I’m a woman who is 4’11” with a 25” inseam and I ride a Kawasaki Versys 650 and a KLR 650. My Versys came at stock height of 33”, I lowered the bike with lowering links and shaved my seat to get the height to 29”. Once you get the techniques down to mount and dismount, it is very doable. Yes, I have to watch where I stop and I need to get off and manually push the bike to get it into a good parking spot but this bike is a pure joy to ride. I put about 20,000km on her last summer and looking to do at least another 30,000km this season.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
I love this! So badass! Especially so because you describe riding it as a “pure joy”.
@nigelchapman12912 жыл бұрын
Hurrah! Yes! a kindred spirit. I'm also 4'11' 25" inseam. I'm 66 now (bloke) and still ride a GSR750. Everything you say is bang on. Even lowered, it's one tip toe even if the video advise is followed. I've done 50 years on a bike like this. It's really slow speed stuff where a tumble can come, depending on the camber of the road. As you will know sometimes a left footed stop is impossible if the road camber is steep. You get my vote, I understand completely the snags that you are dealing with... It can be done though!! Bravo!
@papatorr3669 Жыл бұрын
I wonder. I'm 5'4". The inseam is measured on pants. My jean's inseam measure 26" after a visit to the tailor. If you don't have a tailor, you may not be that short. My leg inseam is about 29", depending on where I start measuring from my low hanging fruit. I bought a KLR650 and planned to get a lowering kit. But that would have compromised it's clearance, not good. It was like a Three Stooges routine to watch me take off and stop on that bike. If I put the side stand up to mount the bike and leaned it over enough for me to get a leg over it, I couldn't get it upright. If I mounted it with the side stand down, I had to push it up right with my left leg then quickly shift my arss to the other side so my right leg could stop the bike from falling on its right side. But the side stand is still down and my left leg can't reach the side stand to bring it up. So I would shift to the left so that I could reach it but now the weight is on the side stand again and I can't bring it up though I can reach it. The dance I came up with was dangerous without it being laden down... So I bought a DR650! I'd like to see the KZbin video of someone even shorter than I dealing with the side stand issue. Let me know if you make one!
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
It sounds like the Roy Rogers technique would be a good idea for you. This is where you flip the stand up, put your left foot on the left peg, begin pulling on the throttle, and as the bike starts moving all in one motion swing your right leg over the bike. It 25° in Wisconsin now, but as soon as it’s warm enough to ride, I’ll do a video on this.
@shelleyknowles7348 Жыл бұрын
Right on! I am also 4’11” looking to buy my first adventure bike. I am SO excited to get out there and hit some dirt.
@msims12502 жыл бұрын
I’m 5’6” with a 28” inseam. My bike-the 2021 Africa Twin base model, not the AS with ES. I utilize the factory low seat in the lowest position. I can tippy-toe both feet, or flat-foot one foot. I dang sure have to think ahead at stoplights, in parking lots, at gas stations, etc. But I absolutely love the bike and I gain confidence each time I go out. My dream bike has always been the BMW R1250 GS, and I intend to have one in the near future, but for now, the Africa Twin has exceeded all my expectations and I’m really enjoying riding it. Thanks for sharing your perspective.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely a different experience than bikes with lower seat heights. Like you, the AT has exceeded my expectations and it'll be awhile until I find another bike that I love this much. The R1250 GSA might be the only one that would win me over. Thanks for watching!
@jseevers812 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain, I’m 5’7 with 28” inseam.
@DNOYPIANGLER Жыл бұрын
Yup, 5'6" also. I own a 2021 ATAS Manual. Go to GS and you need to bring more wrench.
@totalglitch Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that info I'm 57 and 29 inseam but got some lbs to squish but was wondering about that.
@waterhouse2352 жыл бұрын
Reading comments, people you are not short! I'm 5' 4" with a 29" inseam
@is_what_it_is2 жыл бұрын
wow, I'm jealous, I'm 5' 4" also but only 24" inseam. I've resorted to riding sportsers because of the skinny seat and low seat height so I can be flat footed at a stop. I could ride a larger cruiser but the saddles are sow wide I'm left feeling very inadequate and unsure when stopping. PS: Finding pants the fit is impossible!😉
@ricardoc748 Жыл бұрын
1,58m (+/- 5'3) with 70,5cm (+/- 27") and I'm looking into getting my riding license and got into the vortex of "let's find out tips and tricks for riding tall bikes!". And then, I watch the video (edit: any given vídeo, not this one in particular) to be told at the end the presenter is 15cm taller than me. "I can barely tip tip on an African Twins" - dude, my feet float if I sit on that motorcycle! Just like a 6yo sitting on a mountain bike. 😂😅
@nsparacino2 жыл бұрын
For the first 20 years of riding, at 5’7” I avoided dirt and adv bikes because I just figured I was too short…. Finally gave it a try and it’s a total nothingburger. My 690 smc-r has a 35” seat height and never had a problem. Can’t believe it took me so long!
@johnanderson9735 Жыл бұрын
I lowered my AT with the HyperPro Spring set for a reduction of .25 mm, and I am also using a single piece Seat Concepts seat to round out the setup. So far it is working great. The springs also helped stop what I thought was excessive front dive during braking.
@ZePanthersGang Жыл бұрын
As someone who is 6’8 the AT has been an amazing bike to accommodate me. Hope Honda never changes it!
