SHOOTOUT Ultrasonic Cleaner Filled With Pine-Sol Vs. a Pine-Sol Soak to Clean Carburetor Parts

[@LeewardStudios]

Hint: place parts in ziplock type bag with your choice of cleaner solution. Place the bag in ultrasonic and then add water to cover. The ultrasonic “waves” will not be affected by the bag and cleanup is much easier. Also if you have sorted batches of bolts, nuts or smaller parts much easier to separate and you can use different solutions in each bad as necessary. I use this method for cleaning pew pew brass.

[@dazecars]

That is a good tip, thanks

[@BenNawrath]

I was going to say that or in a smaller container of some sort. Just needs to be enough to cover the part. Bonus is the sonic cleaner itself only sees water.

[@Alconium]

Little jars and stuff work too, baby food jars, mayo jars, etc.

[@robdavis1176]

@dazecars you should fill your ultra sonic cleaner all the way to the fill line. Being partially full can damage the unit or reduce the life expectance of the unit itself. However what LeewardStudios wrote is absolutely true.

[@dazecars]

Thanks for pointing that out but I was already aware. I made this video over a year ago and the video was the first time I used an ultrasonic cleaner. I Didn't read the directions about the "fill line" leading to my error. There have been lots of comments pointing out my mistake and all subsequent uses of this machine I filled it correctly.

[@davidwhitacre534]

I use Pine-Sol in my ultrasonic cleaner - and dilute it a bit with water. The mixture can be used over and over again - you pour the dirty mixture into a plastic jug and let it sit, and after some time the dirt will slowly settle on the bottom and you can then pour the Pine-Sol mixture out and leave most of the dirt on the bottom. If you use a clear container you can see when the dirt starts to come up to the opening and stop pouring so that you only get the good cleaner out.

[@dazecars]

thanks for the tip

[@jamesford7182]

I used to have a company that rebuilt the self-contained breathing apparatus used by emergency services. The regulators were very complex and exposed to chemicals and entry into burning buildings. The parts were a major pain in the butt to clean so my techs usually spent well over an hour to clean the parts for a single overhaul. When we bought our first ultrasonic cleaner we were able to reduce the cleaning time to less than 15 minutes and were able to quit using the volatile chemicals we used to use. We increased production, lowered costs, and gave my techs a much safer working environment.

[@dazecars]

They are an amazing tool

[@robertsmith2956]

Wow, I always use the full 30 minutes cleaning mine. Got a spare throttle body to try Purple in it. Don't like the less corrosive on aluminum on the label. 🤫

[@dazecars]

30 minutes would have been ideal but having never used it I didn't know how long it needed. "less corrosive on aluminum" on which label?

[@jamesford7182]

@@dazecars We filled it with a food grade cleaner suggested for the application by the manufacturer of the product. We had a lot of regulations and government standards to meet.

[@dazecars]

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[@garrybuckminster688]

I’ve been using ultra sonic tanks for carburetors and injectors and I have used pine sol for years and with heat it’s even better . Great video

[@dazecars]

glad you liked the video and good to hear others have had similar results.

[@ferrallderrall6588]

Thanks for the heads up,think ive got lots of fine rubber killers on hand and glad i started looking around,wondering if itsa good udea at all to run the engire carb,lot of orings in there

[@dazecars]

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[@billclisham8668]

I've had good results with Simple Green as well as with Pine-sol.

[@ferrallderrall6588]

@billclisham8668 i was considering mixing them 50/50 ..might not hurt tobtry one at a time

[@mike-carrigan]

I work in an aerospace machine shop and have been studying ultrasonic cleaning a lot over the last 6-mths to bring some of our cleaning processes in house. I know you wanted to do a comparison without using the heat but I will tell you without a doubt that heating the fluid is 100% part of the cleaning process. You will notice a huge difference in time and getting into those tight areas if you crank that temp up before hand. We clean at 60c

[@dazecars]

You are correct heat is always going to make it work better

[@robertsmith2956]

They are fantastic for cleaning brass musical instruments. Looking for a tub that will fit trombones and tubas to make a huge one.

[@dazecars]

👍

[@patrickbeaumier8616]

Really like the “No effort” part of the job. Thanks for the comparison. 👍👍

[@dazecars]

Thanks for watching!

[@weegaz22]

Thats a pretty viscous looking liquid, try it with 50% water next time and heat the water, The lower the viscosity, the more cavitation effect present. Fluids with higher viscosity are sluggish and do not react quickly enough to form cavitation bubbles and the reduces the subsequent implosion effect, which is how they work, a side benefit is it'll also mean you can clean more for your $ as it'll go twice as far. might even be able to go 33% pinesol to 67% water. I used to use one of these for fire and flood restoration work back in 1998 when they were pricey pieces of equipment back then.

[@dazecars]

Thanks for the tip! I have been toying with diluting the pine sole for $ savings and actually because some detergents need some water for the soap and grime to bind to but I had not thought about the viscosity. For this shootout I needed to do a 1:1 comparison and the "internet wisdom" was to soak the carb body in 100% pine sol so the ultrasonic test needed to be the same. Thanks for the comment, I really appreciate it.

