Why Sirius Black Tried To KILL Severus Snape By Setting A TRAP

[@w98]

Snape: almost gets killed Sirius: it’s just a prank bro lol

[@thelestrangelair]

Sirius was evil. I am telling you! Deserved what he bloody got. *cackles* Bella L

[@brandonmedina494]

What pisses me off is that when Harry, Ron and Hermione hear about what Sirius did to Snape they're dismissive of it as if they also believed that Snape deserved it.

[@denizkenger52]

They’re assholes

[@brandonmedina494]

@@denizkenger52 they're biased because they hate Snape. I don't like Snape either but damn i will stand by this notion that Sirius was a fool to do this and should've been expelled. Attempted murder is still a crime in the Muggle world why not the Wizarding world?

[@prozorozo]

I do agree that they dismissed it a bit too quickly, but I would round that up to how they saw him act in book 3, where even tough sirius was not guilty and he heard that trough the door, he was willing to give him and lupin to the dementors Really after that display, what reasonable immature kid would ever feel sorry for such a man

[@Allthingsasian]

But when Harry learnt that James bullied Snape didn’t he feel sympathetic to Snape?

[@prozorozo]

@@Allthingsasian well someone didn't read the books, afterwards harry compares the marauders bullying to the dudley gang bullying, he does not feel sympathy, he feels empathy

[@jackmiles1918]

The fact that Snape still managed understand which side was right despite being pushed to the other side by nearly everyone. It would've been so easy for Snape to see Lilly choosing and being with James as a complete betrayal, and he could've hated her for it. There literally wasn't 1 person on the good side that gave Snape a reason to be on that side. Obviously Dumbledore did, but that was only after he switched because, the woman who Snape helped to become a witch, who then pushed him away and went with the person who made his life a misery, the woman he loved, was to be killed. Snape is literally the strongest character I have ever known

[@willembossong427]

It is a very interesting background story.

[@thewanderingwitchwolfraven]

And yet he still loved her and was broken hearted over the lose of her

[@marie.naturallysims2179]

Exactly, this is spot on about Snape's character. He's a strong character.

[@LordMarvin1993]

It's hard to hate someone you love even if they don't love you back

[@katherineknapp6604]

I agree

[@sifilore9462]

Now we know what Snape meant in PoA, "Vengeance is sweet".

[@katherineknapp6604]

Yep

[@lisakaz35]

I thought he meant that because he was getting revenge against the person who got Lily killed.

[@katherineknapp6604]

@@lisakaz35 I definitely can see that.

[@briesullivan883]

What do you mean “now we know”? We always knew. Lupin explained what happened in the third book.

[@sifilore9462]

@@briesullivan883 Didn't read the book prior to the movie, and that goes for others like me or never read them.

[@WithADashOfPazazz]

this also happens BEFORE snape's worst memory so you can't use it as a turning point in james's characterisation. and remus says james 'risked his life' to save snape. lol. NOW it's life threatening. sirius could have got james AND snape killed and ruined remus' life and probably got the school shut down. and what's worse? in 'snape's worst memory', he says he is bored and wishes it were a full moon again. what, so you can try to ruin your friends life, and almost kill another student and your best friend all over again?

[@9Tailsfan]

Don't get me wrong, I like Serious, but I agree it was a really shitty move. Think about it, Remus would have been sent to Azkaban or executed if he had killed Shape. And the reputation of Dumbledore and Hogwarts would be ruined.

[@howardlanus8467]

Shitty, yes. But I don't think it was murder. I think it was simply Sirius being an immature idiot, much as he admitted himself in OOTP.

[@elora179]

Remus wouldn’t have gone to jail, it was not his fault

[@tater4442]

@@elora179 Remus most definitely would have been imprisoned, don’t forget how prejudice the wizarding world is.

[@bluebearie7230]

It was his blind loyalty and his own lack of maturity. remember we also had this trend of pranking in real world, those teenagers (or at least, man-child) had no regard for others' safety in mind, they just wanted the attentions.

[@LindaRobbinsStraitfever]

When James was bullying Severus, hanging him upside down in the air, and making wisecracks about dirty underwear Lilli's face started to crack into a smile as she watched James. (See the book.) Severus saw that, and was deeply hurt by it. That is why he reacted as he did, calling her "mudblood." She caused it. Anyone who has been bullied, who was basically alone, would understand that as betrayal. I have yet to see that mentioned in any of the recordings I've watched.

[@chrisweldon3476]

Very good point she definitely did low key laugh at snape

[@WithADashOfPazazz]

good point. he still shouldn't have called her but she was trying not to laugh at her supposed best friend being bullied and then layer implied that she knew he had used the slur before but only ended the friendship because he used it on HER! she was also way too quick to bully snape back by calling him the same name his bullies used. it just rolled off her tongue.

[@slipperyjivemonkey]

I don’t believe she smiled at that - she smiled slightly after seeing his skinny white legs. She certainly wasn’t laughing with James or laughing a Severus. Snape attacked her because he was angry and embarrassed and lashed out. Simple as that.

[@Hari-kx2er]

It is more complicated than that. One bad word did not cause the rupture of their relationship. Severus was used to calling muggle borns students as mudbloods. He was also friends with the dark arts crowd at Hogwarts almost all of whom became death eaters. Lily was the exception for long. James's bullying broke that exception. However, James did not teach the word to Severus. Besides if James had bullied another student who never used the word "mudbloods" , that student would never suddenly use it cause of humiliation. In Lily" own words "Slip of tongue? But you call everyone of my birth "mudbloods" Severus, why should I be any different " Read the books PROPERLY

[@thelestrangelair]

I don't think Snape and Lily were ever supposed to be a thing in book five. There ws no forshadowing. She smiled because she was playing with James. Pretending to defend Severus to annoy James who she knew wanted to date her. Being coy or whatever they call it? That's why Severus insulted her. She was nothing to him. In the first book/movie when Dumbledore tells Harry now Snape can return to hating his father's memory he could've dropped, but he did love your Mum, or something but nope. Because Rowling indeed did not have that planned out. She added it before book 6 because Rickman was going to stop playing Snape due to finding the character unlikable so she knew she had to do something fast. The bit about him going to drop the character is an article online and the time line ads up. Just after ootp book and 2nd movie. Yep Severus and Lily were never intended to be anything which is far more logical cause you know Snape a grudge holding mother. LOL. Bella L

[@betterlatethannever4529]

When the literal wolf is the good one of your group, something is seriously wrong.

[@ladyofnoxus6733]

Right lol 😆

[@katherinkeegan8601]

And no group of friends needs a rat!😉😂

[@matthewc3135]

I'm not sure the werewolf incident really shows how much James matured. The Snape's worst memory scene occured after the werewolf incident. James likely realized what would've happened to Remus had Snape actually entered the shack.

[@carissaluttonmovietalk]

I always thought it was a ridiculous thing for Black to do considering Lupin would have probably been sent to jail for life/killed if he had bitten Snape.

