Shimano thought their crank problems were the limit of their problems and now magene moves the bar up several notches
@nochancecw4 ай бұрын
I love when I'm browsing the Internet and I see your comments pop up chirping Shimano out of the blue...glad to see the pen is working. 😂
@Pragmatist1014 ай бұрын
And MAGENE making a RIM BRAKE version.....again offering what people want not what BIG manufacturers dictate!
@bonbonflippers42984 ай бұрын
@Pragmatist101 holy shiii they making rim brake version?
@87togabito4 ай бұрын
@@Pragmatist101and which “people” again may I ask? The ones that still ride their 1900s steel bike and don’t spend a single cent on new parts? Look, I share your enthusiasm for cheap electronic shifting alternatives. But let’s be realistic, because rim brakes sales don’t make up enough to actually make it viable for the post pandemic cycling audience.
@marcopaganotto91254 ай бұрын
I remember the days when you purchased Shimano's products safe in the knowledge that your new item was high quality, durable and functional, a genuine investment in your ride! Sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case anymore! Just remember how lovely Shimano's 9 speed XT drivetrain shifted, not to mention how long it lasted and then compare it to the crunching, grinding and horrifyingly noisy current XT 12 speed system. It really feels like the quality has gone, it's almost like Shimano has become SRAM 15 years ago.
@simonsaville99624 ай бұрын
Like the intense "gallon o' coffee" presentation style! Magene coming up with the goods, again. Take my money already.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Hahhaa... I was so pumped for all the cool stuff, I didn't even notice I was at eminem-speeds.
@ericsyd4 ай бұрын
I found it tiring.
@workshopninjathe1st4 ай бұрын
I’m here to say it’s tiring too - but have done bike shows in London and you do need the coffee :)
@TheVagom154 ай бұрын
Why you speak so fast? Sounds like you are aways in a hurry!
@hddd15024 ай бұрын
i can’t wait for panda podium to carry the magene rim brake grouppo
@bonbonflippers42984 ай бұрын
Same! That's a market that if done right will make loads of money
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
We have some exciting rim brake frames coming too....
@fuckthediscbrake4 ай бұрын
Wow WoW wowwwwww @@ChinaCycling
@jimbo90304 ай бұрын
Finally a Chinese electronic TT group. Now that is a game changer. Well done LTwoo
@coolhand19664 ай бұрын
speed is a hell of a drug
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
So. Much. Sugar.
@janmynarik4 ай бұрын
I would never spend $10k on an aero frame, I have more sense than that… Yeah I remember spending 10k on aero frame…
@velanrama4 ай бұрын
The presentation was exciting, the presenter was excited, now I am excited. Happy that Magene are really improving and expanding.
@iberiksoderblom4 ай бұрын
Rimbrake and wireless shifting! Take my money!
@jayeoliver92594 ай бұрын
Hell yeah!
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Let's gooooo!
@pigupigu4 ай бұрын
Shimano does rim brake wireless shifting. Ultegra and dura ace di2
@michaelbauer87784 ай бұрын
Wireless isn’t something new and special, isn’t?
@TC-ik9kn4 ай бұрын
SRAM red etap 11s ( rim brake version) 6years ago ? Or so ?
@prrace85994 ай бұрын
FINALLY! Some TT and Tri equipment! So happy to see these on your channel from the bike show
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it! I don't know what I'm talking about... but... it all looked rapid.
@grok764 ай бұрын
@@ChinaCycling I need it now! Just building my Tri bike, stealing parts from my Di2 roadie.
@samguan52364 ай бұрын
Great to see more groupset options… I think electronic groupsets may be easier/cheaper to get right/make as I think mechanical shifting requires more component precision in the entire system.
@veganpotterthevegan4 ай бұрын
I don't think either is difficult for a modestly competent engineer since we have computer modeling to make it easier. The real issue is patents and keeping things as simple as possible while avoiding patent infringement
@jimsonjohnson37614 ай бұрын
All depends. If they can provide correctional software and reliable electronics that last then maybe.
@durianriders4 ай бұрын
CC going eminem full sugar mode. Great reporting brother!
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
CTFU from day one homie.
@stuartdryer13524 ай бұрын
I really like my Magene power meter. This is interesting news.
@dustyhoods4 ай бұрын
You've got a camera man! Great show 👌
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Yeah, first day on the job and i messed up the lens adapter so he doesnt even have auto-focus... poor guy.
@ynslife4 ай бұрын
Okay this was exciting to see. Magene is making gigachad moves here. Great one Joe!
