Sketchy but I still want one - Sipeed NanoKVM

[@whackywheels5920]

They jacked the price up since you featured it

[@someitguy2175]

As they should

[@emijade]

@@someitguy2175 nah, capitalism never wins™

[@kevomeister]

​@@emijadewithout capitalism this wouldn't exist.

[@someitguy2175]

@@emijade ask Sipeed

[@GiliceJani]

Wrong link, check their official site.

[@9Blu]

Guess the sellers thought it was a steal too. It's $150 on that link in the description now.

[@DragonKingGaav]

Poop!

[@arhamzarif6313]

better to buy a pikvm now.

[@Dubzer]

you can still buy it for $30 from the other seller

[@Rundik]

​@@DubzerNot anymore

[@superslammer]

Yeah if you google sipeed you'll find it cheaper from their aliexpress store. I found it for about 40usd.

[@orlagh277]

I think that's the first time on an LTT channel someone mentioned linux iso's and actually meant linux iso's lmao.

[@efad3215]

Maybe Emily did lol

[@Amplifimusic]

@@imadam *Emily

[@efad3215]

@@imadam Did I stutter?

[@James-nu6rq]

d-...did you edit it to say linux iso's twice?

[@Pegaroo_]

​@@James-nu6rqwhen people say "linux ISOs" they don't normally mean actual Linux ISOs, they mean different kinds of files that they have on their home media servers that they obtained in a totally legit way

[@homehome4822]

😂 bait and switch 60$ just turned into 150$ plus 17$ shiiped

[@BenPi_Tech]

They linked to a reseller AliExpress store, the official Sipeed store still sells it at the original price.

[@jester1983]

That's a price increase, not a bait and switch.

[@homehome4822]

@@jester1983 over 100% increase is ridiculous.

[@emma70707]

​@@homehome4822, appropriate if they now have limited inventory. People who really value it can still buy it versus keeping it low and just totally selling out. They can restock after the demand surge does down and lower prices. It's not food; this isn't gouging of a necessity in a crisis. Nor is it bait and switch... That would be if they (not a third party just randomly covering it) advertise a $60 product but then make it impossible to buy that version and push you to buy a more expensive version. Actual examples of this would be US tax filing services spending advertising "free" filing on TV and Internet ads but then making that nearly impossible to find on their websites and tell you you need to pay after you've spent 90 min entering numbers or car companies advertising the price of their introductory model vehicles but then only manufacturing a few hundred for the entire country so dealers (who also advertise the intro price) only carry the upgraded, more expensive models and only disclose this after you've spent time looking around. Simply increasing the price of a product when there is more demand is not bait and switch if they never advertised the price themselves...

[@gabbieblue]

thats for a pack of five, but they did increase the price yeah

[@SaperPl1]

Yep, and it already costs 150 USD in the link from aliexpress...

[@u1f98a]

or you can just search 'nanokvm' and find ones still for $30

[@antonio32a]

Looks like their link is wrong somehow, their github links to the correct one which shows as 38 euros for me.

[@weiSane]

@@antonio32anope price seems to have increased suddenly. I just checked. Or some of us are clicking on wrong search results

[@julianeulderink6172]

@@antonio32a but sold out.... 34 + 8 eur shipping for me

[@zickzir2240]

yeah its the link people say, sipeeds website has a 2-4 week pre order, the lite is $25+$2 + shipping (America is $10 shipping) the full one is $50 + $3 + shipping.

[@mcwillzz23]

For those looking into PiKVM - I think the cheapest you can do it is around 40USD... Pi Zero 2 W ($15 Micro Center) + GPIO header ($1 Ali Express) + CSI-2 to HDMI bundled with Pi KVM io board ($24 Ali Express). No breadboard/soldering and no case... but if you have a 3D printer there's tons of STL files for a Pi Zero 2 W PiKVM PCIe bracket case!

[@garekmulick484]

Did this go from 30 to 150 after they sold out in moments?

[@damian007567]

no, they just linked a reseller instead of the offical one. Edit: (Because it seems like the offical aliexpress stores doesn't sell to the us?)

