You’re probably buying these. - Sony WF-1000XM5

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@ShortCircuit
@ShortCircuit Жыл бұрын
Heads up! If you're considering buying this product, it may be prudent to investigate some of the battery issues that have plagued the previous generation. Sony's handling of that situation could have implications for XM5 customers as well. ---- What do you think of these new earbuds from Sony? What wireless earbuds are you using? Let us know below! Buy Sony WF-1000XM5 Wireless Earbuds: geni.us/SPd6kj Buy Apple AirPods Pro: geni.us/oe9ikv Buy Bose QuietComfort Earbuds II: geni.us/i49ag Purchases made through some store links may provide some compensation to Linus Media Group.
@AhmadAli-ws3vy
@AhmadAli-ws3vy Жыл бұрын
sony xm4 are having battery issues, not recommended, and i know its review of xm5. who knows if its fixed.
@aaakmm1785
@aaakmm1785 Жыл бұрын
A huge problem with Sony WF earbuds is foam eartips. They degrade with time and need to be replaced. Depending on the use case they need to be replaced every 3 to 12 months. But Sony make it almost impossible to buy original Sony eartips at a reasonable prices. They are hard to find and when found cost about 40-50 dollars for a single pair of eartips. That is ridiculous. Even Apple original eartips for Pro 2 are reasonably priced and readily available to buy. That is why Sony users don't even bother with original eartips. They just use some random eartips from Amazon with unknown properties.
@THISLOVETHISHATE99
@THISLOVETHISHATE99 Жыл бұрын
bro sony is engaging in consumer fraud with these earbuds because they are substituting the 3.85v battery with 3.7v batterys guaranteeing battery failures and reduced capacity because they failed to correct the firmware for these lower voltage batts secretly extending the warranty Louis Rossmann has made a video before the release of this video
@Hxarh
@Hxarh Жыл бұрын
The Jabra Elite 10's look much better to me. Please review those next. As an owner of XM4 and the Jabra 85t, the Jabra have much more comfort, have a nicer sound to my ears (I'm not an audiophile, but I am a professional musician) phisical buttons are superior to touch sensors. The control scheme is better. The only thing xm4 had going for them is better ANC. I haven't tried these but I really would look at the Jabra before buying these
@locutusuk68
@locutusuk68 Жыл бұрын
@@AhmadAli-ws3vy Mine had a battery issue last month, I preordered them so had them from release day, I sent them back and Sony fixed them for free.
@mdccxv
@mdccxv Жыл бұрын
Louis Rossmann just dropped a good piece on previous sony earbuds issues and how sony treats customers who have them, worth watching before you buy them
@_Azur
@_Azur Жыл бұрын
Oh really? I have some problem with the last update and indeed the customer support is bad
@jublington
@jublington Жыл бұрын
Idk I had the thing with the xm4s where one earbud died almost twice as fast as the other and customer support sent me a new pair for free, havent watched the video but I personally haven't had a bad experience with Sony customer support
@blurcak
@blurcak Жыл бұрын
Yeah i started watching LR and got notification SC :)
@theman4426
@theman4426 Жыл бұрын
Sony has been doing a great job from what I've heard, replacing even those that aren't still in warranty
@nv1573
@nv1573 Жыл бұрын
I have the xm3 for over 3 years. 0 issues, I dropped them from over 30 feet multiple times and not a scratch. So yeah, experiences may vary
@smallbutdeadly931
@smallbutdeadly931 Жыл бұрын
This video is right above the video from Louis Rossman talking about how Sony was putting the wrong batteries in the MX4, and that they would run out quick overheat due to charging at the wrong voltages. Sometimes, the batteries are different in even each earbud!
@StaceyAyodele
@StaceyAyodele Жыл бұрын
1000% I had both videos recommended as well. Don't buy these at all.
@michixinqq
@michixinqq Жыл бұрын
I noticed that straight up. Both videos released at the same time, close to each other
@hezu_vt
@hezu_vt Жыл бұрын
The algorithm suggested these two videos to me, too. KZbin's finally doing a good job
@user-de1xi2uf8d
@user-de1xi2uf8d Жыл бұрын
I laughed when I saw both videos in my recommendations, only separated by one other video
@justion337
@justion337 Жыл бұрын
I tried xm4s for a bit and they stuck out a bit too far and had sharpish edges that made wearing them while sleeping against a pillow painful. Otherwise I really liked them.
@michaeltyers7336
@michaeltyers7336 Жыл бұрын
XM4 had an issue on a firmware version which caused right ear to drain heaps faster than left rear. After firmware update my right earbud still only charges to about 90%
@hulkamania5071
@hulkamania5071 Жыл бұрын
mine was the opposite, left only stays powered for like 1 minute now and the right can last about 15 minutes
@onix331
@onix331 Жыл бұрын
This. Just got mine back from RMA, both sides got replaced
@joaovguedes
@joaovguedes Жыл бұрын
​ @TheTekknician google search wf-1000xm4 battery drain or issues. Just because you did not have the issue does not mean it does not exist.
@HopeRises
@HopeRises Жыл бұрын
My main problem ith XM4 is this. The right one always charges up to 88% and left one to 95%. It's really weird. i tried resetting both of them and fixed the issue for 2 days. After that the problem returned.
@djsmeguk
@djsmeguk Жыл бұрын
Yeah my xm4s are basically garbage because the battery lasts about 10 minutes on the left bud now. Out of warranty sadly. Bad firmware definitely broke them.
@direfulkhakijaguar7306
@direfulkhakijaguar7306 Жыл бұрын
I got the MX4, love them, and fortunately I managed to get them repaired just days before the warranty expired. Hearing all the stories of repair refusal, I would not recommend buying any Sony product anytime soon until there's a commitment for better customer support. For the price it's inexcusable
@RobBrody2999
@RobBrody2999 Жыл бұрын
I had issues with the ambient sound mode on mine. One of them just gave a feeling of being underwater. Anywho Sony replaced mine no questions asked and extended my warranty by a month.
