Shopsmith Base Restoration

[@jeffrowlette]

I inherited my father's greenie....condition basically exactly as yours was before restoration. Thank you.....I'm going to do this too!!!!!

[@mattmakes6065]

Good luck!! And have fun with it!

[@Old52Guy]

I also have one of the Greenies. It was my Dad's who bought it used in 1950. Glad I found your channel. It still works but the years have taken a toll. Thanks!

[@mattmakes6065]

So cool that you still have it! Head to Shopsmith.com. You can get yours back to new with a little time!

[@WoodworkingforAnyone]

I'm always grateful my dad bought good tools :)

[@Old52Guy]

@@WoodworkingforAnyone 😃

[@richardg3232]

I'm restoring a couple of 510's and have a greenie I was going to give away but may restore it now. I got my first shopsmith in the 70's and love these machines. Thanks for sharing. I'm glad this video didn't have music. The 510 upgrade video you did was harder to hear with music. I subscribed!

[@helmuttdvm]

I‘m doing this on another old Greenie right now - thanks for the instructions!

[@mattmakes6065]

Good luck!

[@MyGrowthRings]

NIce job on the restoration! Happy sawdust. Scott

[@mattmakes6065]

Thank you, sir! And thanks for your videos as well!

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@mattmakes6065 I look forward to seeing where you will take her!

[@MyGrowthRings]

@@mattmakes6065 My pleasure.

[@spencerevenhouse8175]

Nice im just about to start on a shop smith restoration this video is very helpful

[@mattmakes6065]

Good luck!

[@Spicytunafreak83]

Your greenie looks better than most 510-520s lol! Great job!

[@mattmakes6065]

Thank you!

[@arthilliker3721]

Great job ! Looks really good ! I believe you're going to really like your new "friend" !! I LOVE mine !!

[@mattmakes6065]

Thanks!! I do love this tool. I've finished the restoration and upgraded to a 510 table, and I'm loving it! Stick around, I'm getting the videos together for the tables, set up, and jointer!

[@mars1952]

Next time you might want to drill the new holes for casters before you paint. It looks nice!

[@yamlcase230]

Dude, thank you for making this video. I just inherited my Dad's rusty old Mark V and had no idea how useful it would be. Can you share a link on the casters? That's the first thing I need to fix.

[@joek511]

Just purchased a 1983 model. It needs work, but still works. Looking forward to giving it an overhaul.

[@mattmakes6065]

That's awesome and for luck! I had a lot of fun restoring mine

[@glengenet9740]

I think I have the same model in my storage unit. I look forward to your progress. And some tips along the way.

[@mattmakes6065]

It's a great machine so far. I hope you enjoy the rest of the videos, and good luck with yours!

[@stargazer9713]

I worked for the inventor of the shop smith.Hans Goldschmit. i saw the wooden prototype in his office. This was in Atherton ,Ca at Lindenwood Estates.#1 Flood Circle. He also wrote many books. interesting machines.

[@mattmakes6065]

That must have been pretty cool to see the design go from concept to product!

[@WoodworkingforAnyone]

Wow that is incredible.

[@PistonHonda87]

I wonder where that prototype is at now?

[@benflannery7367]

I’m getting ready to restore a 510’s headstock myself! Looking forward to your pointers

[@mattmakes6065]

Awesome! Hopefully I can help out!

[@tantaluss68]

wow is that a nice buffer

[@delxmax]

EvapoRust is instrumental in a Shopsmith resto. I use a Rustoleum Textured as a base coat for everything except the head unit then SS Touchup Grey or your preference.You might want to get an 1-1/8HP motor rather than that 3/4HP Greenie motor..that base arm pin can be a bear! Thanks for sharing, good job!

[@mattmakes6065]

EvapoRust is on my list of things to get. I've heard nothing but good things. As far as a bigger motor, that's also on my list. I saw one on FB Marketplace a while ago for like $80. Didn't buy it. Now I have non-buyers remorse...

[@delxmax]

@@mattmakes6065 cool, join the SS Sales Group on fb, deals going on there all the time. I have a complete headstock I can part with.

[@mattmakes6065]

I'll have to check it out! I don't need a while headstock at the moment, but I am looking for a motor

[@WoodworkingforAnyone]

Is that three buffing wheels on a lathe?

[@anthonylandrum63]

Thanks for sharing.

