Shen Yun: Why is the New York Times Attacking this Arts Group?

[@Michael-Moo]

I started watching this channel 10 years ago. This is certainly a new chapter lol

[@hehe-mq2bk]

I'm a bit surprised actually. This channel wasn't THIS political before and I was certainly not expecting this guy to be a Falun gong member/Supporter LMAOOO. How bizarre

[@ShockOfGayness]

FAKE CHINESE CULT

[@zoez7270]

I like this channel exactly because the hosts possess interity and morals to expose CCP's darkness.

[@ZhuZheng]

@@hehe-mq2bk Sometimes during your work you have to take position. You can stay neutral. So i think this video is good . POlitics is when you want to win election. THis is to defend a true traditionnal chinese show . It is like tibetans artists who use their arts for the freedom of tibet . it is not politics it is defend values and traditionnal things

[@yeeetingrespectfully7592]

@@zoez7270 Falun Gong's media business model is built on literally solely producing CCP-related content.

[@ZenonDolnyckyj]

Excellent informative breakdown.

[@judithmareslopez8250]

Saludos. Pienso que Shen Yun es espectáculo de primer nivel que es presentado en muchos países y han tenido muy buenos comentarios.

[@albertroman8380]

Yeah, The NY Times article was one-sided; it was as if the reporters were trying hard to fit their narrative rather than conduct honest an investigation. They could easily have found dozens and dozens of former performers who were positive about Shen Yun, but they seemed to focus entirely on nine former disgruntled performers. Shen Yun performers love traditional Chinese culture, but they aren't afraid to expose current human rights abuse in China, BUT the NY Times has a history of downplaying and even denying the Chinese Communist Party's brutality particularly towards practitioners of Falun Gong. To me, the fact that Ms. Didi Tatlow, a former NY Times writer, was shut down by her NY Times editors when trying to cover forced organ harvesting of Falun Gong practitioners - the crime of the century, in my opinion - clearly reveals the lack of professionalism NY Times demonstrates.

[@km11playerxd64]

When I come to think why I started to actually learn chinese I think about novels, donghua or even just my curiosity. But to be real, I started after going to a Shen Yun show with my mother. That really inspired me. So I find these articles really sad for various motives.

[@lorelim.r.9739]

He has seen the Shen Yun show and it is truly extraordinary, the best dancers and top-notch music.

[@CB-es8zf]

Thanks for clearing it up and giving some insight as to why the NYT may wanna take such a stance now.

[@discursion]

Thanks for bringing awareness to the situation.

[@Oni-Ryu8]

Awesome video bro

[@e4eleanor2816]

Shared from the roof tops. Thank you for your wonderful journalism 🫶 8:32

[@lillygarcia-sy7wy]

¡Un espectáculo hermoso! Que nos recuerda los valores de la humanidad. A través de la danza transmitiendo su gracia y belleza, paz y armonía ❤

[@Gouken.07]

Will you guys be covering the new Journey to the West game Black Myth Wukong?

[@by.jenniferpascual]

❤Amo Shen Yun! Es un espectáculo hermoso. Magistral y sublime. Además me encanta que esté rescatando una cultura milenaria que ha sido exterminada por el platino comunista chino. Así mismo nos informa del peor genocidio de nuestros tiempos: la persecución hacia la hermosa y pacífica práctica también milenaria Falun Dafa. Aquí en México hay sitios de práctica gratuitos y todos son muy amables personas.

[@rafaelarriagamoreno5492]

Increíble espectáculo , lo recomiendo , apto para toda la familia , el mejor show que he visto en mi vida

[@colleenm9188]

Thank you for your report. It provides a great balance to the NYT articles, which seemed surprisingly one-sided. Shen Yun dancers work hard to produce beautiful programs, preserving Chinese classical dance

[@ShockOfGayness]

FUCK THIS CULT

[@EadricRicmund]

Honestly I am still waiting for an investigative journalist that is not related to the CCP or Falun Gong to write an article about this. Cause my view of Falun Gong, having some of my spiritual teachers being ex-Falun Gong members, is that the group is wrongfully persecuted and the belief system is something that is orthodox, no where near heretical. If I want to nitpick is the Falun Dafa system, when practiced with intent and sincerity, results in mystical powers a bit to fast in comparison to other spiritual belief systems such as Kundalini, Kriya, or the basic Pranja that is talked about in Buddhist scriptures. My only gripe with the group in modern times is they are going a bit too political in my opinion. There are good articles in Da Qi Yuan newspaper, but there are also quite a bit of propaganda and conspiracy theories in there as well. In other words, I have mixed feelings about the group as a whole.

