Shooting Standards with the Gear You Own | Basic Drills for EDC, Home Defense and Night Vision

[@CP_Tacti]

A plea from a Paramedic here: If you buy a tourniquet to practice with, I cannot stress to you enough that you need to buy two. One for training, one for real use. Each time they are used they lose efficacy and it increases the risk of them failing when you need them. Please buy two.

[@zacharymiller5690]

Says right on the package it’s only good for one application!

[@rickyv3911]

Wow did not know that..thank you for the info

[@TJ-bg4fw]

Why buy two, when you can buy five

[@krisstac2000]

And dont buy fake ones!!!

[@dailydrivensvt8724]

whta ive seen is a fake one for training and north american rescue for real use

[@grogdizzy5814]

Been reading 'The Guerrilla's Guide to the Baofeng Radio' recently and there is a great line in the introduction. "the guerrilla, the dissident, the political activist, must arm himself with what he has rather than what he wished he had." Train with what you have people. Don't wait until you collect your dream setup. Most of us aren't rich like this youtuber. You don't need all of the top of the line gucci gear. proficiency beats price every time.

[@barriocrusader]

Reading that book also.. gotta get my grms license (tax)

[@admiralsnackbar2811]

​@barriocrusader forget the license. Unlock a HAM baofeng and program the GMRS/FRS and MURS channels. Use the GMRS/FRS channels for the range and general purpose. No one cares. Don't use any HAM frequencies or any repeaters unless it's an emergency. You should have the common HAM "calling bands" saved in your channels as well as the global distress frequency. Get your local EMS, fire and police frequencies for monitoring happenings. Set all other channels to "skip" so the radio only scans emergency services. Oh and NOAA weather.

[@paladin556]

​@@admiralsnackbar2811don't forget the license. As far as the government goes, yeah OK. But remember that the repeaters are privately owned and most owners like for you to ask permission to use their repeater and want to know your license call sign. Its just respect for the repeater owner.

[@admiralsnackbar2811]

@paladin556 nope. I have no interest in chit chatting with boomers about radio equipment. I have even less interest in paying a tax to have permission from the gubmint to do so. I'll stick to FRS/GMRS and MURS simplex channels for all my real world needs. If the SHTF I have the repeater channels and the whole range of HAM bands at my disposal.

[@paladin556]

@@admiralsnackbar2811 we have been talking about gmrs license you nitwit. Most of the ham boomer don't even know what gmrs is.

[@StevePeterson13]

What I like best about these shooting standards is that y’all aren’t afraid to show misses. It’s realistic versus internet BS! 👍🏻

[@Thergood]

Highly recommend Ian's Rune Nation cold start for each range trip. No staging, no practice draws, just run what you brung with your concealed setup, concealed ammo, etc. Get to the range, setup the target, hit the timer, and let it rip. Write your time on the target and jam it in your range bag so you can track improvement over time.

[@garrettharkins7558]

Theres exactly zero chance I'm shooting 12 rounds of carry ammo for the same cost as 120 rounds of range ammo every time I go to the range lol

[@welderdude1]

​@@garrettharkins7558better do it at least a few times to confirm zero and recoil impulse. Yes it is expensive but it is important especially because this is your carry rig that may be used to put down a threat to save life.

[@FishFind3000]

⁠@@garrettharkins7558not sure where your buying your ammo but it’s sounds like your carry ammo is extra expensive and your range ammo is extra cheap. For me it’s 4:1 range ammo to carry. I did get a deal for 50% off so I can do some practice at only 50cents a round. So now it’s 2:1.

[@garrettharkins7558]

@@FishFind3000 carry ammo is about a buck a round, I guess perhaps it's a little cheaper, I really don't keep much track. Reloads are about 10 / round, maybe slightly more depending on the bullet

[@pawncze]

​@@garrettharkins7558 I carry S&B XRG. Those are 22CZK (cca.1USD). and practice with reloads worth 5CZK (cca. 0.22USD). So... I will not shoot my carry ammo for practice drill either. On the other hand I would reccomend to shoot couple of mags with Your carry ammo to see if it is working OK.

[@wtdconcepts]

Love the ethos of the video. Firearm training isn’t the end all be all. Be financially stable, be prepped and meet the standard.