@direfulkhakijaguar7306
@direfulkhakijaguar7306 Жыл бұрын
@@RobBrody2999 as they should. The main issue, besides the earbuds issues, is the lack of consistency with their customer support. It feels like the Asus faulty motherboards handling all over again
@fat_smeagol4811
@fat_smeagol4811 Жыл бұрын
@@RobBrody2999 hell this is happening to me. I've placed them with customer support 3 times already, I had no idea it was a general problem
@your_average_cultured_dude
@your_average_cultured_dude Жыл бұрын
yeah if you want good sony audio get their mid to high end wired IEMs. a lot more reliable than wireless.
@direfulkhakijaguar7306
@direfulkhakijaguar7306 Жыл бұрын
@@your_average_cultured_dude so far the MX4 have been very reliable, excluding the battery draining issue
@Rockmaster867
@Rockmaster867 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the more simple charts. Also that James walks us through in a slower pace. Thanks guys. Keep up the good work and never stop innovating!
@ZBKN
@ZBKN Жыл бұрын
Be wary, the predecessor is plagued with battery issues with some reports of that happening with the WF-XM5's as well. I returned these for several reasons: The ANC heavily relies on the passive noise isolation, which means if you can't get a good seal with the tips, the ANC performance will be subpar. I could not achieve a proper seal without hurting my ears. Running with these with ANC on is annoying because there is an audible plop with each stride (same as XM4s).
@midnightwolf3134
@midnightwolf3134 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard a pop with the XM4. Might just be really shitty luck.
@Jefafa73
@Jefafa73 Жыл бұрын
@@midnightwolf3134 I think the "pop" is referring to the buds kind of float in your ear and ONLY rely on the tip size to stay on. Meaning every stride you take the earbud bumps against your ear and the sound is VERY noticeable. I can confirm this is 100% an issue and hardly ever mentioned in reviews. I tested These XM5's against the Bose QC2 and Galaxy buds 2 pro. I really wanted these to win, but ultimately went with the QC2's for the NC, fit, and tighter sound. The default sound is the worst on the QC's, but the bass is noticeably tighter and I can eq any of them. You can't eq tight bass no matter how hard you try.
@midnightwolf3134
@midnightwolf3134 Жыл бұрын
@@Jefafa73 Can't say I've experienced this though I do know the XM4s were rather big earbuds and I have bigger ears so they fit perfectly in my ears. Even if it's just the tip sitting in there. I guess we can say your mileage may vary.
@Jefafa73
@Jefafa73 Жыл бұрын
@@midnightwolf3134 I've heard that from other XM4 users as well! I kinda wished I tried the XM4's along with the other buds as that popping didn't sound like an issue with the older pairs.
@EugeneManugas
@EugeneManugas Жыл бұрын
@@Jefafa73 i can confirm the pop can be annoying when walking and even more so when jogging. and yes, anc relies heavily on the foam tips which disintegrate within a month of regular use. i am now using moondrop spring tips with reduced anc
@leohanley5935
@leohanley5935 Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned every generation of the Sony wf series and the xm5 is definitely a step up, primarily in terms of form factor even compared to the xm4 it’s a huge step up in pocket feel
@123456789janak
@123456789janak 6 ай бұрын
Do they hurt the ears with long term use? And how do they work with running or gymming ?
@ZizoMass
@ZizoMass Жыл бұрын
Got my ones last week. I'm in love with it. I've never been a fan of intra-aural headphones, but this one proved to me that it's possible to use an in-ear headphone and still have exceptional audio quality!
@aidencates3553
@aidencates3553 9 ай бұрын
Iems (in ear moniters) are some of the best for sound quality you can get (besides real headphones) ranging anywere form 20$ all the way up to a few thousand dollars while most of thoes are wired but the sound quality makes up for it
@troyflatland5299
@troyflatland5299 Ай бұрын
Got my ones? Are you in preschool?
@NLaMesh
@NLaMesh Жыл бұрын
I am returning these as everyone I talk to complains about the bad mic quality when I take calls outside with the usual vehicle sounds. If the noise cancelling is on when you walk, you can hear the thud sound of the steps. I didn't buy the ANC buds to keep ANC off while I walk. But I must say the sound quality of these are really great.
@RechtschreibrichterReiner
@RechtschreibrichterReiner Жыл бұрын
But isn‘t bad mic quality a general problem on ture wireless headphones? All my friends have AirPods Pro and the soundquality is horrific too. When they walk by a street I cannot understand a word they say. Also the phone quality in general sounds like a 2G call with 1 bar of reception. The ANC issue must be annoying but was the mic quality that big of a deal for you?
@mortezamoryhajiha4452
@mortezamoryhajiha4452 Жыл бұрын
Sound quality of Huawei freebuds pro 2 are way better for clean base. I returned these due to low quality lows (when compared to the best), bad mics, and nasty ear tips. Not all mics suck btw, best mics I think are on the nothing earbuds (but no ldac). The freebuds pro 3 also have very good ones from a test I've seen (won't know for another 3 weeks when it arrives, but due to Chinese hype that one is now overpriced for at least the next 4 months.) , but freebuds pro 2 did not have great mics (it ironically does improve if you turn off their enhancement option).
@swlak516
@swlak516 Жыл бұрын
You are gonna hear yourself walk with any decent noise canceling earbuds, it’s just inherent in the design!
@NLaMesh
@NLaMesh Жыл бұрын
@@RechtschreibrichterReiner Yes, it was. Maybe it was a faulty unit. I couldn't talk to anyone without me being repeating every other word.
@NLaMesh
@NLaMesh Жыл бұрын
Here is my update. I returned the Sony back to Amazon. Bought a pair of Samsung Galaxy Buds2 Pro. So far, I haven't got any complaints from the other side. Also, I no longer hear my foot steps with and without ANC. Sound quality isn't as good as the Sony's and no LDAC. But, I'd say it's not bad as I thought for that price point.
