Correction: At 16:42 Bell meant .85 seconds not 8.5 seconds (that'd be a looooong wait to launch Instagram!) Nab yourself a reliable phone plan without breaking the bank! Check out Tello at lmg.gg/tellosc
@TheJunnutin Жыл бұрын
Hahah. I don't use insta so I was thinking "Wait, is that how milliseconds work? Holy crap, 2,5s on a flagship phone??"
@oienu Жыл бұрын
I can wait 3s OuOb is fine.
@BeepBeep2_ Жыл бұрын
How do these things slip through editing?
@AchiragChiragg Жыл бұрын
Any explanation for the graph at 15:20 ? That's a terribly misleading graph.
@concreetbloc Жыл бұрын
@@AchiragChiraggI agree, along with the unlabelled graphs at 14:47 (what settings?) I am rather disappointed to say the least when it comes to the dataset that ltt labs has collected. As for testing methodology I also disagree, the video and stress test results should have standardized variables like brightness of display, WiFi and Bluetooth being on and temperature of room. Specification within the graph I would expect to look something like this (400nits, WiFi, Bluetooth, 1080p KZbin H264 playback). I am still excited nonetheless for the expansion of ltt labs, I hope it grows to become the benchmark for what reviews should be like.
@RenSkywalker2187 Жыл бұрын
A Nokia phone that needs repairs? Oh how far we've fallen
@Veemospammer Жыл бұрын
Well you see in the one or 2 reports of the Nokia breaking they decided to make it easily reparable so that if reality breaks and your phone gets damaged you can fix it
@zyeborm Жыл бұрын
You don't need to but you can 😂
@SAHILKAR-mw7nu Жыл бұрын
The only phone company where customers expect that they will need no repairs.
@guardian1102 Жыл бұрын
I remember my first Nokia bricks, these things were built like Game Boys; tough and can survive a nuclear blast!
@karolwesoek5350 Жыл бұрын
First Nokia phones required repairs too. All you needed was just donor phone and you could replace parts yourself without any soldering required.
@q.edwards4891 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why companies that are all "YOU CAN REPAIR IT" won't make a good phone that's repairable. It isn't about less garbage to throw away, and more about having a "segment of the market that can be exploited".
@JanJanJanJanJanJanJanJanJan2 Жыл бұрын
And they do that by producing manufactured e-waste
@Piipperi800 Жыл бұрын
Louis Rossman actually had a theory about this on their video of the Nokia G22, that makes sense. It's to tell the right to repair activists that "look, we made a phone, but nobody bought it!", to show that people don't want a repairable phone. When in reality these are the strings they are pulling to get to that conclusion.
@lewfec7336 Жыл бұрын
Nokia lumia 1020 with the 41MP camera was super easy to change the screen. It had a plastic locking rail that you released with a torx screw under the top sim card tray. Once that was unscrewed the screen uncliped and just had to be unplugged and replaced, was so nice
@fritsfmn Жыл бұрын
The construction of phones.. Has change over time.. now screen and frame is the same part, so it is hard to do
@DOSStorm Жыл бұрын
Windows Phone was the GOAT. They were the first phones I remember having incredible cameras.
@3Rton Жыл бұрын
Good old Lumia... people used to call me crazy for buying one.
@vgamesx1 Жыл бұрын
LG had their own problems, namely the software and bootlooping, but their old phones like the G4 was also super easy, just take out a few screws and pop the screen out, I swapped it in like 10 minutes with limited experience.
@_xwtk Жыл бұрын
@@DOSStormcompletely agreed, I still have an 820 in my collection, had a 920 as a daily driver from 2014 up to 2017 then from 2019 to 2020
@playgroundsinc Жыл бұрын
Now we need a phone worth repairing
@Jezee213 Жыл бұрын
The problem with these phones is the specs are always low to mid range, but I've yet to see a flagship spec with actually good cameras and processor. Imagine if like, the Samsung S23 Ultra was this repairable. I realize some things have to be different like plastic back and probably thicker but just saying.
