Shaykh Abu Usamah addresses Shamsi And the SP cult!

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@AliDawah
@AliDawah Жыл бұрын
May Allah swt bless and Preserve shiekh Abu usama, how can these individuals be on haqq when they even warn against firm salafi brothers like shiekh usama?
@a7mad194
@a7mad194 Жыл бұрын
Shamsi calls innovators imams yet he critisize them for taking from someone whome they find as innovator 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@a7mad194
@a7mad194 Жыл бұрын
Ali dawah is a kharijite? || Madkhali lie
@MAR-ev6mt
@MAR-ev6mt Жыл бұрын
Why always attacking shamsi?
@a7mad194
@a7mad194 Жыл бұрын
@@MAR-ev6mt he calls people who do dawah innovators and kharijits
@MAR-ev6mt
@MAR-ev6mt Жыл бұрын
@@a7mad194 slm brother Maybe it is because of my ignorance but it seems like shamsi is sincere and the rest of people are overreacting a bit. Because i never see ali dawah talking about mohammed hijab while he do the same thing. Or daniel haq.. for continu criticising people like mufti menk. But he and mohammed hijab are continu insulting saajid and dawah man even though they don't respond back. They also never clarified why they accused shamsi of getting from the goverment .. I love them all for the sake of Allah but we have to be fair
@kashanbennett8771
@kashanbennett8771 Жыл бұрын
Why is the call to Salafi the only way to true Islam? I have since I have excepted Islam 18 years ago have seen nothing but turmoil and strive who follow a certain way. How can they say they follow the salafi but disagree with notable scholars and imams who were masters of this Deen? I’m so confused with that dawah and pray Allah guide those who are blinded by it.
@xander583
@xander583 Жыл бұрын
Because the Salaf are the 3 golden generations and everyone else adds innovations, some to the point where they commit shirk(grave worshippers and those who invoke other than Allah). Narrated Zahdam bin Mudarrab: `Imran bin Hussain said, "The Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'The best of you (people) are my generation, and the second best will be those who will follow them, and then those who will follow the second generation." `Imran added, "I do not remember whether he mentioned two or three (generations) after his generation. He added, 'Then will come some people who will make vows but will not fulfill them; and they will be dishonest and will not be trustworthy, and they will give their witness without being asked to give their witness, and fatness will appear among them.' " Sahih al-Bukhari 6695
@sweetcheeks11
@sweetcheeks11 Жыл бұрын
The salaf preserve our teachings. Look at the books he tells you to read. It’s going to Tamiyyah. Tafsir by ibn Kathir or Saadi. What is wrong with that..?
@Ntwadumela266
@Ntwadumela266 Жыл бұрын
@@xander583the 4 Madhabs basically aim to follow the Sunnah and the Salaf, with their founders being part of the salaf themselves. Those who think deeply and realise this realise this argument doesn’t make sense. I can be following Malik Fiqh and still follow the salaf according to the methodology of Imam Malik / the school of Madinah. Whilst blind following is bad salafis do that anyway since they’ll only take the opinions of Sheikh Al Albani, Sheikh Uthaymeen, Sheikh Bin Baz, Sheikh Al Fawzan, May Allah preserve them. If follow an opinion just becasue Sheikh Bin Baz said so then that’s also Taqleed. You cannot escape Taqleed truly unless you become a polymath and start your own Madhab.
@murthe-wise535
@murthe-wise535 Жыл бұрын
I used to believe in salafism but not anymore. What did salafism brought to the Ummah? Terrorists like Isis and book haram, Fitnah, disunity, division among the Ummah, hatred, suicide bomb... There was no suicide bombing until saudi made salafism came.
@mianatwood
@mianatwood Жыл бұрын
“Salafies” pretend like they follow the salaf but in reality their founder is Mohammad Wahab, they follow him and nowadays people like Madkhali. We follow imam Abu Hanfa who is literally from the 2nd generation, aka salaf. But they follow some modern day scholars then call themselves salaf.
@mianatwood
@mianatwood Жыл бұрын
Deobabd is a Madrasah where people study Islam, just like university of Madena! They don’t become a sect cuz they went to a certain university. Deoband has many thousands of people that are on the Sunnah of the prophet (saw)!
@yourstruly5706
@yourstruly5706 Жыл бұрын
Lol, if only you knew of the cult of the Deobandis and the ones that go and Medina University😂
@samfaris313
@samfaris313 Жыл бұрын
No they aren't go and read the black magic in ashraf ali thanwis book, alongside all the other baatil kufri statements in their books, not to mention the fabricated ahadith. Deobandis believe in seeking istianah from the jinn during ruqyah. Where is that in the sunna? 😂
@yourstruly5706
@yourstruly5706 Жыл бұрын
@samirfaris313 all the ways people say magic is done aren't found anywhere in the Qur'an and Sunnah either. Heck, I'll tell you what, where is the ruqya that is used found in the sunnah or the method of recitation? You can try and bash the Deobandis, but the truth is the standards you use are hypocritical. They are wrong for other reasons and these aren't it.
@BWFAIZANSRD
@BWFAIZANSRD Жыл бұрын
​@yourstruly5706 you do realise arabs make a small proportion of Muslims as we see today right. You really think every Muslim is going to go to Medina for studying. Lol you're way out of your mind!