[@LowerLights81481]

I just started tearing down a model 500 from the early 80’s. I pulled the wheel assemblies off to restore. On one set I was able to get the set screw out but when I tried to get the screws out on the other set it stripped them. Do you have any advice?

[@mattmakes6065]

Stripped screws are a pain. If it's a button head screw you can try to cut a slot for a flathead. Otherwise you might have to drill and use an easy out. Good luck!

[@LowerLights81481]

@@mattmakes6065 unfortunately it’s the hex set screws on the inside of the cam on the Shopsmith wheel assembly. I think they used locktite. I was going to try using an easy out but not sure that would do any good with the locktite.

[@mattmakes6065]

You can try getting some penetrating oil in there first. Hit it with some heat. Heat should loosen the loctite. An easy out is still the best way if you can't get any purchase on it.

[@KP-yx1fn]

The lower tubes do not support any tooling and many are rusted up. On my rebuilds I have started to sand lower tubes and paint them. Looks good and you dont have to maintain them.

[@jerbear7952]

Thanks for the tip

[@jerbear7952]

Are they interchangeable with the top way tubes?

[@dianaarnold368]

Impressive! How is the roll pin REMOVED from the base pivot? There is access from only one side .

[@mattmakes6065]

If I remember correctly, there's a hole in the base that you can drive it through if it's aligned right.

[@dianaarnold368]

Thanks, Matt!

[@dpjwood1]

Can you do a video on your polishing wheel setup?

[@mattmakes6065]

There isn't much to it. I bought it on Amazon and it is made to be used on most standard wood lathes. Comes with everything I used, including polishing compounds. Here's the link to it if you're interested. I personally love it PSI Woodworking LBUFFSYS 3-Step Lathe Buffing System a.co/d/7ubcQRc

[@Fightergator01]

Quick question from a novice: Did you use mineral spirits to clean off the rust? And then I see you using acetone on sanded parts. Is this a common/standard practice? Also, after wire brushing, did you use a scotch pad for more "sanding"? Why use the "plastic" pad? Hope these aren't stupid questions.

[@mattmakes6065]

Not at all. Gotta learn somehow, right? Mineral spirits were used because that's what I had, they were mostly for the heavy build up of everything. For bare rusted steel, I've used WD-40 and steel wool to great effect. I used the acetone after sanding to make sure the parts were really clean before painting to make sure I got a good bond. As for the scotch Brite pads, think of them the same way you think of sandpaper. They almost have a "grit" to them and can get finer and finer surface finishes.

[@levirasplicka671]

What wheel casters did you use. I am restoring my 88 510 and the wheels are jacked. I could use any and all info you have

[@mattmakes6065]

I used the kit from Shopsmith. They work great, but are a little pricey (as all new Shopsmith parts are). I've heard Amazon has a set that works well, but I don't know from experience.

[@tim-hypnotherapist]

Are you using a small lathe for a buffer?

[@mattmakes6065]

Yes. I found some buffing wheels and arbor on Amazon a while back. Works pretty well and saves space!

[@tim-hypnotherapist]

@@mattmakes6065 I thought so...but wanted to confirm...what a great idea.

[@Ashton351]

Thanks! Would you be able to pause and hold us the products you use for the camera? I'm trying to figure out what you used to clean the tubes.

[@mattmakes6065]

I used a bunch of things. The things that work best are steel wool or Scotch Brite and WD-40 for the rust. Cleaned with acetone or alcohol. Buffed with Johnson's paste wax. If the rust is really bad you can use a fine wire wheel with an angle grinder first.

[@Ashton351]

@@mattmakes6065 Have you found a subtitute for Johnson's? It looks like they've stopped making it. I've heard that Trewax and a Minwax product are good.

[@mattmakes6065]

I had no idea they stopped... That sucks. I've seen a guy using Trewax on his Shopsmith for decades. That should get you just fine.

[@Ashton351]

@@mattmakes6065 Thanks again!

[@thefloridaplumber2631]

How many cans of paint did it take to repaint it?

[@mattmakes6065]

I think it took 3 cans of each green, 2 or 3 cans of the regular primer, and 1 can of the rust converting primer.

[@thefloridaplumber2631]

@@mattmakes6065 thanks. I got a 1956 model that is needing a touch up.

[@mattmakes6065]

I think the classic green is a great look on these. Much better than the new gray. Very cool that you can still get the right colors from shopsmith, but they are pretty pricey. About $15 a can. I think it was worth it, though.

