Should Barbie Win the Oscar? | Guilty Pleasures Ep. 147

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Guilty Pleasures

Guilty Pleasures

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@katecoleman1799
@katecoleman1799 9 ай бұрын
Need to acknowledge that America didn't disappear, she crushed it in Superstore
@Andrea-jq2fk
@Andrea-jq2fk 9 ай бұрын
One of my favorite shows ever❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥
@jolandasanchez972
@jolandasanchez972 9 ай бұрын
She also started to produce and direct!
@nicanproud
@nicanproud 9 ай бұрын
Superstore was SO GOOD
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 9 ай бұрын
@@jolandasanchez972Omg I was about to mention that and I’m so happy for her
@natkatj
@natkatj 9 ай бұрын
and as fawn in the tinker bell movies!
@tayloroo
@tayloroo 9 ай бұрын
Love Kelsey sm, but the idea that people who have acted in more high-profile movies deserve an Oscar if they've never won before (instead of a newbie) is 100% why the Oscars have lost their magic. The best performance of the year deserves to win THAT year - that's it!
@nataliarojas4701
@nataliarojas4701 9 ай бұрын
There’s no chance he’ll read this lol but I feel so compelled to give Zach a huge appreciation for his takes throughout the podcast. As an Indigenous person and Latina, it was very disappointing to see that Margot and Greta not getting nominated completely overshadowed the Oscar’s discourse and didn’t allow us to celebrate Lily Gladstone and America Ferrera’s nominations. It was such a pleasure to see so many BIPOC people nominated across the board who truly deserved it. Not saying Greta and Margot weren’t great, but they were not the best, and they’ll definitely have more opportunities to be nominated and win an Oscar. I understand Kelsey wanting awards to be given to people who’ve been in the industry for a longer time, but we cannot deny people an award just because they’re new if there’s a high likelihood that BIPOC folks will never get nominated or get another huge role again. If it is suggested that the Oscars not be so quick to give awards to new nominees, then there has to be as much energy put into reducing barriers for BIPOC people in the industry. And ironically for me, while I did enjoy the Barbie movie, the lack of an intersectional feminist lens in the movie was the same thing I saw reflected in society during all the Oscars’ conversations. So thank you Zach, from one of your day 1 fans 💚
@julua4220
@julua4220 9 ай бұрын
I completely agree with you! Khadija Mbowe made an incredible video about the toxicity of white feminism, especially in how it relates to the outrage around Margot and Greta not getting Oscar nominations.
@otter.mayhem
@otter.mayhem 9 ай бұрын
I'm just commenting to boost your comment! I think comments that get replies get more favor from the algorithm? Idk, but in case it helps, here's a comment😂
@jaylaclarke-carr7157
@jaylaclarke-carr7157 9 ай бұрын
Yes I love America she one of the only celebrities from Honduras who is big rn and I love her so much
@honoluluw
@honoluluw 9 ай бұрын
i saw an article where michelle yeoh aka the first asian to win best actress was asked about greta gerwig and margot robbie being snubbed, and i was like why would they ask her that lmao?? if they wanted to ask her about the oscar nominations why couldn't they ask her about lily gladstone being nominated and the posibility of a native american actress winning? or about actors of colour who got snubbed like greta lee, fantasia, teo yoo, and charles melton if they wanted to talk about snubs so badly? the whole discourse was just giving white feminism
@honoluluw
@honoluluw 9 ай бұрын
@@julua4220 i would also recommend yhara zayd and kayla says' videos on this, they were great!
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 9 ай бұрын
CONGRATULATIONS TO GARRICK! Such a good writer to have on ‘Rick and Morty’.
@StephanieRamones
@StephanieRamones 9 ай бұрын
Hot take but Kelsey's give it to the veteran schpiel is low key the attitude that keeps a lot of BIPOC from winning awards. It's hard enough for BIPOC to get in the room in the first place and now you're saying they have to be veterans to win (when even then that wont get you the win i.e. Angela Bassett).