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
It’s the best bike I’ve ever ridden.
@MalfunctioningAndroid Жыл бұрын
How's the weather up there?
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
What do you think? Do you feel the challenge of riding a tall ADV bike is worth it? Here is the link to the video on how to use the TFT display: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJ_Cl3eBoZ2ogq8 Like What you watched? Support Me: koji.to/k/6F4i
@BikerGirlTraveler2 жыл бұрын
Here is my 2 cents worth. I think that manufactures need to reconsider how they make their ADV bikes. Yes I get why they are tall, but that it cool for those planning to do some technical riding. I think that most people never will. For me traveling the back country roads of Central and South America is pretty much it. I have a Tenere 700 and I am 5’ 8”. I have no problem handling the bike on flat streets even though I am in my tors when I stop, but those of us who ride internationally and I imagine those who do sone off roading, often deal with streets and terrain that is not leveled and smooth. I’ve been living in Tijuana, Mexico for over a year now. A lot of Tijuana is nothing but hills. Some very steep stuff. Not only are the streets steep but they are deeps and potholes and sometimes even loose gravel. There is one hill that if you have to stop going up, you better use the rear break to hold the bike in place because if you use the front wheel it will lock and drag as the bike rolls backwards. You need to use the rear bake to put the weigh of the bike on the rear wheel. Restarting is super tricky. I know, it happened to me. Don’t even try it in the rain (I ride rain ir shine). Some streets have a lean at 90 degree angle from your direction of travel. So when you come to a stop at a stop sign, you better make sure that you stop perfectly straight, because if your bikes starts to lean to the downhill side, well, there is nothing but air waiting for your foot. You can slide your butt off the seat, and still not reach the ground. Your bike and you will take a nasty fall downhill and who know where it will stop. That almost happened to me once. I came to a stop a bit too hot and my bike started to tilt downhill, I knew that putting my foot down was 100% useless. There is no way I could had reach the floor. I was lucky that there was no cars going down the street I wanted to cross. So what I did is that I turned the front wheel downhill and gave it gas. The bike went downhill and I rode it off. I am sure that to people watching it might had looked like I intentionally turned downhill. That was not the case. I had to go hone and change my undies after that one, just about. Riding a tall and top heavy bike like the T7 in those hills are nothing but scary and takes every bit of concentration, ability to think fast and find solutions in a split second to something you have never trained for or seen before, and lots and lots of luck. To this day I thank my God that I haven’t fall. My point is that when I see videos of people saying not to lower your bike, or to do sone trick or another (I used to be one of them), in my head ai laugh. It’s obviously that they have been riding mostly in even or fairly even roads. I would like to see them riding in the hills near where I live. There is one street that I don’t dare to go down a bike. Doing it in a car is scary enough. I would have to wear some adult diapers for that one and some good body armor, just in case. By the way, yes, switching to seat there are some compromises, like confort. But I wonder if that is only with manufacture seats. It seems that manufactures don’t put a lot of thought designing seats. It’s more like they just put a seat because they have to, not because they want to. 😂 Which is stupid. But, how about a lower custom made seat. I am thinking about getting the Corbin seat for my bike. It looks like the most confortable there is for my bike. I have a gel seat cover, but even that kills my butt about just an hour or hour and a half of riding. There are two versions of the Corbin seat for my T7, but at 600-700 bucks they are very expensive. I really can’t understand why manufactures do such a lousy job designing the stock seats. May be they want us to spend the money.
@ryanm.91972 жыл бұрын
I'm a relatively short dude at 5'7" and have decided most adv bikes are too tall for me to ride comfortably. If it is a light dual sport, I'm fine but once the weight of the bike gets up there, the height of the bike becomes a safety issue so I opt not to deal with the issue. I'd rather ride a dual sport off road than muscle a 500lb SUV anyway. I've always thought that a taller person telling a shorter person to just get used to it is nonsense. The taller person should just add 8 inches to their seat on their already tall bike and see if they can just get used to it. It's not so easy and the height is a real issue to us short people. BTW, I just picked up a Lowrider S yesterday. I'm really looking forward to more vids of yours in the future.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
At 5'9", I'm definitely not tall. I'm sorry if I made it seem like I was saying that shorter riders should just get used to taller bikes. My intent was to give shorter riders that have a desire to ride tall bikes, or on the fence about riding them, some tips to make it easier.
@tedsalmon25332 жыл бұрын
I'm 5'7 with a 29 inch inseam and I ride a Suzuki vstrom 650 with a 32 inch seat ht. I'm able to easily flat foot with my left foot while keeping my right foot on the peg/brake. Sometimes I have to move my butt over slightly to accomplish this but overall it's easy. I love the bike.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
As a shorter rider, the challenge of riding these taller bikes makes me love it more.
@diesel4ever2732 жыл бұрын
@@GreatEgret i don't know how 5'9 is short, there everyone must be as tall as the empire state building... I'd consided 5'9 medium, maybe even closer to tall. I'm 5'5, i consider myself medium-short. This also depends on the average height on where you live, i guess, but here it's around 173cm for men, which is around 5'7 if I'm not mistaken.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
When I created this video, I expected this to be a helpful tool for anyone feeling challenged by a tall adventure bike. I didn’t expect a debate about the description of my height, but here goes: It’s not based on the average height of everyone in the world, your country, city, or even five of your best friends. Any rider that can’t flatfoot a bike with both feet is short for the bike, regardless of how tall the rider is.
