Very nice indeed. We are soon getting ready to tune a Supercharged Gen 6. We will see how the CVT holds up. Tuner and owner of XRT (Xtreme Racing Tuning)
@cameronsterling42572 жыл бұрын
Should be interesting raptor says you are looking at 402bhp with their supercharger (with their headers and a full exhaust)
@vapinNugz Жыл бұрын
How is the CVT holding up? Curious as I wanna tune my legacy 3.6r. Thanks!
@Darylrb1983 Жыл бұрын
Requesting update lol
@Mike_44 Жыл бұрын
How were the 4th gear pulls? loll
@ace7737 ай бұрын
@edwardmillington7611 any update you've got for us?
@Tachyon8362 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand why Subaru never got around to putting boost into the flat 6s. They really could've been JDM porsche
@chrisb.banick6720 Жыл бұрын
Their 3.0 out of the Tribeca was partially built by Porsche
@zeroelus Жыл бұрын
I've seen a few builds here and there and basically the conclusion is that it wouldn't get much farther than the boosted 4 cylinders they already had on tap. Having said that it's a shame they're no longer building those flat 6s, as they're probably the most reliable branch of engines they made, save for some that liked to drink oil.
@Kacpa26 ай бұрын
@@chrisb.banick6720 It wasnt, its a silly urban legend that robs subaru of credit for their own engine.
@chrisb.banick67206 ай бұрын
@Kacpa2 if it was the something to give credit for it would still be driving their suvs and wagons today but the FB and FA has surpassed anything subaru has done in last 30 years and I feel like they don't get any credit for finally canning the EJ platform. Yes it was built by subaru but everything about that specific engine screams Porsche
@stevecrocker69042 ай бұрын
@@chrisb.banick6720 : not so
@Loya1ty2 жыл бұрын
Regarding interior and the backseat, I've actually had a lot of compliments on the bench seating on my 2013. It's def firmer, but i think the seat "height" gives passengers a more postured feeling vs sunk in.
@yung_dunc20 күн бұрын
Proud '16 Legacy 3.6R owner. I hope to keep it for a long time and eventually build it and add boost.
@HyRax_Aus2 жыл бұрын
Don't understand why US-built Legacy and Outback don't come with SI-Drive. You are missing out on so much with the 3.6 engine by not having SI-Drive.
@nismotech2 жыл бұрын
How has MPG been affected since the tune? Still able to use regular grade gasoline?
@Mattryanfisher Жыл бұрын
You can request Ed @ XRT to tune for whatever fuel you wish. Many do 87+ to save $, some do 93 only for the most aggressive timing profile for the quickest feeling ramp up to power. It will also make more torque.
@reginaldgarcia66992 жыл бұрын
Love your reviews. Shout out from New York State
@RustemTasdemir Жыл бұрын
Nissan ,Honda and Toyota Cvt trans driver gets about to cry they does not have fake shifting
@davemack79082 жыл бұрын
Nice car, love it, and thanks for the review.
@solarismortum3836 күн бұрын
How much did the tune cost? Looks pretty lateral with my legacy, we pretty much have the same mods going.
@HARaZAC2 жыл бұрын
its sad that those were only automatics with the F6 engine :(
@malakialkins53322 жыл бұрын
That's a CVT transmission? It sounds like a normal transmission to me. I'm not a fan of cvts but when manufacturers can Master the CVT like that it sounds amazing unlike Nissan's CVT
@XanMan_052 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 2019 Outback with the 2.5, if you’re really ragging on it it will do the fake shifts, but if you’re putting around town it will do the hanging thing sometimes. It’s quite unpredictable actually, not dangerously so though.
@Dankcatvacs2 жыл бұрын
normal transmissions tend to shift though...
@Besim.Muftiu2 жыл бұрын
It’ll shift if you give it like 55% acceleration off the rip
@esko23q8 ай бұрын
Like great car and all but CVT transmission is really the worst. Should have a 6sp
@bohan99572 жыл бұрын
LOL, a CVT trying to emulate gear shifts. It has the worst of both worlds.
@thirdpedalnirvana2 жыл бұрын
I don't think torque gets lost in the drivetrain like power does. You might want to check into that. It probably loses something, but not 10+ percent
@babymantuck3256 Жыл бұрын
I unfortunately had my 2014 Legacy 2.5 premium totaled when someone ran a stop sign recently. Even with 120K I loved that car and it had more years left. But I just found a 2019 Legacy 3.6R limited with under 30K, and in superb condition. Any suggestions on finding someone to tune my car? I live in the Houston suburbs if anyone can advise or point to a forum. Thanks
@CR-jt5pvАй бұрын
Xrt is the only 3.6R tuner that I’m aware of. I believe they are in Australia, so it’s tuned remotely, but they will walk you through the process and get you setup with hardware to do it. They’ll start you with a base tune, then you’ll need to log data, send it to them and they’ll customize the tune based on that.
