Sherlock (Elementary) vs Sherlock (BBC)

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AndrewSp

AndrewSp

Жыл бұрын

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@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
Imo Sherlock from Elementary is better and someone had to say it.
@hectorbarbossa4403
@hectorbarbossa4403 Жыл бұрын
Nope
@brickomglol7525
@brickomglol7525 Жыл бұрын
i agree
@Toasterrrrrr
@Toasterrrrrr 11 ай бұрын
100%
@ivancortes1229
@ivancortes1229 11 ай бұрын
Nope
@TheCleverIdiot-vp3yn
@TheCleverIdiot-vp3yn 10 ай бұрын
Nope
@sajidulislamskilled
@sajidulislamskilled Жыл бұрын
nah, totally disagree, BBC Sherlock is far more suspenseful and top notched.
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
It is more suspenseful but that doesn't make it a better show.
@sajidulislamskilled
@sajidulislamskilled Жыл бұрын
@@andrewsp1230 IMAO, then what does make a show better? if you go with acting they got all great actors. better suspense, better stories and what not? Besides, originally Sherlock works alone, and BBC Sherlock illustrates exactly and closed to that and the book.
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
@@sajidulislamskilled for me a better show it's if it has character development, story, depth, good dialogues and Elementary has them all plus much better and realistic cases. I don't think you actually watched Elementary or at least not the whole show if you think this thing are better in BBC.
@sajidulislamskilled
@sajidulislamskilled Жыл бұрын
@@andrewsp1230 you think? it's your thought that I didn't watch, not mine. and Sherlock itself is a fictional character and yet you are searching for realistic cases, wow. and about character development, in this point Sherlock don't need a character development like others, its not brand new bro. And finally, I totally disagree with you, now, if you think elementary is better it's just your opinion, not anybody else's. also I didn't ask you to change your vote. I just disagree cause I don't think elementary is as good as sherlockbbc.
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
@@sajidulislamskilled yes, i want to see realistic cases and deductions not how Sherlock magically deduces who the criminal is. I want development and depth (which are present in the books too) because that's what makes a show good, otherwise it's the same character, making the same things, saying kind of the same things (for example BBC Sherlock saying that "he has no friends" and "he's a sociopath" over and over again) and that makes a show boring and dialogues don't really have any meaning. That's my opinion and you can have yours. That's why i made this video, i wanted to show my opinion on this two portrayals of the character. If i were to make this video how 90% of the Sherlock fans view this two characters (a lot of them didn't even see the first two seasons of Elementary tho) i would've given BBC Sherlock all categories which is wrong. In my opinion, the only things better in BBC Sherlock are cinematography and effects. I don't know if you've watched the whole show but if you didn't i suggest you watch it before debating.
@Tom-yeah
@Tom-yeah Жыл бұрын
I prefer BBC Sherlock but I'm yet to watch Elementary. All in all Sherlock in general is just cool.
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, i agree. Sherlock is my favorite fictional character. I know almost every portrayal of the character (this includes the anime, video games, books, movies and tv shows) and i can say Sherlock from Elementary is probably my second favorite. All i can say is that Elementary is worth watching especially if you are a Sherlock fan.
@godcomplex1833
@godcomplex1833 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewsp1230 bro,then who is ur first favorite sherlock portrayal?
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
@@godcomplex1833 Jeremy Brett's Sherlock is the closest to the books from what I've seen so i like his portrayal very much but if i think about it i would probably choose Sherlock from Elementary as my favorite. I know i said he was my second favorite but now that you asked me i thought about it more and i like him as a character better than any other Sherlock.
@awakeneddio6012
@awakeneddio6012 Жыл бұрын
Composite Sherlock Holmes would play everyone. Change my mind!
@user-rf1dt8wo4f
@user-rf1dt8wo4f 10 ай бұрын
​@@andrewsp1230 bro, can you tell me about every Sherlock Holmes adaptation movies/series names, please? I only watched Sherlock Holmes of RDJ, Benedict and Henry Cavil. Can you tell me others you have seen please?
@rival_edits6497
@rival_edits6497 Жыл бұрын
Well dont fight guys everyone has its own opinion someone likes from the Novel some BBC and some Elementary but dont forget these all shows,anime portrait a legendary character in their own ways but at the end they are portraying a legendary Character from novels i have so much memories with the Novel like The Hound of the baskevillers and movie of RDJ portraying sherlock i always feel nostalagic reading them EDIT: I didnt thought i will get a heart thank you.