[@TheGrizzlyGarage]

Just a heads up, you are supposed to fill the resevoir up to the fill line (right above the basket) failure to do so will result in your Ultrasonic Cleaner blowing up. This is according to the user manual.

[@dazecars]

good point

[@RobertKessmar-nd9zw]

Yes. After you fill the ultrasonic cleaner up to the line you should wait awhile for all the micro air bubbles to come out. I actually wait 12-24 hours before I turn it on.

[@crashland5711]

@@RobertKessmar-nd9zw run it empty and it will "de-gas" the liquid. Use a huge sonic in the hospital central sterile dept. that I work in. After each change of cleaner (water with enzymatic) we run one cycle empty to remove air bubbles.

[@dazecars]

good tip, thanks

[@bryancondrey6457]

I suggest using both methods. Soak for a day to help loosen the crud and then run the ultrasonic for an hour or so. Then go to your medicine cabinet and grab your old toothbrush (probably needs changing anyway) to finish off anything stubborn. Thanks for the time you invested making this comparison.

[@dazecars]

I agree. the part that soaked for 24 hours first didn't need much ultrasonic to finish it out.

[@BobSmith-mc7uq]

Might try diluting the Pine sol by 50% to water & putting the throttle bodies into a Ziploc baggy then add the Pine sol. Put this in the ultrasonic cleaner and add water to the tank. The ultrasonic action will work inside the baggy. Saves on Pine sol & cleaning the tank.

[@dazecars]

makes sense but the Pine-Sol was not expensive. I can see it as a way to keep the solution cleaner longer.

[@tomedgar4375]

I prefer a glass jar when the part will fit. The bags tend to leak.

[@dazecars]

👍

[@michaeldecker2725]

I was curious about that. The solution looked thick.

[@dazecars]

it is a little thick and soaps are designed to bind grime to water so it would we worth testing the effectiveness when cut with water.

[@charliedee9276]

Pine-Sol diluted about 50/50 with water works perfect for carbs and pretty much anything else that will fit in the US cleaner. I preheat the water to speed things up, run parts for 10 minutes, more if needed. A small screened tea leave gadget is good for screws and the bag and jar tips also work good.

[@dazecars]

thanks for the tip

[@joell439]

Great demonstration. I'm definitely sold on the Pine-Sol effectiveness on aluminum. Thank You Mr Daze! I have never spent enough time to validate the following..... but the internet cautions that you can damage the ultrasonic drivers if the tank liquid level is not full. YMMV "Steve's small engine saloon" did a series of YT videos on the ultrasonic cleaner when he got one. Also very interesting results.

[@dazecars]

yes that is true. It need to be 2/3 full or more so either put clean dummy parts to displace the fluid or add more fluid.

[@jamesbarlowjr.3762]

I’m just glad it doesn’t pit the aluminum. I work on small engines and soaking the carbs and other parts in that would be a perfect alternative to what I use. 🤝

[@dazecars]

it works very well

[@jamesbarlowjr.3762]

@@dazecars Very Cool I’ll have to try that! Thanks! 🤝

[@dazecars]

My pleasure

[@rdm20fan]

I good tip I have used so that I don’t use as much cleaner, is I fill the ultrasonic cleaner with water, and I put the part and cleaner in a zip lock bag, or glass mason jar. This also helps to keep the ultrasonic cleaner clean.

[@dazecars]

Great tip!

[@bobuncle8704]

I never thought about trying pine-sol as a solvet. Thanks

[@dazecars]

wish I could take credit for it but I didn't come up with it. It is a fairly common youtube alternative for cleaning car parts.

[@benmiller3280]

I worked at a honda motorcycle dealership, and we always had a 5 gallon bucket full of pine sol for soaking carbs. My boss said they have been using pine sol since the 70's. Who knows if it originated there or not.

[@dazecars]

Interesting real world information, thanks for sharing

[@aguycalledlucas]

In recently got an ultrasonic cleaner and I love it. I haven’t used pinesol for aluminum but I will try it.

[@dazecars]

I was shocked how well it worked

[@osimnod]

Perfect timing for this comparison as I just purchased the 10L Creworks ultrasonic cleaner for use on my motorcycle carburetors. Paid about $120 on Amazon (didn't know about your channel, sorry). Looking forward to using it with Pine-Sol. Thanks for the informative video.

[@dazecars]

Glad I could help! Make sure you check out my video on pine-sol and how it can etch some metals. It is not a super aggressive etch but important to know as a verity of metals are used for carburetors. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5-mco13a62Hnrc

[@davelowets]

I have the same 10L Creeworks model, and I use Pine-Sol in mine all the time for carbs... 👍

[@dazecars]

I was amazed how well it worked. Have you experimented with mixing water with the pine-sol? I have heard 50/50 is actually better but have not needed to clean anything to test it.

[@andyb7754]

I've got two ultra sonic cleaners (1 for west coast, 1 for upper mid-west). We use them a lot in aircraft engine repair. I didn't know about the Pine-Sol, (will be trying that) thank you very much for the informational video.