@WetBananaMike2 жыл бұрын
Well look at you being all comfortable on a TALL Adventure Bike!! 😁 Great video as always sir! I also noticed that my “reach” seat on the Pan Am was less than desirable as well compared to the stock seat. I did combat the longer distance discomfort with a Airhawk seat pad. It does raise me about a 1/4-3/8”, but I would rather have comfort over something I can manage like seat height. Thank you for the info my friend, stay safe out there!!!
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I miss riding with you! We gotta make that happen! I'm planning a TW*T ride in April and maybe a long BC/Alaska trip sometime in 2022. I'd love to have you along for the ride.
@abyields7831 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thank you for taking the time to share with us. As a short rider, I love watching videos like this one, we just need to adapt and overcome by training and thinking ahead. Stay safe and ride on, glad I found this channel!
@jasonshortphd2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Yes, they are tall. It really comes down to not feeling the need to put down BOTH feet. Just one our the other. On my Tiger 800 I had to tip toe even with one foot, taught me some great balance control but I was always nervous. The Tiger 900 center of gravity is lower, and the bike is about 3/4” lower too. That was enough for me. I can flat foot my left and that is good enough. A tip for making sure the weight ends up on the left, always turn left a little and use front brake for that last little stop - it will move the weight forward and left. Then straighten bars while at a stop. Occasionally you will end up off camber and and have no chance to touch. Slide a butt cheek off and rotate your right hip a bit. You WILL get the left foot down, even if the right is dangling. Use that front brake to keep the bike stopped in that case. I will say that riding adventure bikes now makes me never nervous on anything else. If you can ride and control the weight it will make you a more confident rider on other bikes. And yes, the super high ride height is awesome. I can look into SUVs while riding because I am higher, and you can stand on the pegs and see over almost anything other than a semi.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Man, I love this community. Such great tips! Thanks Jason. While recording the ride part of this video, I was next to a van and thought how great it is to see over nearly every vehicle on the road while riding my AT!
@mohamadzeinedine97022 жыл бұрын
I fully agree and i do the same practice on my AT 2019 stock model, but this is in situations where everything goes normal and smoothly, the problem is your body position is set up to lean on the left and suddenly you are in situation for some reason the bike has leaned on the opposite side and you right foot is already dangling in the air or stretched to the max on the right foot peg... and the free fall will happen then , ahhhh (happened to me twice during that last two years on the AT) it is really bad and nothing you can do about it, just wait until you hit the ground happened to me one time at a slippery floor in a gas station where i was about to park and suddenly the front wheel slipped a little bit, and one touch on the right side would have stabled the bike but unfortunately my left legs was already on the floor and no control the right side :(
@daanov20 күн бұрын
Thank you for filming this
@bakertex2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I’m 5’9 and this is my dream bike.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It’s a fun bike to ride!
@BulldogBadger2 жыл бұрын
Great video Joe, they are tall but once you ride them they are not too tall to cope and enjoy.. once you are cruising along they are super comfortable and most off road riding is in a standing position, so I agree with you.. yes they are too tall but it shouldn’t put anyone off because you do very quickly get used too it 👍
@diesel4ever2732 жыл бұрын
How do you get the kickstand up if you can't reach it with the other leg and it doesn't have the little thing to pull with the heel?
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Lots of options: Put it up before you get on and… 1. ride off as you throw your right leg over the bike. 2. Have a friend balance the bike as you get on 3. Practice balancing the bike with the engine off in your yard, driveway, or garage. After awhile you be good enough to balance the bike as you get on with the kickstand up.
@KSMotoCafe2 жыл бұрын
lol that measuring the inseam was perfect! Glad you made this video because I am really concerned about not being able to flat foot on the adventure bikes. The Pan America has a nice feature where it lowers the seat a good inch when it comes to a stop. Great video!
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Like a lot of things in motorcycling and in life, riding a challenging bike like an adventure bike takes practice. That's what makes it so much fun. That challenge. The PA adaptive ride hight is really nice and I bet it won't be long before other brands have similar tech on their flagship adventure bikes.
@pbservano2 жыл бұрын
I just got my dream bike 2022 Africa Twin DCT Sports ES..... I'm 5'8" I can barely tip toe the standard seat. So I purchased the the next lower seat. A lot better, and with your technique, now I feel confident I can tame this beast. LOL.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
It’s a fun bike to ride and a lot fun for short people like us to figure out how to ride.
@ozziejim84722 жыл бұрын
I compared the tenere with the African twin in the showroom and the yam is off the list ! The Honda wasn’t too bad for my 30” inseam.
@Rdodo672 жыл бұрын
5'7", I ride the older Adventure sports (2019). I use the low seat on its high setting when I commute and usually the standard seat on other rides. I have to hang off the seat a fair bit. It takes some practice but it becomes easier. Thanks for the video.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
I rarely used the low seat, so I sold it. I like the standard seat in the high position because it the most comfortable I think. I have to hang off the seat too and like you said, it becomes easier with a bit of practice. Thanks for watching!
@ifilmhackersdotcom2 жыл бұрын
I'm 6'2" with a Corbin seat in the low position and I cannot flat foot both feet. My biggest fear is to come to a stop in traffic going up on a hill. It's torture.