[@thefloridaplumber2631]

@@mattmakes6065 I agree! Yeah after watching your video I really want to repaint mine. It was my great grandfather's so it would be worth it.

[@mattmakes6065]

That's awesome! I definitely recommend getting yours fixed up and useable. Your great grandfather would love that it's still being used, I'm sure!

[@johnanthony2545]

I have a Goldie mark 5 from the 60s and my dads Mark 5 from the1980 grey and black. What was the cost of original paint colors fro shop smith if you don’t mind me asking. I’m in the process of just getting every thing in working order on those two while doing same to China knock off “Total Shop” duplicate of mark 5. Yes I have 3 lol. 2 will be sold for sure.

[@mattmakes6065]

The paint wasn't cheap as far as paint goes. I think it was almost $20 a can. They have the greenie, Goldie, and gray paints.

[@johnanthony2545]

@@mattmakes6065 thanks. It looks great what you have done. I’m sure I can find a gold but of course theirs is a bit different than a traditional gold from a hardware store. To bright And it will look gaudy.

[@mattmakes6065]

You gotta go with the Shopsmith original. It's what will look best and keep it original. I was mad about the price but I got over it when I saw the finished product.

[@st8kout961]

I picked up a used Shopsmith cheap just because the chrome tubes were rusty. All it took was a can of Johnson's paste wax (and elbow grease) to shine them up again like new.

[@mattmakes6065]

That's a great find! I really do love this machine

[@_BigLife_]

Nice job. I just received my grandfather's Shop Smith and I'm about to go through clean and check everything. What brand casters did you use, also what polishing station / setup are you using? Looks nice.

[@mattmakes6065]

Thanks! I used the Shopsmith caster upgrade. I hear there's a cheaper version on Amazon. The polishing set up was another Amazon find: PSI Woodworking LBUFFSYS 3-Step Lathe Buffing System a.co/d/6OSGWw5

[@2000ISP]

Nice video! what was the liquids you used on the tubes ? looking forward to next video

[@mattmakes6065]

Initially it was mineral spirits, but that didn't do too much. After the grinding and scotch brite, I cleaned them with acetone.

[@aarons2moody]

I just got a 55 with everything but a jigsaw for 100 bucks!

[@mattmakes6065]

🤯🤯🤯 what a steal!!!

[@chrisp7957]

Nice

[@christinehart5724]

It’s just a shame that ShopSmith only has the gray paint. No paint for greenies or goldies. Glad you’re doing this rebuild. With the headstock next, will you be upgrading it in any way? Just wanted to let you know that it’s good to see you putting in the time to improve this ShopSmith greenie.

[@mattmakes6065]

They do sell the greenie and goldie paint still! I got the paint from them. I'm loving the color scheme of the classics over the gray. It's not exactly the same shade, but I think it looks great. As far as the headstock, no upgrades as of yet. New bearings as needed. I will be looking for the 1 1/8 hp motor eventually. Can't afford/justify the PowerPro just yet!

[@christinehart5724]

@@mattmakes6065 thanks for letting me know about the paint, as I had been told that it was not available, the two bearings upgraded is helpful. The larger motor is well worth finding. That power pro is the 🐈 meow! Looking forward to seeing your next video’s. As I have a Mark VII that could use a redo. So far I have two Mark V’s, a 500 and a 510. Both are in good shape, the power head on the 510 needs cleaning. Before running. Thanks again Allan

[@mattmakes6065]

I'd love the power pro, but that's a spendy upgrade! Someday, hopefully. Waiting for my 510 upgrade to show up today, actually! Looking forward to that!

[@christinehart5724]

@@mattmakes6065 the ShopSmith’s that I have are second hand. The Mark V 500 that I bought new with the complete package for 1987, I sold to a family member in1992 to go to school in Memphis, TN I just missed getting a Power Pro that was up for sale a couple of months ago. So maybe someday we will a Power Pro.🤠

[@mattmakes6065]

We can dream, right?!

[@giveemtheboot5123]

Don't spin the dial when it isn't on. This caused me a ton of issues since the manual recommends against it.

[@ironman7261]

That model by the paint job was built between 59 and 63 I have the same. The earliest were green and after 63 got at didn't paint job the info is on their web site

[@fdegeorge2000]

Please edit this video ! turning the speed control without the headstock turning WILL destroy quadrant and control.

[@mattmakes6065]

Well, it won't. Because it didn't. That being said, you're right that it is definitely not best practice to do it that way.