The Worst Gen 3 Pokémon

[@syah7991]

Spinda has 60 in each stat because that makes its stat total 360, and it is always spinning around 360°

[@venomgoldenreaper3834]

Also it isnt that bad with contrary superpower lol setups p fast

[@LeviAuren]

Spinda boss fight with base 360 in every stat

[@rainbowskin3379]

@@venomgoldenreaper3834 Spinda didn't have contrary in gen 3

[@CartersRemasters]

He’s a fool who refuses to look beyond stats. Spinda was not designed to be used for serious battle, it was used to show off a different type of Pokémon. This guy is a asshole.

[@Jlaps941]

They need to give him an evolution with 540 BST so he pulls a 180 and is finally good 😂

[@nightmare348]

Poor Plusle and Minun. They were practically engineered to be used for double battles, and yet they are so terrible that you can't even really effectively use them in a double battle.

[@Cysco8575]

The most ironic thing about Plusle and Minun is that in Pokemon Colosseum, a game which only fighting method is through double battles, they give you a Plusle as a gift but you need to trade a Minun from RSE if you want to use them both during the story. And you can trade between games only if you have a purified pokemon in Colosseum and the National Dex in RSE. I really would like to know what the developers where thinking when taking these decisions. Another thing about this Plusle is that the one they give you is level 13 while most of your mons are above level 30 by that time and is pretty overshadowed by Flaffy (which you get BEFORE the Plusle already at lvl 30 and evolves into Ampharos when you purify it) and Raikou (if you use the time flute to purify it right away).

[@misterbadguy7325]

"We're going to make a duo designed for double battles!" >makes both of them weak to Earthquake

[@MatthewCenance]

@@Cysco8575 Wait, no, you can only trade Pokémon to Pokémon Colosseum after beating Evice. The trade facilities aren't accessible in that game until then. So you only have postgame stuff left at that point where you can use Plusle and Minun.

[@Cysco8575]

@@MatthewCenance Oh, you're right! I got it wrong, i've never could trade pokemon from Colosseum anyway so i forget about it once i finish the game but you still need the Nat Dex in RSE to trade a Minum to Colosseum. At least if you really wan to use the duo you can level up them to lvl 60 or so and beat the postgame with them but up to that point almost every enemy knows Earthquake so... it's not worth it.

[@evenhartwick4422]

also arnt they version exclusives? i swear plusle is a sapphire exclusive and minun was a ruby exclusive

[@Alienldr]

To make matters worse for Feebas, each pokemon has a "sheen" status when it comes to eating pokeblocks. If their sheen is maxed out, that pokemon can never again eat another pokeblock. If Feebas's beauty stat wasn't high enough by the end of that, which is easy if your feebas was the wrong nature or you didn't give it exclusively decent pokeblocks, then your Feebas can never evolve, period.

[@guitarlesson666]

And worst of all, it has this strict nature based on the evolution with the pockeblocks that if you have the wrong nature feebas it also doesn't evolve

[@matthewkuscienko4616]

​@guitarlesson666 That's not actually true, as far as I'm aware. While the nature of your Feebas will make it easier or harder to increase your beauty stat, it's not required to have a specific nature. That said, any nature that raises special attack (those being modest, mild, rash and quiet) will make it easier, but conversely, those that lower your special attack (those being adamant, impish, careful, and jolly) will make it harder to max out your beauty stat. This is because you need to use dry Pokeblocks for beauty, and rather they like or dislike the taste of that flavor depends on rather the nature in question raises or lowers your special attack stat. Again, it's not required to have a special attack boosting nature, but it does make it easier, and it works with Milotic having better special attack anyways

[@ajflink]

Yes. Also, oh! It has been a couple days since you last caught a Feebas and need another now? Well, now you need to rediscover which specific water tiles it has changed to likely since then. Also, to make things easier, have a Gulpin in the first slot of the party fainted with Sticky Hold. In the second slot, have Ralts, Kirlia, or Gardevoir with Synchronize and of the Modest Nature or any that explicitly give a boost to Special Attack.

[@Hutch2Much]

better hope you caught a female feebas to breed!

[@joshtheryuk]

Once you caught one, can't you just breed another? ​@@ajflink

[@Firescizor]

Clamperl is deffo a special mention here, lmao. Clamperl is a Pokémon that you can only find by diving, aka you need not only one, but TWO water related HM's to find it (Surf and Dive). By the point you can find Clamperl (after the freaking 7th badge of the game) you've most likely found/trained your main Water type of the Team. Mudkip being the most popular starter in Hoenn already puts every candidate for the water slot in a tough spot, so, amidst the one million other options you get earlier in this game, imagine how bad and unlucky it must feel to be Clamperl (like... all the gyms that a Water type helps you defeat have already gone by!). After the dreadful task of finding this "outstanding creature", you learn (supposedly) of it's spliting evolutions. Said evolutions, that require you to go through a side quest involving more surfing, more diving, a lost Scanner in the Abandoned Ship, and trading it to Cpt. Stern for just ONE of the evolutionary items. Man, I sure do love split decisions about Pokémon I couldn't care less for... So, you finally did it. Let's say you want that sweet, pink, alluring Gorebyss (for God knows what reason). You have your Clamperl. You have your DeepSeaScale. It's finally time to use it and... oh... Clamperl is... a trade evolution... ahn? Wow... Like, it's baffling the hoops you have to go through to unlock the final evolutions of this pokémon. People nowadays talk a lot of crap about modern evolution methods like Galarian Yamask, Inkay or Hisuian Basculin, but you cannot convince me that the particular case of CLAMPERL wasn't bullshit already back in Gen 3!

