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Shin Megami Tensei 4 Apocalypse 4 FINAL Boss YHVH [APOCALYPSE] [PEACE]
First time playing through SMT4 series.
Sequel too SMT4 (sorta)
Streaming this as I play through it, but still will make a movie out of it.
Pre-ordered a 3ds built in capture card a while ago 2016 (February) from Keity, but it takes around 5 months for them to make/ship it (I received it July 8th). Originally I had a 3ds XL just for this game, but the screen on a handheld device was just way too annoying to play on, and I'm not a fan of that but now I can play 3ds games on a monitor/tv with a lot bigger screen and it's a lot better now.

[@mr.redhands8390]

"The final boss in SMT turns out to be God" How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, Old Man?

[@megamike15]

you only fight him twice in all of smt.

[@NobleAbsinthe]

@@megamike15 newish to smt. I thought you face him in smt 2,3, and here. Was kagutsuchi God?

[@megamike15]

@@NobleAbsinthe kagusuchi is an aspect of god. a piece that broke off.

[@NobleAbsinthe]

@@megamike15 oh OK, I guess that makes sense. Sorry been a while since I played nocturne. All I remember is punching a giant face in the sky after killing all my friends.

[@toyguismailov4199]

@@NobleAbsinthe You also fight him in Megaten 2

[@LB-py9ig]

There's a running joke that jrpgs are all about killing God with the power of friendship. SMT just takes that a bit more literally.

[@NekomataChriston]

SMT 2 basically, punching, kicking & shooting

[@dearickangelonej.legaspi6686]

Everytime we kill a literal god we have our friends with us...... Except when we pick the TDE ending and other solo routes hahaha

[@mistahjenkins4826]

And for someone like me... This kinda shit is therapy. .u.

[@AegisAuras]

Maybe the real God was in the friendships we made along the way.

[@ardibetrayal3493]

@@AegisAuras i like to believe that too someday

[@zeroderorero3948]

NO ONE FORMS AN UNDERSTANDING OF YHVH FROM HIS PERSONAL EXPERIENCES LIKE GASTON!

[@birdofterror6628]

Memes aside I do feel like Gaston completely freaking Roasted YHVH. He had the best banter.

[@Don_Akane89]

*NO ONE

[@zeroderorero3948]

@@Don_Akane89 you are correct sorry editing now

[@christopherbravo1813]

in my opinion, the denials are all bad. completely short-sighted and completely ignoring God's true character, not to mention promoting ideas that would lead to a terrible, terrible world.

[@birdofterror6628]

Christopher Bravo yeah we should just smile and nod whenever God delivers plagues or floods the world or drops meteors on cities because they don’t want to be shackled into spiritual slavery. Imagine reading the Bible and even coming to the assumption that Jehovah isn’t a huge asshole. We must be reading different books.

[@zaqareemalcolm]

YHVH being Rigby is even funnier when you consider the party deny YHVH's nature by more or less telling him to "STOP TALKING"

[@thestarfromyugioh]

Holy shit, really?!

[@zaqareemalcolm]

@@thestarfromyugioh yeah, William Salyers

[@thestarfromyugioh]

@@zaqareemalcolm Damn, that man is ridiculously blessed

[@thestarfromyugioh]

Oh shit, I just remembered he also voiced Reverend Rod Putty in _Moral Orel._ Went from voicing a worshipper to God to straight up God Himself

[@rustyshackle8000]

"YHVH! LUCIFER! IF YOU DON'T CLEAN UP TOKYO BY THE TIME I GET BACK, YOU'RE FIRED!"

[@knju1monsterhunt656]

1:17 You know what would be pretty dickish? If YHVH made it so that the way to him via his giant door was like the endless stairs from Super Mario 64.

[@Cosplaybuddygiraffes]

Nanashi has to BLJ to kill God

[@matt4193]

@@Cosplaybuddygiraffes But first, we need to talk about Parallel Game Cycles

[@Ephraim225]

Backwards long jumps ahoy

[@slugofborg6532]

“Ah, I see you’ve chosen to go back two steps, Nanashi. That means you want to rejoin me, right?”

[@t-universegamer7609]

I mean, the staircase is already big as fuck

[@zeroderorero3948]

I love how how when it says it's name it sounds like a Scratch in a disc... as if either our brain can`t grasp what he is saying or that he has no name and YHVH is the only way our mind can fill that blank

[@artofthepossible7329]

More a reference to how intentionally impossible to pronounce God's name is (just chucked this into Google Translate, it's spelled out by letter) YHWH, and as YHVH is a corruption of Commander Benevolence and Power (as seen by a good few lines in the fight) so too would the name.

[@jacobfreeman5444]

The pronounciation is a lost knowledge. So anything is suitable as the true sound of the name is no longer known. Sides, when describing a entity like this I think having a name that is odd is quite fitting.

[@lizardirl9488]

Yahweh is the closest approximation we've got, but it really is unknowable. The record scratching could also be in reference to it being taboo amongst many jews to say God's true name, hence why YHWH or Yahweh is avoided, and why he is often also refered to as simply the Hebrew word for god/gods elohim. I may be misremembering stuff though.

[@Nonaggress]

@@lizardirl9488 See, that was my first guess as to what that was-more like a cosmic censor bleep than an expression of eldritch incomprehensibility.

[@PaintedHoundie]

@@lizardirl9488 no that's spot on. It was considered so sacred it became taboo to just casually say his name out loud. yhwh is the closest thing we have to how it's spelt but we don't even officially know how it's pronounced because of how much Jewish traditions avoided the name

[@AgentNine]

Ah yes. Giant Shiny Floating Golden Polygon Head _ft. Rigby from the Regular Show series_

[@blizzardforonline1954]

Wait, are you serious, buddy?

