Shooting the Uberti 1873 44-40 lever action Winchester to 300 meters

[@kingadaroad6595]

Whoa Pardner, You stated that the 44-40 is a pistol cartridge and you are mistaken, the 44-40 was introduced along with the Winchester Model 1873 in 1873. Colt did not begin cambering this cartridge in pistols until a much later date. The 44-40 Cartridge is a Rifle Cartridge that was later adapted to pistols!

[@capandball]

Thanks to all of you for the good words. I really appreciate your kindness!

[@mattsheed9671]

I like and enjoy your video's and the history is very interesting to. I can tell that you do a lot off research and put a huge effort into your work.

[@capandball]

Matt Sheed Thanks Matt!

[@mrsoliton]

***** Mister you have fine videos ,can you tell where you bought a Henry sight for 1873 lever rifle ,because I can not find it . Many thanks

[@capandball]

tony montana Tony, I ordered it from Uberti as a spare part.

[@charlie1571]

I really enjoy your videos. I have been shooting black powder for almost 40 yrs. But watching you I learn something new all the time. I am a veteran of Viet Nam and I never lost interest in firearms. My love is antique black powder arms which I have a few. Stay with it. I love you videos. One last question, Where are you from?

[@Salpeteroxid]

Your videos are so relaxing yet full of great content! Congratz to the 3 million views!

[@MarcosCaminante]

The greatest channel on all of KZbin. I recently purchased an Uberti 1873 Sporting Rifle. Your videos over the last couple of years have really encouraged me and my spending as to which rifles I have added and will add to my collection. Thank you.

[@1957Shep]

Congrats on hitting 3 million views.

[@samuelpatrick5050]

i loved when you said, if i die before i sell it, put it in my coffin thats how i feel with the cz527 7.62x39

[@alanfox4055]

The 1873 was not only designed to shoot out to 300 meters but according to the 1875 Winchester catalog it was designed to shoot to 600 yards. Quote " The theory with which the Winchester Repeating Rifle has been constructed is, to produce an arm effective and accurate at all practicable ranges, up to 500 to 600 yards,". Thanks for the video, enjoyed it.

[@colinbell6461]

I bought a .357 Uberti 1873, after watching lots of videos. Always enjoyed your videos the best. Its a beautiful rifle.

[@redtra236]

seems kind of odd to get an otherwise very accurate reproduction of an 1873 Winchester in a cartridge that wasn't invented until the 1930s lol

[@NeptuneBluez]

Thank you to you for uploading such quality videos. Keep up the good work!

[@pommel47]

The Uberti lever rifles(Henry, 1866, 1873) are wonderful rifles to shoot. Very accurate in .44-40 Black or Smokeless. I use .429 wheel weight hardness with smokeless. The slightly necked brass case fits so well in the chamber that there is never any blowback of residue on the case neck. I believe the .44-40 is more accurate than .45 Long Colt. The case hardened steel frame is beautiful. I have only fired mine at a maximum distance of 200 meters. You did great at 300 ! ! !

[@marksellers4875]

FINE shooting Sir! Didn't think a '73 was capable of that level of accuracy. I have a couple " bury it with me" rifles myself. They're good " friends" to me.

[@SailorRob1473]

Congratulations on the 3 million views, and the excellent results at 3 times the intended range of the rifle. Suffice to say that if you keep producing such informative and interesting videos, then I shall keep watching them! :-)

[@DriveByShouting]

Incorrect. The 44-40 was in fact designed to be a rifle cartridge, not a pistol cartridge. It was the round designed and engineered for the Winchester 1873.

[@bwhog]

Correct... the cartridge is actually named "44 WCF" (Winchester Center Fire). Winchester was a rifle company. They didn't make handguns. "44-40" was Colt's re-designation so that they wouldn't have to print "44 WCF" on their handguns.

[@BIG-DIPPER-56]

Gee, Thanks Guys ! ! ! Excellent info ! ! ! 🙂😎👍

[@RickKratzke]

Congratulations on your high numbers. I'm happy to be one of your viewers.

[@lmomechtech7709]

Wonderful job done and congratulations on the 3 mil views!! 300 meters with an iron sighted, lever action is doing some shooting. Stand proud and enjoy the moment!

