Shotgun (1970s)

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Nuclear Vault

Nuclear Vault

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@edbecka233
@edbecka233 Жыл бұрын
For everybody mentioning slings - In that era, there were no commonly available sling-mounting hardware kits for pump shotguns. The Uncle Mike's kit that requires drilling & tapping a hole in the magazine cap didn't come out til a few years later, there were no barrel band mounts, and no single-point mounts of the type that sandwich between the stock and the receiver. Plus, most shotguns were not privately owned by the officers but "fleet" weapons issued by the agency, and the agencies were NOT gonna spend $$ on slings, mounts and training. Yes, slings require training. Walking around with a slung long gun is one thing; engaging in ground combatives with a slung long gun is something quite different. As to the buttstroke comment, having worked in IA, I can tell you that would be the beginning of a career-ending nightmare. One, the rubber pad on most patrol shotguns would have lessened the impact to the point of ineffectiveness, two, the public's concept of the buttstroke at that time involved the steel plate on a nine-pound Garand and a crushed skull.
@EchosTackyTiki
@EchosTackyTiki Жыл бұрын
If only Pasadena PD had sprung for slings to go on those shotguns.
@PYROBALLISTA
@PYROBALLISTA Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@scottbourke4428
@scottbourke4428 8 ай бұрын
Its a 38 police special... the length of the barrel has nothing to do with the size of the round! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Official_Police
@URProductions
@URProductions 7 ай бұрын
@@scottbourke4428A sling is a leather strap to carry the shotgun on your back when your not using it, freeing up your hands.
@scottbourke4428
@scottbourke4428 7 ай бұрын
@@URProductions What is this reply for? read my comment. @scottbourke4428 2 weeks ago Its a 38 police special... the length of the barrel has nothing to do with the size of the round!
@isaacfreeman8860
@isaacfreeman8860 3 ай бұрын
Because your comment isnt in the right spot. Youre mentioning round size under a fella who said it would have been wise to purchase a sling ​@scottbourke4428
@robertmiles9942
@robertmiles9942 Жыл бұрын
"Whatsa matter, can't you climb a fence?" Sick burn
@andrewcomments5812
@andrewcomments5812 Жыл бұрын
Officer turned around and looked like he was 2 seconds away from slapping that kid with his own skateboard. 😂
@provosttq2051
@provosttq2051 4 жыл бұрын
That pellet spread is the reason we've seen such a widespread switch to 5.56 carbines in recent years. They offer much better accuracy and control.
@chubbycatfish4573
@chubbycatfish4573 4 жыл бұрын
They should have used them back then or at least surplus M1 carbines since they were dirt cheap at the time.
@thomass4471
@thomass4471 3 жыл бұрын
Or it could be more and more crimnals are using automatic weapons as well.
@dylantyt6654
@dylantyt6654 2 жыл бұрын
You mean semi automatic rifles over shotguns... yes indeed
@craigwilkinson860
@craigwilkinson860 2 жыл бұрын
@@chubbycatfish4573 They did use M1 Carbines prior to the AR-15. Jim Cirillo mentioned it in his books. Specifically with semi jacketed soft tip rounds. The shotshells of today are much more controlled than prior. Shotguns are always a great tool at close range and why they have always been the standard long gun of police. Rifles have filled a niche the same way semi autos replaced revolvers. Police are dealing with ever changing threats and adapt to respond to both danger and the environment they operate in. I have always said a shotgun is often the best tool on patrol but when you need a rifle there is no substitute.
@hoppinggnomethe4154
@hoppinggnomethe4154 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomass4471 criminals rarely use automatic weapons. that's Hollywood bullshit. they romanticized few criminals back in like the 30s, the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, and the 90s
@hatuletoh
@hatuletoh 3 жыл бұрын
I love how the sgt narrator cop keeps brandishing his huge revolver. He refers to it as "a .38", but if it is, that's the biggest damn .38 I've ever seen.
@talisdorman.9796
@talisdorman.9796 3 жыл бұрын
Halelutoh.
@daveybass655
@daveybass655 2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious. It would be better, if the gun gets bigger, every time he brandishes it.
@spannaspinna
@spannaspinna 2 жыл бұрын
Borrowed callahans hand canon
@micahmarrietta2059
@micahmarrietta2059 2 жыл бұрын
I bet it was smooth like butter shooting
@Beuwen_The_Dragon
@Beuwen_The_Dragon 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like a model 28 or 27 in .357
@billtree52
@billtree52 Жыл бұрын
Can't help but wonder how many of these situations could've been resolved with a decent sling attached to the shotgun
@Nurse_Xochitl
@Nurse_Xochitl Жыл бұрын
TBH a slug. Or better yet just use the pistol.
