - I don't know the analytics - but I don't think that age range plays a major role in it. Millennials aren't flocking to his podcast because we remember him from early KZbin or whatever. I'd be willing to bet that most people who once turned into his channel back in 2006 have grown up, developed different interests, and learned how problematic Shane is.

[@nicolasbroaddus8819]

Yeah, and there's plenty of fascist gen z nutjobs too. It's a bizarre part of this take that just feels forced and ageist.

[@TaniDraws]

Oh absolutely, it came off so weird and as just... Judging an entire generation for some of the people of that gen being trash. That honestly doesn't help anything; just like painting all boomers as selfish assholes who give no shits about the world being destroyed - my folks are younger boomers ('57 and '61), and especially my dad is incredibly devoted to living sustainably and using the car as little as possible, for example. Badmouthing an entire generation isn't going to inspire anyone to better themselves.

[@nilara93]

This 👆👆

[@katslayter4533]

What? No way..an American thinks someone who thinks different to them is bad? No it's not like an American to be a narcissist 🤣

[@HowdyHowdy_]

Shane affected, influenced, and damaged countless lives through his years of "content". Keep up the coverage, letting him escape into silence is how he gets away with what he does.

[@mmoscoviumm]

it’s always a good day when fraser brings in the laughs

[@iambored5585]

Lmao even though I’ve already seen this the skit still has me dying.

[@dexaria]

As a millennial that opening screams “I am in high school and think I am very cool” energy. Also I don’t hate podcasts but there are entirely too many of them started by people who love their own voices too much

[@murshinlol3895]

"we need to ban podcasts" bro starts a podcast a few months later 😭😭

[@simsina]

As a millenial watching this video, I never felt older 🤣 until I figured out that you're a millenial, too. I mean, you're making Shane Dawson video and I'm watching it 😂 Yeah, I noticed that at some point people start doing the "these kids nowadays" and it's honestly silly to me. As if the same thing wasn't said about them only 5 years ago and same for generation before and the one before, and before and on and on it goes. Generalizing, the thing is that it can be very frustrating for younger generations no matter which generation it is at whatever point in time. It's simply because younger generations are introducing something new. Without generalizing, there are all kind of people everywhere, regardless of the age group or anything else really. And I feel like that's the part that matters. These dangerous groups tend to thrive of of separating people bc, in reality, they have nothing else to offer. Aka, making people feel special without any valuable reason which is not really very healthy. This environment where you don't need to work on yourself, but instead are special bc you were born a certain way doesn't for example build up confidence, instead it creates superiority complex. At some point, people will realize that they do in fact live just like everyone else and will need to justify it, usually by find someone else to blaim. We might be in 2022., but apparently, looking in the mirror is still one of the hardest things to do regardless of it being the most effective. Back in the early 2010s, I would have never guessed that 10 years later, one of the ways would be through dumb online theories. Now, I kind of understand why. You're special, the theories are intriguing and it makes you feel inquisitive, a lot of theories explain why your life is not the way you want it and it's never about taking responsibility, there is also a community around it, so you might feel accepted, you feel like you are doing sth important... When all logic leaves the building, people apparently strive for community and approval. Which brings me to the beginning - separating people. So, yeah, let's not do that 😅

[@angiepangie9106]

man bad take, idk weird generalisations on generations. i’m genZ (with adhd and no attention span mind you) and i need long form content to function (in the background so i can do other tasks without losing focus) and i don’t think most millennial‘s are how you described them, sure maybe some of shane’s og millennial fans are there but i think it’s mostly young people (so younger genZ) who haven’t quite figured themselves out yet. seems like you’re trying to hard to detach yourself from millennials when like you said you’re right on the cusp. lots of them are probably more like you than most genZ

[@maddyline5797]

Ah yes, I just love when people use phrases aggressively like "raw-doggin it" and "going in bareback" to show how they are unapologetically going to do what they want. Both of those terms are for unprotected sex, but the way it is being used is to show it is **unwanted** unprotected sex, which in no way I think they mean, but bc they don't care or listen when other ppl talk bc they are so certain of their victimhood. I'm tired.

[@project.protagonist]

As a millennial, all of your observations struck head-on BUT the main reason why I watch your channel is because I actually use it as background noise, making it to me no different than a podcast sooooo..

[@fauxsorcier]

12:20 "... above the age of 25" Gen Z stars in 96, the older Gen Z'ers are 26 this year. Just needed to point out that mild annoyance.

[@nerium.nerium]

12:37 Fraser, you are lumping two generations that are generally REALLY different in their experiences and beliefs... there's also a whole other generation between them, Gen X. 😂

[@Pixie_Logic]

It's because he knows all of us gen X ancients are dead inside 😂😂😂😂 Also beans.