[@tonysalecki]

congrats on your youtube growth, you do such a great job and deserve much more. thanks

[@charlesfarmer5749]

It’s amazing how much Hungary looks and feels like southwest Missouri. When I was stationed in Hungary in the 1990s, if I didn’t look at the road signs, I could pretend I was home. I’m seeing this seven years later. Love the 44-40 in black powder.

[@hoodoo2001]

During the era of the US Coal Miner strikes and violence in the 1910-1923 period, Winchesters were primary rifle of the miners, 73's, 92's, 94's and a few 95's. The majority of the Winchesters were older used '73's as these were the cheaper Winchesters in this era, the miners owning primarily used guns, these people were endemically broke so even moderately prices weapons were unavailable. 10.4 Swiss and Italian Vetterli's were also, used, being very inexpensive on the surplus market and being decent "bear guns" in W. Virginia and other places. Springfield 1873's got into the mix also, but the Vetterlis appear to have been more available from Sears and Bannermans, definitely poor man's rifles, but the 73 Winchester was the primary weapon which means the miners were severely under gunned and much of the fighting was sniping in a mountainous forested terrain. This video shows how difficult it would have been for the miners to compete with military style weaponry and more powerful commercial weapons provided by the weathly companies. In comparison brand new Winchester 94 carbines especially in .30-30 (the famous "Carabina Trienta Trienta") were being sold covertly in large quantity in the 1910-1916 era down in Mexico to the revolutionaries and therefore the Revolutionaries were not so outgunned by the government troops as were the miners by company "detectives", local law enforcement (owned by the companies), and national guard troops. The sole difference was money, the miners had little to no backing while the Mexican Revolution generated a lot of cash due to ambitious men wanting to control the government.

[@capandball]

+hoodoo2001 thanks for the info!

[@tuberaider]

300m = 328 yards. Your rifle sights were calibrated for elevation in yards. I suspect that if you bring your target back to 274m, you will have an easier time zeroing it.

[@bwhog]

I'd never consider this rifle and cartridge beyond 125 yards but I appreciate this sort of go-for-broke test. I remember one day seeing how my .22 would do at 200 yards and the shots were all over the place but it DID hit the target! I have one of these Uberti rifles with the traditional semi-buckhorn sights. I had to raise it to max elevation to sight out to 100 yards and still ended up about ten inches low. However, I was astounded to find that I had nine shots in about a a 3 1/2 inch group plus one flier (there's always a flier...) with seven of those holes in a two inch group! (I was shooting Winchester SuperX 200gr SP)

[@shortfusesalleeflyer]

Outstanding presentation. Well detailed, photographed and edited. Very satisfying demonstration of the A. Uberti rifle. Thanks!

[@453421abcdefg12345]

Thanks again for another excellent and sensible video, I am not at all surprized at your rocketing viewing numbers, as yours is quite the best shooting channel on the KZbin system, just keep up the good work!

[@charleshanna2089]

Congratulations on your awesome rifle ! Thanks for the video

[@hardrockminer-50]

Awesome videos. thanks for making them. I am looking forward to rebuilding my great grandfathers Winchester 1873 Carbine.

[@longshot7590]

Awesome day and great shooting! Thank you so much for your dedication to such a historic and interesting time in firearm design and history

[@anzac2404]

Congratulations on hitting 3 million, enjoy your video's very much; all the best from down-under, cheers.

[@Albisriede]

Great video, and it explains why there was so much gunfire in those Western Movie gun battles (lack of accuracy, meaning you better fire often and hope for the best : ) And speaking of movies, has anyone else noticed that guys got plucked off their horses in spite of the fact that during a frontal attack the horse's head covers practically the entire body of the rider, while practically no horses ever get hit? Now that is some fancy shooting.

[@hardrockminer-50]

+SubtleKnowledge It's Hollywood! If no one fell off the horse, no exciement...