[@pawoon]

Because it is put on by falun gong. Didn't realize this channel is falun gong

[@LaMadameWang]

yep, this channel is CIA funded, just like falun gong :)

[@BM-hy9pu]

Interesting, makes you think

[@thuanhaminh3166]

This is a beautiful Shen Yun. My family and I enjoyed it very much!

[@catsreading]

NYTimes wasn't fair to Shen Yun. Nobody expects a media company to be friendly, but their reporting was so flawed, it wasn't fair to the subject matter at all. Terrible reporting.

[@12061988]

Damn, the comments here are rad. I guess the CCP isn't sending their best😅

[@lisamomon6793]

Falun gong took off n china people seem to like it. ( Maybe to many) Regular folks were doing the practice more than tai chi for awhille anyway. It made the goverment nervous then a threat

[@LaetitiaRodriguesNA]

Finally, a bit of clarity amidst the lies.

[@MustAfaalik]

For the truth read the life of the founder & the interviews done with Times & The Economists.

[@okwatever3582]

IMO Shenyun has two sides. They were initially lead by Li hongzhi as a very peaceful and presents a serene. They were the victims of CCP. However, after many of them were arrested after the 80s and 90s, most of the falun believers fled to the US. It’s understandable they developed a vendetta against the CCP since they were forced to give up their freedom to the CCP for just the sake of being too influential in China. However, after they came to the US, they started developing into an extreme hatred towards CCP. Which is Understandable. Yet personally I don’t agree with their stance and ideology, yet I know they have their reasons to hate the CCP as they’re simply the victims.

[@ZhuZheng]

there is no hate. If you take time to read the book of falun gong you will know that they practice forgiveness like Nelson Mandela understand in the past

[@eefrank-y9l]

It's anti persecution by exposing CCP's dark evil sides.

[@MrHonkler]

Bless you for speaking out about Falun Gong

[@ShockOfGayness]

FUCK JESUS TOO.

[@nicoluna5234]

It is a shame that a show so professional and of excellence is attacked by that article published in the NYT

[@ShockOfGayness]

FUCK YOUR CULT

[@RaymondLi604]

Beware conflation. Do watch The New Atlas, Thinkers Forum, etc for better geo-political perspective. This channel name is somewhat assuming 🤔

[@hehe-mq2bk]

do you not think Falun gong is a cult?

[@learnchinesenow]

no not at all, its a traditional Buddhist meditation practice

[@ShockOfGayness]

@@learnchinesenow YOU LIAR ITS A CULT

[@rsliu4646]

@@learnchinesenow Sorry it's bullshit to call it anything starting with Buddhist. You could say it's a kind of "meditation practice" or a new age religion. But please do not call it Buddhist of anything if you have some basic understanding of Buddhism.

[@misterdd7239]

its a cult.

[@edwardsnowden8821]

found the cult member​@@learnchinesenow

[@kevinmurker8980]

Wait a minute. I thought Shen Yun was supported by the CCP?

[@learnchinesenow]

No, it is not.

[@gingermintrose]

The representation of Chinese culture is terrific. But we see Shen Yun for what it is, even without the NYT piece. I chose to see your video when the content was educational. And so far, even with your advertising and strong affiliation with Shen Yun, your channel has yet to become politicalized. I hope that you will continue to educate people about the Chinese language and culture, not politics or the cult and putrid news of Epoch Times.

[@ZhuZheng]

Sometimes during your work you have to take position. You can stay neutral. So i think this video is good . POlitics is when you want to win election. THis is to defend a true traditionnal chinese show . It is like tibetans artists who use their arts for the freedom of tibet . it is not politics it is defend values and traditionnal things

[@CB-es8zf]

Interested in hearing what “we” see Shen Yun as. And people often throw around the word cult when referring to Falun Dafa or those aligned with them. Care to elaborate?

[@Adventures_in_the_north]

Thank you for the clarification and all the information you provided. To me, having watched Shen Yun, it inspired me personally as an artist and I felt deeply what impact art can have to the audience. I've watched many perfornances in my life and nothing compares to it. And it goes back to being a refined art form that obvioussly has very high standards! Nothing can really represent what it is like to watch the show live.

