Shipping a bus goes wrong

[@icenijohn2]

When I had my bus's 6V92 completely rebuilt I requested a Landoll, and what's more one whose driver is familiar with buses. It took 30 minutes to load it, and less time than that to unload it, with no damage at all. Cheap it wasn't, but quality work never is.

[@gregorystell6858]

What's the old saying if you want it done right prepare to pay for the most.

[@ianmaciver4004]

exactly, a landoll is the right type of trailer for transporting coaches, thats a discrace the way they loaded that bus

[@oldrustycars]

Landoll trailers are very expensive, they are also pretty heavy. But in cases like this it's exactly what you need. I've used one, they have a 6 degree loading angle with the travelling axles.

[@J.R.in_WV]

Maybe I’m wrong but with some of the taller coaches (MCI are 11’6”, not including A/C’s on the roof) I would think a long enough 3 axle landoll to transport a 40 foot coach would put the overall height over 13’6” wouldn’t it? I mean I know they’re low but I’ve never seen a landoll with a deck height under 36”, you have to get a lowboy to get something that low.

[@The_Smith]

it's in the right place now Scott, looking forward to following it's progress.

[@NoName-zn1sb]

its progress

[@throttlebottle5906]

the driver was sure kicking himself in the teeth right from the start, whishing he'd have never taken on the job.

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

Plus he got a parking ticket on the way here trying to get some rest.

[@brentlance2379]

​@@BusGreaseMonkey.. ima assume he got ticket in Va or Ga.. those two staTes r the worst about parking. I got a ticket in Va one time.

[@isickofit]

My first thought..

[@davidjones332]

He spent so much time on his knees I thought he was praying for inspiration....or maybe "Please God, let this all be a bad dream".

[@TsunauticusIV]

@@brentlance2379Va is the holest of holes 🕳️. Va is a special place filled with special people.

[@ChiefStones]

I didn't know Doc Brown was driving a semi now. Last time i saw him he was driving a flying train.

[@etmccaus]

I thought it was Edgar Winter...

[@carlv8168]

@@etmccaus Or even Moses! LOL!

[@kcindc5539]

Great Scott!!

[@Mercmad]

@@carlv8168 Methuselah ...

[@shawnbeckmann1847]

You can just tell that him and deodorant are complete strangers...

[@Torsee]

That driver had no business taking that load. The wooden crib work would have side lined him if he had been inspected by the law! Wicked sketchy! Watch out with this bus owner. Too cheap shipping it, may lead to non payment of services. Great video!

[@richardrich2710]

My dad got a Grayhound 1958 PD4104 with a 6-71 in 1972 from Grayhound minus wheels and tires for 9500.00. Picked it up in Louisville KY and drove it back to Dearborn MI. I was 11 at the time and me and my dad spent the next couple years converting it. Great memories and I learned a tone helping him. Added two roof AC units, Kohler 6500 watt 4 cylinder in the small bay behind the driver plus all the other stuff on the inside to make it a true motorhome. Took our first trip at the 6 month mark with just a pair of fold down seats and table (ones used to make a bed with the table removed) in the front and three fold down couches in the back with a toilet in the middle surround by a curtain on a rope. Went to NJ on the trip and sill have pictures of each person on the trip sitting on the toilet LOL... That was the days. Would get 9 to 9.5 MPG and with 140 gallon tank could go from Detroit to FL on one fill-up. Would hate to pay to fill it up with todays prices :(. Good to see another 4104 being fixed up.

[@quietbrianquiet]

Greyhound or was there a knock off Grayhound made also?

[@richardrich2710]

@@quietbrianquiet Greyhound.... LOL read my post three times and did not notice the spelling error before I posted it.

