Shapiro & Murray on why US Jews always vote for Democrats - Freedom of Zion Conference in Jerusalem

[@Boominator-d8s]

I’m not a Jew but I left the Democratic Party over their failure to condemn unambiguous support for terrorist organizations on the far left.

[@ryangilles4837]

The real question is why do wealthy jews fund the democrat party agenda? Aka, the destruction of western civilization

[@MottiShneor]

It is a shame - but it became such a BRAVE THING TO DO. I mean, thinking for yourself, making your own judgment, and deciding your own view of reality - and political adherence to what you believe to be the truth. This became so dangerous today - you could lose a job, lose friends, even family. You could be canceled completely, or blocked publicly or suffer all kinds of gross behaviour. I know in a democratic country your decision should be very normal and be answered by "so what?" but nowadays -- I salute you, and all the others who stand for truth, debate, facts, morals, and the free discussion of those.

[@Boominator-d8s]

@ Honestly man, I had already lost my family over this, in a sense. Not because we had an argument over this but because I’ve watched my family, who swear they think for themselves, follow that damned donkey into oblivion. It’s not that our relationship is acrimonious but these issues have irreparably affected our relationship. There isn’t a single race-baiting, Israel-bashing or unambiguously hateful feminist trope on offer from the toxic, identarian left they won’t eat up with a knife and fork. It’s feels most of the time as though fealty to that political ideology is more important to them than their son. It’s way worse out here than most people realize.

[@kevenmosley-koehler7482]

Non jews too!!

[@lenanemiro5457]

I am a Ukrainian Jew from NYC. I voted Republicans in 2024.

[@GraceBegley]

The more I hear anti Israel crap, the more passionate and determined I become in my support for Israel.

[@JakMakes-z5o]

You're an american jew, you are a zionist till death either way.

[@honeyjbc1]

Douglas Murray is a spectacular person. I love him.

[@donaldleider7382]

Jewish man here, I voted for Jimmy Carter when I was 18, last time I ever voted for a democrat! I saw the handwriting on the wall early!

[@Golem.8088]

I'm a french jew. Now here in France we have the third Jewish population of the world, which makes it a sociologically valid sample for what I'm going to say. There was a traditional left side vote in the jewish community (call it 'democrate vote' if you wanna translate into american politics). Now, the antisemitism in France has risen to about 1000% within the last twelve month alone and now, at last, the Jews begin to oppen their eyes to the reality of left wing antisemitism, a hatered that pairs up with islamic antisemitism and that we call 'islamogauchisme'. And now the vote is shifting amongst jews not only ro right but towards far right, aka National Front. Jews of America will, I'm sure, come to reason too, as they will understand what we have: safety for jews now lies on the right side of the chessboard.

[@getlost3346]

Consequence on importing all the countless Muslims into Europe. Start mass deportations else it will get only worse.

[@nickyverra2175]

I’m a British Jew but with lots of French Jewish ancestry as well as Norman ancestry. It’s so interesting because in the uk Jews moved to the right in the 1970s, so earlier than in France or the USA. It was primarily due to Margaret Thatcher who had values very supportive of Judaism and who broke an unspoken rule of having more than one Jew in her cabinet at one time. In France I think the FN has moved away from the issues it had with anti-semitism in the past. This has also been happening in many other European countries where the parties termed as far right have become much more supportive of Jews and of Israel.

[@getlost3346]

@@nickyverra2175 Typical Jewish person voting for Democrats are Reformist. The US Jews are 85% reformist. In Europe and Israel you don't see Reformist Jews as a Majority. Its around 10%, while the majority are Traditional Religious Conservative Jews. France's problem that it is being over run by Algerian Muslims.

[@neverletmego1948]

Votre analyse est peut-être correcte pour la situation française mais pas pour les Etats Unis où la majorité (autour de 80 %) des juifs le sont dans un sens exclusivement "culturel" ou bien ethnique et non pas religieux ou d'appartenance au peuple juif.