[@scvandy3129]

Responding to your first observation, in real life, in "olden days", firing of blackpowder, whether in revolvers or long guns, emitted so much smoke that it was a challenge for the shooter to line up her/his sites for follow-up rounds. AND it obscured the shooter's image for the opponent(s) to get off clear, return-fire. A BIG GRIEVANCE: Most of today's and recent-years' westerns don't use blackpowder blanks, but smokeless powder (or 1/4-load black powder blanks) and then the post production department cranks up the sound volume of the studio's library sound effect of a gun shot. Ridiculous. When one looks at an ancient Hopalong Cassidy, Tom Mix, William S. Hart or other 1930s-produced western ALL the gunplay is with black powder blanks. Full loads. And the effect FILLS the screen magnificently, so effectively. I truly, truly like 2017's theatrical western, "Hostiles!" -- so much that I paid to see it five (5 !) times over three weeks at various theaters / cinemas. "BluRay and DVD be damned" I thought. I wanted the theatrical experience, over and over, with this outstanding film, this beautiful western with a compelling story supported by a brilliant cast. BUT, "it killed me" to see the majority of the gun shots in these incredibly orchestrated action scenes delivered with those "pip-squeak"-type, smokeless powder blanks. The authentic, realistic sound effects were not enough. Before I get too-off the subject I will close. "Happy shooting, all !"

[@battmann678]

Another great video. Your passion for these guns is contagious, I'm happy to be "infected." Cheers from across the pond.

[@ScoopDogg]

It's I who thanks you capandball, for the excellent videos you produce, and may you long do so. 😁

[@kidhammer2567]

Thank you for this most scientifically balanced presentation. I possess both the Uberti & original Winchester Model 1873 rifles in .44 WCF, and with precise cartridge building, as you make, I enjoy truly consistent repeated accuracy. Thanks again. - Col. Montana Kid Hammer SASS 6476-P Fairbanks, AK

[@DPMConnacht]

I love your channel, it is one of my favourite on KZbin. Thank you so much! Each and every video of yours is excellent!

[@paulbyrne1952]

I would like to thank you for uploading these videos very interesting again thanks

[@63Muddly]

I HUGELY enjoy your videos and appreciate your hard work! You've greatly increased both my knowledge and curiosity about the firearms you've tested. You're also an amazing shot! The 44 WCF is a grand old cartridge and the 300 yard results were amazing! Wonder how results would be with an aperture sight...

[@Bartman2k7]

Congratulations on an excellent channel. And that was a very good wrap-up on factors contributing to target results. You mentioned tilt in relation to horizontal group spread and I was reminded of old time bubble levels. Your "30 to 120 m fun" video is a favorit for me and now I waitng on back ordered delivery of an Uberti 1873 in 44-40 with 30" barrel. I hpoe to get it by the end of this year. I have a Marlin 1894 Century Limited in .44-40 but no 1873 in my collcetion yet. The Marlin is a beauty and.... "I love my rifle" ! -Thanks for being here

[@scvandy3129]

The Century Limited is so beautiful IMO. Congratulations on your ownership of one; you are so lucky. I have the .357 Magnum, the Cowboy model, which looks similar, but isn't nearly as "fancy" in both metal and wood. It does shoot "fine". I also own a 1990s-manufactured Marlin 1894 carbine in .44-40, which was produced concurrently with the same model in the predominant caliber, .44 Magnum, but to a significantly slower total amount. Years ago "someone at the range" told me mine was part of a limited run of 1894s in .44-40 -- commissioned by WalMart. That explains its features: very basic. Nothing fancy about the wood or metal. Still, it's a .44-40! With JM stamped on the barrel. If I can find a Century Limited for less than $1,000 I'd surely "jump at the chance". But, the most recent price on GunBroker was over $1200. I usually rationalize how much ammunition one could buy with the extra $200 !

[@nineteenhundred1589]

So many great vids on the net. Your's are some of the best. I enjoy them a lot. And I tell people in my shooting circle about your web site.

[@WhatIsYourMalfunction]

I just ordered my first lever action rifle, a '92. I hope it shoots half as well. You are a terrific shooter!

[@scvandy3129]

You did not specify what caliber. Anyway, in the three years since you posted, I hope you have had dozens of enjoyable, successful shooting experiences with your '92. I have one in .357 Magnum and one in .38-40, both 20" carbines and both "gems" as far as shooting goes.

[@ShawarmaFarmer]

Another great video. Congrats for reaching that milestone

[@stevemiller7433]

Love your channel. What a beautiful rifle. Perfect.

[@williamclark755]

Nice rifle! I have a Marlin 45-70 1895 model! 405 gr. handoads! 48 grains of reloader-7!

[@brandnubian8269]

Love your videos and quotes! Greetings all the way down from South Africa!

