Comparing the Shimano SLX M7100 chain to the Shimano XT M8100 chain. See the latest chain test and summary • Shimano 12 speed chain... #shimano #chain #12speed
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@sarcritchlow4 жыл бұрын
Haa that 50/50 chain test is awesome. Why isnt that done more often? The definitive measuring tool. Well done man!
@arfmf2 жыл бұрын
What a great test! The differences in the lineup are Deore has no chrome plating, SLX has the inner pin plated, Deore XT has the engagement side plated too and, finally, XTR has hollow pins (10g lighter 242g vs 252g) and it has a fancy coating (think a teflon pan) you have to be careful while cleaning it, if you are to harsh while cleaning and/or use too acid/alkaline degreaser the coating will be lost.
@olivierhacking3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the straightforward analysis! Getting a XT chain now :) would be interesting to see how the XTR compares.
@_S13_3 жыл бұрын
Would like to know that too.
@bluestraycat4 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison, really valuable to know this! Think I'll be speccing an XT when it's time to replace the chain
@stefanodruetta2 жыл бұрын
my current m8100 chain has been on the bike since september 2020 and it's getting close to .75% wear just now after 5000km. i'm 95kg, I ride a hardcore hardtail with an slx drivetrain with an oval chainring. I only use muc off dry lube (not a lot of wet riding around here), thoroughly dry-brush the transmission with a grungebrush after every ride and reapply lube, then wash the bike once every 2-3 rides. it's showing a little bit of rusting on the outside plates, yet it still shifts perfectly in every situation. previous m6100 chains only lasted around 8-900km (but I was also using teflon oil only, back then). I'm VERY impressed and eager to see wether the next chain would last the same. I'm tempted to test m7100 thou.
@e_mtb4 жыл бұрын
I've ridden my M7100 for 2400km now (on an e-mtb) and the measurement tool says, it's still okay. Very confused about the durability values here :D
@angeledduirbonesu19893 жыл бұрын
Same, normally I reach max stretch around 1500 km. 350 km it's a bit low. Ok, maybe because it's an e-bike and the applied stress on the chain is higher
@eXTreemator2 жыл бұрын
@@angeledduirbonesu1989 it makes no difference to chain wear, definitely not on this ebike. And 350 is very very low. And chain checkers can be wrong, elongation wear could be 2 times less
@1911Zoey2 жыл бұрын
Are you light in weight and only bike in plains?
@torquebiker995911 ай бұрын
Good idea with half hallf chain. Thanks for the work and sharing your results.
@boballard60403 ай бұрын
Great review.. I ride regular manual mountain bike and for the few extra dollars I got the M8100. Thank you for the work.. bob
@grooveseeker62693 жыл бұрын
I was also amazed at your half and half chain test. But I'm even more amazed with those 200km of lifespan of the chain. Even with an emtb and what not, cmon, pros move more watts than an emtb.
@grooveseeker62693 жыл бұрын
@@EMTBVideos Thank you so much, keep doing this kind of stuff, I really apreciate your time, work, and effort to do this kind of video
@steverichardson48088 ай бұрын
thanks for doing this review
@jitterspec2 жыл бұрын
Excellent scientific experiment and results. Cheers!
@onathanj3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! More of this please!
@EMTBVideos3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, currently working on the XT M8100 vs XTR M9100.
@DKLVE4 жыл бұрын
Accurate and simple.....your style of reviews is getting better and better 💪
@stin111113 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and Thank you, you've no idea how difficult it is to find any info on the difference between these chains. Now I need to find a shop that has them stocked :P
@EMTBVideos3 жыл бұрын
Thank you too (: Hopefully the XT vs XTR 12s video is out next week!
@surly604 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, thanks.
@johnwilliamson94534 жыл бұрын
Excellent work!
@jumpy38572 жыл бұрын
Thanck you for this test
@cedriceveleigh3 жыл бұрын
Great test! Thank you.
@creepylavalamp3 жыл бұрын
Great F'ing video!! Hoping for XT vs XTR chain test. Just subbed!!
@Arsenit2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Great Idea! Great Info!
@nathanlindsay26693 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you!
