Shotzzy Gets Real about Call of Duty & CDL | The Flycast Ep. 133

[@JSerr885]

Say what y’all want about shotzzy but at least he cares about the league

[@rook1eangel758]

Ant trying to be the face of call of duty and he should be him and scump

[@raiderteeezy5029]

Dead homiez

[@youngsucio]

Money*

[@owensteele445]

@@youngsuciour a moron if u think that

[@Hushed_1]

@@youngsucio did you miss the parts where he’s said he’s set for life and doesn’t need the money?

[@Hushed_1]

People love roasting Shotzzy for how “dumb” he is, but he has a such a strong sense of self awareness that some of the smartest people don’t have and that’s why he’s successful.

[@patrickthomas2650]

He trolls everyone with the dumb stuff

[@Hushed_1]

@ facts.

[@itsnike15]

He knows what’s important the other stuff is just waste of brain use. 😂

[@juicedupsmg]

Who’s roasting shotzzy?

[@aoverhol1028]

He’s playing a character. He’s no dummy

[@philthese985]

I think its hilarious that Hitch and Nick don't know the episode number but SHOTZZY of all people knew it 😂

[@Hushed_1]

He loves the flycast lol

[@Exiled_I]

Shotzzy has been on fire lately! His takes have been raw and honest, and it’s refreshing to see him speaking his mind. Whether it's about the CDL or just competitive gaming in general, he’s keeping it real. His rants have been hitting hard, and you can tell he’s passionate about it.

[@Perplxed]

The kids these days forget the scene was built on content from the beginning. Without nade, scump, faze, etc cod competitive never gets to even where its at now

[@M4FIA-g5l]

they forgot cause they all got inflated salaries lmao

[@gearsOFwar2freaks]

Nick low key did a pretty good job at driving the conversation in this one!

[@lRedstxR]

Nah he just interrupts a shit ton and doesn’t finish a convo

[@its_kobe2472]

Shottzy cooking. love to see the passion as a CoD fan since 2010 and new to the competitive CoD scene

[@zyhru]

maniac asks amazing questions

[@Hushed_1]

He really does

[@RyGuy1127]

I can't lie you're right, he's come a long ways. The questions he was asking were perfect to get shotzzy talking about everything lol

[@aoverhol1028]

Sober Niac is actually W content. Drugs were holding back his potential

[@jae0036]

Pros feel entitled because they’re “pros”. This isn’t the NBA, NFL, MLB, etc. Ant is 100000% right. Yay you made the league, now what? You can’t treat it like traditional sports because it’s never been that and it’s never going to be that. Sure in a perfect world, should scrims be streamed? Maybe not, but right now with the state of the game, the league, and the scene, it’s something. We gotta do something. Love you Ant, NiaC, and Hitch. 💚

[@TheKaizenMan07]

Deadass think this was the best pod yall have recorded ever.. keep it up!

[@allmightboy2575]

Pros could even reach out that are based in Texas to come on the flycast to bring in more fans

[@__Smitty__]

Shotzzy with the cake out is crazy work

[@juicedupsmg]

Optic should open up a training camp or something and have it so you guys train new CDL members and streamers at the same time. Because bro there is a lot of us that would do it if u helped us and gave an opportunity

[@MartinPinto-zy1ju]

I've followed shotzzy since his halo days. It's been such a blast watching this kid prove all the doubters wrong. True fps genius

[@TheJRic13]

$50k a month just off twitch , making other pros minimum salaries 😂

[@Hushed_1]

There’s not even a minimum salary now

[@nvno]

not even ... half of the league is on 80 to 100k

[@GalaxyMiichael]

Everyone in CDL is making 80+ at least and on average 100k.

[@TheJRic13]

@@GalaxyMiichael he makes it in 2 months on twitch

[@GalaxyMiichael]

@@TheJRic13 yup, and other pros are just collecting checks not caring enough to put their name out there. Clips stay around forever and u have to start somewhere hope this scene really changes their ways

[@Good_Comms]

Talk your shit Shotzzy!!!

[@gamebxy]

Need that bound flycast asap

[@Real-talk-only.]

On the point of growing the scene, players need to play pubs. Most of the current fanbase of the CDL is the same people that have been following cod for years. A lot of these people play ranked and like the competitive side of cod. But, to grow the scene you have to capture the audience you dont have. Think about back in the day when scump had the 70 challenge, those videos have millions of views. I do think its harder now with sbmm, but there needs to be some type of content of pubs, from pros, if you want to grow.

