Shilo actually graduated from Jackson State and walked across the stage. He will get his masters degree from the University of Colorado. He’s a man of the people.
@lighthousemaccabee81333 ай бұрын
impressive he does sound smart well read brother
@mrbsb483 ай бұрын
Very smart and multi talented
@ViralAuthority2 ай бұрын
Plays the piano. So you know that man is SMART.
@moneyonfleek19922 ай бұрын
Only a employee needs a degree 👁️ get out the matrix mentality
@SO-56792 ай бұрын
Thats not really impressive considering what he studied lol... Why do I say that? Because I did the same thing in 5 yrs at USC while playing baseball... You can sleep every class as an athlete, and still pass your classes. The teachers are usually huge fans of the schools sports
@c.4113 ай бұрын
RGIII is underrated. The media treated him poorly. It’s awesome to see him thriving in spite of it all.
@gtgargon3 ай бұрын
Like how Shannon Sharpe used to be on CBS football pregame and got fired. sometimes getting fired is the best thing to happen to you
@shawnatkinson67533 ай бұрын
Elite
@rockfresh19933 ай бұрын
Under rated by who u people over use that word , the man won awards b4 he got hurt
@PENPAL5553 ай бұрын
@@c.411 Don't forget about RG lll's PIECE OF 💩 COACH 😡🤬
@lighthousemaccabee81333 ай бұрын
@@rockfresh1993 HE got fired....lol
@cliffordsmith4283 ай бұрын
Whenever you can interview Shedeur and Shilo together; it’s gonna be golden… ALWAYS. 💯❤️🔥🔥😆
@modernlegacy55552 ай бұрын
Notice how when they asked them who is the top College football player Shilo low key gave his little bro his props. I love their relationship.
@MagzUpBr33zy3 ай бұрын
3 dope black men, representing greatness 👏🏾. I smiled watching the whole interview.
@Zay-i1l2 ай бұрын
What does race have to do with it
@CourthaGawd832 ай бұрын
Me Too!!😂
@deneenwebster88752 ай бұрын
I see two back man and RG and his wife where is the other black man .
@mynameonly579Ай бұрын
@@Zay-i1lnothing to black people, but that’s what others see first, that’s why some of us mention it👌😍
@Zay-i1lАй бұрын
@@mynameonly579 it does matter to you that’s why you always mention it
@stuzinno29133 ай бұрын
Coach Prime raised some wonderful men 💯
@utahockey3 ай бұрын
@@stuzinno2913 I agree, seem like fine young men. Not who they protray themselves to be watching on tv
@Treverruise-p4u3 ай бұрын
Yes he truly did❤
@soniadavis72953 ай бұрын
@@utahockeyYou mean how TV portrays them. Really listen to their interviews with each other. The three of them are awesome.
@cookingmyway8542 ай бұрын
Amen 🙏🏽 he really did a great job raising his kids.😊😊
@kiaralewis30Ай бұрын
Yes he did. He’s so blessed!
@yaboydeuce3 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing this interview. Shedeur and Shiloh get a lot of unwarranted hate based on who they are. They are good dudes and I hope more people get to see this side of them.
@Boogiebaby-x9j3 ай бұрын
I totally agree 👍🏽
@Brook-ct3kk3 ай бұрын
What other side did they show? Racist people will racist no matter what
@DatDude9233 ай бұрын
@@Brook-ct3kk that’s the thing you are 100% right. The other side they show is just people with numbers on their chest and on their back. Some people will only see what happens on the field and they don’t see the brain inside the helmet. Or the heart under the shoulder pads. There might be a sound bite here or there, “we are everybody’s Super Bowl”. And then they take the comments out of proportion. The truth is what Coach prime is doing over at Colorado is a big deal. And he’s not doing it the “standard” way. We don’t wanna talk about it, but college sports is big-time business and for the longest only the college benefited from it. Now that everyone can benefit from their hard work, coach Sanders is in the right place at the right time. Because he knows how to maximize the business side of it. And it just so happens that his kids have worked hard and earned what they have. This bothers a lot of people. We’ve had nepotism issues in this country for a very long time… however now it’s only a problem that LeBron has his son at the Lakers and Coach Prime has his sons playing football for him. So yeah, the hate is real and they do show other sides, even though those sides may not be real.