[@dazecars]

glad I could help

[@ChrisIrving-f7k]

Crazy. Who knew 💕💕💕💕

[@dazecars]

I know I was shocked

[@David-hm9ic]

This was posted only after reading a lot of other comments. +1 for the Ziplock bag suggestions. Freezer bags tend to hold up better than refrigerator storage bags. The results with undiluted Pine-Sol were surprising. My cleaners of choice are Simple Green and L.A.'s Totally Awesome (or just "Awesome) but I dilute either at 1 part to 4 parts water for really grimy RC airplane engines down to 1:10 solution for light grime. It might be worth adding some water to the Pine-Sol to see if it works any faster/better. Diluting may be counter intuitive but the reduced viscosity seems to get underneath the dirt and crud better than an undiluted cleaner.

[@dazecars]

Thanks for the input. Many have said I should have diluted the Pine Sol not only to make it thinner but also because part of any "soap's" job is to bond grease and dirt to water. I knew this going into the test but chose to use it at full strength because full strength Pine Sol has been proven to be an excellent carb soaking dip and that was the purpose of the video to compare it as a soaking dip to the same cleaner in an ultrasonic as I was wanting to compare apples to apples. The results I got were amazing so I imagine there is little room for improvement BUT it would be a lot more cost effective to use less Pine Sol and if the results were even better than that would simply be icing on the cake.

[@lawrencefranck9417]

The advantage of the ultrasonic cleaner is the interior passage cleaning

[@dazecars]

agreed!!

[@smiles7631]

I just bought the big Creworks with the knobs. I can't wait to try it out. Thanks!

[@dazecars]

Its amazing how well an ultrasonic cleaner works.

[@dexterousx92]

*Great comparison. The ultrasonic cleaner is started to be a very useful tool to mechanic and diyers. I cant wait to see what else it can be used for !!!*

[@dazecars]

you and me both

[@peanutbutterisfu]

I have the $60 ultrasonic cleaner from harbor freight I use at my shop to clean engine parts. I tried a bunch of the cheaper cleaners and the absolute best was “Awesome” cleaner I think they sell it at the dollar store. I should make a video but without any scrubbing I put an internal aluminum engine part with that baked on bronze color staining and in 5 minutes it looked like new.

[@dazecars]

Thanks for sharing

[@nathanw5747]

La's awesome will discolor / etch metal be warned look up videos on it discoloring motor blocks you have to really dilute it.. I use the hell of out of it just not in the ultrasonic cleaner .

[@dazecars]

thanks for the tip

[@wayne-oo]

A bit of Lemmon shine will improve your cleaning 10x !!

[@dazecars]

Thanks for the tip!

[@gordonliddy9418]

I've had good luck with the simple green pro hd. Be mindful that you don't get the cleaner too hot and check it every so often.

[@dazecars]

others have reported similar results, that it works well but keep in mind that does etch some metals

[@thomasheer825]

Have been doing this for several years now, often I will take small parts and stick them in a filled plastic cup and have outstanding results. The heat makes a tremendous positive difference. Normally I mix 50/50 Pine-Sol and water. Usually rinse it off with hot water and a soft brush or paint brush.

[@dazecars]

Pine sol is a proven carb cleaner. Lots of comments similar to yours including the improvements noted by using heat and a water pine sol mix. Thanks for sharing.

[@GeneralElectricCNC]

I use Simple Green to clean Aluminum before I T.I.G. weld it. It really cleans Aluminum very well. You should try that in your tub!

[@dazecars]

Great suggestion!

[@KJ7JHN]

Hey boss, could you pull out the old foot spa tub and compare, see if it'll work as an ultrasonic cleaner? Thanks!

[@dazecars]

let me get right on that 😂

[@Neilywop]

Did you try the heat function? If so did it make a difference? Thank you for the video.

[@dazecars]

no. not yet. I know it will maket it even better but have not had the opportunity to use that function yet.

[@johnvermicelli5649]

I used Pine -In the mid 70s Sol , I used Pine-Sol as my hand Cleaner after working on my cars . Also used it on my clothes with grease on them. Just apply it, let it soak in before putting in the wash . Don’t put it in with your regular clothes ! The smell gets overwhelming. Going to high school back in the day smelling Pine - Sol 😅 This was a time when Go Jo was being released.

[@dazecars]

Thanks for sharing!

[@pauljefferies9087]

Pine sol leaves a thin film of varnish like material when used. It would undoubtedly leave that film on the carb and interior passageways of the carb. What effect would that thin varnish like substance have upon The carb?

[@dazecars]

I have done quite a few tests with pine sol and there was no varnish at all, no film, no residue, nothing but clean metal. If it was an issue in the past it is not an issue now.

[@zillacon1]

Ive been using a mixture of CLR/water in my machine for carbs. Works incredible. Just make sure all screws and zinc coated parts are taken off as it will strip them.

[@dazecars]

thanks for the tip. What ratio of CLR to water?

[@ebinmaine]

Very interesting video. Appreciate you taking the time to make and post it. I've been cleaning Small Engine carburetors with lacquer thinner in a glass container which sets in the vat full of water. Seems effective. I've been wondering what other chemicals might be a little less aggressive. I may have to try this pine-sol.

