WRANGLER 392 GETS 37" TIRES *NO LIFT ON STOCK WHEELS

We decided to go with 37" Tires on the Wrangler 392, and because we love the stock wheels so much we mounted them on the stock 17x7.5" wheels. In this video, we test out the flex and check for rubbing with no lift.
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[@jamesogles1679]

Dude....a lot of people are watching this video to see a 392 on 37s in case they wanna go that route....your the only vid I've seen so far showing that tire size with this jeep....but 95% of the video is of your face....would have liked to see a walk around being able to see the 392 from all angles with the 37s.....very informative tho

[@shockerracing]

Thanks for the input, seriously. I’ll make sure to get more footage of the 392 in the future.

[@MrRjezonie]

@@shockerracing Dude more videos please! My Granite Crystal 392 comes here in a week or so but your giving me plenty of ideas what to do with it.

[@shockerracing]

@@MrRjezonie AWESOME! You’re gonna love it!

[@williamh6547]

Very smart decision with Clayton Off-road lift👍👍that's all I run on my jeeps. Very well built products, with excellent customer service.

[@kazakov]

Looks fantastic. Shame we don't (and won't I guess) have those 392s in Russia. We have weird front bumpers instead

[@TheVikingSailor]

I always use a actual 4x4 shop for any wheel and tire work. Too many bad experiences with these chain tire places.

[@tlh235]

So i was wondering if you went from 33 inch tire package to the 37's you have here or you started with the 35" tire package and went to 37s. I'm def wanting 37's but i'm not sure i need to first get the 35" package with the jeep. thx and great videos.

[@nasirahmad4743]

Thanks for the demo, was looking for a vid like this testing 37.. The color on this 392 is amazing

[@shockerracing]

Glad we could help!

[@rezamiri100]

I just love this wild horse 392

[@FCBoulder]

Good insight - thank you for making this video! Any perspective on if 35s work without impingement on a stock 2023 392 without a lift?

[@miken9484]

That's a beautiful Jeep

[@shockerracing]

Thank you!

[@joseisse8699]

Hey man, I am following your videos and, man, you were born for the camera. Very pleasant to watch. I just recieve my 392 and thanks to your previous presentation about all the tires you try, I had all the information to decided to go with 37” as well. I order BF Goodrich KM3 37x12.5x17. A question for you: did you put spacers or you didn’t need it?

[@shockerracing]

We are adding spacers this week, it doesn’t “need” them but we are adding them because we are installing a big brake kit this week.

[@offroadmedic1699]

The smooth Jazz b-roll footage did it for me. 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

[@shockerracing]

Lmao! Welcome back to KZbin!

[@kevincampbell6490]

Thank you so much because this is the set up I wanna go with but was worried I was gonna have to lift the Jeep. I'm not opposed to lifting vs leveling but I need to know if 37s would rub and destroy the ride quality. Thanks.

[@RichardG1970impala]

U need spacers and a lift

[@1EddieMan]

Hey James, Looks and sounds real sharp!!! If your front lower control arm rubbing at full turn is minor (less than 1/2”), you may opt to add a few small SS washers to your steering stops to prevent the rubbing. Seems to work just fine for me. Just offering my 0.02 suggestion. 🔧

[@shockerracing]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@jgamby5]

Nice pro tip on the "beauty rings" with Discount Tires. Any thoughts on how much more tire tread or wearability there is on the RIDGE Grapplers VS the Mud Grappler?

[@shockerracing]

I honestly don’t have any experience with the Mud Grapplers, but I would imagine they are noisy on the road.

[@keithmurphy8417]

Do you see any issues with hitting rocks on that low oil pan-sump

[@OfficeAutomatedcom]

Hey James. Thanks for the video. I also have a 392. I traded in a 2019 rubi on 37's. Also ridge grapplers. On a metal cloak 3" lift. (I think it was 3") The ride was stiff on my 2019 jeep. What I love about the 392 on stock tires is how well it rides. Did your ride quality change when putting the 37" RG's on?

