SHE SAID YES (to new bearings - DT Swiss 180 hub bearing replacement) | Syd Fixes Bikes

[@sydfixesbikes]

Useful note: A few people have pointed out that it's better to push against the outer bearing race when pressing them in. Thanks for the comments!

[@Sondretheman71]

You should not use a bearing puller if you're reusing the spacer, as it chamfers the spacer when the puller is expanding, because it's material is much softer than the bearing. You'll end up with a shorter spacer and the spacing and pre-load will be wrong. Great video though!

[@HabaneroTi]

Yeah, you never want to press against the inner race or you'll ruin the bearing. That's the rule for when a bearing is installed into a bore. When it's installed onto a shaft, the opposite is true and you want to press against the inner race. Basically, always press against the press fitted race. I ruined a car wheel bearing once by failing to heed this, and the hub developed play in no time.

[@memphisrainesgallery]

Great video, replacing bearings can be a challenge if not done methodically. only thing i noticed was you pressed the new bearing in by the inner edge, new bearings should always be pressed in at the outer edge to avoid damaging the race and the seals of the EXTREMELY expensive ceramic bearing, also a little bit of grease can help them press in more easily.

[@chw0112]

They should be pressed by both the inner and outer race if there is a spacer tube between them in order to avoid excessive pre-load.

[@peletonmobilnyserwisrowerowy]

Dt Swiss bearings is absolutely joke. All that ceramic bearings in hubs and bottom brackets it's bollocks.

[@lloydjarm]

yeah grease on every step assembling for me

[@informationgames]

Awesome video! I've been jonesin' for more fixin' bikes videos. As for cassette removal, I took a community bicycle maintenance class at Portland Community College in 1999 -- our teacher told a story about his German mechanic co-worker who, every time he had to loosten a stuck part would use an extension handle and say in the most Teutonic of all accents: "Thank Gahd for da leeever." and now I must say this whenever I apply the physics miracle of leverage to any maintenance task.

[@wg2060]

To sound like you’re swearing, throw out Scheibenkleister or Donnerwetter. My dad had to use those when I was helping him in the garage as a kid.

[@nick_john]

Whenever I torque a bolt I give thanks to Sir Isaac Newton

[@GHinWI]

Great video. @16:00, it’s definitely best to use an adapter that presses the bearing from the OUTER race, not the inner race, as it appeared to show. Pressing on the inner race applies the force through the balls which can cause damage to them.

[@rosannevanvelthoven8986]

Love your videos! My freehub on my gravelbike broke this week and with help of your videos I managed to fix it. I just needed a bit of help from my partner to get the cassette off :)

[@jakespede8522]

Glad to see you posting on the channel again. I do miss your teaching and enjoy the fact that you show that you can do it with a little bit of training, the right tools, and a great coach(Macky). Sorry I missed you when you were here for the El Paso Puzzle, but I was out of town and it was as windy in Ruidoso as it was here. Fantastic video and great riding on both your parts. You guys are a great team. Thanks.

[@Dolencd]

I've come across this channel recently and It's pure gold! This method where an experienced mechanic explains to a not so experienced one what to do and how to do it is genius! Love it!

[@davidtomlinson5017]

I started mtb in the days of rigid front forks, QR hubs , and loose ball bearings. The modern bikes are awesome, but the maintenance can be daunting. I really appreciate these videos that demystify the process.

[@griffon2-6]

meh, benefits of radial bearings over cone ones in bike hubs are questionable at best, and make no sense from mechanical standpoint of how load is applied to those bearings

[@OjStudios]

@@griffon2-6 Yup. Cones are actually better because radial sealed bearings can't stand as much side/crossloads. Also they have smaller contact area which helps with the rolling resistances.

[@AntoineThisdale]

Makes you appreciate the hard work your local bikeshop mecanic goes through to "tune your bike". I certainly appreciate mine since i don't have that kind of workbench/space. As usual, great video peps!

[@glencompton2949]

Great video. I have done the caveman version without the proper tools and it works but involves a lot more use of profanity. This looked a LOT more zen. The blind puller in particular is a game changer and would also help with some frame bearings

[@chrishorbatt3504]

"Least violent way of removing the bearing"! Good way to describe it!

[@MichaelHoulden]

Yeowsers! $89 per bearing, plus all the tooling. That’s a commitment indeed! Glad to see a new SFB video again, such great content.