@CK-ou3es
@CK-ou3es 9 ай бұрын
kelsey in this episode was really the poster child for white feminist
@Hop3y16
@Hop3y16 9 ай бұрын
@@CK-ou3estruly has been my problem with her since the He’s All That episode. The rant I put under that video speaks for itself.
@stellatuda9508
@stellatuda9508 9 ай бұрын
Yes!!!! I really like her but that was so annoying I mean BIPOC and foreign actors will have this once in a lifetime opportunity, give the best performance of the year and lose because others are white, old and american.
@SakuraPixie
@SakuraPixie 9 ай бұрын
Oh so relieved for Zach’s take on this because I personally became more and more enraged as the upset overshadowed all the other triumphs this Oscar season.
@nimelri
@nimelri 9 ай бұрын
I think the thing that’s missing from the Past Lives conversation is that it is, above everything else, the story of being an immigrant and how that changes you as a person. The movie is really just about her wrestling between who she is and who she could have been. That’s part of what makes it so heartbreaking. Not necessarily just her relationship with her childhood best friend.
@linhsbin
@linhsbin 9 ай бұрын
this so much!!! I feel like most people who aren't immigrants or children of immigrants really overlooked that aspect of the movie. I think that's why the quote “who you are is someone who leaves" hits us so much more because we can relate to it so much more. whether we leave family, friends, lovers, jobs or opportunities behind, we leave a part of ourselves behind.
@primecreator5257
@primecreator5257 9 ай бұрын
God I hated that movie. Literally bland softcore porn for women fantasizing cheating.
@julua4220
@julua4220 9 ай бұрын
I completely agree with Zach in terms of the Greta and Margot outrage. Ryan's performance in the Barbie movie was so obviously more outstanding than Margot's, and even though she was more pivotal to the movie, her performance just wasn't compelling enough to be Oscar-worthy. Those who are upset about Margot and Greta not getting nominated are completely ignoring the fact that this year is an incredible year for women in movies, especially women of color. Just because the movie that is specifically about feminism didn't get nominated for as many awards as people would've liked shouldn't discredit the fact that this was an extremely successful year for feminism in general.
@otter.mayhem
@otter.mayhem 9 ай бұрын
1000000000%, Ryan Gosling was an actual treasure in that movie, I enjoyed his acting more than Margot's, and a lot of his lines and deliveries were improv! Like when Barbie says she'll be Ken's low commitment girlfriend or whatever and he goes around the corner and shouts "SUBLIME!" and then comes back like "ah, cool", that was Ryan's improv! And he SANG and DANCED his heart out, I was so impressed by everything in his performance, like he took the campy fun and didn't just run with it, he embraced it and improved it and made it believable!!! Another standout for me was Simu Liu, he was such a small role but he was just delightful. And I LOVE Margot, I thought she did great lol I will just seize any opportunity to gush over Ryan Gosling's performance in that movie! I need to see more camp and comedy from him in the future, I need it 😂
@eddistasio644
@eddistasio644 9 ай бұрын
Let’s not forget. Oppenheimer the Oscar best picture winner is produced by a woman Emma Thomas
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 9 ай бұрын
@@eddistasio644 Yep, it's as if people truly only care women when they're visible. "If it's not a '💪feminist✨' movie, it's made by/for men" kinda mindset.
@xxAlexixx88
@xxAlexixx88 9 ай бұрын
I completely agree with Zach, Margot got nominated as a producer & Greta Gerwig got nominated as a writer & that’s more appropriate than actor & director noms. I thought when Ryan released a statement, it took away from those amazing accomplishments they still achieved!
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 9 ай бұрын
Same! I feel like Barbie was more a story and production triumphant (convincing Mattel to be on board with the thesis statement of the film is a gargantuan task). The story is novel, the direction isn't Greta's best tbh, Margot had done more craftmanship-level acting.