[@trum4n6969]

Great video, thanks for posting!

[@szaboxgabor]

wow, now you can hear my snuffing during the last minutes :D

[@leindlerl]

Gratulálok! A puskához, a lövésekhez és a lelkesedéshez is!

[@capandball]

Köszönöm László!

[@cesargijon]

your videos are just plain excellent, professional and instructive. Cant say the same about other videos from other continents. European shooters are the best.

[@haroldmaddock]

Congratulations on 3 million views!

[@jtgall1]

Gratulalok! Great channel & great choice of rifle.

[@sharongrim8255]

Wow. Nice shooting. Accurate data. Short, and to the point, explanations. Great angles on the shooting action videos. Excellent commentary. I have an Uberti 1873 in 45 colt with a 30 inch barrel. Oddly enough, the bore measures .447. I am currently developing a hand load for it. Your video helps a lot! Thanks!

[@kennethconnors5316]

you make interesting and well edited video's and you make it come alive

[@davidkoskas-fourrier6298]

I think this guy loves guns more than I do . Witch is super !!! Thanks

[@drmaudio]

Congratulations. Your success is well earned.

[@MrTudenom]

Interesting, my Uberti 73 carbine in 44-40 has a bore diameter of 429. I wonder why they changed?

[@TheHappy_Introvert]

Do you ever come to the States to shoot black powder? In Freedship Indiana we have the National Muzzleloaders Loading Rifle Accociations spring shoot in June and the National Chapionship shoot in September with booth going on for 9 days.

[@robertcasabianca5673]

I learned a lot watching your videos

[@bellator11]

Original load was 40.7 gr of black powder behind a 217 gr bullet, used for both pistol and rifle. Later on high velocity smokeless loads were made available only for use in rifles.

[@denismorend3884]

Hello, I think you would have to support the rifle barrel at the tip, so you would avoid a smaller angle of error ... best regards.

[@johnjones100]

Very nice shooting! Keep the videos coming.

[@roadrunner681]

remember when it gets hot out if your cartridges get warn, the powder tends to raise pressure ive had similar results with a 308 cz 550 target rifle if its hot out it shoots high.

[@iduswelton9567]

As to hitting ur target at longer distance then the weapon is intended for- I dropped a deer at 110 yards with a 20 gage 3" mag. Mossberg model 500C Country Squire 28 " barrel aiming 3" over the shoulder and hit the top of the heart- I was using a 1 oz. Rifled slug in 3" magnum

[@roundballrolls2762]

wonderful,as always.

[@233NATOMAN]

Excellent shooting. With 357mag in a Marlin 1894c the best I could achieve at 100m was 12cm spread.

[@3ducs]

My local FFL guy in the USA has listed an original Model of 1873 made in 1888, it is in 38-40 caliber. I'll bid though it will probably be out of my range. The Ubertis are fine firearms.

[@3ducs]

I bought it... expensive but nice. Might have made more sense to have gotten an Uberti, I've liked all of those I have. Need to find an 1873 SAA in 38-40 now. And a horse.

[@scvandy3129]

When I bought my vintage Winchester 1873 rifle I was told I should NOT shoot the commercial load offered by Winchester, the 180 grain, jacket soft point bullet; that I should only shoot the lower velocity, Cowboy Action Shooting lead cartridges. Another "expert" told me "b.s. -- the jacketed bullets and the smokeless powder charge 'pushing them' do NOT harm the (old) barrel. I went so far as to read up and do further research on the subject. Since I enjoy our shared hobby it was fun, informative reading, NEVER boring. I still didn't feel like the experts could totally agree or disagree whether or not the standard Winchester .38-40 jacketed soft point bullet was okay in a 130-year old rifle. I have nothing against Cowboy Action Shooting ammunition, but I would like to feel confident that I can shoot a standard, mass-produced factory load of .38-40 without harming my relic. Of course, it's well over 100 years old, but I'd like to thing firing the gun at the range three or four times will be okay. BTW, I did buy the Uberti version of the 1873 SRC in .38-40. It is definitely "prettier" than the original, antique Winchester. Now, if we could only get Winchester to "fire up" their manufacture of standard .38-40 ammo, which, "urban legend" tells us is supposed to happen about every five (5 !) years. Most of the non-CAS stuff "out there" is vintage = costly.

