It's $600 and stupid, but I LOVE it!!! - Angry Miao R3 Cyberboard Wireless Keyboard

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There are keebs, and there are KEEBS. The Angry Miao brand fits in with the latter category. Their R3 keyboard is a solid piece of hardware with smooth buttery key switches, a customizable LED color screen, a wide arrange of color variations, and even wireless. But, the keyboard costs about $600... and I LOVE IT.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - Intro
0:47 - Unboxing
2:17 - Exterior impressions
2:54 - Sponsor - Ridge Wallet!
3:16 - Exterior impressions continued
4:49 - Key Switches
6:11 - Initial complaints
6:55 - LED Panel
8:42 - Typing impressions
10:30 - Wireless charging port
11:00 - Final thoughts

[@Azeria]

So it’s got a keyboard that points towards you so it’ll give you RSI, and a screen that points away so you can’t see it and it’ll reflect everything?

[@jo_naash]

It's like an anti-Riskeyboard, which, while not looking as premium, at least has the screen pointed directly at you.

[@laffeybunn8557]

the curves are for the cybertruck look. the keyboard is form over function

[@thefatmoop]

And the display shines towards your monitor. Bet that'll make some nice glare

[@reeeez2369]

i hate the keyboard community lmao. They are willing to spend 600 on a keyboard with a standard metal frame, overpriced key switches, and a hunk of gold on the bottom to make it feel like its heavy and has quality and deem it as a feature.

[@Ragnorok64]

@@michasopa4305 Putting shine through keycaps on a board like this would definitely be a keyboard faux pas.

[@tinncan]

$600 will buy you a nice keyboard and enough alarm clocks to cover every inch of your sight line sitting at your desk...

[@cyruscuckler3495]

Yea.. but this is LTT! Why not spend ridiculous amounts of money on frivolous things!?

[@neolordie]

that's not much for a keyboard

[@Vinnyy_zip]

You must be new to the enthusiast keyboard community 😂

[@moonlightfilms5279]

Yeah it may be a lot, but it’s like a disease, I’m ready to buy a Rama Works m60 and it has no screen for $450, and I have a Rama Works Thermal on the way which cost as much as the cyberboard with the extra plates I picked up for it… I have keyboards under my bed….

[@Vinnyy_zip]

@@moonlightfilms5279 I just got me owl lab mr. Suit coming in. I already have a Vega. Mr suit about 400-500? Vega 350 ish.

[@mite4099]

I got this board. IT IS NOT WORTH IT. The software absolutely kills the experience as it is buggy/glitchy as hell. It types… and thats about it. Even $200 custom boards have better software function than it and thats not a joke. I 100% would not recommend it because the software is not good at all.

[@Alpeyy]

Did you end up returning it?

[@Cyrax89721]

Ok, but software can at least be fixed. if the keyboard itself is cool, give them a couple months.

[@papamaanbeerVideo]

woud you consider sending it to this guy ;)

[@derkaiser9881]

@@Cyrax89721 For $600 they shouldn't need a couple months. Plus, this isn't even the first version of the board. It's the third round! By now you'd expect a smooth software experience.

[@TomYourmombadil]

@@Alpeyy it was a group buy, usually you can’t return unless there’s physical damage on the PCB or case

[@saitokun5304]

Inventory: Hey, any of you guys know where the $600 keyboard went? Plouffe: 👀 **gentle blissful typing sounds continue**

[@stethorpe4686]

In defence for Nicholas... "Once it's down there it's staying there, good luck moving it"

[@JiSe6669]

Why do you think the inventory number will be on the box. "Oh I was supposed to return the keyboard to the box... My mistake, I will do it when I am done with..."

[@Chris-hw4mq]

At 60$s I would buy one but not 600

[@Martin_from_SC]

So wait... the display part is angled away from you... it'll just reflect off the monitor if you have one of those glossy ones.

[@MaskedMammal]

Well I mean... how else are you gonna see your keyboard display if it's angled away from you?

[@TerribleToaster]

@@MaskedMammal why is that display angled away from you in the first place?

[@MaskedMammal]

@@TerribleToaster I wish I had a clue... I can't wrap my head around how it could make sense.

[@TheRealPanacamanana]

Yeah, but the reflection isn't going to be correct for you. Unless you can read shit backwards.

[@TerribleToaster]

@@MaskedMammal I think they tried to go for a cyberdeck feel, except this keyboard has none of the good things of a cyberdeck.

[@toufusoup]

Other reviews like BadSeedTech and such cover some pretty hard shortcomings with this board, such as very basic/unfinished layout/firmware customization. Albeit this is a very cool looking board unless you're completely sold on the LED screen like this guy and ignore everything else, even an enthusiast like me who's been in the hobby for nearly half a decade now thinks this thing's a pretty hard sell.

[@voldem0rt]

Easy sell and the Hatsu is an easy sell too.

[@derkaiser9881]

I just don't like it that much because of how boring it is. It's pretty much a run-of-the-mill gasket mounted 75% keyboard. The biggest sell is the LED screen, and to be honest it's not even that useful: not only does the screen face away from the user, but if you're using a keyboard in the first place you've got a monitor in front of your face. Overall it just kinda looks dope, but you can do that for less than $600 in the keyboard space no problem.

