14.8 Support Tier List/Meta Analysis - League of Legends

[@elluxury698]

Hoping for atleast a mini rework for morgana. I would love if she was more enchanter focused maybe just make it so her passive heals a nearby ally so support items can work (like milio w) then her W & passive could actually be useful.

[@danielhungerford5480]

She needs a complete rework tbh. She’s only good vs very specific engage supports which is ok, but hook champs can play around her shield CD nowadays. Tbh I don’t even think a good morg can beat a good pyke it doesn’t seem worth it. They either need to double down on her battle mage fantasy or rework her into a complete anti engage enchanter

[@horiabalta8874]

Hey. Great list. We can use an updated list of types of supports and what counters them to know better what to pick vs Hook/Enchanter/MAGE and what kind of supports can be considered good for blindpick

[@brendanmulrooney368]

I would love to see ur take on this^^^^

[@johntitor3237]

Bump

[@aanshuk]

2:18 This is actually what i had been feeling in my games, but I didn't have the words to describe it. She could do well early on, but anything else requires a good-to-great team to play off of.

[@MatBat__]

I'm having lots of success as bard tank. I recommend him as a flex pick for enchanters mains (I am a mono Janna normally) since you can incorporate almost the same style but with more health, for those games without a proper front line that you still need some utility

[@zoobean994]

what runes and build do u go?

[@MatBat__]

​@@zoobean994 Fleetfootwork + health and resistance stacking greens usually. But I go guardian into heavy burst teams. I normally rush solari, then if it's heavy AP you can go for that new MR item that gives a shield (i dont remember the name). If its heavy crit AD go for randuins, if on hit AD go for frozen heart. You can start so many crazy fights using portal and still get out alive. I recommend

[@MaryseBarbie]

I’ve been doing so good on Nami right now! I love the changes!

[@brendanmulrooney368]

Same dude nami is my babi rn

[@zualfakarmhmd2419]

build?

[@ann18o96]

Morgana remains a great situational pick for me in low elo. But generally I guess you're right. They just don't really know how to play against her

[@MrHaMooDi000]

as an OTP Swain. Swain only great against engage champs. You should pick him only as a counter pick.

[@Miller1107]

Yummi is getting a prestige skin in the event following MSI, but she’s D tier. Feels bad.

[@ren_9353]

I might be one of the only people in this game, but I honestly wish they made Yuumi actually playable again. I wouldn't mind if they reworked her to make it possible, but I'm honestly sad that she's so useless right now.

[@fritztraubeneiche3395]

My favorite blindpick in the iron/bronze hell is Maokai support. Try swain support with aftershock runes and lifedwell thats the way to make him tanky 1st a mana-ap item then a tanky item

[@TapeMonki]

Can you elaborate on Nautilus' allocation to B tier while the other hook champs are in S?

[@ezpac]

good takes as usual, keep up the content boss🙏

[@ederofempires8793]

The problem with swain supp comes mostly down to people trying to build him ap, like they would in mid. but now you are just behind in lvls and gold, which means you die before your leech can make a big difference and all the ap you got does nothing, once your dead. It's key to build supp-swain more like a tank , so you can actually go into the fight, stay relevant and use your selfheal. Of course you deal low dmg this way, but the whole idea is to get rylais/abyssal mask into action and to peel for your backline. ideally you also shouldn't be the one hard engaging, but be between front and backline. when you are mid-swain it's rly good to run straight into the enemy team, taking their burst only to hourglas, get out and snack the souls that dropped from the enemies your mates cleaned up. But as supp-swain you don't got money for hourglas, so don't do it. boots--> Rylais--> ninja/merc --> abyssal/jak'sho/thornmail depending on enemy comp. randuins against heavy crit-champs and most definetly solstice, not zaz'zak. grasp/conquerer/glacial can all work depending on match up, but always get ultimate hunter. Also ghost>flash. ignite vs heal, but exhaust can also be insanly good, again depending on match up, so think about it.

[@DolRebus]

Agree. I had a lot of success with Glacial swain support. Rylai into tank. Even going nimbus cloak/celerity secondary runes if enemies are very mobile or font of life/overgrowth if they are melee.

[@JourneyWithMe93]

Please include Galio in your next tier list - he's very underrated after all of his recent buffs!

[@ShoDesu]

def should've included galio

[@itchyballsl]

finally someone putting tahm supp above F tier and skarner is good counter to tanks like rell, alistar, rakan

[@Pissandra_0.0]

Rakan isnt tank but yeah, skarner is pretty good rn as support its just people first time playing him makes him being at negative wr

[@glargle]

@@Pissandra_0.0 rakan is a tank what

[@fredartchannel7508]

@@glargle you can build him like a tank, but he inherently ain‘t a tank.