[@asuratakehaya6884]

Yep Rigby and Yhvh have the same VA

[@samuelaguilar1537]

@@asuratakehaya6884 ...omg

[@sloth4844]

Great, I can never unsee this now

[@BoomTribeEntertainment]

This is actually hilarious

[@Mazapan404]

Televangelists in the 90s: Pokemon is the devil! Evolution is blasphemy! Game Devs in the modern days: Wich of your friends wil you ask to deny YHVH lol

[@grandmasterjayd1184]

I mean, Altus has been making SMT since the early 90s. It’s just that it wasn’t localized til Nocturne (SMT 3), and that one just flew under the radar of evangelists. I’m sure if they new it would’ve made national news lol. Even now SMT still flies under the radar.

[@bloodyidit4506]

@World Denizen It's people like you that craft people who despise religion. If you weren't so far up your ass sinning the sin of Pride, embracing the poison of modern pop religion rather then the investigative roots of science, the art of understanding, which started with religion, your churches would be more full. People haven't lost faith in god, just you. You are untrustworthy, evangelist, greedy for attention and purpose.

[@TheNamelessOne-o4v]

A Pokémon game brought me here.

[@TangensROH]

@World Denizen Hello brother. You're doing God's work well. Keep your spirit up.

[@TangensROH]

@World Denizen Dude, you have my support. I also despise parts of the series, that make you go against YHVH. So you're not alone here.

[@archdiangelo7930]

I'll never get over how this game somehow managed to turn Navarre into one of the best characters. Also seeing Jonathan and Walter come back and the old party get back together for the final fight, I'm not ashamed to say I cried a bit

[@brotbrotsen1100]

This game gets way to much shit, yeah i get that it has stronger friendship themes than the other mainline games but it isn't persona like many claim, not even close. Having more people around you made the game quite interesting.

[@MastaGambit]

@@brotbrotsen1100 I think the people that bitched about this game being "too persona-ey" are all just diehard Nocturne-stans who think that being elitests over an edgier, less sociable SMT game that has demonic screaming battle-theme lyrics makes them cool. :^)

[@FlynnMegaTensei]

@@MastaGambit go off king 👑

[@malsocio]

@@MastaGambit to be fair this game is written like fanfiction and the characters are average at best. i only really liked gaston and navarre, and even then whenever navarre went through personal growth someone would always make an unfunny joke at his expense and it pissed me off everytime. it doesn't even do the whole ""friendship"" thing right

[@MastaGambit]

@@malsocio I agree, but I still think some people gave it a bit too much flack

[@anenemystand5582]

Naoya still has my favorite take down of smt God. "He doesn't protect those who believe in him. He crushes those that dont."

[@ryujinkurogami1683]

Makes sense, considering he's probably one of the few who was directly screwed up by him and has been around long enough to see a lot of bullshit.

[@TheActualMrLink]

One more god rejected

[@jefflol3930]

@@TheActualMrLink FEAR , FEAR GOD AND GIVE GLORY TO HIM FOR THE HOUR OF HIS JUDGMENT HAS COME TO YOU

[@TheActualMrLink]

@@jefflol3930 no, I don’t think I will.

[@modeus9592]

That’s the gnostic concept of it. In gnostic theory YHWH & YHVH is a false god that believes him self to be above the true creator of the universe. Satan is usually considered the good guy in it. If you want to put hours of reading into layman’s terms

[@ivann9924]

Fight a Godly being with the power of friendship *THAT'S ANIME*

[@jellyface401]

So that's why people take final as the black ship.

[@jellyface401]

It has friendship

[@AlgonSoft]

It has a lot to do with the power of friendship, but it comes down to "Rejecting him as God" from a philosophical/moral perspective, while having a team of incredibly skilled people (ghost, assassins, hybrids, and most importantly, samurai) by your side

[@jellyface401]

@@AlgonSoft And if he is not god , he has no right to do what it does and they it just becomes another demon, avery powerfull one but another demon at the end.

[@TheNamelessOne-o4v]

I detest the power of frienship more than that megalomaniac, to be honest. I kind of understand where he is comming from and why he lacks faith in humanity, but enslaving yourself to a thought form is a big no-no. It's not the answer.

[@allecsgaut8161]

Man Shin megami tensei knows how to make a final boss feel like a final boss

[@nore5888]

Kirby does too

[@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69]

@@nore5888 Both involve killing eldritch gods.

[@nore5888]

@@ProfessionalNamielleLewder69 Idk if you have seen the current director of the kirby series, but his art is literally all eldritch horror and it doesnt have the cutesy kirby look, I wish he could draw some demons for SMT

[@Garchomp47]

@@nore5888 even more true with Forgotten land

[@officegossip]

@@nore5888 Recommend any of the titles? I'm interested...

[@Alice89chan]

Also, very interesting how YHVH's demonic form is so similar to Satan, up to even being a seven headed beast; to hint at how his ego is so big he himself brings the Armageddon as a self-indulging means of entertainment, which is mentioned in the game as well.

[@travisoliver6741]

It's even better when you realize that the form is also based upon the Plagues of Egypt. One of his attacks is also "Planned Chaos." His demonized state literally portrays him as the cause of Armageddon and a plague that causes humanity endless suffering. It's one of the most amazing portrayals of God in media

[@MrYTPfan123]

@@travisoliver6741 I wouldn't it call it amazing since it's not accurate, but it's interesting

[@travisoliver6741]

@@MrYTPfan123 "Amazing" doesn't necessarily mean accurate, it just means something that causes awe. I'm in awe at how well-designed it is. But besides his physical appearance (Which very much is inaccurate), his portrayal is like 95% accurate to Old Testament YHVH, seeing as he was pretty psychopathic in it. Hell, even the fact that Lucifer and all demons of chaos are just Patsies of YHVH to make him look good is a very logical conclusion to make of a supposedly omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent God. Also, God is in fact portrayed as the architect of Armageddon, even in Revelation. The Horsemen of the Apocalypse were apparently released by God to have authority over the world, and each of the trumpets that sound (Which cause various calamities) are from God"s Angels. No one points this out usually because it makes God look like an ass who delights in suffering. There's a reason why interpreting Revelation literally is something only fundamentalists do.