@fix5072
@fix5072 Жыл бұрын
Gonna have to disagree. BBC Sherlock isn't only intellectualy superior, the show is also much better imo. The dialogues, character, development, acting, cinematography, it's all on point in the BBC Show. Overall I'd say Sherlock from BBC is A or A+ tier Show, while Elementary Sherlock is B tier
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
I disagree. Did you see the whole show? BBC Sherlock didn't really have any character development especially compared to Sherlock from Elementary. For example, Sherlock didn't admit that John is his friend until season 3 if i remember correctly and he admitted that only because John was angry. Sherlock from Elementary not only admitted Joan is his friend pretty early but admitted that Marcus and Gregson are his friends and he cares about them and respects them. This is just an example of better character development in Elementary. The characters from Elementary aren't stupid like most characters from BBC (except Sherlock, Mycroft, Eurus and Moriarty) and they actually help in solving cases. Also, characters from Elementary have more depth and the development between them it's much better. Dialogues from Elementary are much better than those from BBC especially if they're about Sherlock's drug use. Acting it's debatable and cinematography it's indeed better in BBC. Elementary as a show it's better because of the more realistic (and imo more interesting ) cases, the story and characters that have more depth and also the dialogues. I'm sorry to say it but i think you eather are too much of a BBC Sherlock fan to see Elementary it's better or you didn't see Elementary (at least not the whole show). I say this because there is no way you've seen it and think things like characters and development are better in BBC. You may like BBC Sherlock more but you have to admit some things are far better in Elementary.
@fix5072
@fix5072 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewsp1230 to be fair, I only watched like the first 1.5 seasons, since I wasn't really enjoying the show all that much. It's true that elementary Sherlock is more open about his feelings, but that doesn't mean that he has better development. The dialogues are debatable, but I like the fast paced, humorous dialogues from BBC more than the ones from elementary. The fact that most characters in BBC are useless in solving cases doesn't make their characters bad, it just proves my point, that Sherlock, Mycroft, etc are just much, much smarter compared to anyone else in BBC than in elementary. Characters like molly, mrs Hudson, lesttade all play their roles
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
@@fix5072 it's ok to like BBC Sherlock more but you have to see the whole show to understand that some things are better in Elementary.
@fix5072
@fix5072 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewsp1230 maybe I'll watch soon :)
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
@@fix5072 yeah, i recommend you watch it. It gets better as the characters and the relationships between them develop. I've watched BBC Sherlock 3 times and Elementary 2 times and i can say i like Elementary more and it also has funny dialogues and scenes.
@Kronensegler
@Kronensegler Жыл бұрын
I love both equally tbh. But in a fight Elementary Sherlock negs, while BBC Sherlock is probaly the better detective.
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Elementary Sherlock is much better physically while BBC Sherlock is unrealistically smart so he's probably a better detective.
@TheCleverIdiot-vp3yn
@TheCleverIdiot-vp3yn 11 ай бұрын
Nah, the most violent Sherlock Holmes will have to be RDJ's (my own opinion, not meant to be offensive!!!)
@Random_Battles
@Random_Battles Жыл бұрын
I think that the biggest problem of Elementary is Conan Doyle's names. Most characters are in most another and as a book fan it's a big problem
@LukeSkywalker450
@LukeSkywalker450 Жыл бұрын
Yes Dr Watson is Male , but on elementary He is Female 😢
@Steve_Ronalds
@Steve_Ronalds Жыл бұрын
BBC is best
@Random_Battles
@Random_Battles Жыл бұрын
Soviet Sherlock VS another Sherlock
@falanfilandersin
@falanfilandersin Жыл бұрын
bbc>
@LukeSkywalker450
@LukeSkywalker450 Жыл бұрын
I think knowledge goes to BBC Sherlock
@TheChessMasterBattleofWits
@TheChessMasterBattleofWits Жыл бұрын
I sometimes wonder if these characters are from anime like Johan Liebert, Light Yagami, Lelouch Lamperouge etc were real then the world we know would be very different place.
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
I agree and the world would probably be better if some of them were real.
@Ekhein
@Ekhein Жыл бұрын
​@@andrewsp1230 We need smarter people fr.
@lensenstark9819
@lensenstark9819 Жыл бұрын
Mycroft vs Sherlock would be cool
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
Both from BBC?