@user-nc8qj2no3k
@user-nc8qj2no3k Жыл бұрын
What the fuck does a sling have to do with the pattern of a shotgun
@URProductions
@URProductions 7 ай бұрын
@@Nurse_Xochitl A sling a is a leather strap that goes around the back to carry the shotgun when not using it.
@Nurse_Xochitl
@Nurse_Xochitl 7 ай бұрын
@@URProductions I know what a sling is.
@allen_steel1236
@allen_steel1236 Жыл бұрын
The very beginning of this film is also a great time capsule showing the early days of emergency paramedicine, and the beginnings of the modern computer aided dispatch. Far too little footage exists showing the communication systems of the police and fire departments between the late 1950s and the early 1980s. When a lot of these systems were home built by the local two-way radio shops and the municipal radio shops. As a means to an end for something that didn't exist. In the first scene where the patients are treated by the Unseen medics, you even see a Motorola biophone, later that would be made famous on the television show rescue. Fairly useless radio at the time they seem like a good idea. But it was another 15 lb of equipment you had to carry to the scene.
@Suddenlyits1960
@Suddenlyits1960 Жыл бұрын
“You can whirl,fire,and blow the guy away”.
@commentatron
@commentatron Жыл бұрын
Yep, that was printed on the sides of squad cars right up to about 1964, when it was replaced by. "To Protect and Serve."
@topbreak38
@topbreak38 Жыл бұрын
I'm reading this in Billy Mays's voice.
@normanpotts3169
@normanpotts3169 Жыл бұрын
.Yeah, that's funny. You have to aim just like any other weapon.
@mr.butterworth
@mr.butterworth 4 жыл бұрын
Right gun, wrong freakin’ ammo. Pellet shells on a sidewalk? Come on maaan!
@osuna3525
@osuna3525 2 жыл бұрын
If they made a video about it, it must have happened LoL
@Neomalthusiano
@Neomalthusiano Жыл бұрын
Yeah, let's use a slug so only one innocent bystander gets hit (and die).
@Aaron_Barrett
@Aaron_Barrett Жыл бұрын
​@@Neomalthusiano not one
@1810jeff
@1810jeff Жыл бұрын
@@Neomalthusiano What's the logic behind this statement, if the slug hits it's intended target it's very unlikely to have enough energy to be seriously lethal after it's left the target. This is because lead slugs flatten very quickly and lose their already low speed quickly enough to not cause an overpenetration risk, now if it was a copper or brass slug that's a different story.
@Neomalthusiano
@Neomalthusiano Жыл бұрын
@@1810jeff as I understand, it's quite the opposite: slugs are almost sure to over penetrate a human body unless they are made of special soft lead. What you stated as an exception is actually the rule (even more since hard lead was more common at the time). By the way, the idea of the police carrying shotguns back in the day was exactly as a tool to hit barricaded criminals, suspects inside cars and eventually, according to the area, a wild rogue animal; all with the advantage of a long gun over a revolver. But then again, even if you dismiss my reply as misleading or inaccurate, you still need to hit the target and in a real life situation with bystanders on the arch of fire, like in this case, that's not trivial.
@Mattie1492
@Mattie1492 4 жыл бұрын
"Your only options are to hold onto the weapon, or put it back in the car." Or...give the perpetrator a hardwood sandwich...garnished with teeth.
@CH6P23
@CH6P23 4 жыл бұрын
Matt Angelucci well put
@FN_FAL_4_ever
@FN_FAL_4_ever 4 жыл бұрын
The good ol’ butt stroke, always the right attitude adjuster.
@donmcatee45
@donmcatee45 4 жыл бұрын
Rgr that
@jeandomeniconagereitano7016
@jeandomeniconagereitano7016 4 жыл бұрын
That's a good idea, especially if you're looking for a four weeks vacation without pay on account of a police brutality charge.
@byutube4360
@byutube4360 4 жыл бұрын
If only there was some kind of strap you could attach to it .........
@ryansnapfood3142
@ryansnapfood3142 Жыл бұрын
these old police videos are still very informative even to this day.
@TheBigMclargehuge
@TheBigMclargehuge Жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't they?
@1810jeff
@1810jeff Жыл бұрын
@@TheBigMclargehuge The newer ones sugar coat everything and are heavily dumbed down because the police force has been diluted by diversity hires and smarter cops tend to not stay as cops for very long.