[@lauraespinosagonzalez1762]

Now days we must be aware about the true At the information that comes to us . Thanks for speakimg nearest the true. I dont believe in slandering información, like the one from NY Times about Shen Yun

[@yangtao2763]

@@ZhuZheng can you stop copying&pasting the same nonsense again and again? lol

[@cesarvidelac]

Don't forget ancient China was profoundly authoritarian literally from day one, "before comunism". I think the repression is real but have my doubts about the organ harvesting thing. The ideological war against freedom of thought and speech is enough and the organ harvesting question is just a distraction.

[@sirllamaiii9708]

Like chiang said, if we win I'll go down as the founder of a great Republic, and if we lose I'll go down as a dictator. Something like that

[@ZhuZheng]

" organ harvesting question is just a distraction. False lawyers and doctors and politicians of different country recognize it even Senators Australia some days ago

[@zhyi281008963]

我是中国人 你在胡说。法轮功是中国人公认的邪教 残害人民 非法敛财 还要颠覆政府 这些都是他们做过的！

[@latiendaca1773]

Jared, Ben, Are you guys helping this Chinese group in millions of tax evasion???

[@ZhuZheng]

where you take this statement or information ? if it is from the chinese regime. it sould be better you don't repeat it

[@eefrank-y9l]

Are you the one who paid $50/time to help CCP spread the rumors???

[@jamesmorris2554]

Holy shit. This is an insane propaganda piece

[@learnchinesenow]

Hi there, I would call this an opinion piece

[@MustAfaalik]

@@learnchinesenow Only your paid opinion & not the truth.🤪

[@eefrank-y9l]

I am sure you talk about the NYT's one

[@MustAfaalik]

@@eefrank-y9l Are you sure? He said "THIS"! And i agree it is propaganda.

[@eefrank-y9l]

@@MustAfaalik Nobody cares your option 🙂

[@Barbarossa-heir]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou]

Let me preface by saying that I am no fan of the CCP. I frankly hate the CCP and hate all forms of nationalism, including Chinese nationalism. I am rooting for Taiwanese independence and the re-liberalization of China (i.e., the reversal of what Xi Jinping has done to the country). That said, this video is not being candid about Shen Yun’s affiliations. I frankly don’t care about the Falun Gong’s beef with the CCP. I typically root for the underdog, which would certainly be the Falun Gong, but credible sources suggest they have some beliefs which frankly make the CCP look rational by comparison. But moreover, I care about my own country’s politics. And the fact is that the Falun Gong, in association with its publication The Epoch Times, has decided to cast its lot with Trump and his brand of conspiracy theories and demonization of Democrats and liberals. Sorry, but that’s bullshit. Americans across the political spectrum oppose the CCP, so for them to pick a side and sow division and hatred among Americans by indulging in right-wing propaganda is frankly disrespectful to the country that graciously took them in. I had actually purchased front-row seats to see Shen Yun, but after I researched them and learned of their connections to The Epoch Times and their institutional support of Trump and right-wing propaganda, I demanded a refund and will never support them, even if we share a mutual enemy in the CCP. It was a huge mistake for them to pick a side and alienate / demonize half of Americans. To the narrator of this video (sorry, I don’t know your name, even though I’ve watched you since the Off the Great Wall days), this is nothing personal against you, but this group’s decision to play sides in domestic American politics will inevitably have consequences. Trump is hardly any better than the CCP, and siding with Trump over the CCP is like siding with the Soviets over the Nazis, or vice versa. Sometimes, two opposing forces are both wrong, and the only decent choice is to oppose both.

[@Adventures_in_the_north]

It's sad you didn't watch it to form your own opinion. Because it has nothing to do with politics. Shen Yun is a high quality performance that shows the beauty of China. I don't understand the confusion. I mean, epoch times is a totally different entity and by the way maybe you should go and read epoch times articles yourself because I havent seen what you're saying.

[@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou]

@@Adventures_in_the_north I've done plenty of research-certainly more than anyone who just watched a Shen Yun show. I know that the people behind Shen Yun are the same people behind The Epoch Times, and I've seen enough The Epoch Times ads to know I don't want to financially support the people behind it. I've also read content on The Epoch Times and don't care to financially support a religious cult whose primary audience is far-right lunatics.