[@reykjavik9187]

Not to mention that one DT Swiss 180 hub costs ~ $ 400...

[@brianreese9318]

It’s been a min good to see your back

[@TexasWahoo_]

It's a great day when Syd fixes a bike!

[@ianwood6864]

Hi you two, Please carry on with your good work on both channels, I wish you two and your family’s and friends all the best for the future. Love from Ianwood 🇬🇧❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@Jinedan]

One of the beautiful things about DTSwiss hubs is their ease of service. You can just grab the cassette and pull the driver body and cassette off the hub in one piece. Boom.

[@rufuswainwright8171]

Silly question, but don’t the 180 hubs already have Ceramic Bearings?? Looks like new wheels so they can’t be toast yet?? Serious cost for those new bearings. I think I’ll be leaving it to the LBS to service mine 🙈🙈 Hope you love those Berd Spoke. Totally love mine, built on 240 hubs well worth it.

[@andyj7296]

So great to see you work on your bike. I always learn something. Great video. 😊

[@64chrisg]

waited too long to service my hub bearing in my Hope hub and 2 of them exploded :( caused derailleur damage and a little free hub damage. Definitely something I have since added to my service checklist. and YES...having the right tools makes lit a lot easier to service.

[@keithschrack]

@2:45 there is much more mechanical advantage pushing tools together than pushing them apart--orientation makes a difference. Placing the vise-whip in your right hand and the remover in your left, then squeezing, would have made removal much easier.

[@vehicle-stuff]

Thank for that video. Thanks for the knowledge and for that there are such lifetime bearings, although expensive. Those bearing presses and bearing removal tools are pretty expensive too, also you need a lot of adaptors to fit around all the bearings and stuff. When I get 3 bearing presses, a couple of extraction tools and different adaptors for them.... I'll just get those lifetime bearings, give it to a shop and forget it. It looks to be cheaper this way and faster too. Sometimes from those installation videos I learn that it's better to get the more expensive and durable part and give it to a pro mechanic. Win, Win for everyone.

[@reykjavik9187]

Thanks for adding all the tools you used in the description under the video!

[@eddierivera7803]

Nice video guys very comprehensive right down to the pokey tool! Just did both my e-bikes and it helps to have at least most of the right tools if not all. Where can I get the bearing map kinda neat . Never miss your videos and always look forward to them.

[@sydfixesbikes]

Thanks for the kind words. Check the description for link to the mat

[@josephukedaddy0548]

Funny, it gets crazy with all of the parts. Another good idea for any project with alot of parts is, take pictures as you remove stuff. Create a digital catalog of what parts go where and in what order.😊

[@wheelgood]

Who makes the slide hammer set up? I need to know!!

[@nici936]

I am lucky enough to disassemble the axle as well. thank you very much for this good video.

[@Дмитро-п3м]

Hello. You are awesome. When installing a new Shimano brake rotor, does it need to be chemically cleaned? If so, what - alcohol, isopropyl alcohol or white spirit?

[@sydfixesbikes]

Not generally unless you've gotten oil or grease on it then just use isopropyl alcohol.

[@AndresBikeTour]

Always interesting with you on the channel 👍 Thanks a lot! Best regards from Germany André

[@AZMTB]

Something to note on that spacer inside the freehub body that you have to move aside to remove the first of the two bearings - that spacer is indeed important and has to go back in place when you reassemble everything. I left it out during a recent service, put maybe 20 miles on the bike and I was noticing some 'drag' when trying to spin the wheel. I took it all apart and the outter most bearing in the freehub body had come apart. The seal facing outwards was intact, but when I removed it, all of the balls in the bearing and the cage and the seal on the inner side of it fell out into my hands. Something about the spacer not being there put a ton of extra load on the bearings and messed at least one of them up. I replaced both while I was in there.

[@natehendricksen3338]

Great video. I always learn a lot from your vids. Thanks.

[@davidyoung-nb2pu]

well done Syd. its not too complicated but like Macky said it you lay them on the bench in h order you remove and if need take some photos now for something really complicated navigating your way around the dash L200. Now thats complicated.

[@garthflint]

Old motorcycle mechanic trick is to refrigerate the bearing for a few hours. They will contract a bit and usually just push in with a thumb. At the shop I worked at we had a fridge for beer and bearings.

