EXPLAINED: Garmin PacePro for Fenix 6 and Forerunner 245!!!

[@shanebow]

Press **Subscribe** if the video is helpful. Plenty more videos coming for you and it really helps my channel grow. So cheers 👍🏃 Thanks so much for watching everyone, I really appreciate it!!! 😎🏃👍

[@waynep1042]

FX lol

[@aurosish1]

Hi Shan, Thanks for the info about PacePro and all other videos about Forerunner 245. Frankly, you are doing a better job than Garmin itself in explaining the great features that Forerunner 245 has. Keep doing..

[@shanebow]

Thanks for these awesome comments!😎

[@olaflally7713]

Thanks a million for this review, I was struggle with my Apple Watch 6 for accuracy, especially for my pace consistency and wanted to go for a Garmin, had no idea, which one. When I saw this video on pace pro, I realized this is exactly what I needed (a garmin with pace pro). So I purchased a 245 non music and I went from 2 failed sub 3:30 marathon attempt (3:36 PB with a plus or minus 1min range per Km) to hitting 3:29:55 with a +\-10 seconds per km range for the whole race. (Note: Race pacers cancelled due to covid so completely on my own steam). Thanks a million Shanebow and Garmin! Pace Pro is a super feature.

[@porsche944shenanigans3]

Just wanted to come back here and thank you again for this and all your videos. I ran my Half this morning and killed my record by 10MINS!!. I even corrected an over-zealous pacer who was running almost 6 minutes ahead of his 2:00:00 pace - HAHA. SB You the best Compa!! new half PR/PB 1:58:05. 1:45:00 I'm coming for you!! Have a great one!!

[@shanebow]

That's smashing it!!!! A massive improvement. What will you do now to better yourself again?! 😎👍😎

[@porsche944shenanigans3]

@@shanebow I just started a new routine (January) Run/Cycle/Elliptical/Rest. It seems to be working. PacePro is just one more tool added to my arsenal or weapons - HAHA. For my RUn days I either do a FAST 5K or a 6-8M tempo run. for Cycling I do 15 miles on a trainer unless it falls on the weekend. If it does then I go for a 40 miler minimum. Elliptical I just make sure my heart rate stays mid-top of my Zone 4 (1hr session). Going to do this for 6 months and tweak it little by little. However, without good tech it's hard to monitor. YOU (SB) helped me decide on the 245M, customize it's screen and now "the icing on the cake" Pace Pro. Owe you a lot buddy.

[@shanebow]

Your comments pay me back! Keep smashing it!

[@kennyhong99]

Awesome video Shane! Very detailed instructions on both how to set it up on the App and also the Watch view. I will wait for the feature to be generally available before updating it into my 245 for stability. :) Keep the great videos coming.

[@shanebow]

Thanks again Kenny! Good shout on the stability.

[@porsche944shenanigans3]

SB You are the man!! Been using my 245M (ever since you recommended the unit) for about 8 months now and I never noticed this feature added. I've been setting DATA fields and Alerts to achieve what this little feature does. Running a half this weekend and looking forward to using PacePro. PR here I come. Keep Posting Buddy Keep those vids coming!!!!

[@shanebow]

Go smash it!!!!

[@mpgrewal00]

Good work on going out and showing us how it fares in real life.

[@shanebow]

Cheers for that! Hope the running goes well 😎👍😎

[@kierenkd]

I love that you show what it looks like on the run. It annoys me that garmin doesn't have a test mode or screenshots on their website so you can see screens before you run. I just finished the 5K adaptive plan (coach Greg) and missed the 22:00 target as my pacing was off. A shame the race screen what not the same screen we get for training with the red-green-red pacing help dial.

[@shanebow]

Cheers for the comments. 😎 Keep smashing your goals!