[@sterlingstreamliner]

No doubt many of those who follow your excellent YT channel were shaking their head at this situation. Transporting this bus by tractor-trailer from VA to TN is approx. 750 miles. As you know, Landoll is an industry leader in ground loading trailers. There are other similar type makes as well. 5 to 60 tons. Deck lengths up to 53 ft. I've had countless buses moved over the years. A typical load / unload on to, off of a Landoll-type ground loading trailer is approx. 15 mins. Winch on, winch off. Taking 7 hrs, using 2 heavy lift recovery cranes is nuts. As reported, the bus owner here paid $3,000. for the cranes to load. I pay $0.00 for the roll on, roll off, load, offload. In addition, the bus owner paid $4,000. for the trucking, for a total of $7,000. Bottom line -- hire the right truck-trailer. The cost to transport this bus should have been around $3,000. all in. Not $7,000. As for the bus, I don't see it -- but that's another story. Thanks for showing us this. Keep up the excellent work Scott! What you do is special and important.

[@bowslap]

I’m a trucker myself, and have experience in oversized/heavy haul….yes, a Landoll tilt-bed trailer would’ve been preferable but this RGN isn’t necessarily “wrong”. The problem was in how it was loaded onto the trailer…and that’s on whoever was directing traffic in terms of how it was done. Long story short, you get what you pay for….

[@JD-zm4eh]

Another classic to save. I love those old buses, I remember traveling on the Greyhound and the Continental buses back in the 70's and 80's. Many well wishes good people.

[@FransvandenBergeMuziekschuur]

These busses are getting quite rare. Once it fires up again and rides and stops it is quite a valuable bus. Excited to see it being revived.

[@flyingfreerv8007]

Bill for the tow trucks will be more than the bus cost

[@gregorystell6858]

If it's like some other companies I've dealt with the cost just to start their trucks and show up can range from 250 close to 500 dollars and that's without doing any work.

[@johnclamshellsp1969]

​@@gregorystell6858Here in 60107 is definitely $500 to just come out.

[@MadSceintist]

@@gregorystell6858 Problem here is, between the hauler and those wreckers, they should be paying for the shear stupidity and damage

[@laurendestito6808]

Why worry about getting it off now? The damage is already done!

[@johnclamshellsp1969]

They have $8000+ into a bus that cost probably $10,000, needs $10,000 in just mechanical work, and finally $60,000 to convert or remodel. So $88,000 not so bad for a bus class RV, but you need good bones to start with.

[@digger1825]

That's the exact trailer you need just longer and they only know what the owner tells them, but there is extra wraps for those lowboy trailers we used them to haul are Pavers. Love the videos 😁

[@Wingnut353]

If you have a 40ft bus... you only have another 13 ft of possible trailer length in most states which as you can see here is occupied by tires. So yeah probably not possible. Which is why you need a trailer with a movable axle (basically a trailer rollback). The other type that would work probably is the non lowboy version of this but you'd have potential bridge clearance issues.

[@robertquast9684]

You can get longer extendable trailers but then you are into oversized loads which cost more but not as much as 2 heavy wreckers

[@digger1825]

@cusbrar1 oh, you must be a expert in hauling equipment. Yes there are longer lowboy trails and yes you can drive up on the rear tires and they have CDL now so that it doesn't matter what state you are in the laws are the same on the interstates and if you know the state that you are delivering to you check to see what permits you need.. But you probably knew that already

[@fatbackjacob5738]

Always a great day when a new video comes out.

[@fantomfotog]

THATS GOING TO BE ONE HECK OF A PROJECT! GOOD LUCK!

[@mfc4591]

Braver than I fixing that one, all the best with the project.

[@mischef18]

Wow what a mission just to get it to you bro, I bet the drive had a sigh of relief when it was off his trailer. Nice he made sure it got to where you wanted it to too. Safe travels. Ken.

[@kevinhamling1963]

It will be interesting to hear the history of this bus. It must mean something special to the owners having spend so much on transport fees. ✌️Peace.

[@tomscorner3656]

Oh my what a job you have in front of you Scott. The bus is in good hands now.

[@tedquaker954]

Love the old Busses....good luck with this one.