@ABDO-xw9wm2 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a 2012 Mazda CX-9
@maverick22422 жыл бұрын
What mid pipe did he use, from the Raptor Headers, to the catback, eg between the headers and Catback, it’s a twin mid pipe out from the headers to the catback exhaust, I’m having trouble finding a replacement, on my EZ30R, I currently run Raptor headers (stainless) to a steel custom made mid pipes (CL deletes) as could t find an option, that then mates to the stainless catback (XF) and I hate it, it’s raspy and loud as fck, car needs a retune. The Raptor headers def add more torque look great and are well made. But the mid pipe and I can’t find a a Subi 6 cylinder option on Nameless site, let alone a dual mid pipe option from anyone. Any help guys would be appreciated cheers. This 3.6R is what I’d like mine to be more like in terms of sound loudness, mine seriously gives STI drivers and V8 drivers the cringe it’s more like a full on track race car sound but has a raspyness I hate, just not that smooth sound ya get from an Invidia or this Nameless
@kamwilliford50222 жыл бұрын
how fast is the 0-60
@kamwilliford37332 жыл бұрын
Also how much horse power to crank
@trilliamogdlocog49862 жыл бұрын
250..
@cecilthecavetroll97433 ай бұрын
@@trilliamogdlocog4986 not with the tune. You get the 250 at the wheels with the tune.
@mengdynasty60342 жыл бұрын
Would be even better if there wasn’t a cvt in it.
@davidcabrera39392 жыл бұрын
Send tuner name! I got a 2016
@Davo_19912 жыл бұрын
cvt *vomit face emoji* LMFAO!!!
@markcoucke72112 жыл бұрын
I have a blue 2011 3.6 R and less than 55,000 miles.
@RyanJosephh Жыл бұрын
My 2015 has 135k!!! How u liking yours???
@markcoucke7211 Жыл бұрын
@@RyanJosephh love it, not fast but fun
@dave116862 жыл бұрын
I love six-cylinder Subarus so much
@bwofficial17762 жыл бұрын
Blue + bronze, so classic. Unfortunately just as Subaru figured out how to build a good engine that doesn't blow up they went to the CVT dark side. Imagine if, starting 15 years ago, Subaru leaned more into their rally heritage and made sporty models of their cars (and gave the WRX the attention its been lacking). This car would really wake up with a dual-clutch and some tight suspension. Subaru's 3.6 six and various turbo models have a cult following because it's so easy to get power out of them and they drive decently well. Subaru missed their chance.
@TheRealCatof2 жыл бұрын
CVT's are cheap and good for fuel economy. Which most people care more about.
@Xaluber2 жыл бұрын
Missed their chance at what exactly? Their sales exploded since they switched to CVTs. The average person cares way more about fuel economy than what the transmission feels like, and the fake shifts are convincing enough for most. Get a manual if you want something sporty.
@spaghettimonter132 жыл бұрын
you know that Subaru has been going with the CVT since 1989 LOL it's been around forever
@skippylegrandgourou20692 жыл бұрын
The new Legacy are meh, even my 1998 Subaru B4 Rsk is faster than this slug. Automatic car are the worse and good luck to find someone who wants to fix an automatic transmission.
@TheRealCatof2 жыл бұрын
@@skippylegrandgourou2069 You're trying to compare an older, lighter car that has 276 hp against a newer car that is ehavier and has fewer hp. No duh it'll be faster. But, if you put an automatic in the 1998 Subaru B4 Rsk, it would become even faster.
@zarsasilver2 жыл бұрын
flat 6 engines make me feel something different
@andynickles75052 жыл бұрын
I’d love to hear your thoughts are on the first gen Mazda6 with a V6 and a manual… I’ve got one in SoCal if you’re ever interested in driving it.
@ShootingCars2 жыл бұрын
Email me at Pradelreviews@gmail.com or submit it to zackpradel.com/submit ! I’ll be in SoCal this summer!
@damilolaakanni2 жыл бұрын
The 6 cylinder engine is great, but why would anyone pair that engine with a CVT? A six speed automatic transmission, at least would have been better, IMO.