[@Dan_Kornfeld]

A brilliant upload, good fun! Question: Does DT Swiss have a bearing size chart for each of their hubs? I'm about to do a DT Swiss hub service on my Nukeproof enduro (your video has perfect timing), and I would greatly prefer to have the new bearings on hand, as opposed to pulling the hub apart, measuring the bearings (which should be done regardless), and then having to order the new bearings. Keep doing what you do‼️😁👍

[@sydfixesbikes]

I think if you Google your hub plus "bearing size" you should be able to find the specs fairly easily.

[@djmystery7235]

16:08 don’t you want to squeeze in your bearings by the outer race not the inner?

[@dominicpompeo2822]

I like these videos! I need to do this upgrade to my front wheel (has a tiny bit of play)

[@tenpennyguy]

Really helpful. But I gotta admit this makes me feel better about working with my old cup & cone stuff.

[@djiembefolaDan]

Thanks for the excellent video! Seeing as the bearing press alone is $400, I think I'll maintain my LBS relationship............

[@doncrescas]

You can buy a bearing press set for 50

[@mrvwbug4423]

And those $89 a pop bearings, the bearings in that hub cost more than an entire i9 hydra hub. I think I'll stick with the reasonably priced but reliable NTN or SKF bearings.

[@HabaneroTi]

These tools and techniques are basically mini versions of how you replace bearings on cars, having done a bunch of that myself, mainly wheel and transmission bearings (the former are pressed into bores while the latter are pressed onto shafts, but same idea even if the tools and methods are somewhat different). And as with car bearings there's no one correct tool or technique to use, just a variety of them that get the same end results. The key is to use whichever you go with properly and carefully.

[@n0ch91c3s]

Since you have bearing pullers, you should use the 12mm one to remove the end caps. You don't need the slide hammer, they don't need to be that tight either. Just by hand for both. So quick, so easy, no external forces to mar the end cap

[@TeamCykelhold]

If you don't have the press tools you can as you say use the mallet on the axle as you say, and for the ratchet bearing you can use a CL rotor lockring. It has just the right dimension and the ratchet will sit on top perfectly, and you can punch in out from the other side. Was this video sponsored by Enduro Bearings?

[@fra93ilgrande]

I love DT SWISS Ratchet System ❤

[@bike314]

Is the process basically the same for a front wheel? (Minus the freehub part?)

[@sydfixesbikes]

Yup!

[@GeekonaBike]

This makes me even more in love w/ Shimano cup & cone hubs

[@moxnix]

I'm glad I have the Shimano cup & cone hubs on my ride

[@BGWordneemig]

Hi! Don't use this chain tool! Use the normal one line chain tool, and do not push apart, but press the two tools together with small angel! Much easier and does not fall on the wheels!

[@GHinWI]

That’s probably the kind of chain tool their sponsor makes, so that’s what they use.

[@GHinWI]

That’s probably the kind of chain tool their sponsor makes, so that’s what they use.

[@greggr1591]

"It's a good day any day when you get to use the vice." 😁

[@vasingerke]

Maybe I missed somewhere this but you don't need to use any grease during the installation?

[@moindada9903]

Very nice content you provided to audience I have one question you please guide me my Rockrider XC900 bike problem is the disc brake cable is broke so how to I solve this problem?

[@sydfixesbikes]

If it's a hydraulic line you'll need to replace the line and bleed it. If it's cable-actuated you'll need to replace the cable and housing.

[@pandatactical4530]

Awesome Video, Fantastic Content! 👍👍👍

[@michaelholland5109]

Get your wrenches closer together it gives you better leverage.

[@coolcycles]

Biggest problem is to get the proper bearings for the asian hub, that came with the used complete bike bought 7 years ago. Same with all the linkage bearings. Imagine a bearing failure on a bike trip - total bummer. That's why I like rigid bikes with shimano hubs, with their cup & cone bearings, so much.

[@weathdone]

great vid.. thanx for doing all of them.. curious and be as honest as possible... How are the rope spokes? lol ive only heard good things which always seems to be like a new placebo effect thing LOL.. please lmk your most honest opinion on how they are riding wise and are they worth the hefty price tag for some strings attached to rim.. LOL.. THanx again for all u guys do!!! Cheers

[@sydfixesbikes]

The best way to describe it is we haven't noticed them except for the fact that they are ridiculously light! This is exactly what we want as we don't want to be thinking about anything on our bikes while we're riding them, we just want them to work!