[@PeaceItUp]

I think you are asking a bit for an unboxing channel, it's not a review just a quick look at.

[@springbok4015]

@@derkaiser9881 I don’t think it’s even an LCD screen. Seems like just LED’s clumped together to form very big pixels.

[@nickthaskater]

@@derkaiser9881 considering the biggest differentiating factor for most custom boards is the design of some corner blocker or the weight, having a giant LED panel and a "truck" aesthetic along with wireless charging and Bluetooth are pretty big differentiating factors.

[@Pest789]

TL;DW; It comes in a 2003 mall kiosk poker chip set case, which is impressive somehow. It's fully hotswap but comes with no tools. It does come with stickers though. It's too steep, but that's ok because maybe I should like a steeper keyboard because this one is steeper. It's hotswap, but there's no clearance around the keys to hotswap but that's ok because no clearance is probably better because this one doesn't have much clearance. It requires a cable but doesn't come with a cable, but that's ok because you can't expect a super expensive keyboard to come with a cable can you? It has a screen that's right side up for people who can't see it and upside down for people who can. I can't type well on it but that's ok because I'm clearly not used to a good keyboard. I want this keyboard badly because I've talked myself into thinking it's really good even though everything I said about it is bad. It will say my name on the screen.

[@kevinwells9751]

This is a shockingly accurate explanation of this video

[@nankinink]

I did notice that although Plouffe has some insane typing speed, his opinions are.... not very rational

[@nickthaskater]

You must be new to custom keyboards. This isn't a Steelseries.

[@Pest789]

@@nickthaskater Fancy expensive shitty design is still shitty design.

[@nankinink]

@@nickthaskater If having all this cons and STILL paying a premium is the norm, I'd rather join the audiophiles because they are less crazy

[@lightjack0540]

Update on the Windows 11 clock situation: There is an option to show it on all displays currently in the preview builds. It will probably arrive in stable builds either with the next feature update or with a smaller update down the line.

[@rileybryant5975]

I ended up just installing elevenclock, works great and looks the exact same as the system clock

[@deathreus]

When Windows 10 is better than 11 at something, but man I just want to move my task tray to the other screen

[@CampamentoUL]

I hope this is real

[@The_Keeper]

Another feature that should have been in at release. 👍

[@lightjack0540]

@@The_Keeper The released build was litterally the same build number as the first insider build (except for like 2 hotfixes). Microsoft basically released a beta product...

[@madbuldog]

A real keyboard enthusiast would ask "Have I spent 600$ on keyboards so far?", and the answer would be obvious "Just on switches so far".

[@Istasdaa]

Or you know, they just use a Model M.

[@dakaringer]

Pft... ONLY $600?

[@matasa7463]

@@Istasdaa It never stops at just a Model M. But you definitely would want to try it at the very least.

[@rawdez_]

with videos like this about "very cool" overpriced af crap LTT/other youtubers/"influencers" normalize overpriced products which in turn leads to all products for everyone being overpriced. idk if they realize that and are doing it on purpose or not and they are just dumb and out of touch.

[@matasa7463]

@@rawdez_ eh, you don’t really know about the custom keyboard hobby huh? The Cyberboard is considered to be a bit of a meme and overly expensive, but it’s by no means endgame nor the most expensive. Have you ever seen the TGR Alice or the Keycult boards? The Mode Eighty starts at around 500 USD. We do have budget stuff though, like the Freebird TKL and Freebird60, the KBD67 Lite R3, and the Keychron Q1. But we all want that amazing endgame board. I’m still waiting for that must buy board.

[@Cybolic]

It's a shame that you didn't go more into looking at the keyboard apart from just the basic visuals. What other configuration options are there for the display? Does it come with its own software? For which OS'es or maybe it's web-based? Is there software for configuring the keyboard layout or does it perhaps run a fork of QMK? You mentioned it could be built - how and where would one find out more about that? This was closer to just being an unboxing video.

[@bastienx8]

They created ShortCircuit for the unboxing videos, even if the recent videos looks more like small reviews there isn't anything missing here for the main purpose of unboxing

[@DuyLeNguyen]

The entire point of the Short Circuit channel is to do unboxings. If you want more in-depth reviews, you'll need to go to the main LTT channel

[@adambarta8751]

It is supposed to be close to unboxing video. I bet there is quiet a bit of other channels that tried this keyboard and did a full review. Not everyone has to do the same thing. I'm fine with just watching unboxing and then searching up something that goes more indepth if I want :)

[@nickthaskater]

@@bastienx8 then it should be an unboxing, not a "I'm going to try and guess what features these are and then be totally wrong for 10 minutes." The actual "unboxing" lasted for all of 30 seconds and was completely glossed over.

[@slendydie1267]

it is just first impressions not a review

[@goemboeck]

It does sound nice, but lacks practically all the features I want/need from my board. Does the LED thingy reflect from monitor?

[@GutnarmEVE]

"Does the LED thingy reflect from monitor?" - this.

[@creaturerecords]

what does it lack?

[@goemboeck]

@@creaturerecords A quick switch between Mac/Win is a must for me, as is a numpad. also it looks a bit of a drag to get the switches out from this one - currently i've 4 different switches on my board and it seems that project is never quite finished.