@romank90 Жыл бұрын
Why would you not have plastic back at all? Glass back means you will immediately put a plastic case on it anyway 😑
@ayumiwaru Жыл бұрын
exactly, a cheapo phone that is low-mid range is nota phone id care to repair in the first place.
@ViXoZuDo Жыл бұрын
you can have a fully removable back cover with screws and premium materials.
@zyeborm Жыл бұрын
Imagine if the phone was designed to have a case from the outset. A replaceable shell with mounts to the chassis because most people most of the time put a case on their phone. It'd wind up being slimmer as you don't have a decorative shell over the phone and then a case over that. It'd also be more robust as the case could mount to the phone not just elastic onto it. People could then make extended batteries and what not as well that didn't suck.
@ylandry0783 Жыл бұрын
Probably the excuse of manufacturers concerning right to repair on phones. "See? no one buys them, so they don't want repairable phones."
@TallTrees420 Жыл бұрын
I love this dude, has a great vibe.
@tbotnoblett Жыл бұрын
He's so chill. It's like he functions the speed of relaxation
@ReadGameCraftCook Жыл бұрын
Me too, hope he stays himself!
@oliverer3 Жыл бұрын
@@tbotnoblettYeah, even when he's speaking faster it feels like he isn't in a hurry.
@sz-me Жыл бұрын
You misspelled "voice"
@PisKelderPaul Жыл бұрын
Disagree
@yurithebrave Жыл бұрын
When you claim you care about sustainability and recycling but then you smash a phone screen with a hammer for shits and giggles
@Kumimono Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if comparing this to flagships is entirely, fair?
@MD.20.20 Жыл бұрын
Its closer to a Galaxy A13
@insolidusyt Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing they probably don't have the numbers for too many mid-low ends. Downsides of being a big tech channel. But also, most people watching this probably wouldn't be able to comprehend what that low end performance would feel like.
@HolosKaustos Жыл бұрын
Companies can and have used products like this to undermine Right to Repair. They under power the product to the point that few people who pay attention will buy them, and those that don't pay attention will have a terrible experience and not want another one. Then, once it fails, companies will point to it and claim that they offered a repairable phone but there was no demand for it. By comparing it to flagship phones and pointing out that not only was the hardware lacking, but there was no reason it couldn't have been better they can undermine the claims of the companies.
@servissop151 Жыл бұрын
@@MD.20.20even more low end; like samsung a03
@PaveMentman Жыл бұрын
--- @@HolosKaustos Well, the thing is, this was the "G"-series-devices, which sits in between Nokia-branded "C" and "X"-devices. If this was "X"-series device, then the comparison "Nokia cheaping out"-argument against flagships would probably a bit more fairer comparison. But here we have more indented mid-range-device with the early-adopter-tax for the engineering "sample", hence more than likely the price being "too much" by the words of the LTT-staff; odd they didn't point out the smaller-volume / skew-price-hike-thing like they'd usually do on "WAN-show" and such. Most likely the prices will be eventually more "reasonable". But in case Nokia-brand / "HMD Global" is certainly will take a bit more time now they're also setting up the manufacturing in European-countries also ( which countries though has yet to be revealed ). ---
@ashelliot8895 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the fact that it has a headphone jack makes me like it much more than some other, even better phones.
@CarlBraun3 Жыл бұрын
sony is a good choice in terms of sd card + 3.5mm jack. But their auto-camera is not what it should be out-of-box
@Madwonk Жыл бұрын
I'd be very suspect at that price though. I tried a similarly priced Motorola and had to return it because there was *so much* horrendous noise on the headphone jack it was literally unusable. Sadly, only Sony in my experience has a *decent* DAC in their current devices.
@korndud Жыл бұрын
there are TONS of better phone with headphone jacks.
@Madwonk Жыл бұрын
@@korndud Which ones?
@servissop151 Жыл бұрын
@@MadwonkThe whole Xiaomi lineup has some damn good phones, many of them with headphone jacks, and some of the Samsung A and M series have headphone jacks. Then there's the route of buying an older Samsung flagship and getting the battery replaced
@svengamings8658 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see framework make a smartphone.
@Jezee213 Жыл бұрын
Heck ya!