@ClickClack_Bam
@ClickClack_Bam Жыл бұрын
That's because there's ZERO of today's bullshit in them. No forced diversity. No agenda pushing. No money grabbing or advertising. No DEI bullshit. No politics.
@CH6P23
@CH6P23 4 жыл бұрын
When the kid said “ can’t you climb the fence ?” I Thought the cop might give that kid a what for
@soposh5673
@soposh5673 3 жыл бұрын
Lol him being black made it all the likelier
@marine4lyfe85
@marine4lyfe85 2 жыл бұрын
The cop holding the shotgun in the parking lot obviously doesn't know what a horizontal butt stroke is.
@GD-tn3ez
@GD-tn3ez Жыл бұрын
I’m guessing he knows all about butt strokes.
@ecoterrorist
@ecoterrorist Жыл бұрын
I don't know what a horizontal butt stroke is and I don't want to find out
@stevek8829
@stevek8829 Жыл бұрын
As opposed to being familiar with the vertical butt stroke?
@Qaianna
@Qaianna Жыл бұрын
I'll admit the first thing I thought of when seeing the melee scuffle was that the shotgun officer should have used the blunt end to assist his partner. Except that friendly fire isn't just bullets, and a horizontal buttstroke (swing back end of gun horizontally at target's head) is hard to do when he's down and wrestling. And frowned upon when delivered, intentionally or not, to a brother or sister officer.
@normanpotts3169
@normanpotts3169 Жыл бұрын
That or screw it into the perp's ear.
@eriknervik9003
@eriknervik9003 2 жыл бұрын
It almost makes me wonder why cops in the 1970s didn’t carry the .35 Remington pump action rifle, or a .357 lever gun which could take .38 special. It would’ve provided accurate and reliable shooting platform.
@paullytle1904
@paullytle1904 2 жыл бұрын
The real answer would be an m1 caerbine
@giff427dg
@giff427dg 2 жыл бұрын
And same rounds for all
@Andrewsky347
@Andrewsky347 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure but maybe it was because lever actions don't feed as well with both .38 and .357, which would have been super important.
@eriknervik9003
@eriknervik9003 2 жыл бұрын
@@Andrewsky347 maybe so. But is still baffles me why cops weren’t issues rifles like the Remington Game Master or even a .30-30 If the officers responding to the North Hollywood Robbers had even pump action .35 Remington that incident would’ve ended very quickly. Plus I think those rifles would look less offensive to the public than ARs
@Andrewsky347
@Andrewsky347 2 жыл бұрын
@@eriknervik9003 I don't have any actual data, but I do think it was common for a lot of officers back in the day to have Winchester 1894s, M1 Carbines, Mini 14's, or Colt SP-1's.
@michaelwestmoreland2530
@michaelwestmoreland2530 Жыл бұрын
Apart from the fact that major metropolitan areas had Police Stations whose communications were mirroring Futurama mixed with Pony Express as late back as only 50 years, are we really just expected to believe the /sling/ was a piece of futuristic tactical wizardry no one had thought of before the early 1970s? "I need my hands free, but I have this gun. Hm. Ah well, better give up the armed and dangerous chase to secure the 12 gauge back in the patrol vehicle trunk. If only there were other options..."
@FrancisBecka
@FrancisBecka 2 жыл бұрын
"Your only options are to hold onto the weapon" or maybe you could have just attached a sling to it?
@commentatron
@commentatron Жыл бұрын
Or, holstered it in your pants and walked like Walter Brennan.
@TROLLERSDELIGHT
@TROLLERSDELIGHT Жыл бұрын
Slings aren't ideal because in close-quarters they can be grabbed by suspects and bystanders in altercations, throwing the officer off balance, possible loss of possession or discharge.
@mdavis8877
@mdavis8877 Жыл бұрын
@@TROLLERSDELIGHT That’s 100% not true regarding modern weapon handling practices. 2-Point Slings significantly help with weapon retention and you won’t see a long gun being used by competent LE, military, or civilian practical shooter without one, CQB environment especially.
@owner_mind
@owner_mind Жыл бұрын
to be fair, it was the 1970s not many people cared. except hunters for some reason, and the military.
@steveb9151
@steveb9151 3 жыл бұрын
9:20 The delivery of that line is what deserves the shotgun blast.
@R3TR0--93
@R3TR0--93 Жыл бұрын
the cops face when he turned around LMFAO XD
@HGates-hl4eq
@HGates-hl4eq Жыл бұрын
What's the matter kid, can't you get braces?
