Shimano Stradic SW vs Saragosa SW unbox review test 2021

[@travesb9690]

Stradic SW 5000 and up is simply a rebadged Saragosa SW with small changes. Stradic SW 4000 is actually based on Stradic FL, it uses a worm gear and has tight line management. Stradic SW 5000 is internally identical to Saragosa SW 5000. SAME WITH 6000 and bigger sizes. The only difference is that saragosa has different spool design with stronger drag system and a drag clicker is sealed inside the spool. The Stradic SW 5000 and up has identical body to Saragosa, but it has simplified spool support, less powerful drag, and regular drag clicker. I actually tried fitting a spool from 6000 Saragosa onto a 6000 stradic and it was easily achieved by swapping few washers on the main shaft that support the spool. Stradic SW has more gear options and most sizes are available in PG, HG, and XG. But Saragosa SW has much bigger sizes available for heavy duty offshore fishing

[@CARPital]

Saragosa has no silent drive and microdrive for example, my stradic Fl has it and it's much more silent than ci4+. I love it

[@campervan-vlad]

Hi, so what reel you can recommend for onshore fishing pelagic fish 3-10kg, pair to daiwa seabass 110 hx rod. Bought 5000 vanford, it's completely destroyed after a few sessions of fishing (max 3kg from rocks). Now looking for alternative....

[@TheRolfenize]

​@@campervan-vlad when you say destroyed, do you mean loose gearing? I have a stradic fl c5000xg and it holds up fine to tuna/gt at 10kg mark. I do perform maintenance on it every couple of months when I found it getting a bit dry.

[@wadaya4844]

I use my 8k sargosa for shore jigging.😂

[@Doodsy1975]

Been a while between product reviews mate. This was a ripper and both reels performed well. Nice little sneak preview of the next Western Port video too.

[@fishingmad]

I though you would pick up on some of the sneaky footage from our WP session. Yeah its been a while between product reviews. Much of that is driven by the fact that there hasn't been many exciting products released in the fishing market yet in 2021. I watch the Shimano, Daiwa and other manufacturers road maps very closely. Most new releases have been variations of existing products and quite minor changes. Much of this may be driven by COVID impact last year and slow manufacturing. Really hoping i can cover some new and exciting products as things progress.

[@AMLuc1320]

Hi Alan I really enjoy your content mate,. I have say though I found this video a little misleading, your review is great but I think it gives the impression the 2 models are made differently, when in fact they are virtually identical. Other than the the Stradic SW 4000 which is a Stradic FL in blue, sizes 5000 - 10000 between the Stradic SW and Gosa SW-A are almost identical. I’ve copied the differences below directly from Alan Hawks website, I highly recommend giving it a read in his blog section: 1) The 20' Stradic SW reels have drag washers in a top stack arrangement only, while the equivalent 20' Saragosa SW-A reels have an extra drag washer beneath the spool in addition to the top stack. And because the drag clicker of the 5K to 14K Saragosa is an integral part of the bottom drag unit, the clicker of the Stradic is different since its spool doesn't have that bottom drag. 2) The 20' Stradic SW has a ball handle grip instead of the egg-shaped grip of the 20' Saragosa SW-A. That ball grip of the Stradic is mounted on one ball bearing and one bushing, while the egg-shaped one in the Saragosa rides on two bushings. This is why the bearing count in the Stradic is 6+1 versus only 5+1 in 5K to 14K Saragosas. 3) Some 20' Stradic SW reels have different gear ratios than their 20' Saragosa SW-A counterparts. 4) Sizes 5K/6K of the 20' Stradic SW have a removable plastic ramp that kicks the bail closed when you turn the handle, meaning these two sizes have automatic bail closure. That plastic ramp is omitted from the 5K/6K sizes of the 20' Saragosa SW-A so they have manual bail closure. Otherwise the 20' Stradic SW has the exact same build as the 20' Saragosa SW including the clutch, locomotive oscillation, bearings, rotor, frame, gearbox housing, handle stem, sealing of the body and line roller, etc. I am not talking about mere similarities, rather about the exact same parts being in both models.