@jthompson618911 ай бұрын
I couldn't flat my last adv bike, so I just used my left foot for stops....as you should anyway. I developed a really good stopping habit, that is optimal anyway.
@AT2021Rocker2 жыл бұрын
I’m 5’10” and I can 95% flat foot my 2021 AT. Love it!
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
I’m a smidge shorter than you and I keep the seat in the height position all the time because it’s more comfortable with how the foot pegs are setup. I love the AT.
@lf3skillz921 Жыл бұрын
I'm 5'5" 158lbs and ride a CB500F comfortably, plus my dirtbike has a 35" seat height. I was surprised to fit on my friends 03 v-strom 650 just as easily.I want an AT so bad, just waiting for the right deal.
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
The AT is a great bike! It’s so popular, so deals are hard to find. M as my used bike cost nearly as much as new ones.
@VineV-Dutch Жыл бұрын
I'm 6ft6, all adventure bikes are to small. Stop complaining: beds, cars, seats, tables, are YOUR size. You don't hear me complain everything is to small, now so ya. So put a sock in it!
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
I’m actually not complaining about anything. This video is useful information for shorter riders that may be interested in riding bikes that they may consider too tall for them.
@tungym Жыл бұрын
I love what you said. If you a dream girl that is 3 inches taller than you, you will adjust yourself to adapt......and enjoy the ride.😁
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! This was a fun video to make.
@MMRF873 ай бұрын
The problem isn't only being high, but also top heavy. I moved from a T7 to a Super Tenere 1200 and even if the ST is way heavier, it doesnt feel so top heavy. Also lower seat ( adjustable)
@Bruno-my9uf Жыл бұрын
I agree ... Thank you #!!!!! . finally sombody talks about this problem !!!!!
@hardworkingamerican8847 Жыл бұрын
I have a short inseam like 29" . At 6' tall my torso is longer than most . My Tenere 700 was just a little tall for me so I had it lowered . Then I got Motoz Tractionator ADV tires and I was back where I started . Did sit on a 2018 Africa Twin and it felt shorter and more comfortable than the Tenere . I like being able to stand on the pegs and scan ahead . Feel safer being taller with the ability to see danger sooner or trail obstacles faster .
@JayShermanFJC2 жыл бұрын
At 6'1" it's not usually an issue but the adaptive ride height on the PAS I can flat foot with bent knees at a stop. Nice ride Joe!!
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That ARH is genius. I wouldn't be surprised if you see it on other brands soon.
@JohnSmith-sj2dk7 ай бұрын
I have a 33 inch inseam (without shoes), but with shoes (one inch) I can just flat foot a T7 (i weigh 65 kg), but tbh given the top heavy nature of the T7 I wouldn't mind another inch for those "sticky" situations out alone in the bush , or even during low speed traffic weaving.
@jthompson61892 жыл бұрын
My first motorcycle I can only manage to flat foot one foot, and found it forced to develop good habits, using the right foot on the brake while stopped and left foot down.
@Snake750552 жыл бұрын
I'm 5 feet 4 inches I don't like most of the smaller bikes this was helpful
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad it helped out, man!
@TechItOut2 жыл бұрын
Great if you are living/riding on the flat. Maybe you should do a follow up in the hills with lots of off cambers.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
You’re 100% right. This video is for those that are afraid to get onto an ADV bike because of their height. Off road techniques are best left to Chris Birch and Jimmy Lewis and not the likes of me.
@TechItOut2 жыл бұрын
@@GreatEgret I was thinking more on road as where i live is very hilly and the off cambers at junctions particularly can be extremely difficult on these ADV's. Even more road focussed bikes seem to be getting higher and higher.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
If you’re in motion and you can reach the pegs, bike height doesn’t play into that. Especially ADV bikes with a low center of gravity. The managing your balance, keeping your right foot on the peg while dropping your left foot, and putting weight on the suspension tips I suggest in this video would still apply in any road riding environment.
@jeramiemaddox1974 Жыл бұрын
I would kill to have a 32 inch inseam
@bpcoxkr Жыл бұрын
Learned on and still ride a CB500x with a 32" seat height with a 29"ish inseam. Got used to using one foot and paying some attention if the road is at a tilt and I've had no issues. Can get both balls of my feet (barely) down but am perfectly stable on one leg. Still need to build skills before I think I'd be fully comfortable on something like an AT, but I think it should be doable with the right practice, at least for on road purposes.
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
I love this attitude towards bikes, building skills, and practice.
@epyon314 Жыл бұрын
6'2" 32" inseam. I got my ktm 1190 adventure r in a trade with an aftermarket seat that puts the seat height at 38". Once you learn how to do it then you will be able to ride tall bikes just fine.
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
Unless you’re Shaq, ain’t nobody gonna flat foot a bike with a 38” seat height. Kudos for riding that bike with that seat height!
@sunnyboner6762 жыл бұрын
I’m 5’9” and can flat-foot the bike on the lower seat setting. Not only flat-footing but also knees bent a little.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
It is a bit more confidence boosting in low setting. The peg height stays the same no matter what seat setting you’re in. I just don’t like how scrunched up I feel in the low setting.