@MrWolfTickets
@MrWolfTickets Жыл бұрын
They did 23 takes and THAT was the best one...
@seneca-rb1vl
@seneca-rb1vl Жыл бұрын
😂
@jjtrue
@jjtrue Жыл бұрын
That was the original Beavis and Butthead!
@ESPLTD322
@ESPLTD322 Жыл бұрын
I have no clue why the narrator keeps cracking me up so much but I really like him for some reason. Looks like he’s thinking about pulling an ingenious practical joke on you or something when you’re not expecting it. And the way he keeps flipping around to the camera in a corny way, or how it just randomly comes to him out of nowhere. He has a very entertaining voice too.
@chizorama
@chizorama Жыл бұрын
The language used, "blow him away", I miss the 70's.
@SilverXTikal
@SilverXTikal Жыл бұрын
The thinking of pulling a joke part struck a cord with me
@jason6049
@jason6049 4 жыл бұрын
"when is appropriate to use a shotgun" "when a sidearm is available, and the situation might need a shotgun." I don't think that actually answered your question, but ok.
@tenchraven
@tenchraven Жыл бұрын
In the 70s, there might not have been a shot cup, just shot on top of felt or cardboard wad on top of the powder in a paper hull. Modern buckshot patterns tighter, not just tru-flite
@americanmilitiaman88
@americanmilitiaman88 Жыл бұрын
Federal flight control is a great wad
@bobmartin9918
@bobmartin9918 Жыл бұрын
Amen, modern plastic and even fibre wads are much better.
@azmrblack
@azmrblack Жыл бұрын
Yes back then it was just shot stacked on top of a fiber wad. No buffering compound or flite-control wads.
@oregonpatriot1570
@oregonpatriot1570 Жыл бұрын
3:37 Hey! That cop is holding my Remington 'police' 870! Love that scatter gun.
@hendo337
@hendo337 Жыл бұрын
I believe most cops like LAPD and LASD used Ithaca Model 37s which don't require a trigger disconnect to fire, you just pump them and hold it down and the shells eject out the bottom.
@BayouGrove
@BayouGrove 2 жыл бұрын
If only someone would've invented the sling...
@Aaron_Barrett
@Aaron_Barrett Жыл бұрын
It's not vomfortable anyway
@steve8189
@steve8189 Жыл бұрын
Some of the best class of videos for entertainment. Holy cow! The description of a suspect at the beginning, and the "blow the guy away" comment later on. Fantastic.
@steveb9151
@steveb9151 3 жыл бұрын
6:31 You can whirl, fire...and blow the guy away! - uh I mean... subdue the perpetrator.
@josestate3918
@josestate3918 Жыл бұрын
this is great - lots of shots of a pasadena (and altadena) that's changed so much since. playhouse district, hastings ranch, intersection of lake and altadena.
@mattyallen3396
@mattyallen3396 3 жыл бұрын
What did he have... a blunderbuss?
@andrewdaley3081
@andrewdaley3081 3 жыл бұрын
😂🤣🇬🇧👍
@jeffro221
@jeffro221 2 жыл бұрын
Great comment!
@sgtjarhead99
@sgtjarhead99 Жыл бұрын
Who's to say the cop wouldn't miss with the revolver when shooting under stress? Given the proximity of the civilians, you can still wind up with collateral damage.
@flippedhouse
@flippedhouse Жыл бұрын
Aren’t cops trained to deal with stress on the spot though? A panicked cop ain’t a good cop.
@TROLLERSDELIGHT
@TROLLERSDELIGHT Жыл бұрын
Yea, but its better than collateral from a heavier weapon.
@chizorama
@chizorama Жыл бұрын
50yds with a pistol is a tough shot.
@chizorama
@chizorama Жыл бұрын
@@flippedhouse You can train all you want, but you don't know how you'll react in a real time high stress situation, everybody's human.
@flippedhouse
@flippedhouse Жыл бұрын
@@chizorama but cops are trained in the arts of keeping your shit together
@otahu26
@otahu26 4 жыл бұрын
AS A hunter and Killing more then 50 deer. I have used Waxers out to 100 yards and very accurate out of a full choke bore.
@HeavyMental1000
@HeavyMental1000 5 жыл бұрын
Good job on subject description @ 1:07. The officer shot the poor white guy wielding a .38 outside the jewelry store mistaken identity
@USArmy-pv1gn
@USArmy-pv1gn 4 жыл бұрын
And it includes racism
@lisadaggy1
@lisadaggy1 4 жыл бұрын
@Colton Pauley It sidmt "stop", Racism is still occuring today.