[@lisakaz35]

Expelled at the very least.

[@jouzu2477]

Black was never the brightest when it come to decision making

[@niahoad]

Its Lupins biggest fear to infect anyone with lycanthropie

[@carissaluttonmovietalk]

@@jouzu2477 true

[@carissaluttonmovietalk]

@@niahoad yep, poor guy

[@ProfRavenSteel]

After watching this video, I'm convinced they all were doomed after how they treated Snape. James, lily, Sirius deserved nothing less than what they got. They were marauders indeed.

[@WithADashOfPazazz]

wow damn 💀

[@SouthpawsRule217]

Read the books, your view will change. Snape, even during his school days, hung out with voldemorts followers, was racist to the heavens against muggleborns and the no. 1 fan of dark arts. He was even worse than marauders were. Those guys at least matured, snape went from a magical nazi to a bully teacher.

[@thelestrangelair]

HAHA the selena Gomez song, Kill em with Kindness I always see as Albus to Severus. Then there is a paridy of that song talking about kill em with kindness because everyone she hates dies and I consider that Severus's reply to Albus. Because James, Sirius, Lily. LOL. Bella L

[@nunguyen6527]

​@@SouthpawsRule217who do you thing he can hangout with beside these Slytherine? The Gryfindoor who bullied him? The bestfriend who have many other friends? he sleeps every days in a dorm with these Slytherine, if he didn't make friend with them, he can be killed in his sleep 😢 or, do you think he don't need to have any friend?

[@darrenmadden82]

that’s why i love snape and is my favorite character. he’s the outcast and no one likes him always calling him a coward when he risked his life to save Harrys. why they gotta do my mama like that??

[@TheReverantChoir]

Sirius Black would legit use his friend as a murder weapon and make him a murderer and exposing him to the world. Bravo.

[@allisonj905]

I've been thinking on house placements. I feel I would fit in any of them really, but it comes down to my personal choice (Hufflepuff; I work hard and actually like to be nice). Sirius had issues with his family so a large part of why he was in Gryffindor was to spite his family. It doesn't mean that he COULDN'T have been placed in Slytherin. I believe he made a personal choice much like Harry did when he was sorted. So Sirius would still have qualities of a Slytherin (sort of like Hermione with Ravenclaw, another example).

[@brandonmedina494]

If Snape had died or gotten lycanthropy than Sirius deserves Azkaban.

[@denizkenger52]

He deserves Azkaban regardless, it’s still attempted murder.

[@marie.naturallysims2179]

The werewolf trick was the last straw for Snape. After this he learns that everyone on the light side don't care what happens to him cause he's a slytherin. Dumbledore for instance, swept the incident under the rug and only punished Snape, forced Snape to be quiet about the incident while allowing the marauders to talk about it. Lily, she found out her best friend's life was in danger to the point where he needed saving and instead of asking him if he's all right or anything like that or asking what happened, she brings up what his friends tried to do to her Gryffindor friend and the only time she brings up what happened to Snape was to gaslight him. Honestly I always think the werewolf trap is similar to the sectumsempra incident in Half Blood Prince between Harry and Draco. Both characters (Harry and Snape) had theories on their bullies. Harry had a theory Draco was a death eater. Snape had a theory Lupin, was a werewolf and the marauders knew about it and were being reckless with a dangerous creature. Both Harry and Snape followed them around, trying to prove their theories to their friends who didn't believe their theories. Both purposely went after their targets. Harry used the marauders map to find out where Draco was qnd went to the bathroom where he knew Draco was to confront him, while Snape listened to Sirius and went to the shrieking shack, finding Lupin as a werewolf. Both had good reasons for following them. Draco was a death eater, plotting something, and almost killed a couple of people. Lupin was a werewolf leaving the shrieking shack as a werewolf and endangered people, almost biting/killing people, plus the marauders relentlessly bullied Snape for years making Hogwarts hell for him. Only difference about the incident is, what happens afterwards. Harry isn't traumatised after the incident while Snape is, and on top of this, Harry wasn't silenced about the incident so he was able to tell his friends, Ginny and Ron were both in his corner, supporting him, while Snape was made to keep quiet by the headmaster, causing the friendship between Severus and Lily, his childhood friend to fade away as Snape wasn't able to tell her what happened, while Lily believed one side of the story without asking what happened.

[@denizkenger52]

Yeah Dumbledore made a mistake. He was unjust and unfair. Can’t blame Snape for wanting to overthrow a society that supported injustice and let attempted murderers walk free unpunished.

[@ladyofnoxus6733]

I think Harry was a bit traumatized, but the fact he was able to talk about it definitely helped. And I don't believe Snap gaslighted him. (I could be wrong. )

[@Allthingsasian]

The difference between Harry and the marauders were their mentalities. Sirius led Snape into the shrieking shack to ‘scare’ him and to intimidate him and James rescuing Snape was not for Snape himself but rather for Lupin’s sake. Harry however did not use Sectumsempra to intentionally hurt Draco or put him down, he didn’t even know what Sectumpsempra did and only used it as he heard Draco nearly shout Crucio. The difference is that whilst James and Sirius never really felt any semblance of guilt or comprehend the horror of what they nearly did, Harry did understand the weight of what he did, and whilst both escaped punishment Harry was extremely traumatised and guilt ridden for what he did to Draco. He had no intention of hurting him in the brutal way he did, whilst Sirius did. Just goes to show why Harry is so much more compassionate than people like Sirius and James.

[@audrey2181]

I don't think Snape's motive was that innocent. He wasn't tailling the maraudeurs out of some sense of protection for the innocents people of hogsmade. The incident happened during the sixth year, just after James publicly undressed him and just after he got into THE big fight with Lily. That year, he was alone, bitter, and hell bent on getting his revenge. He started writing his half-blood prince diary, and invented the sectumsepra spell (wich kind of show his thirst for blood). But he was smart enough to not confront the four maraudeurs together, so he tried to find their weakness to attack them where it would hurt the most (as any good slytherin would). Anyway, i think Sirius, who is kind of an impulsive idiot, got fed up by Snape spying, and tried to give him a good scare so he would stop to follow them around for good, without thinking his plan through. I also don't think Snape got traumatised by the incident. Beside his pride, who got scratched by being saved by his worst ennemi, i'm sure he got over it. (After all it was'nt one of the memory he showed to Harry) The levicorpus incident was the real trauma to me. Also, Dumbledore could not have punished the maraudeurs afterward, since he was probably not aware of their involvement in it. All he knew (in my opinion) was that Snape tried to uncover Remus secret and almost got killed in the process. And finaly, i think that incident played a big role, into James, and Sirius growing up.

[@matthewc3135]

Nah, the Snape and Draco incidents were very different. Draco attempts to cast the cruciatus curse on Harry, and Harry didn't know what sectumsempra did. Sirius certainly knew what would happened to Snape had he entered the shack.

[@mohithas960]

In my opinion, all these wouldn't have happened if ONE teacher decided to take the situation in their hands.

