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Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance - Final Bosses & New Chaos Ending

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@FazPersona
@FazPersona 2 ай бұрын
45:00 So, the moment I did the critical Magatsuhi skill, I remembered that for every crit, Mastema gets an extra press turn you don't want to know how hard I laughed when 45:49 happened
@aslla31
@aslla31 2 ай бұрын
8 turns become a vain 😂😂
@Xman34washere
@Xman34washere 2 ай бұрын
That actually made me laugh
@syarifzaki1878
@syarifzaki1878 2 ай бұрын
It's your fault, because of you I laughed so hard that it hurts my stomach 😂
@joshuariel8496
@joshuariel8496 2 ай бұрын
Same with Law. walkthrough guides to vague or refuse to straight up answer
@l30ng62
@l30ng62 2 ай бұрын
​@@joshuariel8496i think its mainly the sidequests that force you to side with one demon I majorly did the ones that Yoko supported (Leanan Sidhe, Lilim etc.) And got this ending Some dialogue options may also play a role like after Myazu gets rescued if you reply hopeful or nihilistic Basically side with Yoko or Tao whenever you have the opportunity to get their ending
@kieranray5340
@kieranray5340 2 ай бұрын
Glad to see they've preserved Mastema's "have a mental breakdown when he starts losing" character trait from SJ
@JackFrostAegirine
@JackFrostAegirine 2 ай бұрын
One of his skills being called ''Seething Mansemat'' says it all. Mastema's characterization is really well done in Vengeance.
@fesyuki-kun2332
@fesyuki-kun2332 2 ай бұрын
​@@joshuariel8496 I mean let's be fair comparing a higher than God being to a mad delulu scientist isn't a fair comparison but damn mastema is absolutely well written
@VoltitanDev
@VoltitanDev 2 ай бұрын
1:00:12 Nahobino: pretty much sums up Yoko's plan so why are we fighting? Lucifer: It's a test of strength my boy. A test of strength. Demi fiend: Can confirm. Nahobino: I see you're choosing the hard way. Lucifer: Ah I see you got S-Shiva, Makado, and Satan!? Nahobino: Also my girl Yoko, but hey if kicking your ass means breaking this cycle of coping and seething then so be it. Lucifer:*Gulp*
@dc7981
@dc7981 2 ай бұрын
The ideal neutral ending of this game would have been Yoko and Tao kissing and deciding to work together with the Nahobino but atlus realized that ending would be too based so they dropped neutral for this game
@KhangNguyen-ij4xh
@KhangNguyen-ij4xh 2 ай бұрын
Reason is because this mofo skipped out on the daily life and just do dungeon grinding
@Roocky
@Roocky 2 ай бұрын
Gotta love the Lesbian Ending
@CereDulce37
@CereDulce37 Ай бұрын
More like Naho and Aogami
@oboroth51
@oboroth51 Ай бұрын
Degenerate
@orrthehunter
@orrthehunter 2 ай бұрын
In the end, the way I see it both endings are just going to repeat this cycle again eventually. Since this video is focus on Yoko's ending, her world is just uncontrolled Chaos where she believe everyone is "free" to do what they want. However, she never consider the actions of those who are "free" to enforce their own wants on others and oppress others. She really believes no one in her new world will oppress others in her world because she his binded by her own hatred for the current system. A system that will be recreated by someone in her new world because they are "free" to do so when they are strong enough so no one can stop him or her.
@BlackfangDragon
@BlackfangDragon 2 ай бұрын
Satan actually shows up as a Superboss on behalf of Mandala saying both these endings are extremely radical in comparison to the original endings, to the point they don’t really know what could result from it.
@mrex666productions7
@mrex666productions7 2 ай бұрын
No, what Yoko did is to pull a White. Or at least what the White cannot do. Hence the point is it can still happen again.
@orrthehunter
@orrthehunter 2 ай бұрын
@@mrex666productions7 I know that she pulled a white ending. I am talking about what happens after once the world is finally remade after the wipe once the new world Yoko wants to create is made. The result is what it is, she is blind to the flaw of her plan and does not know or ignores the reality that the cycle she hates will repeat again in the new world she plans to create after the whole "white" part.
@joshuariel8496
@joshuariel8496 2 ай бұрын
@@orrthehunter slave to a broken order dare you look upon the truth?
@joshuariel8496
@joshuariel8496 2 ай бұрын
@@BlackfangDragon You know that Satan is Yhvh e girl simp right chaos vengeance final boss is stranger journey new law route 3ds final boss is also Yhvh simp too? he literally cheated and just validated that he's the view point was the one that was right so it makes sense he becomes Satan
@Did_No_Wrong
@Did_No_Wrong 2 ай бұрын
I actually like some of this aspects of the ending, one of those aspects being how intimate the MC is with Yoko with the ending kinda reminding me of Adam and Eve with how Eve convinced Adam to eat the forbidden fruit Yoko convinced the Nahobino to destroy the world and rebirth it. Hell after the credits you see them both under a tree with a snake observing them like in the garden of eden. Makes me wonder if there is a true neutral ending after all.