@Taab1578
@Taab1578 Жыл бұрын
@@yourstruly5706 are u justifying asking jinns for help
@abdullahassaffah
@abdullahassaffah Жыл бұрын
I have my disagreements with sheikh abu usama but he is far better then the likes of spubs shamsi dawah man uthman ibn farooq he has genuine knowledge like abu taymiyyah and is more qualified then those jahil including abu khadeejah You could see his face change when uthman ibn farooq mocked the sufis even he disliked such bad manners
@westsidebeaches
@westsidebeaches Жыл бұрын
Please remove the pin and heart for this comment. He speaks Ill of sheiks like Uthman Ibn Farooq. We don't need someone like this pinned and hearted.
@brace_yourself
@brace_yourself Жыл бұрын
​@@westsidebeaches uthman bin farooq is a sheikh? How come? what's his qualification. He has not even studied Hanbali Fiqh under any school. How come he is a sheikh? *Enlighten us please!*
@westsidebeaches
@westsidebeaches Жыл бұрын
@@brace_yourself who are you and why do I care about you troll?
@abdullahassaffah
@abdullahassaffah Жыл бұрын
@@westsidebeaches uthman ibn faruq isn't even a sheikh which madrasha did he go to which scholars declared him a sheikh what does he specialize in answer is nothing
@abdullahassaffah
@abdullahassaffah Жыл бұрын
@@brace_yourself his fans think he's a sheikh because of his youtube videos
@Insaniya.humanity
@Insaniya.humanity Жыл бұрын
Only problem I’ve got i with him is when he defends Saudi for things he does condemn to others
@sweetcheeks11
@sweetcheeks11 Жыл бұрын
@@paimei26he tells you to read the books, the tafsir by ibn kathir, works by Tamiyyah. Riyaadh us Salaheen. He tells you TO READ. And stop basing deen on popular people. I see nothing wrong with this advice. People alive in our time have a lot to gain from their advices. People dead and gone don’t……
@sweetcheeks11
@sweetcheeks11 Жыл бұрын
@@paimei26Shamsi said shamsi is no one. Go read the books. Follow his advice and you’ll see if he is wrong or not. He’s giving you the formula to see who’s telling the truth and who is not. Popular people have a divine right of being correct?
@mk-ld8ih
@mk-ld8ih Жыл бұрын
​@@sweetcheeks11so why isn't it khurooj when the same group rebelled against the muslim leaders in libya, in support for haftar
@Bbb82744
@Bbb82744 Жыл бұрын
@@sweetcheeks11 you will find people that you would think are clear deviants saying the same thing. just because advice is good it doesn't mean that the person advising is right in their other views.
@mariotak4632
@mariotak4632 Жыл бұрын
@@sweetcheeks11Even the innovators will tell you to read Quran Hadith books of imams. That’s not the issue, the issue is his hypocritical and arrogant behaviour and slander of other Muslimeen and his ignorance of matters pertaining to the religion as he falsely accuses people of being innovators very quickly with no qualifications whatsoever.
@ad1103
@ad1103 Жыл бұрын
I don't agree with Shamsi. However, Shamsi is clearly doing something different. He's giving dawah in public. That public space is not attributed to a deviant group. However, a masjid is attributed to a specific dawah. So giving dawah there could make it seem as though you agree with their deviations. This is the confusion they're trying to avoid. However, I understand the other position, that the harms are very little, if any. And that giving dawah and exposing the people to Ahlul Sunnah dawah is far better than abandoning the masjids. But still, Shamsi is not doing the same thing and the differences have a significant impact on the ruling. Secondly, he's giving dawah to the deviants. Not with the deviants. Another difference. And think about this point when reflecting on the verse Abu Usama quoted along with the Salaf who used it. No one from the Salaf said you can't go to a place where the deviants are and refute them. Come on, the Prophet did this very thing. You have to be just when claiming he's contradicting his methodology. And trust me, this video is only going to be used against this page for "not understanding the methodology of the Salaf". This video was a fail in my opinion. And you should reflect and pre-empt the arguments and rebuttals that undoublty are coming to this page. Damage control.
@chef4823
@chef4823 Жыл бұрын
Dont fall into this binary its tawhid vs shirk. Muslim vs mushrik. Not this hyper focus on other muslims. The haq has to be made clear of course but the muslimeen are merciful towards one another at the same time. Shamsi and his group do baraa from “mubtadi3een” basically anyone they disagree with. When Allah commanded us to do baraa from the mushrikeen. Shamsis dawah is a psyop. The sooner you realize this the better off you will be in’sha’Allah
@chef4823
@chef4823 Жыл бұрын
Rand corp approved manhaj
@hikkato88
@hikkato88 Жыл бұрын
Deviants deviants who's the deviants according to them ?
@chef4823
@chef4823 Жыл бұрын
@@hikkato88 if you dont boycott the ppl they call mubtadi3 and you mix with them, they now consider you a mubtadi3 and the same goes for the ones who associate with you. It keeps going and going like a chain of tabdee3. Basically shamsi and his group are the khawarij. Support the tyrants who are against the muslims, contantly find any and every fault with muslims and leave the non muslims.