@B16wally
@B16wally 9 ай бұрын
I am totally with Zach in this one, it's not that Greta and Margot were not good in Barbie they were bested by other directors and actresses in those categories.
@bernaxt
@bernaxt 9 ай бұрын
the whole editors bit of Jonathan checking if Francesca Scorsese still follows him.... I died hahahaha
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 9 ай бұрын
truly heartbreaking
@w.massgurl1863
@w.massgurl1863 9 ай бұрын
His humor is quiet in comparison to the rest of the staff. As he is. But I love that about him.
@ellieisanerd
@ellieisanerd 9 ай бұрын
I think Zach's point of the Barbie nominations and the fact that the directors are against other directors, and Margot being against other actors, and maybe they were #6, but its the top 5 that make it to the Oscars is so important!
@itskaraelizabeth
@itskaraelizabeth 9 ай бұрын
17:23 ZACH! American ferrera didn’t disappear for a decade! She was on superstore which was hilarious
@evildoesnotsleep-x2b
@evildoesnotsleep-x2b 9 ай бұрын
18:41 no, Kelsey, Lily Gladstone won't get to veteran status cause POC don't get offered Oscar worthy parts like their white counterparts, which is exactly why winning now matters!!
@otter.mayhem
@otter.mayhem 9 ай бұрын
The way I feel so proud of Garrick is almost parasocial 😂 but like as a fellow lifelong awkward nerd, it really warms my heart to see his nerdy dreams coming true AND being a huge career landmark!! GO GARRICK!!!
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 9 ай бұрын
Most Likely To Win An Oscar: - Lily Gladstone - Garrick Bernard
@vatsalsanwaria537
@vatsalsanwaria537 9 ай бұрын
Bilkul
@FlagCutie
@FlagCutie 9 ай бұрын
One question for Kelsey, did you think Oppenheimer was a movie about the bomb, or about the actual scientist himself? That definitely changes things. I have heard a few people saying it was TOO long because they were expecting a story about the creation of the bomb, but it wasn't. The movie was literally about the guy, the bomb was just part of his life story. Just my two cents.
@mariapaularinconhoyos1688
@mariapaularinconhoyos1688 9 ай бұрын
“I don’t really care about the third act of Oppenheimer” is such an American thing to say. Is giving: let me watch the bomb and not the consequences.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 9 ай бұрын
Imo the film should just be the third act lol it’s one of those subjects that should only be a documentary or book
@evildoesnotsleep-x2b
@evildoesnotsleep-x2b 9 ай бұрын
This
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 9 ай бұрын
Nice to see Eugene’s Stepdad in the studio. Eugene and Jonathan in one episode plz
@karenesq419
@karenesq419 9 ай бұрын
i second this
@hoolianalopez
@hoolianalopez 9 ай бұрын
America Ferrera’s first role ever was in Real Women Have Curves (an absolutely beautiful film) and then of course Disney’s Gotta Kick It Up. She’s BEEN that girl.
@311Koala
@311Koala 9 ай бұрын
So glad we started with that, because more people need to have Zach's take 💖
@yarns8117
@yarns8117 9 ай бұрын
Jonathans summary of all of us strangers makes it sound WAY better than i thought the trailers made it seem like he was lying to his boyfriend about his parents being dead
@shannonkelly1993
@shannonkelly1993 9 ай бұрын
It's a movie that's hard to discuss without spoiling, but it's a great watch and definitely worth seeing if you get the chance.
@elizahlopez
@elizahlopez 9 ай бұрын
tbh i agree with zack about the barbie nomination discourse, BIG ON THE CAR COMMERCIAL PART. ALSO need rainie and jonathan together, we need chaos ❤
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 9 ай бұрын
THE RAINIE SLANDER WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
@adriennecgomez
@adriennecgomez 9 ай бұрын
KELSEY HOW DARE YOU PAST LIVES IS SUCH A WONDERFUL FILM!!!!!