[@fishingmad]

Thanks I really appreciate the honest feedback. The last we want to do is mislead people in anyways. Several of us took multiple Stradic SWs and Multiple Saragosa SWs in different sizes out on several occasions and we used them to really compare the differences. These were very experienced anglers and the main consistent things identified across the group was the Saragosa SW in all the models were slightly heavier and bigger than the Stradic SW. Also that the drag sound was significantly better on the Saragosa SW. There were some minor cosmetic changes like the handles and colours, but we do 100% agree that many of the internal components of the Stradic SW and the Saragosa SW are identical, which is the exact reason why we wanted to test them. Aiming to understand why Shimano would have 2 products with similar specs and price point, aimed at the same market sector. Again thank you for the feedback, we want to ensure the message we are sending is honest and true to the products and will take your feedback onboard. Thanks again !!

[@Telecaster-uz9pu]

Yeah I completely agree, I think you made it seem alot more like the Stradic SW was more like a Stradic than a saragosa made for inshore, don't think this is accurate. It's way more like a gosa, to the point where it's almost questionable why they brought it out in the first place. I still have one in a 6k and I love it.

[@marvenmema]

Thank you for this great comparison. Just a tiny correction: the Saragosa 6000HG has 10kg not 12kg of drag (minute 3'30).

[@fishingmad]

Great, thank you for pointing this out. ill add a note to the vid. Thanks

[@ammadi445]

Great vid... I have been using the shimano stradic 5000 fl and the sw for light off jigging no problem at all they can handle big fish too..

[@fishingmad]

Yeah the Straid FLs have been great reels. The Stradic SW should also be great for that purpose and a bit of a step up. Its heavier and more rugged than the Stradic FL but not to heavy like a Saragosa or competitor reel like a Penn Slammer etc.

[@ammadi445]

@@fishingmad exactly the sw it feels like heavy dity reel more like the saragosa and penn reel but the fl more soft and smooth it would be good for inshore saltwater

[@fishingmad]

100% exactly what we thought in our tests

[@mikeperth8027]

I bought the saragosa 20000 and chucked it on a Nomad Design heavy jigging rod. Great combo!!!

[@fishingmad]

That sounds like a great combo. I really rate the new Saragosa SWs.

[@ammadi445]

I have been waiting for the this vid... Thanks mate very informative

[@fishingmad]

Wonderful, really glad you enjoyed it and found it helpful

[@ammadi445]

@@fishingmad I have done a lot of research about the shimano stradic sw 2020 there were few most of them not in English... Your review is the best

[@fishingmad]

Thank you, that really nice of you to say. I've read some reviews on the stradic SW, but none of them actually hit the water and caught anything, so hopefully this will help others out there to make a choice if there shopping for a SW reel.

[@1FishinAddict]

Stradic sw 5k up is a spheros with gosa parts except for the drag underneath the spool. Slap a gosa spool and you get a Spherogosa

[@stevensilva1350]

Just picked up a stradic sw 10000 hg for the cape cod canal, it’s silky smooth. Just not twin power smooth. My cousins spheros SW is very smooth as my stradic

[@heathbonnici6972]

Awesome review, Just what i needed to see as I was thinking of buying one of the new Stradic SW reels.

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Heath, glad you found the video helpful. The new stradic SW reels are excellent. I've caught heaps of fish with them in only a few weeks but thought they handled quite well. Good to have a really light inshore rod that has a strong drag capacity

[@heathbonnici6972]

@@fishingmad Thats exactly what I was thinking. I have a couple of saltwater reels like the Penn Slammer but they are quite big and heavy. These might be the goods

[@fishingmad]

Yeah much lighter then the Penn Slammer reels, great for inshore stuff like snapper and gummies

[@paulzarb5207]

Great review mate, I'm leaning towards the Stradic.

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Paul, yeah I must admit the Stradic SW is a really nice reel. Great for inshore fishing which is what I do lots of.

[@stripervince1]

That saragosa drag sounds amazing

[@fishingmad]

Agreed the drag clicker is amazing on them

[@Thoeun-uj1sy]

Am new to fishing am leaning towards the Saragossa

[@jedediyahaaronyisrael7118]

I have both reels and have used them for a while. The Saragosa feels heavier, rugged, and it like the brother who wouldn’t mind getting his hands dirty. My favorite part is the drag sound. It sound like…I can’t find the words. The Stradic is no slouch. It’s smooth, light and rivals the quality of the Saragosa but I will liken it to the smooth looking brother who prefers to wear a 3 piece suit.

[@fishingmad]

Very well said, and must admit i very much feel the same way about both he reels after using both now for some time

[@jedediyahaaronyisrael7118]

@@fishingmad Right.