@XanMan_052 жыл бұрын
That would have required a transmission swap, plus you’d have to custom fit it too. Subaru doesn’t do proper auto boxes anymore. (Except the BRZ, but that’s a Toyota transmission)
@Memesfromthestreets2 жыл бұрын
Might wanna manual swap this
@Dankcatvacs2 жыл бұрын
@@XanMan_05 (there is no simple transmission swap) is more like a running gear trans /rear end swap . awd have to have the same ratio front and back,autos have different ratios...
@railfanatic14162 жыл бұрын
The newer TR690 CVT is a damn smooth transmission, smoother than any other conventional automatic. With that said, it's not the most engaging obviously, and a 6mt EZ36D would be the perfect car. It was paired with the engine because it's not a performance car, but rather a comfort car
@XanMan_052 жыл бұрын
@@Dankcatvacs Oh I know that tranny swaps aren’t easy. I was just leaning more to the fact that swapping in a regular autobox could be difficult because of the lack of proper autos in Subaru’s lineup.
@amazingstone40482 жыл бұрын
Nice review i got legacy 3.6r 2015, the seat not much comfortable,and the suspension needed to be upgraded ,the best I like is the power and awd iam a Subaru fan, much more confidence to drive it! Like to drive to fast
@mistamaog2 жыл бұрын
Would've been cool to have a 6 cylinder Subaru with a manual, I can't stand driving CVTs or any auto in general
@pixlm8ker2 жыл бұрын
I had a 1994 Subaru svx which I manual swapped and awd. I’ll probably do the same to the legacy I’m going to buy
@bradyg4992 жыл бұрын
@@pixlm8ker how hard was that? shame they didn’t even do manual 6 cylinders back then
@pixlm8ker2 жыл бұрын
@@bradyg499 I did it myself about 20 years ago. The hardest part was swapping the rear from an AWD svx since my shell was a fwd variant. Just about everything else bolted right up.
@trilliamogdlocog49862 жыл бұрын
More benefit it being automatic not just from a performance standpoint but from a financial perspective etc..
@anthonyparra95532 жыл бұрын
subaru CVTS are great if they are tuned right. l hear thy NASCAR banned CVTs because they were too fast.
@Dankcatvacs2 жыл бұрын
engine is cool but that cvt yawn not for me , at least a 6 speed auto would give you gear shifts but to me a cvt is backwards in a enthusiast perspective , a 2 speed power glide has more character. i'd rather mob a slow car with a stick . but i see less people agree yet you can still get a stick in a crosstrek . so its just subaru playing god idk.
@HyRax_Aus2 жыл бұрын
If the USDM Legacy/Outback came with SI-Drive, you wouldn't be bothered so much by the CVT. My 3.6 with CVT absolutely rips in S# mode. One long gear to 100kph in 6.4 seconds with zero throttle lag. Switch to Intelligent mode, and it's much better for city cruising and fuel consumption. No qualms with the CVT at all.
@zeroelus Жыл бұрын
Bought an outback with the 3.6 as the family hauler and it's worked great in that role, but it bugged me the otherwise unique sounding engine is muted most of the time, and even when it's a bit louder after 3.5K revs, it's still too darn quiet. The replacement family hauler we got (an Odyssey with a J35 V6) is actually louder when revs climb, which I find hilarious. I do love the EZ36, it's very smooth and it fits the character of the outback really well. Going from a frenetic manual hot hatch daily driver to this is exactly what I wanted for being stuck in and dealing with city traffic. Now relieved of it's family hauling duties and just being the dad car, I have no intention of tuning it, but am looking for an excuse to give it a slightly less muted exhaust. Those pulls you filmed from the inside of the car where helpful in confirming the idea of what I want.
@FL50ssp6 ай бұрын
You want TQ? My 2007 Spec.b with Cobb access port, downpipe with high flow cat, boost controller on the factory turbo, and wastegate + Mach V Motorsports tune made 335WHTQ. Which is over 400FWTQ. People like to bash on the EJ but done right they are reliable in modded form.
@Neneko0072 жыл бұрын
Any body who thinks that subaru cvt is bad.... their automatic are just as bad. Pieces of clunky cheap junk.
@pbfloyd136 ай бұрын
This as a wagon with a 6MT would be EVERYTHING i want in a daily.
@Kacpa26 ай бұрын
It exists. 3.0R h6 4th gen Legacy had Spec B variant in europe, japan and australia with 6mt from sti(without dccd). It is possible to swap it relatively easily. People also swapped 3.6 engine into Spec B's sometimes.
@AntilleanConfederation4 ай бұрын
For me I want a outback wilderness with DCCD and six spd manual 🫡
@CR-jt5pvАй бұрын
@@Kacpa2 it has been done, but its far from easy.