[@Ericdanman2]

Cyberboard owner here. No it doesnt reflect of my moniter. You can change the brightness of the per key rgb and screen rgb separately if that was a concern. I haven't found anything i would want to do with my qmk/via boards that the AM software cant do.

[@jfolz]

So keyboard enthusiasts are basically the equivalent of computer audiophiles.

[@nickthaskater]

"Enthusiasts" of anything typically have some overlapping tendencies.

[@chupacabra377]

Yes. Only difference is, it comes with a lot of tinkering and DIY.

[@pumpkinLive]

Unlike keyboards, audiophile stuff is usually in stock

[@armeli]

Nah. In hifi and audiophile communities there's tons of misinformation and snake oil selling. Like "audio enhancing" stones that might cost hundreds of dollars and you are supposed to put them in a corner somewhere and the sound will just magically be better. Keyboard enthusiasts fully know that they are not getting anything meaningful for their money. They seem to understand that they are paying for the feeling, looks and sound. They know that every single 60% layout keyboard is functionally pretty much exactly the same. I bought a keyboard that cost me a bit over $300. Year later the same company released the exactly same keyboard but it was red instead of black and it's a limited edition. What did I do? I bought it. It cost over $400. Did I get anything for my money? Functionally, nope. But I got a red keyboard that does the exact same thing as the previous keyboard. Now that I think of it... maybe I should go and buy some of those magic hifi stones..

[@gvnady8380]

Its a hobby, same thing with car community, camera community, timepieces, etc

[@SpineShank7]

Ah yes. The ideal screen orientation... Angled, 45 degrees away from you

[@igameidoresearchtoo6511]

Your view ricochets off of the screen! amazing! so it ricochets off of the screen and onto the table, very amazing invention if you ask me.

[@bl4nk451]

A screen that I will never see? I'm all in boys!

[@izr1t3]

Can't wait until they inevitably build a keycult on short circuit

[@Qwapa]

Let’s hope it goes better than Kristofer Yee’s 😂😂😂

[@SplyBox]

I'm here for it

[@Ghost19_]

Might be the first time I'd recognized them as a keyboard enthusiast if that ever happens.

[@NigelMelanisticSmith]

I thought my ZenBook Duo could use a bit closer display tilt, and this keyboard has the Display tilted away from the user lol

[@henrysalayne]

"I bet you can't sell a $600 keyboard with a display facing away from the user" - "Challenge accepted!" This is objectively the worst keyboard design of all times. I don't know why anybody would buy it. Even Plouffe is like "fixed 10 degrees is too steep for me" and then continues with "I will get one and just add a wrist rest". Keyboards are supposed to be tools and I get the slight feeling this kind of product is for the costumer who likes to take that place. 🙃

[@clxxxvii.]

I absolutely cannot understand how even one unit made it to production without someone realizing the giant screen you can't even see running down the battery, glaring off your monitor, is the worst design decision ever implememented into any single piece of technology in history.

[@thiago-go]

Who buys this?!

[@HerraMonoTooni]

I guess this keyboard is for a lan party to show others that you(or your parents) have money... (Assuming lan parties are a thing in 2021 any more(even if there wasn't pandemic going on)... i'm old....)

[@jspiro]

They even skipped out on necessary keys like home and delete. The places where they cut corners like not including a stylish cable are even more bizarre than the shit "design" and bizarre anti-counter fitting. Why would anyone counterfeit this?

[@hanabisunmin9581]

@@jspiro keyboard enthusiasts usually match their cables to their keycaps, also people buying that kind of keyboard already have USB c cables. So I don't rly see it as a problem

[@Paz_Soldan]

So often I watch LTT and it's family of channels and it's right over my head, but my Fandom comes from watching folks talk about what they love.

[@user-mn7tg4vz6e]

wow, that costs more than my entire build...

[@gee.g.3131]

"If you´re buying a 600$ keyboard you most likely already have a keycap puller" - yes, most likely you have at least 7....

[@dburnnzz]

11:05 - I'd assuming that's for the wireless antennas, since the rest of the board is metal it makes sense they would have a plastic panel for them. Love these keyboard ShortCircuits!

[@aaronschwanke3563]

I feel like products at that high of a price should give an option when buying it if you want a usb cable, give the option for c to c or c to a, and even if it costs a couple dollars to have it ship with a cable, the option to include one would be really nice. Even the new phones that dont come with chargers, the option to include one if you want it! Would be much appreciated.

[@MASB29]

In custom mech keyboard, there are already established cable maker. There would be very small amount of people that buy this keyboard that will include cable in their purchase

[@squidwardo7074]

@@MASB29 It's a $600 keyboard, they can spend an extra 1% effort to throw a cable in the box lol

[@andrewalexander9508]

Everyone else is complaining about what they don't like about the board. So I figured I would say something useful. The plastic strip next to the USB connector, is not an LED. It is just a plastic cover for the Bluetooth unit/antenna. Since the rest of the case is Alu and it would block the signal, as much of a break in the looks it is, it's the only way to get decent wireless performance.

[@Wignut]

"These switch pullers kinda suck" That's probably because those are ring style keycap pullers lol

[@c00lme96TheFirst]

Keyboard enthusiast be like: Great "Budget" build.