@doge5603
@doge5603 3 жыл бұрын
Yikes
@askhowiknow5527
@askhowiknow5527 3 жыл бұрын
@@USArmy-pv1gn The word negro isn’t used to hurt anyone
@mnmountainman9343
@mnmountainman9343 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how they did stuff back then🤣😂🤣😂made my day❤
@mistofoles
@mistofoles Жыл бұрын
LMAO ! The bad guy fires a pop-gun, and the cop retaliates with a hand cannon !
@cymond
@cymond Жыл бұрын
First of all, that "pop gun" is still a lethal weapon. Second, what was the cop supposed to retaliate with? A harsh stare?
@josephwinkler4863
@josephwinkler4863 4 жыл бұрын
I hope this is a training video because I’m pretty sure every cop knows not to use a scatter gun on a busy sidewalk
@USArmy-pv1gn
@USArmy-pv1gn 4 жыл бұрын
My god how did I miss the baby
@thebassin1308
@thebassin1308 3 жыл бұрын
@@USArmy-pv1gn 😐
@DLI002
@DLI002 2 жыл бұрын
Why not just use slugs
@joshklaver47
@joshklaver47 Жыл бұрын
Unless you switch to a slug.
@josephwinkler4863
@josephwinkler4863 Жыл бұрын
Very true I think back then they had buckshot in them
@scootermann83
@scootermann83 Жыл бұрын
"Whirl, fire and blow the guy away" is an excellent training description 😂
@wolverinesdreams9293
@wolverinesdreams9293 Жыл бұрын
Watching this from Pasadena, CA in 2023.
@badge315
@badge315 Жыл бұрын
A lot of the drawbacks of shotguns described in this video are easily compensated for with modern upgrades. Need to free your hands? Attach a sling. Pellet spread too wide? Screw in a tighter choke tube or use rifled slugs. A bead sight too imprecise for longer ranges? Issue shotguns with rifle sights. Meanwhile, nearly every patrol car today has a rifle and shotguns are mostly relegated to launching less lethal munitions.
@blueduck9409
@blueduck9409 Жыл бұрын
Assault rifles are not a better option over shot guns.
@jonasandersson7367
@jonasandersson7367 Жыл бұрын
​@@blueduck9409 hi from sweden, yes at distance
@PlumpHotdog
@PlumpHotdog 3 жыл бұрын
**Bank robbery in progress** "GRAB THE FUCKING BLUNDERBUSS"
@Cracktaculus
@Cracktaculus 4 жыл бұрын
Take a tip from Reed and Malloy, always unmount the shotgun always.
@raditya5663
@raditya5663 2 жыл бұрын
why they not give gun sling to the shotgun?
@billrhodes5603
@billrhodes5603 5 жыл бұрын
LOL, select a firearm without the ability to utilize a sling.
@ngb802
@ngb802 4 жыл бұрын
Was just about to say sling
@talisdorman.9796
@talisdorman.9796 3 жыл бұрын
Expensive.
@cockula776
@cockula776 3 жыл бұрын
All from Sid Davis films, a known expert in Law Enforcement tactics lol
@roosterj2599
@roosterj2599 3 жыл бұрын
Collateral damage is always a high priority risk. Even current day with the issue of AR rifles. Not every cop is an exceptional shot. Sometimes you just gotta let me go. That's what warrants are for.
@Beuwen_The_Dragon
@Beuwen_The_Dragon 2 жыл бұрын
If a cop is getting shot at, no, that’s not a ‘just let the baddy go” situation.
@michaelmichael8406
@michaelmichael8406 2 жыл бұрын
"Sometimes you just gotta let me go." Something you'd like to confess to, Rooster? 😄
@roosterj2599
@roosterj2599 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmichael8406 Not at all. I'm good
@calanon534
@calanon534 Жыл бұрын
Let you go? Oh, Rooster! I could never! MARRY ME, YA BIG LUG! I kid, I kid. I couldn't resist.
@tubaraofeio1053
@tubaraofeio1053 Жыл бұрын
The AR much like a pistol only has a single projectile comming out of the barrel. The danger demonstrated in this video is that of a shotgun, wihch contains various pellets that on a medium to large distances easily spread out.
@shananagans5
@shananagans5 Жыл бұрын
lol The macrame owl hanging on the wall in the beginning distracted me. We had one exactly like it hanging on our living room wall until the late 80s. I had always assumed my mother had made it but, clearly, it was a manufactured product. Or, possibly it was sold as a pattern. No idea but we had one exactly like it for many years.