@sunnyboner6762 жыл бұрын
@@GreatEgret same here - it’s quite uncomfortable to ride long distances with the legs scrunched up with the lower seat setting. The other things that bother me is the long fork dip when I use the front brakes and feeling the top heaviness of the bike.
@serious_in_seattle6917 Жыл бұрын
5’9” is not short. I’m 5’1”. Technique is the key to riding tall bikes.
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
Technique is exactly what I talk about and demonstrate in this very video.
@serious_in_seattle6917 Жыл бұрын
@@GreatEgret yep. Good video.
@RC44E2 жыл бұрын
Then you have us 5 ft 7 guys who think your a giant.
@Bruno-my9uf Жыл бұрын
The bast bike for a shorty is the bmw gs low frame . !!! Thank you bmw . yoy do have brains !!!!!
@corujariousa Жыл бұрын
With skills and experience, anyone can ride any motorcycle. There are several disadvantages/inconveniences though do deal with too tall and/or too heavy motorcycles. Has anyone stopped and got surprised by a lower ground/hole right where your foot was supposed to land or on a lateraly inclined road? If you have a 30 in inseam or lower...
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more! Motorcycling, especially on an adventure bike, takes practice to learn how to ride well no matter how short or tall you are.
@feanythmayosh55252 жыл бұрын
I'm 5.2ft. no idea what my inseem is. Know I've got short legs. These days I ride a Honda Africa Twin from 2019 that isn't lowered. I don't move backwards. I move to the side. That way I get half a foot on the ground when really needed. Next to the AT I also ride a Suzuki DRZ 400. That one is lowered by replacing the full suspension with custom made ones. Not through the links. But still need to use the same technique on it as I use on the AT
@ckfvideo2 жыл бұрын
I use these techniques on a DR650 with the stock seat height. The DR is admittedly not as tall as a stock AT but at 5'8" with a 30" inseam I always thought the Suzuki would be too tall until I learned that you don't need to flat foot. Moving forward to the narrow part of the seat and shifting ever so slightly to the side at a stop and I've got a foot planted firm on the ground. Another tip is to slightly drag the rear brake when starting off from a stop, it seems to add a little stability. I don't feel I would be confident on a 1250GS but the AT I think would be manageable with the seat in the low position and I hope to try one out soon. All that said the DR650 is a lightweight and I don't know if my tricks would work on a heavier bike.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Those are some good tips. I bet you could handle a 1250GS. I’m looking for something more manageable off-road.
@joejones34692 жыл бұрын
When your 5,7. They are too tall. At least for me.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Maybe. Depends on your riding goals. My inseam barely reaches 32". If I have on thick riding pants, like the Klim ones I'm wearing in this video, I bet my inseam drops to no higher than 30.5". I give a few tips near end of this video on how short riders can handle these amazing bikes. I also feel every rider should try an adventure bike at least once in their life. They're so fun!
@rosarioroberto58232 жыл бұрын
Greetings Excellent video 🇺🇸🍾🎉🇺🇸 Would you provide me with the tank pad and upper faring bar protector links. Thanks, keep producing more videos.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
You bet! Here is the link for the tank pad: shop.powersports.honda.com/p/side-tank-pad And here is for the upper crash guard: shop.powersports.honda.com/p/light-bar-3?pp=24
@BarbaryStudio Жыл бұрын
Tanks for the video nice editing, I’m 165cm will this bike fits me, africa twin 1100 adventure sports 2023.
@ehsansiam31232 ай бұрын
So at 5'5" all adventure bikes are no go for me.
@n057828 Жыл бұрын
Why not make it that you can adjust the gas 2 “ lower in the computer??
@donhenderson51002 жыл бұрын
And the newer bikes are too tall for me. I would have to mod them
@Skiamakhos Жыл бұрын
Consider also a rolling mount & dismount - Jocelin Snow shows this one on her R1250GS. She's tiny.
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
I love watching her ride!
@faisalbaluch6672 Жыл бұрын
Seems incredibly impractical when riding in town.
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
Difficult, yes. But not impractical. Just takes practice.
@martinwu6416 Жыл бұрын
very good, very positive
@Kenkalsi2 жыл бұрын
I am 6.35 and still its hard to sit or alight but after sitting its easy for me.
@ripmax3338 ай бұрын
While I agree on what you said on the video I also believe that a different mind set of adventure motorcycle design by the manufacturers can also improve or take a lot of struggle from us short riders, for example the 2024 KTM 790 adventure would be my first choice as an adventure bike right now, it has the fuel tanks very low on the side of the engine helping the put the C/G very low, the seat height adjustable to 32 inches which is pretty good, and I might be wrong but it may also be lighter than the AT, it has also very good ground clearance and equally capable if not better in offroad situations.
@GreatEgret8 ай бұрын
I had an opportunity to ride a KTM 790. That fuel tank design is brilliant. So balanced with that heavy fuel weight slung low. It is definitely lighter than the Africa Twin by about 100lbs. It's 100% a great choice for shorter ADV riders and certainly a better choice than the AT if your adventures are off road. the only thing the KTM 790 Adventure R doesn't have is the the reliability reputation the AT has.
@motoyak29012 жыл бұрын
Is not the height that I’m concerned with but its the AT high COG.. That’s were the R1250 GS is appealing for me.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Good point. The center of gravity is definitely higher than the GS. Especially with a full tank. Double especially on the Adventures Sports with a that huge 6.5 gallon tank.