[@matasa7463]

Nah, this board is something insane. It’s up there with stuff like the TGR boards.

[@Klaus3672080887]

That Tabula shirt from Poe 😁

[@play3r369]

$600 is rookie numbers for keyboards

[@bittrippn6570]

It's pretty neat looking if you're lookin for this specific aesthetic, but It's for sure a boutique level product and they're charging a ton for it just because it's so niche.

[@sylph_king]

Had to look it up. They are golden red TTC switches and gotta say love the choice i find the ttc linears are usually really nice for typing

[@EdwinPohan]

I mean the theme of Cyberboard itself is looking unique and a big statement compared to the other rectangles for around the same price. It wasn’t meant to be like the best experience of premium keyboards to begin with. You’d be surprised how many times just looks alone can be the greatest selling feature compared to the competitions.

[@saltyowl3229]

That would be really cool for a streaming setup, I could think of a way to write a script that tracks your inputs with mouse and keyboard to make an image compatible with the keyboard software so it just has your inputs scroll over the panel as you press more. Like how some streamers have a mouse or keyboard cam, but instead of adding a keyboard overlay someone to the stream overlay and highlighting keys on that picture, inputs are just shown on the cam

[@thejackal007]

At a cost like this, I still expect the cables to come with as well as key pullers. It might seem petty, but I don't think we should encourage more companies to pull an Apple and charge premium prices and also not give you basic items as well.

[@Omegapork]

That particular colour combined with the design really strongly reminds me of beige cash registers. Which I guess makes sense considering how much money you have to put into this thing to get one.

[@DrakeTain]

Hey, I’d like a keyboard but it needs to have a screen that is only visible by the bottom of my monitor. Is that okay?

[@clavius5734]

Actually really liked the background noise (people talking, music, hvac). Makes me feel I’m at a convention or something with a friend showing me something cool he found.

[@unconsumedsulphur]

Glad LTT is branching into this kind of stuff

[@MingRose]

This board not having VIA support is a dealbreaker. If I'd never experienced the ease of use that VIA provides, I'd think differently, but now that I've had it and it's almost standard at this point, I can't go back.

[@spykillergames8402]

whats VIA support

[@goemboeck]

Never heard of that before..

[@NAM_137]

@@spykillergames8402 VIA, QMK, ZMK, and probably at least a couple others, are various firmwares that can be run on enthusiast keyboards like this. They allow for things like macros on single keypresses, switching to function layers while holding whatever keys, or even different numbers of taps on a single key doing different things. ZMK, I think, is the one that supports bluetooth-enabled microcontrollers, QMK is the most popular, and VIA is I think second most popular after QMK.

[@derkaiser9881]

@@spykillergames8402 For some background, the "norm" of the hobby is using QMK--super important and has as much support as you'd want, but it requires people to stare at .txt files to change their keymaps and then flash their keyboard with it. VIA is an alternative that skips the flashing part (where you put the keymap file you made onto the keyboard), and allows you to do so with a nice GUI a lot faster. TL;DR - VIA support lets you change the keymap of a keyboard super fast.

[@malisa71]

@@NAM_137 for a 600$ you expect the keyboard to support all of that... This is just a big fat paper weight.

[@theyattguwai7987]

Nice Tabula Rasa shirt, did you have any time for the Endless events? Would love to see you guys take on their insane split ergo keyboard from this same company!

[@monomonster]

The shape of the keys reminds me of the Tandy CoCo 3 keyboard and that is a good thing. The CoCo 3 had a great keyboard. Boy! That tells you how old I am. I do like the sound of the key presses.

[@siegekeebs]

Nice to see an actual custom keyboard on here.

[@michaelingrum4960]

Man I was so excited to see a keyboard like the g510, a big ass customizable LCD screen that I can slap random stats and maybe discord on. Or even a big version of the Mac touch bar thing. But no, pretty squares for 600 big ones.

[@haolun83]

He looks so happy, unlike any other keyboard review he did before.

[@meowkitty69]

I don't really enjoy watching this guy hes kinda boring and sounds so unenthusiastic

[@moya036]

​@@meowkitty69 IMO he has been a great addition to the team because you can notice that he is really into the hobby, not just reading from a spec sheet, he seems to truly enjoy taking a keyboard apart and tweaking it to get the precise THOCC. The videos where he is appearing are doing a great job providing enough information about keebs for the layman but with enough details to catch the attention of any enthusiast. And someone has to lift some of the responsibility from James, who is the only member of the team remotely interested in products like this

[@TravisLohmannMusic]

Currently, my 2 main boards are a Mr. Suit v2 with Lubed and Filmed Tangies, and a Plateless 7V with Azure Dragons- excited to get a r3 Cyberboard with Aqua Kings!

[@coledeko]

there’s something up with the sound isolation on this video. not using a lav? i get there was ltt recording or whatever, but there’s a lot of hvac/background noise. no big deal though. great vid!

[@AlejandroNovoaWorks]

11:05 Bluetooth passthrough, alu is not the best for bluetooth signal

[@Appauling]

With how awkward it is to pull the keycaps off, they absolutely should have provided tools for it. I guess it's one of the more minor shortcomings of the product, but still, seems like a super easy win.