[@Shizumu1]

​@@glargle rakan is an enchanter thats tanky

[@eliserss]

@@Shizumu1 he's tanky compared to other enchanters, but that doesn't make him a tank

[@Naga_Hiide]

love your vid, I get to master thanks to you. All the best, Sho.

[@ShoDesu]

Congrats!!

[@skripd]

This is a very nice analysis, Mr. Yung Sandwich ♥

[@Ressi_TV]

More Shodesu🎉

[@emranao]

Win lane lose game IS THE DEFINITION OF KARMA. That happens in my most of Karma games lol

[@michaelbrauner]

Hm. I need a low Elo tier list for support. If I play support and rely on my ADC, then half of the games are lost from the start. Janna just makes zero sense in bronze/silver. However strong she may be if you have teammates.

[@ibrah1mm]

Can you please make a support guide about what is best to do after laning phase? I tend to win lane every game but so many times my team has horrible macro, takes bad teamfights and ignores major objectives! Thank you for your content.

[@yassenredwan8297]

If you don't play mage sup, you are done. Mage sup can scale and carry game (not 1 v 9) but if I have at least 1 good team mate someone like Brand would make a huge difference in the late game. Off course you can go with Tarek / braum or even pyke but you want have such impact like Brand for example.

[@Xanth00]

@@yassenredwan8297 imo, this is not a very good take. mage sup are not that impactful since they lack of gold with the recent nerf, and i honestly think if you want to carry in this way just play mid and enjoy having golds to get more impact to carry low elo games the best thing to do is to take playmaking heavy cc champs than can roam a lot and impact all the map, which makes you less reliant on your adc's perf. id advise to play rakan/bard/thresh/nautilus/camille/poppy, anything that can be anoying for enemy laners and junglers. plus roaming is going to be a way better with grubs buff this is ofc my personnal opinion and depend of your playstyle but i really feel it like it. your job as a support is to be pain in the ass for the whole ennemy team and not only their botlane

[@ShoDesu]

check out my mid/late game guide! kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKrXiWZ7eNOpsKc

[@paulpontoizeau8877]

It is funny how nobody is speaking about Braum being super OP. Good for me ig

[@coucousalut6528]

hey, what do you think about mordekaiser support ?

[@Omegateck16]

Still no galio support..my man hes been getting some decent buffs..at least have him in C or B lol

[@mataskacinskas675]

What about rumble? Still a strong lane bully, doesn't need many items, spikes hard on liandries.

I swear its completely unrelated to this tierlist that i only play Janna, Rakan and Thresh

[@Bensiano96]

Maokai any good? ive climb to plat with it

[@coryhenshaw2462]

I disagree about Karma, I think her scaling is underrated with how massive the Mantra Shields are with moonstone double dipping on the spread shield. Try it. I'm only low masters in NA but I find that it scales surprisingly well even in comparison to other enchanters. Moonstone + Redemption 1 - 2 items, aery revitalize font of life...either gathering or scorch depending on lane.

[@pepperonigawd]

So, basically a worse Sona

[@lore_wa]

Crabby boy in A tier! Yes!

[@Test-iv4pm]

Any merit to Galio? I see Galio Support with some really good stats in Master+

[@ShoDesu]

Galio support looks really promising, will add him on the next list

[@angelbandicoot5687]

How about a support item tier list

[@Leblanczerosixnine]

LeBlanc Support is OP.

[@Alabalahama]

No zac support?

[@Sebastian-rw2tz]

Q damage skarner is insane , they need nerf (to support )

[@Ergilmus]

Where's my Annie support at

[@cmonijustneedaname]

Not enough Ivern.

[@ShoDesu]

I love ivern jungle!

[@goldensea03idk51]

Hwei in C Sadge

[@minicastle9944]

Galio?

[@juliakassadin]

hey guys just wanted to let you know don't listen to this tier list all champions you pick are insanely op in support role because the role is broken inherently just saved u 5 minutes of this low masters player speaking!

[@naranciabutnotfromjojo2314]

Calm down man what hurt you

[@juliakassadin]

@@naranciabutnotfromjojo2314 support role exisiting in its current state for as long as it has!!!!

[@uckhaiong2093]

Janna is trash champion

[@Danaani]

thoughts about janna changes

[@sultanblooki820]

Damn what are the changes?? Are they gonna nerf janna?

[@Danaani]

@@sultanblooki820 yeah nerf W and buff shield

[@sultanblooki820]

@@Danaani im sad they r nerfing her W cause that shit was fun u just keep spamming 🤣