[@dazecars]

Glad it helped. Thanks for watching. Pine sol is outstanding for some metals but can etch others. I would test before throwing something important in it but this video I made will also help kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5-mco13a62Hnrc

[@84c4corvetteguy5]

I have a 15L utrasonic cleaner that I use all the time. I put almost 2 gallons of water and 1 quart of Pine sol and I use the heat it works much better and takes way less time to clean. I can have the parts look like new in about 30 minutes. You may say I don't need to clean them that fast but I do a lot of motorcycle carbs so I clean 1 as I tear down another on Ialso work on a lot of Crossfire cars so I'm cleaning 1 throttle body while I'm tearing down or rebuiding the other also there is no need to spend so much money on all that Pine Sol. Also you can buy a Soda Blaster for about $30 (Harbor Freight) to getthe nooks and cranny's. I hope this helps. Good video!

[@dazecars]

glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for the tips

[@michaeloxlong]

Ultrasonic cleaners are amazing. I use one for any and all things that have any tight or hard to clean spots. They're quick and effective, and so long as youre not using anything harsh, they'll do the best job.

[@dazecars]

Thanks for sharing!!

[@WildXNatur]

How about taping a vibrating device to the side of the bucket like a hair clipper? Or a small blue tooth speaker playing your favorite music.

[@dazecars]

just to make sure I understand you are wanting to se a test comparing an improvised agitating cleaner compared to an ultrasonic?

[@timgile8144]

I use Simple Green. 1/4 c per liter of water. Very good results for me with the brown crud build up inside carbs

[@dazecars]

I have heard good things about simple green, I have also heard it can etch or discolor the metal.

[@Rambo-lc5bl]

Just advised, I made a mistake putting my goldwing full carburettor into ultra with TFR with a bad consequences now have to replace all internal rubber

[@dazecars]

You do need to be careful what you soak parts in. I always recommend testing first anytime using a cleaner that is not designed for that purpose.

[@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259]

When possible, I remove plastic parts as well. Nothing but metal.

[@dazecars]

👍

[@michaeldecker2725]

Wouldn’t you want to replace the rubber pieces anyway? I’m thinking the fuel we use now is corrosive and if you have the carb apart you’d want to update it anyway.

[@dazecars]

👍

[@kbjerke]

A few years ago, Pine-Sol had another ingredient in it that *REALLY* helped with removing nasty dirt and corrosion. I relied on it for conserving parts when I worked at the Guild of Automotive Restorers. It was a sad day when they removed that component. Thanks for the video!

[@dazecars]

To the best of my knowledge its the pine oil. Some of it still has it but a lot of pine sol no longer contains it.

[@kbjerke]

@@dazecars That certainly could be part of it (removed due to expense) but I think what worked in my projects may have been the glycolic acid. Whatever they did, after 2014 it didn't work as well for me. Happy New Year!!

[@dazecars]

I have heard good things about a cleaner called pinealen which does have pine oil in it not sure about the other active ingredients. Don’t know if it would work as well as older pine sol but it might.

[@kbjerke]

Good info, Thanks! But I no longer need it in my work, since I retired. But it may come in handy for my "hobbies". If you get a chance, you might enjoy watching videos from Guild Garage where we recreate (rebody) a 1935 Bugatti Aerolithe. Also it was featured on Jay Leno's Garage. I did *all* the rivets and my hands are still sore. LOL! Edit to add: The Aerolithe project body was built with 100% magnesium skin, as was the *original!* (Elektron.) It was a challenge to work with!

[@dazecars]

sounds like a "fun" project

[@firstielasty1162]

Remember that, if those were actually carburetors, they contain fuel passages and air bleeds that are usually inaccessible and difficult to clean. The ability to clean those is the real benefit of cleaning ultrasonically- the nice cosmetic effects are a great bonus. The cleaner might soften but not fully remove blockage from these often tiny passages, so always blow every single one out, meaning figure out where it goes, and be certain to verify flow through it. This requires some time and thought, but much less time than doing it twice. I verify flow with carb cleaner AFTER the ultrasonic clean, then blow air through everything. Former motorcycle mechanic... cleaned SO many carburetors, with and without ultrasonic. Often twice...you learn to be very careful and thorough the first time, it is is very much worth your time, even more so if it is a customer's machine that will be an embarrassing money loosing comeback.

[@dazecars]

excellent advice, thanks for sharing

[@markpinther9296]

Ultrasonic is such a great tool for carbs and tiny parts from carbs. I just use hot water and a TINY amount of Dawn dish soap. I also use very small plastic, watertight containers filled with the same liquid for tiny parts.

[@dazecars]

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[@timfitzpatrick7680]

Try a cleaner called Alconox. It is a concentrated powder (only need a tablespoon or two, with water added to fill the Ultrasonic). It works with the detergent in the powder but also creates tiny oxygen bubbles that lift the dirt etc.. right off the metal - sort of along the same lines of how toothepaste works. It is good stuff and non-toxic.