[@turkeykaiser]

If you're paying $600 for it, they should probably include a puller and a cable at the minimum.

[@MrWizardjr9]

i didnt have a ton of issue with the akko keycap puller i have. his keycap puller is really wide for some reason it seems. you can always take it out of the case though thats a bit of a hassle.

[@piplup10203854]

I really like the sound of that keyboard 😮 it sounds incredible! I’m honestly a silver switch kind of guy so I didn’t expect to like that sound at all but it hits just the right audio spot for me and I’m like 👀 but it’s 600 dollars… and for me it’s not a split keyboard 🥲 I really like my split keyboards with Ortholinear layout. I do love the aesthetics of this though and I do wish it came with a switch puller and the screen is nice. If I had the money just laying around I’d be tempted to get this. I’m good with 10 degree angle of typing. It not coming with a cable is pretty bad 😕 I mean I do have a custom cable but I would need to get another custom cable just for this cause mine isn’t usb c

[@brent7368]

Good video - Would love to see a dedication typing section with no voice over so we can hear the switches in action!

[@krikun98]

Is he using a cheapo snap-on keycap puller for switches?

[@lazyreuvin]

Just a small point, if you're doing a short review on a $600 keyboard, it'd be nice to see some of the internals, actually know what the switches are and maybe show how much work may have gone in to putting this together. I don't think us enthusiasts care how long this is compared to a plush banana. All this product looks like right now is a 'flex' keyboard for wankers who have too much money to throw away..

[@monKing87]

This is the unboxing and first impressions channel...

[@noahwilke]

It's actually a really great board, the firmware isn't super customizable but it's super well built. I have the frosted polycarbonate one and it sounds and feels amazing (after swapping out for some lubed switches)

[@ized88]

Isn't that exactly what it is? Is there really that much advantage to a good "normal" keyboard for like 100€?

[@armeli]

@@ized88 Well with that typing angle it will probably give you massive wrist pains you would not have otherwise. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@lazyreuvin]

@@monKing87 they often open other products in videos to quickly have a look at anything of interest (laptops, hand-held gaming consoles) , and he had a segment in the video where he actually took out a switch to have look at... If they are trying to sell a $600 (which the keyboard makers clearly hope they are) product we need a bit more info especially at that price..

[@LadBooboo]

Gonna love the glare on a screen that points away from you towards your screen

[@voldem0rt]

I got my Basalt Black CyberBoard Today. It's not a Le Smoking edition but after 6 freaking months. I am literally building it as we speak.

[@AngryBerb]

Putting Cherry red switches in this board has got to be a felony in at least 34 countries.

[@metalnoob3807]

I don't think they're Cherries though I agree that if someone thinks it's a better idea over eg Tangerines then there's no way they can be stopped, they're too powerful

[@nickthaskater]

They're TTC Golden Reds but yes, the point essentially stands. That said, that's what Angry Miao put in the prebuilt version of the board.

[@mohedaicebear]

Man I just I want say how well lmg is good at finding personalities to these videos outside of the main channel..all the ppl you bring in have not taken away from the ltt experience. It's very hard to rotate talent but I like these guys they present everything well and make me want to care about what they say

[@De.Pe77]

Thought the same thing. They all feel approachable and no pushy radio/video talker salesperson who just….aaargh Can’t type anymore…got bored. LTT crew rocks so keep up the good work guys!

[@rmichelli1231]

Not sure where these were going for $400? Mine was $656 with shipping which was a RIDICULOUS $86. Also took 27 to arrive from the creation of the label. Ordered through Space Cables with direct shipment from Angry Miao. They used a cheap middle man courier to hand off to DHL which took 21 days. This was the only shipping option also.

[@elenchus]

i feel like you could just buy a really nice clock for the wall. a marathon jumbo digital or a seiko silent analog would work

[@charlesgrove6905]

Interesting design choices, a bit incoherent for user experience though it appears, wireless qi charging on a 7 pd laptop is odd, I couldn't imagine traveling to and fro work with this but perhaps others are built different. I can hear the build quality though and can definitely understand why Nicholas would be taken aback. I can see someone getting the right colorway and switch combo with a nice wrist rest and making this one hell of a deck to daily but that's only if splurging this amount isn't even a thought.

[@nickthaskater]

I don't think anyone is taking a Cyberboard with them to work (although maybe you could use the included case for just that). The wireless charger i to complement the Cyber Mat so you don't have a wire sticking out of the keyboard to charge/use it.

[@theyehsohz]

nah this isn't a daily, it's like a tuesday/thursday board, dailies are beaters

[@j_c771]

a wireless charging coil in the center?

[@PaulGrayUK]

That just sounds a pure delight and your review kinda back up that it is as good, if not better than it looks and sounds. One without the tetris display and indeed battery/wireless option would be palatable for price. Though most good keyboards do tend to be heavy, so interesting consideration and wonder how it would feel and sound without the batteries inside. Reminds me of the early computer terminal days kind of look to it, also has a that newbury sound, only better.