[@darrenbutler1765]

Exact same reel bar a handle bearing and a slightly different drag stack. 95% of parts are interchangeable. The fact Shimano Australia sells them both yet we can't get a 5000 or 6000 size PG is rediculous. They make them and sell them in the rest of Asia Pacific.

[@surfninjafishing8297]

​@@darrenbutler1765💯 i got the spheros, saragosa and stradic sw all in the 6k sizes. The stradic sw is pretty much a saragosa with a spheros spool.

[@zimiggle14]

Wonderful review, very informative and the real world testing was a fantastic addiction not much people do well On ya mate

[@fishingmad]

Thank you !! Yeah hoping I can do more product reviews with a big focus of on water testing.

[@aftabdandane78]

Which one is the better for offshore slow pitch jigging saragosa or stradic? ?

[@dlm_fishing]

Saragosa in my opinion

[@Kidndjwkx]

Hey Alan, which reel would you choose for offshore jigging and bait use

[@beaver528]

Purchased a Stradic 6000XG a couple of days ago and was disappointed with the shaft going thru the spool. Doesn't look as robust as similarly priced Daiwa reels, but it does have faster retrieve which is what i was after.

[@BaccillusAnthracis]

I think you missed out the spheros before the socorro.

[@fishingmad]

True, I was just mentioning the more common ones, otherwise it could have been a long list

[@ko0sa221]

I just bought the Stradic 5000 just need to know what to pair it with ???

[@konne16]

I bought the 8000 stratic it's a beast, but thinking to get a 5000 Saragossa to throw lures and shore jigging??? I was holding it and the bit of weight to it feels great

[@fishingmad]

Yeah I agree 100% im also very keen to get a Saragosa 5000 or 6000 which would be great for inshore fishing and throwing plastics. The Stradic SW 5000 is also great for throwing big 4, 5 inch and 7 inch plastics

[@sneakypeekygaming]

What's the difference between the HG and XG? I have the HG. Which is the higher end between those two? Or any significant differences? Great review!

[@travesb9690]

Shimano gearing: 6000PG - Power Gear (lowest speed) 6000HG - High Gear (midium speed) 6000XG - Extra High gear (highest speed) On smaller reels instead of PG they have no letters at all. For example: stradic C3000 is lowest gear, C3000HG is high gear, C3000XG is extra high gear.

[@joshzfishing]

Hey mate will a stradic 6000 with a Daiwa TD black slugger be a good combo for some Sydney harbor kingfish and probably salmon and bonito?

[@V1nhL]

That was a reely good video, on ya mate!

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Vinh. I had a few followers reach out to me and ask me to cover these new reels, after my Vanford vid last year. Hopefully this will be helpful for those looking for a new salt water reel.

[@detonator7505]

For Pike i have Stradic FL 4000 and for a Catfish i have Twin power 6000 PG 2021 ,best reels in my opinion 👍🔥

[@moma1501]

I had Twin Power 6000pg, 2021 and it's the most disapointed reel ever! My twin Power 2019 4000pg has more power then 6000pg, how did they manage to do something like that I do get it...

[@detonator7505]

@@moma1501 i guess old is gold,quality

[@moma1501]

@@detonator7505 i bought a Stella at first (new model 6000pg) but she was making a strange sound/noisse. After that I ordered Twin 6000pg soon as the reel came out, I can't describe how disapointed I was when I got the reel. I fished like a two minutes and I sold it immediately.

[@detonator7505]

@@moma1501 i must say my reel is fine and it works fine,i don't have problems

[@joedennehy386]

Great video thanks. We use stradic fl 3000 loaded with 250 metres of 15lb braid with soft plastics. They easily handle snapper 7 to 10 kilos. You should have got the tackle store to.put your braid on for you with a line winding machine. When it looks all crinkly like that it hasnt been put on with enough pressure. I hope you dont mind me saying. From Coromandel New Zealand

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Joe, and i agree with your comments. I actually took both reels into the tackle store after the vid was made and had them properly spooled with some new multicoloured braid

[@joedennehy386]

@@fishingmad good on you i have seen self spooled reels turn.out bad when a 20 kilo kingfish comes along. It can dig in and apple core, bust off and brsid waste. Keep up the good work. It was great to see a real good demo on the water. Thanks

[@fishingmad]

Thanks !! And appreciate the good and honest feedback !! Hoping to get a few more new reels out on the water soon

[@ChristopherLawes]

Good review, the music wold have ben nice to be lower while the drag was going off to hear it, especially after you said how good it was. Music kind of killed it.