@neilwheel4 ай бұрын
Good work Joe! 👏👏👏👏👏
@pierrex32264 ай бұрын
2 of my 5 L-TWOO er9 rear derailleur died for no reason, hopefully they will start releasing products that aren't beta over time. Currently their electronic groups are beta releases at best.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Yeah, my early experience with L-TWOO electronic is well documented on this channel... all my most recent stuff (last 6 months) is all stable though...
@pierrex32264 ай бұрын
@@ChinaCycling good to know. I bought mine in the summer of 2023. I'm waiting for the replacements now, I hope they will work. I really do want them to work, I'm really loving the one on my road bike, one that hasn't died.
@JohnDir-xw3hf4 ай бұрын
Chinese junk. Stop wasting money on it.
@colecoleman14994 ай бұрын
Exactly I would consider buying Chinese groupsets atleast after 5 years. They will be like AMD z kicking intel in the ass. Shimano in this case
@elyipierre22842 ай бұрын
I haven't had any issues with my L-Twoo group set. I've put about 5,000 miles and have had it close to a year now
@dylanl95324 ай бұрын
I met you at the show on this day. I'm the guy with uneven q factor problem with the cranks. Thanks for the water bottle. TBH, your video is better than the Shanghai bike show itself. I'm pretty sure that most brands on display at the show don't really exist. They are there to sell their manufacturing capability rather than their own branded bikes. You don't see these bikes on the road ever. And you cannot buy these bikes from anywhere.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'd rather watch a video about the bike show than come to the bike show... lol.
@keikeimama4 ай бұрын
The design and performance of the seka "spear" is amazing. I can't wait to ride it.
@abcdefghijk50954 ай бұрын
Very impressed with the bikes and components on display in China. Very impressed. Going to check out a few of the manufactures for sure.
@johnnycab89863 ай бұрын
The Chinese designers are making much more exciting stuff than Western brands these days it seems.
@loonation21854 ай бұрын
600g frames is crazy
@ScrubsIsee4 ай бұрын
Yeah. But will it last also?
@climberevan4 ай бұрын
My 2018 Trek Emonda frame is under 700g, so it's just a further evolution. That one also looked like a pretty small size...
@drewstice38974 ай бұрын
Thanks Joe!! I love watching your videos especially the bike shows you were why I built my bike with a frame and parts from china
@galenkehler4 ай бұрын
My word, this is an absolutely packed video. Lots.of cool things on the horizon
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
It's bananas. This is also only half the footage of day 1....
@TheArniec914 ай бұрын
Those seka bottle cages look an awful lot like giant cages
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Someone else told me they looked like the BMC ones... now I"m curious if BMC or GIANT did it first...?
@TheArniec914 ай бұрын
@@ChinaCycling no idea who did it first but they're great looking cages!
@BS16Tech4 ай бұрын
@@ChinaCycling bmc
@drewstice38974 ай бұрын
As a triathlete I am super excited to see the LTWOO ERX tt groupset
@prrace85994 ай бұрын
I’m right there with you! I’d love to see a TT/ Tri super bike version with the LTwoo electric gearing and aero shifters with deep section wheels and power meter to compare it to the big brands.
@malcontent_14 ай бұрын
Well done, Joe
@thomasrobin84314 ай бұрын
Seka Spears looks really interesting 🤔 (and Exceed too). I hope you'll try it someday and gives us a review of it 👍
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Just screen-shotting this comment and sending it to SEKA now...
@zhuyufan11864 ай бұрын
finally,i have been waiting for this video for the entire night.
@ed00784 ай бұрын
Really?
@DannysMyNanny4 ай бұрын
really hope these chinese groupsets start seeing mainstream success in the US! Good competition is good for all consumers
@philippbeckonert16784 ай бұрын
: I just love your energy. This is totally your thing and it shows!
@lukewalker10514 ай бұрын
Your are a talented presenter Joe. Thank you.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Getting better show by show I guess
@dainiusvysniauskas20494 ай бұрын
Farsports Hyper is still their best wheelset IMO - choice of multiple hub and spokes options, 30mm external width, 24mm internal - just great all around.
@nickbanham87504 ай бұрын
Brilliant report. Thanks! Looking forward for tomorrow’s video.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to it, my legs aren't...
@daviddjerassi4 ай бұрын
OMG Joe how you can keep going at that speed man you just amaze me thank you for a great video back tomorrow see you then keep safe love the video.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Adrenaline, and dozens of pairs of eyes staring at you when you're on the stand.
@daviddjerassi4 ай бұрын
@@ChinaCycling well you are sure doing a fantastic job Sir.
@hucklejoko48384 ай бұрын
Magene is just killing it! But I just got my PES Base last month and I want that pedal based one grrrrr
@randomname84424 ай бұрын
More info on the SYB Ti please!
