Sheik's NEW Kill Confirm | Void Guides

[@michaelkarim57]

I like how Void learned this tech when the training dummy killed him in the online waiting room.

[@xxMaki]

This worked in smash 4 also

[@michaelkarim57]

@@xxMaki this might be true, but I believe it was less consistent overall and wasn't as good in a game where every character had infinite airdodges and broken recoveries

[@Sickmmaner]

Bouta call this the dummydrop

[@oneofthekindscarf8612]

@@Sickmmaner That has to be the name now.

[@Lootmare]

@@xxMaki well of course it did. remember fox fair? lol

[@DemonTwink69]

Goes without saying that plenty of characters can survive this, with up B alone. But this is a great tool for shiek in a lot of matchups no doubt, I think of the aegis matchup immediately.

[@gsmVoiD]

A lot of the strength of this comes from the offstage aspect (The no setup!) in comparison to the specific ledge setups. If an opponent is ever offstage without a double jump, djs out of a combo, or loses disadvantage after double jumping, uair is now one of her most reliable options to kill in many many mus prior to needles fish kill %s

[@Bo6us]

@@gsmVoiD I'd argue that this isn't a kill confirm, but a gimp confirm. I'd imagine with some characters who's recovery is strict with range, this interrupts their precise recoveries and just getting them riiight past the point of no return. Da shit is just disrespectful if you survive it too.

[@Cheeseisboss]

@@Bo6us a gimp is a KO, it's a KO confirm if they don't make it back

[@Bo6us]

@@Cheeseisboss You missed that one. The point is this really only works as a gimp, a kill confirm is something thats basically a guarantee kill everytime, which this is not. It really only works as a gimp kill.

[@carlos41519]

@@Bo6us its a kill confirm if you do it right. And even though it might not work on every character, it will on most

[@WarrenValion]

That CPU really taught you the future of Sheik's meta. Crazy

[@alexmansfield9388]

This is a great video Void! It was really cool to learn about more ways Sheik can't kill! Anyway, we should ban Steve :)

[@noobiesensei6281]

69+1st like.

[@lifeof_bi9982]

Why must you hurt me this way?

[@MrMockRock]

Sheik is the coolest character in Ultimate and it's not close

[@firebal6129]

Yes

[@itsevanonyt]

You sleeping on inceniroar bro cmon mock rock Btw I love your vids man thanks for helping me get good! 😼

[@lukemedina19]

Eyyy it’s mockrock!

[@Shmicah1235]

I feel like ZSS is really up there too

[@kimashitawa8113]

Every single one of those words are in the bible

[@philclip23]

It's definitely character-specific, but the fact that Sheik can unironically f-air someone in the corner at 0 into a drag-down up-air and it just WORKS on bad recoveries is actually cracked. There are some good-ass characters in Ult that would just get *rocked* by this.

[@abcrasshadow9341]

Buh bye Pythra!

[@SeriousStriker]

Bye Roy and Chrom too.

[@meki6891]

“This is brilliant *literally any other kill confirm* but I like this” *falling upair*

[@jebstuart3162]

Fill in Needles Footstool Dair Usmash for first part

[@nekoshiro2299]

The no setup setup was insane

[@adminhmeijin1532]

Been doing this since smash 4 but with greninja. Its so good, especially if u can get a footstool right after to recover

[@247MrNiceguy]

Is it possible to footstool them after the drag down? Similar to the Smash 4 Fox Fair drag down

[@ashtoncooper5478]

Oh wow I didn’t think about that!

[@nimblen8]

it is possible but it is not true

[@vndrwP]

Ooh gotta remember this

[@Point5_]

@@nimblen8 yeah but who tf expects it ?

[@sohn7767]

@@Point5_ the repeated victims

[@shiftdb]

Oh fuck yes. I've been doing this one for a while and I'm hype to see a pro like you use this live. Catches my friends off guard every time.

[@LarryLurr]

Why you doing this on red and black Wolf?

[@overkia5958]

It’s a call out Larry he’s coming

[@ariasariamis712]

Love these guide videos! Could you consider making one around the theme of wall play/setups. Just throwing out ideas, but I sometimes see players/characters that have wall jump/cling pull off advanced looking stuff I didn't think was possible/don't understand the limitations of. And then there's different wall tech options and scenarios with frame advantage/disadvantage. I guess I generally just suck on wall stuff, so I'd love to see something related to it.

[@nathanballay9702]

Nairo’s comment about sheik up air pointing her toes down to spike the enemy so he doesn’t die is coming back to haunt him.

[@Swift640]

Wow, this is pretty crazy void. Thank you for explaining to the people how this tech works!