[@deathsbane0]

What do you reckon would be a good Saragosa size for rock fishing, 6000 or 8000? I'm looking to get one soon.

[@ONEWHEELAB]

I just purchased a vanford 5000 any good

[@fishingmad]

Yes the Vanford 5000 is also very good. I was going to buy one of those before hearing about the Stradic SW and waiting for it release.

[@ONEWHEELAB]

@@fishingmad ok what should I use it for what species

[@fishingmad]

Perfect for inshore fishing, would be great for snapper and gummies

[@slyarsenal]

What did you say that species of fish is @7:30 mins?

[@fishingmad]

Elephant fish or elephant shark, you can see the catches of them in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/mIXUmZeajKlmsNk cheers

[@slyarsenal]

@@fishingmad Thanks mate. IMO regardless if one does more inshore or offshore fishing, the saragosa is the superior reel with better sealing and drag clicker design. It's also cheaper than the stradic sw which means it offers more value for money. The saragosa has pedigree unlike the Stradic which received many bad reviews when the first gold jdm model came out a few yrs ago. The one-piece handle on the gosa is a massive improvement over the last 2 models. I had a seizing problem with the swivelling part in the handle and so did my mate, even though we both meticulously look after our gear. Shimano replaced both handles free of charge which is testament to their great customer service.

[@Side85Winder]

I fish snapper in port phillip bay on a shimano sienna 4000 $55 and a jarvis walker scorpion 8ft $30. I have all ways used light gear to feel the bite and i love the older style quiver tipped rods. The reel has 8.5kg of drag using 10lb shimano kairikri braid 15lb mono leader. Never been spooled on this setup that includes a 68cm snapper. We got a big eagle ray ~2m across under the boat but ~25min fight but the line touched the boat directly under less than 10m away. Not that you want to keep it any way but nice to get your line upto the swivel back so you dont have to re-tie the fg knot. You have lost me on a $300 reel for non game fish thats 3x the cost of my entire setup that feels super nice.

[@danielwutfisho]

Of course a sienna can do the job but it is unlikely to last as long as something mid end like the stradic. For most serious anglers, spending money on quality gear just satisfies their consumerism 😅

[@Side85Winder]

@danielwut for the amount of sienna's you can buy for the price of those more expensive reels I don't think there worth it. I have some expensive reels for bigger game fish but to catch basic whiting and snapper in ppb (port Phillip bay) anything in the budget bin will do and there not unplesant to use.

[@garychesters6994]

Your initial statement that the saragossa is a bit bigger and heavier is silly and incorect you have a 8000 gosa and 5000 stradic SW in front of you. From 5000 size to 10000 size each of the new Stradic SW and Saragosa of the same size number are the basicaly the same reels ( same frames, sealing and locomotive gear set up) with the the following main differences 1,colour 2, Stradic SW does not have drag washers at the bottom of the spool because of this it has a different clicker configuration to the Saragosa SW 3, style of handle 4, different combinations of gear ratios depending on size. 5, sizes 4000/ 5000/6000SW of the stradic SW have a automatic bail trip mechanism. All saragosa are manual bail 6 the 4000SW stradic is basically the stradic FL complete with worm gear spool oscillation and does not have the sealing of the bigger stradic SW

[@fishingmad]

The Saragosa 5000 weighs 455g the stradic 5000 weighs 430g. The Saragosa 8000 weighs 675g the Stradic 8000 weighs 650g, the Saragosa 10000 weighs 685g the Stradic 10000 weighs 660g. What we said in the video was there was minor differences to the weight and size which is accurate. I agree with your other statements about the internal components being almost identifcal. Its the exact reason we created the video to highlight that they are very similar.

[@garychesters6994]

@@fishingmad the differences in weight are down to the differences in weight of the handles and missing bottom of spool drags on the stradic SW, very minor differences, but as for Saragosa being bigger, not likely with exactly the same frame rotor and spool dependent on size number.

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Gary, really good points !!