@asavlogsalltruthrevealed7483
@asavlogsalltruthrevealed7483 Жыл бұрын
SO SHAMSI IS ONLY RIGHT IN GIVING DAWAH? ALL OTHER MUSLIMS ARE WRONG IF THEY DONT AGREE WITH HIM.
@lumiam6982
@lumiam6982 Жыл бұрын
I am not Hanafi nor from the sub-continent so automatically I don't subscribe to their two schools that split there (deos and Barels) but why do psuedo-Salafis believe only they follow the Salaf? I'm sorry for saying this but Ahlu Sunnah didn't begin 200 years ago. Sunnis existed before them and have always been the majority and they are still to this day. They still follow the pious predecessors (Salaf al-Salih). Before aligning with a particular madhab. I looked into the evidences from the Ash'aris and Salafis. They told me Ash'aris are ilm al-kalam. They don't know hadith or Athar. They deny the attributes of Allah. They are this and that. When I sat down with them. They presented me nothing but authentic Athar dismantling the aqidah of pseudo-Salafis and they dismantled the false Athar pseudo-Salafis showed me proving their inauthenticity or lack of comprehension. I realized that it's actually pseudo-Salafis who deny the attributes of Allah while Ash'aris affirm all of them. The vast majority of hadith scholars (ahl al-hadith) were Ash'aris. After, looking into the truth. I realized Ash'aris are the people of hadith, people of athar and people of reason. The real authentic unorthodox Sunni Muslim are the Ash'aris. I also realized pseudo-Salafis are the people of innovation, people of fabrication and people of tashbih. Brothers, do your research and don't believe in this petro dollar propaganda that has recently been propagated in the mid 20th century. Follow what majority of scholars (throughout history) and Muslim lands are upon and believe me. This is when you uncover haq.
@BWFAIZANSRD
@BWFAIZANSRD Жыл бұрын
This! I myself got out of the small circle of pseudo salafiyyah a few years ago, when I realised and saw the bigger picture! It surely opens your eyes.
@SOMEONE-eq5bu
@SOMEONE-eq5bu Жыл бұрын
They propagate so much lies about asharis just so much much All they have is spreading lies upon lies
@LeafSouls
@LeafSouls 11 ай бұрын
I would prefer asharis over salafies any time soon
@Abuaaliyah1
@Abuaaliyah1 6 ай бұрын
I am not Ash’ari my aqeedah is athari but I do not follow the pseudo salafis. The thing folks don’t talk about is athari, ashari, maturidi at its root is the same belief just a different approach. Literally an ashari (Ibn jawzi) wrote one of the most comprehensive books on asma wasiffat that atharis use for evidence of their approach to the attributes of Allah.
@MM-bu9ir
@MM-bu9ir Жыл бұрын
This channel is still a wahabi channel imo. No maturidi or asharis on here. Kind of disappointing. Especially when you quote from the likes of ghazali amongst many others. I’ve watched several debates and done my research and wahabi beliefs won’t stand the test of time. Just because you claim to follow the Sahaba. The shia claim the same thing.
@sp-files82
@sp-files82 Жыл бұрын
@@BWFAIZANSRDwe’re atharis here on this channel. Sorry to burst your bubble!
@BWFAIZANSRD
@BWFAIZANSRD Жыл бұрын
@@sp-files82 Athari are still Ahlus Sunnah Wa'l Jama'ah 👍
@mds270
@mds270 Жыл бұрын
Shamsi calls for salafiya. But calling people khawarij for having diff opinion from rulers is not salafiya.
@RevivalOfSunnan
@RevivalOfSunnan Жыл бұрын
اللهم بارك يا شيخ i agree with sheikh whole heartedly, but i just wanna make sure i didnt hear him swear by something other than الله. did he say “by the rub of the ka’abah”? (1:30) if so then thats a big mistake, may الله preserve him and increase him in every good.
@sp-files82
@sp-files82 Жыл бұрын
He didn’t say the “rub of the ka’abah” he said the “Rabb of the ka’abah” but thanks for making me laugh my head off 😂😂
@brace_yourself
@brace_yourself Жыл бұрын
Yeah berry berry big Mistake!😂
@RevivalOfSunnan
@RevivalOfSunnan Жыл бұрын
@sp-files82 np np, just wanted to give you a laugh 😅🥸🥸
@Ntwadumela266
@Ntwadumela266 Жыл бұрын
@@RevivalOfSunnanLOOOOOL brother you’re too funny May Allah bless you and reward you
@abujebreelspadaccini2607
@abujebreelspadaccini2607 Жыл бұрын
May Allah preserve the Sheikh and guide us to the Siraat, as Sheikh Ibn Uthaimeen RA said : "Find evidences first, then build your aqeedah on it, but don't build a aqeedah first then trying to find evidences, you will surely be misguided". Remember the Muslims in your duaas whenever you can.
@AhmadAli-ml8xr
@AhmadAli-ml8xr Жыл бұрын
This guy is lost. Dude disrespects Abu Hanifa r.a.- does he not know that Bukari r.a. Is the grand student of Abu Hanifa R.A.
@ussyj8783
@ussyj8783 Жыл бұрын
Didn't Imam Bukhari say Imam Abu Hanifa is weak in hadith. Didn't Imam Bukhari write a book on raising the hands in salah, rebuking the hanafis.