[@nerium.nerium]

@@Pixie_Logic oh yeah, I know how gen x is generally dead inside lol. But for real this lumping millenials with boomers is just... what

[@juno3281]

i think the point was that old people don’t like the younger generations, which is glaringly obvious lmao- it’s less of a specific generation thing and just old people being obsessed with kids

[@nerium.nerium]

@@juno3281 if he meant it to be that he wouldn't have singled out millenials, which are barely middle-aged at this point

[@Pixie_Logic]

@@juno3281 I don't think that was the point. I think he specified millenials because Shane is one & it makes sense that most of his fanbase would be from that generation. It was funny that he grouped millenials & boomers together & forgot about gen X but most people do, we are the forgotten middle child 😭😭😭😭

[@Candy26262]

You know it’s bad when your first reaction to this video is “oh god what is he doing now??” Can’t wait to see what’s going on!

[@ghostedoh4940]

Attempt two! Shane’s stupidity stopped it from uploading the first time 🥺

[@twinkletwinklelittlebat]

FACTS!!!!!

[@jessk9523]

I’m like 2 months older than you Fraser and we’re definitely like millennial cuspers/oldest Gen Z. Don’t know why you’re trying to separate yourself from millennials so much. A lot of millennial and Gen z content is intermixed. Also Boomers and Millennials are two generations apart, they really aren’t that similar. And the irony is I think the younger people will keep his content alive. I don’t know a single millennial who still likes Shane.

[@henrymarenth8645]

Wasn't it always the thing where boomers hated millennials? I'm a millennial, 33, and I agree it seems like he's distancing himself. It just makes me hate falling under the title honestly. There's so much negativity blasted this way when it's not necessary.

[@Beelzebubby91]

*Good Millennial Podcast List:* ✨Sweet Boys by Andrew Siwicki & Garrett Watts 🌈 The Bald & The Beautiful by Trixie Mattel & Katya Zamolodchikova ✨The Official Podcast by Jackson, Andrew, Charlie & Kaya ✨This Paranormal Life by Rory Powers & Kit Grier ✨True Crime with Kendall Rae ✨Tiny Meat Gang by Cody Ko & Noel Miller ✨ Therapy Gecko

[@hedgie_doll2314]

The only podcast I listen to is trash taste and I think that's because they talk about so many things quickly. Even if it were a creator I like, I would not be able to sit through most podcasts though that could be just me. Shane sucks and I didn't know he had a brother but I don't doubt he sucks as well. In a way I feel bad for them, they obviously had some messed up childhoods, but that doesn't excuse Shane's unchanged behavior. It's not entirely your fault if you were raised poorly or have childhood trauma that has caused some of thease things, it is your fault if you don't change when you are given the chance to change. Ngl tho the couches they are all sitting on look very cozy

[@xertz_346]

I was about to comment the same thing lol. i also only watch trash taste purely because i find many other podcasts to be boring and copy/pasted. Its also why i can watch commentary videos that go on for hours because there is a focused topic i can focus on rathwr than boring conversation.

[@crazystar888777]

I’m not saying this as a fan of you or Shane or anyone but I’m gonna be honest. This is a bad take and I’m not even a millennial, I’m elder Gen Z.

[@aleesiauh]

He's 25. He's more of a millennial than a Gen Z'er

[@crazystar888777]

@@aleesiauh yeah I was thinking he’s a millennial but then he’s also making fun of himself in the process and the video makes it look like he doesn’t realise that 😬

[@NSLuna]

Ok, I agree on almost everything... but why the age shaming? I'm a milleniall and I'm not anti-semitic, a flat earther or a Shane's fan. Love podcasts tho

[@CherriWhitewing]

Fraser, my dude, I love you but try to not push so much of that generationnal divide thing with Millenial and GenZ because from my experience, a lot of the people who stuck with Shane are a healthy mix of Millenial who grew up with him and stuck and GenZ who discovered him with his spooky conspiracy stuff. I think you'd be actually surprised how many young people still follow/support him. Also, try to not disparage the term woke too much since it was an AAVE term that originated in black community to denote awareness of the sopolitical issues that affected the black community. I know that like a lot of terms/words, like triggered for example, it has been kinda ruined online but do be careful when you say thing like you don't like that word because it can kinda come off as dismissive of what is basically and appropriated term. Just wanted to point it out! As for Shane: No Rylan, the issue isn't just with Shane pissing in bottles. Like I get it, if I was a guy on a long road trip stuck in my car I'd do it too as an EMERGENCY thing. The issue is that your fiance is a grown ass man, pissing in bottles everywhere, in the car during normal ride, in your bedroom, around your house and him leaving them lying around EVERYWHERE and letting your friends touch/smell them because it's "funny" because, apparently, being gross and a slob is a quirky personality trait for the both of you. Like, it's actually disgusting how casual you all are about it. It's not normal, not every man does it to that extend. And yeah, Shane's brother is giving off some really bad vibes and red flags here with promoting flat earthers and reptilian conspiracy theories, both who are either full of/based on antisemetism. It ain't a good look is what I'm saying.

[@KeegAnimates]

Funny, I could have sworn we told this man to stay off the internet...