[@ΑλέξανδροςΓεκίλης]

Guys, please use special grease on the star ratchet and some grease when assembling the bearings. Plus it will provide a better water protection if you spread a small quantity on the bearing.

[@pawelwityk1963]

Hey great video! Where did you guys get those fancy bearing press tools? Are those specific to dt swiss ? I've always managed to just use a threaded rod with some nuts and combination of washers and sockets to get the job done. Looking into getting some purpose made tools for the job as although this method works it requires a quite of bit of trial and error to get the correct setup/size with the washers and sockets. Just wondering if those adapter bits are purchased separately or did they come with the bearing press? I've shopped around quite a bit but it seems dt swiss only makes bearing tools to clamp in the vise and the bearings need to be hammered in and out. I am also not a fan of hammering bearings and thinks that pressing is the better way to go about this. According to the official dt swiss manual the bearings are to be hammering in and out using the proprietary dt swiss vise clamp tools/adapters which I find very strange.

[@sydfixesbikes]

Check out the video description for links to the tools we used. They're are from Enduro Bearings and they make a variety of adapters so you can press/remove pretty much any bearing imaginable!

[@KWosQ]

Hello, I have DT Swiss ARC 1100 Dicut wheels with a 180 hub. And I have a question: what is the size of the freehub bearings? Are they the same as in the hub? Regards

[@sydfixesbikes]

The cassette body uses 2 x 6802 bearings (15x24x5mm)

[@larsdeniel8126]

@16.00, Big mistake, That not how its don actually, like George H mention before. MY PRO Tipp! with expensive bearings like these is heating the exterior (hub) so this part expands before pressing, than take your bearing out of the freezer (material shrinks im the cold) and press it in. It reduces the pressure!!

[@TheRokko66]

You can remove the sprocket cassette much easier when you use a vice and clamp the removal tool into the vice and turn the wheel by hand

[@RalfBorn]

Did the full bearing replacement on my 180's race bike rear hub and experienced a surreal issue: The 140er brake disc does not fit into the flat mount brake caliper anymore which cannot cannot moved to work like before. Curiosly, the hub spins very easy, theratchet system replaced as well works a charm and -all! the top bike shops consulted tell me the hub is assemled correctly and recommend using "washers" to fit the disc back between caliper.. Anyone any idea, please?

[@Definci]

🥰😍 Waiting for hub motor video 😀😀

[@stevenkilleen8149]

Great video

[@razmtb5028]

Awesomeee!!

[@jrod0981]

How often do you have to maintain the dt swiss 180 hubs? I'm looking at this exact set of wheels from NOBL TR35's with berd spokes and 180 hubs? Cant decide between the 180's and 240's and if it's worth it to go to the 180's?

[@sydfixesbikes]

We've put quite a bit of time (and some nasty conditions as seen in these videos - kzbin.info/aero/PLssWz5AWGkh8kzp2oJxnaKWWv06muXzyQ) on these wheels so far this year and they're working great! Haven't had to do any maintenance so far.

[@fmattei2370]

The side show was about how many cool tools you guys have.

[@topcat304]

For frame bearing kits, Real World Cycling has almost every bike build sold as a kit with Enduro bearings.

[@gototrails]

Is dt swiss 180 didynt alredy have ceramic bearings?

[@sydfixesbikes]

Yup, but the Enduro Bearings ones are nicer (and have a lifetime warranty)!

[@kasparondrej2938]

I like DT wheels but lock ring under ratchet (old design) or as part of bottom ratchet (new design) is very hard to remove. Better chance to break the tool than to loose the nut, which is tighter with every pedal stroke. Why DT, why?

[@kasparondrej2938]

One thing 16:13 you should always press in outer race of the bearing not the inner

[@Team81MTB]

This was posted 11 hours ago. I thought you two jet setters were racing in South America? How can you be in two places at once? Must be some Jedi stuff going on here. Blowing my mind!! 😂😂

[@sydfixesbikes]

Magic 😉

[@jamintoday5137]

Thanks so much for this.

[@agma]

"There is one bearing that I suspiciously haven't used yet" Yeah, that brief moment of questioning whether that's the last part in the assembly of if you should redo half the process 😅

[@pauleddy5146]

You can read or look at pictures all day, but you have to actually do the job to understand the technique(s) required to get the job done. Theory is easy. It the "feel" that one must learn or destroy parts. Nice to have a coach present for the first time. Mechanical technique and methods must be passed along. You can do it alone, as a novice, at a cost of either rework, parts, or both. Ask anyone who's done the job and they will probably volunteer to help. We don't want our knowledge to die with us.