[@aarongarcia2911]

Nick out here trying to defend himself lol. Just turn on the damn camera Nick! Dont make shotzzy come at ya neck. If you turned on that camera all those years ago and never stopped you would be in a different place. You're also in a position where you can still do it because your blessed to be in optic. If these guys start now, in 8 years they'll be happy they did and didnt stop. It wont happen overnight. But they gotta start if they ever want to have their name seen as a brand.

[@RelentlessGamingX]

Pretty sure hes just playing devils advocate😂 doubt it's that deep

[@aarongarcia2911]

Also, Shotzzy has the personality and wits about him to follow in Scumps footsteps. If he just doesn't stop and keeps going, he'll be bigger than Scump in the future

[@berzerk_wog4113]

​@@aarongarcia2911 he'll be close to scump MAYBE, but the King can't be replaced big fella

[@aarongarcia2911]

@@berzerk_wog4113 Everyone will eventually be surpassed. Scump was the guy when I was young and he grew to be huge. But we were still a tiny population compared to today's numbers on streaming and videos. By the time ant retires, he'll be at a point where he has more screen time than Seth, more people growing up with him, and more money and direction than Seth had. He'll be pushed up simply by being the second up. It's just like the COD scene. The first had to walk so that the new kids could run. It's just how the world works bro.

[@jxxi]

I remember when the big streamers (at the time) used to tuned in and talk about cod tourneys and Champs. You don't really see that anymore

[@RubenSmokes]

Hecz must LOVEEE shotzzy cause he loves this more than anyone ❤

[@M4FIA-g5l]

it’s funny how he has this “i’m dumb” persona but in reality bro is smart asf about his money. talks about assets, renting, passive income etc.

[@Joshua74801]

30:00 Crazy thing is that I went back into all the old GoW Optic Players twitter accounts and half of them are inactive… Crazy to see

[@anthonyhernandez7858]

DeMar DeRozen has a quote that stuck with me when he was on PG’s podcast, just replace league with your passion/career. “We got a lot of sorry mf’s in the league…” then continued to cook the league. Talking about how many people don’t love the sport or dont care about winning.

[@LovesteinJr]

shotzzy getting smarter n smarter keep it up buddy

[@PuReGhOsTT]

WOOOO NEW FLYCAST

[@Obserrve]

love the fast uploads!

[@elishagonzales2308]

Dude I love nick 😂 when asking shotzzy if heckz yells at him 💀

[@Penky001]

Cheaters, SBMM, SNIPINGS BAD , Only people who care for cod is the people who can't play 24/7 and to them I feels like a chore to sweat every game for the 1-2 hours they can play

[@stompingpeak2043]

Yeah ive played a few mp games and won but I'm not really excited for this mp. The maps suck and the guns are unbalanced. I can still carry a +2kd but its just not fun. These maps are trash and I'm absolutely tired of playing black ops retread maps for the 8th time. I've just been playing zombies to get my cod fix this year. They need to scrap this whole system. The past 3 cods all have felt the exact same and it's not good.

[@earlcathcart4783]

I woulda thought his worst memory woulda been the post match interview in London.

[@thatboytrevvv]

Shotzzy even shitting on people in his sleep

[@thatkidVegas]

Shotzy would be a nasty light player on THE FINALS. Movement in that game is like no other

[@ty-lercox]

Introduction & Sleep Deprivation (0:35-1:30) Hex's Reaction & Work Ethic (1:31-2:25) Savior of Call of Duty & CDL Issues (2:26-3:19) Lack of Practice & Scene Dying (3:20-5:30) Defining the Dying Scene (5:31-7:29) Value & Funding in the CDL (7:30-9:34) What Players Should Be Doing (9:35-10:52) Halo's Decline & Passion for COD (10:53-12:34) The Current State of COD Content (12:35-13:22) Shotzzy's Call to Action & Community Response (13:23-15:34) Shotzzy's Rant & Backlash (15:35-16:56) Trolling & Engagement (16:57-17:36) Fake Practice & Scrims (17:37-18:36) Streaming Scrims & Money (18:37-21:35) Casual Viewership & Other Teams Streaming (21:36-22:17) Advantages of Streaming Scrims (22:18-25:08) The State of Call of Duty & Lack of Interest (25:09-27:58) Gears of War & Halo Comparison (27:59-29:23) The Future of COD & Dependence on Scump & Zoomaa (29:24-30:50) Shotzzy's Role & Taking Personal Shots (30:51-31:21) The Rant & Its Impact (31:22-32:35) Losing & Team Dynamics (32:36-34:35) Vegas Team & Paychecks (34:36-35:18) Target on Shotzzy's Back & Mental Strength (35:19-36:36) Shotzzy as the Face of COD & Call to Action (36:37-37:25) The Future of CDL & Grassroots Possibility (37:26-38:31) Complacency & Future Plans (38:32-40:34) Switching Games & Video Games for Life (40:35-41:37) Houses & Financial Advice (41:38-46:26) Sleeping Habits (46:27-49:43) Fan Questions & Nervousness at Events (49:44-51:28) Early Career & Team Dynamics (51:29-53:34) Underrated Teammates (53:35-54:45) Favorite & Worst Moments (54:46-57:41) Wrap-Up & Support for Shotzzy (57:42-58:27)