@Ntwadumela266
@Ntwadumela266 Жыл бұрын
@@ussyj8783you’re more than welcome to start your own madhab bro if you think you can do it better than one of the 4 rightly guided imams, and the fact there is complete ijma on this point.
@AhmadAli-ml8xr
@AhmadAli-ml8xr Жыл бұрын
@@ussyj8783 imam bukaris dad (teacher) was a Hanafi ra. You do realise Abu Hanifa was his senior in knowledge and hadith right? You might aswell contend that you know more than the companions ra of the prophet saw
@ussyj8783
@ussyj8783 Жыл бұрын
@@Ntwadumela266 4 rightly guided imams? Where did you get this statement from. Oh I see, 4 rightly guided caliphs. Interesting.
@ussyj8783
@ussyj8783 Жыл бұрын
@@AhmadAli-ml8xr Evidence please. Did I claim I know more than the companions of Prophet صل الله عليه وسلم The hadith of the Prophet صل الله عليه وسلم is higher than any imam's statement.
@TheDarpaChief
@TheDarpaChief Жыл бұрын
Shamsi worships MBS 😂
@Taab1578
@Taab1578 Жыл бұрын
We should be careful of statements like these akhi. The tongue is the reason why we may go to hell. I know you don’t truly mean it.
@TheTemporary1ne
@TheTemporary1ne Жыл бұрын
According to shamsi, MBS is a SALAFI 😂😂😂
@abdullsalaammahamed9415
@abdullsalaammahamed9415 Жыл бұрын
Don't say that brother ,we do not say what we are not sure of ,you are saying shamsi is doing shirk.
@أبوشغل
@أبوشغل Жыл бұрын
The angels have written down your statement
@sammu
@sammu Жыл бұрын
Hope y’all got Shaykh’s permission before plastering Shamsi’s picture to the former’s words. Shaykh didn’t use any names for a reason.
@SonGoku-io7sh
@SonGoku-io7sh Жыл бұрын
Are you trying to hide behind youtube copyright laws? What about the content of the message.
@sammu
@sammu Жыл бұрын
@@SonGoku-io7sh Content I fully agree with. Although I cringed at casual blasting of non-Salafi Sunni groups. However, Shaykh purposefully chose not to mention names yet his clip was edited to add a picture next to the words. Hope permission was taken before doing that. Not sure what you meant about copyright laws.
@SonGoku-io7sh
@SonGoku-io7sh Жыл бұрын
@@sammu Yes it is cringe mentioning non-Salafi groups, especially when Salafi-ism has so many issues. Copyright is what I assumed you needed permission for. However you can't be pedantic regarding permission for a public image as you wont be able to copyright strike a video based on this. Why would you use such tactics if you're on the haqq?
@sammu
@sammu Жыл бұрын
@@SonGoku-io7sh I think you misunderstood my point. This isn't regarding any kind of copyright but more so about basic adab and manners. It's an obligation that when we quote someone, we quote them accurately, without adding or taking away anything. The quote in this case was a direct video of the Shaykh talking about an issue, yet the original video of the Shaykh was edited to add a picture of Shamsi when Shaykh wasn't using any names, to save further fitnah. If the Shaykh was contacted prior to doing this and he allowed it, then it's all good.
@marcs5110
@marcs5110 6 ай бұрын
Assalam aleikum, Where is the full lecture ?
@soussosarabasenga157
@soussosarabasenga157 Жыл бұрын
سبحان الله وبحمده سبحان الله العظيم استغفر الله العظيم الذي لا اله الا هو الحي القيوم واتوب اليه
@GarethBryant15
@GarethBryant15 Жыл бұрын
This is so accurate/honest, as per exposing an-Nifāq/Hypocrisy.
@smeshfactory3992
@smeshfactory3992 Жыл бұрын
This brother reminds me of Mike Tyson, looks like him and has some of his mannerisms too, the hand movements specifically.
@shushanto
@shushanto Жыл бұрын
His voice sounds exactly like Iron Mike.
@tariq5017
@tariq5017 Жыл бұрын
Nonsense
@ImranAli-tm3rq
@ImranAli-tm3rq Жыл бұрын
They're both from the same area in New York..
@gmak6624
@gmak6624 Жыл бұрын
The innovators don't need dawah, they need clarification about the difference between us and them which is why the scholars say salafi sheikhs should not give lectures in mosque of innovators unless for purpose of refutation and calling them back to the true way.
@irfanahmed7847
@irfanahmed7847 Жыл бұрын
I do not know this sheikh. But i do know Debate is not the way to do dawah. Specially when people are lying or saying ill things in that place. The Quraysh hated Islam much like the west does. Because Quraish would loose much of wealth and their business of pagans if they became Muslims. That was the fear. Similarly west has the same fear that they will not be able to deal with Riba and openly commit zina if they were to accept Islam. therefore there is slander and defaming of Islam. But not even once The Prophet Mohammed ( Peace and blessing be upon him) went out to debate. He showed his good character, was patient, explained and gave sermons to educate and call non Muslims to Islam. He did not even debate with Abu Talib. What this sheikh said makes sense. So whoever has issues and want to name call Salafis, Deobandi Wahabi. Lets look at what the Prophet Mohammed ( Peace and blessing be upon him) did and how he Educated others.