[@xxstealerxx]

it's giga overpriced and not even close to worth buying

[@chainsawfreak]

I used to switch keyboard pretty often because I was buying the cheapest membrane stuff around (at first wired than wireless, etc.). It was like 1.5 years or less per keyboard or something and after that something would break. I've bought a razer black widow in 2015 and I'm still typing on it now (changed key caps, added some rubber o-rings to dampen the sound a bit), some things don't work as they should though, and that's mostly about the stabilizers on the large keys, especially the spacebar is basically unpressable with my left thumb, but I mostly use the right thumb for it and it works. The Enter key also sometimes gets stuck as well. I guess my point was if I was to buy another keyboard I really want to know the type of stabilizers they use and how easy it is to get the large keys mounted and unmounted and how well they survive wear and tear. You're not supposed to change your keyboard after a couple of years it should still work years after, but I do wish stuff like the stabilizers would be better designed

[@nickthaskater]

Stabilizers are an easy fix, especially if you get a hotswap board. If you have plate-mount stabilizers like many prebuilt consumer boards, even easier. Don't be afraid to take the caps off of the affected keys and have a look. If you get another board, you can aim for something that's more serviceable along the lines of a typical custom build that can be easily disassembled and modified/maintained.

[@BlacklistBill]

If you buy a keyboard for $400-$600 it should not only have a USB cable and a key cap puller, but both of those should be the most premium versions of those very affordable parts available.

[@cheesewheele1014]

Pretty much every $400+ custom keyboard doesn't come with cables or a key cap puller. You are paying for a premium case not the accessories that come with it.

[@sorimasn]

@@cheesewheele1014 if you can’t even boot the damn thing without the cable, that’s like selling prebuilts/laptops in big box stores without an os. “You’re just gonna do a fresh install anyways”. At that pricepoint, I’d expect a high quality accessory that is necessary to the first time setup of the device.

[@huantian]

@@sorimasn if you’re getting this board moat likely you already have your own custom cable prepared and youre not going to use their cable. In fact adding rhe cable will just FORCEFULLY add another 70 bucks to the product which you might not use, and same goes for the switch puller. If you already have a cable would you be happy to be forced to spend another 100 bucks for one you’re not going to use? Thats what modularity is about. And honestly I’d prefer my laptops without an os, that way I wont have to pay for a crap OS with ads What they could have done is had a nice color matching cable for 70 bucks extra if you want it, and those who do can buy it! Solves all the problems people are having

[@nickthaskater]

@@huantian boards and cap sets will often launch with accessories to complement (artisan caps and cables, typically) that you buy separately (although frequenly included on a single product page).

[@StariusPrime]

Most of these keyboards don't even come with keycaps, switches or stabilizers either. In the enthusiast community, these things all come down to the preference of the buyer and its assumed you will customize it with your own. These are not usually "complete package experiences." As a hobby, half the fun is the customization for personal taste.

[@TheZoenGaming]

"I hate NFTs." Ah, I see that you, too, are man of culture and intelligence.

[@ltz_Kirito]

Latest windows 11 dev update( or the one prior) added the clock to both monitors just an FYI

[@hansfox]

Short circuit team 😍, a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 💻🖥🖨⌨🖱And Greetings from Hans of the Dutch Lowlands NL 😷 🖖

[@djbakasan]

I went in on the R3 group buy (so I don’t have mine delivered yet) but I’m perfectly OK w/o the cable, it honestly would just add to landfill as your assessment is spot on- anyone buying this board certainly has a cable they prefer and potentially a very expensive highly customized cable at that.

[@conormurphy4328]

Let’s act like it’s not just the company realising they can not include a cable and make a better profit margin following apple

[@nickthaskater]

@@conormurphy4328 most custom keyboards do not include such things because as was mentioned in the video, most buyers already have quality accessories and don't need throwaway items.

[@conormurphy4328]

@@nickthaskater and do you think it’s because the company cares about the environment or because they will make a slightly larger profit justifying that people already have cables?

[@nickthaskater]

​@@conormurphy4328 where did I say it was for the environment? The community wouldn't want some throwaway accessories writ large, is the point. You don't have to make an argument "for the environment" to not want excess waste. You don't seem to be very familiar with the custom keyboard community, frankly (which is totally fine). Not including such accessories is the norm for exactly the reason that has been given. It has absolutely nothing to do with trying to make more profit since it was never a question or expectation in the first place.

[@DctrGizmo]

It’s a cool keyboard but I’d get annoyed with the display reflecting off a monitor.

[@friedrich1277]

you should buy a normal mech keyboard and a LaMetric Time :D

[@DctrGizmo]

@@friedrich1277 I'm already using a SteelSeries Apex red switch keyboard :D

[@henryviiifake8244]

It wasn't even comfortable to type on, so that's already a failed mission even before the price and gimmicks.

[@therick8417]

loving all this r/mk content on LTT!

[@JamesDittoOG]

Still waiting for my ultimate KB. Hotswap switches, Ergo Split, w/ TK and metal chassis. I can find some, but never all of these features.

[@moronicron]

how are you suppose to see the display?

[@Granhier]

Seriously, what the fuck is that angle

[@inf1n1t3s33s4ll]

It's a cool board but it also has some caveats. The big one is probably no QMK/VIA support due to the closed source nature of some of the components. It does have some programming functionality but it's super basic.

[@credulousrbt894]

Hey a comment made by a verified bot channel called Light seems to have stolen your comment on this video. Can you confirm that's true?