@singgoli
@singgoli Жыл бұрын
from my experience, my XM4 battery issue started 3 months after warranty ends. But when i take it to sony repair center, they told me if the issue really is from defective battery they will replace the buds free of charge even outside warranty (make sure you have the purchase receipt)
@wafu6058
@wafu6058 Жыл бұрын
One of the biggest issues with the XM4 earphones were how bulky and heavy they were so this looks great.
@AshLordCurry
@AshLordCurry Жыл бұрын
They still are pretty bulky ngl, but they are amazing, the anc is out of this world. Sound quality is a bit better, didn't feel any huge improvement.
@AcuraAddicted
@AcuraAddicted Жыл бұрын
The biggest issue with the XM earphones is the Sony's screwup with the firmware that killed batteries in these earbuds (mine included, but affected thousands), which they are replacing quietly now.
@AhmadAli-ws3vy
@AhmadAli-ws3vy Жыл бұрын
they are having battery issues
@MrBrax
@MrBrax Жыл бұрын
@@AshLordCurry xm4 is awful, are these better?
@timestimesx7535
@timestimesx7535 Жыл бұрын
@@AhmadAli-ws3vy Mine doesn't. The Sennheiser CX I used to have had an unchangeable case.
@la3692
@la3692 Жыл бұрын
2:50 I noticed they were hard to get out, but all you have to do is push them slightly towards the outside and the magnet disconnects.
@RichardBrennan
@RichardBrennan Жыл бұрын
FYI - to remove them from the case you put your thumbs in the center of the case and then push them both outwards. It is in the instructions (which nobody reads).
@andreaszweili8593
@andreaszweili8593 Жыл бұрын
Would’ve been nice to see a comparison to the previous generation for reference. I don’t know the charts by heart. Especially since you guys aren’t using industry standard curves. In addition it would've been great to compare the thickness of the case as that is in my opinion the issue of the previous generation compared to the Airpods.
@juanledezma8907
@juanledezma8907 Жыл бұрын
They cant do a comparison because sony earbuds dont last the year before the batteries go bust…
@cadenmam3853
@cadenmam3853 Жыл бұрын
it's important to note that you didn't even try to tweak the equalizer which makes the listening experience about 5x better. Listening to the default preset does indeed sound flat and boring because that's what it's set to.
@scruffles87
@scruffles87 Жыл бұрын
Another issue moving from the XM4s to the XM5s is the noise cancelation is actually worse in some situations. The XM4s have an option for automatic wind noise cancelation that works beautifully. However the XM5s have a new design with a new microphone location Sony believes eliminates the need for such a mode. It is desperately needed if you're in a windy environment, trying to ride a bike with one earbud in is pretty much a lost cause
@Mr.RueBean
@Mr.RueBean Жыл бұрын
That’s what the AirPods do. They used to be really bad at cancelling wind but after an update it seems to do fairly well automatically. However I have had zero success with any earbuds riding a bike. Be it AirPods or XM4s. They are decent at cancelling wind when walking around but on a bike there’s zero chance. I’d probably say the MTW3s are the best for wind.
@lucian4631
@lucian4631 Жыл бұрын
As a user they are amazing. The sound is like from the XM3 (over the ear), but don't have that much of a spatial sound. The last to keep in mind is that they are big or should I say chunky (so people with small ears are a no no), but they are not heavy. Also, don't use them in the gym because of the sweat they fall out of my ear 100% of the time.
@kylerclarke2689
@kylerclarke2689 Жыл бұрын
I don't think I would spend more than $199 on any wireless bud, given that they live such short life spans. If the battery doesn't crap out first, some other thing will bug out.
@danidh
@danidh Жыл бұрын
I've had the Airpods Pro 1st gen since launch and the battery still lasts me a good 3-4 hours. Used them pretty much daily since I have them.
@ted9254
@ted9254 Жыл бұрын
I think $200+ for any pair of easy to lose earbuds is insane. The only way I can justify my airpods pro 2s is because a) I got them on discount, b) the ANC/passive does wonders for my sensory issues and c) I listen to music or podcasts for 6+ hours a day. I probably use my earbuds more than any other piece of tech I own including my phone itself. If the following are true for you I would say get whatever earbuds you want, but otherwise the Linkbuds S are cheap, comfortable, and always on sale. There are tons of good wired IEM options for under $75, too :)
@big-gloom
@big-gloom Жыл бұрын
​@@ted9254"Paying over 200$ for earbuds is insane! Anyway, heres why the 200$ earbuds I bought are great and worth the money."
@UndarkAido
@UndarkAido Жыл бұрын
Do these ones have the cool feature from the XM4s where they try to overcharge one of the earbuds permanently damaging the battery?
@AL-lh2ht
@AL-lh2ht Жыл бұрын
No
@LittlePlant888
@LittlePlant888 5 ай бұрын
I just got my xm4 earbuds back from repaired in less than 2 weeks. They replaced both earbuds. My right earbud drained in one hour while the left one worked properly and lasted 8 hours still. At first i regretted getting these, but since sony repaired them at no charge, I'm glad to have these working again.
@brothatwasepic
@brothatwasepic Жыл бұрын
Hi All. As a current XM5 earbud and headphone owner as well as Momentum Tw3 and a ton of other earbuda including Apple. The Xm5 works very very well with LDAC even when locked at 990Kbps. I'm not sure how they keep it to stable. It sounds excellent and is way more comfortable than my Xm4. The transparency mode is about 10% quieter/less real sounding than my wife's airpods pro 2 but it equals and often beats all of the flagship tw buds on all other points. I wish they would patch the transparency mode to be about 10% louder then they would be absolutely perfect. I have dropped them a few times and yes they pop out of the case if you drop them hard. But overall they are great.