[@zickzir2240]

its the link people say, sipeeds website has a 2-4 week pre order, the lite is $25+$2 + shipping (America is $10 shipping) the full one is $50 + $3 + shipping.

[@mikes78]

@@zickzir2240 At least the wait time is reasonable now. I ordered mine over two (or possibly even three) months ago and it only arrived a week and a bit ago now.

[@Peter-i7y1q]

I love this sysop content. Would like to see more

[@Drakoman07]

@@zickzir2240 idk, their taobao listing has the cost as 9999 yuan, which makes me think they're just out of stock and don't want to sell any more at this moment.

[@CRCinAU]

@ShortCircuit - Please check the link - it is NOT the official seller. The reseller you linked to seems to be taking the piss....

[@brainlessdude]

For anyone wondering: Jake says in the beginning that you can use the Lite Version with Jumper Wires and the GPIO Pins to power/reset remotely. That is not the case. Only the Full Version with the ATX Power daughterboard is able to do that.

[@S3anyBoy]

The official site still has a higeher price (but not as high as some comments are saying). Official preorder for the Full one is $50 USD (+3$ "commission" and +$10 shipping to America/Europe/Australia)

[@detoowang]

$150 now. It feels like they exploited LTT for clickbait 😂

[@damian007567]

they just linked a reseller instead of the offical ali store.

[@zickzir2240]

its the link people say, sipeeds website has a 2-4 week pre order, the lite is $25+$2 + shipping (America is $10 shipping) the full one is $50 + $3 + shipping.

[@conorstewart2214]

Not at all. LTT for some reason linked to a random other reseller rather than the manufacturers own store where it is still the original price.

[@justinseans]

Why don't they look at the product before they "review" it? They just say random stuff and then are like, "Oh no, never mind, sorry, I have no idea what I'm talking about because I didn't prepare for my job in any way."

[@strmbrkr77]

Backed the JetKVM on Kickstarter just yesterday. Much cleaner than this. And comparably priced. YMMV with Kickstarter projects but the ones I've backed have always fulfilled.

[@michelkeus9557]

Could be nice to do a comparison of a few on ShortCircuit. And unlike this one: The firmware is already open source.

[@notcat56]

I want this for work from home scenarios. I'm just gonna use it to remote into my work computer so I can play games while waiting for shit to finish downloading/compiling/whatever and tab in and out. This seems way more reliable than rdp.

[@axilleas]

Do you really want a closed source device from China (or anywhere, really, these days) to have full control of your PC, though?

[@Palmolive360]

Was thinking the same thing...

[@CRCinAU]

Better throw away your TV, most of your network technology, your wifi gear, your modem and most other things then...

[@conorstewart2214]

They also sell a dev board with the same processor and you can program this one yourself too, so there is nothing stopping people from buying this and flashing it with their own firmware. They also say that they will open source it in mid October.

[@rtsjsfgn]

Versus closed source devices from your own government? You’re never going to china

[@bdavbdavbdavbdav]

@@CRCinAUnone of those devices have access to anything I hugely care about if you operate by the “never trust the wire” principle

[@emil.steiner]

from the link on their github it's still the price you mentioned, but with a note of no shipping to USA and Russia. is this why you put in a link from a different seller?

[@DanKaschel]

I think that's wrong bc I just bought from Ali and I'm in the US. I did see the note you're talking about though.

[@zickzir2240]

on sipeed's website it says pre order and are of shipping is china, asia, euope/america/australia, other areas

[@JoshuaBurgess]

Coming from the Atmega128 dev boards, and hearing him say "its only got three cores" had me rolling.

[@OstJoker]

For 150$ + shipping for this thing....just buy Intel motherboard based on QXXX series chipset and get Intel AMT (vPro) native IP KVM.

[@zickzir2240]

its the link people say, sipeeds website has a 2-4 week pre order, the lite is $25+$2 + shipping (America is $10 shipping) the full one is $50 + $3 + shipping.

[@geogmz8277]

It's now $167 plus 17 of shipping... So hard pass 😂

[@BusAlexey]

It's the usual phenomenon of "youtuber releases video - thing goes out of stock for a bit due to demand"

[@u1f98a]

or you can just search 'nanokvm' and find ones still for $30

[@mrmarecki1]

There's another vendor still selling them for $30/60.