[@MrYTPfan123]

@@travisoliver6741 While I never got a bad impression of Him even in the Old Testament, I agree that His punishments there are very severe. Revelation (no s at the end) is largely hidden messages in the form of apocalyptic imagery. It's mainly about the oppression of the Jews under the Roman Empire. I don't get why fundamentalists give it so much power and take it literally, but Christians in the west like the idea of an upcoming apocalypse. I myself live in a country where Eastern Orthodoxy is practiced, and their takes on scripture are a lot more reasonable. Translations of the bible are better too. Overall, it's you're right to choose what to believe imo

[@beanlets]

To be fair, YHVH likely was worshipped along with a demonic force around the early Persian era

[@otakamerd1220]

YHVH: If you stop now, I'll forgive you Also YHVH: *get debilitated lol*

[@christopherbravo1813]

hey, at least he doesn't kill you.

[@farizr.batarai8271]

I rather my stats get debilitated than getting my hp halved

[@kashinovirus7278]

I just now realized you have to reject god's word three times before facing him like how Peter denied jesus three times

[@_Flame_Pillar_]

🙏💀 This game wildin cuh

[@bonnie1020a]

I like how the faces he makes in his first phase are based on the sprites from SMT II

[@someguy4405]

This version of YHVH is a pretty good visual representation of infinity.

[@christopherbravo1813]

how so?

[@someguy4405]

@@christopherbravo1813 He's an infinite number of heads into the distance, kind of like stars in the sky.

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@someguy4405 I guess that's an interesting point, but even the stars aren't limitless. there is only a finite amount of them.

[@Ragitsu]

@@christopherbravo1813 Says who?

[@JuniorNavarrete6233]

Above true infinity actually

[@IkeSan]

Rigby from Regular Show: "I AM GOD WOAHHHHH!"

[@daneyal7162]

*"SHOW ME WHAT YOU'VE GOT"*

[@MichaelMartinez-bz7fy]

"SNAKEEEEE!"

[@austinodonnell6485]

SON OF MAN, I WANT TO SEE WHAT YOU’VE GOT!!

[@493HZ]

THERES ONE EVERY INSTALLMENT

[@NIHIL_EGO]

ARE YOU A WINNER ?

[@Fabri_Floyd]

2nd phase music is outstanding, I've never heard such a suitable tune for fighting a corrupted god.

[@marcosfelipe018]

9:08 "I'll lend you my power, kid. Let's DRAG HIM FROM THAT THRONE." The way the voice actor delivered this... chills. Profane. Just perfect.

[@jaxet.rasaid]

Literally is a dose of bloodlust.

[@DemonDraKe682]

Sounds really poor to me, the Japanese dub is way much better

[@maro_vela_22]

@@DemonDraKe682You’re prolly the same guy who praises Persona 5 Joker’s VA and no else, I’m sorry but I find your criticism baseless, some 🇯🇵ese VA’s can just be as bad as 🇺🇸 ones, how is Xander Mobus as the VA of Dagda much worse? Personally I believe both parties did a good job, it’s not a black and white situation.

[@bryanng8599]

The fight is probably the most RNG fight in the game...if he get crits with any of his attacks....he will most likely wipe you out.

[@videomaker580]

And unless you have Pierce, you have to rely on the RNG to open a weakness to exploit with Flynn as the resistance that gets lowered is random as well.

[@PooterTilt]

Vishnu flynn: haha mazandyne go wooooosh **lost demons**

[@NihilistCoomerLord]

@@PooterTilt laughs in hallelujah

[@FormerMoonGod]

I decided to purchase this game recently as a means to call this one of my final downloads onto my 2ds before everything was shut down for good... I just beat this boss today. And it took: multiple salamanders to fuse up to the top tier of heralds before new game+, demon enhancing the crap out of two elementals in sylph and Undine to which both had some kind of necessary skill like magoan and dekaja (had silent prayer instead), fusing down to megami norn to get a demon proficient in support spells, sacrificing two seraphs to get the herald below when fused with one copy of this enhanced undine with the other merging with a divine angel (adv.) to get Demiurge, using gnomes to get reaper mot (I got lucky that one of his skills changed to war cry so I could conserve mp with a debuff to the stats that really mattered here), then honestly just trying to load myself up with basic backup demons like Python who I used to debuff, getting another divine angel, and fusing MORE SALAMANDERS TO GET THE LITERAL KING OF ALL DICKS (You know what I am talking about if you played any megaten game). I put this all here because you would be 100% right and needs to be reiterated. Never have I ever had a boss battle get my heart racing so bad and never did I think I would get so tense over every little thing this alternative version of the creator god did. Obviously it did. It did, and when I got to a second prompt, with my friends cheering me on... oh my god you summed up so much of my pain. If you ever read this despite your comment being posted two years ago, man... we must be some really messed up people if we were willing to persist until we finally beat this blasted thing. Holy crap. I didn't do it on easy but I certainly didn't do this on hard. Buff maister is something else.