[@katherinkeegan8601]

Which teacher?

[@nunguyen6527]

​@@katherinkeegan8601no one cared for Snape

[@chaci1]

I also love the scene of Snape protecting the three.

[@haroldb1856]

Sirius arranged a horrible death for Snape and a life ruining event for his friend Lupin. It's kind of messed up.

[@thelestrangelair]

Sirius has ODD and was clearly a sociopath. Even his family disliked him. Yep.Bella L

[@ivoneray1472]

Am I the only Harry Potter fan that never liked Sirius Black? I respect his role in the Wizarding War and his relationship with Harry, but that's it. I like Lupin's character and backstory much more. Lupin is my favorite Marauder.

[@darija9873]

Same! I never cared much about him tbh, he was kinda a meh character for me. I wasn't even that sad when he died, I just hated how Harry lost another family member

[@ivoneray1472]

@@darija9873 yeah, same here.

[@denizkenger52]

No you’re not. He’s the character I hate the most in the Harry Potter series.

[@ivoneray1472]

@@denizkenger52 I don't hate him, but I don't like him either. He's very insensitive and his pranks are always so harmful. I know Snape is not an example of kindness, but Sirius almost had him killed and got away with that! People seem to forget he used to use magic in front of the muggles just fun and that's against the Wizarding Law. I don't see any quality of his character aside his love and friendship to the Potter family.

[@Sammy.H.Redwood]

@@darija9873 Me too, I did not cry when he was killed.

[@brokenmask333]

I don’t get it. How can one guy hate someone else so much that he’s willing his own friend’s illness as a weapon. And Black claims to be on the ‘light’ side

[@lisakaz35]

Perhaps all the hard knocks Black took pushed him onto the light side.

[@NorryaParsa]

Black grew up in a Pureblood Wizarding family! Lord knows what he saw, heard, and was exposed to..... 😳😳😳💀💀💀🤪🤪🤪

[@MsAnemoi]

@@NorryaParsa besides the fact that his parents were on top close relatives

[@Gilded_Cage_Princess]

I became a fan of shape after DH and have seen lots of hate for him and his actions. On that I use the same argument, he grew up in an abusive home and Slytherin housemates nearly 24/7 bullied and found purpose in their goals. Plus being a teenager you get sucked into toxic and abusive relationships and do mental gymnastics justifying it all be ause all it takes is your vulnerability and they draw you in. No matter how smart you are, you can still be conned into things you'll regret. No shape wasn't right in his adult actions. But I also don't believe his love was obsession or lust. Those feelings don't drive a person's loyalty after the object of affection has died. Or wouldn't for that long. What would he have gotten out of it? I am disappointed in serious, I thought better of him before this video.

[@katherinkeegan8601]

@@Gilded_Cage_Princess The names are Snape and Sirius.

[@LindaRobbinsStraitfever]

After reading all these interesting comments, and the more I think of it, I feel Dumbledore really failed several people, but most of all, Snape, who did everything asked of him.

[@alexandrasmith4226]

Always been fascinated by this incident! Thanks so much!

[@Edwinthemountainman8454]

Dumbledore: every house and person is equal. Ah Harry i like the glasses 50 points to Griffindor.

[@mauraaa2988]

the prank is never a fun time in fics, but it’s so important for the story

[@AHufflepuffAndASwiftie]

I can just imagine what James said to Sirius that night: James: WHAT?! You did WHAT?! Sirius: What? It's just a joke! After all, he DESERVES it!! James: No, Sirius! You've gone TOO far!! Sirius: Oh, c'mon!! You're just worried what Lily would say if she found out! Well, she's not gonna. I'm not gonna tell her, James. Don't worry! I won't, I promise! James: Sirius, no!! I'm gonna go get him before it's too late! You really went too far this time! Sirius, think of Remus if not Snape!! [Runs off to the tree.] I actually can't imagine why James & Sirius remained friends after that (let alone Remus, if they ever told him). Hey, that could be a cool vid to do: 'Why James & Remus Remained Friends With Sirius After That Night?' Cause I'm honestly not sure I would have after what almost could have happened . . . 🤔

[@wolfgirl2074]

They probably stayed friends because maybe bullies have limits. Like he said, James didn’t like Severus. But he didn’t want him to die. Sirius, I guess was the bully on the side who just wants to impress his friend. James probably was mad at Sirius. But I don’t think that would break up their friendship that easily.

[@Allthingsasian]

Tbh I feel like James’ mentality wasn’t out of concern for Snape but rather for Lupin and the risk of him going to Azkaban.

[@katherinkeegan8601]

I agree with you and made similar comments to another post on this site. If you give Sirius the benefit of a doubt, after realizing the possible consequences it could have been a watershed moment for him, forcing him to grow up. If I were James or Lupin, Sirius would have to work to regain my trust. As you pointed out, it does explain later motivations of the characters like: Why Lupin believed Sirius could kill Peter Why Peter was convinced that no one would work overly hard in proving Sirius innocence or believe Sirius claiming poor weak fearful Peter was really guilty of betrayal/treason. Why James would agree to change the secret keeper Why Dumbledore didn't work harder to determine if Sirius was in fact guilty. How many people have screwed up their lives/relationships due to one bad poorly conceived idea/plan?

[@katherinkeegan8601]

@@magiccloud3074 That makes a lot of sense. This is the principal of the scare straight philosophy. Make them see the consequences of their actions before they get to the point of no return.

[@katherinkeegan8601]

@@magiccloud3074 Can you imagine how he would have turned out if not for the marauders? He would never have stood a chance.

[@phosphoros3050]

Dumbledore passed that opportunity of reconciliation up when he just forced Snape into secrecy, while not only allowing James & Sirius off the hook, but letting Potter control the narrative around the story. Why else was Lily all of a sudden in awe at the usual bully James suddenly saving her friend’s life from “something that was completely his own fault”, while Snape, because of his oath of secrecy, couldn’t effectively counter that lie. Dumbledore would’ve been wiser to give the Maurauders some discipline as well as force James & Severus into some set of tasks that would require their cooperation, thus perhaps facilitating a sort of truce or peace between the two. Sure, Potter & Black were scions of famous families, but Dumbledore should have seen that Snape was a great prize to acquire for his future Order of the Phoenix, if only for his sheer magical talent, which was greater than any of the Mauraders. The Mauraders would’ve been siding with Dumbledore in that Wizarding War anyway, but Snape’s loyalty had to be won over. For someone who was supposed to be brilliant & once a peer of Grindlewald’s, this missed opportunity when Snape was a student under Dumbledore seems like a massive plot hole

[@paulyb7267]

And I'm struggling to understand how you think the werewolf incident was James's fault when he had absolutely no part in the prank. Typical James-hating Snape apologist fan.

[@WithADashOfPazazz]

​@@paulyb7267 they didn't say it was james' fault they said he was at fault for apparently spouting the narrative that snape did something stupid and james saved his life when the TRUTH was that his friend sirius almost got snape AND james for that matter killed.