[@cogboy3587]

Totally agree. Clamperl is such an obsure, out of the way pokemon that - as you say - comes after you've already encounter more than 2 dozen different water types already. I remember leveling Clamperl all the way to the mid level 90's because I had zero idea about the Tooth or Scale items and didn't understand trade evolutions. Even if I'd figured it out, you'd be left with... one out of two very mediocre mono-water types which come at a point in the game where they're not even useful. I've traded myself a clamperl/gorebyss into a new save file - and even then it's just... ok. Dosen't help that the other hard to get Mono-water type (i.e. Milotic) is vastly superior to either Huntail or Gorebyss in most catagories.

[@diegoxavier9107]

The thing is, Clamperl actually has damage output, because the evolution items boost its stats to ridiculous levels when equipped. It's not great, but it's about as effective than Relicanth, if not more so

[@kirbyofthestarsfan]

Trade evolutions are such an awful mechanic, it's basically the cuckold version of evolution since you're giving your hard earned mon to someone else

[@thohillesland]

@@diegoxavier9107 100% agree, to put the absurd power of deep sea tooth Clamperl into perspective, the only pokemon that has a higher attack/sp. attack then a Clamperl equiped with Deep Sea Tooth in gen 3 is a Soul Dew Latios. This means that Clamperl hits harder then insane stuff like Rayquaza and Deoxys Attack.

[@Farrise]

Clamperl holding a deep sea tooth has highest Special attack in the game :)

[@xRaymond9250]

I got so mad trying to get a Milotic (last one needed for the Pokedex) that my dad literally called Nintendo to say this evolution method was dumb.

[@chesterstevens8870]

That's a pro Dad move. As a fellow Dad I approve; the Council of Dads will hear about this stalwart champion.

[@rdubya7715]

That didnt happen dude, quit lying dork

[@RandalfElVikingo]

So Game freak decided to make it a trade evolution thanks to your dad.

[@1988M.]

😂😂

[@maxwellkennedy8397]

No he didn’t 😂

[@bennconner1195]

It’s also possible to mess up febas’s evolution if you max out it’s shine before you get it’s Beauty stat high enough.

[@Amelia4111]

There should be 2 E's in Feebas! And we don't use the word its as a pronoun if there's an apostrophe in it!

[@TheBlueArmageddon]

@@Amelia4111 Ok dude

[@DefinitelyNotAFerret]

Hot profile pic

[@Mijzelffan]

I love the rare pokemon in hoenn, makes the region feel a lot more unique. A lot of these pokemon aren't even used by any npc trainers either

[@ZebNyan96]

For me it's rare pokemon like Chimecho that make these games really interesting (when trying to find them). It would be really boring if every pokemon would be as strong as Salamence. Some pokemon just make the world more diverse and interesting to explore.

[@jaretco6423]

I always thought it was from Gen. 4 because of it's pre-evolution introduced in that gen.

[@yannickgrignon2473]

One of my favourite pokemon KZbinrs used the term "NPC-type pokemon" (specifically in reference to finneon and luvdisc), which, while accurate in its derision, is also kind of true that some pokemon just exist to round out the world and don't need to be great in battle

[@ZebNyan96]

@@yannickgrignon2473 Do you remember who that tuber is?

[@yannickgrignon2473]

@@ZebNyan96 Reverend. I don't know if his style is for everyone, but I adore it. His Pokémon Cryptids video is my favourite video about pokemon on KZbin

[@ZebNyan96]

@@yannickgrignon2473 Thanks for the recommendation!

[@brachy6695]

So here's my Feebas horror story, a few years ago i downloaded an emulator in my phone and chose to finally raise a proper Feebas into a Milotic, went great, Milotic is such a fun pokemon to use but the evolution process is very tedious, all great there. Later on, i wanted to do another run but in my computer, so i downloaded the game, went throught the hell that is catching a Feebas and surprise! If the internal battery of the game has run out, time won't progress, berries will not grow and you wont be able to raise its beauty, so there i was, frozen in time with a Feebas that would never evolve.

[@lvl5Vaporeon]

I was like you and I wandered all over for berries. I got so close...but then I saw that my feebas hated blue pokeblocks... Oh no.

[@Xpwnxage]

That's amazing

[@elijahcruz6633]

Evolving a Feebas into a Milotic doesn't need repeated farming of Berries through Berry Trees; I personally did it using a Feebas (Modest), all available farmable Kelpsy Berries in a normal playthrough and few Chesto Berries and made Pokeblocks in Lilycove City. Note: this will be easier if you used the one-time use Pamtre Berry that you can get from the Berry Master, but I didn't since I also had a dead battery at the time and can't get another one. Getting better at making Pokeblocks and a nature that likes Blue Pokeblocks are key, and even the finite stock of berries is enough.

[@M1keybe4r]

If you're playing on pc depending on which emulator you use there should be an easy fix for the dead internal battery

[@Javiercar]

@@M1keybe4r is there a way for visual boy advance emulator without having to start the game from 0?

