AQW PvP is Broken

[@Shiminuki]

What are your guy's thoughts on the current state of PvP in AQW?

[@billwangiscool]

its a big shitshow

[@JDV214]

As you've said it, _BROKEN_

[@fumofumoyay]

I think it's PvP

[@musashimiyamoto2301]

Absolute bonkers, the stuns from some classes alone already make PvP quite annoying, but add that to high damage classes such as VhL which could potentially stun lock you and KO you before you even realize it PvP has become quite boring and I only do it if I'm really bored.

[@abel_36]

haha warrior w/ nsod wrecks people's hopes and dreams

[@BonelessFolka]

Back in my day, Troll Spellsmith and Vindicator of They were the strongest PvP classes-

[@spartanryno]

Yeah I remember fighting VoTs and it was always Stun and SUN on repeat.

[@Polo_7822]

I remember mindbreaker being op in bludrutbrawl...

[@kashakun5450]

Darkblood stormking

[@RightClicked]

Back in my day, it was necromancer

[@theylhompst]

artifact hunter = vindicator of they

[@joey6417]

AE after this gets enough attention: "Oh no!" Also AE: "Anyways here's another 10k AC collection chest"

[@dimplemonie1296]

This is scarily accurate o-o

[@michaeladriansuarez3486]

It's not even funny, it's just the truth.

[@checkmatedot8126]

Aqw is the worst they should seriously delete aqw it wasted my time in useless fight I even reported them again and again in Twitter and told them to delete the boring game

[@AJLaz000]

guys if you think AQW's pvp system is useless just remember AQW has a Guild system lmfao

[@pointzero4450]

Aqw guild system is garbage too lmao it doesn't have much depth into it for example no guild war and no guild quest guilds are useless it won't even benefit you

[@NeilJan99]

also monsters have a mana bar but they dont use it lol

[@jarbv5028]

They should add guild shop and guild missions and class for those who have guild and guild war

[@lyrics2challenged]

@@NeilJan99 ... Wait a fuc- brb gonna go login rq

[@Kaitoxv.]

guilds arent useless , there are guild wars too btw but not in every guild some guild does pvp wars and stuff and you can make friends and get help and there are alot of giveaways in my guild where you can win artix points

[@JDV214]

I've never been so early for a Shiminuki video. Thanks for uploading! See you on the next one.

[@kohaku-675]

I knew current pvp was bad, but goddamn i didn't know it was this bad. This made me miss the days when Troll spellsmith was like the best for bludrut.

[@TheBrandoncyz]

*VoT would like to know your location*

[@7Roxer]

Troll spellsmith would walk into a room and 1 shot everyone. Good times...

[@deception314]

Next is DBSK

[@yootantonystark2738]

@@7Roxer thats how i got my dragonblade quickly. Won every game like it wasn't even close.

[@Chadfill8348]

Meanwhile Rogue and Horc Evader: EVAAAAAAAADE!!!

[@chainsburg]

This is insane! As for a possible solution, I've seen other MMOs have a system where if you joined a pvp map, it changes your classe from a pve version to a pvp version, one that has nerfed damage and stuns, disables powerful effects, consumables and item damage boosts. meaning that classes fundamentally change in pvp, and these versions get their own balance patches, the get their own buffs and nerfs, and it's doesn't affect the pve version of the class at all. I think applying that in AQW would make so much sense. As always thank you shimi for the amazing video

[@boempower]

It seems like a lot of work for aqw. There are near a 1000 classes give or take, to make them all balanced or change them all for pvp outside of pve is smth i dont think they can do since every class is an unique game item. What i think the fix could be is a rotational banning period of sertaint: classes ,amulets ,weapons and items so player got smth to work with and make there own balance. This has nothing to do with your responce but i wish they would intigrate guild activity together wirh the team pvp thing makes both of em more interesting

[@chainsburg]

@@boempower I was only speaking about end-game classes that are actually broken, at max, about ~20 classes. I love your idea, kinda like Overwatch's OWL, it would keep the meta always fresh and interesting, would be an amazing addition to AQWM.

[@skullmanxd281]

I see the biggest mmo nerd out there huge respect

[@bensartakamcas1n126]

I still remember when there was a time sometimes almost everyone would go to yulgar and buy the same outfit, also that the most op class would be hecking necromancer.