[@llndmsn998]

I've been consistently watching KZbin for 14 yrs now. I've seen tons of creators in the space I watch talk about people being unsubscribed randomly, and until now I was relatively skeptical of it. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I was already subscribed to yall, and right now, when going to like this video, I realized that it said I wasn't subscribed. I definitely hit that button again. Keep up the great work!

[@CertifiedSunset]

I've been watching youtube since it started, and I can confirm that youtube does unsub you from some channels.

[@ethanspringer8190]

I really like this video. You guys showed some awesome base standards that are realistic for average EDC guys to shoot for. Thanks for all you guys do!!!

[@falconclaw_]

Nice drills to try out. For an advanced drill I would recommend something that involves manipulating the different functions on your lasers and lights for when there you have highly varying light conditions. One that I like the most is have you buddy call out how you engage the target example: passive aim(with NODs)/active aim(with NODs)/white light/vis laser/peeking under your NODs etc. to get reps in on switching from one condition to the other.

[@Puddin127]

Honestly HUGE props to a company like factor meals sponsoring this channel. Most companies that size would be afraid to 😂

[@danielsaxon2206]

I’ve always thought that if you had your own range, run a drill where you lay down on a cot in whatever you sleep in, and when the timer starts get up, get your gun out from under a pile of underwear in a drawer next to you, and shoot. Bonus points at night and if you actually fell asleep.

[@NickJonesFilms]

😂😂 not bad

[@robcarr3251]

You should watch Paul Harrell

[@jhutch1470]

What if your underwear is old, and the same color as your FDE pistol?

[@danielsaxon2206]

@@jhutch1470 hopefully you get at least one new pack if Hanes for Christmas.

[@jhutch1470]

@@danielsaxon2206 You're not the only one hoping. Earth tones went out of style years ago.

[@Unknown-cq1km]

Great video! Love that y’all put the drill on the screen so I can write it down and try it next time I go shoot. Video was good and to the point and not to much fluff just straight training!

[@2adavid88]

I love this type of content! I had a notebook and pen out writing stuff down for my next range sessions. Also, very fun to watch I might add. I absolutely love what you guys are doing. Thank you!

[@Thoraxe0987]

This is the stuff I need. I keep watching gear and gun videos. Buying kit. But I never use any of it. I need to get out there and try these drills

[@bwatkins1223]

Great video! From my rifle courses, I found transitioning, especially at close range, can be difficult. For me, the closer I get to the target, the more difficult it was to make the choice to transition to pistol. Seems weird, but when the rifle says no, it was a mind game to go to my backup the closer I got to the target. Everyone finds issues while training, which is why training is so important.

[@musician445]

I got a chance to take a class from Ripcord a while back. Steve and his crew are damn good shooters, good teachers, and it was a great learning experience.

[@Watchdog_UFOtestpilot]

I’m just glad that everyone is training to hit center of body armor. That way, if we end up on opposite sides I have a better chance. I’m still not sure if I’m going to shoot for the legs, or take a double-barreled shotgun out on the deck and fire two blasts. Ok, but seriously, thanks for putting the content out there. Stay sharp.

[@ezk9026]

Great video all, love these drills and range videos. Night shots awesome looking. Merry Christmas!

[@glocksundgeworfenheit_]

Wow I don't think I learned a thing in this video, but it sure made you and your buddies look cool 👍

[@ricky2699]

why was this so hilarious 🤣

[@ethanmitchell3439]

Awesome video! Gave me a few standards to improve on. Thanks guys!

[@melvinhowell5469]

Many thanks to both of you...great drills...Merry Christmas!

[@NotHunterCooper]

Now is a great time of the year for us north of the Mason Dixon line to test out moving around with gear on for extended distances. A full plate carrier totally dissappears under a winter jacket and can be worn walking the dog (etc.) without the neighbors freaking out

[@techjutsu4066]

Fantastic video fellas thoroughly enjoyed it !!!

[@marktechsci]

In regards to practicing. People tend to practice what they are good at, cause it’s fun. You should always use what I call the inverse pyramid to practice what you are the worst at, once that thing isn’t the worst, practice the next thing. When I started playing Hockey in N California it was new to the state. I quickly realized people can’t skate backwards and can’t do reverse cross overs. I practiced those over and over and even though I mostly sucked, I became a valuable (in relation to my teammates, we were all noons) defenseman.