@mattrolls17654 ай бұрын
Crazy prices for bikes......out of head !
@LouisArquivio4 ай бұрын
Couldn't find anything online about SYB / Laget, do they have a website?
@global_nomad.4 ай бұрын
thanks for the overview.....looking forward to seeing how some of these new frames/groupsets do in ride reviews.
@darickyeong55614 ай бұрын
Always liked Magene stuff, even excited when they demo out QED P515
@jempanuncialman93614 ай бұрын
This is better than GCN
@rogersliu12004 ай бұрын
this is the year of chinese TT bike frame tech. great to see so many affordable TT options there. Maybe you should do some TT build😃
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Good idea!
@lordalfa6004 ай бұрын
@@ChinaCycling Yes. TT! I like the Pardus setup. I am not trialing in UCI events so I don't care about the extensions and so on and so forth. Just like hill climbing, there are TT enthusiasts that just ride 10 miles like Leadfoot Larry with no rules on bike dimension restrictions.
@rogersliu12004 ай бұрын
@@ChinaCycling very interested in the elves TT
@oplkfdhgk4 ай бұрын
oh cool. wasn't expecting tt groundset but if it's cheap enough i might buy it.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Yeah, it has me intreagued...
@DanTuber4 ай бұрын
What a show! So many goodies. That stella frame looks like a Trek madone rip off.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
🙈
@invisiblescout63354 ай бұрын
Was pretty set on the bross zenith a month ago (they've confirmed they're selling overseas and will have a webpage up soon), but with the new seka and a possible discount on the van rysel now that I'll be working at decathlon I'm getting really anxious with choices. The magene groupset is a very pleasant surprise, I trust them to sort things out. The ltwoo tt setup is something I was hoping for but didn't really expect. There's an annual 12hr tt organised by my local club so being able to just pop a set of tribars with satellite shifters on my bike is a really attractive possibility. I'd heard of neutron before but never really looked into them. Glad to hear they're actually a farsports brand! 360g for a 24mm spindle at 350$ and 8-bolt mount is getting me excited in all the right places. Much more commonplace than cinch mount and crucially for me, Magene compatible, personally trust them way more than sigey and xcadey (my p505 base has been the dog's bollocks, as a certain somebody would say). Will you be selling these as well?
@A8619673 ай бұрын
Rim brakes 😊 Yea baby yea ❤
@bengt_axle3 ай бұрын
A big thanks to Pandapodium for sponsoring this video, lol.
@MarioKurill4 ай бұрын
Love the content Joe, keep up the good work man! That dyneema gilet looks great, will definitely buy one when its on PP
@kasperpaisa42454 ай бұрын
Stella had no inspiration herself? Bike looks like a Trek Madone
@Carftymk4 ай бұрын
it looks from the side, but there is no hole so that's a huge difference. i was kinda bummed to see it didn't, but there is a chinese frame (sold by airwolf iirc) that is almost a 1:1 copy of the madone with the hole
@Adanteh4 ай бұрын
Frame "inspired" by a Trek Madone. Name taken from a dutch e-bike company
@qwertyazerty21374 ай бұрын
That dyneema gillette looks more like made out of a shopping bag. I am also amazed with how much useless and unnecessary gizmos ( i. E aero bar ends) companies churn out and try to convince you they're worth getting.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Haha, wait until you see the price... ;) ;)
@GNH-18124 ай бұрын
One hell of a show❤❤❤
@GAMeRAchilles4 ай бұрын
That SYB Lagget bike frame.... hot damn that would be a fun bike!
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Not "cheap", but like half / a third of the price of the small boutique western frames doing similar things.
@davidgoon19784 ай бұрын
byd - build your dream syb - suck your bike?😅😅
@jeffreyreed60564 ай бұрын
Great work Joe! I so want to return to Xiamen!
@st3ppenwolf4 ай бұрын
wow, this looks incredible
@ilittleflyingboy4 ай бұрын
Saying hi at the exhibition :)
@MrQuirinus4 ай бұрын
Que bom, tomara que os preços sejam bem melhores mesmo, assim shimano e sram serão marcas famosas mas não exclusivas.
@sempi81594 ай бұрын
Just cutting out parts is called modern design now?
@ed00784 ай бұрын
Right. Bike industry is desperate
@veganpotterthevegan4 ай бұрын
Engineering reliable things has always been related to simplifying them.
@sempi81594 ай бұрын
@@veganpotterthevegan making these cutouts doesn't simplify anything...
@veganpotterthevegan4 ай бұрын
@sempi8159 it does for aerodynamics. No extra deep tubes that need more carbon and costs more money.