[@shockerracing]

I can’t tell any difference in ride quality on the 37’s.

[@OfficeAutomatedcom]

@@shockerracing Thanks good to know. :)

[@wranglerlife4ever42]

Depends on what load rating the tires are. Rubicon has C load rated tires and many people swap out the 285/70/17 to 35s or 37s and dont pay attention to load rating of the new tires and get E load tires which are super heavy and very stiff. Thats why the Wrangler rides rough after a tire swap. Putting an E load rated tire on a lightweight Wrangler and then having to drive around aired down to 22lbs of air just to get a comfortable ride because the tires are way too stiff

[@MACzerofourtwo]

I like my Teraflex spare tire carrier on my JL if you don’t decide not to wait. I am running it with the Mopar re enforced tail gate, but Teraflex just came out with theirs. The spare tire carrier uses your back up light and just above the camera.

[@shockerracing]

I was looking at that one when I found out the Rustys was on back order, but the Teraflex one is super expensive and also was sold out!

[@salemkhalifa19]

Your channel very useful thanks a lot

[@shockerracing]

Glad to help!

[@Dave-jl5tm]

Thanks for posting! I'm wondering if you know what the height of the stock 392 on 37s is. Trying to figure out if it will fit through my garage door.

[@shockerracing]

I can try to measure tomorrow

[@waburkhead]

Did you have to remove the end caps from front bumper to make tires fit? Looks great

[@shockerracing]

I’m not sure if there would have been any clearance issues with them on, I took them off before hand because I like the look.

[@zerofuckkksgiven8027]

Did you feel it good?

[@AJRizzo69]

Did you think wheel spacers or wheels with a negative -12 offset accommodate the rubbing?

[@shockerracing]

I think it would stop the rubbing on the control arms, just not sure about the rear liner.

[@johnpakluxuryrealestate8821]

I just ordered 2022 392 with Xtreme Recon 35-Inch tire package. I will be driving it for work and I am not sure if I really need 37. I believe I am getting 12.9 clearance right from factory with a 4.56 rear axle ratio. Do you really think I need to go 37 then I can order with basic 33 and change it to 37 once I take delivery of the car? Please let me know what you think. Thanks.

[@shockerracing]

For daily driving and flex clearance the 35’s will be your best bet. I just personally like the extra beef, and since we are running 40’s on our Gladiator the 35’s and 33’s just seem so small now. I would stick with the 35’s and see how you like it, then you can always move up to 37’s later.

[@yaoli7331]

Hey, love your video, I got couples question,Does your jeep have the XR package? Cuz XR is sit higher I believe, how bad is it rubbing when you running the 37, is it enough to damage it ?

[@shockerracing]

Ours is not an XR, the rubbing was just slight but if you add spacers that will fix it. We have a video about the spacers

[@owenbybee8231]

Hey James. Thank you for the video. Two questions: 1. Is there any rake to the Jeep? (front end sitting a little lower than the rear). I'm wondering if I add a winch right out of the gate if I need a 3/4 inch spacer to level? I think you mentioned going with a Clayton lift? Are you doing 2.5 inch or 3.5 inch? We are supposed to have out 392 in a couple of weeks and we are taking off to go Colorado and won't have much time to mod for trails. Thanks!

[@shockerracing]

If there is any rake it is definitely slight. We are going with a 2.5” Clayton lift, which should actually only be about 1/2” increase.

[@owenbybee8231]

@@shockerracing Are you keeping the stock shocks? Thanks for your reply and keep up the good work.

[@user-pv9cf4fr6d]

Any concerns running anything above 33”? Still running a Dana 4x with all this power…. I would be worried with the drive components, especially after warranty period

[@danielmiller4354]

I’m ordering mine with the Xtreme Recon package which comes with everything needed to run 35 inch tires as well as the tires themselves. Don’t plan on going bigger personally just doesn’t seem worth all the work to make it fully functional while running 37s plus.

[@jasonowens5890]

It has a mopar lift installed on it at the factory, standard where as a regular rubicon needs a lift for that stance with 37”.