[@Beefcakes9000]

You’re doin awesome work brotha keep it up🫡

[@MaxDickings]

A little something to consider when it comes to putting TQ's on, you might not have a compliant limb. That is to say, it is possible you may not be able to support any weight on your injured leg as you apply it, you may not be able to lift your arm to get it over your hand or tuck the TQ into your arm pit so you can pull the tail tight etc.

[@havoctwoone]

Fantastic video as always guys. Drew, I about freakin died at the napoleon dynamite reference

[@optipwr40]

Great video guys

[@krisstac2000]

Copy paste drill for you guys. Don't forget to watch full video so you will understand this training and be able to modify it!! Body means A zone. Pistol Cold start - 5 yards 3 shot to A zone - 2s  20 yards 3x Body 2x Head - 6s Med  TQ drill Apply TQ - 30s Friend can put sticker where you were shot and then you apply TQ Rifle  Home defense - greatest distance you can identify enemy in your house (ex. 16yards) 3 shots - 2s Now cut this distance in half. 1 shot, headbox - 1s  Dead rifle transition to pistol- 7 yards Starting with empty and with dead trigger rifle pointed at target. At bip you take dead shoot and then transition. 3 shots to body, 2 shots to head - 3s Then you will change mag in your pistol, holster it, grab rifle, change mag in rifle and now fire 2 rounds to head. - 10s (don’t forget not to throw away full mags on the ground like some cops do!!) Movement in Kit  3 to 50 yards run Start at 3 yards. Rifle 3 to head. Sprint to 50 yd, from a knee 3 rounds to body. Reload, prone 3 rounds to body. - 25s Bonus  Extra nvg drill - 2 targets 10 yards away and 5 yards apart. In front of first one. 2x body first target, 2x body second one, 2x head second one, 2x head first one. Now move in front of second one and shoot same as before but starting from shooting second target.

[@effeojnedib7208]

Great video ! Just subscribed.

[@BinaryPun]

Love this! +10 points for the Shoshone arrow heads. What multicam jacket is that?!

[@willsamuel6750]

@Dirty Civilian great shooting, that’s very fast. But you HAVE to slow down when you’re reholstering. You’re gonna blow your balls off. The draw should be rapid, but the reholster should be slow, deliberate, and you should watch it go into the holster

[@rrr3r2]

Just bought a timer this summer for stuff like this

[@controvercc1098]

The Napoleon Dynamite impresssions great. We used to crack tf up saying the farmers line 🤣🤣🤣

[@g.barrett8410]

Great vid guys, super well done. Question, what the heck is that pistol grip on Steve's AR, I have never seen it before????

[@JohnDoe-mt8rf]

I remember doing some of this 20 years ago.

[@gabe4131]

Great content. Thank you gents

[@AllHazardsRescue]

This was a great video!

[@copperandbrass]

Very cool! Could you maybe provide a pdf with all drills and standards? Would help a lot! Warm regards from Germany

[@zplitterz]

Watch the videos, write down the details

[@rouchenelvann]

I love it here 🫡🦾

[@seniortac4175]

Great Video! VERY realistic type of training. Now for a couple of opinionated suggestions. Love the cold start drills, we ALWAYS go from COLD! The only thing I'd add to any of the rifle / pistol stuff.....add in movement! Shoot and move! Shoot from odd positions, around corners, etc. Be a realistic as possible! Add in failure drills for both weapons! TQ drills...nice touch! Buy crappy amazon practice TQs for training. BUY GOOD ONES for REAL use! Use other shooters as patients that have been hit!!!!!! 30 sec is a very good time hack! I personally carried 4 TQs on my kit - 2 on the front and - 2 on my belt, plus one on my buttstock! Also had 4 more in pack!!!! All my vehicles have 3 TQ minimum along with IFAKS! Home defense inside the home will be STUPID LOUD without suppressors on rifles, pistols are very brutal as well. Just be aware for newer shooters!!!!!! And final opinion. Targets. We use 6" steel plates at distances past 10M and for up close we use 6" paper plates. If you can hit 6" at any distance accurately both stationary and moving, you'll have zero issues!

[@michaeljohn4687]

Unpopular opinion that could get me flamed lol, hunting should be a part of your preparation plan because eventually you’ll run out of stored food and you’ll have to find a way to get more and the best way to do that is to know how to hunt, and not the on private property type but out in the mountains and tracking the animal type, you’ll learn tracking and food preservation without it being done for you

[@dillonmills333]

This is a valid point! Remember to go for the vegans first they are organic and grass fed. 😂 Happy hunting!