@loadingscreentipguy
@loadingscreentipguy Ай бұрын
1:36 “AHHH!” “Look out (said calmly)!” “Oh no!” “HEY!”
@JuanAdam12
@JuanAdam12 Жыл бұрын
That red-orange Enstrom helicopter was an everyday-sighting in Pasadena back in the day.
@daveybass655
@daveybass655 2 жыл бұрын
He nailed that perp !
@jnutt383838
@jnutt383838 Жыл бұрын
9:22 is the most beautiful smile I have ever seen
@gregoryballa8018
@gregoryballa8018 4 жыл бұрын
So the take away message is... Never take the shotgun?
@tamacat920
@tamacat920 4 жыл бұрын
no, the message is to know when to take what weapon to take. it was talking about the shotgun.
@matthewm9987
@matthewm9987 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah agreed
@Buletspunge555
@Buletspunge555 2 жыл бұрын
Only take it if you have a crystal ball and can afford to lose the assistance of your partner.
@Aaron_Barrett
@Aaron_Barrett Жыл бұрын
Don't shoot in a crowd of civilians with shotgun
@reynaldoflores4522
@reynaldoflores4522 Жыл бұрын
Better to use the tommygun.
@alexboyd4370
@alexboyd4370 5 ай бұрын
Some officers back then carried .357 revolvers but shot special law enforcement .38 rounds out of the .357
@haydengorz7190
@haydengorz7190 3 жыл бұрын
1:38 that old man had a very high pitched voice
@MatthewReiser123
@MatthewReiser123 8 ай бұрын
Any Pasadena natives here? 3:29 The old PPD firing range at 2791 Eaton Canyon Dr, 91107 7:50 See's and Thrifty (then a music store in 1980s) at 3593 E Foothill Blvd, 91107 8:14 "Bowl" sign (passed it hundreds of times, working at Hammy's Hamburgers 1981-82) 8:40 Running from 963 E Colorado Blvd, 91106, over a now-absent wall ... 9:06 ... then past (HandleBars in 1980s, and Toe's Tavern 1990s) 10:27 North Lake, in Altadena 13:39 Logistics Corp at 3600 E Foothill Blvd, 91107 (became a gentlemen's club in 1990s, now a Toyota) I was raised in Upper Hastings Ranch, and worked in Lower Hastings Ranch (Hammy's and Hastings Theatre, 1981-83)
@Brando_Magnifico
@Brando_Magnifico Жыл бұрын
Opening scene with the macrame owl on the wall! ✌🤣
@oldcop18
@oldcop18 3 жыл бұрын
I survived three shootings w/my duty .38, preferring to leave the shotgun in the cruiser for all the reasons mentioned here.
@Buletspunge555
@Buletspunge555 2 жыл бұрын
What was the thinking behind not using a sling on the long gun?
@joshklaver47
@joshklaver47 Жыл бұрын
Or you could use a sling...
@mcstiggens
@mcstiggens Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂omg!! Hard to believe this actually was serious and not a joke
@zackdaniels6858
@zackdaniels6858 Жыл бұрын
I have seen this Before, And Thankyou! I must say...i absolutely love these old vids! For the historic values And how The Information is To this day Still Rings True. Cheers
@alanwood5857
@alanwood5857 4 жыл бұрын
Cool 70's GM ambulances and Nova cop cars...you can just point a shotgun and most people think twice.
@WhocaresWhy44
@WhocaresWhy44 Жыл бұрын
Don't you wish LA was this clean now.
@cascadianrangers728
@cascadianrangers728 Жыл бұрын
Shotguns have been seriously overmatched by moden sporting rifles. But I've been practicing with a Mossberg 590a1 for close to 20 years now. I can pump out a round of buck, ghost load a slug, and send it exactly where I want with a red dot, and i can do it out of muscle memory and do it quicker than I can explain what I'm doing with speech. I am beyond surgical with that bitch, I know exactly my shot spread at any range by eye. I also never run out of shells because I shoot two and load two with 8+1 in a full tube. It also mounts a bayonet, which I received way, way, way too much instruction and practice using effectively in the USMC I might pick a rifle depending on the situation, fighting at range is always best, but I would go up against any man and most monsters with a 590a1 and I would not feel under equipped for it. The 12g pump is a serious weapon, and if you underestimate what it can do, or what someone can do with it, it may be the last mistake you ever make.
