Want better Cooling? Get this. - ASUS RTX 4070 GPUs

[@johnthomasjacobs]

I understand that most reviewers are trying to keep a positive attitude when reviewing GPU’s nowadays but looking at a $600 card and saying “It’s got a backplate even though it’s a budget card, glad to see it.” I’d hope it has a backplate at bare minimum for the price

[@ligametis]

Some Gtx 750 had that. Excited, wow, such big achievement

[@ScottGrammer]

My $329 Acer Predator Bifrost (an overclocked Intel A770) has a backplate. So....

[@Ravenousjoe]

Except that it has to do with the fact that it is MSRP, which makes it the budget version. It's worse now that they are competing against Nvidia, but before, you would never get a backplate on the MSRP or below MSRP cards like the Turbo, or Evga XC.

[@sbn025]

my msi gtx1060 6g has a backplate

[@b4ttlemast0r]

pretty sure he meant "budget" within Asus's 4070 lineup specifically, they have several 4070 models and they gotta differentiate them somehow, and this is the cheapest one, hence "the budget card". You are taking his statement out of context

[@BSGSV]

$599 "budget" card. What a world.

[@cyko5950]

its a budget card because its your entire weekly budget

[@RawfunRahman]

@@cyko5950 yearly

[@iraklimgeladze5223]

@@cyko5950 Only minority lives in developed countries. Besides, we have import tax too.

[@cyko5950]

@@iraklimgeladze5223 in south africa the 4070 can be purchased in the range 13500ZAR (741USD) to 17300ZAR (950USD) i can get a 6800xt for 12000ZAR (660USD) its sad to see the pc market go this way

[@elastichedgehog6339]

@@cyko5950 US defaultism.

[@Berkouilles]

No, thank you.

[@Ampopoltech]

former bby tech here. asus cards not realible anymore. ive seen brandnew 3080 died within two months. i stay away massive producer company. their QC is crap

[@gchamon]

​@@Ampopoltechany study with statically significant results to support the claim that ASUS is unreliable? A single defunct card hardly accounts for proof. It can be an indication, but any manufacturer big enough will produce faulty hardware that will die within a couple of months (bathtub curve of reliability X age). That is why warranty exists.

[@g_pazzini]

i think this video is sponsored by asus

[@MAWIMO0]

Agreed

[@Ampopoltech]

@@gchamon i worked on lots of prebuilt desktop varies from all brands. asus,acer,dell,hp,lenovo,cyberpower. i have a collection of dead gpus in there. majority came from asus.

[@bop4022]

Great to see big channels pushing the narrative that $600-700 cards as budget. LOVE IT

[@bpj]

Have you seen the LTT video

[@WayStedYou]

what do you mean? they call 2k dollar laptops budget too

[@HEBEJEBE]

Can't wait for the $449.99 4060 and the $299.99 4050

[@NectarineC]

But he didn’t?

[@GrimnirLaguz28]

They are pushing the REALITY. It sucks, yeah. IF your narrative is that they are happy with it and they are PUSHING it, you should watch more of their videos, where in almost every circumstance, Linus shits on everyone for these prices.

[@smilypenguin]

It’s amazing that companies raised prices, are seeing slower sales and still can’t see a correlation

[@drowley]

Well they do, but nvidia sets the price, and they still need to sell 30 series cards. Plus nvidia seems to be doing this every other generation now. Don't be surprised when the 30 series sells out and there is competition from amd and intel. You will see super cards again

[@fynkozari9271]

Anybody buying this gimped gpu? Production limited, prices lowered.

[@Kussmain1]

@@fynkozari9271 a card performing at 3080 level for $100 less and 150w less is far from gimped.

[@fynkozari9271]

@@Kussmain1 then why is nobody buying it? Is everyone stupid? 3080 is an old gpu released in 2020. Why is there a 25% performance gap to 4070ti?

[@Kussmain1]

@@fynkozari9271 supply and demand. Not everyone wants to fork over $600 for a single component in a PC. There was a price increase from the prior 70 class gpu from $500 to $600. And it’s not like anyone actually bought those because they were all scalped for crypto mining which is why the 30 series sold incredibly well. And yes the 3080 high tier GPU now getting outclassed by a mid tier. That’s typically how things go, the difference is that people bought the 3080 for $100 more with less Vram. And the 4070Ti is actually just a 4080 with less Vram which is why the gap is so high, a scummy move by nvdia I’m not defending them for that. But the 4070Ti still competes with last generations flagship 3090 which was like a $1000 gpu. So what part of getting a better frame per dollar gpu at original MSRP across an entire lineup is gimped?

[@tryhard28]

Man, remember the 1070 around 380 usd msrp and now the same tier 4070 is now more than 1.5x the price

[@TalesOfWar]

Given the spec variance on previous generations this is more like a 60 class card than 70, but with an 80 class price tag.

[@elastichedgehog6339]

If you want value for money, the 6700 XT is king right now. I'm very sick of these prices, man.

[@rustler08]

@@elastichedgehog6339 I would actually argue that it's the 6750 XT, as you've been able to find it within a few dollars of the 6700 XT. That being said, the 6750 XT, the 6800, and the 6800 XT are all amazing cards for the money, and you can just buy whichever one fits your budget. Hell, even the A770 is better than any of the equally-priced NVIDIA cards which have pathetic levels of VRAM

[@AmUnRA256]

@tryhard28 but still the same 8gb of vram :/

[@Astelch]

U have to put inflation into mind 380 in 2016 is roughly 500 bucks today. 4070 being sold at $600 bucks is really just $100 more than what the 1070 wouldve been today.