@TheeKorner3 ай бұрын
They get alot of hate based on who people think they are
@angelahampton57303 ай бұрын
@@TheeKornerand their race
@SadieFeinstein3 ай бұрын
Shilo is crazy 😂😂😂😂 his reaction to the baguette was priceless
@zanders44663 ай бұрын
Frfr😂😂
@planetwalker798Ай бұрын
Why? Missed that whole point!
@Shenanigansitis3 ай бұрын
People are always going to have something to say, but what I can say is Coach Prime raised some very articulate, humble, but driven going men..
@leetran2793 ай бұрын
The Sanders Boys are pure comedy! 😂
@tyjahholloway40122 ай бұрын
You seem that on the tv show 😂
@Black-sv1uh2 ай бұрын
Definitely, the keep ribbing each other 😂
@morewokethanyourich10042 ай бұрын
Sheduer petty as hell😂😂😂😂
@EBENEANDCO3 ай бұрын
Shiloh is always on Shedeur a$$, such a sibling reactions among them both! Love it 😂
@user-xi7fw6lt2d3 ай бұрын
Always 😅. He gets on Shedeur's nerves 😂😂😂 #BigBrotherEnergy
@OkImJustCommenting3 ай бұрын
RGIII is super cool fr fr. Just had to put that out there.
@phyllisloforti30152 ай бұрын
Loving RG3 and wife. So relatable. Good folks.
@zachhamilton98473 ай бұрын
I’m rooting for the Sanders family hard!! They seem like amazing people!
@carolynharvey60523 ай бұрын
Deion, you're an heck of an man and father🎩 You raised your sons WELL!! 👏👏
@gailscorner47883 ай бұрын
Thank you RG111 and your wife! We love the Sanders guys. May the Lord bless you all
@MrsErinhwillia3 ай бұрын
I truly enjoyed this conversation RGIII, Thank you for bringing to us a totally different look and perspective with Shilo (Headache Gang CEO) and Shedeur (QB 1, Greatest in CF right now). It’s always great to hear them conversate in a more personal way, they are absolutely amazing and just awesome at life. Envied and Hated by many for just being a Sanders. I’m a forever Coach Prime fan, from College to this very day. He’s Him, a straight Goat and still writing HIS-STORY!!!✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🐐🐐🐐♥️💯🔥
@XtremeSportX2473 ай бұрын
❤❤❤😂
@PainIsBetterThanHate3 ай бұрын
Lmmfao I didn’t get any of that from this video. All I got was “My dad was rich and good at football so now I’m rich and riding my daddy’s cotails as he calls plays so I can pad my stats and look better than I actually am because I have a weak arm, terrible inaccurate capabilities, slow, and cannot read a defense” “THANKS DAD!”
@XtremeSportX2473 ай бұрын
@PainIsBetterThanHate because your narrow-minded.. you only see and heard what you thought b4 the video started. It's evident you're not great at anything in life!!!
@toddwilliams3743 ай бұрын
@@PainIsBetterThanHate you were watching as a pure hater with jealousy and envy that’s why
@a.k.4463 ай бұрын
@PainIsBetterThanHate They can't help that their father gave them a model and opportunity to follow and they took the right steps to follow. Both of these young men earned their positions, and the money that comes with and you hate it. Jealousy is a sickness. Get well.
@allan.randall3 ай бұрын
The Sanders family is great for college football!!!
@SylviaRaePickens3 ай бұрын
I luv Shiloh he's hilarious 😂😂😂😂 I luv Sheduer 2, they are so smart, handsome, & mature. Coach Prime raised them well.
@DK4LIFE243 ай бұрын
These two together are hilarious!
@yvonneyates13983 ай бұрын
Shedeur you are wonderfully made by God. Never change, enjoy being you. I love your mature mentality.
@justflowpodcast3 ай бұрын
Really think about all the hate this family gets considering Deion doesn’t drink smoke party or curse. He raised his sons to be productive young men. Their confidence is offensive to most ppl confidence.
@leslieportis40483 ай бұрын
Agree!! And the fact that actually PUT IN THE WORK to achecie their level of success.