@johnrogers6047
@johnrogers6047 6 ай бұрын
I just bought these some notes: They are tough to get out of the case, Noise cancelling isn't great the tozo x1 is better, and half the price I got these with free potable charger for 250 dollar's. Still very expensive. They aren't very comfortable laying down. They are ok for the gym but they don't cancel out all the noise which is annoying. Battery is fine They are light The app isn't great the custom ear identification doesn't really help or didn't for me. I like that the ear buds know when they are in your ear unlike the x1 Also the just randomly pause over and over and its very annoying Wireless charge is fine Overall 250 is to much for these
@Yama_1291
@Yama_1291 Жыл бұрын
Maybe I want to sleep on them, literally. You should keep testing side sleeper comfort! Linus covered it last time! That info would help me more than 10 frequency response curves. Just saying.
@Collin_J
@Collin_J Жыл бұрын
These specifically look way too wide, but I am generally looking for that info too!
@mygenericusername
@mygenericusername Жыл бұрын
I've had the XM5s for about a month now, and they are by far one of the buggiest pieces of tech I've ever owned. More than half the time I take them out of the case, one or both buds has an issue connecting and they stay in transparency mode (as if only one bud is in). About half the time they do both manage to connect to whatever device I'm using, the EQ and software settings don't kick in and everything sounds terrible. It particularly struggles with multi-point, often randomly switching which device it feels like controlling or playing audio from, which does help keep things fresh and exciting. I have to keep sticking them in and out of the case until they work properly, and even when I do finally get them to work right, the right ear bud's battery drains significantly faster than the left (which I've seen is an issue on previous generations too). Even worse is that while the ergonomic design of the buds makes them incredibly comfortable in your ears, it makes them equally as awkward to handle when you're not wearing them. Because they're shaped to fit your ears (and not the case), and there're no tactile feedback when you pop the buds in the case, you never feel confident both buds are actually in right. More than once I've put them in after a full night of charging only to get a "low battery" warning because one or both were a microscopic fraction of an inch off the contact pads. I feel like a lot of the issues I'm having can be ironed out through firmware updates, but others (like the charging issue) are inherent design flaws which can only be addressed by hardware revisions, but I would not recommend them to anyone as is. Wait for Sony to fix the firmware issues, but also look at other options.
@Fangzs
@Fangzs 9 ай бұрын
Are you using a iphone with these buds?
@abubakrakram6208
@abubakrakram6208 Жыл бұрын
The irony of the fact that this video came out only an hour after Rossman made his video about why you should never buy Sony air buds…
@AL-lh2ht
@AL-lh2ht Жыл бұрын
Except they are really good and people experiences are different then from the hit piece video.
@joaovguedes
@joaovguedes Жыл бұрын
​ @AL-lh2ht "if it did not happen to me, it is not true", you are defending a company that is treating the consumer of a high end product like crap. Refusing to fix a problem they caused with a firmware update. This is why they keep doing this, because people accept it.
@akrico
@akrico Жыл бұрын
​@@joaovguedes The left one of my MX4 started draining battery so fast (depletes when right one are still at 80%) and Amazon refunded all I paid 21 months ago (bc out of stock) so now i'm planing to buy the MX5. Guess they broke them just in time to make me a favour.
@scorpiodevil08
@scorpiodevil08 Жыл бұрын
I'd pay far more attention to Rossman's article than this.
@WisteriaBerlitz
@WisteriaBerlitz Жыл бұрын
@@AL-lh2ht it'd be a hit piece if it's a selected few, but from what I've seen many are affected. A friend of mine managed to get their 1st XM4 exchanged, but his 2nd unit has battery drain as well
@zsoca26
@zsoca26 Жыл бұрын
Personally I would not, recommend. I tried it and the controls are finicky, have some connectivity issues, the foam eartips are not the most confortable, and have some problem with the fit as well depending on your ear shape. I think the link buds s is a better choice, or fanky anything else for 250 it has too many drawbacks, just get anything else or an airpod pro 2 the usb c variant is out :)
@waldamy
@waldamy Жыл бұрын
Having purchased Sony Linkbuds about 9 months ago, I have recently faced an issue with the right bud - it became much quieter (2-3 times as it feels) than the left one. After sending them for repair to Sony, I got them back in about 2 weeks. Apparently in the service center they have replaced the right earbud, and now I have buds from different pairs which can't work together (case gives error code with 3 orange flashes) - you can't even connect/pair them to your phone anymore. Resetting the buds doesn't help in this case, so I sent them back again. Two weeks later, I'm gonna pick them up tomorrow and see if Sony managed to fix the buds this time. But yeah, Sony's repair services don't seem that good when it comes to other models as well.
@Just_a_commenter
@Just_a_commenter Жыл бұрын
I'm starting to keep an eye out for some replacement ear buds, so this could be neat. The right ear bud of my Galaxy buds 2 died abruptly (got 'em free anyways) and my old Galaxy buds are showing their age in battery life, so maybe it's time to try Sony.
@ChristopherBurtraw
@ChristopherBurtraw Жыл бұрын
Dont.
@selachian
@selachian Жыл бұрын
"Not loud enough"? Where did that come from? You must have done something really wrong; I have never ever been even close to maxing the volume on any of my WF headphones Maybe if somebody had extremely severe hearing damage
@ImmortalInflames
@ImmortalInflames Жыл бұрын
I own a pair of the original Sony WF-1000X wireless earbuds, got them on sale and it was an instant love! A good couple years later they dropped out of my pocket (my fault..) and I ran them over in my car (a big station wagon) and they actually survived!! To be fair it was on grass & the case was dinged & didn't shut quite right after that.. but they went on work with no issue! I was initially worried they would stop working, so I ordered a pair of the WF-1000XM3's which I started wearing after a couple months & still wear them daily even now! I hope a battery replacement is possible as they are so comfy & sound so good, I really don't care to upgrade...
@TheLTcousins
@TheLTcousins Жыл бұрын
i also have the XM4s, i like the others have the battery drain issue in the right ear, the battery would go from 100% to closing without notice in 40 minutes, i bought 2 pairs for me and my father and both have developed the same symptoms at the same time (we had them for a year and a few months) so i know it wasn't my fault, its strictly that the battery shelf life is very bad, i have requested repair and was denied, they offered to give us "refurbished" ones or the money back. I have opted to pay a difference and get the XM5, lets see how these hold up over time.....