[@Golem.8088]

@neverletmego1948 Pour résumer ma pensée, d'une manière parfaitement prosaïque et lapidaire : les Juifs américains votent encore massivement à gauche sur le modèle traditionnel du juif "des lumières" pour une seule raison : contrairement aux Juifs français, ils n'ont pas encore été frappées par le terrorisme frériste, islamique ou par la délinquance judéophobe indigéniste (Mohammed Merah, Hypercasher, musée juif de Bruxelles, Ilan Halimi, Gisèle Alimi, viol d'une adolescente juive aux cris de "Palestine vaincra".). Le jour où les Juifs des USA ramasseront ce qu'ont ramassé les israélites français, nous verrons immédiatement un report massif de leurs intentions sur le ne vote républicain.

[@haleysalz1770]

Jews for trump ❤

[@brandonneumann5294]

78% of Jews voted for Harris 😘💙

[@rlm9093]

WELCOME to the REAL world!

[@April-v6h]

BEN❤

[@marinahayon9261]

הייתי שם ❤

[@macandcheese9324]

I was there!! They are amazing.

[@CheefSmokealot64]

The majority of American Jews will vote for what’s in the best interest of Israel. Clearly Trump has been a great ally of Israel. Declaring Jerusalem as the eternal capital of Israel, moving the US embassy to Jerusalem and declaring Golan as part of Israel helped make over 55% of all American Jews, including me, to vote for Trump 3 times now. I’m so glad Trump won. Trump is a great president for our US and for Israel. 😊🇺🇸🇮🇱

[@blacklupos]

I'm not an American, but it seems that majority of American Jews are very progressive and don't necessarily care about Israel, especially the young generation. I hope I'm wrong.

[@taleiran]

the latest stats are that overall, the Jews voted 78% for Harris. maybe the Jewish vote shifted in some places like New York or Florida or some counties in PA and MI, but the national vote suggests that the Jews may be the only demographic group that did not shift towards Trump.

[@nosson77]

Totally untrue. You pulled that straight out of your assumptions and belief on what people say about Jews without bothering to check out the actual facts.

[@digitalnomad9985]

@@taleiran They're not over 50% Trump voters YET, but they DID indeed shift toward Trump, particularly in the swing states where it mattered most for the electoral college.

[@kap925]

You're delusional if you think that American Jews vote on what's best for Israel. If they did, like Israelis, they would've supported Trump by a wide margin. The truth is that there was relatively little movement among American Jews toward Trump and Republicans. Sadly, most are lib-left progressives and are repulsed by anything conservative or seen as being on the political right.

[@figward]

Thanks for sharing

[@denisegarvin182]

Unfortunately the sound quality was poor. Mr Shapiro speaks very fast and the reverb on Mr Murray, who has meticulous diction had his voice distorted. Pity, I think the gist was interesting..

[@April-v6h]

🇺🇸 🇮🇱

[@extanegautham8950]

Not anymore we dont. #JewsForTrump #JewishRepublicans #JacobJavits. thing is, 50 years ago, since 1967 and earlier, since FDR it was the Dems who had our back, not the Repubs, but times have changed i can respect a handful of Dems but that is it.

[@wholovesyababy5574]

FDR had our backs? Was that when he turned away the St. Louis? Our when he refused to bomb the railways to Auschwitz?

[@bobster0]

FDR himself didn’t exactly “have our back”-and he is arguably the reason that to this day, many Jews mindlessly vote Democrat: because their parents did, and their grandmother loved FDR. For some Jews-often those most lacking genuine Jewish literacy & identity-the “Jewish tradition” most dear to them is voting Democrat. And I t’s hard to think of anything more stupid than voting for a candidate, based purely on a generations-long tradition of voting for their party.

[@RachelJ-ki6nt]

Excellent.

[@Hasan-p2r3j]

No Democratic Party.

[@vl3005]

I find it so funny that they tried to create live subtitles for Ben who's arguably one of the fastest speakers on Planet Earth 😂 Can anyone who was there attest to the success of that thing? Judging by the laughter of the audience (almost a full 2 seconds before the word שמוקים was on the screen) I think the translation bit was kinda superfluous.

[@moshechanatannenbaum5626]

I was at this event. The simultaneous translator was beyond outstanding...absolutely epic...both in translating from the English to Hebrew and vice versa when Hebrew was spoken...super fast and dead on accurate

[@blacklupos]

No way it was a human. Probably AI maybe?