@aaronreed98632 жыл бұрын
Too bad these are pretty nose heavy.
@Pii-RuCryptoCuhThroat7 ай бұрын
5” exhaust system or muffler cuz that would be retarded on a NA vehicle
@SergeiTheAnarch2 жыл бұрын
What octane was it tuned to? 93AKI?
@vantom61942 жыл бұрын
This is TR690 CVT transmission their oldest but the most reliable CVT transmission of Subaru in fact this was still the CVT transmission of the NEW WRX 2022 with oem cooler for upgrade you could add a CVT cooler to protect it from heat i have one for my 2014 Subaru Forester XT using a Hayden transmission cooler
@NyoomSpencerFox2 жыл бұрын
Not actually symmetrical! All Subaru CVT units have 60:40 awd, still plenty enough for powerslides and donuts though. (keep it on the low CVT haters will run with it) I've got a legacy myself and been eyeing the headers & tune for awhile 👀 Awesome to see in action, thanks for showcasing it!
@Minecrafinator2 жыл бұрын
symmetrical is referring to layout of the awd mechnical system. 60:40awd is just how much power can be split between the two axles
@NyoomSpencerFox2 жыл бұрын
@@Minecrafinator ohh i took symmetrical too literally LOL, thanks for clarifying to me!
@jordov93987 ай бұрын
“CVT haters” you mean people with ears? Or people that like to drive? Or is it the people that like reliable drivetrain components?
@NyoomSpencerFox7 ай бұрын
@@jordov9398 I'll give you Nissan CVT's are unreliable but TR690 in Subaru's don't have many issues, I've taken mine to tarmac track days & rallycross lapping over the past 4-5 years and have the same transmission operating the same as when I got it, my motor went kaboom and the transmission is still perfect! You can look through my channel if you don't think CVT's are for people who like driving lol
@PLBez11 ай бұрын
Hey, Zack great review of the XRT Tuned 3.6R. Can you please confirm that the exhaust is the Nameless 5" muffler and not the muffler delete version? Also, the car looks lowered, but just the right amount. Is it on lowering springs or coil-overs and which ones? Lastly where did Jonathan get the red R on the trunk lid? Thanks and keep up the great reviews..
@YTWine295 ай бұрын
What type of tune was done?
@slashknifeАй бұрын
ECU reflash street tune I have this on my 11 legacy 3.6 the older ones like mine have a better transmission & it's Not a CVT.
@ericinvalpo2 жыл бұрын
26oz huge bottle? Just get a 32oz Basecamp Tumbler, increase your capacity of drink, and it fits in both of the Legacy 3.6R Limited cupholders just fine without being obstructive.
@TerpCrazy5 ай бұрын
This cars biggest issue is nothing but the trash cvt terrible lag. But you can make it work to a degree
@sleeper.simulant73272 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Porsche
@youtuber57092 жыл бұрын
The Subaru H-6 heads are a Porsche design .
@mordys6305 Жыл бұрын
@@youtuber5709 where is the reference?
@youtuber5709 Жыл бұрын
@@mordys6305 the VVL system in the 2nd gen engine was designed and licensed from Porsche , i read it in a subaru forum a few years ago can't remember which one , but if you google it i'm sure you can find it .
@ilovesundays10 Жыл бұрын
.. wait you can modify the 3.6? hmm
@Ivanthetroll262 жыл бұрын
Are those XXR 559's? That's what I have on my 3.6R
@Xaluber2 жыл бұрын
Odd sounding flat 6... a lot more like a V6 than my Cayman.
@sleeper.simulant73272 жыл бұрын
Very different design. Narrow cam angle, lower revving, lower compression, different header design even with the Raptor headers
@Xaluber2 жыл бұрын
@@sleeper.simulant7327 Yeah, just surprising it sounds so much like a V6 when Subaru’s flat 4s sound nothing like an inline 4. I’ve driven a stock 3.6R Outback and the induction noise inside the cabin was distinctly more flat 6 sounding than this car from what I remember.
@sleeper.simulant73272 жыл бұрын
@@Xaluber an inline 4 with an unequal header placed where pulses from cylinder collide with sound just like an older WRX or STi. I’ll post a video link for proof. Header design makes the biggest difference generally.
@sleeper.simulant73272 жыл бұрын
@@Xaluber kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWm3oYShir6Hec0
@Xaluber2 жыл бұрын
@@sleeper.simulant7327 I was actually talking about the newer Subarus which all have equal length headers, minus the STI. My BRZ sounded very different from from any inline 4 car I’ve driven.
@TheCldmstrsn2 жыл бұрын
"not not bad" so bad? hahahaha
@sssnake23322 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Porsche.