[@annakev8088]

He’d probably tell us it must’ve been the Mandela Effect

[@slurm-enjoyer]

fucking sickening not only is he making us hear his voice on podcast he is then uploading the visual as well. assaulting us on all fronts

[@kimberlythefairy]

LMAAAAOOOOO pllssss😭😭😭💀💀💀💀

[@clorby22]

Underrated comment ⭐️

[@Terminallyposessed]

Gurllll frrr 🤣

[@sporer_]

we're reaching that cut off point where the ppl who complain about the prevalence of podcasts are worse than the pods themselves. we get it, no one likes podcasts except the throngs of people who have them and the throngs and throngs and throngs of ppl who listen to them. at the very least, we gotta freshen up the jokes if we're going to keep makin them! (edit to fix fresh to freshen)

[@katiekay4516]

As someone who apparently falls into the so called “zillenial” category. This whole Gen Z and Millenial thing is just laughable to me. The media ran out of content to pit “Boomers” and “Millenials” against each other. So the concept of “Gen Z” was born. But here’s the thing...Gen Z are not young enough to be Millenials kids, whereas Millenials are young enough to be Boomers kids. Hence they are the next generation. Gen Z are literally not the next generation. So it makes no sense as a conceit. It’s just a way for the media to profit off teenage/young adult angst. Can we please drop the Gen Z thing? I say this as someone who is bang in the middle. It’s like ironically a generation that bangs on about not being in a box and standing out just love this made up “Gen Z” concept and speak about Millenials as though they’re boomers when most Millenials are only a few years older than this made up Gen Z concept. Even you’re guilty of doing this here. Speaking about Millenials as though they’re boomers, when most of us barely left uni.

[@mollymoon7774]

What do you mean Gen Z is made up? I'm 21, making me Gen Z and my mom was born in 1981, making her on the border of Gen X and Millennial. Most people consider her millenial.

[@riina___]

You know there is a generation X between boomers and millennials? They just don't stick out enough to meme lol

[@user-ce9xe1qe8i]

@@mollymoon7774 I think that people talking about how different gen z and Millennials are is stupid. I'm in my 20s and gen z is literally just a few years behind me. There is basically no difference in our lives so people who talk about the two generations like there is such a big difference are ridiculous

[@carmen-monoxide2955]

Jared actually seems like the most skeptical when Shane throws out his conspiracies on the podcast

[@Lemoncakelover678]

He's already dangerous enough just coming on KZbin, let alone what content he's now making

[@melpot4296]

You know he named that old podcast “shane and friends” so nobody could find the ACTUAL original “shane and friends” skit videos he made WAY back in the day. It had him playing several of his characters and saying weird disgusting things. I remember there was shanaynay, paris hilton, shawn, and a lot of the other characters he dressed up as, theyre probably mostly gone now but its hard to find since his podcast has the EXACT SAME NAME. I remember the channel was on shanesawsontv2 which i think is completely erased from the internet.

[@innereast]

Very nice of you to tackle intergenerational conflict by.... Perpetuating it 😬

[@ronywillcox6911]

is anyone else gonna say that his intro card signature looks like he wrote it in mspaint? like ur telling me you can get a whole set but cant hire a graphic designer to make a nice card for you? or at least do it yourself? that signature looks like the FIRST thing you see when you click on the thing. and it is. its done in mspaint. what.

[@theshape3988]

Why ban podcasts? You don't have to listen to any of them dude. Your videos are a podcast in video format. Bc you speak your thoughts and talk I'm a microphone lol

[@Navetsification]

As a millennial (Gen Y) that likes listening to crime podcasts when I exercise, didn't realise listening to podcasts makes me old, haha. But yeah, definitely not a fan of Shane Dawson, and couldn't care less that he has a podcast or whatever else he is doing

[@UdonNerdle]

Doesn’t make you old. I’m technically gen z but on the edge of it. I used to dislike them because of the influencers and like “alpha” men that did them but I got into crime podcasts and stuff like old gods of Appalachia. They’re nice for relaxing and multitasking. I think it’s like enjoying reading and stuff it’s not for everyone 🤷‍♀️

[@noodlepoodle3582]

@@UdonNerdle OMG Old Gods is so good! I need to catch up with the new season. The whole "Gen Z don't do longform content" thing was so weird. I did not listen to all 200 episodes of The Magnus Archives in 2 months to be called out by a youtuber from the Vine generation 😭

[@UdonNerdle]

@@noodlepoodle3582 bahaha yes! Same. And almost every gen Z I know listens to podcasts as well haha

[@noodlepoodle3582]

@@UdonNerdle I just realised how similar our usernames are! But yeah, most of the podcasts I've really enjoyed were recommended to me by younger GenZs, meanwhile my parents chide me for always recommending shows that are "too long" xD

[@kino9643]

I think you underestimate the amount of gen zs that are willing to watch long form content, it just has to be something we're interested in (especially for ND gen z) eg. I watched an hour long video essay by sideways about why the cats musical didn't work from the shot process, plot, to the actual music

[@noelle-p7m]

i recommend quinton reviews if you’re getting into longer form content. the victorious/icarly ones are my favorite