@thelaymenmuslim4603
@thelaymenmuslim4603 Ай бұрын
You already got true neutral ending on original smt 4 (human only ending)
@oscaralbertococanodiaz2135
@oscaralbertococanodiaz2135 Ай бұрын
I was looking for this comment. I agree with you. Seems completely accurate of this ending meaning.
@TheLostSheep578
@TheLostSheep578 Ай бұрын
If you look closely you would notice that it is the snake Lilith has
@l30ng62
@l30ng62 2 ай бұрын
I ended up picking Yokos preffered choice in a lot of side quests just because I related to her way of thinking more. I thought I could choose my ending like in Creation Welp... sorry didnt meant to end the Universe people! Still this is an amazing Chaos Route. From wiping that smug smirk of Mastemas face, flipping off the Great Will to being with Best Girl at the beginning of a new Garden Eden for a world with no suffering.
@thewhitepikmin2327
@thewhitepikmin2327 2 ай бұрын
I sort of did the same thing but the opposite - I thought Yoko was a bit extreme at times so I'd casually disagree with her in a few of the midgame discussions, and had actually forgotten how many times I'd sided with Tao at the end when the Nahobino just suddenly chose creation and I was like "Oh. Sorry Yoko?"
@azure4622
@azure4622 Ай бұрын
Did the opposite, welp i just saw clones of all my friends who died, they're real people don't get me wrong but they are not the ones i knew
@chobaka
@chobaka 2 ай бұрын
remember this is order and freedom. lucifer implied this since nocturne.
@onetruesavior69
@onetruesavior69 2 ай бұрын
Yet Chaos often led to Law as one demon will always outshine and outrank the others, so YHVH will return.
@chobaka
@chobaka 2 ай бұрын
@@onetruesavior69 It is eventual That Yhvh will probably return but a few things you need to know about the endings and nocturne's importance to smt5. in the terms of law, Tao needed the mandala system to make things work, also in nocturne all you needed was a reason and a demonic/angelic sponsor and a ton of Magatsuhi at least. Now when it came to Yoko and Luci, Luci knew the system since the universe was made and whereas with Yoko being a creator god and being sealed off by the law of god and also being aware of the systems shortcomings. but overall in the shape of things the Neverending cycle of birth and rebirth as well as the conflict of order and freedom, The void might be a answer but it's not a overall answer.
@joshuariel8496
@joshuariel8496 2 ай бұрын
​@@onetruesavior69smt yhvh history has always been consistent a completely unhinged Mary prick sue with the biases and history. I am not talking about the real life history version of it either and I am not going to use my bias to justify my perspective or to say that even correct or false I have more self-respect than that and so does all who read this please that is all have a wonderful day and year and life
@dc7981
@dc7981 2 ай бұрын
@@chobaka if it’s tied to nocturne then it wouldn’t even be yhvh cause the rules in that game are different from others. Nocturne has Amala 4a retconned yhvh to be that he came from the axiom anyway
@chobaka
@chobaka 2 ай бұрын
@@dc7981 uh yeah did you manage to check the young man's room there's a amala drum the bethel teleport area amala drums if smt4a or smt4 have anything it's strange journey.
@aslla31
@aslla31 2 ай бұрын
Basically Law vs Chaos ending is waifu war between Tao vs Yoko
@mrex666productions7
@mrex666productions7 2 ай бұрын
@@joshuariel8496 I just treat it as SMT3 normal ending/SMTV Humanity Ending versus SMTIV White Ending (aside that the White actually can't pull that off) though.
@joshuariel8496
@joshuariel8496 2 ай бұрын
@@mrex666productions7 it reminds me too much like dragon dogma
@joshuariel8496
@joshuariel8496 2 ай бұрын
Why does everyone hate to fight the actual problem and cause the problem and Fight the actual true enemy together and actually get a satisfactory ending that does not have an ass pulling ending please for 5 years please
@joshuariel8496
@joshuariel8496 2 ай бұрын
@@mrex666productions7 and the wise mens would not be any better plus the angel is from smt 4 dlc and his dictionary is a literally Evil enforcement of Maduk and is Satan not Lucifer
@joshuariel8496
@joshuariel8496 2 ай бұрын
@@aslla31 me point out the system itself is evil so erased the system in entirely completely
@LCardosed92
@LCardosed92 2 ай бұрын
This is the waifu ending. It is the worst possible outcome for the world and humanity but on the other hand you got Yoko simping for you.
@icetweiz
@icetweiz 2 ай бұрын
and the added bonus of wiping the smug grin off of Mastema's face
@joshuariel8496
@joshuariel8496 2 ай бұрын
How did you come to conclusions?
@hyper1832
@hyper1832 2 ай бұрын
@@joshuariel8496read the Bible
@hyper1832
@hyper1832 2 ай бұрын
@@joshuariel8496 I only recommend to read a Bible you talking like this because of that ?
@satopei999
@satopei999 2 ай бұрын
​@@joshuariel8496 bro was told to read the bible and got defensive over it
@bubbletea_
@bubbletea_ Ай бұрын
adam and eve imagery at the end... the ship has sailed 😎
@billyboleson2830
@billyboleson2830 Ай бұрын
Least subtle Adam and Eve symbolism imaginable
@talmosko1
@talmosko1 29 күн бұрын
The snake chilling on the tree being Lilith's was a nice touch.