[@RifterDask]

This is somewhat unusual. Guess the AIBs are crazy desperate to move these things. I'd consider it at 500 bucks.

[@mg7335]

Internally hoping there will be huge sales since they have so much stock

[@rhekman]

The rumor is Nvidia is crediting the AIBs money on the backend to price more of their 4070 lineups at MSRP temporarily. Hopefully they sit on shelves collecting dust long enough to make the discounts permanent.

[@610jrod]

The Asus Dual model is always sold at Nvidia MSRP iirc. It's their cheapest model

[@syed2694]

Nvidia is forcing AIBs to sell half of all stock at MSRP

[@danieloberhofer9035]

​@@rhekman They are, apparently, since they dropped the MSRP in a last minute decision to an unsustainable level for AIB MSRP cards - after mandating that half of the initial shipments be these MSRP models. So AIBs are hoping that they can sell through most of their initial stock as fast as possible. Shitty move, all things considered, but that's Nvidia doing Nvidia things. Looks like EVGA made the right choice, after all.

[@bluewave2432]

EVGA dropping out of the GPU market this generation should say something about these current cards…

[@mikesapp3241]

You goddamn right

[@Thunder_Yoda]

The TUF is 1030€ here in Germany right now. I bought my 3070 Ti at the height of the GPU shortage for 850€. We should hang on to our stuff while it works.

[@Gatorade69]

But there's new stuff and I want new stuff. If I don't have new stuff I feel sad. I need new stuff to feel better about myself and my small penis.

[@Nerex7]

That's so weird when even the 4070 Ti TUF is ~900€. What the heck.

[@Adrianwe44]

Yes, I'm from Germany too and I will stick to my used 2070👌🏻

[@wouterattheorgan]

I luckily got my 3070 ti for 600, which is STILL cheaper then one of the cheapest 3070 ti models right now

[@SleepyFen]

Meanwhile the DUAL is < 700 €. I don't think the value proposition for the TUF is any good in comparison.

[@miha493]

We want better pricing, correct naming and decent amount of vram.

[@classicalextremism]

People are buying so the only direction the price will go is up. Looks like I'll be hanging on to the 1080 until 2nd or 3rd gen intel gpu forces a market shift. (I hope)

[@TalesOfWar]

@@classicalextremism Still a solid card but showing its age now in newer titles. It's kind of crazy to see it as the minimum requirement on some games now, or at least the 1070.

[@omar91448]

@@classicalextremism i'm in the same boat, hopefully we get something good from intel soon.

[@amitnandi1924]

I don't think it's too much to ask from a $600 card to handle 4K rather than 1440p. I am guessing since it was a sponsored video, Asus did'nt really wanted them to play at 4K maxed settings, but it's just a bit disappointing seeing companies charging this much for such minor performance bumps gen on gen.

[@trapical]

4k is a waste, 1440p is just as crisp and you get double the fps and responsiveness. But you are correct that for $600 it should be able to do 4k...

[@pixels_per_inch]

This should have been a 4060 at best, the die is so tiny. We all know they bumped up the numbers by one tier and the price by two.

[@Kaboomnz]

from all the reviews I've seen the 3080 out-performs the 4070 in 4k by quite a bit.

[@donmike2810]

​@Namika Lol, you're going blind. There's a big difference between 4k and 1440p, especially on 32+ inch displays. Dlss at 4k looks just as good and sometimes even better than native while getting the same amount of frames as 1440p. Fsr also exists. Frames at 4k have been a non-issue for years now.

[@donloder1]

@@donmike2810 nah, you're on some speed right there. it ain't no exact math, monitor and resolution is akin to audio. a lotta good enough, a lotta placebo. check your rma, 4k still isn't the baseline even after years now.

[@aightm8]

Yes, got to keep that 200W GPU cool at all costs.

[@dogtrollololl]

i saw that max power limit and closed the video. what a ripoff

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

4070 costs less than a 2070 FE if you do inflation, and only $10 more than the 3070 for 50-200% more performance

[@josedesa929]

​@@Gay-is-_-trash nice way of putting it. However, where I live salaries are not indexed on inflation. That means if before I could buy 5x 3070s with 1 month of salary, now I can only buy 4x 4070s... That is a huge price increase in my books.

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

@@josedesa929 Blame Biden then. Not Nvidia .

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

@@josedesa929 Wow so u get the point . Nvidia can only purchase so many GPUs for an amount of money, and since prices for silicon have gone up, and prices for smaller process nodes are going up , they need to increase prices a lot ..

[@TKIvanov]

Ah, yes, that wonderful $500 price tag.. Budget gamers rejoice!!

[@Brian-iz9sh]

$500? Add 20% and that’s your price. Nvidia and GPU’s in general have gotten too expensive. Jensen needs to put down the crack pipe.

[@bloxoss]

$500 is nothing considering the avg monthly income is 3k lol, bills usally take up about 15-35% of that leaving you plenty of room for food, water, and a new card. stop crying

[@aichismurfmaster6217]

@@bloxoss lmao actual sheep spotted.

[@DeathFanatic]

@BT-47 Equivalent performance PC’s have always cost more than consoles. Nothing new here. Consoles can also sell for a loss, GPU’s can’t.