[@damian007567]

they just linked a reseller instead of the offical ali store.

[@zickzir2240]

its the link people say, sipeeds website has a 2-4 week pre order, the lite is $25+$2 + shipping (America is $10 shipping) the full one is $50 + $3 + shipping.

[@z1xus]

to say i was shocked when i saw 165 eur on ali is an understatement edit: looks like the link is a reseller, in related items category you can see the official sipeed store with the kvm full going for 68 eur

[@conorstewart2214]

I have no idea why LTT linked a reseller rather than the official store but it has probably done quite a bit of reputations damage and out people off of buying it since a lot of people now think that Sipeed jacked up the price.

[@noth606]

@@conorstewart2214 For all we know they did jack the price up, the thumbnail claims it to be $30. Either way someone screwed the pooch. I thought about it for a bit and went with OEM pricier solution since logically if they got the price wrong by 60% they might very well have everything else just as wrong.

[@zeekjones1]

Back in the days of dialup, I had used a software KVM, between my school laptop and house desktop, it was an encrypted mouse and keyboard server, and for power used wake on LAN. I remember the display could be mirrored, it definitely wasn't 60fps, but I generally had both at the same desk and didn't need it. Don't remember the name, but it was a surprisingly lightweight server for the technology at the time. _(pre-Core2Duo)_

[@sussudio]

You mentioned that Tailscale is running on it. Is there a way to put just the SBC on my network for the Taillscale feature, and ignore the KVM/HDMI aspect altogether? I want a tiny Tailscale node on my parents' network to help with remote support. Can I buy the SBC alone without the other stuff? Raspberry Pi and other SBC's that can run Tailscale are not this cheap or small.

[@BagusHanindhito]

Make it POE-powered, then it is perfect :)

[@bjarnenilsson80]

I'm no expert, but wouldn't that make it more exspensive, dosn't beo enebled stuff need to be certified by some patent pool?

[@gabbieblue]

stop youre making me want to design a better one

[@peterhindes56]

It is Poe powered… on the one with the box and full kit. Maybe read the docs lmao

[@troycording]

@@peterhindes56 I have one, it's not PoE, they do have PoE listed in the specs under "Expansion Accessories" thought, so that must be coming.

[@chunnin33]

​@@bjarnenilsson80 Likely held by cisco I guess

[@EoRdE6]

I like the bit where you fully skipped hooking it up so I have no idea whats happening on the laptop

[@StuffJason437]

They also sell a ' Lite Edition' that costs way less & without sdcard/sys img but allows you to have even smaller KVM for £23.69!!.

[@SmartLifeEnthusiast]

Have you seen the JetKVM Jeff Geerling is promoting?

[@Guardian_Arias]

As an electrician a Solid State Relay controlled via an ESP32 did the job nicely, along with the BIOS set to turn on after power loss.

[@conorstewart2214]

Oh wow really? So this SSR and ESP32 you built can act as a keyboard and mouse too as well as broadcasting video over the internet? Is it even able to provide remote access to the bios like this can?

[@Guardian_Arias]

@@conorstewart2214 No, I can only remotely cycle power, but because I have the server auto boot up upon mains power being lost, it has never failed to cycle back onto a good state. Once powered on, I can then remotely access the server normally. A more critical failure where the computer is stuck in a boot loop would require a hands on fix anyways and being able to access the BIOS remotely would just help in T/S before getting home but not fix it. At least in my limited sample size.

[@frank9363]

I love this kind of content, but it's a shame I don't know more about it. I'm starting school for computer science but would it be possible for you guys to put together some resources for a comprehensive learning catalog to help people learn more about system administration, networking, or like this KVM stuff? All the stuff you guys do with network switches and remoting in is so cool. Thanks.

[@eltamarindo]

If you bought this product, I would suggest that you test the jumper wires / dupont wires with a magnet and that you do not use the included wires if they are magnetic. The Dupont Wires that I got are strongly magnetic, suggesting that they are iron instead of copper or aluminum.