[@vl3005]

@@blacklupos No, I could see typos, deletion and correction. Definitely humans.

[@merrynhopkins1162]

Well said Ben

[@WORLDPARTYFORUM]

Please upload the entire conference.

[@swarming1092]

Yes, where is the full conference?

[@jorgelopez-pr6dr]

I was to ask the same question.

[@dannyhughes4889]

I am amazed that many Americans who are living permanently in Israel still Vote in American Elections and in many cases support the Dems even though it doesn't have Israels' best interests at heart. Habits seem to die hard but in an environment where a few Votes can make all the difference what they are doing threatens the security of Israel.

[@petyai1348]

If you look at NYC election map, you’ll see that southern Brooklyn is all red. Who do you think lives there? Same in 5 Towns of LI.

[@sethc6176]

Please provide the original source video for your viewers. Thank you.

[@jppalm3944]

Audio bad, shame

[@gavinlevy1693]

As a fellow Jew, I believe they have no guts or spine

[@MottiShneor]

Please, why the full content is not published???? I attended the conference (payed the ticket price) and the speeches were SO IMPORTANT -- I don't understand why almost nothing is published!!!! You completely dropped the very important speech by Mike Doran and almost everything!

[@debrafirestone861]

I vote for whom I want I don’t go by what everyone else says I should do

[@bobster0]

How special.

[@jppalm3944]

Democrat Jews democrat first. Democrat Catholics, democrats first

[@liahk1000]

Is the whole event available online?

[@dovbarleib3256]

I voted for 2 Democrats since I started voting in 1978.

[@marktonner4951]

We're is the full debate please

[@BB-sf7jv]

Yep I live in the 5 towns on Long Island….mostly religious folks….the majority voted Trump. Go to areas that don’t keep Hashem and or Meshiach(Christ) in their daily lives and mostly voted Harris. Am Yisrael Chai!

[@JonFrumTheFirst]

For all Ben's handwaving, Jews voted Democrat in the high 80s%. I take my own positions for my own reasons, but it's hard to fight for people who won't fight for themselves.

[@4wildflowers363]

Where can we watch the entire thing?

[@jhkswim2]

They don’t really ask everyone though.

[@col.callan7961]

Ben just talk to fast, so the listener miss more than half of his message. Slow down Ben, we want to hear what you have to say.

[@keepussafeUSA]

Can always adjust the setting wheel in corner to .75 normal speed to slow.

[@getlost3346]

Glad to see Murry mention Tikkun Olam. That has become the Left's new religion.

[@bobster0]

No, it’s the Lefty Jews’ new religion, which they try to pass off as Judaism. The overall Left-as was repeatedly made clear in this clip-is not too interested in Judaism, tikun olam or not.

[@blacklupos]

Link to the full video?

[@dink7458]

109 comments 👀

[@debrafirestone861]

Why do they think all conservatives are against them

[@fdsmith905]

It's very simple: Reform and Conservative Judaism have sold the concept of "Tikkun Olam" as the overriding defining concept of Judaism, and those with little or no knowlege or understanding of Judaim have "drunk the Kool-Aid", and believe it requires us to bow down before those who would destroy us.

[@ELJason2006]

Not any more

[@OG.551.98]

Don't categorize! A real jew will always vote for the better canadate for Israel

[@jtprobst1]

We didn’t vote democrat, we voted Trump

Need to have the camera further away

[@robertshepherd8543]

hard to hear.

[@darrenpick8919]

Zion she Will Rule The World 🌍 The world is her pedestal revelations 12 Zion she pregnant palms 87 born again & Zion & Son of Joseph the marriage in the Bible wedding bells 🔔 marriage !

[@MrVBolton]

Terrible audio♈️

[@donh4907]

Sound track so bad could not watch.

[@traceyhellsten649]

Because they are intelligent, educated people 😉.

[@ronorazine9105]

True, i had an office in the heavy jewish area of newton ma and worked in snother heavily jewish community of brookline their adherence to the democratic party the same party that supports hamas that run the liberal colleges hotbed for ant semitism. Im reminded of a book i had that interveiwed german jews who didnt beleive hitler would do what he did, hitler started out as a socialist even stalin also sn ant semite supported him. I had jewish clients that didnt like isrial because of its government and supported at least verbaly palestine. The settlements bothered them. Why

[@Peaceforall1234]

All jewish i know for TRUMP ❤

[@debrafirestone861]

I’ve always wondered myself What do tha conservative people The Democrats really are t on their side

[@sarahledoux3786]

Stop talking so fast without articulating Ben !!!