[@shockerracing]

I thought that as well, but I was corrected by someone who works for Jeep that it is not a Mopar Lift. It’s just taller springs.

[@billyowen6672]

Question. With 37's if you left full stock bumper on would the tires rub? I'm about 10mins. from you a d ordered my 392 2 weeks ago.

[@shockerracing]

I’m honestly not sure because we took them off before ever testing tire combos.

[@22TheJuggernaut]

Does this apply for the 21 rubicon with the rubbing on 37s?

[@shockerracing]

A regular rubicon has less lift from the factory so it would definitely rub. 35’s are perfect on a Rubicon with no lift.

[@arthurleyba3549]

Do you think wheel spacers would help front wheel hitting the control arm.

[@shockerracing]

I know it would! Stay tuned for my next video! 😉

[@juancho9209ninja]

I will just have it exactly like that 😍🔥

[@christiancarbajal4978]

I just had mine done ,not long ago with no problem.

[@shockerracing]

What did you have done?

[@Steve-pc6cb]

Does the headliner help out with wind/road noise? I just placed an order for a 392 I added the headliner and I’m not sure if it’s worth $600 or not.

[@shockerracing]

I can’t tell the difference with or without it 🤷‍♂️

[@BmoreBirds]

Since Trail Grapplers are on Backorder I’m going with Clayton Off Road performance spring set up and after watching this video I should have no problem fitting a -.12 17 with a ridge grappler 38x12.5/17.

[@shockerracing]

Yeah, that should work nicely.

[@BmoreBirds]

Thats funny. I’m watching your video right now when you ran 40’s. Those springs should give me just enough stiffness to run well. Thanks for the quick reply

[@shockerracing]

@@BmoreBirds awesome! Always glad to help!

[@johndigregorio7856]

Hey were these 37/12.5 Or 37/13.5? Thanks love the videos and the jeeps! I’m finally picking up my 392 cannot be more excited!

[@shockerracing]

12.5’s! That’s awesome, congrats!!!

[@johndigregorio7856]

Do you think I can do a 13.5 I have the teraflex spacers already in my garage.

[@shockerracing]

@@johndigregorio7856 are you mounting them on the stock wheels?

[@jimdolvin1916]

I have a stock 2019 JLUR. Does the Wrangler 392 and my 2019 JLUR have the same shocks, stock lift, etc.? I would think with the weight of the two engines that could help me Jeep. Just curious.

[@shockerracing]

The 392 has taller springs so it sits higher than and regular JLUR.

[@jimdolvin1916]

@@shockerracing Thank you!

[@user-xp8qz1cc8z]

Did you use the Tazer to recalibrate your speedo?

[@shockerracing]

Yes

[@AkronKid330]

We wanted to see you get out of that rut.

[@bransonchastain2004]

Great video! My sting gray 392 is ordered. If I don’t wheel but just the occasional trail, would you go 35s or 37s? Thanks so much!

[@MrRjezonie]

Dude I’m debating the same thing. I’m swinging towards the 35s for my occasional trail usage. I’d re-gear if I was going 37s for sure.

[@tripleseven8361]

Some good questions at the beginning of the video… Did you change the speedometer calibration so that the speedometer/odometer read correctly?

[@shockerracing]

Yes, we used the Tazer

[@tripleseven8361]

Thanks for the quick response… I meant to ask as well…I would think that your mileage has improved… Although it takes more horsepower to drive the larger wheels, without re-gearing, each wheel rotation covers more ground, hence, theoretically, better MPG.

[@shockerracing]

@@tripleseven8361 it’s actually slightly worse because they are bigger heavier tires and takes more force to turn them.

[@tripleseven8361]

@@shockerracing Thanks...My Jeep is a 2006 TJ sport, with a 2"OME suspension lift...Nothing elaborate, but it still drives great...I've reserved a spot for the new Ineos Grenadier in 2023, but if that doesn't happen, a 392 is still on my list.