[@DrewWalton]

​@@bloxoss tell me you're an Nvidia shill without telling me you're an Nvidia shill

[@610jrod]

Nvidia's anticompetitive practices have killed any reason to watch partner card gpu reviews. You can sum up every review as 0-3% faster regardless of partner "OC" model, possibly running a little colder if it's a 3 fan model, and costing $0-100 more than the founders model of that tier.

[@tldr365]

But FE cards don't sell in many countries, so for them these videos still matter.

[@AbbasDalal1000]

@@tldr365 but it's the same

[@donloder1]

@@AbbasDalal1000 it's still not available

[@FloresdorfGaming]

Where I live, the dual is approx. 800$. Even used 3090s are cheaper, around 710$.

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

4070 costs less than a 2070 FE if you do inflation, and only $10 more than the 3070 for 50-200% more performance

[@shiraz1736]

@@Gay-is-_-trash Don’t try to justify this overpriced garbage Jim.

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

@@shiraz1736 It's not overpriced

[@shiraz1736]

@@Gay-is-_-trash a complete rip-off, what are you 14?

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

@@shiraz1736 It's 10-20% faster than 3080, 2-3x faster in Raytracing, for $100 less.. 200 if ur not an idiot and account for inflation

[@BoostedBill96]

I would’ve like to see the dual on the test bench. Ofc the 3 fan card has great temps and low noise

[@trapical]

It was a sponsored video, Asus probably didn't want them to show how loud the double fan was.

[@alexandercheskis]

Or now it compared to the fe

[@vladimirljubopytnov5193]

Yeah.. obviously people will consider the cheaper variant, but lets just ignore it and use sample with cooler stolen from much higher thermal design. Such a big channel... you'd think they can afford to be pro-consumer... Maybe signs of Linus stepping down?

[@Just_a_commenter]

That founders edition version reminds me of the days when reasonably powerful graphics cards were just two slot units, maaaaaybe 2.5 slots from time to time. Then you got the 4090 which could be used as a house foundation... Can't say it doesn't perform well, though. I'm certain these aftermarket coolers will certainly suffice in the cooling department :b

[@davisbradford7438]

I'm fondly reminded of the Galax GTX 1070 Katana. That was a 16mm thick single slot card. Had a copper heatsink and the fan wasn't very loud.

[@TalesOfWar]

I got a Zotac 4080 that uses the same cooler as the 4090. It's fucking obnoxiously massive. It absolutely dwarfs the 2080 Super it replaced and even makes my 27" monitors look smaller than they actually are when next to them lol. I half expected it to not fit my 5000D case but thankfully it does, with plenty of room. The 12pin connector is a liiiitle close to the side panel than I'd really like it to be though haha. I may get one of those 90 degree adapters Jay was showing off a few weeks back.

[@Louis_Bautista]

I'll take a giant cooler any day if it means we get quiet cards. I don't like using headphones very much, so if I can have a gaming rig that makes minimal noise then that's the dream

[@Samsom20x]

With that size they could just add a CPU, Storage, and USB ports, and run it as a PC!!

[@ronmaximilian6953]

The 4070 and higher scream for water cooling.

[@rynosraceroom66]

Budget card ? I wish I had your budget !

[@emilyshabang]

It really is weird to see that single 8pin pcie cable on a "mid range" $600 40 series card. The Radeon RX 6600xt had two 8pin pcie cables. I know the 4070 outperforms the 6600xt but just looks weird with that single cable and you'd think there is a lot of potential that card left on the table by not including a second cable

[@coccoborg]

I wanna try a shunt mod on one of these sooo bad! Hope buildzoid gets one

[@fffrrraannkk]

Yeah it does seem odd to me. Isn't the limit on one 8 pin connector 150 watts? There is some more power that can be drawn through the slot itself (which they mention), but the 4070 seems to have so much headroom that it should be able to be oc'd quite a bit.

[@Esablaka]

@@fffrrraannkk pcie should be 75w here. So that's 225 watt in total. A 3070 could draw between 200 and 220 watt. The founders 4070 apparently draws up to 285 watt.

[@ligametis]

Because it is xx60 class card

[@AdanFS]

I don't even know of a single 6600xt with dual 8 pins. Its a 160W that comes with a single 8 pin standard.

[@user-uc5xo7yu7n]

remember when good gpus used to cost 200~400?

[@Galiant2010]

A Big Mac sandwich, no meal, runs about $6 in my area. 10 years ago, when I was in college, my friends and I used to stock up because you could get 2/$3.

[@Brix-fp3bh]

I can feel that unimpressed reviewer vibes.... 😂

[@rtbarker]

I for sure felt the "stay on script, and keep it professional, or else..." vibes.

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

4070 costs less than a 2070 FE if you do inflation, and only $10 more than the 3070 for 50-200% more performance

[@elitedestroyer0083]

If your going to charge $650+ (Most AIB models are not MSRP) you need to give 16GB VRAM

[@elbeetlebeasto]

This. Especially when some new AAA games are using 7 GB of VRAM at low settings and up to 14 GB at ultra (like The Last of Us Part 1). It's not like it would cost them a whole lot more to add an extra 4GB. A GDDR6X 2GB module runs for around $20 retail, so I'm sure a company that's buying them in bulk is getting them for substantially less than that. It's planned obsolescence at work

[@WayStedYou]

they can only do 12 or 24gb with the bus width it has.