@insolidusyt Жыл бұрын
Fairfone already exists though.
@Hadisabetghadam Жыл бұрын
Framework Like Fairphone
@FurbleFawks Жыл бұрын
Framework and fairphone working together would be /amazing/
@Ebalosus Жыл бұрын
Preferably with removable storage and RISC-V (the superior ISA)
@stefcry Жыл бұрын
Hey I feel like the graph at 15:21 was a little misleading, at a quick glance it looks like the nokia is way worse because it doesnt start at 0. Loved the video hope this doesnt come off as rude
@PaulGrayUK Жыл бұрын
I've owned a G21 for over a year, insides of G22 spec-wise same. great phone for the money, perfect, bit slow on Android updates, but guaranteed, wished support was longer and note the same for G22, so from memory it will be 2 Android updates and 3 years of security updates. So do check that for G22 as having something you can repair beyond 3 years and can't get updates, bit of a handicap and the right to compile the OS, is there, just a minefield. Aftermarket OS options are worth checking, not explored that but will be a big factor once official support drops.
@zyeborm Жыл бұрын
I was thinking it'd be nice if the phone vendors had a subscription service for updates after X years. Like yeah they need to get paid to do the work to keep the software up to date. But like $1 a month or something after 2 years ending when the total number of subscribers for that phone are under 10k or incompatibility forces things to stop. That'd be a decent way for the vendor to get paid for their work and users to keep devices secure longer for minimal cost I think. I'd probably do it. $12 for a year of updates on a repairable phone? Seems fair.
@privacyvalued4134 Жыл бұрын
As someone who uses Tello, I highly recommend them...with one huge caveat. I live in a large metropolitan area. There are some parts of town where Tello simply stops functioning. I rarely wind up in those areas of town so Tello works perfectly fine for me. Tello is a T-Mobile (formerly Sprint) MVNO. So if T-Mobile service kind of sucks in your area, then Tello will similarly suck. However, if you get good T-Mobile coverage, then Tello is going to be similarly decent/good. Tello's prices are generally the cheapest of all of the MVNOs with only Mint mobile barely edging out Tello on some data plans. By carefully managing app data usage and sticking heavily to WiFi, it is possible to never crack 200MB of data per month and yet use the phone extensively.
@Deses Жыл бұрын
How much do you pay monthly for 200 mb?
@HybridDivide Жыл бұрын
Companies: Sells a high-price-for-the-low-specs, repairable phone. Consumers: Buy something at around the same price, with higher specs. Companies: REPAIRABLE PHONES DON'T SELL! Give me at least decent specs and reparability, and I won't mind paying more.
@purple-anthem Жыл бұрын
The chart at 15:20 is very misleading. I understand it doesn't start at zero for scaling reasons, but it makes a bar chart pretty much pointless when we can't compare the size of the bars. It looks as though the Nokia gets awful (half as much!) battery life when it's just 2 hours less.
@SWOhioSpeedtesting Жыл бұрын
0:34 I have a feeling Bell tried working a phone repair store once but got fired for something like this
@privacyvalued4134 Жыл бұрын
The only "self-repairable" components I really care about are the battery and the screen. And if I had to pick just one of those, I'd choose the battery. At $220, there are far better phones that are just as "repairable" as this phone that also have more powerful/capable hardware.
@Funktastico Жыл бұрын
true, especially with nokia c02 (another crappy spec hardware) where you can pop out the back cover and the battery just pop out like phones from 2000s era without adhesive or connector .... i guess it's for ip rating ... but we had samsung galaxy s5 also with battery compartment that's rated ip67 with headphone jack and microsd expansion, so no excuses for modern phones these days to exclude all that.
@ejvollkrassalter Жыл бұрын
can you make a list? i've been struggling to find anything
@Sandmonmsn Жыл бұрын
The Fairphone 4 looked easier to repair.
@GodzThirdLeg Жыл бұрын
Also it has way better specs.