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

For the second time ever did I now hear about something called QMK/VIA with no explanation of what it is. So I googled and found their website and that is the shittiest website ever. No explanation what so ever of what VIA or QMK is, just hype on how great it is. That is the kind of shit I hate the most about elitists. "You don't know what VIA or QMK is? Well that's because YOU DON'T DESERVE TO KNOW! Come back when you've spent a year reading everything ever published about keyboards and you might be able to UNDERSTAND just how unworthy you were!" And to anyone who wondered it's a framework for programming macros and light effects for keyboards. So, that's how fantastic it is. It replaces the manufacturers configuration software. There, how hard was that?

[@armeli]

@@blahorgaslisk7763 VIA seems to just be a software to do some very basic remapping of keys and depending on the controller board of the keyboard save a few macros on it. QMK on the other hand is a tool you can use to compile a fully customized firmware for a keyboard with layers, macro-keys, multi function keys and more. As far as I know QMK is mostly meant for micro controller based DIY keyboard builds and it just happens to be that a few keyboard manufacturers design their product to support it. I guess it can control some LED lighting as well, but I have no idea to what extent. That said, you are totally right. It's really elitist and annoying when people refer to random niche open source projects as if everyone knows what they are.

[@blahorgaslisk7763]

@@armeli I took a look at their documentation and yes, they have some pretty good options for customizing the RGB lighting. But I didn't dive deeper as I simply doesn't have that much interest in the subject. Interesting bit about compiling custom firmware for keyboards, but again not something I feel the need for personally. I have had keyboards, mice and joysticks that were programmable and though it was kind of fun to fiddle with, as I didn't have any real use case where the functionality made sense I never touched it after the initial excitement wore off. I did use some macros on a mouse when playing a game or two, but that too lost it's novelty pretty quickly and now it's been years since I last looked at the software. Even color customizations is a lost cause for me. I've been using the same RGB settings for more than five years... I did get somewhat involved with a project that centered around getting remote controls to work with PC's. I spent a lot of time digging into obscure documentation for obscure opensource software with obscure names and a lot of it was written by or maintained by diehard elitists who basically thought that if you had to ask you weren't worth their attention. But I preserved and got my cheapo remote controller to work and do what I wanted, which was controlling the playback of all the Anime I was hooked on from the sofa, with options for skipping intros and changing the color space depending on how they were encoded, selecting subtitle tracks and so on. And then I threw out the TV and got a large monitor instead and the remote got sent of to the e-waste pile... So these projects are not for me...

[@lawrencetchen]

@ShortCircuit has finally entered the rabbithole proper of custom mechanical keyboards. MOAR OF THESE (plz)

[@Jdudhhsuxbsksj]

Cool I have the same thing from how grabbed my “old” one plus 5t and bought a stand and left oled clock app running…

[@blrzee]

At this point can they just build a premium keyboard from scratch? It is more likely to get a stronger engagement if you build a keyboard rather than receive a prebuilt DIY keyboard kit.

[@RolandHazoto]

:-/ This short circuit left me with questions I'd expect answered in a review... The 2 main ones being: is that bluetooth wireless or a proprietary dongle? And what IS that IR blaster lookin part??

[@nickthaskater]

It's not a review, but yeah, they definitely could have been a bit clearer on the details. It's Bluetooth. The "blaster" is a passthru for the Bluetooth signal since the case is otherwise all metal which isn't ideal for a strong signal.

[@TheJohnboyhunter]

They don't do it depth reviews for anything on Short Circuit, never have, never will. Anyone who's that interested in a $600 keyboard should be capable and really should be doing their own research.

[@withkittens2532]

​@@TheJohnboyhunter Depth reviews - sure. But this short circuit really leaves a feeling that even basics are not covered. Compare it to any other episode - guys do much better usually.

[@MrWizardjr9]

i think thats for the bluetooth and yes its bluetooth wireless

[@Slay1337pl]

This online configurator will sure be useful when they go out of business or discontinue it in 2 years.

[@MrWizardjr9]

it just spits out a .json file. you can manually write it yourself though admittedly thats a bit of a pain

[@CrestlessWave]

"Advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate so we can buy shit we don't need." -Chuck Palahniuk, Fight Club

[@starvin-marvin-the-martian]

I find it a little weird that in this review, the reviewer left so many unanswered questions. How much does it cost? I dunno, maybe $400, maybe $600, I should have looked before I came down but I didn't. Wilreless charging? It has this weird thing on the bottom, maybe that's a charger? Maybe it's not? This LED on the back? I don't know what it is but whatever, I love this keyboard. I feel like LTT could have put a bit more effort into this...

[@BoardsDarkglasses]

He didn't even tell us what the switches were.

[@Pest789]

This isn't LTT, it's Short Circuit, which is a different channel under LMG and is specifically for short format 'not a review' unboxing videos like this one.

[@Terrobility]

@@Pest789 Those 1k dislikes beg to differ (total likes are 9k, that's a high dislike ratio)

[@Pest789]

@@Terrobility What people think of the video (and much more likely, what they think of the stupid product featured in it) doesn't change the intended focus of the channel.