[@xXLunatikxXlul]

Ah, 2010.

[@NotAnAstronaut2k]

@@xXLunatikxXlul Necromancer was way after 2010 but yeah it was good times 2008-2012

[@fireflyfrv654]

tbf expecting this game's pvp to be balanced is like expecting oversoul to get new updates

[@Shiminuki]

:(

[@lyrics2challenged]

*Pain*

[@Fluskar]

Omg oversoul bruhh

[@DR3ADNOUGHT]

That hurts

[@Shagaru_Bleed]

owch

[@cloudthelemon756]

Ngl I'm just waiting for gun animations at this point.

[@aqwdblader8696]

There's an armor for that and an IoDA package out right now.

[@arzpl]

I already talked to some of the Whitehat programmers of AQW that the gun animation was impossible White hat programmers in AQW has Dark Red name in the game

[@arzpl]

i want to point out that you can have a Gun weapon Cannon weapon Laser weapon but having an animation with that kind of weapon is a dream

[@arzpl]

i guess there is no problem dreaming

[@Chadfill8348]

@@arzpl I think the reason is because theres so many guns and replacing their animations will take an extremely long time

[@kaosunokami]

Everybody gangsta till the full thief enhanced Great Thief Class with potion of evasion makes fights annoying as hell

[@Unkown-fi7pb]

I'm gonna wait for an Artifact Hunter reskin class.

[@findout-YGO]

they'll call it "Artifact Collector" or make a stronger version and call it "Evolved Artifact Hunter", like they do with Blademaster and its 400 variants...

[@mucit69]

@@findout-YGO how can i get BM original classes?

[@CarloyHernandez]

@@findout-YGO I hate the fact they made a Swordmaster class...

[@SECsanders421]

Used to play this game when the level cap was 20. Nice to see it’s alive

[@fnraven7917]

Inb4 AE uses this as an excuse to delay the Aqw rewrite even further.

[@findout-YGO]

what rewrite? It's clear the "rewrite" will be AQ mobile... I lost hope on a rewrite after AQ3D was announced

[@Spurgtjoe]

@@findout-YGO bro aq3d was announced in like 2012

[@Dan-dk8cz]

two vhls with nsods is pretty much a wild west standoff also desyncs are a scary thing to occur to the point that they will call you out for being a cheater

[@slooptrooperunlimitedofthe1772]

the Necro death win, is a easter egg aqw put when the class was released. it follows the them of raising the death cuz of necromancer so yeah pretty fun.

[@giorgospapadopoulos7033]

Thank you for addressing these exact reasons why I quit PvP many years ago as a 9+ year player. Also getting lag-stuck in Bludrut Brawl doors makes me wanna commit Necromancer's 1st ability multiple times with no heals....

[@TeaRektum]

Stop playing the game. It's a waste of time lmao

[@besooo19x]

Sir, we as AQW game community are lucky to have you among us. Have a nice day 👍🏻.

[@abel_36]

oh my gosh old AE soundtrack at the end... was it from DF or something

[@salihozdemir4017]

Please, you need to do an updated PvP classes video. 15k amulet really made differences. Please man

[@salihozdemir4017]

Also don't do it without taking awe enhancements into account. They've also changed the meta drastically

[@bryandandoy885]

why shim did not uncover the potential of 'not a mod' class in pvp? its literally a pvp god.

[@akiheroli8334]

Tips: you can counter dodge classes with blaze binder as all skills dont misses and most dodge classes dont have high def. so u can burn them with your high dot and burst skills and you can also counter classes like great thief (i'm not sure), MOM class, and artifact hunter class with DOT class.

[@AJLaz000]

NANI!!?? A VIDEO THAT ISN'T A CLASS REVIEW??? *IMPOSSIBLE*

[@xxgoku7774]

I remember playing bludrut just to farm, those enemies used to give 5000xp each

[@Khroniclas]

That was perfection.

[@xxgoku7774]

I have no idea of what it is like to farm nowadays, how much could one get?