[@wheelgood]

Oh, please, who made the chart too!

[@sydfixesbikes]

Links in description 😉

[@rykie5]

DT Swiss 180 have standard CINC ceramic bearings..... you should clean them and re-lube them and not replace them. (unless Enduro is your sponsor obviously ;-))

[@0Meaty]

I want a "pokey tool". Is that its actual name?

[@sydfixesbikes]

Link in the description, but it's the Feedback Sports dual-sided utility pick

[@0Meaty]

@@sydfixesbikes Thanks Syd. Ordered one.

[@roneysilveira2153]

Hi and tks for the video. I do have DT180 hubs, can you please send ENDURO bearings replacement part number ? Thank you

[@sydfixesbikes]

Here you go: Rear wheel: - 1 x cycling.endurobearings.com/collections/all/products/cxd-mr-15267-llb# - 3 x cycling.endurobearings.com/collections/hub-bearings/products/cxd-6802-llb-xd# (the title is wrong and the dimensions are actually 15x24x5 as listed in the description) Front wheel: - 2 x cycling.endurobearings.com/collections/hub-bearings/products/cxd-6803-llb-xd#

[@roneysilveira2153]

@@sydfixesbikes thank you very much 👍 you and Mack are really amaizing !

[@kentabyte]

Great video.... 👍

[@HabaneroTi]

And, ceramic bearings on a mountain bike hub? Aren't they more prone to cracking and chipping under heavy impact, which is a given on such bikes? Plus, the ever so slightly lower friction would be totally lost on such a bike. At 4x the price I'd give them a hard pass. Hambini thinks so.

[@mrvwbug4423]

The bearings in that hub cost more than an entire i9 Hydra 🤣 Great how to video though.

[@michawasiljew6620]

i forgot that some people does not have chris king hubs like me where there us no need to replcae bearings, omg I'm so amazing.

[@ruquik]

seating an outing race by pushing on the inner race in generally considered bad

[@matthewlepito9805]

OMG, SYD might fix bearings but I'm not. so many parts to press those

[@trickelfamily]

Dang bearings cost as much as the original hub. Must be awesome to be sponsored. Lol

[@alistermccallum]

Lots of snake oil in bike bearings. Check out some of Hambini’s videos. You don’t need to spend anywhere near what Enduro charge.

[@TraitorLegions]

I would totally go to a bike shop that employs a rhinoceros xD

[@cliffordrichardc]

everyday wait your vedio

[@lmmeg6575]

This gave me a headache trying to follow but amazing and impressive nonetheless!

[@ruquik]

My 10 yr old mid 90s self needs to no what ABEC rating those bearing are lol.

[@Whitesp0t]

Bearings with lifetime warrenty?? That is either snakeoil or death of that firm.

[@natehendricksen3338]

Probably have to have the receipt and it's printed in that disappearing ink.

[@derekrigsby2879]

"syd fixes bikes while a guy tells her every move."

[@danbernardbaconawa9990]

I really want to try high end bikes like that so bad 😢

[@RolfReiner]

it´s not rocket science... but as close as it ever will get.

[@notpablo8369]

Balls of what?!!!😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

[@normanmadden]

Bearings are kinda a ring....

[@TheButlerNZ]

"She Said Yes"... Beat Tom Cardy's video by a week...

[@lolbubs11111]

Is this sponsored by Enduro Bearings? Lol

[@neilk22]

$89 x 5 = $445!!! For bearings?!??? For one wheel 😮

[@sethwalton2008]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@StrongerThanBigfoot]

Too much work to take out the axel. I’d rather just brute force it out with a mallet.

[@davependragon1]

Owwwww, all that tooling and expensive bearings just to push it in on the inner race. That made me cringe.

[@blazbozjak3284]

I was wondering why on earth anyone would change dt-swiss bearing from 180 with enduro bearings and then I figure out you guys are sponsored. I hope you change back to dt-swiss when the camera was turned off becouse otherwise this is huge downgrade.

[@johnpalkovic8860]

Please demonstrate safety by wearing gloves when you're remove a cassette! You don't want to bash your naked hand into something if your grip slips.

[@sachindas7937]

Who designed this hub what a waste of time

[@yyyy2722]

Can you speak chinese language?