[@paulyb7267]

@@WithADashOfPazazz There was no evidence that James boasted about saving Snape's life. Lily just said that she heard James saved his life, whether James actually boasted about it remains unknown.

[@maximedewel5362]

Sirius should have been straight up expelled after the werewolf incident, period.

[@denizkenger52]

And Azkaban. It’s murder. He set the whole thing up, he basically is the murderer for using Lupin as a weapon.

[@SiVlog1989]

The fact that James stopped Snape before Lupin (in werewolf form) could attack him, would be proof that even to James, Sirius had gone too far. It's one thing having a rivalry with someone, but to have their blood on your hands after a prank got out of hand, that's a step too far. Although Snape never really gave up on Lily, the damage had been done when, out of rage and humiliation at the hands of James, Sirius, Lupin and Wormtail, he call Lily a Mudblood and in essence burned bridges with her as it appears that she never forgave him, especially when he was already hanging out with those who would go on to become Death Eaters. She was right, why should she be any different, when his "friends" were going after people like her?

[@denizkenger52]

James saved Lupin, Sirius, himself and Snape that day. Consider the conclusion if it did take place. Lupin potentially goes to Azkaban for murder. If he doesn’t, since it something planned by Sirius and he did everything he could to avoid it such as go to shrieking shack, he would still have to leave hogwarts after the incident. It would ruin his friendship and trust, since his closest of friends just used his lycanthropy to murder someone. It would also make him even more insecure about himself, and if you’ve read the books, this was a major thing for him throughout, he thought of himself very badly and this would be worsened by knowing he killed Snape as a werewolf. Sirius would mist definitely go to Azkaban for setting everything up. James and Lily’s relationship wouldn’t have much chance. Lily was aware if what happened so knowing James’ friends killed Snape and James knowingly did nothing about it would change things. It may even lead to her thinking James was in on it, but all in all, this relationship would be ruined. Dumbledore could be sacked as well since he was the one who arranged for Lupin to attend Hogwarts even though he knew he was a werewolf. Therefore he took the responsibility and he would most likely be sacked for also endangering student lives and this actually leading to a death could mean he is sent to Azkaban as well since he did it without the ministry’s approval. I personally think James did know it was too far, but the reason he acted on it was not just for Snape, but to prevent the things I said above until Dumbledore, I don’t think he thought if that but definitely about his friends and himself.

[@SiVlog1989]

@@denizkenger52 Lupin wouldn't remember though, they wouldn't be able to prove he knew anything when he (hypothetically) attacked Snape, when a Werewolf transforms into their wolfish form, they no longer remember who they are

[@denizkenger52]

@@SiVlog1989 there would be investigations after Snape is missing, everyone knew about him and marauders. I’m sure after a thorough investigation plus also Dumbledore knowing about Lupin and the shrieking shack, he would most likely figure it out. I don’t think Dumbledore would hide it if Snape died. Also, i think after investigating, the ministry would due research on marauders and would find out about Lupin being a werewolf, which would draw eyes to Lupin either way, and he would most likely still be expelled for endangering student lives even if it wasn’t proved that he did it. Also, considering Dumbledore was an accomplished legilimens and it’s mentioned many times that he would look as if he was reading your mind, I believe he would probably understand what’s going in from James and Sirius. And, Sirius may admit to everything to save Lupin from going to Azkaban if the werewolf thing is enough for the ministry to hold him accountable. Also, Lupin would still know he killed someone when he transforms back to himself and there’s blood all over the floor in the shrieking shack with potentially Snape’s wand and his ripped clothes from being torn apart by a werewolf.

[@katherinkeegan8601]

@@denizkenger52 I agree with your analysis. The only thing that I question is why he would forgive Sirius? Sirius proved he couldn't be trusted. He proved he thought of no one but himself. Yes he supposedly did it for James, but he failed to take into consideration the consequences of how his actions would destroy his friendship with both James and Lupin. Frankly I am surprised this didn't put a strain on his relationship with Lupin. If I were Lupin, I am not sure I could trust Sirius anymore.

[@LindaRobbinsStraitfever]

"why should she be any different, when his "friends" were going after people like her?" -- Depends on what kind of friend Lilly really was to Severus I think. Lilly's character was not "fleshed out" for us. What kind of friend was she to him? By her words and actions she doesn't seem to be the kind of friend to Sev that he was to her. He was devoted, loved her. It's the classic story, he was not loved back. A true friend who loves in return would have put forth the effort to reach inside and pull him into the light. Give him friendship at least, the direction, the reasons, and the path he was straying toward could have been averted. She should have been different. Per the author - we know she tried a little; but too late. If she had been thinking of him and his future, and loved him, she would have given him time with her. But no, she was falling for James. ( Dang it, I was infatuated with Severus from the get go... Gee thanks J.K. Rowling.)

[@slipperyjivemonkey]

Sirius was still a black. Both his parents were Blacks - he was a Black through and through. He had his mothers temper. He had blood instability too. And it showed. What he did that night showed what he could be if he wasn’t so determined and committed to go a different way. He was in Gryffindor because he would always do the right thing but because he valued that quality.

[@MRviralClip]

Sirius would never be able to kill snape in a duel

[@denizkenger52]

Yeah he’s shown himself to be a coward.

[@prozorozo]

What, wait how could he not, also how is he a coward, he literally came to harrys rescue in the 5th book, which did end with him killed but still

[@denizkenger52]

@@prozorozo attacking 2vs1, tricking him to die against a werewolf rather than doing it himself. he was a coward in school years imo.

[@prozorozo]

@@denizkenger52 oh,yeah he was a bitch in school, I was talking adult years

[@matthewc3135]

@@prozorozo In adult years Snape was just a superior wizard in both power and skill. I'd argue Snape is only behind Dumbledore, Voldemort and Grindelwald in terms of skill and power.

[@chaci1]

Danggggg they straight tortured Snape 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@mosessaenz734]

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[@hollybrownvideos]

I always thought because they got used to being animagi, Sirius forgot that Lupin was harmful during the full moon. So instead of trying to murder Snape, it would just spook him. IDK, otherwise Sirius would be kind of unforgivable.

[@darija9873]

But then why weren't they with Lupin that full moon? Plus James would have transformed when he went to save Snape, no? I think it happened before they became Animagi

[@hollybrownvideos]

@@darija9873 lol well I guess Sirius just premeditated a murder then hahaha

[@denizkenger52]

He is unforgivable. He’s my most hated character. Even Umbridge is higher on my list.

[@denizkenger52]

Oh well he got owned by Bellatrix so it’s fine.

[@leventebardossy5962]

@@darija9873 It was AFTER they became Animagi. They learned it by their fifth year, and Snape mentions Sirius was sixteen when this happened.

[@StillTired2024]

Yeah I love Sirius but what he try to do to Snape was f#%ked up.

[@made-line7627]

I like adult Sirius. But though he had a good heart as a child, evidenced by his disdain and hatred for pure-blood ideology and the courage it took to go against his family, young Sirius was also a dick, and I really don't like him.