[@shinramyun]

@@xxgoku7774 easy way I guess is on /icestormarena, farm lvl 99 ice spirits(?). 1k+ exp no boosts. hard way is that warlord icewing quest. Idk the total exp that you'll earn. but it's pretty high, as they say.

[@dirt8718]

​@@shinramyun doing the warlord ice wing quest gives 75k exp each kill (or 100k if you're a member) without boosts. With a party this is probably the fastest method to leveling up

[@shinramyun]

@@dirt8718 thanks for clarifying

[@amonev2186]

I remember PvP teams were the greatest thing ever. Now its PvP 1v1 that ultimately is left.

[@langleysenterprise5134]

Bludrutbrawl might work

[@joshuaagpawa4098]

hate how it took me a solid 10 minutes for me to realize that "fighting companions" is a stand-in for smash brothers.

[@kyrontokita4066]

Maybe to solve it before a match starts there should be a voting of things that cannot be used in PVP or Brawls, like no potions, scrolls, dmg boost items, banning classes and also set ranges for certain lvls, kinda like how they made those battleground maps for leveling. They can implement harder versions for brawls like bosses can 1 hit you and has an ability to negate debuffs.

[@tabledoor9994]

4:14 makes sense to me, what’s the problem here

[@el8670]

I haven’t been exactly up to date with it, but I think there’s gonna be too much issues with the new aqw so the pvp problem won’t even be noted. Y’all can correct me, but after watching some videos of ragnarok explain some stuff, AE is trying to make as much money as possible with the last few weeks remaining until flash closes, you know, with the rares coming back recolored and the new 40k ac package; it’s quite obvious. I read some comments saying it’s a pattern a company does when their game starts dying. Honestly, I think they’re not confident aqw mobile is going to be as “good” as aqw is right now. I’m not sure where I’m leading with this, but uh... the pvp issue is too small compared to others, so I’m just saying it’s probably gonna remain broken for a while longer

[@7Roxer]

Sadly thats most likely true. We'll just have to wait and see how it goes.

[@victorjun2421]

At this point I'm just farming everything i wanted to farm so i won't regret anything when aqw mobile comes out.

[@dirt8718]

Well you can still play aqw through the launcher even after flash is gone

[@ikmal7784]

Nice vid Shim, can you tell me what soundtrack is at 5:14?

[@CrossKaizer17]

Remember the potion incident? Time to recreate that

[@Murasane]

I know how this is going to sound but I have a friend who used to work for AE as a writer and he told me when they originally made PVP it such a hassle that it nearly sunk half the dev team so im pretty sure at that they said screw it and gave up rather than go through that mess again.

[@percfiend69206]

Real OGs remember when PvP first came out and the DragonLord class from having a DragonFable membership was 1-2 shotting everyone

[@nathanmahmod9025]

They should have a system where you can only use non-op classes (mage, warrior, dragonlord etc.) in pvp. Fighting someone in pvp using non-op classes are actually fun.

[@cloudy2803]

Agreed they should make classes designed for pvp or something

[@aqwdblader8696]

@@cloudy2803 They're called dodge classes... more specifically Blademasters'

[@KenTJY]

I wanna point out that Artifact Hunter also have a massive HoT and a absurd buff for Damage, literally Doom or Destiny (also the reason of the doom and destiny wheels) It's the few classes I love to use from time to time

[@izshtar]

yeah, love that you had to create a video about this abomination.

[@dechrysoph5298]

I luv when shiminuki uploads videos that are not class reviews

[@ZipperKnight181]

Poor Mindbreaker just feigned at the sight of a GT

[@Crazy2fan23]

Hey Shiminuki, Is the “Evolved dark caster” class considered rare nowadays? (Not the one you can craft)

[@Shiminuki]

The class named "Evolved Dark Caster" is rare, the skill set isn't though.

[@muhammadhabibnurain2298]

Evolved is rare but inifinite dark caster which has the same skillset is not

[@Crazy2fan23]

Yeah that’s what I meant hehe, I got the Dark caster class when it originally came out. Good to know. Thanks for responding.

[@nowifi8063]

woah woah woah...yesterday i was there in the lobby with that todoroki looking guy....could i have been in the presence of shiminuki senpai and not even known it?!