[@Casualviewer713]

Flycast is literally Wayne’s World.

[@Cristian_D63]

"Fact of the reality of our circumstances" that's a Hecs quote if I heard one😂

[@Jonez5]

Agree with everything he’s saying. I legit wouldn’t have watched cod in the last 2-3 years if it wasn’t for zooma and the content he’s putting out

[@technicianumber1288]

As someone who ONLY plays hardcore, maybe it's worth a couple vids on that game mode, quite the different gameplay, and people are gonna wanna see how you do!

[@xX-Logic-]

I respect Shotzzy for standing on business but 60k a year really isn't "buy house" money. I'm sure they maybe could depending on their credit but for these young guys that spend most of their time playing games, it isn't realistic.

[@rag3_solar410]

I haven’t watched the whole vid but I don’t have time, can you elaborate at all on what you’re talking about

[@_Deeyaz]

I’m gonna assume you’re very young, 60k is definitely enough to buy a house like a NORMAL person. They’d have to get a loan, have good credit, and refinance in a few years in hopes of getting a lower interest rate. They couldn’t pay cash like some of these bigger creators, but it doesn’t mean they couldn’t. 60k is a normal person salary. If they want to make more, they should do things to bring more eyeballs to the scene, in turn bringing more advertisers and more dollars to go around. There’s zero draw in call of duty nowadays

[@jaked9538]

i agree but also to his point they would get paid more if they had more to bring to a brand, grinding more both in scrims, challs, and streaming, which adds to his point

[@_Deeyaz]

That’s exactly what I said you just worded it differently lol.

[@xX-Logic-]

@@_Deeyaz Bro these kids are playing video games for a living, they most likely don’t have good credit or aren’t thinking about taking out a home loan while making 60k a year when the scene is dying. And I didn’t say it wasn’t possible, it’s just not realistic.

[@riplordfinesse2191]

Love all the Zoomaa gas . Bro was quite literally carrying the scene dolo before Scump retired

[@g_on_cue7237]

Probably the best podcast out of Niac

[@nurovisuals7350]

The crazy thing is the sec e was better when people used forums instead of twitch a Twitter& Reddit it’s wild lol

[@broski7864]

He’s right tho hype it up fight for what you love

[@jhughes19851]

A successful streaming career can pay MUCH more than the CDL salaries... They should all be on as much as possible

[@bruciesanchez6381]

In case you weren't sure, shotzzy is a competitor

[@Krome1111]

Great pod!!

[@Hushed_1]

Wild none of the other pros are freaking out like he is. No ones going to care about the game unless they give us a reason to.

[@timtaylor4752]

It's not about the houses, it's about not putting anything into the scene like they all think it cant go anywhere, I think he was meaning that they're making bad decisions and not putting into the game at the same time like what they've got is untouchable ...it's the mentality he's questioning.

[@thannydevitos2332]

I think it’s pretty clear. He’s been at the top of a game that killed itself. He doesn’t want it to happen again

[@Youngezquire]

Love ya shotzzy, the goat, the inspiration, PLEASE MAKE COD GREAT AGAIN!!!! 💯💪🎉

[@patrickthomas2650]

CDL dies = 90% of pros going back to college to figure out a new career or a Costco team member

[@vinciperri]

Maybe cod needs to die to wake them up to make a better game and stop disrespecting us with the “it’s cod they’ll play it regardless” mentality they have. As sad as it is because we all love cod but this has been happening for years when do we stand up and hold them accountable….