[@nigelbeiley6668]

Love this type of bus. I’m glad it’s with you, it arrive not working but leaves in time in working order. Looking at this bus, I feel that this going to need a lot work to get it running! Deep pockets !😊

[@sethleventhal2378]

might have gone better with a landoll trailer

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

For sure

[@raygunsforronnie847]

Landoll - made in Kansas, of all places.

[@Foxtrot619]

A landoll is 3 feet high how tall is the bus

[@parker1ray]

We went from a 375' long gravel driveway like yours on 3 acres to a driveway that is 25' and wide enough for 3 cars with a carport. Thank God!

[@JayBando213]

Nice bus but definitely some work 2 get it there, but yall killed it unloading it... looked way better than the loading

[@Draxindustries1]

A real shame about the damage but im sure you guys will fix it. Ref the bill for two trucks, the way i see it its the towing companies fault that they needed two trucks in the first place. They then damaged your bus. I wiuld have paid for one truck minus the damage caused. All the best to you from the UK❤.

[@arcanewyrm6295]

As an operator of light-duty and medium-duty tow trucks in the US, I can attest that damages caused by the tow truck operator are covered by the tow company's insurance - though most will pay directly to avoid the claim being filed, and then deduct it from the operator's pay, if they don't fire him for it. I've got to assume that it works much the same way in heavy-duty towing.

[@chickengnawer]

Wow~I didn't Know I could Hold My Breath so Long...! 😲

[@Imugi007]

You should totally hit up Taylor Ray, he's a KZbin drifter that just bought a vintage car hauler/rv bus and is a bit worried about having something go wrong on a trip because he recently bought a almost brand new f-350 to haul his previous trailer and it broke down on him during a trip. So he bought the bus, but in the comments was saying he was worried about having to work on it if something went wrong. I figured you would be the best person to put his mind at ease and maybe give him a few tips! Would be a sick collab.

[@nproject_org]

Yes, unfortunate things did happen during transport, but... what a very cool bus! Wow!

[@Sherlock067]

Hope you can locate all you need to get the bus going again. 👍

[@Adrian-Pryke]

I’m sure you will give it the care it deserves now it’s in the right place to be sorted 👍 And after all the problems he had, at least the driver didn’t just drop it and run and helped guide it into its temporary home whilst you make a start on it

[@DLTJR1959]

Probably a Quartet Gospel Singing Group back in the day with the name "Four in Christ". Would love to know the history of the old bus.

[@mistero4]

What a good bloke the truckie was to help you get it into place. Definitely the wrong trailer for the job though!

[@jteddy11]

Wow, that bus appears pretty clapped out, not sure it is worth the dollar amount just for the tow. That looks like one hell of a big project, for such a beat up bus.

[@houseofshootsllc]

They should junk that bus! Not worth the time and money

[@rovhalgrencparselstedt8343]

You would think that at first glance, until you realize how few of these are left and how sought after they are becoming. There are even vehicle brands out there that are so rare that even a rusted away wreck with almost nothing but a rusted out rear axle left is HIGHLY worth the millions/trillions of dollars a restorastion would cost. Just look at VW beetles/buses from the 50's-60's and willys jeeps, here in sweden ppl want almost as much for those in rusted out sat in a field for 50 years condition as for a brand new luxuary car.

[@digitalrailroader]

@@DontDrinkTheFlavorAid a 2 Stroke detroit won't leave you stranded like a modern computer controlled diesel will, ESPECIALLY ones 2007 and newer that are strangled by emissions where ONE sensor SLIGHTLY out of spec will COMPLETELY Shut you down!

[@GNX157]

Yea it might be rare but still not only is it junk but damaged now as well. Bets on whether it ever leaves under its own power?

[@marvinjgerald6007]

@@GNX157 of course it’ll run under its own power, and it’s obvious you don’t know what Bus Grease Monkey is capable of and has brought back to life.