[@mikes78]

I bought one of the lite ones as a pre-release around three months ago and it arrived last week. I've not set mine up yet as I've been planning on doing something similar to what Wendel is doing and have been figuring out 3d print mounts so I can integrate this cleanly. But still it's good to see a mainstream channel mess around with it. Hopefully mine is set up not too far into the future.

[@christopherwomack5596]

4:22 watch that cat pic be like the coconut jpeg from tf2: you remove it, and it bricks the system lol

[@enzo.albornoz]

I bought one of these. It's so helpful for handling my homelab!

[@chelseajupiter2103]

Crazy that no effort has been made to address the discrepancy between the linked price and the stated price in the video.

[@conorstewart2214]

They linked to a resellers page for some reason, so it is essentially a scalper. On the official page it is still reasonably priced. Here in the UK I can buy the full one for £47.39 excluding VAT and shipping and the lite version is only £23.69.

[@Marc_Fuchs_1985]

Yo LTT - I still want this awesome blue light you have in the background there! It is a custom ShortCircuit item, isn't it? Will it be available in the store at some point? And whoever wants to point this out: No it is NOT one of those commonly known hexagonal modular lights you see in videos. This here looks a lot different and a lot nicer. Which is why I want this.

[@bharathraj2296]

Enable wake on power in motherboard bios setting and then plug the smps to a smart power plug. This will enable you to switch on/off from anywhere in the world

[@malcolmr8348]

Wouldnt hdmi splitting between the monitor and the graphics card be needed? Ultimately if the screen is on a source already without mirror mode enabled your not going to see the source

[@ivan.kulagin]

I think I’m fine with my RPi hooked to the front IO pins with jump wires

[@EdwardBowden1]

Worth saying with the nano you can't connect the pins directly to a power switch. You need to use a solid state relay or optoisolator and a resistor. I made up some cables pretty easily to do it but it's not quite as simple.

[@JakeTheBeast4Prez]

Hey, it's Jake! AKA Canadian Tech Caleb Hammer.

[@CRCinAU]

I ordered 5 of these as a bundle when they were in pre-order. They've just hit import customs in my country now. I gotta admit - it was something I've been wanting for a VERY long time, but commercial KVMs for 2-4 ports are $$$$. At $219 USD for 5, it was a no-brainer to go for... It'd cost more for me to print a case, pin out the additional options, install my own screen if I wanted to etc etc....

[@sebastien79a]

The Adderlink iPep uses power from VGA+2 USB-A and this has significant issues with servers and bootup service/power so the extra power is useful (iPep has it too)

[@Airbag888]

Finally got it and must say it just works really nice. obviously some tiny lag - you're not going to play any fps with it but very decent. Hoping the firmware gets sorted soon, for now it sits on my local network only with no internet access

[@congthanhtruong89]

just as i am searched for the kvm to turn on/off my homelab, other than the pikvm. you can also buy it from the taobao, it's nowhere near the $150usd that people are complaining about, but also not as low as the $30 price tag(400RMB ~ around $60)

[@marcogenovesi8570]

$30 is for naked board without case

[@congthanhtruong89]

@@marcogenovesi8570 yeah, but it also seems to be out of stock even within china, lol

[@friedrich1277]

Shouldnt it be possible to connect the 12V standby power from the PC to an internally placed NanoKVM lite to avoid problems if USB power is turned off?

[@coolspot18]

I'm still surprised none of these have been commercialized - or the long time KVM vendors offering lower cost solutions.

[@quintinfertig89]

If anybody wants a cheaper option for just powering on and off your PC for a desktop (some laptops too?), purchase the kasa smart plugs, and change your PC to power recovery state in the BIOS. After this once you and toggle on and off the smart switch from your phone it essentially acts as a power button. You can get a four pack of these regularly for about 30 bucks.

[@JLRejsing10]

the exact second he said "case your computer freezes" my router crashed

[@BibleProphecyMadeClear]

I've been waiting for this my whole life!

[@allenmcclure6017]

I am Left wonder about the name KVM is Keyboard, Video, Mouse and its lets you connect 2 or more computers to the same Monitor, Keyboard and mouse on them.