[@denizkenger52]

I hate Sirius. Most hated character for me.

[@Allthingsasian]

@@made-line7627 yes I love adult Sirius too, his story is very tragic but back in school I was bullied by boys like James and Sirius so I didn’t like them as kids but they grew up and matured.

[@professorsassafras]

Sirius black never matured. Even in prisoner of Azkaban he still tried to bully Snape.

[@schipperkeandcats3469]

While sirius and lupine and snape grew up and became mature i hate how they dident even feel bad for bullying snape once they became adults and realised they been just awful to snape

[@reindogfan]

Exactly! I see so many people saying how they matured and should be forgiven, but they never apologise or treat snape any better really, they just act as if nothing ever happened, like attempted murder is no big deal

[@denizkenger52]

Sirius didn’t mature.

[@Sammy.H.Redwood]

They are reason why Snape became the person he became cold and bitter, James and Sirius growing up maturely doesn’t change. The fact that they ruin someone else’s life and cause, that person became who they are hateful and mean.

[@masterclass4277]

"Harry, you attacked a teacher!!!" Dumbledore: "50 points to Gryffindor."

[@sneaksyranger]

It worked in first year too.

[@James--Parker]

Snape had it and far move coming.

[@denizkenger52]

Harry should have been expelled for that. And Ron and Hermione. In the book it was all three of them.

[@josefboroff3966]

@@denizkenger52 They only did it because Snape tried to get Sirus and Remus executed under false pretenses, as he knew the truth due to spying on the entire conversation. They tried to reason with Snape at first and only attacked him when Snape refused to listen.

[@denizkenger52]

@@josefboroff3966 no that is NEVER said. It is never stated that Snape listened to the whole convo or that he knew the truth.

[@TheLastKentuckyIrregular9524]

Sirius did try to murder him. I mean, there is no other way to look at it. He was trying to get him killed or at the very least mauled and infected. And worse, it was a thoughtless betrayal of Lupin who would've been utterly horrified had he killed Snape. Sirius, as with James, fell prey to the great weakness of the Gryffindor: blind conviction. Snape was wrong and they were right therefore their behavior was acceptable regardless of it's character. We saw this same attitude with Harry, Ron, and Dumbledore as well.

[@xnapellus]

Where is the prove that he want to kill him? Nowhere? I thought so.

[@TheLastKentuckyIrregular9524]

@xnapellus He tried to send him into a home where a rampaging werewolf lurked. Minimally, he wanted to have him turned into a werewolf. The mostly likely outcome was death.

[@thelestrangelair]

Thank you for this! I truly feel Sirius had ODD for real, and perhaps is also a sociopath. Ahthe joys of psychology. Bella L

[@maximedicare]

could you do a vid if the maroders were death eaters

[@bigfatbucketofdicks]

I love this channel😩

[@Errorvirus404]

That wasn't a prank, that was straight up attempted murder.

[@thelestrangelair]

Black and Potter should've gone to Azkaban for that. IT's nutters Lupin was still friends with them after that rot. Bella L

[@xnapellus]

Snape claimed that. But he knew what was in the tunnel before he go. He wants to see the werewolf. How is that s murderer attempt?

[@xnapellus]

You know that potter wasn't the slightest involved in the prank besides that he rescued Snape. So for what should he punished for?

[@SilverShinepony]

I wonder if Remus would've committed suicide if he infected snape, it's definitely a possibility

[@Allthingsasian]

Probably 😢 if Snape would have been bitten or worse had died, then it would have destroyed Lupin and in his darkest moments might have considered suicide, it’s a good thing it never came to that at least.

[@SilverShinepony]

@@Allthingsasian im pretty sure harry would have never been born and Neville would've been the chosen one

[@sevenwhatuknow]

I mean, he still is part of the Black family. Not surprising he'd do some dark stuff

[@ChattinBoxingWYB]

This is why Warner Bros needs to create a Marauders TV series ASAP!!! We need to see the rivalry between Snape and James on screen. Also life changing events such as, Sirius putting Snape in harms way by telling him to head to the shrieking shack. Whilst Lupin is in werewolf form, would be great to watch on television. We as Harry Potters fans would have a better understanding of why Snape hates the Marauders so much. In addition seeing the unrequited love between Lilly and Snape would be enchanting to watch as well.

[@maximedicare]

keep on doing hp vids

[@mattthesilent777RED]

Please turn this into a what-if!

[@priestessmikokikyo77]

the attempted murder on Severus is just fucked up!

[@Kageofyoutube]

Upon hearing this Snape had every reason 2 become a death eater, no if ands or butts. Snape truly is the most tragic character in Harry Potter

[@maximedicare]

i love your channel

[@Ript0ri]

Good job as always!

[@wazza316]

Great video dean thanks 😊

[@jorgecarbajal8076]

6:16 Eventually, Sirius did his time. Twelve years of it! In Azkaban! On a side note, I was slightly distracted by the background music because it reminded me of Mr Mashup.

[@MegHanSoloCup]

this is one of those things that shows just how dangerous the “boys will be boys” mentality can be 😅😅

[@somersault1123]

Werewolves aren't real.

[@MegHanSoloCup]

@@somersault1123 yeah lmao harry potter isn’t real either 😂

[@arlinesen1143]

Love your vids

[@RStartGaming1LOL]

I feel like Sirius was upset about Regulus and took it out on someone else

[@AmeliaRantall23]

Thanks for the welcome to the wizarding world but I live in it

[@supermadhawk100]

I'm not sure why but I always wanted this video thanks man! It got me carious whty Sirius trick Snape

[@made-line7627]

Snape as a werewolf. **Shudders** 🥀🫀🥀

[@DD_awsome]

After that incident, it's no wonder why Snape created Sectumsempra . We can only guess who the enemy he was referring to was, right Sirius?

[@howardlanus8467]

Was it AFTER or BEFORE the incident though? If BEFORE, then does that mean that he was planning on killing a werewolf? Would that be MURDER?

[@DD_awsome]

@@howardlanus8467 I think he was planning on using it on Sirius. But at this point who know if JK Rowling ever gonna address that.

[@howardlanus8467]

@@DD_awsome To what end? Chop off a few fingers or disfigure his face? Parts removed by that spell can't be reattached, as "Holey" George can testify.

[@DD_awsome]

@@howardlanus8467 to make him suffer. that simply

[@howardlanus8467]

@@DD_awsome Through mutilation and blood-loss?

[@leefylizness551]

I believe Snape is just misunderstood

[@anevvve6468]

I disagree. Joining the death eaters, calling his only friend by a racial slur and bullying and destroying mental health of his student when he is supposed to be an adult man, that's not about being misunderstood. Just because he cared only about Lily doesn't make him a good man. He didn't care that an innocent child is gonna be killed unless he found out that it was Lily's child.... We choose our path, we choose to be bad or good.