[@ecthelionalfa]

im a proud user of artifact hunter

[@theylhompst]

I think that once you enter the arena your HP should scale with your stats. If your level 100 and have upwards of 800 magical power then your health should be between 20-30,000 HP, and so two people fitting that criteria makes for a more interesting fight imo. AQW battle arena fights happen way too fast for it to be interesting, especially with NSOD, but if both players had the same HP as the dragons in /lair while having the same stats as a regular player then PVP in AQW could actually be really fun.

[@Marcuski31]

It would be cool if you could customise, like balance skills, change damage, maybe even have a timer!

[@KalkansAE_AQW]

Remember when bludurt brawls were full and you could hardly solo the restorers? Its been a long time man

[@ameyakabra449]

PvP today is two words. Void Highlord

[@GraverGaming]

Tbh I just hope you notify us in what to do about the new AQW

[@cathropey9943]

Good ol necromancer days :(

[@samuelwang232]

If it’s possible, they could adjust a class’s numbers to balance it out specifically in PVP like League’s Howling Abyss does for certain champions. Don’t know if AQW’s system could do that though.

[@ademaiad9872]

It can actually. Barber class has something like that with its 5th skill I think

[@myrnialucifer3547]

Well, first thing I gotta say, you forgot to mention there's another bug that rarely happends but god is annoying when it does. I call it "Stun Glitch", which well, whenever you or enemy stun each other for some VERY rare reason both of you can't do anything. You both can move but if you try to attack, your skill goes off but doesn't do damage. Is like you're both there saying "Hi". It fixes after some time but still, it has happend to me many times and I don't have any idea of what causes it. Anyway, the fix to the ussie is not as easy as "placing new amulet and monsters, heh!". My ideas are: 1- General Class re-balance: Remove stuns/lower stuns duration and remove hit chance from classes that should not be having them (Cof cof Great Theif) aswell as maybe lowering some number on damage resistance (I think they should place back that VHL stacks up his damage resistance instead of having 50% right away, is so unfair to have Cap max resistance by just pressing one buttom and dealing so much damage at the same time). The game got so many unbalance classes that needs tweaks to work fine on PvE and not beign mosters in PvP. 2- Better sync: This is also something that bothers me to no end and it needs to stop. This doesn't only affects PvP, but PvE aswell. I'm tired of seeing people on spots that they aren't. 3- "Star of the match" and "end of the match" things: One idea that i had is maybe at the start of the match give each player a lot of damage resistance until they are both loading just fine, aswell as some resistance to stuns and such so you can actually do STUFF and not beign one-shotted/stunned right after your screen loaded. Also same thing goes for end of the match things, so you don't have to change your class to remove a DoT or something. 4- Rework Bludrutbrawl: Place everything to today's standars, make the Captian have buffs aswell as resistances to stun and all of that kind of things, same goes to every important mob inside. 5- Ban usables/NSoD: I think is unfair that just a few that took it's time to farm the sword could have that huge adventage. Also, something aside, kinda Pay to Win if you get this sword out of any IoDA just to use it in here. Regardless, I think is an unfair adventage that you can use items in this as not all take they time to farm this items and I understand it. This also will help with the one-shot situation. For the overall items, it's also unfair since not all brings things to the PvP, kinda of a unfair thingy too. Honestly, there so much to be work on. I think what they should do instead of making new stuff, is improving the things we already have. I do believe there's already enough content, just the quality of most of the old things is pretty bad. Good video!

[@sandisahrulsidiq4667]

Nice video But why there isnt your voice

[@Chyguy]

I think, they should rework every class designed for PvP into something good for PvE, and then make a proper PvP where potions don't work, NSoD/BBoA/ETC don't work, and most importantly, player stats and level are reduced/raised to a certain level (like 45-55) so that its a fairer playing field. Maybe half the effectiveness of buffs/debuffs in PvP too, i dunno. Maybe also fix all the glaring issues too, yeah.

[@Necroxion]

Ah, reminds me of that time I was a rank 2 Necro, got challenged by a rank 10 Royal Battlemage (pre-rework) Idiotically spammed 1 for about 30 seconds while also getting massive heart attacks on my health being so low Royal Battlemage was pulling all the stops: explosive shields, big animations, all the fireworks then it occurred to me that I had a whole second skill that I just spammed for about 15 minutes and won with

[@dechrysoph5298]

You forgot the most broken thing pre stacking MoM and Dmom class or any class for that matter but Mom is the most broken one

[@hayatopendragon2796]

Lord Shiminuki! Name of the songs please!! Specially the second one.

