Shnootz - Reaction Video (Cocteau Twins - Shallow then Halo)

[@mattsnider2667]

Yo! Not sure why this video is seemingly missing the first couple seconds but somehow that happened. Still, Lucca is on camera. 😸

[@danielet612]

adoro ciaoooo!

[@thesoundlikechameleons2082]

One of the best songs on the album! eerie and haunting with that added echo, sounds like she is singing in a church ⛪️ all alone. - C.

[@MarkSatchwillArt]

I can't wait to see what you make of some of the titles as you progress! Vocally she has barely got started in realising what she can do. We're still in the dark depths, it all sounds like pagan ritual and magic, the shallow earth and the halo of the sky and stars, talk of wombs and rich soil, fertile, the earth.

[@franko6677]

I can’t wait until you get to the Head Over Heels LP and everything after. As much as I appreciate this album, I consider that one to be where the band finally starts coming into its signature sound. Wait until you hear Elizabeth’s voice blossom. Garlands has a very singular mood. The entire thing sounds like some dark ritual happening in the woods in the middle of the night. Interesting sound, but I can only take in small doses. What comes later is much more vibrant and melodic.

[@thesoundlikechameleons2082]

Yes Dolores and Siouxsie.

[@bobbysevensevenseven]

I often flash back to listening to this - my favorite track from Garlands - in the dark one very cold night nearly 40 years ago, with my Walkman’s headset as partial earmuffs. The song is so hypnotic and entrancing! I imagine the lyrics relating an early death (murder? Or instead maybe a stillborn or aborted fetus?) and hasty burial (shallow, not deep) in obviously a wet, woodsy area , with perhaps the halo referring to dying without sin. (and being something of a homophone with hallowed). Green water - faded river - dirty, rich soil - Strong and fertile The then-shallow she - Earth as we know it The then-halo she - A sky for the sacred Stars in my eyes - Stars at my feet Womb in the belly - Capitol place

[@handsolo1209]

I don't envy you having to go through the EPs between albums. It's a long journey!

[@mattsnider2667]

Hahaha, there are so many subfolders in there! Need to make sure I do them in the right order.

[@handsolo1209]

@@mattsnider2667 I think I mentioned the order in an email months ago. I will look for it and send it again or post it in the comments.

[@ultimaweapon2000]

The first cocteau twins song I ever heard in 2010 and purely by accident, and my favorite song on the album. I would go onto listen to every album and EP and would consider Cocteau twins one of my favorite bands of all time. This also took me down the goth genre rabbit hole and I'm eternally grateful to it. I'm glad someone finally reacted to this one and gave their detailed thoughts and opinions on it. Great commentary Matt!!

[@cunninglinguist-hu1dz]

Scotland's greatest musical export,to think Elizabeth was 14/15 years old when she "wrote" much of the Garlands album.

[@JCWiley2300]

"Winged water faded river dirty, rich soil strong and fertile The then shallow she earth as we know it The then hallow she a sky for the sacred Stars in my eyes stars at my feet womb in the belly capital place." Remember, I am the only person on the internet allowed to do this. 😂

[@mattsnider2667]

Hahaha, it does seem like lots of folks have been telling me the lyrics at this point in their evolution are less relevant than the overall atmosphere. But that's hilarious.

[@deepbluehue3]

Have you heard the more modern song huge hit by MASSIVE ATTACK ' Teardrop ' ~ THIS is the vocalist : Liz Fraser of Cocteau Twins

[@thesoundlikechameleons2082]

I have Garlands album sleeve signed by both founders Robin Guthrie and William Heggie! know Heggie too! C

[@mattsnider2667]

Oh wow! That's awesome. I'm new to their music but I'm loving the atmosphere and sonics.

[@thesoundlikechameleons2082]

@@mattsnider2667 I love their music! got Victorialand, Garlands, Love's easy tears, Pearly and Blue Bell Knoll 🔔 signed

[@handsolo1209]

OK, pin this or copy it to a word document. The order of the LPs and EPs: Garlands (1982), Lullabies EP (1982), Peppermint Pig EP (1983), Head Over Heels (1983), Sunburst and Snowblind EP (1983), The Spangle Maker EP (1984), Treasure (1984), Aikea-Guinea EP (1985), Tiny Dynamite EP (1985), Echoes in a Shallow Bay EP (1985), Victorialand (1986), Love's Easy Tears EP (1986), The Moon and the Melodies (1986), Blue Bell Knoll (1988), Heaven or Las Vegas (1990), Four-Calendar Café (1993), Snow EP (1993), Twinlights EP (1995), Milk & Kisses (1996)

[@thesoundlikechameleons2082]

Got 4 of those signed by the members!

[@bobbysevensevenseven]

This mash-up works very well, IMHO - Shallow Then Hallow : Motherless Child kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2Kylpaof6yid6c

[@stellaVista]

@bobbysevensevenseven: Thanks for linking to my mashup! I just thoght about posting it here, but you beat me to it by a year! I´m glad you like it and hope more people will find their way to it. I made lots of diffenrent Cocteau Mashups during tha last year. Including a whole remix of the complete Victorialand album. Please browse, like and follow!

[@bobbysevensevenseven]

@@stellaVista Thank you for the invite!

[@RandomJane104]

I wasn't expecting Cocteau Twins. You tend to be lyric oriented and Cocteau is mostly gibberish. Even the titles are bonkers. Don't get me wrong. I'm a longtime fan. You might like Dead Can Dance. Actually, I'm pretty sure you would like Dead Can Dance.

[@mattsnider2667]

So here's the thing---there's an acid-trance track I enjoy from the '90s called Dead Can Dance, so now I'm wondering whether that tune has some influence or reference to the group? Will look into this. And LOL about the Cocteau Twins and their indecipherable lyrics (others have mentioned this to me).

[@handsolo1209]

@@mattsnider2667 Say it ain't so, Joe. Lisa Gerrard and her warbling.....................................

[@mattsnider2667]

Here's the record (and the other track is called "Dead Dance Forever"): www.discogs.com/release/262299-Andy-Alder-Choci-Dead-Dance-Forever

[@mattsnider2667]

Apparently it is Lisa Gerrard! It says so on my copy of the vinyl: "vocal sample courtesy of Lisa Gerrard at Choci's Chewns"

[@handsolo1209]

@@mattsnider2667 Traitor. Wait until I tell Max about this.

[@handsolo1209]

This is how DM think they sound when they produce crap like Spirit.

[@handsolo1209]

Wait a minute, you are wearing black with a strange symbol on your chest. Master!

[@mattsnider2667]

A household going back ... for centuries.

[@handsolo1209]

@@mattsnider2667 Well, the decor is a little dated....

[@thesoundlikechameleons2082]

not a devil worshipper! 🤣😉