[@willito1211]

Are there any specific lift kits for the 392 ? Or any lift kit would work? The reason I am asking is because of the extra weight. Example: would a teraflex complete kit work?

[@shockerracing]

There are some differences for the 392, so you need to make sure it will work with the 392.

[@willito1211]

@@shockerracing what kind of differences would that be? Thank you very much for your reply!

[@shockerracing]

@@willito1211 I’m not 100% positive just yet, but I know there a differences from my conversations with Clayton OffRoad.

[@MrRjezonie]

I spoke with a rep at teraflex the other day for my 392. They are working on a 392 specific lift as we speak!

[@shockerracing]

@@MrRjezonie we have a lift from Clayton waiting to be installed. We should be installing it next week.

[@edwardscottiidds4941]

Had to keep seeing the posters face instead of the jeep.

[@omarramirez2335]

@ShockerRacing Did 37” Patagonia M/T on sisters Completely Factory Stock JLU Rubicon V6 on the stock wheels with Hubcentric Spacers a bit absolutely no lift stock from factory and there is absolutely no rubbing ride feels nice and Tight with a Low COG By the way the only rubbing was on the lower front bumper skid plate can easily space wheels out or adjust steering stop 1 turn with washer behind stops The only other mod was I Removed the rear lower part of the fender liner on both sides and heat gunned molded them a bit further back I have flexed out multiple times and even with a forklift at work with disconnected sway bars and nothing zero rubbing after the hubcentric spacers now only slightly scrubs minor plastic stuff liner in rear when completely packed and loaded with passengers and groceries or cargo in the rear only on like a hard parking lot bump or so really nothing some Aftermarket Inner Fender Liners won’t fix like American Adventure Lab ones which are next on list

[@shockerracing]

What size spacers did you use?

[@danielmiller4354]

Curious did they tell you what the percentage was on the tint? I want to do the same to mine when it comes in.

[@shockerracing]

We match the rear tint which I believe was 22%

[@danielmiller4354]

@@shockerracing awesome thanks for the quick response!

[@shockerracing]

@@danielmiller4354 always glad to help!

[@danielmiller4354]

So I finally had tint put on the front windows. Not super happy with it though. Think they went to dark to match it. They said they did closer to 15%.

[@meeperrxp]

The 392 definitely has a 2” kit from the factory. You can even see the upgraded seat bar links. The springs and shocks are longer. Adjustable control arms are not necessary with 2” on these. JLs. Even the dealer available mopar lift kit has front lower arms but they are not any longer. The joints are just dual durometer style

[@shockerracing]

I confirmed with a Jeep employee, he says it’s just taller springs and the different Fox shocks not a lift kit. It does sit 2” higher than a JLUR.

[@brianhayes7108]

@@shockerracing that sounds like a lift kit lol

[@shockerracing]

@@brianhayes7108 lol, I see what you’re saying but it’s not a “lift KIT” a kit should include all the necessary track bars etc.

[@meeperrxp]

@@brianhayes7108 yes it is. The 2” lift kit from mopar does not include track bars as they are not needed for 2” lift. The track bars on the jl are so long that they have enough travel to keep the axles on center. You can even see the longer sway bar links on the 392 and they are different color than the other models

[@Alphapreneur]

Are these 12.5's or 13.5's? Thanks! Amazing video!

[@shockerracing]

12.5’s

[@Alphapreneur]

@@shockerracing I’m going to order 37s for my 392 next week and I can’t decide if I should do 12.5 or 13.5 on the stock lift. Would YOU recommend 12.5? I respect and appreciate your advice! Love all that you do here on the KZbin! 🙌

[@shockerracing]

@@Alphapreneur are you putting them on the stock wheels?

[@Alphapreneur]

@@shockerracing No, I plan on getting 20x9 Black Rhino Carbines

[@shockerracing]

@@Alphapreneur if it’s a 9” wheel then you could choose to go with the 13.5”

[@DJZander303]

What’s the fuel economy with the new tires

[@shockerracing]

We haven’t put enough miles on yet to confirm the mpg’s

[@kurtp5379]

🤣

[@charleslewis8085]

Have you driven your 392 on the highway yet? I have. Take a look at your front left wheel well and see if your tire has rubbed it or burnt a hole. Mine did and I can explain to you what is wrong.