[@GeneralSalzor]

This is the guide to Upair I was looking for. Very helpful and glad Void Guides are coming back

[@crazybokoblin8638]

Sheik kill confirm meta log 2020: Falling up-air to falling up-air to up-smash 2021: Falling up-air to up-smash 2022: Falling up-air

[@planetary-rendez-vous]

2023 : Up-air

[@crazybokoblin8638]

@@planetary-rendez-vous 2024: Up

[@jungleberrypie]

its amazing to believe all of this was done through the inspiration of a TRAINING CPU that void got gimped by

[@spryzor4799]

Joker Mains: 👁️👁️ Fun Fact: Joker can also perform the Raindrop kill confirm with Fair 1 instead of Ftilt. It's just to flex tho

[@noice8911]

If you’re talking about the one in Leo’s video, that’s not actually a true combo unfortunately

[@LeafysHere]

@@noice8911 its very niche and situational, but at late mid % it actually is true and leads into stuff

[@andrevanderlinden8722]

Any dragdown move can do this

[@LeafysHere]

@@andrevanderlinden8722 hes refering to plat drop fair1 which is unrelated to this vid

[@spryzor4799]

@@noice8911 me ? If You're talking abt the Raindrop, I managed myself to Get it in training mode

[@daylanswartz3449]

This is how you make a video! He perfectly explained everything to cover the confirm. Take note youtubers

[@squiddlyd755]

I like doing similar stuff with snake’s nair bc it can drag down if you get the first few hits to connect… but sometimes I just hit nair 1 and then they fall out cuz I fast fell too early lol

[@SincerelyLR]

at 3:11 do you think a fish tail after the shurikens could confirm a pushback to your opponent while allowing you to return safely to ledge? Also would still have your up "B" right??🤷‍♂

[@Danimal197]

jump off needles into rising fair falling uair was so beautiful

[@darkcake1]

This guide is really helpful! Thanks sir Void!

[@Shmicah1235]

Have you been able to use a footstool to recover after? I feel as though the possibilities are really high for that

[@CheeseBon]

Thanks for not stretching this video out to 10min for youtube.

[@gamejitzu]

I see, so this is why Larry Lurr picked up Sheik

[@tile-maker4962]

Well I don't know if it is considered a confirm. This is more of a whiff. Pikachu does the same thing with b-air 2 hit to air dodge whiff off stage.

[@joshdowell3111]

What a splendid birthday present from void!

[@xThe4thx]

Crazy i been doing this for a few years but I’m not PR or known. Void DEFINITELY added some sauce with the setups tho so Preciate that

[@taco-t-cup8028]

Did this once in smash 4. Got me thinking but I haven't really done anything about it before now.

[@RED_XLR]

Having more options and knowing when to go for them is always better than not having a lot of options.

[@sharsasuke01]

Void started this video like the kill confirm was his sponsor.

[@BloodLegaZ]

Now we just need to find a way to reliably footstool after the drag down. Also, can't you bounding fish on the side of the stage to get a bounce and possibly walljump into up-b to recover? That might work.

[@TheArena12128]

I wonder if Greninja has any of these setups / can do similar things with his up air.

[@witherbrine5674]

He does

[@chrome317_8]

I LOVE THIS. More please

[@gigaspin6595]

A lot of characters can do this. Basically any character with a good drag-down move.

[@Fatalfury1391]

Thanks dude i love sheik a lot and i get really annoyed by spacey/campy players that abuse the lower option of recovering to the ledge. Now i have a new tool for that.

[@akira_sekaiii]

Let's go Void Guides! I love the aesthetic of this video! 🔥🔥🔥🔥 and bruh that move is so disrespectful. Gonna lab this tonight.

[@TDKING-ks9jn]

VoiD pushin 🅿 with Sheik, as usual

[@elmnt61]

awesome to see void guides

[@Sebastian-oq9vq]

Can you maybe get a footstool after it? Sort of like Fox's smash 4 dd fair to footstool

[@mitsuki_ssb]

yes

[@Clubvirg]

Yeeeeeeeeessss Void Guides are finally back 😭

[@Snowballsage]

The fact that a cpu discovered this is just too funny

[@Lt31337Luca]

I feel you found this on accident one night when you should've been sleeping and went for a dragdown but forgot there was no stage under you when you attempted it.

[@ChronosAnJill]

This game is going to be 20 years old and even then Void's gonna find Kill confirms with Sheik

[@PinkFreshhh]

GAS

[@RofICopters]

The Dummy Drop! this is sick

[@sharsasuke01]

Zackray: "Naruhodo..."

[@ranchlord77]

Can’t wait to see this at tournaments

[@jaygatsby3007]

I remember doing this to my friends but they learned and always saved their jumps when I did it

[@ExceedRed]

This kill confirm should be called the Sheikahcide

[@mrmunchin2578]

the quality of this video 👌🏻

[@djestoussaint8968]

love you void. keep doing your thing

[@elefanamir9087]

S+ Character! Sheik getting scarier by the day

[@erikhepp4144]

I guess this would apply to similar up airs like greninja and joker then right?