[@garychesters6994]

@@fishingmad you are welcome I do believe that they are both excellent class leading reels. And as your final point states Heavy duty offshore Saragosa is the way to go unless you want to spend a small fortune. For lighter inshore use and indeed many offshore duties the Stradic SW is a fine reel.

[@fishingmad]

Agreed, and again thank you for pointing out some important details. Yeah they are both excellent reels. Must admit I'm a big fan of the new Saragosa, that look and drag sound is amazing.

[@raj1634]

Hey mate should I get penn slammer 4 or saragosas cant decide

[@fishingmad]

Saragosa much ligter, Slammers more heavy duty. All depends on what you prefer. Either get a slammer 3 at a bargain price, get a saragosa if you like less weight, or if you want something heavy duty that will last ages get a slammer 4

[@raj1634]

Thanks mate been watching your videos alot thank you for the info :)

[@nikosvourliotis6891]

Greetings from Athens Greece! Great video! I have a heavy spinning - light jigging rod (max 60gr). Between these two reels which one you suggest and what size?

[@XXDJOZXX]

What would you recommend for 10ft rod? Which one and size for striped bass

[@ForgivenSheep3]

What did you end up getting for that setup and targeted species ?

[@toonylcfc781]

I have no idear which reel to get I want the future prof and the best. Price is not a problem I also have no idear which size is best. I’m fishing in Norway. Catching mostly cod macrail pollock etc.

[@fishingmad]

Both reels are excellent choice, Must admit i do prefer the Saragosa. It looks nicer, has a better drag and a bit more robust. If price is no issue than also have a look at the twin power which is very nice

[@jaredbuttigieg]

Awesome review Alan. Great to see the two reels up close together. I was going to buy a Saragosa towards the end of last year, but I ended up getting an Okuma Cedros.

[@fishingmad]

Thanks Jared. Yeah I was always curious on the direction change from shimano in this space and how the stradic SW fits into a already developed reel line up. That being said I like both the reel which both have a purpose. Curious how do you find the Okuma Cedros? Okuma reels were so widely used and endorsed a few years ago, dont see quite as many of them any more.

[@jaredbuttigieg]

I find the Cedros to be a pretty good reel actually. I use it on my surf rod to chase salmon down in Lorne.

[@Doodsy1975]

@@jaredbuttigieg I bought a Cedros from Thailand when I was over there in 2019. Flash looking reel. Haven't really tested it yet. Had it with me and used it in Western Port last week, but my old Okuma Azores got the trophy fish that day.

[@jaredbuttigieg]

@@Doodsy1975 yea it’s a pretty good reel in my opinion

[@fishingmad]

Thats great !! I used to have a few Okuma reels and really rated them.

[@jamosdamokos]

I've noticed in a few comments you find the gosa more appealing to the eye where I find the stradic a better colour scheme and with the ball knob much better, I guess we all have personal preference. Btw I believe these reels more or less the same apart from the few differences already pointed out in comments below. Nice vid tho, any chance doing a review on the new saltist?

[@fishingmad]

Great points you have made and its also really great to hear someone advocating for the Stradic SW. I very much like the Stradic SW agree that the handle is far superior over the Saragosa. I also agree the specs on the Stradic SW are probably better value for money. The ability to use it for bait and plastics and the exceptional drag capacity make it an excellent choice. I tend to like the colours and drag system on the Saragosa better which is what i have commented several times. Really appreciate your comment, im waiting on a few new reels to come in soon so hoping to get hands on a few good reels to cover some more reviews. Cheers

[@kathrynjames3317]

What size Stradic and what size Revolution? I want that setup

[@fishingmad]

It was a Stradic SW 5000 the 6000 is also very similar and worth considering. The Revolution I think was the 774 snapper edition

[@reyjester383]

Worked great on the Walleye fishing trip

[@kucozzhunterz8476]

good comparison & explanation mate..i think saragosa is right for heavier task..

[@fishingmad]

Thanks, yeah the Saragosa are wonderful reels I cant rate them highly enough for the price they sell for.

[@kucozzhunterz8476]

@@fishingmad yeah i mean i got stradic sw5000xg for fast jigging & it's very smooth for me.the lightweight also..for now I'm looking for the reel for night fishing,u know more than 10kgs drag.. because night fishing is crazy, i used the reel below 10kgs before & the reel can't lift the fish up & broken..so is it saragosa can do that job? what your opinion?