@MonkeyMagic-7 ай бұрын
Thanks, really helpful. Just to allow comparison - is your 32" measurement down to the floor (outseam) or down to your ankle (inseam)? Thanks.
@GreatEgret7 ай бұрын
It’s outseam. Down to the floor with low profile shoes.
@MonkeyMagic-7 ай бұрын
@@GreatEgret Thanks 👍
@renano952 жыл бұрын
You had me till you said you're short at 5 9 lol I'm 5 5 and I don't reach the bottom of my v str 650 and it's not even that tall lol
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Anything below 6’ is short In the adventure bike world.
@renano952 жыл бұрын
@@GreatEgret I think in America in general 😄
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
@@renano95 ha! Too true😂.
@donhenderson51002 жыл бұрын
Hello Joe. My 06 KLR 650 is tall, but my friends XR650L is really tall! I am 6'1", 230 lbs. I put 1 inch lowering links on the shock. Slid forks up in triple tree 1 inch. Yeah, it compromised its capabilities, but I am 61 years old and no Malcom Smith. But...fun factor still 100%.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
In my entire life, I'll never have the skills Malcom Smith has in his 70s. Fun factor is the MOST important factor!
@adnanzavery Жыл бұрын
I test rode the bmw 850gs and its is a bit challenging in bumper to bumper traffic and taking U-turns in traffic. I am 5.6ft and 860 seat height in traffic is definitely not for me. Still haven’t figured out what bike to buy and what the seat height should be for me so it doesn’t feel scary in traffic and congestion ? 😢
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
I know it’s a bigger bike, but the adjustable ride height on the Pan America seems like a good fit for you.
@Hubie468 Жыл бұрын
are the lower aftermarket springs really gonna take that much away from suspension?? can anyone tell me more about exactly how detrimental that would be?
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
Like a lot of things in life and motorbikes, the answer isn’t so straightforward. Anytime you reduce the travel and/or the spring rate, the more likely the suspension will bottom out. If you ride rough terrain, such as a gravel road with a lot of washouts, technical off-road, or even a city street with a lot of potholes, a bike with less travel and low spring rate will bottom out in those riding environments more than a bike with more travel and a higher spring rate. Also, when you lower a bike, you lower the ground clearance. A bike with lower ground clearance won’t be as effective off-road than a bike with higher ground clearance. This is why the Africa Twin is WAY better off-road than the new TransAlp. What it comes down to is a rider’s tolerance. If you don’t mind the jarring impact of suspension bottoming out, then it not that bad or if you don’t mind reduced ground clearance, it’s aIso not that bad. Personally, I would rather enjoy the benefits long travel suspension and higher ground clearance and learn the short-person skills needed to ride a taller bike.
@Hubie468 Жыл бұрын
@@GreatEgret this is valuable input. Thank you. I’ll mostly be taking a mountain dirt road to and from a cabin. Not too wild but less well finished than most dirt roads. If that transalpine comes out maybe I’ll look at that since I’m not doing too much trail riding. (Yet lol)
@davidmallia6282 жыл бұрын
Love the looks of the Africa Twin, and it is a Honda for reliability, fit and finish. And even though they have lowered the seat height, it is still too top heavy for a lot of people. The BMW R1200/1250 GS is just so well balanced, no other bike comes close. For me the big bore GS is still king.
@Devastator1232 жыл бұрын
Have you ridden the new Pan Am?
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
I just bought one a month ago. Nearly 1000 miles on it already.
@davidmallia6282 жыл бұрын
@@Devastator123 No. To be honest, the pan am does not appeal to me, basically because it is on the heavier side of which I would like adventure bikes to venture. The ideal adventure bike for me would be 600 cc along the lines of the new multistrada V2S. Is there something out there that comes clos??
@Devastator1232 жыл бұрын
@@davidmallia628 I hear ya! A lot of people like the smaller bikes for off-road. 👍
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
I really hope Honda comes out with a sub 500lb 750cc Adventure bike. I don’t even care if they don’t call it the Trans Alp. I just want them to build it and sell it.
That’s really cool! I bet you love every minute on each of those bikes. I just bought a CRF300L yesterday. It’s a great bike.
@andrewpaton8819 Жыл бұрын
Like how you think, you’re vertically challenged with a 32” inseam. That’s more like the norm. Try having a 28” inseam and then talk about putting a foot down on an off camber road or trail.
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of viewers on here telling me what I am or am not. What I’m experiencing vs. what I know I’m experiencing. Leave that stuff alone and take this video for what it’s intended and useful for: a helpful tool and encouragement for those that are interested in tall adventure bikes, but are a bit intimidated by their height. I’m other words: this video is not about me.
@andrewpaton8819 Жыл бұрын
@@GreatEgret it was meant as a joke mate, as you have a much longer inseam than many of us shorter riders. But you seem to have taken it as an attack on yourself and your video. Perhaps you’ve had a humour bypass or something. Either way no need to get in a strop. The video was helpful unlike your response.
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
Brother, I’m not upset. I wish you could hear the tone that was intended I’m my reply. It wasn’t an attack on you. I believe it was a helpful comment because I think it’s important to take the focus off of me and back on the video.
@lame68932 жыл бұрын
Im 5'7" with 30" inseam without shoes...will it be ok for any adv bike?