[@MrWizardjr9]

570-620 depending on the color. i think they got cloud white so 620. it supports qi wireless charging and yep the thing on the bottom is the charger

[@DBraJn]

What's up with the "if I recall correctly" and thinking the wireless charging "just looks like a weight or something"... How hard is it to spend 2 minutes on reading the spec sheet and preparing for the video?! Or at least letting others with basic tech knowledge present these things.

[@malisa71]

Right... Videos like this where zero useful info is given are very annoying...

[@zdanee]

Is that a proper screen running a low-res animation, or is that just a 40x5 RGB LED array?

[@adriansolis5362]

The synthwave in the background *chef kiss* As a synthwave DJ I appreciate this

[@Xenoprimate]

All the way through this video I was waiting for the big reveal about why a keyboard that gives you RSI and has a screen that faces away from you is worth $600... Then the video ended 🤔

[@MrWizardjr9]

low volume products are like that.

[@malisa71]

This is how you waste 600$ or 1000$ after getting all of the missing parts including shipping. This is for very rich or very insane people.

[@RisingRevengeance]

Kinda cool but what is the screen actually for? Like what's their explaination for a screen that faces away from you?

[@ppBizU]

How is the Linux compatibility, especially asking about the additional display

[@invyt]

Finally, a real custom keeb

[@jpinguee7564]

what do you mean by that?

[@4473021]

@@jpinguee7564 a real over-priced arthiritis machine with no feedback while typing that you'll probably set on a shelf instead of using cuz you have an addiction problem!

[@Luke-we9gj]

For those of us in the actual Mechkeeb community, hold your tongue. He's just a baby

[@-aexc-]

I usually avoid ltt videos for anything I'm actually into cause they just seem uninformed a lot of the time. luckily I'm not into keyboards at all

[@-aexc-]

@ChumnyaChum yeah that's why I watch them

[@Eli-zb2yj]

This will fit perfactly with ibm pc

[@SeraphimKnight]

So to anyone outside of the hardcore keyboard enthusiast circles, a lot of us think this board is stupid and expensive so you're not alone... ...that said the board I'm typing this message on has cost me close to that much in parts plus dozens of hours of tinkering so who am I to judge

[@HairyStuntWaffle]

I feel like if I was spending that much I'd want to make my own really.

[@nickthaskater]

They sold it as a DIY base kit as well.

[@MichaelBertolino]

If you guys are going to objectively cover keyboards on the channels now, you NEED someone experienced in the hobby. These videos will mislead people and end with them making bad purchase decisions based on the channel's behalf. I would quickly hire someone with more experience or get this guy hands on with every switch and keyboard imaginable before doing more videos like these. I already see some people commenting on how this board is received in the hobby and I would hate for it to get to the point where the entire hobby comes out of the woods and starts bashing these videos

[@infn]

Are you really going to make any purchase decisions off of a first impressions channel? If yes, you deserve to waste your money. Plus, everyone in the hobby has already seen several in-depth Cyberboard videos by this point.

[@MichaelBertolino]

@@infn 😂 Some people do. Just trying to help out/vouch for the newcomers

[@MrWizardjr9]

I mean a lot of people experienced in the hobby will also tell you its all personal preference. Unless you try out switches and keyboards yourself you are never going to know what you prefer.

[@MichaelBertolino]

@@MrWizardjr9 That's true, but I'd be more willing to trust someone with unbiased opinions that has been in the hobby for years, rather than someone who thinks a board that people in the hobby say flopped is good

[@henryviiifake8244]

Are people _really_ sold on a keyboard that's irrationally expensive, but comes with no tools or even a charging cable while also being uncomfortably steep for the average person to type on (no adjustment for that, mind you) and being delivered in really cumbersome packaging based on _this_ video? I'd hope not, given that the average LTT watcher is slightly more clued-up on tech than the general population.

[@YatriTrivedi]

I'd love an ortholinear and QMK compatible version of this

[@jsnipn]

I've wanted one of these since the concept was introduced. some day

[@VortaBlack]

The keyboard seemed pretty bad when the video started and it just kept going with disappointments. I really don't understand the sentiment of paying so much for such a disappointment of a product. It also has this weird layout and who is this "display" meant for? It's facing away from you. You just can't justify it with "oh, I can see it from here"...

[@ssleuther]

Nothing here justifies the $600 price tag.

[@VeraTR909]

Streamers I guess? or just a cool gimmick.

[@UrbanJackJr]

First time seeing something smaller that full size i bet

[@nedks11]

can someone explain why a key board with a small screen is cool? I simply don't understand his admiration for it.

[@nickthaskater]

Because it's unique and fun.

[@JimWall]

Possibly showing my age but, it reminds me of an Acorn Electron from the early '80s with a few extra bells and whistles.

[@ottoros]

I guess I understand having to be quiet to not disturb the other video, but surely there would've been a way to reduce the background hum in editing

[@_paczki]

Super interesting to see a Cyberboard review from LTT.

[@ebdubs6186]

Love to see ltt have more experiences with the world of custom keyboards!

[@ffffff1-mmmm]

doesn't mean much if he didn't build it himself

[@zechenli1407]

The thingy at the bottom is a wireless charging module, for a wireless charging desk pad designed by the same company that hasn’t come out yet!

[@WolfDeity]

I feel like Ploof was getting more exited about the price tag then the actual product.