[@michaeljohn4687]

@@dillonmills333 😂 vegans are the best tasting

[@komwom]

More unpopular opinion, spend twice as much time on agriculture because there will be a million people suddenly running around competing for a few hundred thousand deer

[@michaeljohn4687]

@@komwom true, even better, combine both aspects to have an even better chance

[@CertifiedSunset]

Good point, but I suggets learning how to grow your own food before prioritizing hunting. If you have a good setup with minimal land you can farm year round, hunting highly dpends on landscape, location, population of animals etc. It's really easy to overhunt and kill all the deer and rabbits in an area if everybody goes hunting at the same time. Learning to farm and make your own food reduces overall total risk and provides essential nutrients you need to survive.

[@santanagamingcinema]

Can you guy post some time & accuracy standards for .308 battle rifles? I predominantly shoot battle rifles unless I'm shooting under night vision.

[@niklaskoch4931]

You guys are not looking down when reholstering, especially in the first minutes during that iwb scene. that‘s really just hoping for an ND.

[@eagerweevil6221]

Why is there problem with that maybe getting the trigger caught up on something? if your fingers off the trigger when you reholster, you shouldn't have a danger, tho genuinely curious ive herd this a couple of times about IWB carry

[@niklaskoch4931]

⁠@@eagerweevil6221It‘s not about the trigger, it‘s about pretty much anything else. Beltloops, pieces of fabric, thick loose seams or maybe even your underpants crawling up during walking and now hanging over the opening of your holster. Basically, most off, or at least a large percentage of ND‘s happen due to something else than your finger being in the way of your trigger when putting the gun back, instead of when pulling it out. That‘s why it‘s taught to always look into your holster and reholster slowly. And on top there‘s simply never a need to reholster fast since you engaged the target already imho. This stuff here is downright dangerous and just looks cool on video. Shouldn‘t be on an educational channel this size.

[@matthewmartin9313]

I love your videos. Great topic

[@jacobspurrell7735]

That zero gravity mount is HOTTT

[@welderdude1]

Crazy how lifting up your shirt adds almost a second to your draw-shoot times. I run appendix with a similar setup.

[@grogdizzy5814]

I run 3 o'clock because it's more concealable, more comfortable and accessible when seated, and I don't want to shoot my D off by accident lol.

[@jhutch1470]

I skip the shirt, but wear the target pasties.

[@welderdude1]

@@jhutch1470 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@hurpaderpp]

You guys should check out those rapid deployment tourniquets if you havent already

[@pawncze]

Very goood! Q for everybody here.... do You check Your holster before You put gun back in? I do... just in case something gets into holster. It's a good habit imho.

[@YouveBeenMiddled]

It's not odd, it's smart. There's no race to re-holster.

[@pawncze]

@@YouveBeenMiddled I made a typo. I wanted to write: good habit.

[@dougearl742]

Great video!

[@dynamicsolutions5712]

Great video! Keep up on the great content!

[@sdpy15]

A jack of all trades is a master of none, but will always kick a** of the master of one. The wise words I have lived by: "don't waste your life becoming a professional in one thing, rather become proficient in everything."

[@squidwardo7074]

you should do a video on shooting in more realistic environments. like up/down steep hills and cliffs, from the tops of trees and buildings, using the natural environment as a rest, etc. I've been out with a few hunters who could shoot 1 moa on a flat range no problem but struggle once they gotta rest on a tree limb while shooting 40 degrees up a hill after hiking for a few hours in the freezing rain

[@qh4007]

Im buying tourniquets for all my peeps. Great video. How many training days is this video?

[@SubBubz]

I'm not sure how fast you'll bleed out from an arm or leg wound, but I've seen it happen as quickly as 15 seconds from the neck. I'd imagine it's a little slower from the leg or arm, so 30 seconds seems good. Man, not many people could get shot, keep their head together push through the pain to get a tourniquet on in 30 seconds. Not to mention the slipperyness of the bl00d. Don't think I could. Between the shock and difficulties that could arise I'd need assistance lol.

[@Nibby802]

Any massive hemorrhage can last anywhere from 1 minute to 5 minutes. Most CLS classes I’ve been to say 3 minutes but you only have 30 seconds to get that TQ on because the casualty could have other injuries sustained following the march paws method.