@gsebastianzetina89312 жыл бұрын
This Subaru is fantastic.
@alexanderhaffner301 Жыл бұрын
Should see if you can find someone with a tuned 3.6 with the 5eat
@CR-jt5pvАй бұрын
I’ve got a 2010 w/5eat, tuned by xrt. It is far better than the cvt.
@macalpha4099 Жыл бұрын
Subaru used to have the godliest 3.0r engine. I think it was quicker. I heard that around 2010, the 3.6r was used to help with gas savings economy. The 3.0r was faster, plus the pre2010 subarus had little tech and werent weighed down with nonsense. I miss my old 3.0r legacy. My 3.6r legacy is fast, but noticably slower than my 3.0r legacy. My 3.6r gets 20mpg all day, my 3.0r literally got 16mpg.
@ZomBSnatcher46712 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm curious what model you're in? Limited maybe?
@byebye55152 жыл бұрын
it only comes in limited if it’s a 3.6
@Hallowsaw2 жыл бұрын
1, the 3.6 was made in the late 2000s. 2, the owner obvously had to put at least 3k in it to get somewhat of a decent power rating. They are not quick at all stock. 3, i own a 2011 3.6, its not fast. A civic could beat it without mods.
@jamesg82462 жыл бұрын
I dunno man. I've been itching to line up my 14 3.6R Limited Legacy and out 17 WRX 6MT that's stage 2+ tuned. I'm sure the WRX is quicker as it puts down about 300whp, but the 3.6R pulls and is no slouch. This Legacy doesn't feel like I'm reaming it out to get up to 80 pretty quick, where the FA20 DIT does feel like you're just pushing it hard to do the same thing. But that's the difference between a small displacement turbo vs a large displacement N/A motor.
@HyRax_Aus2 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about? My completely stock 2019 Outback 3.6R in S# mode does the 0-100kph sprint in 6.4 seconds. The WRX does it in 6.1 seconds, largely in part due to the weight difference. It's a pretty damn good package out of the box. Using EyeSight Hold mode as a poor-mans Launch Control, it absolutely rips off the line and thanks to not needing to change gears, and beats a lot of manual transmission cars in the process at the Traffic Light GP.
@manlamaMC2 жыл бұрын
@@HyRax_Aus I have a 2015 legacy 3.6r, can you elaborate on the eyesight hold mode? I’ve never heard about this before
@HyRax_Aus2 жыл бұрын
@@manlamaMC I should really refer to it as Adaptive Cruise Mode hold, but more people seem to get it when you refer to EyeSight. Anyway, it's when you enable ACC, are fully stopped and set a cruise speed. Hold mode engages which allows you to get off the brake pedal because the car is holding the brake for you. You can now hover over the throttle pedal and instantly mash it when the light turns green while your opponent has to waste time getting off the brake pedal and then onto the throttle. Thus, a poor man's launch control.
@wesd92412 жыл бұрын
@@jamesg8246 I completely agree. I just sold my 2005 GT wagon(manual), I had bored the block and decked heads, bigger pistons(putting more low end, and higher compression), still stock turbo location, anyway, full pro tune and made 330whp, 325ftlbs, the car ripped. My wife has a 2017 outback 3.6r. The outback feels like an absolute tank in corners, handling, but man off the line, and 35mph-80mph its pretty damn quick! Honestly impressive for stock I feel.
@odinisgod45772 жыл бұрын
what does bfb mean? i just found your channel
@ShootingCars2 жыл бұрын
BFB means “big friggin bottle”. I test every car I review with the same large water bottle to see if it will fit in the cup holders! Every car review from 2021 on has the test!
@odinisgod45772 жыл бұрын
@@ShootingCars you should do a wrx my 2017 if your ever in fl
@louiscle16222 жыл бұрын
I drive one. The fun is there. Mine was tuned by a subaru worker also The airbox has a k&n too. ( 2015 legacy subaru bosal mufflers) wrx resonator and cat was taken off and replaced with wrx short cat. So it all sound a little louder than stock.
@richardfairweather24122 жыл бұрын
I love my 2020 3.6 Subaru. It is charming.
@cherobinson6371 Жыл бұрын
I love my 2019. Beast
@OO7sharadGR82 жыл бұрын
Is it AWD ?
@jamesg82462 жыл бұрын
AWD is standard on all subarus for many years now, outside of the BRZ.
@Davo_19912 жыл бұрын
someone isn't a car guy and it shows :P lol
@muslemmuslem739 Жыл бұрын
Is it cvt ?? If it cvt while you keep in manual how many speed you have ???