[@fishingmad]

Yeah something more heavy duty for night fishing the Saragosa might be a great choice. The Saragisa 8000 has a 16 kg drag capacity or you could consider one of these new reels too kzbin.info/www/bejne/apKsqo2tbp5sibs

[@kucozzhunterz8476]

@@fishingmad yeah penn look fine too..by the way did you do review for spinning daiwa too? love to see the explanation & comparison for that reel too..

[@Peeler86]

Is the stradic sw sealed compared to the regular stradic?

[@vishnuvijayan6147]

I am looking for latest model sargosa 6000. So which one is the best for both shore fing ? Sargosa or stradic ? Brother can you please suggest me a better one for buy

[@fishingmad]

Personally I would go the Saragosa 6000 100%. Its only 20 grams heavier, but it looks nicer and the drag sound is far superior.

[@vishnuvijayan6147]

@@fishingmad now I am @ Abu Dhabi ( UAE ) , here not available the new model sargosa according to the video. So where I can buy the latest one ?

[@vishnuvijayan6147]

Hello brother , I am waiting for your reply

[@fishingmad]

I'm honestly not 100% sure where you can source one from Abu Dhabi, Our channel isn't a shop or distributor we just do reviews of different fishing gear and brands. It may be worth messaging some local shops or Shimano directly. Plenty of Aus shops you can buy from but international postage may take some time

[@RF3seeker]

I want to send my brother in law a reel as a gift, he fishes off a small boat west side Australia, which size of these reels should I get him? There is a deal on '20 Stradic SW reels at Digitaka so I thought 6000PG?

[@jeffstryker1454]

I didn’t know what reel to get so I got all of them Stella, Twin Power, Saragosa and Stradi SW.😂

[@fishingmad]

Lucky you, I desperately want one of the new Twin Powers and Stellas. Those Stellas look amazing !!

[@stevensilva1350]

I also picked up a few of them with the exception of the Stella. I have the twin power FD (inshore 5000xg) and a TPSW 6000 I also picked up a saltist MQ in the 2500 and 6000. I also picked up a vanford 5000 because of how light it was. I picked up a stradic FK5000 with no box an smooooth. But out of all the twin power FD is on another level. But diawa got something good with the saltist MQ line. I sold off my BG an BGMQ for the saltist-s. I’m hoping this stradic SW 10000HG will be able to fish the. Cape cod canal ok. I do have a bait runner 12000D but it’s way to heavy for plugging or jigging

[@monkeybusiness1061]

Are you rich?? Damn

[@Doodsy1975]

We need to do the Stella vs Saltiga review mate. I've got a few ideas for ya too.

[@fishingmad]

agreed, would be a great idea

[@tornsaephanh5088]

What are the price differentials?Thanks

[@mikosduman5310]

anybody have an opinion, i am deciding between the stradic sw 5000 size or the vanford 5000 size reel, which one would be the better option in general, for general use?

[@fishingmad]

Vanford 5000 is a great option. Its just not as heavy duty but brilliant for a general usage reel.

[@mikey13b]

Is the stradic as long lasting and maintenance free as the saragossa?

[@fishingmad]

I haven't had the Stradic SW long enough yet to say for sure. So far its handled quite well. In the past the Stradic FLs and Stradic CI4+ were pretty good.

[@alanleealanlee]

stradic sw is rated ipx8 ?

[@Tjaysmith]

i was wondering could i get a tuna on a 5000 Stratic ?

[@fishingmad]

Maybe a small schoolie, they can peel a lot of line

[@yahmanaiman2877]

So which better for fast jigging ? Stradic sw or saragosa sw? Size 6k HG or XG?.. please reply ma comment

[@hk7508]

where can I buy the stradic sw 5000xg?

[@ronmb81]

Hey I just realised the New Saragosa does not have X Shield!

[@fishingmad]

The Saragosa SW has X-protect. IPX8 WATER RESISTANCE THROUGH LINE ROLLER ASSEMBLY and WATERPROOF CROSS CARBON DRAG ASSEMBLY

[@ronmb81]

@@fishingmad so Stradic SW has X shield and X protect and the Saragosa only has X protect.. guess that's another difference between choosing which one to buy...

[@fishingmad]

very true

[@jeremylavis9541]

Excellent video. Thank you.

[@fishingmad]

Thank you !!