[@noraslob5461]

I had that feebas horror story thing with Murkrow in Fire Red. I hadn't caught Slowking yet, so there was an open spot behind it in the dex, and I was *convinced* Murkrow should evolve. Tried all sorts of thing. Was like level 65 at the end.

[@shepskydad]

Aww what a commitment. It really should have evolved in its debut

[@robertlupa8273]

😂

[@Kali_Krause]

Murkrow wouldn't get an evolution until gen 4 with Honchkrow. Which you had to wait until after Cynthia and Sinnoh E4 to use Pal Park to migrate Murkrow or catch one in Diamond version. Then you had to wait til the 7th gym to find a Dusk Stone

[@robertlupa8273]

@@Kali_Krause And the worst thing? They added a Dusk Stone to the hidden part of Wayward Cave, the one that doesn't require Strength anymore. Did they forget to include Murkrow or Misdreavus in the Plat dex or something?! Without trading, that Dusk Stone is completely useless!

[@slyfox7452]

Murkrow is great even without an evo

[@DangerousPython]

Masquerain should definitely be here if it wasn’t for intimidate

[@shepskydad]

It’s the only thing that saved it tbh

[@DangerousPython]

@@shepskydad I actually love the design but part of me wishes it kept the water typing from its prevolution

[@Machinereplica]

I ran a bug only run and Masquerain was my special attacker. No STAB, but sunny day and solar beam were a great combo.

[@MordenTheCoolestJumpluff]

@@Machinereplica out of curiousity, Was Volbeat your Bug type attacker? Cuz as far as i know, It's the only bug type in gen 3 that actually has a good bug type move (Signal beam)

[@Machinereplica]

@@MordenTheCoolestJumpluff sorry for the long delay, I didn't see your comment! I ran signal beam, confuse ray, thunderbolt, and tail glow. Usually I baton passed to it from a Ninjask for insane speed and attack boosts. Any trainer that let me set that up got swept.

[@Arvenyte]

Just a small correction. You don't need to max out Feebas' beauty stat at 255. Instead you just need 170+. You can get it easily with 5 kelpsy berries and 5-6 oran berries on the 1 npc blender. You get 6 kelpsy in the area above the exit of meteor falls, while you get oran everywhere.

[@kefkapalazzo1]

I never knew that haha. Only had a feebas in SV and platinum though

[@kefkapalazzo1]

O wait I had one in gen 6 and 7 because I decided to complete the dex a couple of years ago

[@lloydster9000]

Feebas? More like Feebastard.

[@Dawg347]

Feebasshole

[@armorbearer9702]

Nosepass was the one that drove me crazy. I kept checking the the pokedex for the location and it kept telling me that it is on the island. I kept searching the cave, but young me never thought of smashing the rocks in the cave.

[@MrCheeze]

You were concerned about players having a Feebas but having no idea how to evolve it... but let's be real, nobody's catching a Feebas without a guide in the first place. Anyway, of the Pokemon you brought up, Chimecho is the one that I think adds the least to the game. The others, even when they aren't very useful in battle, still have memorable characteristics of their own. Nosepass as a reward for those who DO go back and mess with the rock smash mechanic, for example. And certainly Luvdisc matters a lot for non-combat reasons. Chimecho is just kinda... there and forgettable. Fun fact, it's actually the last Pokemon by index number, after Deoxys, which means it may have been a late addition to the game.

[@shepskydad]

That little detail of Chimecho at the end makes perfect sense considering where it is and how you never see it from another trainer in a playthrough.

[@AkamexAris1023]

@@shepskydad There's a trainer in one of the later Trick House mazes! Would never see it in a normal playthrough unless you went back there to complete it entirely

[@MarioMastar]

@@AkamexAris1023 I know I definitely had to look online to figure out what I was missing. Chimecho became my least favorite pokemon due to it using "take down" when it had 1 hp after a false swiping. As the OP said "certain pokemon at least have the charm of being a reward for going back to forgotten areas" but Chimecho feels like the game devs deliberately giving us a F*CK you with it knowing Take down and using it at 1HP. as if they aren't wasting enough of our time. That I can't forgive. Give me a pokemon with 30 base stat across the board and one move and I'll be fine, give me a pokemon that deliberately kills itself while I'm trying to catch it at a 2% encounter rate that is just a check on the pokedex and it might as well be Porygon at the gamecorner....at least I can buy RNG's favor if I'm going to waste my time....

[@JDoradoTube]

Not quite a horror story, but I remember hunting for feebas for 3 hours on my little gameboy adv with the purple spiral night light thing attached to it.....super frustrating but taught me patience as a lad!

[@MediaByADF]

Feebas thrived in that early 2000s space where not every piece of information was immediately available online at your fingertips. I don’t think I ever caught one legitimately by fishing in gen 3.

[@EuroMIX2]

I'm honestly not sure if I've ever gotten one in the main series. I think the first time was in Pokémon Go, and it's a bit of a hassle there as well.

[@IFuckingLoveFrenchToast]

No way you forced Honchcrow into existance

[@thekiss2083]

That's why you gotta pony up another $20 for the official strategy guide 😂

[@joshuawidener8407]

Lol I was in highschool when the games came out. All the information was in fact available online immediately so you are wrong.