[@paulyb7267]

@@anevvve6468 Snape was cruel to Neville for this stupid reason: if Voldemort had chosen to go after Neville rather than Harry, Lily would still be alive. To Snape, Neville was a living reminder and representation of his guilt from revealing the prophecy to Voldemort and the potential alternative for what could've happened, and as a result, from Snape's point of view, Neville embodied all of this and that made him detest and bully him.

[@krishmajumder1411]

@@paulyb7267 That is FANON. It is NOT CANON. It is just a theory that has been taken to be canon but Rowling never confirmed this ever anyway. You are making the assumption that Snape would know Neville was the alternate boy the prophecy could be about - there is nothing to suggest he would.

[@krishmajumder1411]

@@anevvve6468 Indeed, and Snape ultimately chose to fight on the "good" side, that is what matters.

[@denizkenger52]

@@paulyb7267 Snape didn’t bully Neville.

[@paulyb7267]

How did the death eaters and their supporters react to an infant Harry Potter being responsible for Voldemort's defeat and disappearance?

[@jae5004]

He has a video called “why the wizarding world feared Harry Potter’s return” or something along the lines of that, that speaks on the subject.

[@paulyb7267]

@@jae5004 I'm actually surprised that Death Eaters (such as the torturers of the Longbottoms) didn't try to go after Harry in the aftermath of the attack on Godrics Hollow.

[@jae5004]

In addition to learning the whereabouts of Voldemort they were also searching for Harry. Frank as an Auror would’ve been a high profile member of the order to the Death Eaters. Lupin as a werewolf probably went into hiding. Sirius was in jail. Pettigrew was believed dead. Dumbledore, Hagrid, and Moody would’ve been seen as to much of a threat to take on. The only reason Snape probably went straight to GH is because he was in the Order so would’ve be let in on the secret behind the Fidellius Charm. Peter probably didn’t give the secret to any other DE just directly to Voldemort.

[@maximedicare]

maby you could do a hp quizz

[@AprilRose77]

This incident alone is probably the reason why Remus believed Sirius could have killed James. However, as someone else pointed out we have to look at Snape why were you so into destroying them. All of them provoked each other but what was Snape trying to see the marauders doing that would make him trust Sirius for a moment to be nosy. Was Sirius wrong? Of course. But was Snape acting like some creeper who just couldn’t let Lily go? Yes! He was obsessed with them and Sirius decided to do something about it but his method was wrong and premeditated murder if he got hurt.

[@MsAnemoi]

thanks for pointing this out

[@denizkenger52]

He already had suspicions about Remus and he was trying to understand why the marauders were sneaking about at certain times. Sirius is evil, remorseless and cruel. He passes of death sentence just because Snape was sticking his nose into other people’s business. He literally justifies it like this when asked about it. What Snape was doing is annoying, but punishing something like this with murder is beyond far.

[@matthewc3135]

He was so intent on destroying them because they made his life hell. So why wouldn't he attempt to get them all expelled. But also, he wasn't acting like a creeper around lily. They were still friends at this point, and after the friendship ends, we have no evidence that Snape ever spoke with her again after she rejected his apology.

[@chrisweldon3476]

@@matthewc3135 yea people kill me acting like it was a rivalry. If so it was extremely lopsided in favor of the marauders. It was literally 4 vs 1. Yet people act like snape was antagonizing them smh

[@WithADashOfPazazz]

snape wanting to get his bullies expelled isn't that suprising. but snape as per usual was minding his own business only for sirius to come in and trick him into getting himself killed. what beats me is why snape listened in the first place.

[@maikemorgenstern5358]

Thank you, Dean for this video and pointing out that some part of Sirius' personality was really selfish and careless. In the book "the order of the phoenix" there is this situation, when Harry is afraid to be expelled from Hogwarts and it seems like Sirius a kind of hoped to have Harry for company in 12 Grimmauld Place. So I didn't like the character much, but it's important to know, that I really like the actor Gary Oldman. 😅😍

[@elafal-musawi]

Yes, this incident makes me think less of Sirius and dislike him for not caring about his friend and trying to use him as a weapon. On the other hand, even though I do not like James because he was a bully, I respect his behavior. He saves Severus for his friend Lupin proving how much he cares about his friends and showing his humanity and intelligence, was a stupid move from Sirius showing his stupidity.

[@E.L.Tigre32]

It would be interesting to see a "what if Snape became a morader" where this is the moment Snape began to like James

[@leventebardossy5962]

Snape would have been a truly valuable addition in a prankster gang, with his knowledge. But I can't imagine a situation that would result in him getting friends with them.

[@katherinkeegan8601]

@@leventebardossy5962 Especially since he and James were interested in the same girl. Friendships have been destroyed for a lot less

[@phosphoros3050]

Dumbledore passed that opportunity of reconciliation up when he just forced Snape into secrecy, while not only allowing James & Sirius off the hook, but letting Potter control the narrative around the story. Why else was Lily all of a sudden in awe at the usual bully James suddenly saving her friend’s life from “something that was completely his own fault”, while Snape, because of his oath of secrecy, couldn’t effectively counter that lie. Dumbledore would’ve been wiser to give the Maurauders some discipline as well as force James & Severus into some set of tasks that would require their cooperation, thus perhaps facilitating a sort of truce or peace between the two. Sure, Potter & Black were scions of famous families, but Dumbledore should have seen that Snape was a great prize to acquire for his future Order of the Phoenix, if only for his sheer magical talent, which was greater than any of the Mauraders. The Mauraders would’ve been siding with Dumbledore in that Wizarding War anyway, but Snape’s loyalty had to be won over. For someone who was supposed to be brilliant & once a peer of Grindlewald’s, this missed opportunity when Snape was a student under Dumbledore seems like a massive plot hole

[@katherinkeegan8601]

@@phosphoros3050 Honestly Dumbledore could be full of himself at times. He admitted he made mistakes. He said since he was so smart, when he blew it the results were magnified. No problem with self worth there. This was not the only mistake he made. The Super Carlin Brothers did a series on Dumblrdore's Great Plan. They broke it down book by book. They point out the flaws/mistakes every step of the way. It's worth watching.

[@jorgnocke991]

i have one question in the world of Harry Potter can people be turned into vampires boa vampires sbcs on its own????

[@HarryPotterFolklore]

making a video on this currently

[@jorgnocke991]

@@HarryPotterFolklore thank you

[@denizkenger52]

There are vampires in the series. There was the “voyages with vampires” book Lockhart wrote, and even though he is a fraud, the stories he writes are partially true, but stories of greater wizards/witches than himself. Also, Quirrell was said to have encountered a vampire and that’s why his class always smelt of garlic, to ward off the vampire if it even came for him. And Hermione thought a certain Lollipop in honeydukes tasting like blood was on purpose, so it was a sweet for vampires. I’m guessing people can be turned into vampires in this world because they are parasitic beings, so it would be similar to werewolves. I think this will be the best bit to answer you. According to W.O.M.B.A.T.s, which is the exam, vampire bites may be incurable. This means they certainly do have an effect, and I’m guessing it’s to turn someone else into a vampire, since it goes hand in hand with a werewolf bite being nearly impossible to cure in the full moon. But unfortunately there isn’t enough information given in the topic to suggest how a person becomes a vampire, by birth or bitten or any other way. There are a few examples of vampires, more than the ones I provided, so their existence is definitely explained but how they are made isn’t explained unfortunately.