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
I believe anyone, with enough practice, can ride any bike they want. The key is learning how your bike handles with you on it. Shifting your weight to get the best balance and figuring out the best way to put your right foot down are key.
@briangaskill8348 Жыл бұрын
I'm 6'4" with a 38" inseam. I definitely think that adventure bikes are just about the right height. In fact, I'd like a tall seat option on my Africa Twin. My knees are quite bent while seated, not as much as on a sport bike, but close. With my stock seat in the higher position, my feet are flat on the ground and my knees have a significant bend to them. Too much in this world is set up for short, or average people. Adventure bikes are really the only thing that caters to us taller folks without significant modification. :>)
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
You’re not wrong about this. It is 100% an average height person’s world. I see a bicycle helmet in your photo. Gravel? MTB? Road? I feel it’s definitely an average height rider’s world in the cycling community. The only time it would have been beneficial for me to be your height was during the severe supply chain shortage and the the only frames available were 60mm and above. 😀
@petervossos48162 жыл бұрын
I’m 5 10 and I was about to buy a 1290 adv r. It wasn’t just the fact that I couldn’t flat foot the bike it was also this awesome, huge, fat tank and very heavy bike! I thought… how am I going to cross country this behemoth? What if it falls? What if I’m trying to climb a steep hill? Then I slip on rocks and I can’t flat foot it and it starts sliding backwards! NO! This bike is for 6.7, 160 kilo men or women! Not for me! I’m probably going to buy the Africa twin! It’s lighter it’s not so high and it looks like you can throw it around a little bit! Not as easy to throw around as a t700 but it’s going to be better on the hwy!
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
The Africa Twin is only 3 kg lighter than the 1290 Super Adventure R.
@petervossos48162 жыл бұрын
@@GreatEgret wot! Looks like a moped for me!
@fjeewani Жыл бұрын
you have africa twin also and a pan america as well ?
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
I sadly no longer have the Africa Twin.
@DerpEye2 жыл бұрын
Goddamn the imperial units. WTF is 3/4 of an inch? How am i supposed to picture that? :D Both the GS adventure and AT are about 82 cm tall.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree we’re a little backwards. The metric system is so much better in so many ways. 3/4 inch is about 19 mm.
@thesmithsmaf Жыл бұрын
Nice vid
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
Thanks, bro
@logangallagher70502 жыл бұрын
Are you mad? Africa twin and KTM 1290R are not rivals, the 1290 is in another class, the Africa twin rivals are mid weight adventure bikes, F860gs, Norden 901, tiger 900, KTM 890 and it doesn't do too well against them
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Not mad. I never said they were rivals. What I did say I that this is an adventure bike shootout for me to determine the best bike for my needs and riding style. What do you mean the AT “doesn’t do well against” the KTM 1290? Does do well at what?! That answer depends on what you’re looking for out a bike. This is why this video and the series it is part of is about my needs and riding style. If I’m considering all theses bikes, I’m going to compare them.
@MrTeslaX Жыл бұрын
Only in America a 5'9'' guy will be considered short. It's a shame that most of the bike companies which are from Japan cater to 6 foot+ riders!
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
I don’t consider myself short because I’m an American. Iim actually not that short, but I am a short adventure bike rider. It’s not relative to where I live. It’s relative to other riders and those who choose to ride ADV bikes. “Shortness” should not prevent you from riding a tall bike and the companies are not only catering to those over 6 feet. I talk about s as lol this in the video.
@MrTeslaX Жыл бұрын
@@GreatEgret I did watch the video, thanks a lot for your response. I am definitely referring here shortness in American cultural context. Actually I am 5'7'', from India and moved to the US 10 yrs ago at 26.I never has any stigma around height until I moves to the US where guys under 5'11'' are considered on the shorter side; and, everyone wants to be 6'2''. Somehow there is a height privilege. Unfortunately this metal conditioning has creeped into product design and manufacturing, where, if you are a male less than 5'86', you will have hard time finding products that fit you.
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
@@MrTeslaX You’re right. We do have this weird complex about height here in the US and it does impact product development, but tall adventure bikes are not tall because it’s designed for tall riders. I mentioned in the video, it’s for comfort and off-road performance, not because it’s designed for tall riders. There’s a reason riders want an Africa Twin over a CB500X. It’s off-road capability and long distance comfort, not because it’s a taller bike.
@allgoo1990 Жыл бұрын
28" here.
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
No problem! You can ride any bike you want! 👍✌️
@Bruno-my9uf Жыл бұрын
Yes man that is my questuon why adventire bikes are so dam tall !!!! Are going over a 100 foot tree. Wy !!!!!!
@doc8178 Жыл бұрын
32" in seam.........3" longer than me and I ride ans ATAS no problem
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@VivamusLibero Жыл бұрын
Nothing impossible.
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
Too true!
@barkindustry81502 жыл бұрын
I would absolutely not telling a fine looking dame that is a solid 3" to F off HAHAHAHA That would just be ruuuuuuddeee!
@cubleycat2 жыл бұрын
LOL OMG 10lbs wieght gain, yep me exactly lol.
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Story of my life during Covid. Still trying to work it off 😂
@paulyflyer8154 Жыл бұрын
They're all fine to ride until you have to stop on a pothole or camber, then over you go! Just not worth the stress and anxiety they bring.
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that makes sense. You need to feel safe what you’re riding. What are you riding now?