[@Sweeteeeeee]

There are always good and bad in confusion and it's sad that you are stuck in this mess... I think sometimes we overjudge people or things too much, too early... we don't give them chances to fix their mistakes...as noone is not perfect and everyone makes mistakes... Our heart is just too smalllllllllll.....??? In the past most of Romans and Jewish people thought Jesus Christ was bad and they killed him, history past by and people understand how great He was... A big lesson???

[@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou]

@@Adventures_in_the_north Apparently KZbin removed my comment. How frustrating. I won't re-type it all, other than to say that I've done AMPLE research-far more so than 99% of the people watching Shen Yun. I know that the people behind Shen Yun are the same people behind The Epoch Times; this is widely known and reported. I don't care how nice the dancing is if I'm ultimately funding a pro-Trump cult. And yes, I've read The Epoch Times. They make an effort to present themselves as just a regular newspaper, but if you click around enough and especially if you see their ads and receive their emails, the truth becomes quickly clear.

[@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou]

@@Sweeteeeeee I'm not suggesting anybody kill anybody, so that's a pretty poor analogy. I simply don't want to give money to a pro-Trump organization. The weird cult beliefs are a whole other matter, and it's hard to know what exactly they believe, since they are conservative with how much they're willing to say in a public forum like their Epoch Times website. If reporting is to be believed, their beliefs are as reprehensible as their support of Trump. Anyway, it's my money, and I have a right to spend or withhold it as I please. I did my research, and this is my conclusion.

[@ynnusliewkamwah7146]

From this video on I unsubscribe ur channel bcos u guys think falungong is good

[@Sweeteeeeee]

could you tell me why you think Falun Gong isn't good? As most of people in my family have been praticing Falun Gong since 2017 and have benefited a lot from it... and if the principles of Truth, Compassion, and Forbearance are not good, what are good?

[@MustAfaalik]

@@Sweeteeeeee You & family are suckers. Read the life of your god & the interviews done with Times & The Economists.

[@huangec]

​@@Sweeteeeeee I've seen a few of the videos put out by Epoch Times during the covid-19 pandemic. As someone who had studied science and has many friends in the medical, including a couple of epidemiologists, I can tell you without a doubt that they are willingly spreading misinformation. That itself should tell you all you need to know about them.

[@kmich7660]

Probably because they couldn't find anything else to attack anymore. Next the toilet bowl? 😅

[@gingermintrose]

Also, I watched it once, and I was not satisfied or disappointed by the mediocrity of the presentation. No matter how high the dancers could jump or turn, the storylines and singing were stale and hyped. We could not wait to get out of the performance.

[@am_I_or_am_I_not]

Same here, waste of money

[@zoez7270]

That says a lot about your Your taste 😂😂😂

[@Cent4man]

Shortly after I started watching your channel, all of my friends in china cut off contact with me. I had assumed it had to do with crack down on the use of VOIP protocols used to get around censorship but, now I suspect I was blacklisted because I was watching a channel connected to Fallon gong. I know nothing of that practice and have zero interest in it but, guilt by association. It makes me sad. The truth is, all religions are cultish. Many People by nature are drawn to such things. I’m sure if the truth were known, there was much more to the crack down on that practice that was said. I’d bet the reasons were more personal and included conflict between the party leader and the leaders of Falon Gong.

[@sinnieleeonUtube]

Fallon gong is cult. That's why.

[@ZhuZheng]

The chinese regime want people think falun gong is not good. They tried many ways to do it . But Falun Gong is good and lead a peaceful resistance

[@ZenonDolnyckyj]

The problem with the "c" word, is that there is a dictionary definition and then there is the societal one. When you use that word you evoke delusional mass suicide, leaving ones family and some group cheating people out of their money. Beliefs do not equal cult.

[@djcomplain]

Chinese bad Western Good

[@ShockOfGayness]

FUCK JESUS

[@dorarie3167]

This is a Chinese propaganda channel, correct?

[@SunYat-sen]

no it's legit

[@Oni-Ryu8]

It's against what the communist chinese government has and is doing to innocent people

[@NightDoge]

Well, they acknowledge Taiwan as a country, which the CCP denies and describes as a breakaway state.

[@Etherealisme]

Nope

[@franc6910]

No

[@zhyi281008963]

You can do an issue related to the cults that have appeared in China from ancient times to the present. Welcome to China to see and visit China to see if Falun Gong is a cult recognized by the Chinese people.

[@eefrank-y9l]

No need to go to China. People all around the world recognize the CCP is the cult, including Chinese people