[@tammyschilling5362]

This was very helpful. Your video showing what the watch actually does during a run was especially helpful. I'm getting ready for my first 25K and as a slower runner I'm freaking out about being able to do make the time cut off. I'm three weeks out and am going to use my long run this weekend to test this pace pro and make sure I can actually do the distance in the time I need to make. Basically, a tune up race, by myself. Thanks again.

[@scratchandwinner]

Pacepro helped me take over 2 minutes off my personal best.... I love it.

[@shanebow]

That's awesome! Keep pushing

[@scratchandwinner]

@@shanebow that's in the 5K race distance... Thank you, I will keep pushing.

[@testtube1020]

Great video! You really explain the use of pacepro in a clear way. Thanks Shan!

[@shanebow]

Cheers Maurice. I appreciate that 👍😎

[@gbpages55]

Great video. Have a race in a couple days and hadn't got a chance to try this before the race so you really helped clarify this feature!

[@contactMW]

Great explanation and demo Shane, just got the Forerunner 255 and still applicable - going to test it for real in 2 weeks 🏃‍♂️

[@markoljustina]

What about 255 do you like it? What is the current pace?

[@contactMW]

@@markoljustina I like how you can design the screens directly on the watch and there's plenty of space, very readable in the sun 🌞 current pace, well just did a very hilly 10 miler at AVG 04:40 pace helped by PacePro, designed it to be faster at the start and breaks the race up into smaller chunks when the elevation changes 👍 I got a 90s PB so really helped me 🙌

[@markoljustina]

@@contactMW ok😀

[@Themata]

Very informative, thanks. The only downside is now the decision on what to buy (VA4 vs FR245m) is even *more* difficult NB: 999 subs!

[@shanebow]

Cheers Veg! I agree with you! 999 it's been really great watching it tick over to 1,000 this week. I really never expected this. I would have been happy with 50 at this point

[@mikegatlin1ify]

Just the information I needed! Thanks for the video buddy!

[@shanebow]

Cheers for the comments Mike. Glad it's helped you!! 😎

[@Rick999888]

Great video dude. Subscribed. (Fenix 6 owner here and i think I can just go direct via watch to set it up, i think!)

[@shanebow]

You're clearly awesome!!! Cheers Rickard 😎

[@rustybaws]

Nice. I had something similar on my old Polar. Very easy to set up through the app now, will try this on my next run. Cheers.

[@shanebow]

Cheers Rusty for the comments! Enjoy the run mate

[@jasonmartin9306]

Hey, this is a great video! Thank you - explained exactly what I needed. Nice work.

[@mitica940]

Thanks Shan ! Now I know exactly how Pace Pro works !

[@Indasaid]

Thanks for this video, new subscriber. Will try pace pro on my FR 945 tomorrow. Next want to check out your data trim video 👍🏼

[@shanebow]

Thanks loads for your comments. So glad you enjoy the video

[@davegill7830]

Great input, now I fully understand it. Brilliant.

[@thisandthat176]

Finally I got it. Thanks!

[@banhongang7818]

Great video.. continue ur hardwork!

[@shanebow]

Cheers for that. Really appreciated

[@martinleat8319]

Nice and simplistic,easy to follow.Thankyou 👍🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️

[@shanebow]

Cheers Martin!!

[@karensibley2485]

Great video, now can you show us how to set it up for a particular route. Is it possible to use a previous run and set that up as a course for the pace pro?

[@olaflally7713]

Excellent demo thank you!!

[@JRsReviews]

Nice Video Shane

[@shanebow]

You're very kind! Your comments mean a lot!

[@gabelaflame]

Awesome video! Planning to use this for my (virtual) Marathon next week. I am wondering how it would work with the variance between what the course is and where I actually am... For example, if I started a PacePro and ran off the course, what would happen?

[@shanebow]

It'll still record your run it as if pace pro was off. You can always cycle to another screen if it was annoying you. I'd go try it out before your marathon starts so you know what it does and you're not doing anything new. Thanks for your comments.... Now Go smash that Virtual Marathon 😎👍💪

[@matinadigbasani8057]

Thank you for your great video. Please can you explain how to delete a pace Pro plan from the watch. By mistake I have more than one paceproprlans of the same race. I have Garmin 245. Thank you Shan.