@toddwilliams3743 ай бұрын
Successful BLACK family that’s why
@KSU-ce2uc3 ай бұрын
This here is PR and an attempt to clear up previous perceptions and images. I remember watching Deion in college and until retirement. Yes, he does have a "clean" image now and that's great but the turn off with Deion for many is that he's they do trash talk and they do and have projected arrogance. Not as much this season, but it's all documented. People are not hating on "COACH PRIME" as much as you think, but that title in and of itself is about pride and ego. Coach Sanders has not proven anything on this level yet to be known as COACH PRIME. And nope, I'm not a Deion hater at all, but people perceive them as not having much humility.
@patricksimon89433 ай бұрын
@@KSU-ce2ucfootball culture is braggadosish. There is crazy stuff talked in the field. In the black community, trash talk is accepted, especially within sports. Me and my brother’s bragged to other people about our brothers but talked trash to each other. It’s cultural.
@leslieportis40483 ай бұрын
@KSU-ce2uc exactly...people's PERCEPTION that's not rooted in first-hand knowledge. Which means there's a lot of assumptions based on the snip-its of video that are shared. None of us have an inside look at anyone of their personal lives 24/7. The fact that you're calling it a PR stunt is proof in point. None of us walk in any of their shoes, nor do we live their lives and have their experiences.
@nicholasbess30863 ай бұрын
This podcast so underrated!!!! Don’t stop bro!!! We got yo back RGlll
@ardrd20193 ай бұрын
Thank you for the great interview with the Sanders brothers, allowing them to showcase their true selves beyond the common stereotypes of wealthy football players. These young men are intelligent, focused, and know exactly what they want in life. Their father, Deion Sanders, has done an outstanding job preparing them for the next phase of their journey. It’s refreshing to see them portrayed as they are-bright and driven individuals. This interview gave the world a chance to stop prejudging and recognize their potential and ambition. Thank you again for such a meaningful and insightful conversation.
@giovannicarter30763 ай бұрын
Sibling rivalry at the end 😂😂
@nicknichols-br8bl3 ай бұрын
RGIII is a class act. Great example of a humble athlete. Great example for others to follow.
@katrinkamack56663 ай бұрын
This is probably the best interview I've seen from Shedeur and Shilo 🥰 Great job RGIII
@kimberlymiller66723 ай бұрын
I’m so proud of Shilo and Shedeur conduct themselves and their ability to engage in the interview while being authentic to themselves. Deion Primetime Sanders, Their Mom, Grandparents, siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins, friends and etc should be extremely proud. It’s amazing to see the growth in the Sanders entire family. Love y’all 🙏🏾🫶🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@FB480223 ай бұрын
I'm so glad that this opportunity to interview Shedeur and Shilo was afforded to this young man by way of Coach Prime! I love how Coach Prime is about the business of elevating others.
@cynthiaibarrondo121029 күн бұрын
Yes Shilo, people hate on ANYTHING they Do Not have words so true blessings
@kentw.phillips57483 ай бұрын
outstanding dive into the thoughts of these two young men who are under constant scrutiny, criticism and comparison to their father's track record.
@TeeTee-20163 ай бұрын
These two are hilarious together. You can count on a good brotherly argument between them. I really hope they get drafted by the same team.
@silentrage9ix3 ай бұрын
RG III, thank you for capturing this candid conversation between these two legendary brothers... your conversational interview style is very engaging!
@lawandaepps48213 ай бұрын
Great interview! Your wife is lovely and I absolutely adore The Sanders brothers 🥰🥰
@jaysenreidny693 ай бұрын
Excellent podcast and interviews. “Perfect timing!” RGIII I see why sports shows wasn’t fond of you. Intelligent, very intuitive and doesn’t lack integrity. Bravo. Keep up the great work. “Create ur own network” that shines the light on likeminded people such as urself. “Our people need to see and hear them.” Peace.
@charlesdarby60553 ай бұрын
Dude….The Last 6-7 Minutes of this podcast WAS GOLDEN! You guys dropped so many GEMS IN THIS LITTLE BUT OF TIME. IT WAS PHENOMENAL. Talking about STUDENTS of the GAME. You guys put on a CLINIC.
@tracinaadkinson48553 ай бұрын
Love the Sanders boys (men) together, Shilo and Shedeur are crazy. Great job RGIII!