@lensenstark9819
@lensenstark9819 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewsp1230 Novel would be too op
@evagm3624
@evagm3624 Жыл бұрын
Your opinion 😁
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Elementary it's just better and I'm glad you liked the video
@evagm3624
@evagm3624 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewsp1230 nah I don't like the video but it's your opinion and I couldn't care less I like the BBC Sherlock
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
@@evagm3624 oh, ok, I misunderstood you. It's ok if you have a different opinion and I don't really care if you didn't like the video but I'm curious if you watched Elementary.
@evagm3624
@evagm3624 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewsp1230 I haven't but I will probably but right now iam really into daredevil you might like it
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
@@evagm3624 yeah, I watched it. It's good
@user-xc5up9yx7s
@user-xc5up9yx7s Жыл бұрын
BBC is the best.
@AuthorTheIdiot
@AuthorTheIdiot Жыл бұрын
It is sad that so there's pretty much no one here who played Great Ace Attorney. After all, it presented the only version of Sherlock Holmes (even tho he's called Herlock Sholmes in English localisation) to rival the original one from books.
@XBeeBoy
@XBeeBoy Ай бұрын
Nahh bbc Sherlock is so much nicer to watch as a tv series
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 29 күн бұрын
Yeah, it has better cinematography and effects, that’s for sure, but imo Elementary has better cases and development. For me that’s more important, but I can’t deny BBC is much more visually enjoyable.
@jasonsilva7537
@jasonsilva7537 Жыл бұрын
There's another Sherlock? Shame on me damn
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
And it's a really good one too. It's more realistic than the BBC one, the cases are better, and the character development it's much better. I'm glad my video helped in making this amazing show a little more popular between Sherlock fans.
@TheChessMasterBattleofWits
@TheChessMasterBattleofWits Жыл бұрын
I'm curious about L Lawliet vs Sherlock Holmes. In raw intelligence I think L has a slight edge here.
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the type of intelligence.
@digitalthoughts658
@digitalthoughts658 9 ай бұрын
Elementary all day
@user-ze1sy6hl2b
@user-ze1sy6hl2b Жыл бұрын
Saying that Elementary's Sherlock is better than bbc Sherlock is like saying that Leto's Joker is better that Ledger's Joker!
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
This tells me you didn't even watch Elementary.
@user-ze1sy6hl2b
@user-ze1sy6hl2b Жыл бұрын
@@andrewsp1230 And i dont need to. As someone who has reads the books i cant even believe that thing exists. All Elementarys characters are some dudes who predent that they look and act like doyles chacacters, while they do neither.In the BBC's (on the other hand) every single of the actors arent just playing the characters, they are the characters!!! The showrunners also respect the sourse material so much that every chance they do to the story or evey character development is still based on Doyles books!!!!The complete oposite of Elementarys showrunners. They misrepresented every character while butchering them from what made them unique so they can fit their version. Best example: Sherlock and Irene. In Sherlock their reletionship is perfect well writen an portrayed. The writers are making it clear that this two cant be together, because they must stay faithfull to the books.Yet as the episode goes on you can see the chemistry between this two and how slowly they fell in love, but both of them refuse to accept it. On the other hand Elementary's writers when they genderbended Moriarty they thought it would be cool to ship him with Sherlock, but they remembered Irenes excistanse. So what did they do? The worst solution possible: they combined the characters to one. You want anther example? Holmes and Watchon. Seriusly dude, none of Elementarys scenes can overcame Sherlocks best man speech. A speech that not only showed us in deph Sherlocks true character but also who he sees Watchon as a person and who much he cares about him. And something else: ask any true Sherlock Holmes fan, which actor who portraid him is the bset Sherlock. Everybody will tell you Robert Downey Jr. or Benedict Cumberbatch (in my opinion were the best, while portraing the character in their own way) but none will tell you Jonny Lee Miller!
@hectorbarbossa4403
@hectorbarbossa4403 Жыл бұрын
Nah thats false more like BBC Sherlock = Ledger and Elementary = Phoenix both are good but BBC Sherlock>Elementary
@Mun3001s
@Mun3001s 5 ай бұрын
Elementary negdiffs Sherlock
@Hedgicorn_Kingie
@Hedgicorn_Kingie 11 күн бұрын
I like BBC Sherlock more than Elementary Sherlock
@periklisgeorgakopoulos5707
@periklisgeorgakopoulos5707 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂.....everyone is entitled to his own opinion but not his own facts(and yes I've seen both of them)
@roostercc
@roostercc Жыл бұрын
Imo, BBC still better-
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
It's ok if you like BBC more but Elementary it's imo better and Sherlock from Elementary it's better as a character than Sherlock from BBC.