[@kevinslattery7647]

I think this is awesome. Do you think that this will be available on the FR45? I was torn between the 45 and 245 but opted for the cheaper one as I had only been running seriously for a couple of months. I still love my watch and it saw me through my first half marathon in a great time (for me - 2:07) 😊 Thanks for the brilliant videos, they have really helped me too!

[@shanebow]

Hey Kevin, that's a really respectable half marathon time! Congratulations!!! Will it be on the 45? I'm a real optimistic guy but I hate to say I don't think it will be. The 45 is still an awesome watch! Thanks for your comments and good luck on your next half marathon

[@csteacher7796]

PacePro seems to be part of a recent update as I have not installed the beta version but I used it on my 245 this morning. Thanks for the info on how to use it. Creating your own course with the editor is problematic when trying to follow a park path for a Parkrun especially when you need to do three laps with slight alterations at the start and end. Do you know if you can create the route whilst running/walking the route?

[@timshields8720]

Great video mate and love what you are doing. Any idea when this will go out of Beta mode and come standard with the 245?

[@shanebow]

Tim, thanks pal! 😎😊 I've seen nothing yet. I think it will just drop. If I do see anything I will update this thread. Cheers again mate!!!

[@timshields8720]

@@shanebow the nano second this becomes standard I'll be upgrading to the 245 for sure. Cheers.

[@blazejp2854]

Since it's in beta is it available to everyone on the 245?

[@joseeduardotschen9186]

Excellent feature, just what I need! Do you think it will be available in the Venu?

[@shanebow]

It's a great question and I have reason to believe yes and no. Only time will tell.

[@ajitbabu241]

Thank you, Shanebow🙏. Does FR 45 have this feature?

[@alexblomley2282]

Hi. Really useful video - thanks. Pace Pro looks brilliant, and I'd love to be able to use it. I've got the Garmin Fenix 5s Plus though... Is there any way of getting it on my watch?

[@shanebow]

Thanks. Not that I'm aware of sorry :(

[@alexblomley2282]

@@shanebow no worries dude. Thanks anyway.

[@SunnyCurwenator]

...good Pace Pro detailed review; my one question is when you set up a course in Garmin - or download one previously created, and create a Pace Pro for it, how do you know where to start? Does Pace Pro guide you in to the right point? I guess you could be 10 metres off or more which would mean more time to make up on the course? Is that right?

[@shanebow]

An arrow comes up and points you to the start. Enjoy 👍😎🏃

[@SunnyCurwenator]

@@shanebow ...ah cool, going to use it on today's run 👍

[@301860102]

Great video Shanebow. where can i see when iam finish. so i can see compere the result.?? kind Regard . René from Denmark

[@shanebow]

Thanks René!!! The run will sync to your phone like a normal run and you can view it no problem. Just stop the run on your watch as usual. Have fun! 😎

[@igorbazhenov1115]

Thank you for help!

[@lanternofthegreen]

I was stuck between getting an 245 or 645 but after this I think I made up mind. It is possible that this feature may come to also 645 but meeeh, they are not very different anyway. I’ll get an 245.... as soon as I have enough money for it. Also, gotta admit that it is pretty strange to see someone in UK using miles for pace :D

[@shanebow]

I think that's the right choice. My friends here are 50/50, some use Kms some use miles. Cheers for your comments 😎

[@PavloVoznenko]

Be aware that with release 4.60 for 245, Garmin hides feature under Training section of the Run - took me awhile to find it.

[@shanebow]

It's a great point! I've pinned your comment!

[@tyreeceuk]

Good video bro

[@chesshead]

Is the PacePro feature still only available on the 245 through the Garmin app?

[@2011Brooksie]

Hi, Thank you for your amazing videos. Can I set my Garmin 246 music for a voice announcement every 1k?