@abaIdrisiyas
@abaIdrisiyas Жыл бұрын
This is your fatwa? Masha'Allah. Okay let's do what you say and look at the Quran and Sunnah. Surah Nahl 125 Invite ˹all˺ to the Way of your Lord with wisdom and kind advice, and only debate with them in the best manner. Surely your Lord ˹alone˺ knows best who has strayed from His Way and who is ˹rightly˺ guided.
@irfanahmed7847
@irfanahmed7847 Жыл бұрын
@@abaIdrisiyas that's a translation. Good job understanding Quran based on translation. This is not my fatwa. The translation also mentioned the best way to convey. That's not debate. Debate is to prove a point across with any means. The Prophet pbuh used to discuss or advice. Keep up the ignorance you will be answering to Allah on judgment day. Only few KZbin channel I have seen discuss the Islam in the manner Quran as described.
@Ryan-lf6ds
@Ryan-lf6ds Жыл бұрын
@@irfanahmed7847 that's hard copium, son. The Quran says debate n that's how Islam works.
@irfanahmed7847
@irfanahmed7847 Жыл бұрын
@@Ryan-lf6ds daddy. You need to learn seerah and opinions of scholars. You call me son yet you do not understand what the ayat speaks about.
@Ryan-lf6ds
@Ryan-lf6ds Жыл бұрын
@@irfanahmed7847 "you need to learn seerah and opinions of the scholars" daddy ain't got time to hear the opinions of some bedouin retards, son. "you do not understand..." oh, i do understand. bring em smoothbrains to me, i'll teach em a thing or two.
@amirakazi2366
@amirakazi2366 Жыл бұрын
Some Years back Salafee were mocking at Zakir Naik, debating is not the way of Salaf, he was labelled as deviant. I am surprised, same people stooped so low arguing like Juhaal.. In Islamic countries - they print dawah material for Malls, public places. Nobody barks on streets
@MoAli16180
@MoAli16180 Жыл бұрын
Debate is not dawah, and speakers corners is a place of debate. A debate is only Ulema (Rightly guided scholar) who has spent 8 years minimum of life accruing DEENI ELM in a madrasa WHICH IS CONNECTED TO THE TIME OF THE Prophet Muhammad saw. TIME
@tarekazzam9356
@tarekazzam9356 Жыл бұрын
Words of Gold. It has become a circus lately on KZbin, back biting, fitna. Instead they should carry that knowledge and lead by example to muslims and non-muslims. Jazaarka Allahu Khair Shaykh Abu Usamah.
@snakejuce
@snakejuce Жыл бұрын
Whats with all the wahhabi clowns in the comments section?
@Ntwadumela266
@Ntwadumela266 Жыл бұрын
Tell me about it
@kemokeita5737
@kemokeita5737 Жыл бұрын
As for for the person the sheikh is talking about. If the person is know to be virtuous and is on the manhaj. We need to respect his approach. Cause many of this brothers have experience in this field and they know the benefits and the non benefits from giving dawah to certain these masjids. And as we know from the scholars it is very dangerous to sit with akhlul bidaah. The one who comes to speaker corner is definitely seeking something either fitnah or the truth.
@sweetcheeks11
@sweetcheeks11 Жыл бұрын
Wow brother good job on brining up the scholars! Don’t hear these people attacking Shamsi doing that at all! Just giving their own opinions.. based on what..?
@mds270
@mds270 Жыл бұрын
Chain tabdi'e leads to chain Takfir.
@arminkc
@arminkc Жыл бұрын
Am I misunderstanding him or is he calling Deobandi, Barelvi and sufis not followers of the sunnah? If my understanding is correct then I would really advise you to remove this post. Would be surprised if D.H and M.H would agree with this way of finding a solution for the secterians.
@Ahmed-li4bw
@Ahmed-li4bw Жыл бұрын
yeah they are not
@inakhtive
@inakhtive Жыл бұрын
They are not followers of the sunnah tho and barelvis ain’t even Muslim
@xander583
@xander583 Жыл бұрын
Have you read the books of the Sufis and seen there practices??? Did the Sahabah worship graves, chant and spin around in circles?
@arminkc
@arminkc Жыл бұрын
@@xander583 Books from sufis like Ibn Taymiyyah or do you live in denial about that?
@xander583
@xander583 Жыл бұрын
@@arminkc I like how you causal looked over the Shirk they do but that's to be expected of those who flavor their desires over clear cut truth.
@foufoua
@foufoua Жыл бұрын
Their shayk suleyman ar-ruhaily attended a conference in may 2023 in morocco where he gave a speech and next to him sat ashari scholars and grave worshippers and he hugged them and treated them as if they where best friends.
@razwanashraf5363
@razwanashraf5363 Жыл бұрын
1. Shaykh sulayman al-ruhayli isn't just with spubs his with the salafees in general 2. Shaykh sulayman Al ruhayli is very well known , if I entered that majlis and asked the people who is that shaykh, they will reply he is shaykh sulayman, he is a Salafī Ālim from Saudi. And a distinction will be made
@foufoua
@foufoua Жыл бұрын
@@razwanashraf5363 so you believe that someone from the selefu-saalih would embrace and hugging with murjia or with djahmiya or qaddariyah or khawarij?