@sempi81594 ай бұрын
@@veganpotterthevegan it doesn't change aerodynamics to any useful degree.... A fake test in a windtunnel tells you almost nothing about real world aero..... This is just to stand out and look different... There is no other reason... The elite bike industry is fucked and im glad about it
@iskandarwee47754 ай бұрын
The Magene groupset actually looks good. The shifter shape is similar to 105 Di2. Let's hope the price is competitive, unlike the prices of EDS Tx and Ltwoo ERX, which are too close to the 105 Di2 price.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
I'm hopeful
@majorfibbs79994 ай бұрын
Compact and dense information in 17 Min. Machinegun talk. So far so good. But man, the nerdy outfit is a no-go.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
The words per minute on this one is rivalling some rap videos. Outfits are only gonna get nerdier... sorry not sorry. :) 🤣
@ESKantzi4 ай бұрын
X-LAB rt 9 looks like the aethos
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
XDS (X-Lab is their 'sworks') do lots of OEM for lots of big brands.... 🤐 (But not Specialized...)
@peterwu84714 ай бұрын
Good for you man! I know you from Aston - Awesome to see you succeeding! 60K plus subscribers - nice. (I am Peter W. BTW, formerly from Dandong, now in Dalian)
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
I remember you dude... Crazy small world, haha. Aston was good days, especially the annual conference. ;)
@densyoh4 ай бұрын
Magene is a big player in the wireless tech? 🧐
@emanuelpradera97174 ай бұрын
Great to see more and more alternatives to western bike components, keep up the good work joe, i'd love to see more MTB content though🙏
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Day 3 or 4 I'm gonna focus on MTB content. ;)
@RaymondOlgado04 ай бұрын
RIM BRAKE??? HELL FUCK YES.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
One of us...One of us...One of us...
@aarondcmedia95854 ай бұрын
A suggestion for TT bikes in general: have a look at the disc brake area, that's one of the bug bears for aero. Looks like the Pardus front disc area has a cowl over the caliper, etc? It looks kinda awesome and would have been well worth a 5 second shot of that area of the bike. Front and back but esp front as the air comes in clean and then hits all kinds of turbulence. The only other suggestion is a shot from head on - pointing towards the bike as if you are air about to hit the bike. Always good to see the front profile for aero thoughts. I like the look of the Pardus, thanks for the video. ETA: I just did a search and Pardus tri bikes have been around for 6 years or more?
@simonlynch42044 ай бұрын
Man it sounds like it was loud! You are screaming in the mic! Thanks for the coverage!
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Its very noisy in there, cant hear yourself think.
@inzana24 ай бұрын
Seka Spear seems to be already for sale in Australia for AU$4480 - not cheap but pretty nice.
@allcapitols15544 ай бұрын
7:00~ Super light & only another 20 grams for a seat.
@ianusher26754 ай бұрын
Good job !
@tanqinxiang4 ай бұрын
@14:20 Are they ready to be sued by Trek?
@Bill-qf7tn4 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing us the future!
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Buckle your seatbelt, when this baby hits 88mph, it's gonna be a helluva ride...
@WHTFSayonara4 ай бұрын
Can you visit Bafang, LightCarbon and DengFu booths please? Eager to see what they have especially for the eMTB scene!
@Jlee-46744 ай бұрын
I believe Magene just launched p705 recently. Did you hear the reason why they are releasing new ones so fast??
@vongdong104 ай бұрын
China has all the coolest stuff.
@brasstinmancrazy4 ай бұрын
Would love to see more of the Java aluminium frame
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
I'll head back on day 2 or day 3!
@brasstinmancrazy4 ай бұрын
@@ChinaCycling thank you
@TobiB894 ай бұрын
What about the rapper hands? Always looks like he's about to drop some sick tunes
@juaninsuasty3 ай бұрын
You have the link of the page XDS X-Lab RT9 560g Frame??
@spectre3484 ай бұрын
I have been waiting for the Chinese to make some electronic group sets. They are dominating wheel sets and soon they will dominate group sets. Time Shimano and Sram were given a shake up.
@estelja4 ай бұрын
Curious how that Neutron cassette shifts. Why don't the aftermarket cassette manufacturers just copy the actual HG tooth profiles since the Shimano patent has long ago expired?
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Will be testing it out soon.
@CyclingAlgarvePortugal4 ай бұрын
Just WOW!!!
@friedryce4 ай бұрын
The Magene groupset's look, finish, shape, and button location all look very similar to L-TWOO. I wonder if it's some kind of partnership or if it's bespoke.🤔
@sonicart774 ай бұрын
SEKA bottle cages looks like the Giant Propels'. Just saying.