[@dazecars]

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[@dougderby9454]

Haven’t tried pine sol yet. Have a larger ultra tank. Can fit a twin cam alum head in it. Using the mean green instead of Simple green. Can take an oil stained and carbon casting to near new. Mix one gallon to two gallons of water. The heat does wonders also.

[@dazecars]

Thanks for sharing!

[@bradleyyounger8499]

Do they still sell carb acid? Use to get it by the gallon at Napa and similar. Best stuff ever

[@dazecars]

You can still get Chem-dip but I am not a fan of that. It works well but is costic and smells really bad

[@Mike-ti6hg]

The ultrasonic cleaner i have has a level of fill requirement. Up to the b ump out in the tank. Mine is half the size of yours but is an awesome cleaning tool. Highly recommend.

[@dazecars]

Mine has that same bump. I didn't quite fill to that level in the video but I have with subsequent uses.

[@billclisham8668]

I would have liked to have seen you reclean them both with the Pine-sol heated as well.

[@dazecars]

unheated got them totally clean and fairly quickly so safe to say heated would have done it in less time.

[@10thAveFreezeOut]

I've had good luck with PineSol in a baggie with carburetors. Takes a little rinsing afterward but cleans better than other things I've tried.

[@dazecars]

its an excellent carb cleaner as long as the body is aluminum. If its pot metal the zinc in potmetal reacts with the one sole and etches the finish.

[@warwolfx0]

The viscosity of Pine-sol might affect the cleaning, try diluting it in the ultrasonic, it seems kind of thick, and try it with just water to see if there is a difference.

[@dazecars]

That is an excellent point, not to mention that "soaps" are designed to bond filth, grime, and oils to water molecules so the detergent might actually be more effective if water was added. I have not had cause to use the cleaner since shooting this video but my next attempt I am planning a 50/50 mix

[@BillySBC]

With carburetors and throttle-bodies it's whether the inner passages are being cleaned and cleared out, not so much what the exterior looks like.

[@dazecars]

Correct, but the outside is easier to show on camera. The ultrasonic cleaner and P-S did wonders on these parts both inside and out.

[@buddyhaines]

The heat makes a tremendous difference!!!

[@dazecars]

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[@williamsantiago7303]

There's nothing in the description. What's the name of this unit so i can look it up in Amazon.

[@dazecars]

I checked and it IS in the description, not sure why it's not coming up for you. Here are a few links Amazon link to Ultrasonic Cleaner amzn.to/3HoeQLJ Walmart link to Ultrasonic Cleaner walmrt.us/490SJH0 Let me know if I can be of any further assistance

[@WrenchS13]

I have a smaller one that's much older and has a knob to turn and set time. the heater isn't separate so if the cleaner is on so is the heat. the timer quit working so I have to manually turn it off but it works wonders. just can't forget to set an alarm to turn it off or whatever cleaner I'm using in it will evaporate from the heat

[@dazecars]

They are a good tool to have

[@thomasbonnett2283]

I have a ultrasonic cleaner carburetors and other parts period I haven't tried fine at all but I'm anxious for my next project thanks for the cool video period

[@dazecars]

glad I could help

[@gsav6995]

What solvent would you use if the linkages were still attached to the throttle bodies. Some suggest pine sol pits steel. Any thoughts? Great vid.

[@dazecars]

PineSol can cause rust the surface line but does not seam to have that issue if the part is fully submerged. May cause pitting if soaked long term. I have heard good things about dishwasher and laundry pods with water but I would never try something without testing it on something similar that I was not concerned about getting messed up.

[@MartinKirklandll]

I am in Canada.I use a smaller Ultrasonic cleaner (has a heater option ).Been using Princess Auto car wash concentrate (between 10:1 to 20:1 mix with hot tap water).I pre clean the big gunk off with Brake cleaner first.It take a few cycles depending on how dirty but works well and soap is very cheap.(Plus use for pressure washing cars/trailers etc so have around anyway).I will try the Ziploc bag trick;will help with clean up of Ultrasonic unit if it works ok.

[@dazecars]

ziplock bag trick has mixed reviews. Some have found it very effective, others have had issues with leaks due to bag failure.

[@TheJefferson]

ive used pine oil concentrate for years in my ultrasonic, for all metals.

[@dazecars]

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[@thegreatchickenoverlord5976]

Does the pine sol evaporate off or leave residue or cause corrosion if not washed?

[@dazecars]

You MUST rinse it off. It is soap not a solvent like break clean

[@ScotEd-o2w]

I have an ATV carb that someone added draino to the fuel and made the float bowl corode bad the rest of carb is unhurt, I picked and scraped all I could used baking soda and toothbrush to scrub so far hasn't eaten up anymore but how dose pinesol work on corrosion

[@dazecars]

It is not very affective with corrosion. Most soap based chemicals are not going to tackle corrosion. If the carb body is for sure aluminum the white corrosion power is aluminum oxidize and is very resilient however something lye based will dissolve it BUT it will also etch the aluminum so you need to be very carful not to damage your part. 9do this at your own risk) Purple power is a lye based soap and may cut through the corrosion. lastly many carb bodies are not aluminum but rather pot metal so be extremely carful not to damage the metal as the main ingredient in pot metal is zinc and zinc is easily dissolvable in a verity of chemicals

[@JaredBowman.1]

I have an old brass carb from a tractor. Would pine sol be a better solution. I don’t want to destroy or etch the carb. It’s kind of hard to find parts or a replacement being over a hundred years old. Not exactly an off the shelf item. Thanks

[@dazecars]

pine sol can etch brass kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5-mco13a62Hnrc

[@JaredBowman.1]

@ thanks for the heads up!