@xzPuyo_Puyo
@xzPuyo_Puyo 2 ай бұрын
Damn, these boss music tracks are FUCKING HOT FIRE! Especially Tiamat!
@darklordliam
@darklordliam 2 ай бұрын
They did Mastema so much justice, holy-
@niclasneziru1854
@niclasneziru1854 2 ай бұрын
I think I'll go for the Law route, I feel like it makes the most sense for the Nahobino since he's a vessel for both Susano-o and Tsukuyomi plus it lets me fight Tiamat, Tehom and Lucifer And choosing Law creates a nice contrast with the other protagonists since the Demi-fiend is an embodiment of chaos and Flynn reps Neutral
@onetruesavior69
@onetruesavior69 2 ай бұрын
Not just that, but you also respect Tsukuyomi by protecting Tokyo which does not happen in Chaos ending.
@joshuariel8496
@joshuariel8496 2 ай бұрын
​@@onetruesavior69he saves her at least
@Dragon-md4gr
@Dragon-md4gr 2 ай бұрын
Fair enough, but Tehom is really the only character you're not fighting on Chaos. You'd still fight Tiamat and Lucifer in Chaos. (Also Tsukuyomi is Chaos in this game, which is funny because he's normally a Law-aligned Amatsu.)
@niclasneziru1854
@niclasneziru1854 2 ай бұрын
@@Dragon-md4gr Yeah I know it's just that I really want to fight all three, Mastema as the second final boss of Chaos route didn't quite do it for me
@Dragon-md4gr
@Dragon-md4gr 2 ай бұрын
@@niclasneziru1854 Agreed; I'm always happy to beat up Mastema, guy's an ass, but having the crazy never before seen Tehom fought only in Law but Mastema in Chaos is just disappointing.
@IvenHor123
@IvenHor123 2 ай бұрын
Doesn't anyone notice in the Choas end credit looks like Adam and Eve? With the MC as Adam and Yoko as Eve?
@jakealucard1873
@jakealucard1873 2 ай бұрын
Shin megami tensei vengeance is anime Bible confirmed?!?! Nah jk but you right it does resemble adam and eve
@PokeyMeansBusiness
@PokeyMeansBusiness 2 ай бұрын
adam and lilith*
@IvenHor123
@IvenHor123 2 ай бұрын
@@PokeyMeansBusiness tbf, Lilith already exists, so Yoko is just basically chaos version of Eve.
@AzureGhidorah
@AzureGhidorah Ай бұрын
@@PokeyMeansBusiness Naw, Lilith is the serpent sitting on the branch. I think that’s *literally* her serpent from her Qadistu self.
@oscaralbertococanodiaz2135
@oscaralbertococanodiaz2135 Ай бұрын
@@PokeyMeansBusinessit’s Eve. Lilith is the snake shown on that three.
@Nusa9376
@Nusa9376 2 ай бұрын
Destroying to create a new? Sound like Shiva to me.
@BlackfangDragon
@BlackfangDragon 2 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s exactly what Shiva tries to do.
@snailthelostcow63
@snailthelostcow63 2 ай бұрын
they made the whole Shiva superboss requirements and thought, "wait in a goddamn minute... why is this an optional quest again?"
@l30ng62
@l30ng62 2 ай бұрын
What I thought too Makes me wonder if I even had to fight him
@IamJerf
@IamJerf Ай бұрын
​@@l30ng62it's just to make Lucifer stronger in his fight for.........some reason
@AzureGhidorah
@AzureGhidorah Ай бұрын
@@l30ng62 In this scenario you’d fight him because while you’re both doing the same thing, you want to do it your way, so you’re getting rid of the competition. That or there’s the threat that Shiva would survive and reach your new world and then destroy *that* instead.
@DylanBeaudry
@DylanBeaudry 2 ай бұрын
To get this ending, when Yoko says she'll return the world to chaos, select "I'm glad you're okay."
@IamJerf
@IamJerf Ай бұрын
If I'd known that I'd save beforehand in a different file
@narius_jaden215
@narius_jaden215 2 ай бұрын
I wonder when they'll finally give us an SMT where we might face the actual Mandala system xD.
@l30ng62
@l30ng62 2 ай бұрын
It would be like fighting Kagutsuchi in SMT Nocturne I believe
@MILDMONSTER1234
@MILDMONSTER1234 2 ай бұрын
Is that not what nocturne was ?
@narius_jaden215
@narius_jaden215 2 ай бұрын
@@MILDMONSTER1234 Nah man, I get what you mean but like it doesn't really feel like it.
@nibblesnarfer
@nibblesnarfer 2 ай бұрын
Isn't this basically what Shiva wanted?
@SuperDanMan11100
@SuperDanMan11100 2 ай бұрын
Probably. He might have wanted it to start over with nobody around or on his own terms. But yeah, it pretty much seems like this is what he wanted.