@foufoua
@foufoua Жыл бұрын
@@kelvin_1904 i said it
@razwanashraf5363
@razwanashraf5363 Жыл бұрын
@@foufoua imam daruqootni you can also find this in imam dhahabi book, where he met with the head of the Ashaa'irah. Imam Abu hanifah, went to the kufar to debate them and many scholars of the salaf did so, but they did it in a way which causes the audience to research the Sunnah. Obviously in today's time if a popular Ālim did so the internet will find out. And Allah knows best
@foufoua
@foufoua Жыл бұрын
@@razwanashraf5363 Give me selefu-saalih asahbi ! Firtst 3 generations
@DigitalResistanceGroup
@DigitalResistanceGroup Жыл бұрын
This guy has been a “leader” in his community for a while, still these communities in the UK are rubbish. Time for new leadership
@Omarj1986
@Omarj1986 Жыл бұрын
Going speakers corner and going to the Mosque of innovators is not the same thing. 1 is a public platform for debate. 1 is a mosque led by innovators. The layman muslims will take knowledge from innovators if they see they're own teacher's sitting with them. Not going to a mosque led by innovators is a protection for the layman.
@sp-files82
@sp-files82 Жыл бұрын
Very in-depth qiyaas there shaykh mashallah! This definitely proves why shamsi can go there and others shouldn’t 👍🏼
@Omarj1986
@Omarj1986 Жыл бұрын
You're response says it all. I'm a fellow Muslim and instead of guiding me to the Haqq and away from falsehood(according to you) you dismiss me because of a simple critique I made. You're hatred for Shamsi and his teachers is very clear to me. Your criticisms of them is personal don't think you're protecting muslims. @@sp-files82
@Ntwadumela266
@Ntwadumela266 Жыл бұрын
@@Omarj1986if you suspect you may not be guided and may not be 100% correct you shouldn’t have spoken at all or commented in the first place. There are plenty of videos here that bring evidence against Shamsi. This channel is literally dedicated to criticising salafi publications so it cite that they dislike them is obviously true and a non argument.
@Omarj1986
@Omarj1986 Жыл бұрын
I suggest you delete your above comment because you haven't read what I said. I said "according to you" sp-files. I've seen the years of back and forth between this channel and Shamsi's. @@Ntwadumela266
@Omarj1986
@Omarj1986 Жыл бұрын
@@sp-files82 I see 16 people liked your comment and counting, yet neither you nor those liking your comment demonstrated what was wrong with my critique. It appears you guys are the real cult and you're the leader. Otherwise you would have responded with a good reason showing why I'm wrong. The fact you haven't is wierd to me. And 16 cheerleaders follow you blindly. Wallahi this is sad. Fear Allah.
@CaptainS159
@CaptainS159 Жыл бұрын
The more of these comments i Read and Learn names of groups and everything they do makes me wonder if i should even Keep watching any of these videos and try to learn from them 😞. Everyone pointing fingers to one another , i Just want to Keep pointing ☝️. I make Duah for all of use to be guided and make the world a better place and make it to Jannah and meet our Creator . ☝️💪❤️🤲
@mds270
@mds270 Жыл бұрын
Differences of opinion is fact of life. proper mgt is needed & this needs effort.
@zehravesile
@zehravesile Жыл бұрын
​@@mds270yes but not 2 dis extent....i never saw a single scholar agreeing wd each oder....its always dis scholar exposed dat scholar dat scholar exposed dis scholar or dey refute each oder.....
@mds270
@mds270 Жыл бұрын
@@zehravesile scholars refute each other. Lay people chose whichever scholar they fill comfortable. This is islamic history.
@mohammeds3114
@mohammeds3114 Жыл бұрын
You might find that others who broadly fit into the Ahlus Sunnah designation don’t consider you “People of the Sunnah”. The Bralewis are famous for being exclusivist and don’t consider anyone but themselves Sunnis 🤷‍♂️, the collateral damage being the Deobandis, let alone the Salafis. Can we stop deluding ourselves that some modern daee with the intellectual prowess of a donkey with learning difficulties will solve the intra-Sunni debate decisively in the cesspit that is Speaker’s Corner?
@muheet602
@muheet602 Жыл бұрын
I love Sheikh Abu Usamah AND brother shamsi. I make dua that they be united and find common ground.
@AliDawah
@AliDawah Жыл бұрын
As salam u alaikum I find it a bit amusing that people make this dua, as if shamsi only has a issue with shiekh usama lol, shamsi has an issue 100s of duaat. Doesn’t make you realise where the problem is coming from?
@MS-Hussain
@MS-Hussain Жыл бұрын
​@@AliDawahexactly brother, shamsi hv problem with just everyone, say 99.9% of Muslims. Dawah of ppl like him does more harm than good for the ummah. Hope other salafi scholars too speak on this.
@muheet602
@muheet602 Жыл бұрын
@@AliDawah وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته My brother in Islam I can only speak on my behalf and I know that most of the duwat are more knowledgeable than me. I specified this dua because it was meant for this particular video. But for the benefit of the Ummah, we make dua for unity.
@mds270
@mds270 Жыл бұрын
This is madkhaliya in action. It is not personal per say.