@torijeri
@torijeri 9 ай бұрын
society of the snow is one of the best films i’ve ever SEEN! Zach you NEED to watch it, the sound design should’ve been nominated for this and you’ll see why when you watch. Absolutely amazing film
@reyajamison7313
@reyajamison7313 8 ай бұрын
I really need a whole episode on The Iron Claw and how underrated it is.
@jasminec3092
@jasminec3092 9 ай бұрын
can you guys PLEASEEEEE do Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants (I ABSOLUTELY LOVE that movie and America Ferrera in it)
@cye4mouri
@cye4mouri 9 ай бұрын
Kelsey wants to award for a body of work and not for the best performance of the year, and that is a major problem with the Academy right now.
@MsVanessaSt
@MsVanessaSt 9 ай бұрын
OMG!!! Congratulations Garrick!!! My mouth literally dropped!
@xgreydovex
@xgreydovex 9 ай бұрын
YAY! At first I was so bummed that y'all would be talking about Barbie without Garrick, but SUPER EXCITED that's it's for such a cool reason.
@cassidean6423
@cassidean6423 9 ай бұрын
I love that y'all are coming out of the gate right for the throat, but I especially love both of your individual takes. You both have great points and I love you for it. ITS OSCARS WEEK BABYYY
@virginiaraffaeli8332
@virginiaraffaeli8332 9 ай бұрын
Huge congrats to Garrick for Rick and Morty! Completely agree with Zach on the Barbie Oscar noms. Good film, but it got the nominations it deserved! As you tried to say, the point of Film awards should be celebrating good movies, not films that are commercial successes! (Oppenheimer was a FANTASTIC film, I disagree with Kelsey sorry). Huge Kudos to Zach for also bringing up the role of film in highlighting current social and geopolitical issues🙏 Oh, and thanks Jonathan for saying how boring Napoleon was!
@Andrea-jq2fk
@Andrea-jq2fk 9 ай бұрын
Congratulations Garrick🥳❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥 love your work in the Solar Opposites and Single Drunk Female!!
@__iTimmayy
@__iTimmayy 9 ай бұрын
Kelsey fighting with a plastic plant while Zach is talking. That's it. That's the vibe. And loved seeing a Jonathan appearance! Congrats to Garrick! Love Rick and Morty. I look forward to catching the episode he's writing for! And another congrats to Eugene. So many great things happening for everyone!
@Jeannnzzzz
@Jeannnzzzz 9 ай бұрын
Hi Jonathan! Love the cameo. Miss you Rainie! Would have loved your take on this one!
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. 9 ай бұрын
I mean, I was honestly equally pissed off by Céline Song not nominated as director and Greta Lee (or any of the other cast members) for Best Actress on ‘Past Lives’.
@MegzWegz87
@MegzWegz87 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Zach for perfectly stating my thoughts on the Barbie nominations outrage! Couldn't have said it better :)
@KenVallejos
@KenVallejos 9 ай бұрын
Woooof. Kelsey was so frustrating in the Barbie discussion
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 9 ай бұрын
white feminism in the flesh.
@katiendless
@katiendless 9 ай бұрын
yes this is cillian's first nomination but like giamatti he's been doing incredible work for years. i think they're both the same in terms of "the narrative". it should go to who had the best performance which imo was cillian
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 9 ай бұрын
28 days later was his zenith imo
@Channels208
@Channels208 9 ай бұрын
Pleaseeee make a podcast about POOR THINGS
@ananyagauri5831
@ananyagauri5831 9 ай бұрын
I feel like Jab We Met will be such a perfect movie for the podcast!