[@radupon]

I got this ending when I played this last year and even after coming back and seeing it again it just feels... So weird for a mainline smt game

[@mikethepokemaster2012]

It a neutral good ending

[@oharo8382]

Why

[@Windermed]

@@oharo8382 it's strange for the reason being that mainline SMT isn't usually known for it's "power of friendship" endings as usually the friends you make along the way end up forming their own beliefs and depending on which route you choose you'll have to kill your friends in order to move forward. and in SMT IVA's case none of that necessairly exists (if we ignore the Massacre route) as the peace ending for IVA strays off from what you'd expect in an SMT game and more so in Persona/Devil Survivor

[@DemonDraKe682]

@@Windermedyet still in SMT 3 you restore everything and recover your dead friends at neutral ending

[@DMG-Again]

@@DemonDraKe682yet that ending is a bad ending. It fixes nothing and literally says that you just start the whole cycle over again

[@Seydaschu]

> Who will you have deny YHVH? >>Brian's Mom "A'right, no need to shout!" > Brian's Mom nods to you and takes a step forward. "He is not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!" > Brian's Mom forms an understanding of YHVH from her personal experiences. > YHVH's preachings of divinity are denied.

[@kertchu]

Who is Brian’s mom?

[@F1areon]

blessed are the cheesemakers

[@mammothplant]

based reference

[@botbuster8841]

now you listen here, he's not the messiah he's a very naughty boy now go away

[@jamesvanitas]

“WHAT HAVE THE ROMANS EVER DONE FOR US?!”

[@zlectricute1906]

14:45 hey YHVH can you uhh never make that face again

[@StServal]

For the love of yourself, YHVH, stop!

[@Voltan]

lol haha he looks like a demented Professor X

[@TheSoldercreeper]

;)

[@johnmilton9789]

@@StServal Think of the children! Will someone think of the children?!

[@thepersondotjpg]

@@johnmilton9789 Don't think of the children, my dude. *Think of the demons who were oppresed by this golden heady.*

[@MrNrj6490]

who would win: record scratch man or edgy anime boy

[@TangensROH]

Record Scratch Man, no questions.

[@kertchu]

Tie, no questions

[@MiguelAngel-go4ck]

Anime scratching boy

[@seelkamoon4481]

Edgy Record Man

[@aetherland1883]

incel anime boy

[@TheOneGuitarGuy]

MC: "It's time that we face God!" YHVH: "Uh, ACKSHUALLY IT'S PRONOUNCED YOD???"

[@Shade497]

Playing SMT 5 is gonna be weird

[@someguy4405]

THE GOD YOU WORSHIP IS D E D

[@gjahmato8704]

@@someguy4405 lucifer is dead too, and so are the other major players of law and neutral. So.... Who's gonna be the big bad ?

[@someguy4405]

@@gjahmato8704 The buddha?

[@gjahmato8704]

@@someguy4405 Very unlikely considering people complained about the devine powers, maybe hitoshura or nanashi due to their endings where they become villains?

[@someguy4405]

@@gjahmato8704 Who complained about the divine powers????? I didn’t complain about the divine powers. *toot*

[@hoy5570]

flynn's battle grunts are so good that i wished og smt4 also had battle grunts

[@the-ms8fz]

Also walter's "lol sorry about that" gives him a lot of charm imo

[@acedelta12]

This is common for characters like Nanashi, but seeing their first smile like that is always heartwarming...

[@ghostlanceryderwilson]

Flynn's battle quotes are so good, Keith Silverstein did a great job

[@optimaltt6070]

I like how this fight is ironically EASIER after Flynn's party dies.

[@EveryoneHarmonyPeace]

I love how they pronounce YHVH.

[@jacobfreeman5444]

Well, no one really knows the true pronunciation. It is a lost knowledge. So this is as good as any.

[@whowantstotalkaboutmurders4177]

It is pronounced as eoxjeqbcoudqxnqozmqspemfwuxovd

[@ZeroHelios46]

@@jacobfreeman5444 Pretty sure it's pronounced "Yahweh". It's the Jewish god after all.

[@manuelmateo3392]

@@ZeroHelios46 That's an approximation. The Tetragrammaton is said to be unpronounceable and unknowable, since it's the actual name of God, the "I AM". The Hebrews only put down those letters without syllables out of respect, but the true name of God is apparently unknowable. They did it here by making the characters literally be unable to say it, the universe itself making it so they can't speak it.

[@jacobfreeman5444]

@@ZeroHelios46 That is the best guess. It likely is accurate. But yeah...the knowledge of the pronounciation is lost. So it can only be a guess.

[@Roshea]

Love the final moments in Devil Summoner/Survivor/SMT when all the characters give their final words before the boss. I think Fire Emblem did it as well up to Awakening.

[@christopherbravo1813]

I think it's cheesy.

[@chargemankenia]

Awakening fucking suck

[@AzumarillConGafasBv]

Fire Emblem did that way back before Awakening

[@Roshea]

@@AzumarillConGafasBv 🤡

[@acedelta12]

Hallelujah's denial of God is something I want to tell my own dad. "You demand so much without giving anything in return. How is that right?"

[@kertchu]

Did he go shopping for milk one day?

[@shadowspark]

In the end, the story of God is basically the story of a disgraced father.

[@cornycontent1915]

@@shadowspark yep, pretty much

[@mistahjenkins4826]

This demands so many questions, but at the same time, I can kinda relate?

[@TylireousGaming]

@@shadowspark I mean, he (YHVH) sacrificed his own son without asking if he (jesus) was ok with it or not. In the garden before jesus was crucified, he sweat blood. While possible, it only is out of EXTREME stress and duress that one is able to sweat blood. YHVH didn't have his own sons consent, but god had jesus nailed to a cross regardless. So he's not the good guy by any means.

[@RpgBlasterRpg]

The only two 3D model for the final boss in the whole fucking game since every enemy sprite are 2D

[@franciscocataldo9238]

what about Shesha

[@farizr.batarai8271]

I mean doea chemtrail count

[@GameJoltTobi]

I am legitimately worried for the mental health of some people in this comments section

[@CyberLink70]

How come?