[@jvepps]

So is this a direct link to China? Deff wait for opensource firmware

[@damian007567]

do you own a router by ani chance? Btw chances are high that it has binary blobs from big evil china. Not saying i like it, but it's kinda hypocritical

[@conorstewart2214]

Apparently they will release opensource firmware in October.

[@haroh]

There’s no copy paste text function sadly which is important when managing servers remotely. Still sticking with PiKVM until they implement that feature.

[@BadMax02_VR]

prices are back down, the jacked prices are just other sellers taking advantage of the storm of ppl trying to buy one

[@nkennell42]

Jake: "a little bit cleaner way to do it instead of having to run jumper cables." Also Jake: "Oh look jumper cables those are useful!" 😂😂

[@wright96d]

9:28 Ah, are these the fabled linux ISOs talked about on the WAN show?

[@MikkoRantalainen]

Once you check out much iKVM/IMPI 2.0 support costs in official server boards, this makes a lot of sense.

[@TheOgres3DForge]

Can't seem to find a first party seller any more for this product. LTT, if this product is what is claims, this seems like a great thing to partner and get on your site once they fix the bugs.

[@TheCuttz1984]

Did I hear correct. Does the larger one allow me to access the bios from the remote PC

[@Quantowski]

That's a fantastic keyloger you got there

[@Jdbye]

Might get one of these. I looked at the PiKVM but it's very expensive especially considering it's powered by a low cost Raspberry Pi. My home server doesn't have a display hooked up so it's kind of a pain when I need to troubleshoot.

[@kuromad]

They should include a header connector so you can use one of the usb ports in your case to pass through the power button thingy. You likely won't need it for actual USB in a server-device and this way you don't have to pass a cable from inside your case. And if I were the developers, I would also make a version that can toggle the mains power off and on, for systems that don't have regular motherboard headers for power and such (like nucs).

[@ivanmalinovski7807]

That's exactly what they do on the full version.

[@dustojnikhummer]

Im definitely getting one ad soon as the firmware is open source and considered save.

[@alshazlymohamed2144]

I'm CS student and I really interesting in stuff like this but I didn't knows much about it, so I hope if there a littler more introduction info about it. Thanx.

[@raynlaze1339]

Okay maybe im dumb but I dont understand the functionality of this. Whats the difference of just pressing the power of/on on the pc and pressing the button on that device.. that is right next to that pc? If it were somewhere on a whole different location i would understand, but now they are right next to each other no?

[@ilenastarbreeze4978]

thats kind of the point, if your remote you can turn it on, or if its a server with no display in a closet somewhere ect

[@raynlaze1339]

@@ilenastarbreeze4978 alright then i get it

[@marcogenovesi8570]

yes it is for remote PC that you cannot push the button without travelling

[@staberas]

the point of this device is REMOTE CONTROL

[@walterbkeen]

Amazed people are still considering this even with the hard coded backdoor!!!! Your getting more than a cheap KVM people...

[@Lilithe]

I like the owlbear(?) & wolf shirt you got going on

[@ElSendler]

I noticed that too. I think they are Scratch and the owlbear cub from BG3.

[@talisbatten6035]

Would like to see another video where you hook it up to multiple computers and see how it does. Because it's a really interesting concept product.

[@LuigiGuevara]

The other day, I bought a JetKVM hope is fine and easy to use.

[@Dorff_Meister]

That's pretty cool, but given I need these things so infrequently, I think I'll just stick to my PiKVM (which I think is absolutely awesome, every time I use it). But they both look considerable other that the glaring issues you pointed out. Maybe someone will make an open source one using the the RP2040W or if the RP2350 + wifi.

[@aravjain]

actually..... I built a PiKVM for just $80 (you can easily go much, much cheaper, mine is slightly overkill)... and mine's just 33% more $$ than the NanoKVM Full

[@gabbieblue]

when the price goes back down and its properly distributed, and with open source firmware i will buy so many the idea is perfect

[@robertbslee4209]

Buy from the brand and not reseller linked in the video

[@gabbieblue]

@@robertbslee4209 i checked the link from the brands website, the were the same iirc, though theyve probably changed again by now

[@ArtemisKitty]

It's a low wattage USB power supply. Just drop a cheap power brick in-line with the power USB cable and there you go. Battery backup for when the PC is off.