@MingTyson3 ай бұрын
Awesome and fun conversation! 😂 Internet Aunties love Shilo and Shedeur!!!!!! 🏈💙
@Anti-democratChick3 ай бұрын
They are great men!
@TeeTee-20163 ай бұрын
Yes we do and we are proud to be Aunties. Two awesome young men and I hope nothing but the best that life has to offer for them.❤❤❤❤
@toyalasha12253 ай бұрын
Omg Sheduer smile is contagious ❤
@mstlovemusic8215Ай бұрын
It is
@qr53543 ай бұрын
So true, RGIII is a great guy. He stands up instead of going along with the crap in the media. I have much respect for him. I also love watching him and his wife as a team here.
@stuzinno29133 ай бұрын
Loving this podcast… Praying for blessings and abundance for RG3…. and he got wifee right there in his corner…
@craigjohnson55903 ай бұрын
My older brother and I are 18m apart, and this podcast brought back some great memories. I remember that he quit school as a jr, and went to work a job. I talked him into coming back to school, and we were seniors together playing football and basketball together. It was awesome! Because we'd been playing together since pee-wee we knew each other's every move, tendencies and so forth. We killed as db/fs, as well as point and shooting guard in round ball. Watching the Sanders brothers banter and poke each other in obvious love was priceless. Thank you Mr. & Mrs. III for an excellent interview and insight on just regular dudes excelling at the game of life. Coach has done an amazing job at fatherhood. May Yehovah Yahweh Sovereign bless and keep you all😊
@gottimetodayyy3 ай бұрын
Shilo saying he’ll tell the driver they stank took me out😂🤣🤣
@shemiekarenee01173 ай бұрын
😂
@nayaj42853 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@TeeTee-20163 ай бұрын
I can just imagine him doing that. Shedeur said he doesn’t ride with him and I can see why. Coach Prime said that Shilo is just Shilo, lol.
@daymonlaroach63943 ай бұрын
This is the best interview i've seen from both of these guys... Shouts out to 😂THIS
@user-uf5ui7dw3u3 ай бұрын
Love the back and forth at the end getting to hear football players talk football is fun
@reginab9983 ай бұрын
2 gifted young men. Love me some Shilo and Shedeur. Well coached and excellent training ❤they have a really bright future and I’m here for it❤
@grassisgreener1233 ай бұрын
Thank you for not saying two gifted "BLACK" men... I'm white and can't stand seeing the hate these dudes get...like could they be any more humble? Talkin bout well pick you up in our rolls royce and teslas if you on the team but not making NIL money. Fkin with both these catss
@MercyMe33 ай бұрын
Thanks, RGIII for sitting down with Shilo n Shedeur. These two are hilarious. I just subscribed to your channel b/c I can see you are such a sincere human being. Appreciate people like you in this world.💜💜💜
@antoinemoore88983 ай бұрын
Lol! RGIII Just sat back and allowed yall to witness the knowledge that these young bulls have. Explaining reads, coverages, checks, and how to adjust is huge. And for those who think that oh, its not a big deal....Well it actually is as Scouts and Teams are always watching. Colorado is truly proving that they are teaching their players. Awesome! I see ya RGIII, nice assist!
@meyersrm35863 ай бұрын
Coach Prime raised his sons the right way. Shedeur and Shiloh are highly intelligent and so humble. I love to see how these brothers support each other. They are going to make great football players in NFL. This was a great interview.
@califoreign2 ай бұрын
These 2 sander’s boys are pure comedy!! Now I can honestly see why people around me and my brothers are always laughing at the way we go back and forth with each other! We’re just like this! 😂
@jamesmartin7513 ай бұрын
RGIII. Love your show. Keep on Cooking my brother.
@victoriamcgowan53093 ай бұрын
Those two are always so funny together 😂
@madamvondoom3 ай бұрын
Love the Sanders brothers and Coach Prime!
@kihannawoods3 ай бұрын
More & More love AND RESPECT FOR THESES 2 (shi & shed), but also for RGlll and his wife..
@alwalkerii84573 ай бұрын
Great interview Shilo and Shedeur keep ballin' and being great brothers!!!