[@jeffreymelkissetian4047]

I'm lost and don't know which one to buy the 10k or 14k saragosa

[@fishingmad]

very little different between the 2. The 1400 holds a bit more line the 10000 is 30 grams lighter. id say make the call based on how much line you need as the drag capacity and specs are so similar

[@jamesleadbeatter3632]

Not sure if your still deciding I get Its an old comment but I have a14k gosa and it is beautiful on big fish

[@adammalski]

The biggest difference between the Gosa 10k and 14k is the gear ratio & retrieve. 14k more suited to throwing stickbaits / lures and the 10k more of a power house

[@douglasyong6939]

Is the Saragosa a tougher reel?

[@fishingmad]

The construction is very similar between both reels. Not much difference to the internal components. The Saragosa in hand feels like a tougher and more durable reel.

[@johnrickards1908]

Hi Alan, enjoyed the review but, any chance of reviewing a couple of pensioner priced reels? My wife would chum me if I asked for one of those Shimanos for my birthday :-(

[@fishingmad]

Thanks John, 100% always happy to cover a wide range of products and budgets. Happy to look at some lower end reels which might be helpful

[@konne16]

You'll buy one of these reels, take care about them, they'll last forever

[@AndreasFragou]

Great review 👏 👌. I have one question. What rods are you guys using on the video.? Thanks in advance

[@fishingmad]

Thanks You, in the Video we were using Savage Gear 1DFR rods, were also using Shimano Terez rods. Both great options.

[@AndreasFragou]

@@fishingmad thank for sharing this with us. We are waiting for more great videos from you 😀👍👍👍

[@fishingmad]

No problems, one going live this evening so stay tuned for that

[@AndreasFragou]

@@fishingmad I Definitely will

[@mavsonline]

Hey Alan just wanted to know if the saragosa is auto bail arm or manual?

[@kuyaren7614]

15kg fish stradic sw 5000XG can handle it?

[@ihatethegestapo7649]

Easily

[@maccachung3024]

Awesome review Alan. What was the rod you had on the Stradic SW?

[@fishingmad]

Thanks !! Shimano Revolution PPB 741. Its a great light weight snapper outfit that you can use with plastics and bait. There quite cheap aswell I think about $120

[@emrahakcay5478]

which one is better for you. I don't understand because I don't speak English.😁 Thanks

[@TyeOst-i7u]

What size savage gear salt

[@fishingmad]

Pretty sure it was the 8-12kg. They have been discontinued now.

[@TyeOst-i7u]

@@fishingmad yeah I’ve got a similar 5-8kg version bought on clearance for $30.

[@benredford1627]

Great video Alan, was wondering if the Saragosa would go alright as a surf reel? Cheers

[@fishingmad]

100% this reel would be great for the surf, light weight and pretty tough. It does depends on what style you are doing ( lures/metal slugs or bait ). Its very light weight which makes it awesome for casting lures and metals in the surf. I use the 5000 size and its great for that. I also just reviewd the new Slammer 4 which can be seen here kzbin.info/www/bejne/apKsqo2tbp5sibs and that would be a great option aswell. Its a bit heavier but great waterproofing technology to stand up to surf.

[@benredford1627]

@@fishingmad Thanks for such a quick response! Really appreciate it.

[@fishingmad]

No worries !!

[@benredford1627]

@@fishingmad Sorry I had one more question, looking at the Shimano Speedmaster Surf rods. They are a 2019 model and some of the models are hard to find. The two I am looking at are 10 foot 3-6kg and 12 foot 6-10kg, I will be mainly fishing for Salmon, Tailor, Whiting and Bream with it. Any suggestions on which weight class to go with? Cheers

[@chippyjohn1]

You also have Twin Power SW and Twin power XD that claims to be a better salt water reel. Too many options, too confusing.

[@fishingmad]

Agreed, It is over confusing.

[@peternguyen9602]

question are the stradic sw 5000 and stradic 6000 the same size does anyone know?

[@travesb9690]

Identical body but 5000 has slightly smaller spool diameter. You can swap spools on 5000-6000 stradics.

[@robertabrams91]

Hi… i know the spheres sw has a japan version which does not have the hagonie gears…my question is does the Saragosa has a japan version to? If so how are the gears in that version?

[@JamesFishingAdventures]

Sara for bait fishing, stradics for lure fishing

[@fishingmad]

Thats a really good point !!!. The Stradic SW I have paired with the revolution rod is actually awesome for flicking big jerk shads, whilst the sara is way to heavy for that.