[@rytoma]

Nice drills

[@practicepractice5719]

Could you PLEASE tell me what multicam jacket you are wearing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please. !!!!!

[@arbyssauce]

Accepting Charlies, Deltas, and even misses is mandatory if you want to learn to go faster.

[@showtime1235]

i wish i had property enough to train like this for me it’s just indoor ranges and dry firing

[@mrshort2379]

in my opinion Ripcord makes the best rail on the market, (just not for a poor)

[@gavinsloma]

It’s my belief that drills should always be ran as fast as you can. You never have six seconds to Mozambique somebody.

[@brandongill7125]

The fact he didn’t get the Napoleon Dynamite reference hurt my soul 😩😩

[@Jcuzz88]

Remember kids whenever applying a TQ when you think it's tight the windlass says one more turn

[@heinzwettengl2341]

Where did you guys get those sweet jackets

[@fowlfever2243]

These guys are literally giving you content to be a badass mf. Love it! Keep it coming!

[@savvycivvy5644]

What is that grip Steve is rockin'?

[@BernardRoman27]

what eye protection brand are you gents running?

[@comfortablyunknown700]

What happened to uploading on RUM?

[@Adi-z6g7v]

Love Napoleon D.

[@robertpyssa3333]

Finally! I've been commenting on various channels with this question "what's decent shooting". Get decent. Focus on other stuff.

[@yahusrevus]

Nice vid. Hey, can I get that trail mix though?

[@ammoisking]

Which TQ is that? Looks minimalist. 6:06

[@BrandonHerring-g2b]

What was that brand tourniquet

[@EBB47]

STEEeeeeve!

[@shawno3681]

Curious what the camo jacket is.... looks nice..

[@NickJonesFilms]

Vertx. I don’t think I they make it anymore.

[@tomquirin4231]

hi there , great vid n knowledge , i will always n faithfully support you 1 million % , as a u.s. marine vet here 93' to 97' active i will forever protect our rights n freedoms , talk soon > tom !

[@romelohdz]

I watch GI Joe still and there’s a character called Ripcord who is the HALO insertion expert for the Joes

[@internetexpert8153]

do you guys still work for trex?

[@justsnuggle]

25 yd straight line view in your house. Well, Good on you.

[@Supremebean303]

This the shit garand thumb needs to do more of. Subscribed.

[@jasondubois3399]

Back in the days when I was going through EMT training we would apply tourniquets to others. And later on when I was doing law enforcement training, that prior experience actually gave me an edge in applying tourniquets, and I actually won an interdepartmental challenge for applying one quickly. We typically wouldn’t crank one down tight enough to cut off circulation if we were just in training. No real benefit to hurting your limbs like that, especially not doing it over and over.

[@llndmsn998]

I agree, repeated applications of tourniquets to realistic pressure would probably be a bad idea, but doing it once or twice so civilians that don't do it very often understand the pressure needed is essential.

[@duncanstoner9476]

As a TCCC instructor I've had hundreds of TQs applied to full tightness and I've got no permanent damage of any kind from it.

[@Nibby802]

Longest TQ applied to someone’s leg was around 20 hours man. After a while with a TQ one you get “used” to the pain by going into shock since you were bleeding out. Train with full tightness every time so it’s muscle memory to be all the way right when the time comes to do so. Tough realistic training is what wins the situations.

[@ShootingUtah]

I'm never going to get used to the LEGO optic!

[@tforest949]

What jacket is that?

[@danielgodismyjudge]

LAS IS NOT IN DISCRIPTION

[@ryanchoat7248]

Do you just run your gun over gassed with suppressed so it’ll function also non suppressed

[@rrr3r2]

Yes

[@jackhawk8952]

I hate commenting because nobody takes information properly without stupid comments back... But anyways when training it's a better idea to practice face and neck shot's because body armor is everywhere and our future enemies will definitely be wearing it so body shot's on a target wearing armor means you loose... Just my two cents...

[@kknn-s2h]

what about pelvis? Good expansion because of water, pelvic girdle damage makes moving difficult.

[@ethanmitchell3439]

Gut shots too

[@jamesmartin2814]

Pelvis is a great place too. Very hard to stop bleeding in the pelvic girdle.