@Bobby-hm4dz
@Bobby-hm4dz Жыл бұрын
Very Informatif, thank you
@defcon7653
@defcon7653 3 жыл бұрын
Shotgun or sidearm? Why not both? As in...both at the same time. Shotgun in right hand, sidearm in left. Job done.
@networkinc.6825
@networkinc.6825 Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah 👍👍👍
@shawnio
@shawnio Жыл бұрын
the dialogue was like a 1980's gta game. can you imagine, you go to rob a store and a cop casually shoots you with a shotgun, people talking about pellets, they didn't use pellets they weren't allowed to, it was a big ol rifled slug. terrible damage, there's no use handcuffing that guy lol
@Hugooo35
@Hugooo35 Жыл бұрын
Какое тёплое ламповое кино... 😍
@dot__8216
@dot__8216 4 жыл бұрын
hey uhm chief what does the gun do after you fire it chief: idk mate find out urself
@americanmilitiaman88
@americanmilitiaman88 Жыл бұрын
Today shotguns are mostly used for less lethal. Often with a orange stock and forend with not lethal ammunition allowed. It is a devastating close range weapon no doubt. But capacity is limited recoil can be a bit much for some and its longer than a 16 inch barreled AR that can put rounds exactly where you want them and fast. Shotguns have came along way since the 1970s with better ammunition stocks and accessories and semi auto shotguns have become more reliable but they fill a small role.
@echo5delta
@echo5delta Жыл бұрын
The ammo has changed a lot for 12ga patrol shotguns. With my FN patrol shotgun it still holds a 6” spread at 25yds with Federal Tactical 9 pellet 00 Buck. I would rather have my shotgun vs patrol rifle if I know I’m engaging close range.
@mistofoles
@mistofoles Жыл бұрын
Well, that's handy - Everybody was labelled with arrows, so at least the cop would know who he was supposed to be shooting at.
@donmcatee45
@donmcatee45 4 жыл бұрын
The psychological effect of a bigger weapon... dispatch sends in the helo armed with 20 mike mike... lmao
@USArmy-pv1gn
@USArmy-pv1gn 4 жыл бұрын
My god how did I miss the baby
@YouTubeIsRunByMarxists
@YouTubeIsRunByMarxists Жыл бұрын
Cop shoulda brought a belt-fed MG; then NO ONE on the street would have escaped unscathed.
@nukiepoo
@nukiepoo Жыл бұрын
I guess the gub sling hadn’t been invented yet, LOL
@gregb6469
@gregb6469 Жыл бұрын
That's right, Woody!
@colehansell2854
@colehansell2854 Жыл бұрын
He rolled in there like duke nukem with no bubblegum.
@rtaggs8178
@rtaggs8178 Жыл бұрын
Federal Flite Control that would not have happened at that distance. Reminds me of crappy Remington Buck Shot. 10 yards away and the Remington Buck is all over the place.
@kraptastic333
@kraptastic333 Жыл бұрын
what an elaborate plumbing system for taxpayer dollars by pasadena PD. high quality production here. thanks for the historical and informative upload
@Aridzonia1
@Aridzonia1 5 ай бұрын
My old dept finally figured out in 2000 that it would be a good idea to put shoulder slings on all the shotguns.
@themarklinengine5408
@themarklinengine5408 3 жыл бұрын
Switching to your sidearm is faster than reloading
@reynaldoflores4522
@reynaldoflores4522 Жыл бұрын
1:34 A handgun will never win against a scattergun. Not unless you're Wild Bill Hickok.
@ChimpFromSpace
@ChimpFromSpace 9 ай бұрын
A sidewalk in downtown Pasadena without a single homeless or pile of trash? So the legends were true...
@prasantasaha7907
@prasantasaha7907 4 жыл бұрын
That's why they put slings to shotguns
@TARandFEATHERS
@TARandFEATHERS Жыл бұрын
Check out the trigger finger discipline at about 3:29...again at 9:46.. good thing we've made some progress since those days.
@kurtb8474
@kurtb8474 3 жыл бұрын
3:32 Dude's got a .44 magnum for a sidearm.
@thebassin1308
@thebassin1308 3 жыл бұрын
Inspector Callahan
@averagejoey2000
@averagejoey2000 Жыл бұрын
dirty Harry's side gig
@kennethwise9391
@kennethwise9391 3 жыл бұрын
I take it slings weren’t utilized back then?
@jeroendesterke9739
@jeroendesterke9739 Жыл бұрын
The shotgun wielding LEO could have butt-slapped the perp.