@Supershlickity
@Supershlickity 5 ай бұрын
How’s it been so far
@TheLTcousins
@TheLTcousins 5 ай бұрын
@Supershlickity i noticed only once that the XM5 were 20% R and 80% L battery but cant tell for sure since it could have been user error. Since its been only 8 months i cant tell for sure. To be honest they dont seem like an improvement over the XM4, one big downgrade for me is the fact that now you cant activate/deactivate wind noise suppression, on the xm4 i was able to ride my bike and have noise cancelling without the wind noise and now on the XM5 its no longer possibile, you van hear significant windnoise. I dont think i will be buying Sony and in ear again despite the good audio quality. In ear headphones have hearing related problems since they bypass the sound baffles of your ear canals.
@Supershlickity
@Supershlickity 5 ай бұрын
@@TheLTcousins as for the noise cancellation itself as well as the sound quality are they an improvement from the xm4s? Similar?
@TheLTcousins
@TheLTcousins 5 ай бұрын
@@Supershlickity yes, they are better than XM4s, both sound quality and noise cancelling
@greylawson6352
@greylawson6352 Жыл бұрын
Man with the new charts Id love to see the Airpods Pro 2nd gen revisited. Especially with the new features like Conversation Awareness and Adaptive Audio
@SpunkyGo0se
@SpunkyGo0se Жыл бұрын
Yeah the new AirPod features are killer! ANC was amazing but having it be seamless is next level.
@frykauf
@frykauf Жыл бұрын
I feel that particular firmware update that brought those features actually also notably improved the ANC, finally. Its the first improvement, rather fix or degradation to ANC strength since the launch
@Alepap.
@Alepap. Жыл бұрын
10:06 Yeah a discrepancy from LTT preference curve, this means nothing on it's own.
@ColinRowlands
@ColinRowlands Жыл бұрын
I tried the XM4's for a while, but found them so uncomfortable and difficult to get a good seal to ensure the anc worked properly that I ended up sending them back before my return window had closed, so luckily I avoided all the battery issues that others are reporting in these comments. As far as the 360 audio, didn't it actually come out before apple's version?
@nooneeey
@nooneeey Жыл бұрын
May I ask which buds you switched them for? I love the sound of them but they too are extremely uncomfortable in my ears.
@ColinRowlands
@ColinRowlands Жыл бұрын
​@@nooneeeyI work long shifts so swap between two pairs, Jabra elite 10 (upgraded from 5) and the Anker soundcore liberty 4.
@autotitslinger
@autotitslinger 4 ай бұрын
Fyi, you can make v shape sound with the integrated equalizer. Clear bass, DSEE extreme, and Ldac make a huge difference as well.
@shiba7651
@shiba7651 Жыл бұрын
Hey, could you add a harman curve or something like that to the frequency response charts? That way we can compare it to something more familiar, as most people wouldn't know what the lmg target is all about
@Wlz-23
@Wlz-23 Жыл бұрын
LTT needs to compare transparency modes cause honestly ANC has gotten to a point where it's not going to be terrible on any pair of buds. However the transparency mode can range from Apple's basically true enough to the real world sound passthrough...to others. It was this combination of BOTH ANC and Transparency mode that made me -an android user with a S22U- buy a pair of airpods. They are just the best all round even without the ecosystem perks. Edit: spelling
@FinneasJedidiah
@FinneasJedidiah Жыл бұрын
This isn't 100% on topic, but the Pixel Buds Pro have really good transparency mode. The ANC isn't as good as Airpods Pro, but I can honestly not realize I have them in when the ambient mode is turned on.
@gabriellebenard5254
@gabriellebenard5254 11 ай бұрын
i bought these last week. the sound is SOOOO good. Not vibing with the sound tracking like at the gym i always had to put it back to noise canceling, might be a way to fix this IDK.
@bryanlinsday9173
@bryanlinsday9173 Жыл бұрын
Listening to this on XM5's, after having XM4's the weight makes such a difference. No matter the bud my ears would hurt after a few consistent days at work using them. Also, if I hardly need to touch an equalizer to get the sound I want then they've done their job perfectly. If you can afford it, they are superb.
@tj3827
@tj3827 Жыл бұрын
10:40 "You have to get used to a more neutral sound" ... Or you use the custom EQ in the app?!
@tunirroy940
@tunirroy940 Жыл бұрын
XM4 mic quality bombed so hard. It was so bad in any semi nosiy environment like an office, so bad so that I had to stop using it for office calls. Lets hope that the XM5 mic quality is better this time around. The sample shared in the video is still in a relatively quiet environment so I am really skeptical to its real world performance.
@cristianmoore1996
@cristianmoore1996 Жыл бұрын
I have the XM4’s and they’re the best headphones I’ve ever had! I was disappointed they didn’t release the earbud version with the XM5 over ear headphones. I’m excited to get these!
@gabrielgagne2748
@gabrielgagne2748 11 ай бұрын
I have the xm4. I got the battery problem to manage. I am not impressed considering the cost and the brand name. Thanks for the comment in description about this issue.
@SteveRand
@SteveRand Жыл бұрын
2:30 That's the first thing I noticed in the video... they look cumbersome to get out of the case. These little details always seem to be overlooked in reviews. My current Jabra Elite 7 Pro's come in a case that I find nearly impossible to open even with two hands! i've glued a bit of foam on to aid with it but it makes dropping and potentially losing a bud very possible. Form over function again.
@DivinePonies
@DivinePonies Жыл бұрын
Funny to see this and Luis' video side by side in my subscriptions list.
@sarvjotbaxi9154
@sarvjotbaxi9154 4 ай бұрын
Would be nice if LLT had a host who has uses the last generation 1000xm4's for a comparison.