[@elitedestroyer0083]

@WayStedYou That's not an issue we should have to worry about. If the product itself was designed with planned obsolescence then they better charge cheap prices for said product

[@thavionhawkmkii4509]

That "Wonderful $500 Price Point." I remember buying my GTX970 for $300 new and it was the second most powerful GPU Nvidia made at the time! To be honest I've been selling my customers RTX3060 12GB cards if they need a new Nvidia GPU because at $375ish new they are more than enough. If they don't need Nvidia and want more or less performance I recommend the 6500XT and 6900XT respectively.

[@MickdeRaad]

Same here! I remember buying the 970 new for under 3000 SEK (~300usd) in Sweden, taxes included. The performance improvements over the 700-series were great. Thinking that a x70 class card now is three times the price when including tax is just nuts. The fact that ltt says in this video "if you don't want to spend 1500$ on the best one, this one is way cheaper!" Just shows how Nvidia is trying to use those hugely inflated cards to sell these other hugely inflated cards.

[@EricLab97]

My problem with this review, they are flaunting the two slot gpu and everything but don't even plug it into the bench. My guess was ASUS wanted people to go for the more expensive 3 slot which is probably useless, the dual fan design would likely be enough for the 200W card and would run close to the same and not hit any thermal limits as the OC.

[@SlipknotPurity8]

If a card is a 2.5 slot card, it is a 3 slot card. I hate the decimal points. If you impede the next slot it is no longer usable, a 3.15 slot card is a 4 slot card

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

Ppl are mad at Nvidia for raising prices.. The prices are the same, but Biden caused inflation to go up this much

[@lilithstenhouse267]

Kinda? It's important for us SFF nerds (eg DAN-A4 has 2.1 slot clearance), but you are right for most people

[@124thDragoon]

@@lilithstenhouse267 maybe the standard should just be mm thickness, then? Because "how many actual PCI-E mounting slots in a chassis" a thing uses has gotten pretty archaic.

[@doogan8255]

4:04 b-b-budget card?

[@masyan3457]

Lol these days we can't even trust tech youtuber completely

[@_Kisaragi]

it's basically the same price as a 3080 yet either no better or worse performance, wow

[@D3coded_de]

Have you looked into the wattage? Not saying the 4070 is cheap, but is for sure is power efficient.

[@matteominuto230]

​@@D3coded_de ​​​Every 70 series card since Pascal has been a 20-30% improvement in performance over the previous gen's 80. The 4070 has a 0% performance improvement over the 3080 (and it sometimes performs worse at 4k), while costing more than the previous 70 series cards did. Usually the 70 series is BOTH more efficient and better than past gen's 80

[@SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat]

in europe 3080 cost 50% more than 4070

[@Teh-Penguin]

Used 3080s sell for FAR lower than that and they outperform the 4070 at higher resoultions drastically. LTT really is not a good source of reviews. They rely on advertisement money too much.

[@EliteProductions3129]

@@D3coded_de The efficiency is what's causing me to consider this card. Current GPUs haven't been very ITX friendly, and this would be a decent upgrade.

[@Call_Me_Pickle]

Hmm yes, $80 extra for about 5 FPS. Many performance. Much worth.

[@Repsikka]

Why not any Radeon cards in the performance charts? because 6800xt is cheaper and faster than the 4070?

[@Kpucin0]

Because the video is sponsored? They don't want to give a bad review to the sponsor

[@Repsikka]

@@Kpucin0 I still think even with sponsored videos, they should still be honest, or if honesty is a problem, don't do the sponsored video, they shouldn't sell out.

[@Kpucin0]

@@Repsikka they should, in LTT.. I think the Short Circuit channel focus on the sponsored products. Look at Jake face, look how 'exciting' he is while reviewing the RTX 4070.

[@theftking]

These graphics cards never come close to overheating. GamerJesus said it best: sure you can put a stupid overspec'd cooler on the 4070 and it'll _technically_ have better thermals than the founders edition but is it really worth it? _The nicest thing about the 4070 is that it's actually a reasonably-sized card._ Making it the size of a 3080 Ti isn't a positive as far as I'm concerned. If you're the type of person who cares that much about performance and squeezing everything they can out of their silicon, you didn't buy a 4070 anyway.

[@qfurgie]

we are not normalizing 600 dollar 70 series cards

[@majorjockitch]

I like how reviewers went from freaking the hell out about the prices going nuts , and now an almost 700 dollar card is "budget". Good job helping the card manufacturers make massive bank. Really , good job you're doing for them.

[@johnathanera5863]

Lol. Alright dude. Keep crying about it. This is the way things are and will likely always be. Deal with it or move on. Same as they have.

[@drdaddy777]

​@@johnathanera5863 this person is entitled to express frustration about the GPU pricing. Just because you have allowed yourself to be desensitized and now accept the normalization of insane prices doesn't mean he has to.

[@johnathanera5863]

@DrDaddy except he was not expressing dissatisfaction with JUST the prices. He was talking shit about the reviewers of said product because they live in the real world and understand that regardless of their wants, this is the current market. 600 dollars for the "budget" GPU is rediculous. But that doesnt change the FACT, that's it IS still the budget card of the current lineup.

[@lilithstenhouse267]

@@johnathanera5863 budget is defined not by the marketing teams of megacorporations, but by real people's real budgets. $600 is not budget. A second hand card for much less that does the exact same is.