[@MediaByADF]

@@joshuawidener8407 what a pleasant comment that misses the point 👏

[@shadowslash932]

So happy Sableye wasnt mentioned as it is my favourite from gen 3 and my favourite overall. Even Mawille is pretty good. They just have such cool lore and designs. I remember using one as a kid as it helps a lot during the early game and then its hard to box as you grow attached

[@Amelia4111]

There should be only one L in Mawile!

[@MarioMastar]

Sableye is the only pokemon gamefreak seemed to design with balance in mind. they knew it had no weakness at all (until Fairies were introduced many years later) and so it's weaker stats and movepool kind of make up for that. Same for Electross having levitate as an electric type. I really genuinely respect that. They know players would abuse the pokemon if it had decent stats on top of that. Now if only they thought of balancing dragon types, all of them double weak to Ice.... yet Ice is the worst type defensively having no resists except itself, and generally being slower than dragons. Took them until Gen NINE to fix Ice types...and that was after Fairies put dragons in thier place AND buffed poison and offensive steel types. Hehe eventually they fixed it. but good on Sableye. Mawile is also one of my favorite designs from Gen 3.

[@robertlupa8273]

I can't really think of any other bad Hoenn Pokemon, besides maybe *Skitty/Delcatty.* = Its stats are barely higher than Spinda's with a similarly equal distribution (until Gen 6 where it got 20 more speed. Woohoo). = It can only be found on one route with a 2% encounter rate, though it _is_ very early into the game. = Not that it matters though since its level up movepool is very meh, with the best offensive move being either Tackle or Double Slap for a long time and being too weak to be worth using TMs on, like with some other Pokemon on the list. = And worst of all, it's a stone evolution. A *Moon Stone* evolution to be exact. Which can only be found in Meteor Falls, around the 4th badge. Way too late for such a weak Pokemon.

[@shepskydad]

Honestly the Moon Stone being stuck at Meteor Falls is the biggest downside. Skitty will just get more and more outclassed and by the time you get Delcatty it’s almost already worse than everything else.

[@Olliemaxx1]

@@shepskydadTheres this one video where this guy’s Aggron lost to Wally’s Delcatty.

[@Grt_Sge]

Sharpedo and Crawfaunt mainly because they are massively held back by their typing. Two physical attackers but with no stab physical moves as their both special types 😂.

[@galvsparks6295]

They're definitely still ok tbh because they still have solid special attack stats

[@yorecf9641]

@@galvsparks6295 Sharpedo is at least. Crawdaunt only has the 20 base power Knock Off for dark STAB.

[@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy]

​@@yorecf9641 Crawdaunt didn't have Crunch then? 💀

[@yorecf9641]

@@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy it does in FRLG, but not in the Hoenn games, for some reason. Not even Emerald.

[@thohillesland]

@@yorecf9641 Crawdaunt is still a water type with good coverage in surf, ice beam, brick break, and sludge bomb + more. tbf That is still better then like 60% of the hoenn dex

[@queenofthesalt5199]

Evo horror story- My first Pokémon game was an online emulated version of Pokémon Crystal, and I didn’t know how the evolution worked at that time. Now, I had a Poliwhirl by the time of the elite 4 that out leveled most everything else, and didn’t know how to evolve it. I just decided to beat the elite 4 with it instead, and just rebattled the E4 with only my Poliwhirl until I beat it. Poliwhirl was level 85 by the time I won, and it took over 100 hours.

[@shepskydad]

RIP. I mean not being a fighting type probably helped a bit for the E4!

[@benamisai-kham5892]

Funny story about feebas: i didnt know it evolved into milotic as a kid (got the game when i was 6) and my older brother convinced me you could take the rocket to the moon to catch milotic and spent longer than i want to admit trying to figure out how to unlock space travel to catch a milotic because it looked so pretty. He also started a decade of me despising oddish through that exact copy of ruby, he gave me a completed copy, dex filled but with almost every box filled with Oddish that he gamesharked in. I had friends make fun of me for believing my brother but c'mon WHAT SIX YEAR OLD IS GONNA SEE FEEBAS AND SAY OH YEAH THAT EVOLVES INTO THIS BEAUTIFUL MILOTIC??? I didn't have Internet or any way to fact check this for nearly a decade after this. I only knew what I played and what others told me.

[@2pacisaliveee]

That’s some good memories right there tho

[@eyeloop1618]

A friend of mine caught a Feebas (it was so rare and i havr never seen one) and we gave it all kind of blocks until we read it was the beauty stat the one to max out, but it was too late and Feebas couldn't eat more. We never got Milotic nor saw any Feebas again

[@EnglishLad]

@@eyeloop1618 and you didn’t think to breed it with a ditto?

[@amiosi]

I found a shiny Shuppet before finding Chimecho in a dex completion run. That mon is hot garbo

[@jaycob1830]

Delcatty had the worst stats of any fully evolved pokemon at the time. It was purely made for contests and contests only. It SUCKS in gameplay, one of the worst pokemon to use ever

[@YourVideosDogchitHeresWhy]

It had that attract ability

[@jaycob1830]

Used Plusle in Emerald, legit MVP caliber team member. I planned on just using it for fun but bro was the most crit happy pokemon I’ve ever used, thunderbolt wiping everything off the face of the earth. Maybe I’ll give Minun a go some day

[@eronbardiqi5286]

Call me crazy but I actually used a Plusle in my Emerald Playtrough all the way to the Pokemon League.