[@dazecars]

happy to help

[@activemanishere]

You used the Walmart purple power. You should compare the Tacoma screw purple power with pineal Pine-sol. It's a very superior cleaner.

[@dazecars]

thanks for the suggestion

[@chefbink61]

The only thing I would be worried about is the ultrasonic wave damaging smooth surfaces. Because the ultrasonic wave produce microscopic bubbles that explode on the surface of whatever is in the bath. You can see this action by putting a piece of aluminum foil into the bath and turn the unit on. The aluminum foil will just start to disintegrate as the ultrasonic waves attack it.

[@dazecars]

You can't assume because it happens to aluminum foil that it would happen to something thicker. With thin metal like aluminum foil it totally makes sense that the ultrasonic could be destructive but not in the way you think. If you take a piece of aluminum foil and crease it and then fold it back and forth a bunch of times along that crease it will come apart at the crease. The bending action fatigues the metal causing it to come apart. The ultrasonic will create a smaller albeit way more repetitive version of the same thing throughout the entire sheet. Hence the sheet of aluminum disintegrating. A solid piece of aluminum will have the strength and support of its' thickness to eliminate this action.

[@MegaBruceC]

I just finally bought a sonic cleaner after doing the soak/scrub for years!

[@dazecars]

well worth the money

[@tonyp9179]

Would these degrease ur hands?

[@dazecars]

probably but I don't know how harsh it would be on your skin. You would for sure want to dilute it and then it still might aggravate the skin. Plus the smell is quite strong so your hands would likely smell of pine sol for days.

[@foxmaine3921]

$20 used turkey frirer with water and Dawn dish soap and 1 can of cheap carb cleaner. Boil the carb after removing plastic bits. Wtach the bubbles coming out clean the tiny passages. Remove the carb and parts as they boil for a bit of small wire brushing here and there. Once everything looks clean boil for 30 minutes. This works great on cars and motorcycles. Many know getting motorcycle carbs clean so they work like new is a terrible chore, not with a turkey frier.

[@dazecars]

interesting approach

[@Rebel9668]

Never tried pine-sol in my ultrasonic cleaner. I use Super Clean and it seems to do a pretty good job and is only $10.37 a gallon at our local Walmart. They want almost $9.00 for less than half a gallon (60 ounces) of Pine-Sol, so cheaper to use the Super Clean, especially after diluting.

[@dazecars]

I have never used Super Clean. I used the pine sol because it was a proven carb dip. Others have reported excellent results using the pine sol mixed 50/50 with water.

[@Rebel9668]

@@dazecars The first time I tried the ultrasonic I used Simple Green, and while it worked fine, I wasn't all that impressed with it. Really, I think plain water would probably do the job as it's the cavitation in the liquid from the ultrasonic vibrations that break up the deposits. Super Clean, being a degreaser just gives me a bit more confidence as most of the varnish and deposits on what I use my ultrasonic cleaner on are petroleum based. I personally only use non-ethanol 92 octane fuel in my small engines, but who knows what the previous owners used, lol.

[@dazecars]

There are some good videos already out there (not mine) that do a shootout with various cleaners in an ultrasonic to evaluate quality of clean and cost. they are worth a look.

[@chieft3357]

I've been using an ultrasonic cleaner for years to clean racing car parts. I also use the heating element. I'll have to try pine-sol

[@dazecars]

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[@ThisOldMan-ya472]

Amazon is sucking, as it is getting more difficult to find brand name quality products. It seems Amazon is replacing brand name products with cheap knock-offs.

[@dazecars]

That can be very frustrating. To help avoid this I always do searches on my computer rather than my phone and spend time going through lots of listings.

[@larryschweitzer4904]

I have an ultrasonic cleaner. It is easier than soak & scrub but not as good as what you show. Cheap model?? probably. I use the plastic bag method to save cleaner. Scrapping off the thickest stuff first helps a lot. I've tried Simple Green, Tide, Dawn and a commercial kitchen grease remover. Since it wasn't controlled comparisons, I don't know which is really best.

[@dazecars]

there are actually several really good videos out there (not mine) testing ultrasonic cleaner detergent options and comparing there cost and effectiveness.

[@johnbutler5650]

Not a plug, however, you can purchase a 2.37 gallon jug of Pinalin ( a type of pinesol alternative that is closest to original pinesol ) at Sam’s Club ( you can probably get the same thing at a Costco as well ).

[@dazecars]

outstanding alternative, thank you

[@patrickscycleshop]

Try boiling it. I've always used Yamaha carburetor cleaner. The quart containers they sell for soaking. I boil it and it works incredible, only takes about 20 minutes to soak the worst accumulation off any carburetors. I do a lot of motorcycle carburetors.