@tamarajohnson83283 ай бұрын
This was good. I love both brothers. They’re hilarious, I’m confident their relationship will improve as they mature. Both are extremely talented in their own right so there doesn’t need to be competition or friction between the two. It’s fruitless. All of Primes kids posses a level of excellence and creativity. They’re all dope, every single one. That’s a blessing and it’s rare. Continued prayers that Big Shilo aka Headache Gang CEO heal up and return before the season ends. Proud of him for going so hard. I’m proud of Shedeur for effectively leading his team and playing with excellence. Their parents truly did a fantastic job. They have beautiful hearts, they care about people, they care about their family, they care about their team. They’re too good to engage in all forms of nonsense. Period, on any level. Haters look for division to create war and sow seeds of discord so we gotta tighten up. In other news: Nice podcast, LETS GO BUFFS!!! 🦬
@FatimaAmersonАй бұрын
Shedeur is loved and accepted by the family because of his loving spirit. Shilo is loved too but his spirit seems to be an agitator. I think he's jealous of Shedeur because he's now the big Lil Brotha and he can't stand his fame. Bucky is always supportive of both brothers but Shilo always adds Shedeur to almost every conversation.🤷🏾♀️ IMO the rivalry is one sided.
@JBalla203 ай бұрын
This was definitely a good episode. I always support Shilo & Shadeur
@Ms__Respect_love3 ай бұрын
The last 5 mins had me rolling 🤣 😂😂
@stuzinno29133 ай бұрын
Gotta love these dudes😂
@LindaBrooks-bn6ny3 ай бұрын
GREAT INTERVIEW!! I LOVE IT!! GREAT GUYS PRIME DID A GREAT JOB AS A FATHER!!❤❤💯💯♥️🙏🙏🔥🔥♥️♥️🏈🏈🏈🦬🦬
@Redd-vs-Royce2 ай бұрын
Aye I got mad respect for yall and Coach Prime❗️and I pray my son wants to play for him once he gets good enough cause I know he’ll get good enough cause ima be there for him every step of the way 💯💪🏽
@key293 ай бұрын
These two are adorable! Go Sanders men!
@PENPAL5553 ай бұрын
Loved It 😍 Great Interview !!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@Raztahim3 ай бұрын
Shedeur and the NIL answer...uffff!!! Listen to young Boyz out there
@fifirocco3 ай бұрын
Blessed to be a Blessing. Make no mistake these young men are a Blessing!
@henofit3 ай бұрын
"bought him the cybertruck too" - Shedeur with the save... IYKYK
@troystation25263 ай бұрын
I didn’t even peep that 😂😂
@TeeTee-20163 ай бұрын
They are so very protective of each other and little sister too. I love the close bond they have.
@CharlieXFBA3 ай бұрын
2 clutch on and off the field lol
@AmoreStori3 ай бұрын
YEP!!!! lol! I love it!!!
@salliedavis04203 ай бұрын
The bond is so Great!!
@msmith9853 ай бұрын
This was a great interview. Shilo and Shedeur are comical.
@nichellepowell61823 ай бұрын
We all wish to have a Father like Deion. IF you don't like Deion unfollow him and find the team you agree with and follow them.
@michaelcooke89893 ай бұрын
Exellent comment.
@dawnmclees3 ай бұрын
RG3 you got totally screwed over by ESPN but this is your true calling the future is yours.
@airjordan78843 ай бұрын
RG3, sky's the limit🙏
@sherilouis57873 ай бұрын
Great interview…I love that Brotherly Love💯♥️🔥
@nancygarrett-bn7pi3 ай бұрын
I just love this. I'm old. And loved watching RG3 way back when!!! This is positive and warm. Thanks.
@Blkb-tt5cs3 ай бұрын
Shedeur stay making that prime voice 😂
@BornWarrior19823 ай бұрын
How do ppl hate the Sanders it’s insane to me. It’s obviously because they’re black and flashy. I love their dad since I was a kid and I have love for them too. I can’t wait until Shedeur and Hunter make the NFL. I will fully support them. Shedeur “Tom Brady” Sanders.
@Awareness732 ай бұрын
It's not hatred; it's envy and jealously. The Sanders success triggers self esteem issues in folks who were told they were and should be better than people based on the color of their skins.