[@shepskydad]

Probably the best choice on the list so not too crazy!

[@megasean3000]

I’m using Plusle and Minun on an Emerald run at the moment. They aren’t bad, really. Vastly outclassed by Manectric, sure, but I still have fun bringing a gimmick Pokemon on playthroughs, and strong gimmicks are the best. I used an Aipom in my playthrough of Gold, and the little gal actually tanked an Outrage from Lance’s Dragonite. It’s things like this which makes good conversation pieces, as opposed to sweeping the Elite 4 with Pseudo-Legendaries. And Plusle and Minun are beasts in battle too, especially once you pony up $200,000 for 2 Thunderbolts at Mauville Game Corner. They now eviscerate anything that’s not a Ground-type.

[@shepskydad]

I was quite surprised how viable they are on their own. Even under leveled against Tate and Liza they put in some work (given that Thunder hit). It’s been interesting to play through and see which Pokémon are better than anticipated

[@lillipup_tamer1148]

I just think they are cute so I have used them by themselves on a lot of play through teams

[@Amelia4111]

There is no hyphen in pseudo legendaries!

[@EnglishLad]

While I agree with you that catching Feebas in gen 3 is an absolute ballache, I still believe it's worth catching one. Once you've caught it, you can take it to the daycare and breed it with a Ditto, then feed the resulting Feebas pokeblocks. That way, you're effectively raising a Milotic from birth, which is 100% worth it.

[@lvl5Vaporeon]

This guy is seriously underrated. Let me tell you how remarkable your work is right here in this comment. Take my like too!

[@thewildfirewarrior2773]

Oh, I actually used Volbeat in a playthrough before. It wasn't that bad in all honesty. Signal Beam is exclusive to it in these games, runs off its strangely decent attack stat, and is the second/third strongest Bug attack in the game, behind Megahorn (Heracross exclusive for STAB) and/or the fourth and fifth Fury Cutter attacks. It also has access to Tail Glow to patch up the poor special attack into something more usable. I believe the final moveset I ran with was Signal Beam, Tail Glow, Thunderbolt, and Giga Drain. Are there better mons to use? Oh god yes. But it was fun to use something I otherwise never would have.

[@jaschabull2365]

Fun fact: I put surf on my luvdisc and kept it in my party throughout the game, as I'd usually keep my HM-users in my team in order to get around the map. I hadn't at this point learned to relegate a specific pokémon to this role while leaving the rest of the party free for members who could actually fight, so I brought the thing all the way to the Elite 4. At least I got more mileage out of him than I got out of the illumise I turned Route 117 upside down several times to find (took me a few tries to actually catch one when I did find it) only to box it after realizing it couldn't do anything. I still have a soft spot for the li'l thing, though, maybe just because I like flappers? Volbeat also grew on me, what with the wild ones' annoying antics being enough to loop around to be hilarious in hindsight - those dang things just wouldn't let you touch them, and if you ever got through its confuse ray and several double teams, good luck getting another one before it makes that first attack all for nought with moonlight. Sure those traits probably don't have too many advantages once you catch it - you can't really get satisfaction out of being hair-pullingly annoying towards a computer that's physically incapable of becoming frustrated, and if you're fighting against a human player, they're probably packing something fast enough to one-shot it before it gets its pesky on, as in this context they can bring their aces instead of the hatchlings I would often try to use the bugs as grind-fodder for - all the same, though, the experiences I had with the fireflies made them some of the most memorable 'mons in gen 3, to the point that I actually like them, against all odds.

[@purpleomlet]

"An update to Pokemon storage." Man, this was one of the most important changes made to the Pokemon series, potentially the most important. If you didn't play through red/blue and silver/gold before playing any other games in the series you just cannot comprehend the immense QoL upgrade this was.

[@RS-yk7xh]

I only found a Feebas in Diamond on Mt. Coronet, and it took days if not weeks to raise its beauty stat to evolve.

[@illuminut909]

Actually at my first ever Sapphire playthrough i encountered Feebas at very first tile, but i run away thinking what "ugly fish" it is. Then when i decided to fill my pokedex, i find out he just "disappeared" from that stupid river and didn't found him after. That was the time when 11 y.o boy felt REAL REGRET

[@cobaltprime9467]

Volbeat and Illumise don’t deserve to exist. They’re the worst. Weak and pathetic Pokémon. Not even with interesting types. Why they’re in SV baffles me. They’re purely dex filler. I’d much rather have any other 2-stage line. I’m sure there’s a 3rd one to cut and we could have the Togekiss line.

[@crystalkirby]

Back in the day on Ruby I found the Feebas spot VERY easily and quickly, to the point where I thought it had a 100% encounter rate in that spot, however I always questioned when people said "It's so hard to find!" because I just went to the same 6 tiles and got one every fish 😂

[@sunflorence-59]

I think it's worth mentioning that Plusle and Minun do have a niche as fast encore users, which can also help to set up sweepers with agility and baton pass. Still, that's only a more technical niche that would most commonly be useful for challenge playthroughs rather than casual runs.