[@RockyBalbonya]

Will pacepro adjust your paces to meet your goal time if you fall off your pace for a split?

[@bonesbreakerSTEP]

Everything is fine but what to do when my run differs from my proper course and PacePro is showing me wrong time, distance and tempo? For instance I plan a course ( 16.3km) and run exactly the same path and end up at 16.05 km . The whole time pacepro was showing me the distance adjust to the course but not to a proper run? How to make it to be more specific?

[@danielraphael6667]

Can you combine this with the course navigation?

[@SMclintosh]

So can you start the pacer part way through a workout? Say I want to do a 10 min warm up, followed by a 5k max effort and a 10 min cool down? Or do I just have to do Three separate workouts for that?

[@Ypres02]

Can pace pro provide audio cues or do you need to look at the screen?

[@TheJohnnybelfast]

Will it do audio cues if I drop below my planned pace ?

[@JuniorBattle23]

If you're running on automatically created course does it show you your next turn or small map? I am getting Garmin 245 and not sure if I'll need to take my phone with you to use PacePro with course. Thanks

[@shanebow]

No turns on a map unfortunately. You won't need your phone for pace pro though. The watch has GPS built in. Enjoy your runs!! 😎👍

[@k8nno]

If you fall behind on one of your splits, does the watch then adapt the remaining splits to get you back on track?

[@shanebow]

Hey Paul. No it doesn't, it shows at the bottom of the screen how far behind you are though so you could pick up the pace if you wanted to. 😎

[@jorgepereira6067]

Hi Shan, great video! Only one question: On the race, when pacepro changes the rhythm, does the 245 and fenix 6 vibrates/give some heads-up for the change? Or do you have to check the pulse every 5 seconds! Thank you and keep going!

[@shanebow]

Thanks for the comments Jorge 😎. It vibrates and beeps, to be fair it's something that I should have said on the video.

[@Robbie..67]

Hi mate I've downloaded the beta files but have no idea how to install on to my 245..the installation instructions make no sense to me 😬 what did you download it on...I'm using a macbook!

[@shanebow]

You have to plug the watch in with usb. And drag over some files to replace others. Just make sure you don't download 245 music ones by mistake as it won't work. Definitely follow the instructions to the letter as I'd hate to hear that you broke your watch 😎

[@mjowsey]

thumbs up

[@stephanvogel9734]

I see how PacePro could be used for guidance in a run, where you want to speed up continuously, as you have shown in your test run. Of course, for a flat marathon, the best strategy is to run as evenly as possible. And for this you don't need PacePro, the virtual training partner (or whatever the feature is called) will just do the trick. However, the real use of PacePro would be when you are out on a hilly course, with steep climbs and decents. Unfortunately, for this PacePro is utterly useless as the split paces calculated by PacePro are unrealistic and completely at odds with what has been reported in the scientific literature, what Strava did with their grade adjusted pace study based on the data uploaded by its users, or what anyone, who has ever been in the mountains knows from experience. I was excited to use PacePro in my ultra and trail runs, but it has been a total disappointment.

[@retselisehilemosoeu7341]

I'm using fenix 6 sapphire and when i try to upload the pace pro on it, it says not compatible... So may you guide me on this one to how i can use the pace pro on my fenix 6 sapphire

[@shanebow]

There is no reason it shouldn't work that I'm aware of. The best action would be to ensure the software is updated and if it still doesn't work contact Garmin support

[@retselisehilemosoeu7341]

Shanebow - Running & Tech I wish I could sent you the picture but what I’ll do is try reset it tomorrow and try using the usb to upload it then I’ll give you the feedback

[@retselisehilemosoeu7341]

Shanebow - Running & Tech unless it’s because of my region which is in Africa down in South Africa

[@Keeacer]

I'd rather the watch stopped when the plan was finished

[@osmirod1]

Soooooooooo long of a video. I wish you would have gotten to the point