@Omarj1986
@Omarj1986 Жыл бұрын
@@mds270 when I hear someone say Madkhaliya I immediately know their ignorant. Congratulations on your ignorance.👏 P.S. don't bother replying unless you explain what you mean by Madkhaliya and demonstrate why it's not ignorant.
@kemokeita5737
@kemokeita5737 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who is confused about the issue in dawah. listen to shamsi and gather the evidences and compare them against the others. Anyone who is honest will find guidance.
@kaz4845
@kaz4845 Жыл бұрын
Bit difficult bro, shamsi is contradictory and hypocritical.. He will condemn others for using philosophy, then use it himself.. You can't do a sensible comparison with people like that
@HMG2119
@HMG2119 Жыл бұрын
@@kaz4845the guy has a clear agenda, his like should be avoided.
@boredalchemist
@boredalchemist Жыл бұрын
@@baabmansour may Allah guide you and shamshi
@kemokeita5737
@kemokeita5737 Жыл бұрын
@@kaz4845 we have one who'd known to use philosophy doing dawah, we have another who those it occasionally giving the situation which is allowed. The thing about shamsi is we know his manhaj, we know where his stand. Not unlike the others. We just cannot reunite on falsehood. Thts where the salafys have put their line. And anyone who sits with and chats with them is supporting their wrong beliefs.
@foufoua
@foufoua Жыл бұрын
Shamsi believes that the one who worships a dead man in the grave out of ignorance but he says the shahada, he is still a muslim, monotheist because he is ignorant and the one who makes takfir of this man then he belongs to the khawarij. This is also what his shayk rabee al madkhali believes. Shayk rabee al madkhali does not make takfir upon the ignorant worshipper of other then Allah
@kel3090
@kel3090 Жыл бұрын
Did you say: Wallahi by the rope of the kaabah?!!
@johannesgoldling4375
@johannesgoldling4375 Жыл бұрын
Why SP cult ? Isnt the video posted by SP ?
@Anonymous-411
@Anonymous-411 Жыл бұрын
SP files is not Salafi Publication.
@easyismail425
@easyismail425 Жыл бұрын
Subhanallah this is the first to hear this Sheik. Ma sha Allah the hikmah is on a high level. May Allah bless you
@GarethBryant15
@GarethBryant15 Жыл бұрын
Literally, everything via This-Video is 💯%-Truth/Honesty: "Truth is Truth, regardless of whom/where it comes from." #IslamicPrinciple
@mds270
@mds270 Жыл бұрын
Yes, This stand is Hypocracy. Madkhalis have hypocracy as a methodology. But to decide they are munafiq is too much. B/c nifaq is much more than hypocracy.
@user-ml8ld1kl6b
@user-ml8ld1kl6b Жыл бұрын
GOLDIE STILL AT IT!!! Abu Uwais dealt with you إن كان الكلام من الفضة فسكوت من الذهب
@abaIdrisiyas
@abaIdrisiyas Жыл бұрын
This isn't the 90s Mr madkhaki fan boy
@Muslim-t1j
@Muslim-t1j Жыл бұрын
What on earth is الفذة. The Arabic sentence your attempted to write applies to you only.
@abaIdrisiyas
@abaIdrisiyas Жыл бұрын
BTW who is Abu Uwais. He's a nobody only madkhalis heard of him.
@user-ml8ld1kl6b
@user-ml8ld1kl6b Жыл бұрын
@@Muslim-t1j I don’t talk a lot tho… also congrats on gaslighting off of a typo. Evasion tactic always comes clutch for hizbis
@user-ml8ld1kl6b
@user-ml8ld1kl6b Жыл бұрын
@@abaIdrisiyas anyone who uses the term madkhali is an ignoramus who lacks proper Islamic intellect to even follow the Sunnah properly… anything you have to say is equivalent to a donkey making noise in the street to me
@mds270
@mds270 Жыл бұрын
Madkhalis love chain tabdi'e which is the mother of chain takfir.
@razwanashraf5363
@razwanashraf5363 Жыл бұрын
So this ayah which Abu Usman has said is the same upon Muhammad hijab and Ali dawah ?
@Ntwadumela266
@Ntwadumela266 Жыл бұрын
I think you missed the point, he’s trying to point out a contradiction in his methodology not throw speakers corner duat under the bus as a whole
@Falamhi
@Falamhi Жыл бұрын
Shamsi is a cheap ai bot
@MuhammadAbdullah-kx3kn
@MuhammadAbdullah-kx3kn Жыл бұрын
yo... u watch ur mouth boy, don't u know the Haq is with Na'amsi & SP cult 🤣🤣 All of u are Mubtadis.... Na'am 😂😂
@mumin9436
@mumin9436 Жыл бұрын
u sure dont know anything about ai nor what a bot is
@Falamhi
@Falamhi Жыл бұрын
@@mumin9436 I am sure that shmasi is fasiq , shamsi is a bootlicker for MBS
@Defeatzeus
@Defeatzeus Жыл бұрын
We may disagree with Shamsi on many issues. But you have no right to insult him...that's not the way of Salaf.