@taekwondosplit
@taekwondosplit Жыл бұрын
While presenting freqency charts, you can put other earphones too. And harmon target can also be dotted along with the in-house target.
@picassoimpaler3243
@picassoimpaler3243 5 ай бұрын
Little late to the party here, but I would LOVE IT if the labs would test more than just frequency response. I would personally prefer to see distortion measurements broken down by harmonic and THD, intermod distortion, and left vs right driver comparisons on all of these. Or at least put it up online if you guys don't wanna muddy up the video with all of these data points.
@ianchilds6433
@ianchilds6433 4 ай бұрын
Had the Bose QCII’s and absolutely hated them. Exchanged them for the Sony WF1000XM5’s and am liking the Sony’s more. The Bose were too touchy on the controls. I’d adjust them in my ear and the music would pause or skip at least 50% of the time. They also didn’t stay in my ears well even when I swapped inserts. Was super disappointed in the Bose. Final straw was 5 months after purchase the right earbud basically died. It was a whisper in volume compared to the left one and resetting and re-pairing the device didn’t help. This is why I always buy the 2 year coverage at Best Buy. Has saved me several times.
@Graghma
@Graghma Жыл бұрын
Once you use the buds for a while, they get extra slippery due to the gloss. It was not an issue right out of the box
@swlak516
@swlak516 Жыл бұрын
Haven’t had this issue and I’ve been using daily since they released
@castroh19
@castroh19 Жыл бұрын
I have XM3 for 3 years never an issue until recently. I charge the headphones to full or close to full charge. If I put them back in the case and they stay connected. Sometimes they auto connect to my devices while in the case. I have cleaned the headphones and case. I love these earbuds but I am done and not sure if I want to upgrade to the mx5.
@Gamelover22478
@Gamelover22478 Жыл бұрын
The battery on my x4 only last like 30 min on the left and 15 min on the right. Sucks the battery craps out so fast
@eugeneteo7320
@eugeneteo7320 Жыл бұрын
still love my xm3, just changed the battery and able to use for more years down the road 😏
@empoweredmonkies
@empoweredmonkies Жыл бұрын
Liatening to this with 1000XM3's. Still solid and battery still lasts for days
@krk357
@krk357 Ай бұрын
Great earbuds - one huge problem - the foam ear tips should be considered as "consumable" not as a spare part. Lifecycle of hygiene use is around 1-2m (need to be replaced quite often as they are fragile and practically impossible to clean). The cost of 1 piece is ~$10 and accessible via Sony service organization only (3rd parties are available but not as good). This makes those earbuds the best, but also the most expensive in-use piece of personal gear i owned.
@CodeF53
@CodeF53 Жыл бұрын
Why is the lmg target curve so bumpy at the high frequencies
@jobeall5078
@jobeall5078 Жыл бұрын
I loved my XM4s, but had an issue with them and tried to get them fixed under warranty. Sony just stole them and then ignored me any time I reached out afterwards. If not for that terrible experience I probably would have bought the XM5s no questions asked.
@SpeedfrkOne
@SpeedfrkOne Жыл бұрын
I only buy Sennheiser and no issues after all the years - own the momentum true wireless 3 / momentum 4 wireless amd Sennheiser allow you to use the momentum 4 with an analogue cable as well plus a 2 year warranty.
@prodbytaffy5542
@prodbytaffy5542 11 ай бұрын
i sent my xm4s for free repair out of warranty after experiencing the battery drain issue, received the xm5s instead and am so far very happy with them!
@lundsweden
@lundsweden 8 ай бұрын
I'm probably not. For me, Jabra are the most comfortable and have great build quality. I've just upgraded to Jabra's Elite 10, feels like I'm not wearing earbuds, and to my ears has a very detailed and polished sound profile.
@Joachimbj
@Joachimbj Жыл бұрын
I have the xm4. I would not buy the xm4, nor the xm5. The xm4 turns on pass-through during calls, and the pass-through is often louder than the person I'm talking to (and sometimes it also boosts the sound it's passing through - maybe in an attempt to make you shout without thinking about it). It also boosts the volume of the caller to a level where it can really hurt my ears in noisy environments. Great for listening to music - terrible for talking. Do not recommend them unless it's just for listening.
@Lawz1993
@Lawz1993 Жыл бұрын
My XM4 have the infamous battery problem. But this XM5 usage already pass my XM4 and yet no problem with the battery
@AcuraAddicted
@AcuraAddicted Жыл бұрын
What a coincidence! Louis Rossmann posted a video about the XM4 earbud battery issue (which I had) just before your video release.
@Gustavo_St
@Gustavo_St 8 ай бұрын
Please review the WM5 call quality using the latest 3.2.1 firmware. I noticed a very clear improvement. In my tests, it is now one of the best for calls in noisy places.
@viniciusfrj
@viniciusfrj Жыл бұрын
I saw these when I was shopping for some headphones, given how amazing the XM4s were, I could make a good guess on the quality of the XM5, buuuut they were way over my budget so I got the MTW3s from Sennheiser, no regrets here
@peterdevreter
@peterdevreter Жыл бұрын
I bought my xm4's last year for I believe was 180 euro's around black friday. I thought it was ridiculous expensive even at 2/3 of the price. But they are sweet. On the other hand the left one became dodgy but sony replaced it without any fuss.
@Mr.RueBean
@Mr.RueBean Жыл бұрын
The MTW3s are phenomenal but they are hideous and the case is huge. Also no transparency on phone calls. Everything else is arguably better than the XM4s tho
@viniciusfrj
@viniciusfrj Жыл бұрын
@@Mr.RueBean I don't think they are ugly in any capacity, but that is as subjective as it gets, the case is bigger than other phones but far from the biggest and it still fits comfortably in my pockets even when it has to share space with my phone or wallet so I'm also not bothered by it too much, sound quality is amazing as expected of Sennheiser and to me the only downside (and not even a big one) is the static noise you get when using transparency, which gets a lot better when you're actually talking to someone cause then it overpowers the static quite easily
@danedwards_ee
@danedwards_ee Жыл бұрын
I had the XM4's and had a terrible experience, there was a metallic tinging sound whenever I bit my teeth together or would hear for example linuses voice. Three pairs, all the same issue.