[@onlinegametime]

I wonder what would happen if all the parents were told Voldemort was heading to the school. What if all the parents came to the school to help protect their kids and fight Voldemort Army.

[@spiceboyog9083]

Harry, it’s a trap

[@VikSapphireH]

What if the Killing Snape incident was actually a rescuing Snape incident to win Lily‘s heart, that went wrong?

[@paulyb7267]

@HarryPotterFolklore, According to JK Rowling, James and Remus refused to talk to Sirius for a while after the werewolf incident.

[@TheMrMRsmoke]

Because he’s still after all this time and always, snape’s bully.

[@briesullivan883]

Sirius was totally wrong, BUT: Snape knew that Remus was likely a werewolf and yet he was going out there (to find what the Whomping Willow was guarding) anyway. And why the hell would Snape trust anything that came out of Sirius’s mouth when he knew that Sirius hated him?

[@koltayzeteny756]

This shows a different side if Sirius! Bro everyone thinks Sirius is a Saint and Snape is evil, but they do not know the backstory!

[@judelbugsrutter6727]

I listen to a lot of cult survivors' stories and see time and time again that no one cancels quite like a cult member who's still stuck in the lifestyle that another has left. Usually its the leaver that needs to fear for their lives... depending on the cult... pure bloods/dark arts types in HP world have a lot of similarities to cult members. How could you be a pureblood and not love the dark arts a lot will wonder? Sirrius' connection to bellatrix lestrange, I'm sure also played a part in the distrust of him while he was in askaban. Obliviously it was only a matter of time that his fascination with the Dark arts and pureblood surpremecy would win out... I'm sure they thought. We are all guilty of black and white thinking, but I think both Snape and Black were at f/head levels on the spectrum, and both made each other double down and stick harder to their own sides. In fact, making one another's own worst enemies. Neither had a great home life. Each blamed something as the cause muggles/pure blood mania and zeroed in on their hatred of such.

[@Crafty_Spirit]

Simple - Sirius wanted to create a Horcrux 😏

[@holly-hobbiest3141]

@harrypotterfolklore do a why snape joined the death eaters

[@made-line7627]

Good idea

[@sakuamvsog]

Well he already had an interest in the dark arts. And seeing as his best friend left him, and stuck with James, Snape “didn’t” really “have” a choice. Also the fact that most Slytherins he went to school with turned into Death Eaters.

[@horrorgamer5255]

When can I expect my Hermione dried during Battle of Department of Mystery What If

[@fjw8895]

I'm not saying what Sirius did was right, it was undoubtedly very wrong. But.... Snape knew or at least had a very strong idea that Remus was a werewolf. It was a full moon. His worse enemy tells him how to get past the tree to the place he suspects Remus is. Why would anyone sane go into a place where a transformed werewolf was? Sirius didn't drag him there. He went there of his choice. - Snape knew or at least highly suspected Remus was a werewolf. - Snape knew it was a full moon - Snape thought Remus was in the shack (having been watching Remus) - It was around the time Sirius ran way. James and co obviously quickly forgave him. Personally, I think it happened something along the lines of. Snape had been stalking Remus and constantly going at the marauders about Remus. Sirius snapped and said something along the lines of 'If you think you are so hard, why don't press the knot on the tree'. Sirius thought it amusing and would get Snape off their backs for a bit. Maybe he would even get attacked by the tree, not thinking that Snape would be stupid/ suicidal enough to actually do it. He bragged to James about it. James panicked because he knew/ thought Snape was that revengeful/suicidal enough to actually do it. We don't see the immediate aftermath. We only see the effects twelve years afterward. Both Sirius and Snape had come bitter because of the War, Lily's, James' deaths, Azkaban etc, and hatred had only increased. If Sirius had bosted about it in the immediate aftermath, I don't think the Marauders would have remained friends with Sirius.

[@WithADashOfPazazz]

remus said the only reason snape went down to the shrieking shack was because sirius told him he knew how to get past the whomping willow. snape was rightfully suspicious of the student who disappeared once a month but i highly doubt your scenario happened. mainly because every single marauder/snape interaction has had the marauders instigating first.

[@maximedicare]

or Grindelwald escaped from ascaban

[@dramaturge231]

Sobering thoughts

[@eranshachar9954]

I always hated this so called joke. I first knew movie Sirius, and I liked him. And than I read about book Sirius, that was a bad person in his school years, so does James Potter. They were both evil pieces of shit in their youth. And to find out Peter, was even worse. As explained in the POA book, Peter was team Voldemort from the very beginning, he was spying for him. Remus John Lupin, was the only truly good person in the group, and he remained so when older. That is so sham, Severus exposed him as a Werewolf, causing him to lose his job. And more sham even, when he is later killed, by the so much better than him wizard-Antonin Dolohov that scum of a killer. Even from the movies, and especially after reading the books, I am team Severus. My favorite character R.I.P. BTW I hope both Dean and Morgan, had nothing against the chosen actors for the Marauders and Severus, other than their age when appearing on screen. Because the four actors: David Thewlis (Remus) Timothy Spall (Peter) Gary Oldman (Sirius) And Alan Rickman R.I.P. (Severus) were magnificent in my eyes. Each actor nailed it in my opinion. The actors for James and Lily didn't impress me sorry.

[@danielgatford7686]

Like I said about petunias behaviour its unacceptable why anyone who isnt severely mentally I'll would do that to another person is beyond me If i was at school and knew what serius had done I would never speak to him again until much later in life if I chose to confront him about it as an adult at the end of the day the Marauders were bullys good people later in life but bullys at school I would probs have ended up in fight with james and serius at some point aswell as there behaviour was disgusting but snape was no better eventually succumbing to the pressure but u can only be pushed so far before u snap so I can see ware snape was coming from with the hatred but as an adult he was intelligent to know that letting go would have made him happier but mental health is mental health and I'm as we saw with Merope gaunt even magical people can suffer mentally

[@vivianp5962]

Jk Rowlings is the best . i wish her all the best. 📚

[@betterlatethannever4529]

How would Lily have reacted?

[@elora179]

Sirius should have gone to Azkaban if he had succeeded. This is disgusting and not funny at all.

[@xnapellus]

Snape: knowingly goes into a cave where he expects to see a werewolf to annoy Potter. After stalking the OTHERS for months and knowing exactly what was down there and just looking for a way in and literally telling the marauders what he knew and what he wanted to do Also Snape: THEY TRIED TO KILL ME!!! I'd still like to see the part where Sirius lured Snape into the tunnel. Because... Technically, he didn't. He didn't lure him anywhere. He didn't force him. He didn't deceive him. He didn't push him. Snape knew about the werewolf and wanted to see him to prove his theory about Lupin. Sirius gave him the information. So Snape goes into the tunnel expecting a werewolf. Must be rescued. And then howls about the Marauders (because he accuses them ALL of being involved) trying to kill him together. Of course, he has no proof of this. Our potion master doesn't need any anyway...