[@mikey13b]

@@fishingmad why do you say that when the weights are almost the same for the corresponding sizes?

[@jordythebassist]

I wouldn't laugh at anyone who picks the 'gosa for Port Phillip Bay, I've had to pull anchor and chase down some big fish before.

[@timtran7196]

At minute mark 3:49... Saragosa is bigger and heavier. Didn't I see 8000 Saragosa vs 5000 Stradic?

[@kamadowoah4584]

All the stradic sw are high speed they should of done a hg or pg

[@kamadowoah4584]

My bad I just seen the 8k

[@fishingmad]

All good, no worries

[@fishingwithdavid]

Stradic SW for Japanese market, Saragossa is not available in Japan. :) When the Stradic SW was first announced in Japan it was only available there, until recently Australia jump on that too. Same thing to do with the Sephia BB reels. In fact the Sephia range in stock in aus is a older model the 2018 range which is released to Australian market this year :)

[@fishingmad]

Thanks David, i hope your well!!! Yeah your 100% right. I also noticed that the new Sephia BB is the older 2018 range, which is a really strange move by Shimano when you consider how popular squid fishing is in Australia and the volume of choices from competitor brands. Strange about the Saragosa not being available in Japan as its used by many top anglers all around the world.

[@fishingwithdavid]

@@fishingmad Hope your doing well too, stay safe.

[@OPTIMUS6LTR]

Thankyou David was about to say the same thing mechanically same as Saragosa the weird part is that they are sold in Aus

[@jamosdamokos]

@@OPTIMUS6LTR difference is in the gear ratios, I suppose they could have just offered more ratios in the saragosa range but the stradics do look nice and I like the metal ball over the rubber egg. Only the 5000 are both xg, the 6000, 8000 and 10000 are different ratios.

[@kenth6140]

Jigging: stradict, kingfish : saragosa

[@hea4nothin]

Shimano is like Hypercars Daiwa is like Heavy Duty Trucks

[@matthewlee1383]

Umm NO. Daiwa are known for light, finesse and engineering excellence. Shimano's reels on the other hand are bulky, heavy and I dare say, not as technical - apart from their anti-reverse clutch system. From a weight, sealing and performance perspective, Daiwa is the clear winner.

[@hea4nothin]

@@matthewlee1383 Umm NO. You’re clearly have not seen and feel all Reels of both kinds, you’re only thinking. For me “I Know” and have all of them, not “I Think”. E.G. Overall a 6000 Shimano is smaller than a 6000 Daiwa, and so on. A LaFerrari is bigger and heavier than a Chevy Super Duty?

[@matthewlee1383]

@@hea4nothin lol. You've just contradicted yourself by saying Hypercars are bigger than Heavy Duty Trucks. My statement is based on experience and feeling both Brands - and yes from small 2500 sizes all the way up to 10,000 big bastards. Not sure what Daiwa reels you've spun, but the ones I have are all much smaller and lighter than the Shimano counterparts.

[@hea4nothin]

@@matthewlee1383 Read it again. I didn’t put a Period. I put a Question Mark. LOL, Dude, do you ever paid attention “?” My statement is based on owning all of them, clearly you don’t have all of them.

[@matthewlee1383]

@@hea4nothin I never said I have owned ALL of them, don't really need to. I know that the ones I have used are quite clear that Daiwa reels are lighter, tougher, sealed better, have higher drag outputs than the larger Shimano gear and to a degree - engineered better. I wouldn't call them heavy duty trucks though - that would be Penn or Shimano where you cast and won't even think of holding it for much longer. Not sure what logic you employ where you reverse things around and make it sound like you know more than you actually do ?

[@kalunvinka]

You use a lot of savage rods…

[@fishingmad]

Yeah, i have a lot going on with Savage Gear, also cover a lot of other brands too

[@stevensilva1350]

Get the dog

[@johnnykronos230]

Stradics and vanguards are hopeless, bought two of each and have had dramas with all four. Luckily shimanos after sale service is outstanding but doesn't change that they are producing below average reels. Spend a few more bucks and get a daiwa certate!

[@danielwutfisho]

gears are bumpy on shimanos, daiwa all the way

[@MrChucknorris1975]

1st

[@fishingmad]

Legend, well done !! Hope you enjoy the vid.

[@luisfernandovalencia]

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