@invisi1407
@invisi1407 Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is SUPER annoying and it seems there is no solution to it - it's the ANC, if I recall correctly. I would love to know if that was fixed in the XM5s.
@danedwards_ee
@danedwards_ee Жыл бұрын
@@invisi1407 yup. I returned mine and am rocking AP Pros. No regrets.
@xeekk
@xeekk 2 ай бұрын
I've has the XM4s for a couple of years. Sony had to RMA after 1 year my first pair because the left bud wouldn't hold a charge, the second pair is now having rapid battery drain on the right bud. I'm done. It's sad because they know it's a problem, RMA'd my first pair a month out of warranty, and even sent me a brand new pair. They tried, but they didn't fix it.
@Slinkythecount
@Slinkythecount 10 ай бұрын
Whoa. This was my first time hearing the spatial audio in this video. Kind of glad I bought them.
@soupistasty5
@soupistasty5 Жыл бұрын
I don't know whether to hate James for having WAP as his low bass 'test track', or to love him for it?! 8:38
@nasce.pt.Design
@nasce.pt.Design Жыл бұрын
do they stay secure during workout? thank you
@Jyrgenstrator
@Jyrgenstrator Жыл бұрын
13:15 they didnt upscale drivers, they downsized them from XM4..
@_Azur
@_Azur Жыл бұрын
Last update they did ruined my xm4 so I don't know about that
@louiet475
@louiet475 Жыл бұрын
just returned mine... loved the sound over the app2 but... it doesnt exactly stay in my ear, tried all the tips and even bought 3rd part comply memory foam tips... these jsut refuse to work with me as much as i wanted them to.
@filip8461
@filip8461 Жыл бұрын
I was using XM4 and they were amazing but too bulky and too heavy. Then I switched to Galaxy Buds 2 Pro which ate btw the lightest earbuds I ever used to the point when Im forgetting I have them on. I'm considering now to buy either XM5 or Pixel Buds Pro (since I have Pixel Watch and Pixel 7 Pro anyways)
@naunau311
@naunau311 Жыл бұрын
Honestly given the sound quality the galaxy buds 2 pro provide, I wouldn't switch if I were you, you're not going to get anything better (for sound quality at least) unless you're willilng to drop some serious money on earbuds.
@anthonyargueta131
@anthonyargueta131 Жыл бұрын
the buds 2 pro are perfectly good and i dont think u should upgrade unless u use multiple devices from different software's like a Samsung phone and a Macbook for the multi-point connection. The multi- point connection is also more fluid then the sometimes janky seamless connection Samsung has. Maybe only grab these if its on a heavy discount
@filip8461
@filip8461 Жыл бұрын
@@naunau311 yes they have great sound quality, but their built quality is horrible. After only 3 months of usage and touching my right bud for music co controls entire coating wore off and it's literally like glue, cannot touch it without horrible feeling never happened to any other buds I have used in the past.
@filip8461
@filip8461 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonyargueta131 I agree, but as I replied to the other comment their built quality is horrible. My right bud after only 3 months is usage and touching it for music controls looks like it's chewed out, it's coating visibly wore off and it's like a glue. Never happened to any other buds that I have used.
@Earthcrosser
@Earthcrosser 8 ай бұрын
XM4 has the same problem. It's so hard to get the earbuds out of the case. I purchased the WH-1000XM5 instead. Bulkier but better sounding.
@SlightlySaici
@SlightlySaici Жыл бұрын
I own the XM4, unfortunately my eartips fell apart within WEEKS and I haven't found a way to order a genuine sony replacement.
@RayPaganJr
@RayPaganJr 11 ай бұрын
I had the XM4 and forgot that I paid a lot of money for them. They ended up being tossed into the garbage after not using them for a month or so, because when I resumed using them, they would be 100% then drop to 20% in five minutes. They just no longer charged right. I just purchased Soundcore Aerofit Pro for around the house. They’re fine. I’d like to buy these for the gym, but don’t trust Sony after my last experience. I have the Bose SoundSport Free, but hate the way they pop out of my ear, like some type of colored tumor. So still on the lookout.
@BoyceBailey
@BoyceBailey Жыл бұрын
I got to try them both in a very noisy environment. The 1000XM5 sound better, Bose QuietComfort II had better noise cancelling. annoying choice tbh.
@blizsgarage8487
@blizsgarage8487 11 ай бұрын
Yes I am an owner of the XM4 and the right ear bud does not charge to 100%. I like the sound of them. Do I dare buy the XM5, battery issue fixed?
@WonPXL
@WonPXL Жыл бұрын
Was there a comparison chart of ANC between the XM4 and XM5?
@AniMerci
@AniMerci 14 күн бұрын
My right earbud pops out constantly, so waterproof is useful if it flies I to the sink or worse. I would never exercise with these. After several generations of Bose earbuds and a pair of Samsung, these rank low due to this instability.
@Mildly_Irreverant
@Mildly_Irreverant 4 ай бұрын
I cannot speak highly enough of these earbuds. They are bloody fantastic!! I am truly picky with my sound and owned multiple pairs of true wirelsss earbuds previously (including the BOSE and Jabra flagships) but these knock them out of the park - got them for $339AUD which here in Australia is a great price. 🎉✅🙌🏆👏
@gnite6
@gnite6 Жыл бұрын
Been using these XM5 for about a month now and other than being ridiculously expensive, I have to say I do like them. Great sound, great ANC and isolation, great comfort and battery life. The downsides are that they're a bit finicky to get a proper seal in my ears, takes a while of fiddling around (but once they're in there, they stay in place), also they are a little tricky to get out of the case, and, at least with the large tips, they don't snap back in as nicely and easily as all the other buds I have used so far. Overall I'm happy with them, but think they should be a bit less expensive.