[@19MarcoPolo71]

So, they moved the Smokey Mountains along with the bus? I can’t wait to see the finished product!👍🏻👍🏻

[@Charger1908]

Man that’s the most hillbilly’d bus transport I’ve ever seen. I’d be concerned about their offspring. You were right it was the wrong trailer. Sheesh! No offense intended.

[@davidcollver6155]

This is usually the lowest bid and ends up costing triple or quadruple the original bid. People will never learn how to choose the correct bid. Number one you never accept the lowest bid. In doing that you're putting better people out of work.

[@danh2134]

@@davidcollver6155 you make no sense

[@davidcollver6155]

@@danh2134 better people put in their bid stick to their bid. Generally foresee problems ahead and bid in anything to cover those charges already priced in. Better people don't f*** you over. That clear enough for you.

[@baldyslapnut.]

​@@danh2134makes perfect sense to me. Buy cheap, buy twice.

[@TheFatesLieutenant]

@@davidcollver6155 Amen! I've seen it happen too many times, and when you try to explain and steer them away, they don't want to hear it, and then they cry when all is said and done.

[@tigerspook1]

The old girl certainly is in a bad way, but she's in the bus hospital now and if anyone can bring her back you & your team can Scott..xx

[@creativeloafer9792]

Dang, that sucks (towing bill and issues) but screw it, the ole girl made it to the shop safe and sound! The body does look nice and looks to have most of its glass intact. What a cool project!

[@joshuacatron2]

Oh boy, so 3 trucks to tow in total? What a project. Have fun fellows.

[@colday74]

Nice to see the truck driver channelling Kris Kristofferson there.

[@johnny22single99]

ABSOLUTELY-----> AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!. 🙂

[@kurthuck2630]

I bet that truck driver was happy to get that bus off his trailer!😆

[@CoolBlue87GT]

Wow, that's going to be a huge project. Good luck.

[@SalisburySnake]

I remember looking at a really nice fully functional RV converted 4014 for $10,000. I guess those days are long gone. I like the tachograph on the dash. Looks like it's straight from bus service, aside from the band name up top.

[@marinablueGS]

I'll bet the owner wishes he had called Scott for towing advice first. That's a lot of money just to get it there, and fixing the towing damage will cost even more. I sincerely hope the owner is committed to repairing the bus and has the money to do it. I used to drive a 4104 for a college choir and have a lot of memories made looking through that big windshield.

[@TimothyMichaels]

Lots of work, looking forward to the follow up.

[@harryvanderzanden7644]

Just moved a Hino 12t. The rear wheels had seized and we were looking at a crane situation like this. Glad I could disconnect brakes and dislocated the shoes through the backing plate without having to remove wheels. All up took 5hours to get to me with a bull Moose at each end. Expensive but worth it by the looks.

[@jaymiller2213]

For the money spent I’d have put on 4 tires on the back and have the truck tow it on the rears

[@n4pwx]

That was an interesting video. Thanks so much.

[@mattc.310]

Wow, that was quite the load job. And infested too. Needed a little more experience on the tow crew. Nice job getting it unloaded. That driver look "rode hard and put away wet". Bummer about the ticket just trying to get some sleep. It's in a good place now. Let the repairs commence.

[@bill8582]

I hope and pray that I never need a tow. At least it's at the right place now, I know you guys will get done, what needs to get done, and who knows, this may turn out to be one heck of a bus, when the owners get done with it. Good luck to all 😎

[@InconvenienceToday]

Phew. We had our 1965 Flxible moved and glad ours went better than this. Though, we ended up needing to use a bulldozer to get ours all the way to our property! I love these old rides.

[@dannymitchum5]

they got it their. you need some help.lots of work you got this.

[@davidowen888]

Oh boy , gotta love that bus to go through all that ☮️

[@Phiyedough]

I'm from Europe and those US tractor units look so long compared to our cab-over type. They must be quite a handful on rural tracks and twisty roads.