[@tylersmith9465]

Creature and Dolby vs grindawald and u know who

[@donnellhill75]

Cuz Snape got on his nerves, simple 😂😂😂

[@maximedicare]

im a supper hp fan

[@anmol2409]

The reason why SNAPE became such a powerful wizard was just because he was continuously bullied , I guess in adulthood no one apart from voldermort would even dare to duel him James would never ever try to mess him in adulthood as he resulted in such a skilful wizard

[@lawlessbritain6187]

What if Hermione was in Slytherin?

[@rukshanapanwar4353]

What if potters survives

[@denizkenger52]

Sirius is my most hated character.

[@Sammy.H.Redwood]

Me too, I don’t care when he died. All the crap that Sirius and James did too Snape, I don’t blame him having no sympathy or feelings about their death.

[@PolishAxolotl]

I finally see someone who like don't like Sirius! Yey

[@helenw7054]

Snape: almost gets killed Also snape: Are you Sirius?!?!

[@spirit-wolf-entertainment8938]

I mean I think Sirius is great character in the movies but I do think what he did yrs ago pre-existing while when he, James, Peter, Remus, & Snape we’re going to school was down-right-lame and even stupid I mean if Remus had bitten Snape he could have died or worse turning into a werewolf and it’s already bad enough for Remus that he has to go through it he has since he was age 11 and into his adult yrs I mean talk about a normal human being that’s seriously misunderstood by his true nature when it comes his transformations terrible but I think what Serious did was really lame-kid-like-behavior just completely wrong to do I think that Snape should have taken into consideration that he should have called it truths and tell James Snape: I think you’re alright but why save my neck you know I wouldn’t do the same why me. James: Because you we’re about to be killed or worse turn into one when the next moon would happen so really I would’ve felt bad if I had let you die and what serious did wasn’t okay. Snape: Yeah Amaybe so if you weren’t friends with Serious maybe I wouldn’t consider you my enemy but I know you wouldn’t take into consideration to stop being his friend so I really would care less you bullied me, tormented me, why should I care about what you did for me back there if you can’t see that Serious has a lack of safety for others when in danger then you put your hands in the wrong people to trust. James: Look Snape I did my best to get out safe I did I at least deserve a thanks. Snape: I don’t think so because you’re friends with him no one will take you serious if you keep on having friends like him putting others in danger and in harms way you don’t deserve any thanks from me. James: Look Snape I can’t just stop being his friend he’ll have no one else to go to. Snape: We’ll then all the more reason he doesn’t deserve to have friends because you can’t trust him to be safe around others or his lack of safety for others I’m done, goodbye. And James says his last words. James: I don’t you don’t care about what we do me and my friends but you should be happy you’re alive you could’ve been dead in that second if I hadn’t come in to get you out, you should be grateful but if you don’t then fine but don’t expect my friends to like you I think your good person and I feel bad sometimes when I bully you and there’s no good reason why I’ve bullied you for over a few yrs at Hogwarts which is why I’m sorry but you need to understand that it’s not all my doing it’s Serious’s but I know I shouldn’t lead from his example and I know it has hurt my reputation here and known for doing not so great things to you and I’m really sorry pls take this into account on my doing I’m very sorry Severus and I won’t do it again.

[@pitaariel1920]

I don't think Sirius was really thinking about the consequences of his "prank" . He was a very lonely boy, his family mistreated him even worse that Snape's family mistreated him. Siris was erased from the family tree, he was basically abandoned... He had very little guidance, and the rest of the Marauders were not the best example for him either (in comparison to how Ron and Hermione were a good compass to Harry) if it wasn't for the Potters he could have ended worse. Also, Sirius was murdered before he could even consider apologizing to Snape, which I think it would had happened at some point, because Sirius was already considering to became a better example for Harry as his godfather. Just please don't make Snape the innocent victim here. Did all Potterheads just forget that Snape was a bitter boy since a young age? That he resented that less talented people had good things in their lives? Did all of you forget that Snape hated the Marauders since the beginning, based on sheer prejudice? He was the one who was disrespectful to them FIRST at the Howgarts express! Since that first encounter, he dedicated his time to stalk them and tried to get them expelled. He was actively trying to harm them, he was not a innocent bullied boy. The five boys entered in a war that only James had the courage to stop before someone ended up hurt. Snape NEVER acknowledge that it was James the one who saved his life. Not the Marauders or Snape ever apologized for the bad things they did each other. As an adult he did not matured like James and Siris, he turned to the good side motivated solely by VENGEANCE for Lily's death. He enjoyed humiliating little children that he considered less valuable and he was a big hypocrite with Hermione. He always implied that Harry was famous just because he was James's son, and in the contrary, Hermione was a hard working girl, who excelled in almost every subject, she was an example of hard work and perseverance but Snape humiliated her calling her a "insufferable know-it-all" Wow... just wow.. the man that claimed that talent ad hard work are the best qualities in a person now humiliates Hermione exactly for that.

[@WithADashOfPazazz]

First of all, we know next to nothing about Snape's background so I wouldn't say Sirius' background was worse because we simply don't know. Sirius wasn't living in poverty first of all. And was Sirius really thinking about being a better example? To Harry? Where's the evidence for that? He couldn't even admit to Harry that he was sorry for being a bully. And what on earth are you talking about saying Snaoe hated the Marauders out of prejudice? THEY are the ones who start picking on HIM simply because he wanted his friend in his house. In fact, James says a line similar to Draco saying he would leave if he was in that house. That's when the dislike starts. They then proceed to call him names, insult him and trip him up and continue to bully him in the years to come. Snape wanted them expelled because they were his bullies so of course he did. And Snape never acknowledged James saving his life because Snape didn't think he did it for a noble reason, and considering James goes right back to bullying Snape after this proves his point. Besides, Snape eventually acknowledges this debt by paying him back by saving Harry in the Philosopher's Stone. He didn't turn to the good side out of vengeance, he turned to the good side because he realised his actions had put his only friend in mortal danger, not to mention her family. And a man having a life like Severus Snape doesn't exactly shock me when it turns out he's a pretty unpleasant adult and teacher. He shouldn't even be in charge of the kids but only does so because Albus Dumbledore wants his best spy close and away from Azkaban. Not to mention a convinent new Head of House for Slytherin and Potions Master. And take one guess why the Half Blood Prince who invents his own spells and disregards old textbooks innovating them, not even using them in his lessons dislikes Hermione Granger, the girl who memorises textbooks. And even he recognises her cleverness, assigning the wolf lesson so she would figure it out and telling Bellatrix and Narcissa that she was clever and only reason Harry was still breathing.

[@sakuamvsog]

Cus he was jealous Snape is by far more attractive 💀