@thamires.magalhaes Жыл бұрын
Love to see that, my previous phone was a Nokia and it was great, super indestructable. I only just switched to a new one because I'm a photo enthusiast and the camera was a bit lacking for me. After 6 years it's still completely functional and I can't even imagine how long more it would be good for being able to easily fix it. My phone before the Nokia was brand new when I had to stop using it because the screen broke and it was so hard to fix that they messed it up the first time, and it kept getting worse each time I took it to repair. Also, that headphone jack, Nokia keep up :)
@stephaneduhamel7706 Жыл бұрын
15:20 Do not ever make that kind of graph with offset origin, it's increadibly misleading and makes the difference look a lot bigger than it actually is.
@anasvar3319 Жыл бұрын
Great presenter, overall good video with the exception of that terrible longevity graph at 15:15. Love repairable phones, but this one does not make much sense to me. Why make it repairable if you're going to discourage long use by making it also too low spec with shortish support period!??
@ActuallyJakob Жыл бұрын
15:16 It's bad practice to break scales, you're misrepresenting a roughly 10% difference as a 100% difference.
@SW-ks3ws Жыл бұрын
What an awesome presenter/reviewer! Great voice and manner of presentation.
@StiekemeHenk Жыл бұрын
There was no need to break the screen, you could've just replaced it without wasting the screen. What a huge oversight.
@danielrichardson3613 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Bell here must be related to the guy who does the super dramatic movie voiceovers. What a tone!
@The_Opinion_of_Matt Жыл бұрын
Feels like some business manager decided that repairability is a niche market and the design, component spec, and pricing decisions were made so that management could later structure an argument around "no one wants a repairable phone". Let's get ahead of that. People want repairable phones. People don't want crap phones that are repairable.
@Death_Saved Жыл бұрын
battery life graph starting at 16.5 instead of 0 is pretty bad.
@claudiobizama5603 Жыл бұрын
Popping open the back of this nokia reminds me of opening an iPod classic
@HeisenbergFam Жыл бұрын
Nokia is truly perfect for self defense with how sturdy it is
@mod4rchive Жыл бұрын
this isnt the nokia nokia, this is chinese factory buying the brand. nowhere near lumias
@OlafsLeftArm Жыл бұрын
@@mod4rchive HMD Global who designs and oversees the production is still based in Finland (as is the og Nokia that now makes mainly networking stuff) and there are people in HMD who worked for the og Nokia back in the days. The phones are manufactured by Foxconn (yes, probably in China).
@insolidusyt Жыл бұрын
@@OlafsLeftArm from a quick Google, it seems that Nokia manufactures phones in several places. The biggest center is of course in China. But there are others in India, Latin America, and this year in Europe. It doesn't seem like they work exclusively with Foxconn either as the Indian center is run by Dixon Technologies. Also, at least in India and EU, the primary appeal of Nokias is still their durability.
@adskafjrufhauäšhlklöjlllhhhui Жыл бұрын
@@insolidusytit is not, most of their phones after lumias have been china quality cheap shit, main market is india and asia, selling cheap shitty phones to poor peopole.
@touma-san91 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if G42 would work quicker than G22, they both are repairable.. Although I can't find any spare parts for G42 on Ifixit's website atm.. Not sure if the parts are somewhat interchangeable with each other
@GameCyborgCh Жыл бұрын
the g42 does 5g, comes with android 13 instead of 12, better SoC, basically the same screen, 6 instead of 4gigs of ram, has 802.11ax, bluetooth 5.1 instead of 5.0 for only a 70€ increase in price (every other spec i didn't mentioned is basically the same) screens are a slightly different size so part compatibility is probably not a thing (which seems like a big oversight) edit the G60 costs the same as the g42 and has a higher resolution screen, gorilla glass 5 instead of 3, 120hz refreshrate instead of 90, slighly new SoC but it doesn't seem like is has microSD expansion and isn't repairable like the others
@bosstowndynamics5488 Жыл бұрын
There's no real point in a repairable phone if its lifespan is kneecaped by short software support
@FA7ALtheGOD Жыл бұрын
Nice to see Nokia follow the likes of Fairphone, allowing repairability for their devices.