@CK-ou3es
@CK-ou3es 9 ай бұрын
omg yes. it is definitely my guilty pleasure
@ananyagauri5831
@ananyagauri5831 9 ай бұрын
@@CK-ou3es darling there is nothing guilty about Jab We Met
@rykeman916
@rykeman916 9 ай бұрын
Y'all should give all of the internationals a shot, they're all stellar
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 9 ай бұрын
Barbie was more a story and production triumphant (convincing Mattel to be on board with the thesis statement of the film is a gargantuan task). The story is novel, the direction isn't Greta's best tbh, Margot had done more craftmanship-level acting.
@rajamims7472
@rajamims7472 9 ай бұрын
54:35 Zac is right! A guy I was hooking up with put Asteroid City on in the background and I literally got distracted because of how amazing it was and then when I got home I watched it again, just cause I needed to see the whole thing!
@ssuuzziiee
@ssuuzziiee 9 ай бұрын
This exact same thing happened to me months ago lmao
@abbylynne9798
@abbylynne9798 9 ай бұрын
American fiction is incredible. It’s funny, heartwarming at times, heart wrenching at other, and so so witty. Really parallels the stereotype of black stories with what could be a real black story. Beautiful
@Roneish1996
@Roneish1996 9 ай бұрын
The fact Zach missed a chance to sing take you granted like Gosling when talking about Wes Anderson is mind blowing.
@FlagCutie
@FlagCutie 9 ай бұрын
So funny, I'm usually of the opposite opinion from Zach, but this episode he seems to be taking the thoughts out of my head 😂 I enjoyed Oppenheimer and think it is indeed the better movie, but I am SO glad Barbie was as bright and colorful as it was, instead of all dark and Nolan-y!
@amandajunecesarano7423
@amandajunecesarano7423 9 ай бұрын
In the Barbie discourse, people aren’t acknowledging that the Oscars routinely disfavors both comedies and box office hits. It was impressive that Ryan and America got the nominations. Also, when people talk about the movie Amadeus, they don’t talk about Mozart, they talk about Salieri. Because he was the most interesting and unique part of that movie, like Ryan in Barbie.
@shannnon598
@shannnon598 9 ай бұрын
I saw ACOTAR on the table and now I just wanna know Kelsey’s review on that
@maggiewhitaker9486
@maggiewhitaker9486 9 ай бұрын
PLEASE do an episode on Kangaroo Jack I beg you!! It was one of my favorites growing up and everyone I ask these days haven't seen it and it honestly deserves so much better.
@Hillary429
@Hillary429 9 ай бұрын
41:06 WAVES!!!! 🌊 Omg that movie broke me open, such a heartbreaker ❤️‍🩹
@nicolesmith2982
@nicolesmith2982 9 ай бұрын
Okay also where was the love for Priscilla? That movie and Sofia Coppola was so good Movies that were largely snubbed this year that were so good: -Priscilla -Society of the Snow -All of Us Strangers -Iron Claw -Perfect Days -Origin
@malahape
@malahape 9 ай бұрын
hot take: barbie is a good movie but people make it better than what it is because what it means for them. it is so difficult to explain but watching the film from a different perspective of feminism, patriarchy and writing - it is just a movie that was okay. it doesn't feel like a film but rather a long theme with random characters populating it.
@meikusje
@meikusje 9 ай бұрын
And its feminist message is rather superficial and unoriginal. I heard someone describe it as 'feminism for kids', and I think that's a good way to describe it. I don't think that's a bad thing either, and I don't think it's a bad movie, but in terms of both cinematic quality and feminist message, there are better movies. I'd go so far as to say that Birds of Prey, another Margot Robbie movie, is a better feminist movie, and Margot Robbie's performance as Harley Quinn in it is far more interesting and better than her performance as Barbie.
@alexisreve1
@alexisreve1 9 ай бұрын
6:40 1000% agreed, thank you. Margot Robbie was good in the movie, but her performance was not of "best actress" quality.