[@dazecars]

Thanks for the tip!

[@tommypugh1208]

I don't know if you your still messing with treadmill motors or not but I have one on my homemade Mill an when I turn it down on low it like pulsates do you know what would cause it to do that?

[@dazecars]

sounds like you have the cheap longer skinny SCR not the good one I recommend in all my videos

[@tommypugh1208]

No I bought the good one I even put a choke an a farite ring also had to change the potentiometer I put 2 on it like you showed to get the fine feed

[@dazecars]

As a test try running it without the choke. Don't run it long term this way just to see if that eliminates the problem. Have you added a capacitor to the system?

[@tommypugh1208]

No I haven't. Should I?

[@dazecars]

no but they can cause pulsing thats why I asked. It may be easier for you to contact me through my website so you can email me pix so I can see if there is something that jumps out at me.

[@NathanNostaw]

Maybe try a smaller tub with the part and solution sitting in the US cleaner with water to save the volume needed. Impressive results on the cleaning though.

[@dazecars]

That is a good idea. A simpler solution might be "a dummy part", something already clean sitting next to the carb body to displace the extra fluid volume needed.

[@NathanNostaw]

@@dazecars or a big jar full of water

[@dazecars]

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[@Walkercolt1]

Use Pine-Sol (tm) cleaner on a GM Rochester carb and you will need to buy a new carb because Pine-Sol (tm) attacks zinc (Zamac) used in ALL Rochester brand carbs. I was cleaning carbs in Berryman solvent cans before you were conceived. We got a 30 gallon barrel of it at the service station the first of each month. In 1968, it still contained phenol/benzene and everybody could tell what you did for a living (SUPER-STRONG "Lysol" smell!). It ate-up $5-6 (think $80 today) "neoprene" gloves in two minutes flat.

[@dazecars]

You are correct pine sol does etch zink and I do not recommend using it with zinc based carbs but it's not so aggressive as to ruin the carburetor. They will just discolor it unless you are soaking it for weeks.

[@johnbutler5650]

As an addendum: keep purple power as far away from anything magnesium as you can get it! It will blacken it immediately (!) and will etch the heck out of it soon thereafter.

[@dazecars]

its the lye in it.

[@X-22CamRS-SS-RS]

Thanks for the video. Point being is that ultrasonic cleaners are worth it. If you have to spend that much time on the outside of the carb to get it cleaned, just thing of all the ports and everything inside the carb that you cannot scrub. Carb might look good but you may never completely clean it to make it work properly.

[@dazecars]

Great point!

[@Dwigt_Rortugal]

I'm pining for an ultrasonic cleaner, but the pine-sol soak will have to do for now. "Like a Carolina pine forest!" I wonder if one of those smells different than a white pine forest.

[@dazecars]

I think pine is pine when it comes to smell 😂😂

[@Grumpyneanderthal]

I purchased the Vevor brand which had a digital or an analog control version. I chose the analog control version. Seems like digital controls don’t have the “life of analog controls in my experience.

[@dazecars]

good to know

[@TTTT-rc4fv]

Hi what solution of water and pine sol have you found to be best? I have a heavy gunked up carb with deposits. Also I have read that pine sol is not the same as it used to be, is this true? They removed certain properties I have read.

[@dazecars]

You are correct the formulation is different but I was using modern pine sol in the video so that is likely not a concern. Most have reported the best results with a 50/50 mix of pine sol and water in an ultrasonic and full strength as a dip. Be mindful of anything zinc on the carb as pine sol can etch zinc.

[@donwest5387]

I used vinegar for my cleaning solution (Weber carbs)

[@dazecars]

Thanks for the option

[@MartinKirklandll]

I wonder if that would also work for reload brass?

[@dazecars]

pine sol will etch brass a little bit kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5-mco13a62Hnrc

[@billb2832]

you should try these product Spray Nine 22732 Grez-off Heavy-Duty Degreaser it is also Unscented plus non flammable and biodegradable

[@dazecars]

Thanks for the tip. I will look into it.

[@kbjerke]

Had to subscribe, to keep up!

[@dazecars]

welcome to the party

[@mikewallace8087]

Nice Bass Guitar .

[@dazecars]

Thats why I picked that song

[@nastysoda9212]

main thing is the ultrasonic will get gunk out of parts you cannot reach, which is specifically important with carbs.

[@dazecars]

exactly!!

[@theperl9663]

I use "simple green" soap, mixed with water, works very well.

[@dazecars]

I have heard lots of people have had good results using that but I have also heard that like many of these other non tradition carb cleaners simple green can etch some metals.

[@theperl9663]

I also use clean plastic see-through nut containers with diluted simple green, holds small parts, injectors, screws, etc. Fill tank up to the same level as the containers. Works very well and no clean up of the tank. Reuse the containers with the used simple green for the next parts to be cleaned. Also simple green is biodegradable.

[@dazecars]

secondary container is a great trick.

[@rock-n-roll4865]

yes ziplock bags and plastic or glass bottles. carb in bag jets in bottle put some white vinegar jets come out pretty shiny

[@dazecars]

Thanks for the info

[@mikewallace8087]

In the Early 1970's I had a 5 gal. pail of Dow chemical carburetor cleaner . It was red and smelled strong. Luckily I did not contract a cancer.