[@johnathanera5863]

@Lilith Stenhouse true. Hence why I specified THIS lineup. The new 40 series cards, in the vacuum of its lineup, has cheaper and more expensive versions. The 4070 in that lineup IS the budget card. Well really the 4060 I suppose would be the budget card, but we will see I suppose. And also, no it's not up to mega corps to decide what budget is or what it quantifies as a "budget" option. But neither are you. I'm so fucking poor right now that going out to fast food isn't a budget option for food. That doesn't mean spending 13 dollars on a meal is outrageously expensive. Budget is an incredibly subjective term. Same with GPU's. To me, 600 dollars is not even in the ballpark of a budget item for me. But for many people im sure it is. You can complain all you want, but the 4070 IS the budget card on the new generation of nvidia graphics cards. (Again, until the 4060 releases and we see what the price/performance of thar card is).

[@smackers1514]

That dual version of the 4070 is $809 before taxes in Canada...

[@SparkMasterV]

I actually love my 4070 ti going from 1060. Yeah price was high but I’m not buying another gourmet for like 5-6 years

[@Platinum199]

damn, I’m gonna be going from a 1650 to a 4070 i am expecting another world

[@Aphorism89]

2 fans is cooler than 3. With the 3 fans, you are having a MUCH larger block on your case, which means more heat and less space. The 2 fans allow a smaller card, which means more open space and less heat. The 2 fans are more than good enough at cooling, specially when there is... less to cool down :)

[@thepunisher8649]

Wait till you use it in demanding games

[@Sad_King_Billy]

I'm never going to be satisfied with my rig if I keep watching these lol

[@Gatorade69]

Buy ! Buy stuff ! Spend money !

[@hhkl3bhhksm466]

You will cooonsoooom

[@SleepyFen]

Buyer's remorse is a permanent state of being for any tech enthusiast.

[@MetalLegacy34]

Man I wish I liked this card. If it was 16gb for $500 I feel like it’d be a perfect fit for me. As is, even though I’d greatly benefit from Nvidia’s productivity performance, their complete failure to read the room is really pushing me towards AMD….assuming their low-mid range cards ever come out

[@bloxoss]

august release date, might as well gets this lol

[@Astelch]

if you're looking for big vram and not interested in vr, productivity then an amd card prob your best bet to get those specs.

[@nyregrus]

Y'all put AMD on a pedestal but you won't buy from them. Their GPU market share is like an embarrasing 15%. Money talks.

[@bloxoss]

@@nyregrus True! My thoughts exactly 😂

[@FPChris]

I just ordered the dual 4070 mainly for size

[@nathanbasset]

I know it killed jake to not absolutely slander this card at it's price.

[@lonergothonline]

dude, don't worry about comments stating they can't afford things. I'm watching people 'enjoy' things that I don't bother looking into whatsoever, kinda like all those car channels! I mean, unless you go out of your way to buy every car.

[@666dreamboat]

I just wanna say to this comment section, saying no to these insulting prices is amazing and telling your not so techie friends to say no is even better. You're all amazing and you're changing things for everyone, techies unite!

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

4070 costs less than a 2070 FE if you do inflation, and only $10 more than the 3070 for 50-200% more performance

[@666dreamboat]

@@Gay-is-_-trash and the 970 launched at £259. Adjusted for inflation that's £331. What's your point? The 20x0 cards are horribly overpriced.

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

@@666dreamboat The 970 is also slower than a 1060. What's your point? 3-5x improvement for 30% more money is amazing. If AMD had 3-5x improvement for 30% more, the industry would rave about it for a whole year

[@666dreamboat]

@@Gay-is-_-trash what are you babbling about you literal bot.

[@matteominuto230]

​​@@Gay-is-_-trash Every 70 series card since Pascal has been a 20-30% improvement in performance over the previous gen's 80. The 4070 has a 0% performance improvement over the 3080 (and it sometimes performs worse at 4k), while costing more than the previous 70 series cards did. It's a ripoff.

[@greathorn]

I built my last PC in 2015 and finally got around to upgrading this past few weeks, and picked up this card. It’s crazy how much the PC economy has changed

[@PyromancerRift]

I got the RX 7900 xtx TUF and it is absolutely massive, it is so quiet i just saved 150 bucks on a waterblock because it would be useless to watercool her. And i got it for base MSRP, so its a win win win win situation.

[@anthonyexplains]

Was 100% sure when he said “but you know what its not as cool as” was gonna be followed with “our sponser”

[@Starfishtroopers]

not selling are they

[@dj4aces]

I'll pass. If Nvidia ever decides that a xx70 series GPU should be midrange in both price and performance, maybe I'll get one. This is nowhere near midrange in price, and performance is debatable. "But it has better DLSS and RT", I can hear someone say. If you value that, Nvidia will be happy to take your money. I don't. Perhaps AMD will actually compete with the RX 8000 series, in both features and price, and I can buy one of those instead.

[@AleksaB98]

Did he just call it a "budget" card with that price? Especially in non USA countries?

[@johnathanera5863]

Yes. Because it is the budget card in the current lineup.

[@--Zook--]

Hoping my 2070 super lasts many more years at these prices.

[@johnathanera5863]

It ain't gonna get better tbh. I'm going back to console soon probably.

[@EpicMrBlack6869]

Nope. Prices aren't anywhere close to reasonable. Prices come down, Nvidia get my money. Simples.