[@VersusThem]

In order to get a Milotic I had to hunt feebas... *TWICE* , because it turns out the tiles *CAN BLOODY CHANGE* , the tiles are reset randomly when the Dewford Trendy Phrase changes, and if you use regular beauty pokeblocks, you'll max out the amount your feebas can get and it won't evolve, so you'll need a new one, and if it's male (50%), you won't be able to breed him!!! Never change that damn phrase

[@EggboyYT]

I watched your gen 2 video this morning and was excited to see you'd be posting a gen 3 video today - great content! 👍

[@mairain6443]

i had a level 91 Feebas wondering why it won't evolve then feed blocks to max, i was like 1 point off the amount to evolve it... had to start again

[@nicholassmith8527]

Chimecho was the last pokemon i needed in one of my first sapphire runs as an 11 year old. I could not find that thing for the life of me. I had a players guide so i knew you could find it at mt pyre. Hours of searching, nothing. I even borrowed my neighbors action replay to try to get one, but i didnt really know what i was doing when entering codes. Somehow all of the pokemon were just... randomized. But no combination let find a wild chimecho. 199 out of 200 pokemon were caught when i started a new game. Fast forward to reaching mt pyer i noticed some grass at the top. Wouldnt you know it, one of the first pokemon i saw was a wild chimecho. Turns out while reading the players guide, 11 year old me thought the "summit of mt pyre" meant the bottom of the mountain, not the top of the mountain. Also fun fact, because i used my neighbors action replay i learned that chimecho's index number is after deoxys in pokedex order. Kinda leads me to believe chimecho was the last pokemon the be added to ruby and sapphire during development. Needless to say chimecho will always hold a special, yet frustrating, place in my heart.

[@FlareStorms]

12:17 Hey don't diss my boy dudunsparce

[@Amelia4111]

We do not refer to Pokemon as a boy or a girl!

[@hellothepixel1107]

As someone who got into evolving milotic after learning the method through online guides, I loved this process. Well, "loved", fishing was quite difficult and tedious. But planting berries every day while on the subway knowing in a few hours they'd be ripe for the picking, and being rewarded after it all with Milotic, a pokemon with an amazing design was worth it. Specially since I tried to catch Rayquaza after and Milotic was the only one in my team who could stand toe to toe with this mighty beast. I do not regret a second of it. Sure wish the game was more upfront about it... Even if realistically this is kind of the point. Community discussion, rumors, etc, are what Pokemon are built around.

[@dbzmaster1213]

I feel like Nosepass got the Onix treatment. They thought it would be a cool rock pokemon for the 1st gym, but didn't want to make it too hard for the players, so they just made its stats terrible.

[@andrewandreski2659]

Thinking back on it, wasn't Feebas the first if the esoteric, bs evolution methods?

[@zane1790]

So I knew EVERYTHING about feebas, I got it, maxed the beauty, did everything... but as a kid I didn't realize it had to level once AFTER max beauty... so I thought it needed literal max beauty, like it had to reach the end on that little pentagon chart. So I bred feebas over and over and over and over blending so many pokeblocks and never ever got milotic. Worst part? It was the last pokemon for my pokedex which I DESPERATELY wanted to do to finally say I finished one. Forever at 199/200 in ruby...

[@absolutezerochill2700]

15:00 dang, 2%? Must have gotten lucky. In my most recent emerald playthrough i stumbled upon it while looking for a Vulpix lol. In my original Ruby playthrough i had never seen it.

[@jamesrobson8308]

Castform can be actually really helpful as theres alot of weater setters you can get.

[@Footballer007-lz8pg]

My Feebas horror story is nearly maxing out it's Beauty stat but it being just short of evolving even though the green bar was essentially as far as it could go. So many blocks wasted.

[@Amelia4111]

We don't use the word its as a pronoun if there's an apostrophe in it!

[@alexbrennan5985]

I knew Feebas needed max beauty to evolve but I didnt understand how the pokeblocks worked so I had to breed like 10 Feebas to keep trying before they stopped eating

[@aynosekeponer]

I got a Feebas way back years ago in Emerald, and get it to level 100 without knowing how to evolve it. On the next generarion, i traded it on GTS for a shiny Palkia. Some of these just for show pokemon, but i just had that lvl 100 Feebas

[@stantheman9790]

I remember once on a blue moon when all the planets aligned i managed to catch a shiny Feebas on my emulator without cheats and evolved it to Milotic. I had a bad habit of using save states without actually saving the game and one day during battle the game soft locked so I had to reset to the last time I saved in-game, meaning right before I caught the Feebas. I was so mad that I didn't play again until a week later. And even lamer is that I resorted to cheating to recatch it lol

[@reptilesfishandmore]

Professor oak patting the Probopass on the nose and then it smacking him was funny to me for some reason 😂

[@SubwaySandwichBossIngo]

Actually, yes, I did find a Feebas in my old Sapphire. I somehow got lucky and got it on the very first water tile when you walk down those stairs to get to the water. I read about the beauty thing online, but I instantly knew I messed up when I saw the beauty stat wasn't max'd out and she wouldn't eat anymore. Another silly thing I had was with Shedinja. Somehow, despite having the knowledge with Feebas and Milotic, I didn't know for a while about how to obtain Shedinja. So I just raised a Ninjask to a really high level, and once it reached 100, I only decided then to look up how to get the darn thing. Kid me was sooooooo patient, compared to nearly 30 old me now.