[@Stompyyyyy]

I really think the loss of interest in COD from popular streamers like Dr disrespect, TimTheTatman and Nickmercs (importantly: not pro players) in the last 6 months has had a bigger impact than people think

[@vicmathew23]

disrespect wasn’t cod’s fault though. it was his own for talking to kids

[@TacRabsBiggestAirConditioner]

That and the long break didn't help. Initially viewership before the break was actually half decent, but these days consistency with content is everything. New viewers won't have enough attachment to the CDL or their favorite team to check back in after a month if they've only seen a handful of games a week apart - even if they genuinely enjoyed those few games.

[@feelyourselfdisintegrate]

dang niac let the fellas talk

[@brandonhunt3628]

Here’s a start how about you let pros stream scrims? Also no one gives a shit about twitch anymore due to an ad being ran every 5 fucking minutes. 10 years ago adds we’re not running like they were, money started flowing more to not only the business aspect of streaming but the streamers themselves and that’s all anyone cares about anymore. When we watched optic back in 2014-2017 you got to feel like you were always there with the team almost like you were apart of them got to watch more than just tourneys and placement matches. It’s sad but money is the root to all downfalls. It falls back to everyone involved and until these orgs and games developers look in the mirror start caring about the people (optic included) more than themselves nothing will change. OG Scump and Nade made videos constantly different challenges back in the bo2 days. Road to 100 series bo3 with nade and boze, mlg ladder is no longer a thing, Seth 70 kill challenge.

[@vibe0ne10]

Incredibly smart individual despite his sometimes dumb moments. If the players don’t create an environment to further perpetuate the league - salaries will keep declining as viewership keeps declining

[@yonny1312]

air the buns out, i feel you ant

[@Delo-s6h]

Everything went down after teams franchised.

[@SkimpedTerps]

If I was a player in my early 20s making 6 figures I wouldn't take competition serious either.

[@ivannolasco7435]

Was this your first drink 😂😂😂

[@Slayer-tv8ub]

Just like a normal job. You have people who come in early and people who show up late. People who put pride in their work and go above and beyond and people who could care less and collect a check. You are gonna have the same types of people in every work place. Just crazy these kids are getting paid to pick up a controller and play a video game. Send these lazy boys to a real job site for a week and I bet they will do everything in their power to keep the cdl alive.

[@aleca1234]

idk how players dont grasp this concept. What hitch said isn't a crazy thing. it's the same way traditional sports operate. Players aren't payed only based on skill but what else they bring to the team such as jersey sales, ticket sales, etc...

[@edwardbaeza7916]

what needs to be done is everyone streaming scrims, team content and stream collabs such as 4v4 matches with everyone in the same discord, pros hosting other pros streams, content mandatory by every org and their players, constant mini community events where pros play consistently. I understand joining optic is a different type of push in regards to making a name for yourself outside of the competition, but if cod were to die today, who would stay relevant? Gwinn is nasty. Snoopy is nasty. Hydra is nasty. I watch them in a match when codcasters watch them for 20 seconds at a time. I would love to watch them play a whole match or wagers or anything really. Talent gets viewership. I can’t understand how you can be a top smg or pro and not want to increase your value.

[@kajon6050]

CHEEKZZY strikes again. LMFAO

[@teamrockettv7398]

I have been an optic fan since A.W. unless it is a major or champs, I only watch the optic matches.

[@the.jonfernandez]

11:17 this is too disrespectful of a statement lmao I would say their is a very similar amount if not more pros and amateurs streaming infinite daily than CoD right now. Some of them have been consistent for all of infinite and before infinite too. I’m thinking Snakebite, Royal 2, Frosty, Trippey, Piggy, etc + the rest of the community members who don’t compete but stream daily. the numbers might not be there but that’s definitely not from a lack of streams to watch or the players fault. Microsoft/Halo studios just suck. Also there are many content creators in the Halo scene. Real life Spartan, mint blintz, hiddenxperia, shyway, Active, the shilt show, YNOT, Reclaimer, Oath, Echidna. Just to name a few. Not trying to be long winded or argumentative about it but just gotta put some respect on the Halo community because the community and its players are literally the only thing keeping Halo alive.

[@ignHab]

all them combined stream to what 3k viewers Peak?

[@the.jonfernandez]

@@ignHab Pretty much but thats why I said " the numbers might not be there but that’s definitely not from a lack of streams to watch or the players fault." I'm not saying Halo isn't on life support but its not because nobody streams or makes content like Niac was saying

[@beanh3ad500]

Ant be blowing wind on his girl at night 😂

[@completeGamer007]

Can anyone explain the whole pred situation?