[@PaulSman123]

LOL he called the 4070 a BUDGET card. I guess it is "Budget" if your budget is the price of the average steam users whole PC.

[@RGBmode]

I can see the predicament NVIDIA are in. They want lots and lots of money, and no one told them about the ETH merge. Now they have all this mining hardware which can also be used for gaming.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

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[@callofduty611]

​ @Rainbow Dash Which uses their datacenter offerings though, which is a different architecture. I do believe Nvidia overbooked fab capacity at TSMC, from memory.

[@WayStedYou]

nah they know all about the eth merge, thats why they are pricing the 4000 so high because of the insane amount of 3000 series they still need to sell off tha they overmade.

[@spiker10069]

Surprised you didn't show off the cheaper one. I thought this channel was supposed to show off products not just one of them

[@EpicMrBlack6869]

In what universe is $700 "budget". Honestly could you be anymore out of touch?

[@SleepyFen]

Your money isn't worth as much as you're used to. Of course, graphics cards have also gotten more expensive, but five hundred dollars in 2018 is 600 $ now.

[@EpicMrBlack6869]

@@SleepyFen It just isn't. Inflation does not work that way. But imagine shilling for a company worth billions. You really believe this "inflation" nonsense? It is pure profiteering and I'll sooner go back to console gaming than start paying these ridiculous prices for PC hardware.

[@johnathanera5863]

Not out of touch. In fact you are. You refuse to acknowledge the changing world around you. This is the budget card for gaming now. It sucks but it's the truth. And things likely wont ever get better. Or at least not for a very long time.

[@TheMrKeksLp]

​@@SleepyFen Ah yes the old inflation myth. No inflation has in fact not been >50% over two years...

[@SkipEo01]

This video should have been left on the cutting room floor without a major rework. • Shows the near identical performance graph at the end for a split second • 0 actual acoustic testing (especially with the dual vs the FE) • No real thermal testing (again, especially the dual vs FE) This should really be marked as #ad. There's no objectiveness or critique at all and to merely call it 'sponsored' is incredibly misleading.

[@yevgeniykhakhaev9788]

One thing I'm excited about in regards to 4070 is the return to smaller cards that can fit SFF cases.

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

And ppl will sht on it bc "they could've used more size for VRAM and performance" when that would literally make it more expensive..

[@Svenson_IV]

I use a Lian Li TU150 case with a 600W power supply. This card is basically what I have been asking for to upgrade my 5700 XT. Not the Asus card in particular, but a 2 slot 4070 card.

[@luangabriel5967]

He sounds so passive-agressive in this sponsored video and I'm all for it

[@ronochow]

That screwdriver might've sold me on the card.

[@joescalon541]

Woohoo so excited to pay around 700$ for a 1440p gpu that might not be able to turn on ray tracing because of the vram limitation….but hey DLSS3?

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

There's no VRAM limitation, that's just AMD propaganda

[@tomasferenc9800]

@@Gay-is-_-trash bro, 12gb vram is not enough

[@matteominuto230]

​@@Gay-is-_-trash Uhh no? Multiple games can use more Tha 12gb already, it's only a matter of time. People said not to worry about the 3070's 8gb and look at what's going on now

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

@@matteominuto230 On ultra settings they do.. Just don't use ultra settings, even high is more than enough and uses a lot less vram

[@matteominuto230]

@@Gay-is-_-trash right. Because I want to be lowering my settings much earlier than I should be because nvidia cheaped out on vram. Look at re4: to fit in the vram the game has to look severely worse (you're basically forced to use 1gb textures if you want to use rt) for no good reason, since the card would have the power to process ultra textures just fine. Especially when asking more than the past 70 series card, nvidia should at least be offering a product that can keep performing really good for a while

[@craigjamroz7585]

Might get a 40 series when the 60 series come out 😂 lol

[@spenserdeardorff2737]

My dude seriously called a $600 card a "budget card".

[@TalesOfWar]

Sadly it is, in the current climate.

[@johnathanera5863]

And he is right. Unfortunately.

[@DmnkRocks]

I'm gona hold on to my "temporary" 2060 I got cheap on Amazon's EVGA clearance to replaced my dying 1080 I initially wanted to replace with a 3080 before the scalping started maybe... just maybe we'll get better pricing with the 50 Series (who am I kidding....)

[@donald55482]

Lmao, are you me? The 12gb 2060 right? I also "upgraded" from a 1080. I still have that build and like it a lot. If you're looking for 3080 performance, or maybe a bit more, I did a new build with the 6950xt I got for $700, and they're still getting cheaper too.

[@Isa_7511]

People will always have negative things about any graphics card, i bought and not a disappointment

[@vinyfiny]

I know AIB's want to make interesting looking chonky coolers to justify charging you more than MSRP, but I'd also pay more than MSRP for a smaller (ITX) card. I wouldn't be surprised if the 4070 could be cooled with a single heatsink fan setup.

[@vinyfiny]

@@rangerkayla8824 That's larger than the FE though, I want something SMALLER than the FE, haha.

[@vinyfiny]

@@rangerkayla8824 There were a couple of single fan 3060 Ti's and the 4070 has basically the same power draw (maybe even slightly lower). The PCB is super short so it's definitely doable, just need some manufacturer to do it.

[@WayStedYou]

hope the katana model gets released again in 4070 after the price gets dropped 100 dollars.