[@RagingPeanutButter]

Remember the days that you can get yourself a necrotized warrior in a day from pvp, by just using the ninja class?

[@warmpereer65]

I wonder what Shiminuki does when there is no new class in AQW.

[@GoodLookingVideoBros]

back in my day, rogue and pirate was the best class for pvp

[@langleysenterprise5134]

You don't use the barber class back then?

[@GoodLookingVideoBros]

@@langleysenterprise5134 there was no barber.

[@langleysenterprise5134]

@@GoodLookingVideoBros yeah there was, it was basically a reskin of the rogue class

[@Sehkh_]

theres should be a flat nerf on every stat so matches dont end up dodging indefinitely or getting one shotted, this would mean everyone would have less damage, hp, crit chance and so on

[@elderscrolls6795]

lmfao i laughed so much when you rushed enemy teams captain with GT and one of them just gave up after they couldn't hit you xD

[@ghazzi4316]

the king is back lads

[@AJLaz000]

there are a few things they can do with this. 1st is there should be a boost cap. it doesn't matter if yu have an NSoD + potions, Boosts should automatically be capped at maybe 20-30%. 2nd is something I have experienced myself by playing other games with pvp mechanics, Dmg auto nerf for 1v1 and HP multiplier for TeamVTeam. with the former whenever 2 players do 1v1 their dmg outputs are immediately nerfed before the match begins(there is always a countdown) so no matter how strong they are the match will always last longer than how you would expect. with the latter, upon entering a team vs team pvp, the Health of all players is increased sometimes 5x sometimes 10x, it doesn't really matter how how many times, the point to this is to keep everyone from one-shotting other people especially since AoE skills are extremely hard to counter if you fight with your usual base HP number. and this also makes team v team more engaging and would actually force players to cooperate with each other as you can not just simply solo multiple people even if you have AoE abilities and thus promote more teamwork. 3rd is that extra effects like debuffs/buffs/heals etc. are immediately nerfed as well. whether that be with their durations(like in this one game I play, when doing pvp, all abilities with stun effects are immediately nerfed to only stun for 2 seconds on 1v1) and with their numbers like capping the numbers of the buffs you can stack on yourself to, once again, prevent one-shotting. however, while I do have these suggestions, at the end of the day AQW is not a pvp game and no matter what people say it probably never will be unless of course they force it upon players and with their declining playerbase, that is a very VERY bad idea. especially since if I remember correctly during the earliest years of the game I can still remember people absolutely HATED farming for the DragonBlade of Nulgath requirements because it involves a LOT of PvP. yes the item itself was quite an achievement to acquire but did we like queueing up for matches with some people either having op classes that are almost impossible to counter or other people just afking when the match starts? nah, we didn't, it was annoying. so lo and behold after a few pvp related end game items they stopped involving pvp in farming and just let players farm however they want.

[@YJH-UH]

He’s back the legend

[@rngsmiles3979]

I think that the item damage buff should not apply when fighting other players, since there is already a powercreep problem. Not to mention it is not a very new player friendly item that can make one person deal literally 50% more damage than another player as a base. That really helps prevent people from joining pvp, it also doesn't help that levels are not auto scaled so if you've not maxed your character then you are at a disadvantage from the start. So for sure I agree with it needing a re-work of some sort. I think that it could be improved greatly with a few small changes: like reduce stun duration vs players and make skill like flame barrier and temp insanity less effective, remove all outside damage bonuses, and limit the bonus item slot to only a few pvp specific items that could come with the potential pvp update.

[@arvildasgupta5938]

I don't know why, but everytime I watch ur videos feels like playing dragonfable

[@ivannbayle552]

Keep it up shiminuki!

[@marianojohnmarlonb.8744]

This is the reason why me and my friends sometimes play pvp but using non op classes like mage, rustbucket and etc. and without using consumables and dmg booster equipments.