@GGNH1234
@GGNH1234 7 ай бұрын
Elementary > Sherlock
@multi__mania_
@multi__mania_ Жыл бұрын
Better show ? Sherlock (BBC) Imdb - 9.1 Elementary Imdb - 7.9
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
Imo Elementary is much better than BBC Sherlock and I say this as someone who's seen both. Elementary has better cases, better character development, better dialogues, the characters are better written, it's more realistic (which I think it's better), etc. BBC Sherlock has a higher score only because of the cast and because it's better known than Elementary. I'm curious, did you watch Elementary?
@multi__mania_
@multi__mania_ Жыл бұрын
​@@andrewsp1230In your opinion , right .. But Benedict is 2nd best Sherlock .. Yes i agree that Elementary had better character development cuz it has more than 140 episodes and BBC had 9 episodes overall .And yes I've watched Elementary but not all the seasons , I was getting bored .
@v.ponnambalavasanvasan9651
@v.ponnambalavasanvasan9651 9 ай бұрын
What the fuck , bbc is the goat.
@imaryan5697
@imaryan5697 10 ай бұрын
Nope.. The rating of both shows itself speaks 😂.. I Have watched a few episodes of sherlock elementary It's not that good compared to bbc sherlock.. Tbh bbc Sherlock is far far more interesting and enjoyable than elementary sherlock
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 10 ай бұрын
You literally said you've watched only a few episodes, how can you compare them? I can't even debate with you why I think Elementary is better because you wouldn't even understand. I say this as someone who's actually watched them both (I've watched BBC Sherlock three times and Elementary two times) and Elementary is better. Everything from the writing, to the characters, to the cases, to the development is just better in Elementary. But then again, even if I give examples, you wouldn't understand because you probably didn't even get past season one. How can I talk about how the relationship between Sherlock and Joan, Marcus and Gregson evolved throughout the series and how much growth as a character each one of them has or how the cases were much more realistic and well thought or how the deductions are better when you've only seen a few episodes. I don't care if you don't like Elementary, but to say one is better than the other when you only know one of them is just stupid. Come back when you've watched both and can actually have arguments.
@yanyanhermosa9579
@yanyanhermosa9579 Жыл бұрын
Can you do Conan clase closed vs ayanokoji Ln there is no video of this two so you get first fr
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but i haven't seen Detective Conan.
@yanyanhermosa9579
@yanyanhermosa9579 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewsp1230 okay He's likely modern sherlock holmes
@LukeSkywalker450
@LukeSkywalker450 Жыл бұрын
I think Strategy goes to BBC >
@Liam.869
@Liam.869 Жыл бұрын
If you've watched Elementary Does It have a good ending?
@user-jq2es5qc4c
@user-jq2es5qc4c Жыл бұрын
Music?
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
Dernière Danse by Indila but it's a slowed version.
@user-jq2es5qc4c
@user-jq2es5qc4c Жыл бұрын
@@andrewsp1230 Thank you!
@astro_penguin_
@astro_penguin_ 7 ай бұрын
Sorry. BBC wins this one. Just objectively 🤷
@james_potter25
@james_potter25 9 ай бұрын
Benedict Cumberbacth is winner, don't cry
@lambert6301
@lambert6301 Жыл бұрын
For me, BBC Sherlock is far better at everything. In Elementary, the characters are boring and plain. The dialogues are very insipid. Many said that in the BBC series, many characters dont look like the original characters from the books. But in Elementary, this is much worse. With the cast and the images of the characters, they screwed up completely. Especially messed up with Sherlock. The character doesnt have charisma and charm of Benedict Cumberbatch's Sherlock. As an actor, Benedict Cumberbatch is also much better than Johnny Lee Miller. Mycroft's image was also made very repulsive. Of the entire cast, I liked only Lucy Liu. It also bothered me that almost all the cases that Sherlock solved were too complicated. It's like all the bad guys in that world are criminal geniuses)) The atmosphere is also much better in the BBC series. But this is not surprising. After all, the series was filmed by british, and in the UK, not by Americans in Los Angeles. And I don't agree that Sherlock from the BBC doesn't have development. Just look at Sherlock from the first episodes, and Sherlock from the last season, and you'll see a big difference. You said that Sherlock recognized John as his friend only in season 3. But that's a lie. Sherlock officially recognized him as his only friend in the episode "The Hound of the Baskervilles". This is season 2, episode 2. And of course the music is also better in the BBC series. It's mysterious and interesting. And it also conveys the atmosphere of London. But that's just my opinion
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
You probably only watched the first season or the first two seasons of Elementary so I'm not even going to debate. It's obvious you read my other comments so you probably saw that i already debated this things with someone else that only watched the first two seasons. If you didn't see the whole show please stop debating things you don't even know about.