[@kink7075]

Jake is definitely a car guy. Plays cyberpunk and does donuts right off the bat hahhahahahahaha

[@QuackZack]

I got an epic price suggestion for the 4070. Put a dot between the 7 and 0. Boom 407.0 USD. How about that, NVidia?

[@Infinity_Ghost]

So We're normalizing 60 series cards as 70s now huh? and for 600 MSRP? Meaning that I'll have to pay at least 75 - 125 more in my country. Wow such a budget card I love it

[@Neoxon619]

So if the 4070 TI was billed as the 4080 12 GB originally, I wonder what the 4070 would’ve been.

[@LuckyHit87]

4080 12gb ended up being the 4070 Ti I believe. Not sure if it would have affected this 4070 card or not.

[@josephgreve5101]

The 4070 Ti was billed as the 4080 12GB originally. The current 4070 would have either just been the 4070, or potentially the 4070 Ti.

[@Neoxon619]

@@LuckyHit87 That’swhat I meant, sorry for the typo.

[@korndud]

these prices are CRIMINAL. like, gpu executives should be charged for gouging kind of criminal.

[@disadadi8958]

Asus let me down with GTX 970 and RTX 3060ti both having fan bearings die within like 2 years (obviously less than that with the 3060ti) and I changed to MSI for my current card. They used to be nice but I don't know what happened.

[@Kirbydreaming]

@@rige1646 I thought asus should be fine.. What will be the best 4070, any ideas?

[@MrNikelborg]

4:04 "which is really nice to see on a BUDGET card like this!" Budget my arse!

[@cermmi202]

4070 budget card, hah good one! Even if that was just slip up because it was mentioned just once, I felt really bitter.

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

70 series was never budget .. Why do people all of the sudden want to label a premium product as "budget class" just look at the numbers .. 70 is highend, 60 is midrange, 50 is budget

[@matteominuto230]

​​@@Gay-is-_-trash because going from 350-400 to 600 dollars (50% price increase) in a single generation is noteworthy?

[@T.K.9]

599 usd, affordable. My wallet: The hell you say?!

[@XxxRedDevilxX]

On that same level with my Rx 6800xt for $465. AMD is love, AMD is life.

[@baoquoc3710]

Until intel threatens to dip the AMD marketshare even more. No kidding.

[@crackajacka87]

The 6800 xt also consumes more power at 300w so a third more than the 4070 and will ultimately cost you more in the long run. Living poor all my life I understand the concept of the poor tax which is where you can buy items cheap upfront but will often break sooner and require you to buy again than if you buy more expensive items that last much longer and so in the long run you save more money and AMD's cards, compared to the 4000 series, have the same issue.

[@lilithstenhouse267]

@@crackajacka87 100w more means £0.40 more per 10h full load gaming at current UK energy prices. Suppose you game for 2h a day, times 7 days a week, 365 days a year... And that's only an extra £30 per year. You'd have to hold onto the card for five years to match the price difference using those figures.

[@crackajacka87]

@@lilithstenhouse267 Im currently unemployed and even when I was employed, I play games a LOT so it does make a hell of a difference for me. Currently my electricity costs me 0.43p per KW and the average power consumption of the 4070 is 186w so if I play 8 hours a day minimum, that's about 65p a day, a 6950 xt is probably around 320w average (it tops out at 335w and usually averages are 10-15w lower) so times that by 8 and that will cost me over £1 per day... It's essentially double. My current electricity bill per day, if not accounting for heating water, is just over £2 with my PC making most of that bill. I'm currently on a 1060 6GB card that runs on average 116w so it costs me like 40p per 8 hours of gaming so the 6950 xt costs me 250% more than my current card while the 4070 costs me just about 55% more and it all adds up. In my current state, the 6950 xt will cost me like £30 a month to run (if I play everyday 8 hours per day) while the 4070 will cost me about £20. That's a £10 difference so that's £120 extra costs per year just to run it. But lets say I get a job (in this current market its hard but we can dream) and I play at most, 4/5 hours on my work nights, 5 nights a week and 10 hours on my days off and calculate the hours altogether, thats 160 hours over a 4 week period and it would cost me £22 per 4 weeks with the 6950 xt while the 4070 clocks in at £12.77 per 4 weeks so that comes up as £264 per year (give or take as I'm calculating a month as 4 weeks which is 28 days) for the 6950 xt while the 4070 costs £153.24 so that puts me about £110 cheaper a year to run. Granted, I might not be playing games every single day for such periods but no matter how you slice it, the 6950 xt will cost me almost double in energy costs than the 4070. I've done this math multiple times and the results are all the same... The only time it doesn't show much difference is if energy costs half what it does today but I doubt we'll ever see the prices we had in 2021 when it was about 20p/KW and I doubt we'll see any meaningful change to be cheaper this year so I'm not going to factor it in as I'm looking to buy next month and I will use what I currently know and currently expect in this market.

[@keonxd8918]

Literally can't find one brand new anymore.

[@IVsLI]

"Budget" "NVIDIA Ada Lovelace architecture" spot all the words he HAS to say xD

[@I_am_ENSanity]

*Looks at my 6800xt and 6750xt* Nah.....I'm good.

[@abd5139]

Nice « Budget » card

[@dayulPH]

Wild how they wouldn't really recommend this card but do a sponsored video for it, business is business.