@louaidz1929
@louaidz1929 2 ай бұрын
My memory is fuzzy but did Shiva want a world of Choas? I remember him believing that no God/Human has right to decide what the world will look like and instead wanted Brahma (the creator Hindu god) to be the one to great the world after he destroy it, I don't think he specified it would be a world of chaos so it could be a world of Order instead
@zaqareemalcolm
@zaqareemalcolm 2 ай бұрын
@@louaidz1929 His stated intention was just destroying the world and possibly the throne too to prepare it for recreation by Brahma, but he also believed it should be people being shaped and influenced by the world and not the other way around, basically (on paper anyway) it's a rejection of the entire LNC axis
@Minarreal
@Minarreal Ай бұрын
I went into Vengeance mostly blind, so I was surprised when I got to learn that your choices actually have an impact on the ending you get in CoV. And there's no neutral ending in this path if I'm not mistaken? My Nahobino sided with Tao, which probably means that Yoko's quarrels with cars turned sour my opinion of her lol
@goldendon4515
@goldendon4515 2 ай бұрын
Is there an explanation as to how Mastema controls Tiamat? Or simply because Mastema can control demons thanks to his lore and Tiamat fall under this umbrella?
@zaqareemalcolm
@zaqareemalcolm 2 ай бұрын
(spoilers for a NG+ sidequest) It's prolly the fact he's actually an agent of transcendence/Mandala System, and not the (dead) Abrahamic God
@Deathwindgames
@Deathwindgames 2 ай бұрын
@@zaqareemalcolmthen why doesent he help us in law ending
@Michael-bb5dd
@Michael-bb5dd 2 ай бұрын
@@Deathwindgames Because you're perpetuating the Mandala System's design by default in New Law. He doesn't see the need to.
@tomsmith6379
@tomsmith6379 2 ай бұрын
Because Tiamat was made hollow/mindless so something can control it easily. If it wasn't made empty the conciousness would fight the controller
@Dragon-md4gr
@Dragon-md4gr 2 ай бұрын
@@tomsmith6379 Okay but how's he overriding Yoko's control, then?
@epicadventureturtle1363
@epicadventureturtle1363 2 ай бұрын
Based ending
@YellowJacketNinja375
@YellowJacketNinja375 2 ай бұрын
I was railroaded into this ending because I picked the "I don't have any faith in humanity" dialogue options, but I would've chosen Law precisely because I'm so pessimistic.
@giabaolevu1211
@giabaolevu1211 2 ай бұрын
53:45 so they just...leave ? No fight back ?
@AzureGhidorah
@AzureGhidorah Ай бұрын
You were able to kill Tiamat. They probably don’t have the means to realistically challenge you.
@Darkyan97
@Darkyan97 2 ай бұрын
It sucks we don't get to fight True Lucifer in CoV
@dc7981
@dc7981 2 ай бұрын
He has the same dialogue as TN Lucifer too so I dunno why
@Dragon-md4gr
@Dragon-md4gr 2 ай бұрын
I think Lucifer's presence was shoehorned into the New Chaos route to begin with. It makes sense for him to step in and say something during the New Law route, since similar to the vanilla routes you're trying to do something with the throne, but in Chaos you're destroying the world, the throne, the Empyrean, everything. There might not even be a Mandala System and there would definitely not be a throne to fight over.
@Michael-bb5dd
@Michael-bb5dd 2 ай бұрын
@@Dragon-md4gr Thing is though is that, from what I can tell, Yoko and Nahobino are using the Throne to basically make the system self-destruct and abolish itself. Causing destruction rather than creation. Lucifer just seems to be going, "Hey, that's cool and all, but you'll need my knowledge to make this stick otherwise they might just decide to reinstate it." In essence: Mandala System: An old item can be remade into something new. Primordial Chaos: Break shit to make new shit! Burn it with fire!
@ThusSpokeBushmasterZer0.
@ThusSpokeBushmasterZer0. 2 ай бұрын
You can. I fought a level 99 version of True Lucifer on my first playthrough. I think you have to beat Shiva first to have access to that version of the fight.
@stormsand9
@stormsand9 2 ай бұрын
@@ThusSpokeBushmasterZer0. Yep, its just like how the hardest version of Lucifer in base SMTV can only be fought on true neutral.
@MrNrj6490
@MrNrj6490 Ай бұрын
I was wondering what they’d do instead of Tiamat since I got the Order ending. Turns out they just said “fuck it, Mastema has Tiamat now” I still prefer the Order ending and the awesome Order final boss, but this gives all the Chaos fans everything they wanted too.
@mixedbaggamer
@mixedbaggamer 2 ай бұрын
Is it ever explained how Yoko isn't a Nahobino? Because I could have swore right as Tiamat was being summoned Lilith went inside of Yoko which to my understanding has been without a shadow of a doubt the sign of becoming nahobino
@amirgarcia547
@amirgarcia547 2 ай бұрын
She’s not a Nahobino, but a reincarnation goddess like Tao is. But Tao is the goddess of creation while Yoko is the goddess of vengeance.