[@beansfebreeze]

It's a fun trick ngl. I do it with joker every now and then to keep people on their toes

[@ShallBePurified]

And to think he learned this tech by the AI doing it to him first.

[@crybaby_peach]

Has the Sheik meta changed much in the last couple years? i really enjoy Sheik in Melee, i understand that Ult Sheik is very different but i wanna pick her up in Ult

[@BocchitheGwak]

I’ve been doing this with joker, greninja and sheik, a friend of mine taught it to me didn’t realise u never use it

[@doug5786]

I been doing this already but didn’t know it was undiscovered very cool

[@doug5786]

Mainly because I mained greninja for a few years and he can do pretty much the same thing because his up air is very similar so I’m guessing joker can also do it

[@jcmm99]

I remember seeing the clip of the cpu hitting u with this... It's cool knowing u developed it more

[@Kneedler1]

i cant believe he's playing with his feeeet while explaining the setups 😳

[@andresdelbusto2184]

So Smash4 fair dragdown of Fox but with Sheik lol, just missing the footstool and that's it

[@shunpo5394]

I think you can also do this with joker

[@rollerking8818]

*DJ Kalid* Another one....

[@johnkramer2144]

Wait, so isn’t this like Smash 4 Fox Drag-down Forward Air Kills?

[@lazyrebel5019]

Is there a way to up air footstool? Like fox's fair footstool

[@Daiyan_30]

Does this work with Joker too?

[@Skapes11238]

It's got to right? Their up airs are almost exactly the same.

[@enricoasili6598]

This is out since forever as a Joker option, I thought everyone knew already

[@az3429]

Using this as a combo finisher against like DK or Mac is a GG

[@yubas8070]

Can't wait to fuck it up every time i try

[@Mani_Katti]

Can Joker and Samus do it as well?

[@bibbyboxx2219]

Great video VoiD

[@freeze_electric]

Love the video void!

[@bakugbacon9472]

Shiek is Z tier for a reason, uncontested top 1

[@AcidArmy_]

🤨

[@vnil]

🤨

[@IcebergSSBU]

Can joker and Greninja do this!?

[@ashtoric]

*laughs in good recovery*

[@DanielNapoli-vk2lj]

You could even survive doing bouncing fish into kalos wall after that👀

[@Primal-Rose]

How many majors have you won?

[@JollyRoger7114]

I've thought about doing this with Greninja for a while.

[@coltonreed2107]

Can you do a raindrop tutorial?? I’ve been trying to lab it for a min but can’t figure out what’s wrong. Falling through the plat I only get one hit :(

[@bibbyboxx2219]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2SpqX5_rb9gfrs Watch this.

[@KangasKong9944]

Can this work with joker as well?

[@dannythekhexpert6468]

Sora mains breathing a sigh of relief lol

[@ExileOfSand]

Double the Void teachers

[@tommyreese9660]

My dude love you bro 😎

[@slokeyyawns]

My greninja mains know what’s up

[@Za_Phantom]

I've been trying to do it for months with joker I haven't done it successfully once yet ;-;

[@rn4920]

This is the type of content missing from ultimate - nowadays it’s all clickbait and casual games. I’ve missed the substance, the learning, the structure. Thanks Void

[@malakaimanik]

Are you able to footstool after the up air or is it not enough time?

[@malakaimanik]

This might be character dependent if it is a real thing

[@saika1615]

I was gone for so long that Void already got down a new kill confirm 😂😭😭

[@oofumbles]

Greninja can do this as well, but I've never tried it against a real person so I'm not sure how viable it is lol

[@eliotvega5823]

Man this is cool. But I wonder now: can Joker and Greninja do the same thing?

[@notueni]

Joker can, I've done it before.

[@eliotvega5823]

Cool!

[@헤헤-w8k]

I accually used this technique against my brother but because he always used snake and i messed it up all the time

[@ricorichardson5945]

Been seeing this with falco fair since S4

[@sourdough1297]

Wondering if Joker can do this too 🤔 Great vid tho mr void!

[@Lifeeee]

does this work with joker?

[@jamo1774]

This is a rly cool idea. Joker should be able to pull this off as well no?

[@LeafysHere]

ye but not as good tbh

[@jamo1774]

@@LeafysHere ik he has his guns amongst other things. But jw if it would work the same

[@LeafysHere]

@@jamo1774 i just told u its the same but not as useful his upair dragdowns like sheik

[@Sancnea]

Ah yes! The very fair fair setup :)

[@fastboot0326]

I think you can do this with Pichu