@zackzeed Жыл бұрын
The repairability is really great, too bad it'll be outdated when you buy it with those specs. I hope it gets a couple of years of software updates! I'm to used to flagship phones so these specs would be very underwelming for me personally.
@DreitTheDarkDragon Жыл бұрын
I wish they offered DIY phone. You could choose out of let's say two mainboards (with more coming in future), two or three fitting displays and so on. Want bigger battery? Well here is thicker case with one! Just order parts, complete it together and you are good to go.
@Mainancepatsaji Жыл бұрын
@@DreitTheDarkDragonthey've tried this but then failed miserably
@AkunPulivari Жыл бұрын
Nokia has promised at least 3 years of updates for all their phones, so it does have that going for it! Too bad I wouldn't want to use it after 3 years, not even 1...
@tangyboi386 Жыл бұрын
@@DreitTheDarkDragonframework phone when?
@DreitTheDarkDragon Жыл бұрын
@@tangyboi386 Maybe next time
@telotawa Жыл бұрын
15:22 hey, misleading scale!!! don't do that shit
@MrJuls1982 Жыл бұрын
I think there is a little mistake in the numbers! Either the number (for cold launching apps, timestamp 16:45) is wrong or it does not take 8,5 seconds to launch the app, because 844ms are not 8,44 seconds. 8440ms would be roughly 8,5 seconds right?
@sanchitgangwar Жыл бұрын
Yes, I was just about to comment that. The numbers seem to be correct, but the host isn’t reading them right.
@StuckDuck Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they didn't put 3 cameras on it and actually used that money to make the specs more decent, sad we really don't have our priorities straight in 2023
@MatrixSJD Жыл бұрын
All this is great for the 7 people that will buy this phone. That's the issue with so many of these ideas, they end up going no where because no one buys them.
@AchiragChiragg Жыл бұрын
That is their plan.
@Keyan9 Жыл бұрын
i could see a use-case in deployment to a workforce, where a basic app with small system requirements needs to be used. The IT dept could repair the devices as needed or as a refresher when the device trades owners, for minimal cost.
@Voltaic_Fire Жыл бұрын
Why do repair friendly (or at least friendlier) phones always use anemic hardware? We want a flagship phone that is repair friendly!
@smmmokin Жыл бұрын
Nokia being a well known name stepping into this territory is such a brilliant move. I thought Nokia no longer existed. This is beyond a brilliant decision. Another year or two my 3 year old Samsung needs to be replaced. I will legit remember this product. Now I'm watching the video.
@Validole Жыл бұрын
This is a different company that bought the rights to the Nokia branding. The last actual Nokia phones were the Lumias, and even those they could only afford to engineer due to Microsoft buying Nokia phone division and using it as a showcase platform for Windows Phone (similar to the Google Nexus). Still Finnish, and some of the same leadership, but not actually the Nokia Corporation.
@oplkfdhgk Жыл бұрын
i am hoping that they also make smaller version of this cus that's waaaaay too big for me but other than that i really like it.
@20NBA01 Жыл бұрын
why do you like this??? That's literally e-waste out of the box
@inuush Жыл бұрын
@@20NBA01 It's an affordable option for people that don't have a lot of money, like in a third world country, they don't have the money to buy a fucking iPhone when it costs 10x the minimum wage.
@PixelatedH2O Жыл бұрын
You like what you like, but for me a 6.5 inch screen is barely large enough to be usable. However, with only a 720p display it should have a smaller screen.
@HybridDivide Жыл бұрын
Reparability is good, but doesn't Nokia still lock down their bootloaders? That's a dealbreaker for me. (Please tell me if I'm wrong about the bootloaders!)
@grugiv Жыл бұрын
afaict yes
@rvmiv_ Жыл бұрын
Completly agree, not getting a phone with a locked boot loader ever again
@Madwonk Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if you displayed the chips on battery life graphs (maybe below in parenthesis) because the generation/manufacturer makes a big difference in this!
@edplat2367 Жыл бұрын
720p is an instant no from me. Sad thing is that a repairable phone is actually a big selling point.
@PixelatedH2O Жыл бұрын
720p on a 6.5 inch screen is terrible. Who wants to look at blurry pixels.