[@DARIVSARCHITECTVS]

Wonderful video and spectacular rifle!

[@wernersalzl1650]

Always a positive surprise. AND with fekete löpor! Great!

[@versal339]

Excellent shooting young man. Augustus McCrae could not have done better. I would like to have a 1876 in .45-60 but every time I see one of your videos it makes me reconsider.

[@capandball]

Thanks Hugh, the 1876 is on my wish list also... :)

[@merrylglynn8555]

A beautiful rifle .... and a great video

[@jdahllquist6823]

Good video, and good shooting. Almost 1000' with 30 grains of powder, amazing.

[@timsim1940]

I am impressed!! Holy smokes!

[@aarontaylor1484]

Love your videos

[@brianlee6849]

It's definitely fun to experiment with your rifle and stretch its legs a little bit. I plan on getting a 73 44 40 24-in barrel and I want to load with black powder also. I'm hoping that I can get decent accuracy on target at 200 yards. And I plan on hunting with it inside of 100. I feel like if I can get on target accuracy at 200 my 100 yard accuracy will be excellent. Have you ever tried a full Max 40 grains black powder? What type of velocity are you getting from your 30 grain load? I really enjoy your program thank you for any advice that you have.

[@normski262]

WOW what a lovely rifle, wish I had one like that!

[@Robin6512]

very nice shooting!

[@samchapman1100]

What bullet/mold are you using for your 44-40's? 70 shots without even wiping the barrel is impressive! I can't seem to find a mold with grease grooves deep enough to take enough lube. The barrel on my 1866 gets completely fouled up after 5-10 shots using standard Lee molds.

[@donfaulkenberry5053]

Your video on the 44 40 at 300 meters has given me an entirely new direction to pursue in my chosen shooting sport: Black Powder Cartridge Silhouette. I was taught, either swab the bore or at least blow tube between every shot. I was also taught at an early age to question everything and keep an open mind. Your accuracy at 300 meters with your 44-40 with neither has me wondering about the wisdom of what I think I know. What, pray tell, is your bullet lube??? I would really like the luxury of load and shoot instead of the delay, on the shooting clock, of 10 or 15 seconds patching or tubing between each shot. I will soon be experimenting with load and shoot for accuracy without patch or blow tube in my 38-55 Remington Hepburn. Best Regards DRF Bethany Oklahoma USA

[@capandball]

don faulkenberry Don, there is nothing special invented here. I use the same lube I use for my Minié balls in muzzleloading target shooting. Mix 8 parts of tallow wth 2 parts of beeswax and add a little 0W40 engine oil. Be careful with the wngine oil. You need a soft lube, but not a liquid.

[@paseropierre6864]

J'avais vue un vieux catalogue colt où il pouvait avec le 44/40 les 600 mètres je sais si c'est une erreur d'impression ?

[@mrsoliton]

It would be very usefull to show us how you clean your rifle after black powder shooting

[@LifeofCharles]

Congratulations! You seem to be quite a good rifleman, my shooting is always poor because I only get to shoot maybe 3 times per year. If I aim at the ground and fire, I miss :(

[@KW-qq7nu]

Have you considering fitting a tang sight? If I wanted to try this what sort would you think appropriate to the rifle? Perhaps a Marbles? Many thanks. Excellent videos. I will support you on Patreon shortly along with BM.

[@Cosmoline]

That's surprisingly good. I've been thinking about getting one of those. Reminds me of a scene from Lonesome Dove.

[@capandball]

That scene gave me the idea... I have 100 more meters at that range. I will try that as well.

[@schofield0]

hi ,must pull u on what u said the 44/40 was originally designed as a rifle cartridge not a pistol round

[@redtra236]

Yeah in the later 1870s a lot of companies started making handguns chambered in 44-40 since most rifles used it though.

[@brianmoore1820]

Have you ever loaded with modern powder? It will shorten your case life but that rifle will shoot extremely well with 2400. I also used to use IMR 4227. Always with 200 gr .427 jacketed hollow points. Mind you I never fired it to 300 meters. Your videos are first rate, so thank you.

[@leverfever375]

Hey do you ever dabble with 180 grain in 44-40? I just loaded some with black powder for my uberti 66, but was hoping to use trail boss or IMR4227 with a 180HP.Not really sure if I want to shoot black powder out of it coz its new out of the box, any suggestions?