@alonzomable90983 ай бұрын
The Sanders’ bros gonna take over the NFL by storm. Let’s gooooo
@takemeasIam5203 ай бұрын
Shedeur making sure no one is coming for his brother's pockets by saying he bought him his beast 😂 😂, love to see it.
@seahorn063 ай бұрын
Right! Smart comeback
@kingsamson27493 ай бұрын
You have eyes and can see 👍
@ontheclock258media92 ай бұрын
Facts. Noticed that
@kfi6513 ай бұрын
This was hilarious I have a 10 and 13 yr old and they are the exact same way with each other. Keep grinding RGIII greater days are ahead
@drdeborahenglish85423 ай бұрын
Got to love these guys and I love the love they have for each other. They were raised right. I am a 69 y/o blk female. I’ve never been a big football fan but watching these young men grow and following them up from little boys got me more interested in college football. Wishing the best to you and God bless🙏🏽🙏🏽
@sabrinawilson92543 ай бұрын
😂😂 such a great interview Shilo is a menace I swear ! I don’t know why people hate on this family so much
@halbertdockinsjr.65423 ай бұрын
One of the best interviews ever!
@tammygreen89623 ай бұрын
These YOUNG GUNS are so Ready. Just the maturity and focus speaks volumes. Coach/Dad Prime, You know you did GOOD👍
@iminra63 ай бұрын
Big fan RG3, great things for you and yours bro!!✊🏿👍🏿💯
@Treverruise-p4u3 ай бұрын
Absolutely great conversation. Enjoy listening to these young men.
@ChelseaWaddell-l7i3 ай бұрын
I do not understand why RGIII was let go. God has different plans for him. He is intelligent, funny, articulate, a good mediator between the brothers lol! Now the Sanders -you two are funny
@deloresmatt86432 ай бұрын
RGiII’s interview skills are impressive!
@wackdog2133 ай бұрын
RG3 doing his thing! It's nice to see these two wonderful young men speak on a platform other than the baleful MSM.
@wilbursmith86153 ай бұрын
I thank God for allowing Me to witness such an undertaking of a Minority Family coming together, working together to become successful. Utilizing a Partnership & Platform that wasn’t designed for Us, but capitalized by Us to succeed. I’m really impressed what Coach Sanders has done for his children, his team and the University.
@brachelliejoshua11952 ай бұрын
Didn't know RgIII had a podcast but I enjoyed the interview with Shilo/Shedeur. ❤❤❤❤
@32dashit3 ай бұрын
Gr8 interview!!! Salute n respect to da Sanders family ✌🏿❤️🙏🏿🏈
@slimade3 ай бұрын
ESPN fired a gem ....I hope he gets back on TV soon.
@utahockey3 ай бұрын
"going out there 100% each time you step on the field" I know rg3 felt that lmfaooo
@Stardust4143 ай бұрын
This was so good I didn’t want it to end, although the actual ending was hilarious 😂 Not gonna ruin it for anyone. The entire pod is worth a listen 👍🏼 Great job everyone 💯
@mildredgay78613 ай бұрын
RGIII love your show!!!
@Hotoffthepress19333 ай бұрын
This is so good to 😊👍🏿. When Robert was in DC I was a huge fan of his. I was at the stadium for the playoff game against Seattle, even though they came up short I did get a chance to see the brother play. I am happy you are doing well and wish you and your family much prosperity.👍🏿👋🏾
@OuttaPocketRG33 ай бұрын
🫱🏼🫲🏽
@yvonneyates13983 ай бұрын
If you put in the work, it will pay off! That is life.
@bermuda39443 ай бұрын
Funny as hell! Awesome interview.
@gtgargon3 ай бұрын
this was a breath of fresh air
@alvarofrancisco3173 ай бұрын
Great questions asked! Rooting for you RG III
@debraabuchanan59333 ай бұрын
So happy to hear Shedeur voice greater respect for his father’s athletic success.
@MsRonimo22 күн бұрын
Great interview. And I do love my nephew's.... I'm one of their internet Aunties. Both Sander men exude excellence. ❤
@GoatLuka-j9n3 ай бұрын
Always love to hear your perspective RG3!
@MagzUpBr33zy3 ай бұрын
I love watching how these 2 really ride for each other, as brothers. Its so clear, how close they are