[@dazecars]

sounds potent

[@mikewallace8087]

@@dazecars Lifted paint in 30 seconds.

[@dazecars]

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[@alant956]

Apples to Apples? You have a cleaner with heat…..use it, it makes a big difference! Lol

[@dazecars]

I hear ya. But it was more about the difference between ultrasonic cleaning and just soaking them, and I wanted to see if there was a difference in the results.

[@jeffalvich9434]

You can also place the part in a plastic bag and then fill the plastic bag with whatever cleaner solution you want to use then place it in the ultrasonic cleaner......you use less solution and the ultrasonic unit is clean ......

[@dazecars]

yes I have done that with subsequent cleanings although those throttle bodies were a bit big to try and put in "something else" Yes I could have used bags but there have been a lot of reports of bags leaking.

[@james35546]

I’ve always used 1/3 pinsol 2/3 water in my ultrasonic cleaner

[@dazecars]

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[@georgesimpson3113]

turn the heat on... it totally helps.

[@dazecars]

Agreed but the non ultrasonic soak wasn't heated so I wanted an apples to apples test.

[@pureblood5903]

Dirt will go everywhere in the part, when it settles it sticks. I recommend to swish the part around and pull it out while the machine is still on.

[@dazecars]

good tip

[@atm451]

I just wonder what ultra sonic chips taste like now

[@dazecars]

"ultra sonic chips"??

[@honkie247]

I used Pine-Sol to clean a 13 hp Honda carburetor in my ultrasonic cleaner. It ate pieces out of the carb bowl. Thought it was because of the ultrasonic cleaner, so I tried putting the rest of the carb in a plastic container and cover it with Pine-Sol. It severely etched the carb. Beware what you use to clean different carb parts.

[@dazecars]

That is not an aluminum bodied carburetor. It's likely pot metal which is mostly zinc and yes pine-sol will etch pot metal. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5-mco13a62Hnrc

[@ProblemChild-xk7ix]

Use the heat on the ultrasonic. It makes a big difference.

[@dazecars]

I was aware of how much better it works with heat but opted to do it cold as an apples to apples comparison because the soaked part was not going to be heated.

[@tonybernheim8365]

Yes..Hank T5B..Chem Dip..Just remove plastic/rubber components first..Then just submerge in a clean metal container..Just use Lemon Pine Sol for the floors and toilets where it belongs....

[@dazecars]

Thank you for your comment

[@Hank-t5b]

CHEM DIP is by far the best ever!!!!

[@dazecars]

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[@tonybernheim8365]

Yes..Chem Dip..

[@dazecars]

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[@jimbo5728]

The areas you CAN'T reach with your brush get "scrubbed" by the ultrasound.

[@dazecars]

yes they do

[@jimhmod]

Don't leave a carburetor in a bucket of Pine Sol for a month. I'm not sure what it does on the molecular level but it turned a Bendix/Zenith carb a dark grey that does not wipe off.

[@dazecars]

It has to do with the carb body material. Yours must have been something other than aluminum, my guess would be a zinc alloy . kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5-mco13a62Hnrcsi=lDItvTZnd5SYrxRW

[@jimhmod]

@@dazecars I do believe that the Bendix carbs are a zinc based carb. It all your fault for not making your video two years ago, LOL!!

[@dazecars]

I will try and make future videos in a more timely fasion 😂😃🤣

[@robertries7774]

Heat is the key to any good ultrasonic cleaner, the hotter the better.

[@dazecars]

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[@gregsmith2262]

I have seen people fill a plastic bag of cleaning solution with the part in it and fill the ultrasonic cleaner with water. Just to save on the amount of solution needed.

[@dazecars]

yes a secondary container is a good trick

[@Ignaz1894]

I'm too lazy to read all the comments but you need a specific frequency for putting aluminum in an ultrasonic as most off-the-shelf Ultrasonics will pit aluminum

[@dazecars]

I appreciate the comment but you need to know, that is a myth and like all good myths based in a misapplied truth. The pitting has to do with the cleaning solution used not the ultrasonic action directly . The ultrasonic action exacerbates the pitting caused by the chemicals leading people to believe that it was the ultrasonic cleaner that damaged the aluminum not the solution. In other words, if you put an aluminum safe liquid in an ultrasonic cleaner and turn the ultrasonic cleaner on there will be no pitting and no damage, but if you put a cleaner in the ultrasonic that has chemicals in it that react with aluminum there can be pitting. The ultrasonic action Will cause most any chemical reaction to be far more aggressive than without the ultrasonic action. That is why it worked well in my black oxide coating experiment. The Takeaway is not to believe the myth that aluminum should never be put in an ultrasonic cleaner, but rather to know that it can go in an ultrasonic cleaner but you must be very careful with what kind of a cleaning solution you use for aluminum or there may be pitting.

[@PapiDoesIt]

My experience with pinesol is that it has to be the original tree smelling stuff and not the fruity stuff.

[@dazecars]

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