[@bigteddy66]

That and the 1/4 mile between the cab and 5th wheel.

[@etmccaus]

I cannot wait to see the repair bill on this one. Sincerely hoping there won't be a mechanic's lien in its future...

[@geoffroberts4267]

Cash with inquiry on this one!!

[@mvol5973]

Beautiful project bus! I'm still looking for one

[@donw3912]

Now thats a project...it's good the driver helped you guys get it moved into a decent spot for the time being. It looks rough now but it will look better and perform great when you guys are done with it. It's been a long time since it has been worked on...HOPEFULLY the fasteners don't put up too much of a fight. I can't wait to see this project done...the before and after are gonna be epic.

[@normmcrae1140]

You can BET that if it's a PAIN in the A$$ to Load - it's going to be JUST AS BAD trying to UNLOAD! DEFINITELY the WRONG trailer! It looks like that bus is going to turn into a Long-Term Make-Work project........

[@KingTX2K]

0:14 semi style tow truck which is called a wrecker U ment brother!

[@ColdSteelCharger]

Whomever called it as VA appears to be correct. The inspection sticker mounted to the center of the windshield is the old format and location for VA. Only recently has VA gone to the lower left corner like most states. And we still have ANNUAL safety inspections.

[@claytonbrown7100]

And the yellow historic Virginia plate on the back.

[@VanaConn]

The thing bus owner nightmares are made of. My objective is to spend the money on my bus to maintain it so it never needs a tow.

[@billsmith5166]

Hmm. They have so much in it now that it's gonna be hard to NOT fix it. I feel bad for them.

[@doesthisfacemakemelooklike535]

yep and the best theyu can do is screw the driver...its sad for sure... but hey who knows maybe these folks have lots and lots and lots of money for this bus...stranger things have happened ...makes me wonder whats the story on it...

[@dont-want-no-wrench]

well, that was unpleasant to watch. they got it to the right guys though.

[@tallpaul9475]

My dad bought a running '68 GMC Silverside bus for $4500. I couldn't imagine paying $3K for just towing and have all that damage done. That is unfortunate.

[@silasmarner7586]

It's NOT unfortunatel. It's NEGLIGENT. That is all. NOBODY IN THE WHOLE CHAIN IS PAYING ANY ATTENTION AT ALL.

[@kathrynw3]

​@@silasmarner7586Not so much paying attention as just don't give a crap, as long as they get that money ... sad times.

[@FUCK_________googIe]

@@kathrynw3 The only idiot in this situation is the owner. he/she was present while the bus was being loaded. They OK'd everything

[@seagullsbtn]

Odds are high that the owner will abandon what is now a piece of junk in your yard. If it didn’t drive in…. You shouldn’t take it in.

[@bookooc5605]

Love this, but all I thought about watching this is how the truck driver's dog was doing.

[@BusGreaseMonkey]

Truck was running with the air conditioning running. He was way more comfortable than we were.

[@steamfan7147]

Is this the start of one of those "We bought the cheapest Bus on Facebook" videos?

[@SuperApplefan1]

always a good video!

[@ehsnils]

I first wondered what was the problem loading on a RGN (Removable GooseNeck) trailer, but when you stated that the bus was doglegging I understood that it was a true headache. The bus was a bit long for that trailer, but it looks like it was handled well.

[@joshuacatron2]

The pin up girl is suiting, it appears her ars is on fire. 😂

[@oakridgestars]

That tractor makes a good tow truck.

[@crushingvanessa3277]

Still a lot better than that reality show of those mover guys.

[@jimjoe9945]

No sure what you're feeding olive oil but that tractors looking good.

[@adamfrbs9259]

If anyone wants old buses like this, I've seen roughly 45 of them sitting on Hwy 52 between Rochester and Mpls MN.

[@douglasrizzo9210]

Two HD tow trucks, and a flat bed service, the owner must be $10k into it before you turn a wrench. Ouch.