@mixedbaggamer
@mixedbaggamer 2 ай бұрын
@@amirgarcia547 no I got that but shortly before Tiamat Reawakening it looks like a Lilith goes inside of Yoko
@Fallen_2003
@Fallen_2003 Ай бұрын
@@mixedbaggamerI’m pretty sure that was just done to trigger her reawakening, kinda like Tao had to die to reawaken to her true nature.
@zachvlogs9
@zachvlogs9 2 ай бұрын
In the trophy list I think it said there were 4 endings related to the vengeance side, I wonder how you get them
@MrCrimsonMaster
@MrCrimsonMaster 2 ай бұрын
Supposedly there's a secret boss in vengeance if you have the CoC route completed on ng+
@tomsmith6379
@tomsmith6379 2 ай бұрын
​@@MrCrimsonMasterthe primal satan fight which requires you to play the cov law route
@n1rvanna_chaos
@n1rvanna_chaos 2 ай бұрын
hey, Faz. You think there could be a secret ending relting to the dialogue by satan and dagda about a new world?
@motivationintensifies9558
@motivationintensifies9558 2 ай бұрын
If there was it would have leaked already.
@user-qm7pz7lu2t
@user-qm7pz7lu2t 2 ай бұрын
Said lines imply that they are Dagda and Satan from SMT IV
@mrdouche9172
@mrdouche9172 2 ай бұрын
what's the name of the soundtrack when aogami and MC fuse? it's rad
@renewedit
@renewedit 2 ай бұрын
"My power is yours" from the soundtrack release
@mrdouche9172
@mrdouche9172 2 ай бұрын
@@renewedit thanks bro
@renren47618
@renren47618 2 ай бұрын
SMT was never really that good with alligments, i mean, in most games there is one route that is the best one and the others just suck, but at least even on endings like SMT IV Neutral there was still the "it's a temporary solution" aspect to it, now Smt pretty much ends with perfect utopias or edgy endings, i really don't like it, in fact OG SMT V had great alligments they just lacked the actual characters being good and better presentation Law was pretty reasonable with Dazai/Abdiel and Nahobino becoming the new YHVH Chaos had the whole gods ruiling their own nations True Neutral had the "destroy all demons for the sake of mankind" which was a interesting twist to neutral that balanced it, the issue was that you had to befriend demons to achieve it Vengeance endings boil down to: With Tao, Nahobino becomes God and will guide the people who live in a perfect world where if they have any problem, just ask God to fix your problems With Yoko, you pull a The Withe but where a new world will eventually exist with limitless freedom, and this will eventually end up with a strong demon opressing everyone like in the previous one, making her plan straight up stupid. I heard something about deleted dialogue that would add more nuance to it, but even then, if it's removed from the game then it's not canon and i have no id ea of why they cut it, i just don't like this trend of "Bonds/Anarchy" ending that the new team is going for, but i also don't like the old one, i think that Atlus just sucks at the alligment system when it comes to mainline titles.
@snailthelostcow63
@snailthelostcow63 2 ай бұрын
It seems pretty apparent that atlus wanted to keep mainline's "consistency" SMT is basically what Square Enix to Dragon Quest, it would always be a more broad resolution to alignments, much like how the true evil is always the demon king and the hero goes to defeat him
@azure4622
@azure4622 Ай бұрын
Yeah honestly, these endings are very unsatisfying to me. I love the game but all of the endings just leave something to be desired. While i haven't played IV i do like how it portrayed its endings better. The ending i like best conceptually in V is regular neutral because it talks about humans-despite the difficulty-slowly overcoming the demons. But then that ending is the worst in gameplay becuase lucifer is neutered in it for some reason.
@oscaralbertococanodiaz2135
@oscaralbertococanodiaz2135 Ай бұрын
I saw the new chaos vengeance ending such: begin from scratch. Remember what Yoko ask before entering the last Quaditsu battle? She mentioned a painting and that she preferred to start it from the beginning than try to fix it. So this ending is that same metaphor. An Adam and Eve final. The new true law ending is maintaining everything with the course that suppose to be, without demon interfering.
@manuelramos9904
@manuelramos9904 2 ай бұрын
Apparently there is an additional ending (or endings?) that are done in Godborn mode? Can anyone confirm?
@joshuariel8496
@joshuariel8496 Ай бұрын
@@manuelramos9904 nope
@amirgarcia547
@amirgarcia547 Ай бұрын
The endings are the same. The only difference is fighting a new form for Lucifer.
@szkieleton
@szkieleton 16 күн бұрын
just finished godborn and there's no new lucifer forms either ;[
@Phantosm
@Phantosm 2 ай бұрын
I missed the true natural ending
@onetruesavior69
@onetruesavior69 2 ай бұрын
True Law > True Neutral > True Chaos.
@Zerokin
@Zerokin 2 ай бұрын
Neutral? Shohei was a hypocrite.