@Bruno-my9uf Жыл бұрын
No point . nobody ever goes over a 12" log . !
@onlysoul731 Жыл бұрын
come on dont aay 5'9 is a short height what about us 5'4 height?😭
@kennyb7883 Жыл бұрын
To bad they've already discontinued it
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
What was discontinued?
@ambriyadi81122 жыл бұрын
asik kita nonton motor mahal
@RedYoun2 жыл бұрын
5.9 is short bro the world average height is 5.6 so compared to you most of us are dwarfq
@andrewkitchenuk2 жыл бұрын
Now try being 6'6" and riding a sports bike. 😂
@MartinInAmsterdam Жыл бұрын
WTF is inches????
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
Ha! An arcane unit of measurement for those of us too dumb to use the metric system. 😀
@slumgullianpass Жыл бұрын
When is the world gonna figure out that one’s height is near irrelevant. It’s your inseam length that determines the reach on a motorcycle. Duh!
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
Yup. That’s why I measured my inseam in this video.
@malealoy5622 Жыл бұрын
in what world is 5'9 a shortie? holland? lol
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
In the world of tall bikes. It’s relative to those that choose to ride tall bikes, not to everyone in the world. I’m short compared to most tall bike ADV riders.
@Bruno-my9uf Жыл бұрын
And i can ride the gs 1200 with a low seat no problem did you see the yamaha tenere 700 wow . what is with that . why can they sell the same bikes with low suspention is not that hard . !!!!! No brains . they can sell so many more biker to regular people . !!!
@fourforaboy5752 жыл бұрын
Lol every guy commenting is like 5ft7... Then there's me at 5ft4 and just bought a Yam Tracer
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Solid choice for a do it all bike. Low seat height and easy on the wallet too!
@darthtool81312 жыл бұрын
Im 5.9 with 32 inch inseam and i have a yam tenere 700 with is notoriously tall and top heavy, i use a low seat when im off solo with no luggage and put on the standard when i have a pillion and luggage.. i also dump the Sag on the rear shock a fair bit so it lowers under my 160lb frame xD.. its not easy but its still fun to ride. i Can put the both feet down on the balls with decent size boots, with low Sag and a bit of weight on the back almost flat foot one side.. fun of being a shortass.
@jhokket34703 ай бұрын
Video for short riders. Dude in the video “I am 5’9”. You are not short bro 🙄
@GreatEgret3 ай бұрын
In the adventure bike world, if you are below 6’ or your inseam is less than 34”, you’re short. Both are the case here. The video is not for short riders. It’s for those afraid to ride or challenged by taller bikes. Dude, stop being lazy and take time to actually watch the video.
@laryangel4082 Жыл бұрын
Tt
@Bruno-my9uf Жыл бұрын
Yes they are way too tall . no reason for that . !!!!! Is fullysh
@davidfromearth11022 ай бұрын
Useless video for 80% of the viewers including me as u don't use the metric system
@GreatEgret2 ай бұрын
Since you asked so nicely…😂 90% of my viewers use the imperial system. I have stats to back that up. The point of the video is it doesn’t matter how tall a bike is, don’t be intimidated by it. Measurements are useless here no matter system you use.
@davidfromearth11022 ай бұрын
@@GreatEgret Of course the main and most important thing in your video is the tips you use to ride a tall bike. But that doesn’t mean the numbers, heights and measurements you give aren’t important. In fact it’s very important imo especially for short people who could make comparisons if the system used is universal. KZbin algorithm made me click your video but as soon as I heard that old imperial system I stopped, believe me I can’t be the only one in that case. Too bad I’m sorry numbers are important (I mean numbers I can understand lol) I can’t subscribe to your channel but I gently recommend to open your channel to the metric system, you’ll get so many new subscribers
@GreatEgret2 ай бұрын
@davidfromearth1102 as I said, I make a big part of the video that the numbers don’t matter and you shouldn’t be intimidated to ride a tall bike. I know the message of this video because, well, I made it. You spent more time telling me how my video is useless. You could have spent that time actually listening to the message of the video. I don’t care about subscribers. I care about community. I know my community, and how to create content for them better than you.
@davidfromearth11022 ай бұрын
@@GreatEgret ok if you don’t care about subscribers sorry for my dumb comments then. Have a great ride
@tonylawton65132 жыл бұрын
It's not to tall your to short.......
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Uh, yeah. The Title says I’m short.
@tonylawton65132 жыл бұрын
@@GreatEgret tall bikes are only tall when your getting on and off and stopping .🤣
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
Uh, yeah. Watch the video. I talk about that.
@paoloc33182 жыл бұрын
You short guys better ride some scooters and leave adventure bikes for tall men .There is nothing more pathetic than a short guy on a huge adventure bike. It looks just funny .
@GreatEgret2 жыл бұрын
You mean like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIrTYq2OrshjnKM Yeah, short riders are way more badass. They don't need to criticize other riders to make themselves feel better when they don't have the skills, like you. They show their skills on the bike.
@greenrolaids Жыл бұрын
Ill make the girl of my dreams love me.. all she will take is 20% down and $499 month for 60 months
@GreatEgret Жыл бұрын
That’s actually pretty funny. Buuuut… you can’t buy the skills to ride a bike. The analogy is more about working together with the bike like you work together in a relationship with the girl of your dream.