@lambert6301
@lambert6301 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewsp1230 I know what i m talking about. I'v watched it,and I don't like it. I didn't like almost anything in Elementary I dont ask you about debate. I just wrote my opinion about series. Yes, it's more realistic than Sherlock. But the series itself is generally uninteresting. There are uninteresting and uncharismatic characters, uninteresting dialogues, uninteresting music, uninteresting cases and an uninteresting atmosphere. You didn't like Sherlock,but I didn't like Elementary
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
@@lambert6301 Ok man, that's your opinion. I watched both shows multiple times and i like both of them but i find Elementary to be better at everything. If you want my opinion you can find other comments i wrote on this video.
@lambert6301
@lambert6301 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewsp1230 I'v read them
@Marakatchello
@Marakatchello Жыл бұрын
@andrewsp, what's the song you used?
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
Derniere Danse by Indila but it's a slowed version
@fire_forever
@fire_forever Жыл бұрын
Sherlock from books >>>
@The_Mad_Titan_420
@The_Mad_Titan_420 Жыл бұрын
Tbh, I like Jeremy Brett more than both of them. It's just my opinion.
@yanyanhermosa9579
@yanyanhermosa9579 Жыл бұрын
Yep he's better sherlock elementary But BBC is much more popular I guess
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, i agree. Elementary it's a very underrated show. I personally loved it and i watched it two times already. I really hope it gets more recognition.
@unkindness166
@unkindness166 Жыл бұрын
Big L
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 Жыл бұрын
Another Sherlock BBC fanboy who didn't even watch Elementary. Why don't you watch Elementary first and than comment.
@andrewefimov866
@andrewefimov866 3 ай бұрын
Is this a joke? BBC Sherlock mid-low diff
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 3 ай бұрын
Elementary Sherlock has better feats in every category, better development, better skills, etc. I guess you’re one of the people who got brainwashed by cool editing and unrealistic deductions and now think BBC Sherlock is the best. I’m pretty sure you didn’t even finish the first season of Elementary.
@andrewefimov866
@andrewefimov866 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewsp1230 Absurd! Besides, Sherlock Elementary isn't really Sherlock! They just took a famous name for hype. Elementary is a terrible series. BBC Sherlock is better in every category. Especially, his intelligence!
@andrewsp1230
@andrewsp1230 3 ай бұрын
@@andrewefimov866 ok dude. So magic deductions are better than actual reasoning. Action movie exaggerated cases are better than real world like cases with actual interesting ideas. Repetitive dialogue is better than actual character development. Yes, you are right. Also, both Sherlocks are not really Sherlock because both shows take place in the present. Your argument is bs. If you’d at least read the books, you’d see Elementary Sherlock is closer as a character to the original Sherlock. BBC Sherlock is an exaggeration, a caricature of the original. All of original’s Sherlock little flaws are exaggerated and put into a single character (that also has no character development). For example him being antisocial (and a sociopath which he repeats so many times it’s tiring). Original Sherlock wasn’t antisocial, he actually had really good social skills. Or the fact he was so antipathetic and almost no one liked him. Original Sherlock was actually liked and his intelligence and his abilities were actually respected, which doesn’t happen in BBC. In Elementary, his abilities and introverted nature are better shown, his fight with addiction is better shown. The cases are closer to the original, the dialogues are better and his friendship (a term that isn’t in BBC’s vocabulary) with the people close to him is infinitely better. If you weren’t so narrow minded, you’d see that I’m right. The only Sherlock that is like the original is Granada Sherlock.
@calmyroberts9247
@calmyroberts9247 5 ай бұрын
I love BBc
@bottomtier3823
@bottomtier3823 Жыл бұрын
Man had to come with a mid take
@mediocrespeedman8690
@mediocrespeedman8690 Жыл бұрын
Ripoff john wick
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