[@Thergood]

Pelvic girdle and headshots definitely good to practice. They do a little bit of it in the video. For concealed carry I would still focus the majority of training on upper thoracic, center mass, whatever you want to call it.

[@dirty-civilian]

Yea, we hear ya. At the end of the day though, it comes down to putting rounds where you want them. You can practice headshots all day but it’s still a refined shape and size.

[@ralphdog431]

He went back for the trail mix😂

[@jhutch1470]

You know he did.

[@SeanCowie-p1y]

Putting your live firearm back in your holster without tracking the muzzle is Wild your guy is smart he watches himself put that gun back. good way to shoot your junk train in every thing else but when you get a sigsw you’ll probably start watching your reholster just my opinion

[@NickJonesFilms]

Just don’t get a Sig😉

[@Dero_milsurp]

Typical ACKCHUALLLLYYY commenter. Guess what, if your finger isnt on the trigger the gun wont fire.

[@spencercupit]

Is everyone in TN?I need to move back.

[@Nottherealalex]

If you’re gonna use tourniquets in training, have designated training ones. Don’t be cranking them in training and carrying them after it’s been torqued down.

[@threat2demoracy5454]

If you carry a med kit, I suggest getting Naloxone for EDC. I've lost a good friend, Aunt, and Cousin all this year from that G.Floyd Killa aka Fytenal. There is a new one 43x more potent than Fyt called Nitazenes. I hear they are putting it in weed! I promise your life matters and I pray for all struggling from addiction. Godspeed & God Bless! Stay frosty! 👍🏻🤙🏼✌🏼

[@robertwallace4515]

This is why you buy from a dispensery. If you are buying black market then more than likely you are indirectly funding cartel operations

[@threat2demoracy5454]

@@robertwallace4515 Wth.. black market? Fed boi vibes.

[@ytty5183]

It's God's will. 🤔

[@robertwallace4515]

@tyrannicalthoughtpolice1289 not even close. Im telling you to buy from a dispensery so you dont indirectly fund cartel operations or end up with something laced with fentynol and you call me a fed boi, that makes no sense.

[@threat2demoracy5454]

@@robertwallace4515 Chillax man. It didn't make sense. You're talking about buying weed from a dispensary. See context matters. But not all states have dispensaries for bud. I thought you were saying by getting Naloxone you were funding cartels. Maybe I just read it wrong. My apologies.

[@adamjohnson6137]

Late to the video... Also not to experienced. But why do you train putting your pistol mag in the dump pouch? Seems like it's super slow and makes you a sitting target. But this is why I'm asking... You know... For a friend

[@ginger2770]

Mag retention is mandatory, if you need to shoot and move you'll be more of a sitting target scouring the ground for your mags. In a shtf/wrol situation you might not be able to get more mags, so keep them, you'll probably need them.

[@adamjohnson6137]

Thanks for the info!

[@snowboarder107]

Are you running a parallel zero on your laser?

[@jhutch1470]

I hope so, you're supposed to.

[@snowboarder107]

@@jhutch1470 says who, you? Theres a parallel or converging

[@N6578h]

Do your elbows not extend

[@trainedhands]

Watching that 50yrd drill has me convinced Josh is from Wales; a Welshman, from Wales. Not the animal @dirtycivilian

[@brianbennett1136]

Why wouldn't you just drop the pistol mag when trying to go back to rifle? It'll make for a quicker shot

[@YouveBeenMiddled]

Firstly, it's a tactical reload so you're keeping those leftover rounds. Secondly, it would be faster to just drop the pistol entirely but that's not the skill we're measuring here.

[@loganwykstra7922]

Monkie together stronk

[@none6456]

Travis Haley sent me.

[@Heatheninks]

Napoleon !!

[@rudyvazquez8230]

🙏🏼

[@RipperYou]

Given the ever growing risk of engaging enemies/opponents wearing lvl 4 plate carriers why not train to hit the pelvic aerea where there are large blood vessels and where the femur attaches to the pelvic bone? any hit there provides a high chance of instant immobilizing damage and exsanguinating haemorrhaging catastrophic damage

[@Nibby802]

Or just practice a bill drill center mass. 6 fucking shots in an anus size grouping will crack your plates no matter it steel or ceramic. You will be dead. The standard imo should be from 1m to 25, hit that bill drill in 3 seconds max, then work from there. Keep solid cadence between shots and have good trigger prep.