@DaniilVodopian Жыл бұрын
Would seriously consider this phone if the screen was better
@sumesh-kumar Жыл бұрын
But the processor is trash
@linuxmarmalade Жыл бұрын
and RAM and proccessor and GPU
@gtifury310 Жыл бұрын
Buy once cry once. You don't need a flagship, but buying something that's not powerful enough for daily use out of the box is a losing situation.
@41chemist19 Жыл бұрын
I use my phone as a multi tasker / power user, a content consumption device, and a graphically intense gaming device... I really really want a repairable phone, but so far every single one has unusably bad specs for what I do on a phone. Where's my flagship repairable phone? Fairphone, Nokia, and other companies make repairable phones with trash tier specs for flagship prices. It's almost like they're intentionally making phones people wouldn't wanna buy and then say "oh gee, I guess nobody values repairability"
@Hdtjdjbszh Жыл бұрын
this, with an upgrade path. That's what I want.
@chinmaycbttiwari9818 Жыл бұрын
I love nokia, just only if they had better camera module, i would love to rock one. I had Nokia 6.1+ what a great phone.
@touma-san91 Жыл бұрын
That's the good thing with repairability though.. With luck there might be one in future if they just bother properly supporting it
@NuttyV2 Жыл бұрын
Design of nokia phones just got worse and worse. I miss 6.1 era
@U.S.A. Жыл бұрын
Making a cheap crappy phone repairable is dumb, if such a cheap phone would broke I would buy another one and not waste money repairing it, they should have made a flagship phone repairable.
@oplkfdhgk Жыл бұрын
yeah i also think kinda the same but i think this can be helpful for poor people so i think this is overall good.
@horizontal120 Жыл бұрын
START WHIT THE PRICE !! that is the most important part !!!
@shadowwsk3507 Жыл бұрын
I wish they also make midrange phones that are also repair friendly like this
@TheJQ54 Жыл бұрын
My man Bell gotta nice soothing & thumpy voice on him
@Slay1337pl Жыл бұрын
Yeah, let's revisit this phone in 2-5 years. When they'll actually need the repairs.
@germas369 Жыл бұрын
i stand by nokia, i had a Nokia 8 which still works, now using X30. Keep in mind that the G22 is very much an entry-level phone, there is a slightly better G42 which is also as repairable. Ive had a Lumia in the past which was once of my favourite and also super easy to open up and repair. Nokia seems like they are taking the initiative to change the way phone industry is and I like that, hopefully other brands will follow. As more iterations release, repairability will get better and so will price/performance.
@louism771 Жыл бұрын
The partnership with iFixit looks great and I'm so glad you dont have to (intentionally) break glued down screens just to replace your battery or USB port.
@jeffsims7386 Жыл бұрын
Ironically a massive portion of people who watch LTT channels almost certainly have at least one tube of thermal paste lying around at home.
@GameCyborgCh Жыл бұрын
seems like they changed the pricing because when I checked Nokia's website it's listed for 180€
@metacob Жыл бұрын
Usually when phone manufacturers add a feature to distinguish their glass rectangles from other glass rectangles, it's just some BS nobody needs. I LOVE seeing repairability as a selling point!
@HASHlRAMA Жыл бұрын
I like the idea but being realistic here, it is not much easier to repair than other phones. Other than the official guide and tab to open it up. It's very similar to an average phone inside.
@Alphachicken22 Жыл бұрын
Give me board schematics or give me death.
@falcie7743 Жыл бұрын
I could see this being a company issued phone. Performance is a non-issue, repairability would be enticing because you know employees drop phones, and it's a well known brand.
@MegaLokopo Жыл бұрын
When will phone companies in the us start offering unlimited 3g data? 2g is so slow, most websites and apps will time out.
@martinborkovec6509 Жыл бұрын
you don't need to break a perfectly fine screen, just to show that you can swap it :/
@Voltaic_Fire Жыл бұрын
It is great that they are including all the basic hardware features like an SD slot and headphone jack but they really dropped the ball when it comes to resolution and lack of dual speakers.