@guillermoaltozanosalazar382
@guillermoaltozanosalazar382 2 ай бұрын
Gotta ask somewhere, but... is there a Neutral ending in the Vengance path? Seen only Law and Chaos
@ItsCl1ps
@ItsCl1ps 2 ай бұрын
Nah just new Chaos and Law
@pepperonidrizzle2401
@pepperonidrizzle2401 2 ай бұрын
So like. Yoko says that every world that has been will be destroyed to create a new one, so does that mean we're literally destroying every other universe in the SMT franchise? Or am I taking things too literally? I haven't played the Canon of Vengeance yet I'm still on the Canon of Creation
@TehLightraven
@TehLightraven 2 ай бұрын
You are taking things too literally.
@georgehater8370
@georgehater8370 Ай бұрын
@@TehLightraventhat’s a good thing, overanalyzing can’t really go wrong
@shellman1yt816
@shellman1yt816 2 ай бұрын
Awesome
@kap1618
@kap1618 Ай бұрын
Tao just vanishes from this route. At least you had to fight Yoko in some compacity in Law Route.
@NegativeVitality
@NegativeVitality Ай бұрын
Strange, doesn't this ending kind of betray Aogami in a way? seems like they did all this stuff to stop Tiamat/Qaditsu? Tiamat was created just to carry out Yoko's plan. Aogami "dies" trying to stop said plan/tiamat. Then Aogami comes back, and kills tiamat, who is controlled by Mastema. then proceeds to help carry out Yoko's plan? which for Aogami is basically... "yeah I died trying to STOP this thing, now I'm going to come back to life and kill it, then proceed to carry out it's purpose which I previously died trying to stop, making everything that's happened thus far pretty redundant, I basically died for nothing since I'm just gonna help make it happen anyway." like, okay. Like yeah we did all this to stop those 4 prostitutes just to carry out their will in the end at the last second anyway, just went through a bunch of crap for no reason.
@NegativeVitality
@NegativeVitality Ай бұрын
Also seems weird for Tsukuyomi too, I don't think he'd want tokyo and everything to be destroyed at all, so it's strange he also just goes with it and also gives his life for Yoko.
@Minarreal
@Minarreal Ай бұрын
Tsukuyomi specifically states that he will follow whatever path the MC chooses since his Knowledge is gone. Same with Aogami.
@NegativeVitality
@NegativeVitality Ай бұрын
@@Minarreal still a lil crazy to me but that makes wayyy more sense
@katobytes
@katobytes Ай бұрын
Yes. It feels kind of dumb
@DarkAdonisVyers
@DarkAdonisVyers 21 күн бұрын
@@katobytes Dude, in true neutral, Aogami and _all other demons_ basically work to their own erasure. That's why I refuse to do true neutral out of principle. I would rather have this true chaos ending.
@DylanBeaudry
@DylanBeaudry 2 ай бұрын
According to the wiki, you destroy the ENTIRE Megami Tensei multiverse? What? I though you were just destroying SMT V's, and only this branch no less. EDIT: the wiki is wrong. Thank goodness.
@quanwashington
@quanwashington 2 ай бұрын
Considering the game itself references your game cycles as different timelines multiple times, the wiki is wrong.
@KatelynS0209
@KatelynS0209 2 ай бұрын
The wiki is wrong which is pretty common
@ocelot-sensei4384
@ocelot-sensei4384 2 ай бұрын
Both endings felt like the outcome is rigged by Mastema and the Mandala System either way. That's some next level existential crisis. 😂
@eternalpunishment3922
@eternalpunishment3922 Ай бұрын
you thought there was a good ending but truth is, the game was rigged from the start
@DarkAdonisVyers
@DarkAdonisVyers 21 күн бұрын
Nah, true chaos and regular normal are the only 2 endings where the powers that be, Mastema and Goko, have mental breakdowns.
@teddysaliwa5770
@teddysaliwa5770 2 ай бұрын
This is what Shiva wanted to do🗿
@haivu2631
@haivu2631 2 ай бұрын
1:07:49 one hit! Wasted!
@MILDMONSTER1234
@MILDMONSTER1234 2 ай бұрын
Yoko and the MC dating like she didn’t just put him and aogami through a bunch of crap … that’s a toxic relationship there
@DoomResetR
@DoomResetR 2 ай бұрын
the other ending also implies they're dating in that new world created by Tao (the new law ending).
@garryrptr
@garryrptr 2 ай бұрын
That's chaos for you. What else did you expect?
@azure4622
@azure4622 Ай бұрын
Got law ending just now and while i don't mind tao, seeing as i get to kill the salty bastard mastema I'm doing chaos next and exclusively (and honestly in wanted to do chaos but I didn't expect having hope for humanity meant i was going to being granting everyones wishes)
@rakatrian8510
@rakatrian8510 2 ай бұрын
i see no reason why mastema can control tiamat in a chaos route
@DarkAdonisVyers
@DarkAdonisVyers 21 күн бұрын
He always could, but he's just an asshole, so he chooses not to in law.
@unknown97428
@unknown97428 Ай бұрын
How do you start the chaos path?
@nr2676
@nr2676 Ай бұрын
Pick Yoko answers in conversations (usually it's second dialogue option) + do side quests and help Chaos demons, like Leanan Sidhe, Lilim, Anansi, Kudlak, Saturnus.
@skullkid2689
@skullkid2689 Ай бұрын
How do you get the chaos ending?