[@matts4290]

Someone must really love that bus if they spent all that money to get it to you.

[@Wayoutthere]

Oh dear what a clusterf, must be so bad for the owners.

[@DonRRicks]

Ahh, just like the “good old days” when you and Kelly would go to different places to take on the hopeless. Well, not just like because Lenny isn’t in the scenes. Sort of just like the good old days

[@thatdave86]

So Scott ,if you were tasked to load and move these buses,how would you do it ? Longer trailers, extension type low bed (specialist) Ideally it should or could be picked up using the wheels and obviously the spreader bars of the Rotator truck or crane ,Ron Platt from midwestern towing has lifted buses up by the wheels . Obviously there maybe more buses coming to you this way ,I would open up your gates and entrance so the trucks have more room to manoeuvre. Be nice if they could back in ,if the gates were twice the width that they are now .and have you considered an old truck to tow these buses up the hill ?or bulldozer with a winch ?

[@ToomasTelling]

Ron would be the guy i would hire to move buses because he treats other peoples cars,trucks and buses with respect

[@siaripop7]

Someone must love that bus to spend that kind of money and more to get it running again!

[@dennybrenke2397]

Nice Bus.

[@j6sj7]

Nice tractor work, unloading. The driver looked like quite a character. Wonder if he was a Hatfield or a McCoy?

[@phillipdean9879]

Well I can say he’s definitely brought it to the right place! 🇦🇺🍺🍺

[@BlackBuzzzard]

It isnt just the purchase price of an old worn out bus that one pays. Non operating bus must ALSO be relocated to a willing and capable repair facility for additional cost. I'm sure the buyers knew this when getting into it.

[@jace1911]

Must have shipped on Uship. Cheapest bidder wins

[@paulwatson1507]

The old bus hobby can sure get getexpansive.

[@dcallan812]

Shame about all the extra damage. I guess the cost falls under the bus owner or the transport crew.👍👍

[@laudennn]

guy who dropped it off looks like he is still mad at bud light

[@teddekkerfan92]

That bus should have gone on either a stretch rgn or a Kalyn Siebert low step deck/oil field trailer (that are specifically made to transport coaches and buses)

[@Doitgood52]

Looking through that bus screen made me want to clean my computer screen 😂

[@ltdees2362]

...somebody has more money than brains...

[@gtm624]

Wow. That’s a dang shame. They definitely shouldn’t have used that trailer. Not a single person stopped and said this isn’t going to work. What a shame.

[@kevinkline3938]

It did work

[@richardcline1337]

Sounds like that shipper took lessons from UPS on how to destroy things!

[@knoester7714]

Good job unloading the bus

[@z06rcr]

Very very cool bus…. Tough trip, but at least it’s in the right place now. Let’s just hope they didn’t blow their budget on towing and can fund the resurrection.

[@Dancing_Alone_wRentals]

The curse of the large toys is the cost of transporting them. I wish the people involved would have been more knowledgeable, it would of kept prices lower and damages to a minimum.

[@jamiesuejeffery]

That apparently is the correct trailer type, but simply the incorrect size.

[@MadSceintist]

A lowboy, 2 tow trucks, one being a heavy boom crane took 7 hrs to load. There's so many crimes in that. I would have had it loaded in under 2 hrs without a tow truck.

[@donmoore7785]

When you have a larger tractor, you can get into larger sticky situations!

[@4G63Tpower]

That’s crazy towing service cost more than the bus is worth!

[@brentlance2379]

I have hauled several on a lowboy. No issues. Last one i did cost me $500 for tow truck at that time. It was boom boom. 20 to 30 minutes.it was on the trailer. Granted for this one.. idk how much the rear was binding up. Giving them issues. Or how they were trying to load it. Im betting super short steep step the rear had to climb to gst ass up was part of issue. When i did mine i had 10ft boards for ramps. Small incline that stepped up to height i needed.