[@zenshimagatsuyukazashi6244]

@@CyberLink70 i would assume it's in consideration for that one comment chain that had the guy talking about how Atlus did a horrible job of conveying YHVH as the "One True God" in SMT. I just like the game, didn't need a discussion of ACTUAL context and basis because it's not really supposed to convey that....

[@yoman5029]

@@zenshimagatsuyukazashi6244 dude's an angry christian ranboo fan, lmao like, okay, i get it; god may be inaccurate, but it also makes sense for him to be evil in some context

[@zeroomega3781]

@@yoman5029 common religious nuts do be like that

[@aetherland1883]

@@zeroomega3781 atheists miscreants also fling shit in the comment section

[@tentilol]

I am *_SLIPPING SOUND_*

[@KubatheChangeling]

I am... LEEROOOOOOOOOY JENKINS!!! I'm sorry. I felt like this is going to be meme material. XD

[@Max-iq8hi]

@@KubatheChangeling You could as well use JOHN CENA ;D

[@KubatheChangeling]

@@Max-iq8hi So true. But possibilities for this meme will be endless. :D

[@Fizz-Q]

@Wilson Nascimento I AM *that one chinese meme i don't remember*

[@PaintedHoundie]

@Wilson Nascimento funny enough I think the bleep is a reference to yahweh's name being considered so sacred it's not really allowed to be just casually said out loud.

[@godzilla4189]

Asura from Asura's Wrath would be proud of everyone giving their own screw you to YHVH (just he did to his own One True God entity, Chakravartin).

[@Raximus3000]

More like to the jackass who claimed to be above all and the creator of all while he was a creation here and some alien asshole in Ashura's Wrath.

[@jacksimpson8529]

The only way he'd like it more is if every denial of YHVH's Divinity was capped off with the denying party member punching him in the face.

[@christopherbravo1813]

Asura would like it even better if they didn't bother with edgy Atheist crap and just went on with the pummeling from the start.

[@trutyatces8699]

I am Infinity. The Supreme Be- *Shut up YHVH.*

[@Humaricslastcall]

@@jacksimpson8529 I mean. The two parties do do that.

[@lifeisbutavapor9396]

The writing is thoughtful and enjoyable. Very impressed.

[@christopherbravo1813]

interesting. care to elaborate?

[@LightKing1237]

@@christopherbravo1813 You get to kill a tyrant god. All needs to be said

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@LightKing1237 that's not thoughtful or enjoyable.

[@LightKing1237]

@@christopherbravo1813 when you concider the tyrants actions, it actually is!

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@LightKing1237 I have. and I have concluded that we are the villains. however, I am willing to hear evidence to the contrary.

[@someguyparagon5273]

Sooooooo... Everything building up to this moment.. Being referenced in every game since smt 2... and now you fight GOD!!! What did you think buffmaister??

[@BuffMaister]

As of mythology, I didn't know what or who YHVH was. Was weird seeing a big head

[@SwobyJ]

Mythology? That's the Jewish religion! (/s its all myth to me, including even modern 'mythos' ideas of god)

[@oroborosspaghetti6425]

BuffMaister Well, the bible (and Paradise lost for that matter) does say that yhvh is incomprehensible to humans. So if a giant golden head is apparently incomprehensible, what does that say about us? Lol

[@Bit01ByBit01]

@@oroborosspaghetti6425 that could be what the human mind interprets YHVH

[@raikaria3090]

@@BuffMaister YHVH is basically the Jewish God [And therefor also the Christian and Islamic god; since they're all abrahamic faiths; ultimately; they all believe the same God]

[@MastaGambit]

No one forms an understanding of YHVH based on their personal experiences like Gaston.

[@christopherbravo1813]

they all suck equally.

[@bane2201]

Man, this music is God-tier. I'll show myself out.

[@GalanOfTruth]

It's kind of wild that you're fighting not just "The God" of this series but the actual God of Christianity or at least SMT's perception of Him. I think this game is wildly underrated, considering it's one of the only SMT where you get to fight him. It still makes me sad that you don't fight him in SMT devil survivor 1.

[@justyouraveragememester5037]

I think YHVH is more of an interpretation of Pre-Christian God, more along the lines of the Old Testament rather than the New. There's no mention of Jesus in the smt-verse, at least to my knowledge

[@DarrylWhiteYT]

@@justyouraveragememester5037 Only in P3, where he's a persona, kinda

[@nodbynobdy]

@@justyouraveragememester5037 i believe jesus *kinda* shows up in devil summoner as a demon of the undead race called agony. "A zombie who is always carrying a cross. He's a martyr who was not reborn in the Kingdom of God after dying. Because his people did not give their lives for their God, he was reborn as a demon. Though he lived through many forms of pain, his God did not ask this of him. Because he only cared about pleasing his God, he became a truly miserable soul."

[@christopherbravo1813]

does fighting God automatically make the worst game a masterpiece? if so, I'm gonna start selling my own excrement as games with God as the final boss.

[@GalanOfTruth]

@@christopherbravo1813 You put literally zero thought into this comment, didn't you.

[@MixRedo]

Pictured: A bunch of kids roasting God into submission.

[@kertchu]

God dies from hurt feelings

[@ozanoxox7057]

😹

[@NightwalkerStreet]

I played this years ago while going through the process of deconstructing my faith. You have no idea how cathartic it was to kill God while denying him by getting the characters in-game to say the same shit I'd been thinking for months...

[@raikaria3090]

I like how Flynn; Waler and Johnathan don't seem to notice Navarre

[@christopherbravo1813]

BASED

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@christopherbravo1813 As always, they do be intentionally ignoring him (given that Flynn was able to see Navarre in the Cosmic Egg)

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@kichiroumitsurugi4363 good for them, they have *something* resembling a personality after all.