@RogersGirl88
@RogersGirl88 2 жыл бұрын
Police Story from the 1970’s was a great show. Im ashamed that I was too much of a coward to become a cop like my dad. I became an air force security police sergeant instead, but it isn’t the “real deal.”
@jeffro221
@jeffro221 2 жыл бұрын
Thx for your honesty. Rare these days.
@calanon534
@calanon534 Жыл бұрын
You still served our country. For that, thank you. I knew a lot of cowards that wouldn't even do Logistics or Clerical, let alone Security Police.
@joshklaver47
@joshklaver47 Жыл бұрын
That totally is the real deal. Don't sell yourself short.
@hendo337
@hendo337 Жыл бұрын
Most cops I know are crooks, you're better off.
@glennhelm9525
@glennhelm9525 Жыл бұрын
You are not a coward. I saw too many cops striving to be supervisors so they could get off the street. Many, but not all were intellectual cowards . You did your duty & that's what counts.
@USArmy-pv1gn
@USArmy-pv1gn 4 жыл бұрын
My god how did I miss the baby
@USArmy-pv1gn
@USArmy-pv1gn 4 жыл бұрын
And one he could have used slugs instead of 12 gauge
@jacobbeech6401
@jacobbeech6401 3 жыл бұрын
Donut !
@joeguzman3558
@joeguzman3558 21 күн бұрын
I went to the police academy in the 1980s, and one of the reasons of police departments didn't want to use 357 magnum was over penetration in apartment buildings.
Жыл бұрын
Did anyone noticed the perp's description by the 911 operator vs the actual perp shot down?
@kennywise237
@kennywise237 2 жыл бұрын
Slings have always been around Flite control was not Different time frames
@The67wheelman
@The67wheelman Жыл бұрын
Never heard of a sling apparently
@mistofoles
@mistofoles Жыл бұрын
I don't believe this !..."All units !! We have spotted an open door on the south side of the warehouse ! Move in ! Move in !!" "Freeze, asshole !! WTF are you doing here in the middle of the night ??" "I'm the janitor." "Ah.."
@monsterchild6371
@monsterchild6371 4 жыл бұрын
Go to 1:08 that would’ve gotten you canceled in 2020 but a great description in 1970s
@dad4life269
@dad4life269 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that today shotguns are much more accurate but i may be wrong
@bobbleheadeater3209
@bobbleheadeater3209 Жыл бұрын
You're right, modern shells have shotcups in them now instead of just a cardboard wad which controls the pattern a bit more, tighter.
@NoNameNoFace-rr7li
@NoNameNoFace-rr7li 3 ай бұрын
depends on the ammo and the distance..slug or buck
@timcarter625
@timcarter625 2 жыл бұрын
Federal flight control… buckshot has come a long way
@MH-tx8kb
@MH-tx8kb 3 жыл бұрын
This video must have been made before the invention of the sling 🤦‍♂️
@calanon534
@calanon534 4 жыл бұрын
I had criticisms about tactics. Now I'm criticizing the ammo they were using.
@trevorbattle1861
@trevorbattle1861 Жыл бұрын
How about a shotgun sling??? This way the officer could sling the weapon and climb fence with his secondary weapon. Did they have slings in the 1970s?
@jonmeek3879
@jonmeek3879 Жыл бұрын
Remember this film from our academy
@sterv6493
@sterv6493 Жыл бұрын
How a basic sling would change so much for this video
@konzeptzwei
@konzeptzwei Жыл бұрын
is the exact year available for this film?
@jeremysheehan702
@jeremysheehan702 Жыл бұрын
You can tell this video is old because they would never respond to a call like that in Cali now lmao
@mistofoles
@mistofoles Жыл бұрын
@2:27 - Forehead grazed ?? And the understatement of the year award goes to...
@atomix62t
@atomix62t 4 жыл бұрын
Roy DeSoto And Johnny Gage Can Take Care Of The innocent Bystanders, Pronto
@collectornick4270
@collectornick4270 4 жыл бұрын
"LA this is 51, respond a 2nd ambulance to our location."
@TofsrudCubing
@TofsrudCubing 4 жыл бұрын
Did they have beanbag rounds at the time?
@TofsrudCubing
@TofsrudCubing 3 жыл бұрын
Oh... I never knew that, well curiosity kills the cat
@spannaspinna
@spannaspinna 2 жыл бұрын
00 buckshot bean bag rounds
@fainjohnson3637
@fainjohnson3637 Жыл бұрын
They should start putting slings on their shotguns.
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