@KevX36
@KevX36 Ай бұрын
I gotta say, it feels like sense there is no nutral ending they really favored law, especially with how tihmat being taken over makes very little sense and you have the same final bosses only with this hunch backed angel intead of an embodyment of the void
@DarkAdonisVyers
@DarkAdonisVyers 21 күн бұрын
Canon of Creation already gives you 2 neutral endings. This is just to make 2 endings each for all alignments.
@jackmenechino5837
@jackmenechino5837 2 ай бұрын
So how do we get to choose the Law ending? What dialogue prompts do I have to pick?
@nr2676
@nr2676 2 ай бұрын
- pick always 1st pick in dialogues between Tao and Yoko (agree with Tao) - do side quests and help Law demons like Apsaras, Principality, Onyankopon, Kresnik, Demeter. - don't help Chaos demons in side quests like Lean Sydhe, Lilim, Anansi, Kudlak, Saturnus. - in last dialog between Nahobino and Yoko, pick ,,Yes'' , not ,,That's right''.
@TitaRussellTrails
@TitaRussellTrails Ай бұрын
I feel like they should’ve axed the Lucifer fight and had the final battle be against Tao and or Goko for the chaos route.
@amirgarcia547
@amirgarcia547 Ай бұрын
Agreed, it doesn’t make sense that you never fight them when you’re basically opposing their ideals. But I guess they don’t wanna break the tradition of having Lucifer be the final boss for every SMT game.
@TitaRussellTrails
@TitaRussellTrails Ай бұрын
@@amirgarcia547 I mean he wasn't the final boss for SMT1, or SMT2, or 4 Apocalypse
@billyboleson2830
@billyboleson2830 Ай бұрын
@@TitaRussellTrails Luci is only there cause it’s basically impossible for him to be written out of the plot by this point. He’s still the guy in control that needs to be taken care of to get the endign
@georgehater8370
@georgehater8370 Ай бұрын
@@TitaRussellTrailsIn smt 4 he was though, in neutral he was the final fight It was betrayal exclusive but it’s the canon ending soooo
@AL-np1im
@AL-np1im 2 ай бұрын
If I choose this ending Will I get the 4 Qadistu or does it no matter which ending
@IvenHor123
@IvenHor123 2 ай бұрын
You don't need to finish the game. You'll get them during the story after you fight the 4 of them and before the MC get his second form no matter which route you take.
@IamJerf
@IamJerf Ай бұрын
You get them right as you get the new Nahobino form with Tsukuyomi in the middle of the story no matter what route you're in since it chooses for you what route you enter
@Forteoverload
@Forteoverload 2 ай бұрын
Dazai out here giving off DIO vibes and shit
@MinhLe19303
@MinhLe19303 Ай бұрын
Isn't this basically True Demon Ending?
@nr2676
@nr2676 Ай бұрын
It's more like White Ending, but without nihilism
@MinhLe19303
@MinhLe19303 Ай бұрын
@@nr2676 It's kinda is though, since this route is under the belief that people are flawed and the world is broken.
@speedm222
@speedm222 2 ай бұрын
this has to be one of the worst endings in the franchise. because no-one ever exploited unrestricted freedom to eventually oppress others before… a world like that would definitely not be a repetition of the others beforehand because we sure know humanity will NEVER consistently fvck themselves over by clamoring for an idol to excuse their malice… but at least you scored a hot emo gf so that’s that :P ps; tao’s ending is not much better, it’s maruki all over again. though at least it has spectacle with the tehom fight instead of just settling for mr. trustworthy over here. i wonder which side atlus wanted you to choose :-)
@MILDMONSTER1234
@MILDMONSTER1234 2 ай бұрын
Taos ending has the inverse problem, it’s basically Maruki yes but with none do the downsides so there’s literally no reason I can imagine anyone picking this over that one. The game for some reason thinks Yoko has a good argument whcuh is just absurd it’s like the game forgot to develop her side in favor of Taos. People gave 4a and SJR crap for the bonds/new law and chaos endings for being too good but VV law doesn’t even feel like a smt ending more like something out of Persona which I think is even funnier considering persona reload came out earlier this year and that games ending feels more like smt There’s actually cut dialogue for both endings that would have made them better and I have ask why they were removed
@Dragon-md4gr
@Dragon-md4gr 2 ай бұрын
@@MILDMONSTER1234 Where can we read the cut dialogue? Sounds like it could be interesting
@renren47618
@renren47618 2 ай бұрын
​@@MILDMONSTER1234I made in a joke in another video about how P5/P5R endings are way more SMT than the last two mainline titles In P5 Joker summons Gnostic Satan to Shoot Gnostic God in the face to be free of his control, but you can also accept Yadabaoth's world In P5R Maruki is essentially your average SMT Law but with a Matrix aspect and a sympathetic villain, if you wish to refuse the Utopia where everyone is happy, Joker jumps on Adam Kadmon and shoots Maruki in the face himself, then he fist fights against him. Meanwhile: SMT IV Apocalypse: You have two endings, in one of them you kill all your friends and become God while being the puppet of a demon, in the other you use the power of friendship to defeat God and create a happy perfect world between humans and demons. SMT V Vengeance: You have an ending where you just delete everything and expects that the next world will not be the same as the previous one when it obviously will and in the other you have Aogami + Nahobino power up scene which is one of the most anime scenes i've seen in Megaten and an ending where you create a perfect world where everyone is happy since it's not Bruce The Almighty like initially thought, before the final battle Tao tells Nahobino that the God of this new world would guide his people and i doubt that Nahobino/Tao would accept wishes that would be destructive. In the end I think that Persona now has more nuance to its endings and more "SMT themes" than SMT itself where it basically ends with you creating a happy perfect world at the end.