@invisi1407
@invisi1407 Жыл бұрын
If you have the XM5s, can you tell if they suffer from the "metallic pinging" sound when biting your teeth together using ANC as the XM4s suffered from?
@gnite6
@gnite6 Жыл бұрын
@@invisi1407 I don't get anything like that with the XM5s. I don't recall getting that with the XM4s either, but I only had them briefly before returning them due to them being uncomfortable for me. I also found that I can still eat an apple while listening to something on the XM5s and hear well enough, something that was an issue with my LG FN7 I had before.
@invisi1407
@invisi1407 Жыл бұрын
@@gnite6 thanks a lot! I'm tempted to get the XM5s to see if that alleviates that issue.
@Kenji-Tsuyoi
@Kenji-Tsuyoi 9 ай бұрын
not after the battery issue on my XM4 with one dying in 30 mins after software update due to wrong voltage battery installed by Sony . They were amazing ear buds for sound , noise cancelation etc but left a sour taste Sony wont repair or replace them when they sold an known faulty product with 3.75 voltage battery in instead of 3.85 due to cost saving using old battery surplus
@victorozurumba2300
@victorozurumba2300 Жыл бұрын
2:31 that's what she said
@martiezboy
@martiezboy Жыл бұрын
my warranty replacement xm4's are shitting out on me and I'm wondering if these new xm5's are really worth upgrading too. I have a pixel so not considering airpod pros, is there anything else that is better than the sonys?
@Mr.RueBean
@Mr.RueBean Жыл бұрын
Honestly look into the Sennheiser MTW3. They have gone down in price. My only problem is no option for transparency mode on a phone call. You’re forced to ANC. They are also ugly, and the case is huge. But they are arguably better for music and I think ~$200 now.
@printsignalsoma1248
@printsignalsoma1248 Жыл бұрын
like my xm4 a lot more the xm3. xm3s would always fall out even with different after market ear tips. Haven't experienced the battery issues being discussed. but noise canceling can have weird reverb effects around hand held power tools that I never encountered with the xm3
@keefahh
@keefahh Жыл бұрын
So gutted I recently bought the XM4s but I'm pretty happy with them overall
@johnshackleton323
@johnshackleton323 Жыл бұрын
Use a mirror and please make sure that you insert the buds into your ears correctly. Am I the only person who noticed that it appears as though you inserted the left (your left) bud in correctly, but the one on the right was inserted completely off kilter. That explains why the tap commands weren't working properly. Look carefully, I'm not talking BS. Have a look at 05:12.
@Suction_
@Suction_ Жыл бұрын
I really wanted to buy these, but after prior experiences with Sony's shite customer support and Louis Rossman's piece from an hour ago. I think these are a pass from me
@okey5
@okey5 Жыл бұрын
I have xm4 and even the smallest eartips makes my ears hurt after using them for about 30 minutes, if these tips are even smaller then maybe they’ll be better for some people
@SaltyAntelope63
@SaltyAntelope63 Жыл бұрын
My xm4s lasted almost 3 years and then the batteries suddenly gave out, can barely go 30 min. But buggest prob is the ANC worked great until an undate and after that they were never the samw again. Nervous to try xm5s
@evolution5052
@evolution5052 5 ай бұрын
Please answer my question I can't/won't use spatial audio/head tracking and wireless charging...and those nodding gestures.... So now , which one should I get ? Link buds s @ (100$) Xm5 @ (200$) I already have Sony xb901n (200$)
@NxtReaper
@NxtReaper Жыл бұрын
I wonder if these will die in 13 months too? (yea I saw Louis' video also)
@Idontwantanat
@Idontwantanat Жыл бұрын
Owned the previous generation, had issues, at least in my country sony only has affiliate repair shops but no actual sony costumer service place, and only one near me can actually offers repairs for earphones, to their credit, they were nice, but after almost a month, they returned me the same device,no real changes made, so, of course, the issues persisted. Mainly battery drainage and one bud sounded way quieter than the other, sent it back for repair, gotta wait another month before i can check if it was properly repaired this time, if not idk what else to do. It’s an utter waste of money. When i bought the firt gen Airpods pro my pair was affected by that firmware update issue and they replaced it immediately, sadly,the battery has naturally degraded over 3 years. This is the result of headphone jacks being removed, because of the batteries needed to run these, tws will always need to be replaced.
@sero3826
@sero3826 Жыл бұрын
Yeah i have these i went from Galaxy Buds original ones, but i am a bit disappointed i am running a galaxy note 20 ultra, but the headphones keep loosing connection to the phone when the phone is in the pocket it keeps dropping it and causing glitching in the sound. Not very impressed by them, the audio quality is a big step up from the buds but the audio cancellation isn't to be fair. And to get that good bas sound you have to have the noise cancelling activated otherwise it just sounds weak. And it my ears no matter what i use of those XS, M, or L isn't the best fit and they want to fall out from my ears when i outside running. And all the extra nanny's ain't worth to fiddling with they just mess around with the buds making them weird. So yeah i am a bit disappointed with them considering how many are praising them. Still better then my buds but not for the price they ask for them.
@hexfromtex
@hexfromtex 11 ай бұрын
I just bought them today and want to return them already... right off the back I was disappointed at highest volume they are super low sounding. Returning ASAP
@Hobbies_n_Travels
@Hobbies_n_Travels Жыл бұрын
When testing the ANC performance was transparency mode on/off? After 500Hz there was mention of the ANC being off? I’m assuming that was just a way of saying they were no longer effective (but still technically “on”)? Interesting that there were several areas after 500Hz where the ANC was “louder” than ANC off (2k, 4k, >10k). I wonder if that was because of the hissing sound they present. Thanks for the video!
@TubbyJ420
@TubbyJ420 Жыл бұрын
wf xb or bust. i'm addicted to bass. currently have the wf-xb700 and skullcandy crusher evos.
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