[@nocturn333]

So here's the big question. Who is the Brawl Metaknight of AQW?

[@Wogi25]

VHL is hard to beat in PvP but I remember one time that I defeated VHL using rogue class. Lol

[@MD.1111]

i was gobsmacked at the self kill

[@jasonjing7954]

Shiminuki you doing any video on post buff on defender class ?

[@audrictoledo7209]

Can you make a Class Overview on Daimon? Ii have the class for a long time but I don't use it since idk the rotations and enhancements

[@venalius9231]

What's the music btw? Its really good

[@theliar4558]

Give 20k amulets and watch as DoTs take over.

[@Zelrith]

shim could you do a overview on defender and underworld chronomancer

[@kingsizemedal]

Shimi, will you be doing a Defender rework overview?

[@thesuper3channel761]

My suggestion would be when you enter a pvp arena you’re hp would be maxed out at 1k and the damage would be have a max too

[@gaderic]

They could have encouraged pvp and balanced it by having pvp only classes. Either they being altered versions of current classes or classes that are only usable in pvp.

[@lordlythis1407]

Let it remain broken for eternity.

[@OmniMon94]

I have an idea for another class review the starter classes

[@aqwskorpiona5803]

Can u do the flame dragon warrior and Archfiend class ?

[@LegionZGaming]

back in my day Necromancer was the most OP class

[@kookkook2476]

back in my day dragonlord was the strongest class

[@mkiller1112]

Whats the music at the 2:50 mark?

[@DarkFireKiller125]

PvP was and always will be an afterthought. With the way classes are PvP will never be given attention because there's no way to fix it. Nerfing classes just for PvP isn't worth it. HeroSmash was built with PvP in mind, and that's why they had leaderboards and other big PvP features. Of course things like the DoT tick or self kill can be fixed, but there's not really any reason to fix the PvP system as a whole. PvP is more of a niche thing and the people that take it seriously will battle others that take it seriously with self set rules. Most of the AQW population would only PvP for trophies, and would likely just solo grind it like you showed anyway.

[@Valstrax_]

When I started in 2014 the strongest class was NECROMANCER.

[@WCP4RM4N]

I miss the time when Bludrut Brawl can be more than 15 minutes long

[@niceaccoun]

You were the one tht made thm make a new amulet i think

[@dragonripperae9606]

Make a video on how to counter the holy-grail-classes of AQW PvP like Artifact Hunter and Great Thief

[@eszp6872]

would love to see a 20k+ hp amulet

[@nachisenpai9127]

Artifact Hunter class is still a beast.

[@sinrai8672]

Does anyone know the name of the song playing in the beginning?

[@megane7044]

In the words of Todd Howard: It just works.

[@leatherneck3547]

prestacking mom is unbeatable

[@suryapandora8968]

7:16 perfect sync

[@samshapira8295]

Update- they fixed the Suicide exploit.

[@IAmGhostOfTheUchiha]

Yeah remember elemental draco? Good times

[@ipanflytsu4201]

In summary, I think the real problem is stun.

[@AlukardTheDeathknight]

This why i stick with Sword Master (Blade Master copy) or Sword Master Assassin whichever when i dodge thoughs pesky stuns and unleash 3,2,4,2,4,2,4,5,4,2,3 repeat and with spiral carve for perfection

[@muhammadhabibnurain2298]

I think removing the damage boost from any item can help this issue. As for op class, increasing the hp bonus from amulet can help to make the fight last longer and give player a chance to retaliete before got bursted. Also increasing the veriety of amulet can make pvp more interesting such amulet that gives you hit chance bonus but only gives you like 500 to 1000 hp bonus instead of 5000 hp, etc Fixingthe suicide bug is a top priority. As for bludrut brawl, maybe make a kill count system, where the number of trophy you get is equal to the number of enemy player you kill. Finally put MORE items and reward or even pvp ranking syste to encourage player to pvp instead of afking in yulgar.

[@eyelanderfreelander3375]

You're not going to cover the Revamp Defender?

[@magalhaesmaga9705]

Hi bro Can you please make a video with your AQLight Options our just a print , when i play wit aql i get more lag XD

[@gengarette1214]

you can use consumables on pvp and multiplayer pvp???