[@alexandermoon7211]

the fact that they NERFED feebas' evolution from grind into trade SUCKS

[@aynosekeponer]

I remember searching a lot for Chimecho, never caught it and some friend traded me one, but maybe i was just searching on the wrong patch of grass

[@vicentegarcia6400]

I didn't had a feebas horror story and figured out the mechanics sooner than most people. The only feebas horror story is the picture on 14:28 living rent free on my head 😂😂😂

[@blackout3133]

not sure why you even considered encounter rate when making these videos. finding and catching rare Pokemon is the name of the game.

[@naamadossantossilva4736]

Finding those rare mons should be done by exploration and puzzle solving,not doing the same bullshit hundreds of times or reading the wiki.

[@evilgoose6768]

I'm currently doing an Emerald nuzlocke and no joke my Plusle saved my run. I was able to paralyse Winona's Altaria and then spamming spark along with some lucky paralysis got Altaria in the red, wasting Winona's potion and allowing my Swampert to finish her off when my Plusle died.

[@SaltM313]

Volbeat is KIND OF good for Wattson, with Confuse Ray, Double Team and Moonlight

[@Lugiahighway]

Had a play through w chimecho and I loved the guy but damn I was getting my ass beat w him

[@ATRichard]

Very good video and true stuff about Luvdisc lol. Still don’t understand to this day why it doesn’t evolve into Alomomola! My Feebas horror story for RSE is not just the difficulty of finding it, but the berry feeding process! You have to have the right berries to make blue and indigo Pokeblocks, and if you max out it’s eating before it’s beauty truly “maxed”, you can NEVER evolve it! I think I had to try like 4 or 5 times before actually getting a Milotic! Also, the tiles that you catch Feebas on change every day I recall, so if you didn’t catch a million once you found the right tile, you had hell to pay finding it again! Crazy stuff… But part of what makes the older Pokémon game’s so memorable - it was ACTUALLY a challenge unlike some of the new ones!

[@xConceptz1]

So what you’re saying is you’re very interested in our “Feebas Feedback” 😏

[@VoiceAnon]

Feebas has a special place in my heart, if only because I never caught it. You see, playing Emerald as a kid, I figured it just had a low spawn rate, so I kept fishing in that river. This resulted in me finding, and catching, my first shiny, Carvanha.

[@Azdaja13]

When I eventually did find a Luvdisc as a child (after years of searching on that route and never finding it), my Doduo accidentally KO-ed it and I had no idea that it was on specific tiles so I just didn't find another for like... years.

[@apertureemployee215]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Volbeat getting tail glow, a pretty good boosting move; which it can't really make use of because tail glow boosts special and all its level up moves are physical

[@ThePe5e]

At least it can learn good special moves with TMs. Its special attack stat sucks, though. And Tail Glow also only boosts its special attack by two stages in gen 3, not three stages like in later gens.

[@BlueAversion]

Kids, say no to subscribe beggars. Was getting so close to subscribing based on your content then you blew it.

[@RS-yk7xh]

Can you rank worst or best Pokémon in FRLG as well as other remakes?

[@evawhite1144]

I feel like you've missed Skitty and Delcatty. I feel like they should've definitely been on the list. They're like, the worst normal types. Isn't Skitty worse than Spinda? And Delcatty isn't all that much better honestly. Honestly, I know that they were introduced for contests, but who does contests? You'll perhaps try them once or twice, and then forget bout them. So really it's not all that useful, even if it has a big tm move pool as a normal type.

[@shepskydad]

Tbh you can argue who the worst one is. Skitty and Delcatty definitely suck, and having to wait until Meteor Falls to evolve it is annoying. And stats wise it’s barely better, if not on par with Spinda. Definitely a bad mon.

[@vgamedude12]

Its just funny how little this matters since the game is so easy lmao

[@SauceDarzell]

I'm surprised Snorunt/Glalie didn't make the cut. Mediocre at best, bad typing, rare in an obscure dungeon (that's not required), as well as being unattainable if ur internal battery dies at high tide.

[@AmberLB93]

I got really lucky with Feebas because I found it in the 3rd tile I checked. I also did it on Emerald, where the Blend Master facilitates the process. The making Pokeblocks part is way easier in Emerald.

[@drgamenstein3032]

Okay, I'll drop a like, but only because I actually sound like that. Also the video is good. Been watching a lot of these types of videos while I plan out routes for challenge runs, and they're really helpful, but I have to say, I like Spinda more than Kecleon and Castform. I'm planning a normal type challenge run, and Spinda is on my planned team over those two for it's utility. The issue with Kecleon that made me drop it over Spinda is it's ability, since Color Change is not something the player can control, so it's STAB moves and resistances are entirely dependant on the opponent hitting it.

[@capitanspoiler7393]

if i recall correctly i brought my feebas to the pokemone league with an exp share until it was level 70 before a friend of mine told me about the beauty thing (since there was no bulbapedia back then)

[@Madotshadow]

how do you go about estimating what to compare nosepass' stats to?

[@Jlaps941]

14:27 this definitely wasn’t me playing Sword the first time wondering when Farfetch’d would evolve into Sirfetch’d, not knowing it needs 3 crits in one battle to evolve 🥲

[@brickerboom]

Spinda with a beer is what I always wanted in life and didn't even know it

[@SuperRandomNation]

How could you not mention Delcatty? Skitty is super rare on only one route in the game. You can't evolve it till you get to Meteor Falls. And even when evolved it has terrible stats akin to a non-evolved pokemon and cant really do much offensively or defensively alongside being a bland normal type

[@wombat4191]

I really hope the dog has indeed gotten 52 thousand treats.