@czeckson744 ай бұрын
Seapost-battery = Meeeh !
@beautoxt34824 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Sram has patented the battery right by the derailleur's.
@DerekGreen1234 ай бұрын
@@beautoxt3482 If the WheelTop EDS TX is anything to go by, SRAM's patent only covers 'removable' batteries attached to the derailleurs.
@czeckson744 ай бұрын
@@beautoxt3482 SRAM has patent on interchangeable batteries, not on 2 different types like Wheeltop or Campagnolo
@adamcox33174 ай бұрын
Would be great to see Seka frames on Panda Podium. I’ve been considering them for a while but would be awesome to finally have a reliable way of ordering to Europe.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
We're working on it... Fingers crossed...
@openwheelracing884 ай бұрын
Do those new DT hubs only take DT carbon spokes? Or can they use the carbon spokes available on the market today? I see it is laced with 24 spokes vs current offering of 20 spokes.
@bigredactionsportsstuff12454 ай бұрын
That Pardus bike really rustled my jimmies
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Is that a mini-pump in your pocket...?
@yilmanbabilonia4 ай бұрын
Can’t find syb anywhere in google
@edlorenz15524 ай бұрын
Says “wireless” and shows group set with wires???
@nadorcitycommercial4 ай бұрын
Where can I buy a SEKA bike ? Thank you for your Videos
@tomozanne4 ай бұрын
Are Panda Podium going to be stocking the Laget Discovery One? I'd love one of those!
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
What was your favourite thing today? What do you want to see more of? 🤔
@glennicol13614 ай бұрын
I think my favourite thing today... Would be the Bross Zenith, silly name for a bike but the bike looks awesome! Also excited for the Magene power meter pedals. Regret going for a 5K run before attending the show as super tired now!
@ebikescrapper39254 ай бұрын
Gilet for me, more clothing please. Great video.
@thethelostjs4 ай бұрын
e-mtb!!!!!!!
@hddd15024 ай бұрын
magene!
@chrisbustos43584 ай бұрын
That SEKA Spear in the Chronus colorway is fire! Hope @ChinaCyling can distribute them, thinking about those of us in North America.
@alainmalisoux17184 ай бұрын
hi, I'd like to buy the CYBREI Carbon Crankset - Aluminum Chainring w/ Alloy Spider from your Panda Podium shop. Can you tell me if it is compatible with the Shimano 11V mechanical and 12V DI2 groups with the crankset housing BB86 press fit and BB386EVO pressfit 86.5x46mm BB shell? Thank you Alain, from Belgium
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Yes, as long as you use the correct bottom bracket, the chainline should be more or less the same (within 1mm I assume.)
@alainmalisoux17184 ай бұрын
@@ChinaCycling Thank you for the answer. If I understand correctly, to install the CYBREI Carbon Crankset - Aluminum Chainring w/ Alloy Spider, I must also buy the CYBREI BB86 Bottom Bracket for SRAM DUB Road to replace my current Shimano? Thank you for your attention. Alain
@lazlo25114 ай бұрын
What a jam packed show…. Dude, what gels you using? LoL.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Bath salts. lol. (Joke.)
@RichardWait4 ай бұрын
That Pardus TT Frame is nuts! Will you be stocking Pardus?
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
Pardus don't wanna push overseas..... yet. ;)
@Eirikkinserdal4 ай бұрын
The aerocones 💀
@colecoleman14994 ай бұрын
Pardus TT bike was sick. The seat stays were extremely aero efficient, copying some of Lotus bike. But pardus are shit for not being stiff and bb not being round.
@tt1134 ай бұрын
Yes, please stock Seka Spear on your store. I want to order it from the U.S.
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
We're working on it... looking promising... mid-July kind of time frame.
@jamesmace27114 ай бұрын
@@ChinaCyclingmid July, I'm in - I'll order one of these if you can stock them! Exciting times
@klanyboyd4 ай бұрын
Magene wireless with cables 😅
@Yeahwhatdoesthatmean4 ай бұрын
That should just call this the “western brand copying convention”
@Carftymk4 ай бұрын
another electronic groupset, awesome. but i haven't heard of the looong rumored sensah one? i wish magene made directmount powermeter cranks again... (but lighter this time) i want to use 48-32 rings
@ChinaCycling4 ай бұрын
I went to the Sensah stand today too... literally nothing new... was underwhelmed. :(
@andersnyberg40344 ай бұрын
I have tried to mail pardus in more than one occasion but never got any reply. Been interested in that TT bike since I saw it and wanted to see if they still sell the light weight rim brake frame.