@twohooks3533
@twohooks3533 2 ай бұрын
So like the sith in star wars chaos is pretty much the ancap to fascist pipeline. Or if I'm being charitable to yoko only they're an ancom arguing with a leninist that is tao and it's not too far fetched because law is a Frankenstein ideology of what Japanese boomers feared taking over their country, namely communism, abrahamic faiths and the UN.
@louaidz1929
@louaidz1929 2 ай бұрын
​​@@renren47618Hot take : I disagree with labeling Maruki as a "Law Villain", I believe he is a very unique take on "Chaos Villain" Maruki acknowledged that life is hard,unfair and full suffering and he believes that simply accepting that is what society demands you to do and basically submitting to its laws, Maruki doesn't like that and believes that NO you shouldn't accept suffering and unfairness just because society tells you so, he believes that everyone should get happiness no matter the cost, that's why he uses his godly power to grant people "happiness" even if he does morally wrong things This Maruki form of rebellion What supports this more is that his two personas are "Chaos Gods", Azathoth is basically primordial chaos in Lovecraft mythos and Adam Kadmon is the god who shapes "primordial chaos" into our current world But yeah it's still crazy that Persona gave us a better chaos rep than mainline smt ngl
@xuanlutran4119
@xuanlutran4119 Ай бұрын
just let Yoko and Tao together and MC with Aogami :| we will have true end ( in my he"ll" art)
@pyxelpub8251
@pyxelpub8251 2 ай бұрын
Anyone know where we could find the choices to get Yoko's ending? Got the Law ending and don't want to risk getting it again on my second run
@DoomResetR
@DoomResetR 2 ай бұрын
You have to agree with her in most dialogue with her there's also a "compass" that goes counterclockwise which means you are getting "points" for the chaos ending with enough "points" you get to choose but you have to be "glad to see her" again when she stops you from doing Tao's biding.
@azure4622
@azure4622 Ай бұрын
​@@DoomResetR There's a compass? Where?
@amirgarcia547
@amirgarcia547 Ай бұрын
@@azure4622It’s your icon in the Tokyo map. It moves clockwise when you’re law aligned, counterclockwise when you’re chaos and neutral when you’re not spinning at all. There’s no neutral ending in CoV, but if you’re neutral by the end of the game you get to pick either option.
@azure4622
@azure4622 Ай бұрын
@@amirgarcia547 yeah, ending up googling it right after asking and the tested it while playing, somehow i never noticed on my original playthroughs of base 5
@charlesrd1986
@charlesrd1986 Ай бұрын
how can i get tao's ending? i hate yoko and still giving me the samen ending
@georgehater8370
@georgehater8370 Ай бұрын
Don’t agree with chaos then, the game tracks all your choices you makes and tally’s everything together and gives you the ending you have the most tally’s for If you agree with law more or order then you will get Taos ending
@loop3733
@loop3733 2 ай бұрын
W
@Parth1713
@Parth1713 2 ай бұрын
Law ending is better.
@leeku2054
@leeku2054 2 ай бұрын
nb4nb ending
@user-nn2il9io7r
@user-nn2il9io7r 2 ай бұрын
mastema is too weak :( (like SJ)
@ben_sisko2149
@ben_sisko2149 2 ай бұрын
Mastema's voice is way creepier in Japanese. He just sound plain in English.
@emeros8631
@emeros8631 2 ай бұрын
What does it mean ?! It's so frustratingly vague ! How is that different from the world where everyone's wish gets fulfill ? What even will be born if there's no cradle of creation ?! It's just as bullshit as the conon of creation endings
@Dragon-md4gr
@Dragon-md4gr 2 ай бұрын
There was cut content that explained something one might figure on their own about Tao's ending; that even if it'd be a happy world, fulfilling everybody's wishes would inherently give way to contradictions and conflict. It essentially said "To realize one dream is to deny another", which you can still kinda reason with the canonical ending (keep in mind Tao's narration is biased). Whereas Yoko's ending basically returns the world to primordial chaos to be reborn as it was before the advent of Marduk, i.e a world where humankind has no need or desire to oppress each other or form hierarchy and are thus free.
@RpgBlasterRpg
@RpgBlasterRpg 2 ай бұрын
Worst Rerelease girl, Alex was better
@CereDulce37
@CereDulce37 Ай бұрын
Bye she ate Yall just don't get it. You smt ancient oldgen mfs are being left behind while yall whine about the new endings
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