[@elementallobsterx]

unironically the characters' denials of god's natures were real af

[@BeeBN]

imagine if the christians who complained pokemon was satanic saw their kids playing THIS

[@pootissandvichhere9135]

The final phase is actually genius. A snake with a glowing end. An imposter demon taking God’s name. Total mastery over the physical realm but utterly clueless about the hearts minds and souls of his subjects. This is not YHVH. This is Yaldabaoth. The final boss them is To Become God’s Enemy. For you it is you being the utter enemy of this imposter. For him it is his transformation’s reason, being exposed as the fraudulent deity he is.

[@doteianima6370]

Peak smt

[@quoiquelveaux1890]

Im not surprised that there's a lot of persona and smt characters share the same voices

[@colonelmustang854]

Atlus seems to draw from the same VA pool a lot. Not that I'm complaining.

[@ElCampeador99]

Considering that the main theme of SMT is reincarnation, the voices could represent different lives in different universes.

[@Fizz-Q]

@@ElCampeador99 OH GAWD

[@SakurakoLover]

Rigby's VA voiced YHWH, a god

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@ElCampeador99 Big brain

[@armand4116]

Epic battle with this double team , I prefer SMT IV over Apocalypse but this final battle is great.

[@crowiltiziodeltreno4177]

When people live good, in harmony, it's always the best ending.

[@seangrogan9393]

When you kill him: So no head?

[@KageDarkAngel]

Loyalty is not owed, it is earned. Now feel the backhand slap of friendship and the fist of righteous retribution slam against that golden jaw of yours YHVH! Clench those teeth! Gods I loved this fight so much.

[@youngkappakhan]

i liked YHVH's name being represented by a distorted noise until the regular human characters started saying it, it takes away the unknowable and divine weight of the true name of God to hear it from your party members as opposed to entities that vastly exceed human authority and understanding like Satan or Metatron saying it.

[@yoso378]

Tbh I feel like it's the point, especially since the last battle is supposed to be denying that he is all-powerful right to his face.

[@youngkappakhan]

@@yoso378 I guess, but they say it before they even see him for the first time.

[@Rick-lq3xo]

2 years later, but basically the reason is, when demons and YHVH say His true name, on the screen as text it’s displayed as YHVH but it’s incomprehensible to humans, the humans in smt only say YHVH as in the actual sounds of the letters, because they can’t comprehend the true sound of His name.

[@NightwalkerStreet]

I've always interpreted it as YHVH being so powerful, he made his name unhearable, even when spoken by the sons of man.

[@SirDawkinsthemad]

Gotta say I'm really proud of Thaos going from the emissary to a god to becoming the big man himself. What a promotion.

[@bently13]

Anyone else find it amusing that Johnathan was the one who dealt the last blow to YHVH in his god form?

[@awesomehazimex7410]

In the end, he really ended it thus

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@awesomehazimex7410 Wrong Samurai

[@laka1889]

​​@@awesomehazimex7410 in the end his demon is a bit different

[@OldTimeyDragon]

Funny piece of trivia: The voice actor for the final boss in this game is the voice actor for Rigby in Regular Show. For the more cultured folks reading this, that's also the same voice actor as Reverend Putty in Moral Orel, which I find kind of ironic and funny.

[@ronterzi2540]

Imagine if he screamed STOP TALKING in the same manner as rigby?

[@douglaslundin4506]

The funny part is, what I took from the final boss' design is that God was the snake that lured Eve to eat the apple, and when his creations did eventually disobey him, he got enraged and being too proud of himself, he pinned the blame on Satan, his brother and Archangel at that point.

[@KordellCunningham]

Where did you hear that?

[@douglaslundin4506]

@@KordellCunningham Oh, it was just something I theorized together after reading the Bible, and I noticed that there was no mention of Lucifer during Adam and Eve's time.

[@buttlord2223]

@@douglaslundin4506 God punished Adam and Eve by expelling them from the Garden of Eden because they were given a single very simple rule to follow and then they didn't, kids get spankings when they misbehave. Luciferians and Satanists are typically rapists and pedophiles and groomers. I hope this helps your interpretation.

[@douglaslundin4506]

@@buttlord2223 Still, the old testament God and his priests were all bloothirsty fanatics as well. And if Adam and Eve hadn't disobeyed God, we'd all been his slaves by now. Lucifer punishes sinners, and no one else, while God punishes non believers. So who's the more selfish one of the two?

[@buttlord2223]

​@@douglaslundin4506 Everybody God killed in the Bible deserved it God also absolves and forgives all who believe in him. I said the same retarded shit when I was 14, you'll grow out of it eventually.

[@patrickchargualaf4375]

I noticed that during the fight on YHVH's second half, you barely healed during the fight. Is there a reason to that? Does YHVH also heal when you heal yourself? The second team got obliterated and the first team there was never a use of mediarahan.

[@Roberto-mm4gr]

I’m guessing because Asahi was there with her OP Mediarama skill

[@sayospecter6731]

Yes, Asahi carries with her trait-boosted Mediarama, so A-Team doesn't need to use healing skills often, if at all.

[@dalaxdercrisper957]

Due to Asahi awakened power, she become the most valuable healing asset

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

We need this on Switch with better character sprite graphics.

[@maskedsaiyan1738]

I concur

[@lowhp_comic]

3d models please! the ones in dx2 look cool

[@JoKoBod]

@@lowhp_comic guess you gotta wait for SMT5...if it gets out from development hell.

[@anonymus5022]

@@JoKoBod You mean never?