@theroguenob Жыл бұрын
If this has more high end parts and potentially replaceable to either more modern parts or better ones this phone would be a hands down next one to get because this is still an amazing concept. Like the framework laptop
@tobyroberts6571 Жыл бұрын
Great video guys - thanks for making content about repairability and checking out a manufacturer 's claims regarding repairability
@RonakDhakan Жыл бұрын
15:12 This chart is misleading. The scale should start at 0 to show the true proportionate difference.
@chrispy.critter Жыл бұрын
I am confused, this was more steeps to do than my iPhone was when repairing that😂
@kiliandjfilms Жыл бұрын
Love you guys LMG, you do lots of awesome stuff... But you proved once again that reviewing low end devices is not your thing. I get that you wanna benchmark it, but no-one in their right mind is buying a sub 200€ smartphone to play 3D games. And what is even the point of the benchmark if you don't have any phone with a similar price to compare it to? The Pixel 6a... is a 350€ phone, almost DOUBLE THE PRICE, and that's the closest thing you give people to compare it too? Could have at leats, bought or lended a random phone thats in the same price range to give us something to compare it too. The software support not being great is a bummer for sure, but the importance of this is a bit overstated as well. I can tell you right now, that nobody in my extended family cares about what android version they are on, even less so what security update they got. This will not affect the average buyer of this phone's decision making when it comes to replacing it. The slow SOC will, that is true, for that reason, i would have much preferred it if Nokia put the money they spent on the 2 extra camera's towards a better SOC. Im not saying this is an amazing device, it is not... But its not half as bad as this video makes it look like given its price and repairability.
@abdullahlibzo6914 Жыл бұрын
If Nokia actually sticks to this I will 100% buy a Nokia as my next phone
@Mr.Morden Жыл бұрын
I appreciate Nokia's efforts here but they also need to focus on software support. I have a 5.3 and Nokia 5.3 users have been dealing with ghost touching for over a year now. Major OS version updates are over a year behind too and security updates can be many months apart (in violation of the Android One commitment). Plus Nokia only promises 3 years of security updates which is behind the 4 years of their primary competitor Samsung. Nokia also selects dimmer screens and slower SoCs. Seems like Nokia (HMD Global) has too many models for a company their size to manage.
@danke236 Жыл бұрын
Nokia 5.3 owner here too, software updates really really slow to push, and lots of bugs everywhere. It's a decent phone tho but I can't recommend it after 3 years
@JerziTBoss Жыл бұрын
Former Nokia 5.3 owner here. I couldn't last more than a year with the phone, I had so many issues and bugs that I just went ahead and bought whole different phone.
@genethebean7597 Жыл бұрын
15:42 No offense to the LTT team but this is not a good graph. Usually I like their graphs but this one is just misleading
@CJBMAGGOT94 Жыл бұрын
Hey look! A repairable phone that nobody would actually want to use. Great job.
@isaacwatanabe9599 Жыл бұрын
Gone are the days of the invincible nokia...
@Scoops_F1 Жыл бұрын
Claims to have no idea what the inside of the phone looks like. Has a teardown skin his laptop.
@Fliim Жыл бұрын
Another problem on top of being relatively mid range spec, is the security and feature updates time period. What’s the point of buying a repairable phone if it is only going to get maybe 2 years of security/feature updates.
@dyscotopia Жыл бұрын
A perfect phone for a phone repair person's elementary school aged kid
@r0tax7 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy this presenters style, great job on these recent videos. Especially for a ShortCircuit. Chill and much less Chaos-energy than some other presenters and videos. Not too interested in this phone specifically, but welcome 'user serviceability' of any device, and would like to see it in more.
@gitcat6671 Жыл бұрын
it's like they almost kneecapped the specs to make it less enticing...