@jordanreniak25403 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@guz_manksanjaya8892 жыл бұрын
Thankz for the review i am from bali prepare buy slx m7100😇
@TheJanakev3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great video. 👍
@MartinTeerly4 жыл бұрын
I've done a lot more than 1000miles on my xt chain and it's still good
@stuartdummkoph1284 жыл бұрын
I dip my chains in a boiling paraffin wax and Teflon powder solution. This hardens in the links and only needs to be hosed between rides. I get 250kms between treatments and my SLX chains last about 1200kms
@jupiik3 жыл бұрын
I would expect several thousands with such treatment... I read article that with wax 15 thousands can be achieved, if you are willing to do wax, maybe you can try high end chain for much better results.. who knows
@MrChadLedford2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Videos!
@alifallah19543 жыл бұрын
Subscribed cus of smart test.
@shwndh Жыл бұрын
I installed a brand new SLX chain about 6 weeks ago. I checked the wear yesterday and I’m at .5 already! No e-bike and I’m not really a powerful rider. Very disappointing! I used a SRAM GX chain previously and it lasted about 7 months of heavy use before getting to .5 wear.
@Infpl Жыл бұрын
That is my experience too. SLX 7100 chains on my bike and a 10 years old bike are at 0.5 wear only after 200 -300km. I ride only in dry conditions with brandy chain oils and regularly wipe the chain. Wonder what i am doing wrong very disappointed.
@shwndh Жыл бұрын
@@Infpl They just don't make stuff to last like they used to with 10 speed. My 9 speed Ultegra chain lasted like 10 years. The times we're living in.
@agungagumy21 Жыл бұрын
Me, use slx m7100 chain n now 750km n still normally n no aus 🤘
@MalcolmTroon3 жыл бұрын
Well done
@eduruttkowski3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!! I need to replace my chain... at this time I'm using a M7100, but I would like to know if you recommend to buy a M6100, M7100 or M8100 for a 12s.?
@vintage_lenses98784 жыл бұрын
I got 8000 km out of my KMC ebike chain on my CUBE Stereo Pro !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mostly on paved roads though.......
@shanephillips80093 жыл бұрын
Genius
@mtbboy19932 жыл бұрын
I am using an oval chain ring, non boost on boost hub, the chain wear is uneven, currently 0.17 and 0.27 wear. I suspect I tight be due to the oval. I don't remember if this was the case with round chain ring, I don't know how much difference each gea remakes and and if the difference in wear has something to do with the different gears in use, and certain spots wear more due to chain being in the same spot as always but ran tru the gears. Of course when ubidtsllinh and installing the wheel you might have the one or few cogs forward or backward, I don't know how much difference this makes.
@mtbboy19932 жыл бұрын
this is great, any plans for more chain testing like this?
@EMTBVideos2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen this one? The latest chain test video kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3-wi6R3fqiEjbc
@MagpieManny3 жыл бұрын
The combined chain got me thinking: If there is equal force across the chain doesn't it mean that the weakest part of the chain (SLX) would stretch before the stronger parts stretch (XT)? So if the whole chain was SLX that the force would be more distributed around the chain and might mean lesser stretch? Not certain. Interesting anyways :D
@EMTBVideos3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. The force will be the same across the chain, regardless of how weak each chain is. The weaker chain could strech more, but that doesn't affect the load they're exposed to.
@DM-hw4cr2 жыл бұрын
Correct lube also helps. Stay away from lubes like Rock n Roll.
@EMTBVideos2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure these were lubed with RnR (: But the km ridden in this test was wrong due to a damaged measuring device. Still, the comparison between the chains is valid. Check out the final chain stretch vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3-wi6R3fqiEjbc
@MuhiTube2 жыл бұрын
I cant belive this! Only 200-300km! That would mean i have to change the chain every week! I drive my bike/chain (CN-M6100) now thousends of km and the chain is still OK! My opinion… Under hardest conditions every chain should be fine for min 2000km! If you maintain, clean, lube your chain!
@EMTBVideos2 жыл бұрын
It seems we had a damaged measuring device. We get better results in the later tests. But nowhere near 2k km. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3-wi6R3fqiEjbc We did some maintainance, but not a whole lot. The point of this test is do determine the difference between them, so we tried wearing them out as soon as possible.