[@rf9690]

@@JoKoBod 2021

[@antichthon3597]

1:45 *UNDERSTANDABLE HAVE A NICE DAY*

[@chingmuankim4927]

Mr clean got some work done, gotta respect it

[@joshlee5034]

Can somebody explain to my why out of all of the characters, Navarre has the most convincing denial of YHVH???

[@lezzei]

being a luxorer it's likely that he was exposed to religion like jonathan yet was essentially driven to insanity by the angels and demons in smtiv. he knows how corrupt they are because he had to experience it before any of the others even set out on their journey, and he likely felt betrayed after finding out how terrible angels (and yhvh, by extension) really were.

[@williambradley5415]

I prefer his brother's version

[@christopherbravo1813]

can somebody explain to me why ANY of the denials are convincing?

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@lezzei what are you TALKING about? Navarre was an arrogant asshat who tried to get his comrades killed because they weren't Luxurors like him! he was driven mad after his plans fell apart and he was called out for it! God and the angels had literally nothing to do with any of that! if anything, the protagonist is to blame for making Mikado a class-based society in the first place.

[@lezzei]

@@christopherbravo1813 ehhh, he was pissed off from that but you can tell from his experience in naraku and ESPECIALLY in the quest where you have to locate him (i forget what it's called but it's the one where he's all disheveled and fucked up looking) that his insanity stemmed from a firsthand witness to demons and/or angels

[@taikoninin]

Urghhhhh ANOTHER game that made me cry. I was so close too! But seeing Nanashi's eyes at the end being brown... and him smiling... it makes me so happy

[@prescibee2478]

It seems really cool, I hope they release the whole saga on switch! :3

[@danebirbhaha7520]

Same!!! SMT is great

[@raikaria3090]

Satan: Doing his job YHVH: YOU ARE NO LONGER UNDER MY PROTECTION

[@BeeBN]

Yhvh devil form looks boss af

[@Alice89chan]

I beat this last night~ Man was it hard, but I did it first try. I absolutely love this fight and honestly got to thank you for inspiring me to pick up the game and play it along with a replay of SMT4. No matter how tiny we are against God in this game, this is the ultimate test of how much we mastered it. I loved every second of this game, no idea why people hate it other than Navarre getting dunked on despite actually developing. Enemies of God is an amazing track, this is what I expect from a final boss, both this and phase 2.

[@andhikabirdboi7014]

Some people can't take some stuff containing sensitive stuff (even though, like that one other comment said, that YHVH is just another Lucifer) and didn't bother to research or take it as fun. That is the sad truth.

[@mehek1062]

the soundtrack is amazing

[@MistDemon]

YHVH has failed the vibe check

[@Blackheartzero]

For someone who considers himself the most divine, YHVH made the all-too-human error of bringing hateration and hollaration into the dancery.

[@allecsgaut8161]

An avatar of god that has become corrupt, codemned by the true god, nothing more than a monster scorned by all

[@peacewalker3344]

are you talking about YHVH ?

[@allecsgaut8161]

@@peacewalker3344 Yes, just trying to be poetic about it. The words just came out

[@peacewalker3344]

@@allecsgaut8161 no, i just wanna make sure i don't miss some Other corrupt god, because yknow... oh and btw, i'm new to smt lore, so who or what is the True God of SMT universe?

[@allecsgaut8161]

@@peacewalker3344 I am no expert, but I am definitely sure that it is the Axiom. A formless will, better if you look it up yourself

[@peacewalker3344]

@@allecsgaut8161 thanks

[@epicortez666]

R.I.P the samurais

[@TangensROH]

Let them burn in hell.

[@Ageha_Sashimi115]

@@TangensROH 😳

[@TheBermudaMan]

Huh, an RPG written by Richard Dawkins.

[@VenusFeuerFalle]

such an underrated comment :D

[@user-Void-Star]

Richard Dawkins favorite game

[@AmberAmour]

You win the internet.

[@kertchu]

We all know that Richard Dawkins is up there with the likes of such great video game writers such as Hideo Kojima

[@DrOtto-zn1rv]

@@kertchu Yeah, uh...no. No he's not.

[@ParadiseLordRyu]

They say he’s a coward but he’s far worse. A being of anger, set to destroy those who don’t give him his way. A saboteur, creating and permitting misery and untold injustice for the purpose of drawing people to him for support out of his unquenchable need. A thief, stealing the powers of others to add to his own, denigrating those he had conquered and slandered. And furthermost, a lie, depending on others to maintain his very form As master of the cosmos. Set to be slain By his own “creations”.

[@E0nW0lf]

Literally an incarnation of sin. But don't sin guys Lol.

[@Sage-he9xt]

​@@E0nW0lf using a game as an argument against Christianity is so heckin' smart WOWZERS!

[@E0nW0lf]

@Sage-he9xt WOWZERS When you don't realize a joke when you see one. Also, when you bring up something irrelevant. I was talking about the game, not jeebis Magic Man in the Sky.

[@bluenightgenso6390]

This is what happens when Scooby gang go against God.

[@officegossip]

I've known about the 7 trumpets sounding off to start the final theme song but I just realized that he also has 7 heads in total lol

[@epicortez666]

Navarre should have gotten his human body back and joined the samurais as their partner

[@FormerMoonGod]

And be without a guy who was most likely to give me a free doping? Oh my god, he's the reason I even beat YHVH today.

[@Roocky]

22:15 The way that the song just drop when Gaston is about to roaster YHVH LMAOOOOOOOOO HE REALLY DIDN'T SUGARCOATED IT

[@joshuafoote5144]

I enjoyed YHVH's universe though it did take me a while to get through it.