[@B-kl8vj]

At 3:09 your camera man is standing in front of you as you fire? Seems safe, as you were.

[@leverfever375]

PS missing all your 1873 and 1860 henry vids how about an update?

[@joshuagarrard3859]

Very beautiful country very good gun

[@Mr.56Goldtop]

So much for hollywood! In the westerns the marshall could pick off the bad guy easily at this distance lol!

[@frankbecker8903]

Hello, this is a great video. I am very interested in 44-40 and I would like to know, what kind of grease you use. I it a mixture of beewax and fully syntetic motoroil like in an other of your videos? How much oil and how much wax? I have a Henry carbine and the problem that after a few shots is much deposit in the barrel. Thanks a lot. Regards Frank

[@capandball]

+Frank Becker Hi Frank, 8 part tallow, 1 part beeswax and 0w40 engine oil added as necessary (you don't need too much of this, not more than 1/2 part.)

[@frankbecker8903]

Thanks a lot !!

[@SamEEE12]

Well Done!

[@ugtserviciosalaciudadania2737]

have you tried reducing the charge 30 grains to 25 grains and filling the rest of the case with semolina?. I am sure you will get much better accuracy. Best Regards form Spain

[@szbalogh]

Never thought these guns are so accurate. I wont die until I have the Winchester and a Peacemaker on my living room wall :) But why did you choose the 44-40 and not the .45LC? I am totally noob, have only an 1860 Army.

[@LionSilverVideos]

great video, nice rifle!

[@grendelgrendelsson5493]

Good shooting mate!!!!

[@mikemcnulty111]

Why only 30 grains of fffg?

[@campeonin]

amazing vídeo!! Could u tell me if model 1873 carbine sight, will fits in model 1873 rifle sight?? thanks a lot 4 your vídeos!!!

[@badweetabix]

I am very impressed by your grouping at 300 meters using just the iron sights. And even more so since you have never done this before with this rifle. Question for you: isn't the front sight on the 1873 kind of wide/thick for 300 meter. I mean doesn't it pretty much cover the width of your target?

[@capandball]

+badweetabix Yes it is, but the rifle was not designed for this kind of job.

[@wildrangeringreen]

Finally, someone who knows what a tangent sight is used for lol! Now, take a triangle file and score the sight at the setting, so you don't forget lol. shoot, with that sight radius, that sight gives you what, 60-80 minutes? Time to take that baby out to 500m or so haha! 4 second flight time's ok, right? bout enough time to get an espresso or something :)

[@hoodoo2001]

Capandball: Really enjoy your videos. You do a fantastic job. Thanks! I have an original .44-40 Colt SAA (1904) and would love to have one of these Uberti's. Probably the most beautiful practical rifle ever made.

[@frankfraticelli2967]

Nice video.

[@변지한-n6h]

Thanks for the great video. I've never knew that 44-40 round can hit the target from 300m! But is it strong enough to hunt animals at 300m? I mean thing like wild boars or something.

[@wildrangeringreen]

Not at 300, especially not with BP (smokeless loads aren't much faster, due to pressure limits). Rifles in .44WCF, .45 colt, .357Magnum, and .44 Mag are 125m and closer type guns for common deer (fallow, white tail, Mule, ect) and boar/feral hog. Winchester did sell these rifles with tangent sights as an option, but I feel that was for more of a martial application, where you don't really need to kill the target to get the job done. 44WCF can still cause a pretty serious wound at 300, but can't be trusted for hunting (where the goal is to kill the animal as quick as possible).

[@matlbatl]

Hi Cap and Ball! Is it the "high" "medium" or "low" frontsight? Regards from your Neighbour from Vienna! ;)

[@capandball]

+matlbatl HI, it's a rear sight from a Henry rifle.

[@matlbatl]

+capandball Yes i know, but there is also 3 different front sights for the henry rifle out there which are fix in size. They are called high medium or low. Here is the link www.ubertireplicas.com/ox_portfolio_cat/for-rifle-and-carbine/#lightbox[]/1/

[@capandball]

+matlbatl A238055

[@arpadlimanagy7018]

Pólvora CBC 219, grains 7.0, Projétil 200 gr, tiros vão ter bons agrupamento.