@asharisarejahmis
@asharisarejahmis Жыл бұрын
​​​​​@@Defeatzeusbut he says their blood is halal since he considers them as kharijites anr according to faris alhammadi he should be reported to authorities "and the reward of evil is evil like it" quran
@nidalak
@nidalak Жыл бұрын
You guys will quote any and every deviant to win against ahlusunnah. And every time you are exposed. Subhanallah! May Allah guide you amateurs to haqq. Salafi publications is highly recommended by the Ulama. I personally know Mashaayakh who have been collaborating with them in Dawah. Do not disconnect people from the scholars. Allah will take you into account for deceiving the common people. These are from the signs of hypocrisy.
@Ntwadumela266
@Ntwadumela266 Жыл бұрын
‘dEvIanT’ you guys love that word too much. Spubs is highly recommended by the ulema that write for it, and ulema that don’t rate them get labelled as deviants
@HolisticHijamaAndMassage
@HolisticHijamaAndMassage Жыл бұрын
Makes sense
@zohaibhassan2561
@zohaibhassan2561 10 ай бұрын
Salfiya the biggest bidaa of our time ,
@alu177
@alu177 Жыл бұрын
The true manhajj is the TWO WEIGHTY MATTERS set by our prophet of mercy, Hadith Thaqalayn: تفسير القرآن العظيم، ج12، ص271ابن كثير الدمشقي أن رسول الله (صلى الله عليه وآله) قال في خطبته بغدير خم: إني تارك فيكم الثقلين كتاب الله وعترتي وأنهم لم يفترقا حتى يردا عليّ الحوض الصحيح الرواية صحيحة السند Tafseer al-Quran al-Azeem for Ibn Katheer in vol:12 pg:271 reports the hadith and says the narration is sahih and the sanad is sahih the Messenger of Allāh, peace be upon him, said in his sermon at Ghadīr Khumm: “I am leavingbehind over you the Two Weighty Things (al-thaqalayn): the Book of Allāh and my offspring. Verily, both shall never separate from each other until they meet me at the Lake-Fount.” That is our pathway.
@sannimustapha5188
@sannimustapha5188 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, anytime he discusses with someone and they insult the prophet or word of Allah intentionally he stops the conversation and walks away
@sp-files82
@sp-files82 Жыл бұрын
If you’ve seen some of the videos of him on this channel you’d know that’s far from the truth. Once he even invited a Christian missionary to go ahead and say whatever he likes about the prophet in order so he could “answer his doubts”
@tariqrahman6918
@tariqrahman6918 Жыл бұрын
??
@blank_3958
@blank_3958 Жыл бұрын
It’s 2023 and SP still got a following?? When are people going to grow up?
@mds270
@mds270 Жыл бұрын
Yes it has followets for the good points it makes.
@blank_3958
@blank_3958 Жыл бұрын
@@mds270 like when Abu khadija encourages woman to sell their gold to donate to his masjid lining his pockets? Don’t be a suckka
@jackthumberstone7935
@jackthumberstone7935 Жыл бұрын
Madkhali is that and this Crap upon crap
@logician1234
@logician1234 Жыл бұрын
Lol at triggered asharis in the comments. Your own founder repented and said he is on the aqeedah of imam Ahmad
@asharisarejahmis
@asharisarejahmis Жыл бұрын
They are refuted i cant believe someone said "ahlul hadith are the one who deny attributes of allah not asharis" 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️
@brace_yourself
@brace_yourself Жыл бұрын
would you please provide evidence of what you have claimed?
@a7mad194
@a7mad194 Жыл бұрын
this is the reference «أبو الحسن الأشعري» (ص72): «فإن قال لنا قائل قد أنكرتم قول المعتزلة والقدرية والجهمية والحرورية والرافضة والمرجئة، فعرفونا قولكم الذي به تقولون وديانتكم التي بها تدينون. قيل له: ‌قولنا ‌الذي ‌نقول ‌به ‌وديانتنا التي ندين بها التمسك بكتاب ربنا عز وجل وسنة نبينا عليه السلام، وما روي عن الصحابة والتابعين وأئمة الحديث، ونحن بذلك معتصمون، وبما كان يقول به أبو عبد الله أحمد بن محمد بن حنبل نضر الله وجهه ورفع درجته وأجزل مثوبته قائلون، ولما خالف قوله مخالفون»
@brace_yourself
@brace_yourself Жыл бұрын
@@a7mad194 *where is repentance? Can you read or not?*
@a7mad194
@a7mad194 Жыл бұрын
@@brace_yourselfCan you read or not? he responds to all and every asharis aqeedas in hus book alibana and how is this not a repentence to say all of your saying is the saying of ahlulsunnah and imam ahmed and refuting their claims since allah mentiones "As for those who repent, mend their ways, and let the truth be known, they are the ones to whom I will turn ˹in forgiveness˺, for I am the Accepter of Repentance, Most Merciful." As he did ako of these things
@AthariSunniTradition
@AthariSunniTradition Жыл бұрын
Shamsi is a hooligan like the rest of SP topmembers.
@mds270
@mds270 Жыл бұрын
May Allah forgive our short comings. Shamsi shows how madkhaliya is a disease.
@AbdulAllouche
@AbdulAllouche Жыл бұрын
Shamsi is one aggront person stop watching his shows
@RR-vg5hg
@RR-vg5hg Жыл бұрын
I agree with this similitude but don’t subscribe to this brother though
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