@lezzbmm Жыл бұрын
i think the outdated parts r kind of a value add when ur looking for a phone u wanna not care abt breaking and buying replacement parts for
@mosemister Жыл бұрын
So glad your showing nokia phones after Linus said "who is buying Nokia phones" on the WAN show. Would like to see higher end phones from Nokia such as the 50 series
@aebisdecunter Жыл бұрын
I worked on repairing all kinds of phones, and this type of screen repair is more difficult than on an iPhone and especially some Google Pixels. This is type of assembly is the same as in most other cheap android phones, like Samsung A series, Xiaomi and it's brands, BBK's brands liek OPPO, Oneplus, etc. Glueing the screen to the whole frame isn't repairable at all, just look up the repairs on Pixels, that's how it should be done. The only repairable thing is the additional awailability of a few parts straight from ifixit. It's not that difficult to source even original parts for most of the new phones, a bit harder for iPhones, though.
@trelauney Жыл бұрын
13:45 Is it washed out, or automatic skin lightening? Obviously things are getting processed if you can set a bokeh shape. (if it's an option... I'd turn it off. But I also have some idea how to light things.)
@Juurus Жыл бұрын
Great, now make a phone worth keeping.
@Voltaic_Fire Жыл бұрын
I reckon the inflated price is to make up for the money they are missing out on repairs/replacements, and I think the phone is so bad so they can claim people don't want repairable phones when it inevitably doesn't sell.
@adagioleopard6415 Жыл бұрын
Hey! I actually use the macro camera on my Galaxy A71 frequently at work. I work with small electronics and it's actually useful if you don't wanna go to the microscope every few minutes.
@drmohammedalmasri Жыл бұрын
I feel like Nokia are using some left overs from other entry level phones that cost nearly as nothing and slapping an iFix it logo on it to try to be the nice guy that cares for the customers. 200 bucks can get a really decent entry level phone these days with maybe like 5 times the performance of this phone, and still have a 1080p screen with good features. Even for my old grandpa this phone would be bad. Sorry Nokia but I am not sold, not like that.
@ninetenduh Жыл бұрын
Plastic backs are something we in Europe should get accustomed to, because of the ban on non-replaceable/built in batteries.
@Gummipalme Жыл бұрын
They are Not completely banned - either have to be replacable or it hast to be Made Sure that they have a longer lifetime. One of that ist enough.
@oplkfdhgk Жыл бұрын
i do like plastic backs so i am fine with that. i just hate glass backs cus they break so easily.
@neruwu Жыл бұрын
Plastic backs >>> glass backs A nice metal back though, that would be perfection
@AchiragChiragg Жыл бұрын
@@neruwuat the cost of wireless charging
@neruwu Жыл бұрын
@@AchiragChiragg Wireless charging is so dumb tho. It's inefficient as fuck, heats up your phone damaging the internals and entices to charge in small bursts destroying batteries which is the main thing that breaks phones. Have a phone that has wireless charging now, loaned a charger from my family to try it out and literally only used it once just so I actually try it and I could have just as well plugged in the cord, would've taken 1 second longer and given me more charge
@ShowXTech Жыл бұрын
The price droped a bit, Nokia themselves offer the 128GB for 179€, on the free market you can get it for 160€-170€
@gamertherapyconsoleyoursel5804 Жыл бұрын
I wish you would either compare the phones to similarly priced new phones or show the prices on the comparison graphs.
@GanDtech Жыл бұрын
These repairable phones always so bad specs wise you wish they'd break :/
@youngThrashbarg Жыл бұрын
In other video the battery was glued in so tight, the guy actually bent the battery while trying to get it out.
@claudiojaramillo5177 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for a new phone and this might be the one to be honest, perfect for my use : cheap, durable, repairable
@stlbum Жыл бұрын
Its almost like they made an obsolete phone repairable on purpose so when no one buys it they can say "We tried making repairable phones but nobody wants one"
@loganhuwe9458 Жыл бұрын
like the video. definitely could’ve been a full LTT video!
@allenqueen Жыл бұрын
Was this host ever part of Verge or any mobile tech review channel? I feel I've seen him before
@FastWinWalkthroughs Жыл бұрын
As a person who spends most of his time at PC and if I leave at PC, all I want to do with my phone is take message or call, this would be perfect.
@CateChapelle Жыл бұрын
This “repairable” phone seems to have a harder to replace screen than a modern pixel.