[@deathmalice256]

Recently got the dual version. Upgraded from my Strix 2070 (bought it 2019). I was so surprised the 4070 was about 3 inches shorter, allowing me to mount my AIO in the front of my case. Loving it so far!

[@Lebon19]

If only I could afford replacing my GPU every 2 years...

[@Cool_Goose]

It has two coolers. Even Jake is trying to milk a dead cow :D

[@anthonywong7004]

Got a Dual 4070, has audible coil whine in the P300A case. It's fine for me and your mileage may vary but just keep in mind.

[@umbles7007]

Thank you, I've been looking people's personal experience with specific AIB cards

[@Elinzar]

coil whine at this price point? man unless you have closed backs headphones is very noticeable and annoying

[@JayzBeerz]

the dual and the dual OC are the same price W T F?

[@antwoneb.9829]

The Asus dual 3070 use to come with 2 HDMI & 3 displayports they removed an HDMI. They removed an HDMI on these

[@Gay-is-_-trash]

Ppl are mad at Nvidia for raising prices.. The prices are the same, but Biden caused inflation to go up this much

[@snaz388]

Just purchased the dual 4070 OC white version and although I’ve heard mixed reviews about ASUS I’m just grateful to have these cards tbh I prolly won’t upgrade for awhile bc it just won’t make financial sense to

[@Blademind1]

I have the same card, do you have coil whine?

[@AstroAvenger]

That power efficiency is just insane, gonna wait for the 16gb version/refresh tho

[@waferbarr]

Bro said 16gb refresh LMFAOO

[@Xenoray1]

​@@waferbarr 5080 16gb for only 699 bucks in two years calling it 😂 meanwhile amd with 32gb vram in the same leauge 🎉

[@Xenoray1]

they refresh is already out and its called rx 6800xt 😊

[@waferbarr]

@@Xenoray1 699? After what they did with 20 series to 30 series? Sadly I doubt it

[@AstroAvenger]

@@waferbarr Sorry for expecting 16gb for $600, I mean the 3060 has 12gb at $300, WILD expectations...

[@Wimmle]

Budget GPU right.......

[@michaelrichard9122]

The fact that it's only an 8 pin makes me happy.

[@arvind240]

Jake unboxing a graphics card. Also Jake: there is a graphics card in here

[@cokienomster8450]

Still rocking 1070 and probably gonna change to team Red soon. Nvidia pricing is crazy. Hope for more competition and better prices for the customers...

[@Teh-Penguin]

Look at the used market. Great deals from both teams there.

[@nyregrus]

Y'all put AMD on a pedestal but you won't buy from them. Their GPU market share is like an embarrasing 15%. Money talks.

[@Teh-Penguin]

@@nyregrus What pedestal? Who do you mean with "Y'all". I mention both brands on the used market and truth be told: if not for Ray Tracing, nVidia would lose a lot of its current edge.

[@nyregrus]

@@Teh-Penguin Everyone on the internet talking about how they're gonna buy AMD over Nvidia, yet it provably is untrue. Just talk.

[@Teh-Penguin]

@@nyregrus I mean, I the 15-20% market share does not come from nothing.

[@tony3760758956]

I've got a 2 fan 4070, it doesn't get particularly hot. Why would I want more cooling?

[@bingliu2932]

I’m expecting a 4090 cooler on a 4030 or even 4010

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Linus: I will not upgrade this generation to fight the price gouging. Also Linus' company: Get this $700 graphics card.

[@pendulum1997]

The efficiency of these cards is so good are these coolers necessary ?

[@zeeskes2502]

To keep it cool

[@SleepyFen]

The big one? Probably not. Seems like bad value compared to the small one.

[@madness1931]

You can find 4070s, that have two slots, with one fan. I probably wouldn't go lower than that. The 4070 seems perfect for that Dual version, even for overclocking. That 3 fan variant just seems stupid, though.

[@sategllib2191]

Runs quieter and would last longer, if it wasn't for the tiny vram

[@lucastornado9496]

You are out of your *MIND* if you think $600 dollars is f*cking budget. You can find WHOLE COMPUTERS WITH 3000 CARDS FOR THAT PRICE.

[@fredsorre6605]

or you could get an RX6900XT or RX6950XT for roughly the same price and get better performance on non RT and get more VRAM which would make the GPU last longer.

[@drdaddy777]

Don't say that or you will summon the wattage police

[@fredsorre6605]

@@drdaddy777 the Wattage police will cry their crocodile tears when 12GB becomes barely usable in a year or two most people knew better as soon as the PS5 and Xbox Series X was announced to have 16GB of VRAM on them it's the same issue we had when the PS4 came out and all of sudden many new PC ports needed more than 4GB of VRAM to be able to use max settings.

[@drdaddy777]

@@fredsorre6605 for real lol

[@the1observer]

**Asus has deposited $20,000.00 into your bank account**

[@falagarius]

I wonder if the smaller one will even be on the market much. Asus and others love to have 9000 different SKUs but you can only find the premium ones in stock.

[@michaelgalliano]

I love how people are complaining about the price. Near 3080 performance at 200w for $599 isn’t that bad. These days everything is more expensive, my average grocery bills went up $200-$300/month. I could care less about paying $100 more for something I’ll use for 3-5 years.

[@Swrlz]

The new set is super cool!

[@gabrielg490]

These giant 3 fan cards with 100 tons of copper are getting exhausting. They really need to introduce new cooling technologies.