[@shockerracing]

Hey Charles, I saw your email. Sorry I didn’t get a chance to respond sooner. That’s crazy about your wheel well, ours hasn’t had the issue. Do you know why yours got damaged?

[@charleslewis8085]

@@shockerracing I brought it to the dealer in Aurora this morning. They scratched their heads and had no answer. My theory is the hood scope intake is forcing sir towards the back side of the wheel well at higher speeds causing the wheel well to flex into the tire. They are going to call me back on this tomorrow.

[@shockerracing]

@@charleslewis8085 are there by any chance any of the fender liner clips missing?

[@charleslewis8085]

@@shockerracing no, that was looked at.

[@danielmiller4354]

I have noticed a few people are having this issue with the 392. I am already looking into aluminum inner fenders. Problem is they do not cover the bottom of the actual fenders like the stock plastic ones do. People have heard it’s the air from the hood intake that’s making it pop out. Someone else said it might have been when he drove through a large amount of water pushing it into the hood. Not sure but I am trying to avoid it.

[@wilsoncombat1341]

How did it drive with the stock 3.73 gears?

[@shockerracing]

It drives great, and even our new Mojito 392 on 40’s is fine with the 3.73’s

[@wilsoncombat1341]

@@shockerracing Thought it would be fine since the engine makes torque down so low but wanted to hear from someone that had done it. Thanks bud

[@deanh7190]

Somewhere there is a barber being sued by the Pineapple Union.

[@sheaallen7839]

What color is your Jeep?

[@shockerracing]

Granite

[@georgpollman4705]

First like Then watch

[@pc5537]

I hope someone can help me. So i have the 392 for a while and decided to upgrade my tires and i put in 37*12.50r22 and my wheels are 27*10 -18 offset so ever since i did that i feel like my jeep got slower i feel like i lose on the torque because before with the tire it came with when i punch it it will literally take off and tou could feel the recoil. And now i don’t feel it at all and it takes a minutes before like there’s is a real delay when u punch it and when keep on speeding it feels different. Need help please i just want to know does bigger tire and wheel does that or do i need something else to support these tires and wheels please help🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@shockerracing]

Yes, this is normal. I’m sure the 22” wheels are very heavy and you also added a lot of weight going from a 33” tire to a 37” tire. All that extra weight at all 4 corners is going to make the engine feel a little less potent.

[@pc5537]

@@shockerracing thanks I appreciate that. And nothing else can bring it back to how it was before?

[@shockerracing]

@@pc5537 if you regear to different gearing that would help. Plan on a regear costing about $2500 installed.

[@pc5537]

@@shockerracing so doing that will it change anything additional on the car? And will it still be safe to drive and speed

[@shockerracing]

@@pc5537 many people regear for larger tires. On our Gladiator we went from 4.10 gears to 5.13 to account for our 40” tires. I recommend talking to a gear company like Nitro Gears to discuss what gear ratio is optimal for you.

[@BennyTygohome]

This guy reminds me of Ray Zalinski in tommy boy

[@A_Son_Of_Yahuah]

Rubbing❓Not good...Looks awesome though❗

[@wranglerlife4ever42]

Now just need new 17x9” or 17x9.5” wheels in a 4.5-5.0 backspacing and not only will the wheels/tires look better the rubbing issue will be solved with a proper backspacing

[@oldmanbuild]

Ok I don't know everything about Jeeps, but why mount on 7.5" rims when you should have wider ones with at least a 3" lift or more. Maybe you don't off road and or never will. Your tires are great but you air down you may have problems when you hit the rocks. Lets face it Granite Chrystal is a rocking color, I love mine. It does look great with the Nitto tires but with the lift you will loose the rub with proper rims. Yes my 35's with a two inch lift do rub the fender wells at extreme flex in the rocks. So I'm not Mr Know it all. Regardless enjoy the 392 and I look forward to see what up grades you make. Take care and enjoy your Jeep Rubicon 392. OMB

[@chucksrchabit.7671]

Did you use them as beadlocks

[@shockerracing]

Nope

[@chucksrchabit.7671]

@@shockerracing was wondering if anyone has. Was going to with mine

[@richardthomas1531]

You mentioned the Gladiator, I have the Mojave which is supposed to be an inch taller and also an inch wider wheel stance ,Is that enough to eliminate the rubs with 37s?