[@evegoodmon]

self loathing and needing to prove they are Americans ...

[@someutubchannel69]

They voted for whom is easier to manage to their interests. That's it

[@GodsCreation127]

Yeshua HaMashiac [Jesus the Messiah] loves you so much! You are precious in His eyes and He cares greatly for you.❤ Yeshua said, “The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.” Luke 4:18-19 (NKJV) 🙏❤

[@bobster0]

Get lost. Did you not watch the video? The people here are proud, self-aware Jews: no one here wants or needs your missionary crap.

[@Tbizzy52]

BS = BS

[@user-spreadingtruth]

Not truth.

[@lanatur]

What a liar

[@rachelkieffer8707]

I am a zionist and think that Israel has the right to defend itself. I voted democrat because I live in the USA and want women to have rights over their bodies, I support the LGBTQ community, I believe in the climate emergency, I believe in a more equal distribution of wealth, I do not want to vilify immigrants (aren't we all immigrants? Except native Americans of course), and I can go on and on. The antisemitism on the left is real and horrible and needs to be corrected and changed. Both the Dems and Republicans have much work to do to make the USA better, they are not perfect. As an Israeli American I support Israel but also support the many Israelis that protest and want to change their government's policies. To love Israel does not mean to agree with everything. To be patriotic does not mean the far right. There is antisemitism on the right (white supremacy) and on the left (anti zionism), both have to be fought in equal measure.

[@shadowkhan422]

The left has become the party that supports Hamas and the bs doctrine of their supporters. Im sorry to have to say it, but by voting left you show you care about the above more then about Israel and the actual mass mur...ers they oppose

[@svietka202]

😂 there is no way in hell you are in Israeli living in America😂

[@shadowkhan422]

@@svietka202 He values all the above more then Israel . Its as simple as that -_- And YT cant help itself and not delete all the comments

[@TesterBoy]

Your values are perverse and anti American

[@bobster0]

All of the points you made are easily refuted-most of them are just repeating Leftist propaganda that has been debunked many times over, as if it were fact. When Jews just mindlessly chant Lefty talking points in the face of the monstrous hypocrisy & anti-Semitic hostility demonstrated by most of the Democratic Party, they’re basically signaling that absolutely nothing will change their mind.

[@donaldhutchinson811]

AMERICAN JEWS ARE NOT NECESSARILY SECULAR THEY ARE MORE HUMANITARIAN .....ISRAEL SHOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT IT OTHERWISE IT COULD BE SO MUCH WORSE THAN AT PRESENT....

[@extanegautham8950]

more humanitarian than whom? and why?

[@Jouantiese]

Horse-manure. US Jews still largely trust the Democrats to protect their freedoms, based on the past 40 years. Thankfully that is now changing as they recognise increasingly the Marxist metastasis within the DP. Israel is happy that it's all about to get a whole lot better.

[@tamaritiel9909]

Why are you yelling?

[@svietka202]

greater majority of religious Jews voted for Trump

[@bobster0]

What a load of crap. Woke Americans-very much including Lefty Jews-favor performative humanitarianism & self-absorbed virtue-signaling. Actually doing concrete things that help people… eh, not so much. In contrast, in Israel, by the evening of 10/7, for example, an entire country, people all across the wide political spectrum, dropped what they were doing and got to work in a an enormous grassroots effort to help their countrymen in every way possible. That’s true humanitarianism.

[@Birch123-z9p]

I am Jewish and I voted against Trump. The reason which I believe should be acknowledged is that Harris while not pro Israel wasn’t actively against Israel. Trumps policies have changed on whims and I don’t trust him enough to know that he is better for Israel. If I had any confidence in him I would have voted solely because of Israel. I hope I am wrong but it is unfair to tie the fate of Israel to party lines. Israel is far more important than either party.

[@keepussafeUSA]

She would have shoved a 2 state delusion. That is the Democratic party stance which will mean the end to Israel.