@eXTreemator Жыл бұрын
@@EMTBVideos i suggest using the total elongation test to determine the wear. Use the baseline chain as paragon and you will be able to easily see overall wear.
@Cylcopath_GR4 жыл бұрын
Have you try m9100 chain?it will be an interesting comparison with m8100 one.
@gordonkcampbell40813 жыл бұрын
@@EMTBVideos how's is this test going please?
@mortenkleppan3163 жыл бұрын
Thanks for chairing. Will other chains work together with the shimano 12 speed system?
@EMTBVideos3 жыл бұрын
I haven't tested, but I've talked to people that have complained after buying 3rd party chains for their Shimano 12-speed system. I have ridden bikes with Shimano 12-speed combined with a Sunrace cassette. Shifting performance suffered noticeably, it shifted like the 11-speed Shimano without Hyperglide+. So my impression is both the cassette and chain need to be Shimano with the Hyperglide+ that is standard on their 12s systems.
@illla3 жыл бұрын
I use 10 speed KMC e10 EPT chain on my eMTB bicycle with Yamaha PW-X motor with Shimano Deore 10 speed system and this chain lasts (0.5 mm stretch) for about 800 miles (1300 km). I ride it only in extra power mode (maximum assist) with no speed limit for assist (speed box mode) in terrain with a lot of hills (Seattle) doing wheelies all the time.
@czarahlvic42903 жыл бұрын
I've been using XT M8100 for my Slx m7100 drivetrain, sadly the chain snaps from the rivet while cycling to uphill. I think I'm gonna stay for slx or deore chain.
@eXTreemator2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the load you apply and how terrible is your shifting at the moment. Shimano chains are very hard to break, unlike kmc shit that i can snap every weak, i couldn't ever break them with any power
@DM-hw4cr2 жыл бұрын
Something else is going on
@czarahlvic42902 жыл бұрын
Maybe cross chaining is happening here, I have 1x setup and if I remember right I was in 45T when the chain snap happen. I don't shift that much on uphill.
@awesomekungfupanda4 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison, but the durability disappoints me. Would love to see a comparison between sram gx and x01 cassettes. The sram gx cassette on my Trek Rail 9.8 was completely worn out after 1000km and that disappointed me. Certainly because their quite expensive. Would like to know if it's worth to upgrade to x01.
@aaddaammsskkyy4 жыл бұрын
Get cheapest nx cassete, it last longer than more expensive ones.
@awesomekungfupanda4 жыл бұрын
@@EMTBVideos I'm using a ktm chain right now, because the shimano was worn out very fast. I'm curious how long the ktm persists
@adrianTNT Жыл бұрын
Once you cut the chain, you can only connect it with the quck link ? Can someone confirm ? The 7100 said "not reusable" on it, I didn't new what it means but I connected it with it's own link and it fell off after 100-200m then it it's quick link it went well for now.
@EMTBVideos Жыл бұрын
Shimano chains usually can be ridden with either the quicklink or the regular pin. I always use the quicklink, and I've had no issues using the same link for 3 different chains.
@felixbrandau47512 жыл бұрын
For some people that’s one chain per month that’s so short … is it because of the e bike ?
@EMTBVideos2 жыл бұрын
Most people should get more than a month, the km ridden in this test was wrong due to a damaged measuring device. Still, the comparison between the chains is valid. Still, the durability isn't impressive. Check out the final chain stretch vid kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3-wi6R3fqiEjbc
@chartreuse13563 жыл бұрын
One issue with your test is you should have used new chainrings and cassettes so the wear is exactly the same or buy 2 more new chains and split them in half and use on the same bike. I'm assuming the chain that wore faster is probably the one that was on the other bike before you joined them together.
@BarrettChris903 жыл бұрын
Please measure both chains when they're brand new, for interests sake. Surely they aren't both exactly 0.00%.
@folmonty2 жыл бұрын
Toast at 200 Km yikes! That seems like a ridiculous short period. When you say "under high load" guess that's the cause for such fast wear rate. Right now everyone is riding what they can find because supply is almost non-existent Riding eMTB's is certainly more maintenance intensive!
@EMTBVideos2 жыл бұрын
We had a faulty chain measuring device, so they would have lasted longer. I talk a bit about it in the final chain test video kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3-wi6R3fqiEjbc