[@Connyhill]

Scump nadeshot and even non pros like nickmercs brought people into the competitive scene. These days pros think all they need to do is turn up at the events and expect a big salary. Cod is dying and the comp scene is hanging on by a thread. FACT

[@slpyMillahh]

i just know 29:20 is gonna be funny

[@DestinyYagami]

20:04 this is where i truly think KIDS LOVES AND NEED HANDOUTS NOW... ( if shottzy is shitting on u with 6k viewers but ur learning things and YOU ARE STREAMING ) IF ANYTHING HES OPENING THE DOOR TO SMALLER KIDS

[@BladeWhitten]

The game has to be good to grow it… you can’t have ranked mode running ramped with hackers and expect people to play and like the game lol

[@YaBoyGus]

So what you’re saying is…… go hard on halo content and I’ll be invited to a Hitch tournament!? 😭

[@nolanmarshall3212]

get money b on!

[@reinaldocardenas5094]

Call of duty will not die on my watch

[@anthonysanchez6170]

The skill based crap, the cheaters , and now we can't even talk ish we get chat disabled for every little thing , They really messed the game up

[@gwallino-5013]

hitch needs a stylist

[@melrah666]

hearing that he sleeps with his ass out is the funniest shit ever

[@brandanharris7551]

Making it about HIM is wild … I legit look up cdl content and nothing there lol . He not wrong lol . Either grow or die

[@CrutchedUp]

MAKE COD GREAT AGAIN

[@beanh3ad500]

Hitch stole nicks glasses

[@Every-3-Days]

I’ll tell you one thing for sure. I’m sick of the “oh it’s going to be different this year” or “oh treyarch is developing this game, it’s going to be catered towards competitive”. You can’t convince me Treyarch didn’t die as soon as Von left. Bo6 will be the last call of duty I ever buy regardless of “hype” from the community.

[@niickyboiii]

Shottzy is right but that’s not how a leader talks

[@MrNaty25]

CDL super boring to watch

[@vicvallarta]

Other orgs need to create storylines for their players, they dont even need to be about skill, drama sells, rivalries keep people watching

[@mman6859]

Sbmm just ruins it for me. There’s no reason I should be playing against top 1% players in EVERY pubs match. Maybe 1 out of every 10 games but every match plays the same tbh

[@danielh2ohernandez]

lmfao sleeping cheeks out is crazy work

[@smd..4444]

greenwall

[@ttbeatz9261]

The co host and member of Optic saying he does not care about Cod is the reason the scene is losing interest. Majority of people in Optic probably feel the same, y’all are equally the reason the scene is heading downward. Y’all are IN Optic and don’t care, why would anyone else?

[@ttbeatz9261]

And this isn’t JUST Optic content creators that are connected in someway to CoD, all orgs. You got Nadeshot streaming Rivals during Thieves vs Optic, an owner of a team, and y’all think people are supposed to care who have nothing to do with the team?

[@kajon6050]

W ANT!

[@powdare4218]

"You never thought of food for 24 hours at a time" 😂

[@Nate-jg2os]

We need everyone to stop crashing out and find a way for the league to raise money but if cod dies then GGs

[@treycripe3412]

I don’t care either and I was one of the biggest fans of cod. The only time I get super hyped was in person events

[@miguelcardoso2638]

4me its all about the cheaters. For fuck sake I’ve put so many hours into COD as I grew up, now playing for fun, ranking up, leveling guns, getting cammos in a ps5, can’t play more than 5hours a week because I work and prioritize family over games… and as soon as I hop in, I get slammed by cheaters spawn trapping. Battle my ass off to win a game, outplay a cheater but it’s exhausting… I don’t want to play cod anymore, it’s just not fun at all. I watch scump ranked and shotzzy in KZbin, watch a couple games of cdl whenever optic plays, and that’s all.

[@brandonglenn34]

If i was a pro and we was not doing good I would want to play 8s to get better there is 48 players there should be 6 games of 8s every day or other day

[@scottsundwall6753]

God damn comments are half bots wtf

[@ogtratsky8850]

If the devs don't care about the scene then why should the community.

[@troysvids4268]

MintBlitz shout-out!!

[@hoovebeats6895]

Dope

[@luckraftman5636]

Get bound on the podcast please

[@dfish349]

COD literally is the only game in history that makes a new game every year with the SAME issues. No wonder the game is about dead……