[@frank7131989]

Does anyone know if the performance on something like this is better than sunshine and moonlight?

[@NFTwizardz]

Lmfao 1.5x and background audio i thought it was DAN! LOL

[@Tampsey]

I didnt really understand what the usecase for it is

[@loocool2]

Level1Techs featured this and it went oos for a while, and now you guys feature it too ;-; I'm never going to be able to get my hands on one

[@Innuya]

What is the bird and dog shirt jake is wearing 8:00

[@olahistvan1]

Baldur’S Gate 3 Best Friends T-Shirt

[@Innuya]

@@olahistvan1 thank you!

[@TyGreggVideos]

Do you have a recommendation for a 4K KVM over ethernet switch....!

[@sandordugalin8951]

If they release a 2K res version, I'll be on this thing like stink on a platypus.

[@N0sfuratu]

Spinning circle is called Throbber, there is a pirate software short on it.

[@zerazara]

PiKVM is not expensive. You dump it on a RasPi4, connect a HDMI-in module to it, then take a USB cable and cut off the DC power wire, and your done

[@denvera1g1]

Honestly, Wendel's solution seems like something i'd want for home use. i really REALLY want a 24 port USB-C KVM for enterprise laptops and micro desktops with a 1500w PSU for power delivery and an internal gigabit switch with 10g uplink(though 1G would be fine) Checkout laptops are my nightmare, they need to be windows, they cant be on the domain, they have to use a shared admin account, which means i have to wipe them before i can send them back out often more than once a semester. Covid made me hate my job, i spend more time on these 50 checkout laptops than i did managing the 1200 desktops and laptops pre-covid. I've resorted to finding a few good USB-C dock conected to my 32 port iKVM and using those to image and set them up but it is such a rats nest with all the wires needed.

[@magnustangen6269]

Its back to 30$ chill folks

[@KevinJohn556]

I wonder what embedded in the cat picture

[@alepouna]

To anyone saying the price jacked up: It HASNT. On the AliExpress listing, EVEN from their website, it's still 30euro and around 65e for the bigger one. The price has NOT gone up there, YET.

[@Kris2340k]

60 euro now Sad

[@alepouna]

its still 30 lol

[@VTT]

Or buy a smart plug and set your bios to turn on with power on. And you can turn on your computer with your phone or voice assistant.

[@holycaketree]

Okay now at 150$ its stupid expensive for what it is. But 30 also seemed way to low because i just bought a single hdmi to csi thing for 30€

[@conorstewart2214]

The $150 is essentially scalper pricing, those are resellers, the official store has not jacked the price up but apparently they may not ship to the US right now according to other comments. Right now in the UK I could order the lite version for £28.42 and the full version for £56.87 including VAT but not including shipping from their official store.

[@4_Science]

Maybe review TinyPilot next? You can roll your own or buy a Voyager from them

[@AnimeRoot]

I do wonder how secure these little devices are, and you shared my same findings. Not very safe to use until they open the source. Do not put these on the web or use them in your enterprise.

[@darrenfalconer3267]

Tinkering type: $30 - 60 Normy and wants it to work: pikvm but it's expensive. Raritin kvm enters the room. Now that shits expensive.

[@derBerg]

the important thing is: can it do Home Assistant Integration?

[@lumpyren]

Problem is this is for a local network only. zero cloud access and they have no real security so you can not expose it to the internet safely. Only use it over a VPN into the target network.

[@HengTengYiakaRandumbPerson2003]

Love the thumbnail

[@Pinky-plays]

"if it freezes or something" *video buffers* usually never buffers i went back to see it it was edited just odd timing ;-;

[@rjsmith2007]

How is the web UI / app on a phone? Everything still work?

[@locopaco44]

That's exactly what i was looking for

[@Heat2234]

Takes like 2 months to get to you but love it.

[@MultiBannanaSHITTTT]

Yeah, this will totally not be backdoored!

[@Stealth86651]

I just hardwire serial ports to every electronic I own, just as god intended

[@marcogenovesi8570]

you are gonna need pretty long cables

[@devoosdude9809]

will it work with mac mini?

[@deskgoblin6822]

can i use this to do wake-on-wan?