[@colincraigo5793]

Somewhat recently I fished for a Feebas in Emerald. I knew it was only 6 tiles but I didn’t realize it was only a 50% encounter rate on those 6 tiles so I fished and encountered one pokemon per tile and then moved on to the next. I got down to the last 4 tiles doing this and then I got found it. Glad I did because I was starting to panic even though I made sure to fish on every tile. It saved me from so much confusion.

[@TheSandwhichman108]

What’s one pokemon you guys like that use to suck in gen 1 to 3 but once gen 4 came around and onwards it got better? For me it’s crawdaunt. The physical special split of gen 4 was a god send for this thing.

[@shepskydad]

Crawdaunt is a really good pick. As a big HGSS fan I always loved Totodile as a starter because it finally hit like a truck with Water moves.

[@TheSandwhichman108]

@@shepskydad Not to mention in gen six it got sheer force as a hidden ability. Waterfalls turned into tsunamis, Crunches turned into devour, Ice punches became welcome to Alaska, Add dragon dance and you have a great UU physical attacker.

[@shepskydad]

"Ice punches became welcome to Alaska" lmao@@TheSandwhichman108

[@DongBags9319]

I restarted my Ruby profile recently and the patch of grass before Wally catches a Ralts, I caught 2 back to back. And that was BEFORE Wally got his.

[@pchurch692]

Great video! Thanks for the content!

[@calicogaming6063]

So Sneasel did have one thing going for it in gen 2 Beat up wasn't coded properly and used the user's attack stat not special attack.

[@scraps7624]

I was extremely lucky on my feebas hunt. I tried different tiles at random while watching youtube and I found one after 15 minutes, if I hadn't found it I think I would've given up after a day or so Now that I found it I want to RNG manip a shiny feebas :p

[@BradentesGameRoom]

Awesome video! Lots of research went into each pic. Very informative

[@jakeplaysyt8000]

Volbeat is cracked for casual playthroughs and I refuse to believe otherwise. He has crazy physical coverage so get a Jolly or Adamant nature on him and go wild. I used the following set: SignalBeam/ShadowBall/BrickBreak/DoubleEdge Holding Silk Scarf or Shell Bell (depending on if you want more power or less recoil from DE). I switched it for a Choice Band after gaining access to the Battle Frontier. Volbeat may not be the strongest, but he was my go-to for type coverage.

[@pokemonviolet5418]

I love using Chimecho in Diamond, and Feebas added so much spice to my Brilliant Diamond playthrough. I also used a Luvdisc once but quickly had to box in.. in Kalos, the easiest possible region

[@mettatonsagent7541]

I actually caught & evolved a feebas in emerald. It took 3 days, and because the game’s battery was dried up, I had a limited number of berries to work with so it could evolve.

[@walpurgisnight7]

My greatest achievement in life is catching a Feebas by accident in elementary school. I only decided to use all of my Lunatone's chesto berries (Moon needed them for my "amazing" rest set) to make blue blocks when I saw Milotic on Wallace's team. My college degree will never live up to this.

[@hucklebucklin]

I got Pokérus off a weirdly strong Luvdisc (it kept criting and my team for random fishing was underlevelled). I have no idea what i was even fishing for (maybe it was heart scales?) but when i got pokerus i was like wooooooooah!!!! I never caught Feebas but my friend's cousin traded me one so shout out to him!! I did know how to evolve him though i was using the Internet to work things out since Gen I. This does bring back memories of searching for all these obscure but terrible pokemon

[@gagegarlitz1962]

I know it's not a normal playthrough, but Volbeat and Illumise are actually both pretty good nuzlocke encounters, at least for the mid game.

[@orlando108]

Plusle slander I can accept, but I draw the line at Minun. I know he bad, but he’s my lil buddy. Almost a year to find a shiny for my dream team, and I regret nothing.

[@Superluigi881]

Volbeat does have Tail glow into Baton pass going for it but even that wasn't the most reliable until it got Prankster two generations later.

[@joze838]

I do not remember if I did know about Milotics evolution method but I probally did. I had one pretty early on and I actually got Brabas just randomly. I did know until now, that it was so rare and I played gen3 for about 500 hours.

[@joze838]

Note: As a child I read everything in the game, that anyone would say to me, so if someone told you about Milotic. I probally did know.

[@mlpfanboy1701]

14:07 i will still take that any day of the week then the prism scale. As far as I’m concerned prism scales are useless. At least i can do the contest conditions by myself.

[@DZ-DizzyDumm]

I dont know if it changed in ORAS, but i found way too many Volbeats and Sirskits in my Omega Ruby playthroughs

[@erik19borgnia]

To be fair, the ONLY playthrough I spent time to get Feebas was one that I totally knew what I was doing. It was also an Emerald cartridge without battery, so the supply of berries was limited and I had to plan everything to be able to evolve it. It was a bit stressful, to be honest. The evolution part was worst than catching it, even when it took me like 30-40 minutes of fishing.

[@Xpwnxage]

How did I miss this 12 days ago