[@La-Machina]

5:48 call me crazy, but that voice behind the filter sounds s l i g h t l y like Shinji

[@FirstLast-cg2nk]

YHVH: You cannot comprehend me, so you cannot defeat me. Heroes: *Comprehend YHVH* Heroes: *Defeat YHVH* YHVH: *surprised Pikachi face*

[@bradleypearl2986]

The way they pronounce the tetragrammaton sounds like how I imagined it. If you can't pronounce it, it is unpronounceable. Also, Rigby voices **record scratch** here. I wish I was joking.

[@toob_noob4381]

Some say YHWH is like the sound of breathing, with "YH" being an inhale, and "WH" being an exhale. Apparent it would be to seem like god is in everyone and they're always saying his name Idk much though so I just left that in there

[@fate9714]

Giant mr. Clean heads

[@kertchu]

I mean, the resemblance is uncanny

[@angelrubiomunoz5413]

14:45 ok THAT face creep me out

[@wetyewruyrtsutrdhjfg]

That face looks like YHWH was formulating a plan to rape all party members and then eat them.

[@kitkat2849-b3h]

@@wetyewruyrtsutrdhjfg whoa there

[@_Koyomi_]

@@wetyewruyrtsutrdhjfg Yikes

[@achaastheoneaboveall2732]

Whoa, looking cool there, [ *Scratching noise* ] !

[@johnmilton9789]

@@wetyewruyrtsutrdhjfg That's why they bleep out his name. No evidence, no witnesses.

[@MsXynex]

So Mr. Clean is the god of SMT?

[@Minarreal]

SMT V was my first Megaten game, I really liked it. Given that I'll never get to play the 3DS entries, I decided to watch longplays instead. Seeing love triangles, power of friendship, friend banter, and other silly things is a little bit hilarious, V is nothing like this, it's more like a wall, if you exclude Amanozako. It's quite cozy, tbh, I would really like to play this game.

[@KrankuSama]

V's story and character development was really really lacking and disappointing compared to a lot of other megaten games unfortunately, IV Apocalypse isn't the best either but it does at least feel like a complete finished product. You should deffo play SMT IV though, that game is superb

[@lemonov3031]

buying a 3ds challenge: impossible

[@promisnwekenta9703]

Using an emulator is also apparently impossible

[@makoto5309]

I finished apocalypse yesterday and now i can say "I killed god yesterday"

[@king2.0smods17]

Imagine if the first time you played this fight, and you see that YHVH has infinite press turns and you're just sitting there crying because you're not even allowed one press turn.

[@Le3onn]

"SMT 4 person-Apocalypse"

[@winterkill1764]

It's not a jrpg if you don't kill god

[@xbon1]

hilarious alluring banter works on god, that old man

[@neuromancerwintermute8614]

Pretty funny, that music playing before battle, is rearranged SMT II final boss theme. And also, i found quite fun, that YHWH even can forgive you if you turn back. It's means, that he feared Nanashi

[@christopherbravo1813]

I find it quite funny that you said the exact same thing as someone else. it means that you lack independent thought.

[@KingOfhearts72]

It only hit me now the further symbolism of him being the only 3D animated fight in the game.

[@Hanny75423]

Los combates contra Shesha también son en 3D.

[@Seydaschu]

Y'know, while I'm making Monty Python Life of Brian references: "Look, I've had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was 'that piece of halibut was good enough for *RECORD SCRATCH* '!" "BLASPHEMY!! He said it again! Did you hear him?!" ..."Look, I don't think it ought to be blasphemy. Just saying *RECORD SCRATCH* !" "You're only making it worse for yourself!" "Making it worse? How could it be worse? *RECORD SCRATCH RECORD SCRATCH RECORD SCRATCH* !" "I'm warning you! If you say *RECORD SCRATCH* once more," *whump* "ALRIGHT! Who threw that? ...Was it you?" "Well, you did say *RECORD SCRATCH* ." *whump whump whump* "Now look! No one is to stone anyone until I blow this whistle, understand? Even, and I want to make this absolutely clear, even if they do say *RECORD SCRATCH* ." *immediately stoned to death*

[@okramoffacebook1381]

27:07 Oh, i am so angry at you. Let me get my jumper cables.

[@zorochii]

Wow, Isabeau demolishes god.

[@DenisK21]

Just like any god in this setting, it was human understanding of the world that created this cosmic lump of ego dubbed "YHVH". This understanding was flawed, resulting in an equally-flawed "Creator" made up of self-glorification. Why the "Great Will" that YHVH is meant to be an avatar of would design the world in this way will likely always be a mystery. Perhaps the Great Will itself is just as flawed as the world is. Perhaps the world's existence just isn't possible without these flaws. But now we see people, who have experienced and acknowledged the flaws in the world and in themselves, use that new understanding to negate YHVH's alleged supremacy and self-justification, exposing it as not inherently different from any other god that was reduced to a "demon". Human understanding of the world improves; the flaws of the world can now be more acknowledged and continuously dealt with. This may prove a never-ending struggle, but it may perhaps allow all those products of understanding, those "gods", to be reiterated for the better... maybe even YHVH himself.

[@christopherbravo1813]

it'd be nice if all of the gods weren't saturday morning cartoon villains.

[@DarkAdonisVyers]

@@christopherbravo1813 Nah, just Yahweh.

[@christopherbravo1813]

@@DarkAdonisVyers nah, all of them.

[@kichiroumitsurugi4363]

@@christopherbravo1813 I wouldn't classify Krishna as such. As he states, his motive lies in contempt against YHVH due to losing his own divinity. He, along with many other members of the Divine Powers, felt like they must break the chains that bind humans to YHVH, while also returning to the abstract concepts they themselves represented

[@tomthestone1470]

I never even played this game, probably never will, yet this is very intriguing.

[@pvzbronygodgaming8476]

Why is this so intriguing to you, might I ask?

[@JoeyLamontagne]

With all of the Samurai together for this battle, it was NANASHI that kinda controlled what happened to SMT:IV