[@shockerracing]

Are you running the stock wheels still?

[@richardthomas1531]

I ordered 17 x 9.5 Rhino Wheels with 4.5 backspace

[@shockerracing]

@@richardthomas1531 that should move the wheels out about 1.5” so that should definitely help.

[@richardthomas1531]

@@shockerracing Thanks ,I just wish the wheel guys were this Quick.

[@jose32301]

Yes your good

[@Gustin44]

The question is, what kind of product do you use to old your hair ❓🤔

[@shockerracing]

I woke up like this...

[@Gustin44]

@@shockerracing impressive 👍

[@zerofuckkksgiven8027]

Or get some wheel spacers

[@helciofreitasbrito9500]

Tenho ionteresse em adiquirir um jeep

[@royeinbar6116]

This would not do in real off roading ( and no,driving on the grass is not off roading).Also regearing is much needed,hearing the engine struggeling. It is ok if you are not off roading at all .

[@LiveByItHD]

Discount Tires sucks, go to Firestone

[@TheInstigator918]

Hope you got a discount for doing part of their job lol

[@Mike_E_44]

$80,000 for a stock Jeep. I don't know.

[@jo-vf7rc]

393 high altitude

[@jacklevesque2508]

you dont tink the rim is to narrow for those tires

[@shockerracing]

No, not at all.

[@dankruger2890]

wont be using Discount Tire

[@timpoortinga8184]

Not a fan of the bronze color

[@lilcuriousgeorge1]

you could add wheel spacers if you wanted

[@MountainManGuy]

He already mentioned that in the video

[@palmerdigitalgroup5952]

Check your email again please. I just sent you some interesting information on the wheel well.

[@patriotreno6279]

Why the bigger tires. have you heard of death wobble?

[@coryhenson5059]

Do you pay for that hair, or does your wife do it for you 🤣

[@shockerracing]

I wake up like this...

[@SuperThunder911]

Why not just do a lift and be done period,it would look better too👍

[@shockerracing]

We were still waiting on the lift to come in. And we are trying to do things in stages to help answer questions that people have about the 392.

[@dundeeecroc]

and Toyota can't make trucks offroad worthy??

[@edsil5754]

Who cares.....

[@dundeeecroc]

@@edsil5754 I've had 2 Jeep wrangler Sahara limited editions, guess what? they are JUNK!!!! each Jeep had 83 sensors. need less electronics. ( one was an automatic and the other was a 6 speed manual).

[@orvywebster2598]

That is the most off road that jeep will ever see. Your 37's will be fine LOL

[@shockerracing]

WRONG

[@Sam-ut4dv]

C’est le jl qu il faut filmer pas toi , c’est quoi l’intérêt ????!

[@basc5836]

что думает Путин, глядя на эту машину? Он думает - У росси ян нет таких машин, которые Америка делает для своих граждан, нет таких замечательных инженеров, которые дарят американцам радость вождения. Зато у меня есть нефть и газ, которые дадут мне неограниченную возможность ездить на таких машинах любой модификации....

[@mickbenq]

Lift it or you will regret it…….

[@themanthelegend7048]

Lesbian haircut.

[@phillyb4588]

Posing poser style

[@DUNEATV]

Lol

[@phillipconnolly5020]

What makes him a poser? That he can afford a 392 and you can’t?

[@kennysantiago71]

One of the most annoying things is I don't care about you dude...show us your Jeep! You can still talk and we can hear ya, just show us the Jeep close up and at a distance!