@arielle.notthemermaid
@arielle.notthemermaid 9 ай бұрын
So happy to intersect this podcast after watching 3 of the most talked off entries (op, barbie, poor things + past lives) Just one slight note ... I would love to hear Garrick's thoughts!!
@valp1705
@valp1705 9 ай бұрын
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE BARBIE CAME OUT 😭😭
@ashleylundquist8795
@ashleylundquist8795 9 ай бұрын
I am an Anthropologist and I love this podcast. I study in the Amazon and have a lot to say about Madame Web. Please reach out if you plan on reviewing Madame Web.
@coripayton17
@coripayton17 9 ай бұрын
I've started to notice something about Zach. Not just this podcast episode, but over the course of multiple episodes from this podcast and The TryPod. Whenever he is passionate about something (whether it be something he is agreeing with or disagreeing with), he doesn't let others speak. He talks over people or cuts others off. That's just something I've noticed.
@tavl1722
@tavl1722 9 ай бұрын
It was hard to concentrate on the first 5 mins of this because I was too busy being jealous of Zach’s Benito sweater 😭😂🖤
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 9 ай бұрын
Zach's outfit game has been on fire lately, I'm seriously taking notes.
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 9 ай бұрын
My biggest criticism of Barbie is the "let's make Kens jealous" being the ultimate solution. I hate that trope anyway, it makes the characters instantly feel one-dimensional. But it also made the third act feel like it needed a few more revisions. It feels like Greta and Noah had a solid beginning and middle but ran out because the production started.
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 9 ай бұрын
But that’s why it was meta imo. Cuz they’re childish, they’re distracting the Kens from what really matters, they’re all still playing pretend and ultimately fighting over plastic. It wouldn’t be a mature ending, something an adult would expect, but something absurd.
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 9 ай бұрын
@nailinthefashion Fair enough. That theory could also imply that the whole story could also be orchestrated as if it's just another doll play time.
@taryntroxel6588
@taryntroxel6588 9 ай бұрын
JUSTINE TRIET FOR THE WIN!!! Thank you Zach! I’m prepared to flip cars if she doesn’t win.
@melneth3119
@melneth3119 9 ай бұрын
Here's the thing about RDJ. We ALL know he should have won for Iron man back in the day but the snooty old judges generally ignore science fiction, comedy, horror and fantasy films. If you look 90 percent of the movies that get nominated are dramas. Return of the king only won because of HUGE pressure from fans when they dissed the other films in the series. This is why viewership of the awards is going down every year. Honestly I generally haven't heard of or are bored to death by half the movies that get nominated. I'd rather go by the rotten tomatoes score or imdb because that's how many real people liked the movie. I mean think about it what dramas do you remember from the 80s? I bet you remember aliens and ghostbusters though.
@eddistasio644
@eddistasio644 9 ай бұрын
Iron man wasn’t an Oscar worthy performance. Chaplin was though
@melneth3119
@melneth3119 9 ай бұрын
@@eddistasio644 Chaplin was a drama so I think you missed my point and a lot of people would disagree on iron man.
@alottadot.
@alottadot. 9 ай бұрын
Please do an ep on lost city bc Sandra bullock and Channing Tatum were so funny and so serious and unserious
@chloejiggins
@chloejiggins 9 ай бұрын
Love that film!
@crisencrypted_ytv
@crisencrypted_ytv 9 ай бұрын
here for Zach's Wes Anderson rant
@kaybug689
@kaybug689 9 ай бұрын
44:56 Jonathan’s edit 😂😂
@honoluluw
@honoluluw 9 ай бұрын
timestamps for my favourite parts of this episode 22:50 - 24:50 zach on how barbie is about expectations put on little boys and girls 33:26 - 35:53 zach's analysis? on why oppenheimer's hearing had to be part of the film, how oppenheimer wants to be multiple contradicting things at once 35:53 - 37:17 the theory that christopher nolan thinks he is the film industry's oppenheimer because he "destroyed cinema" due to his contribution to superhero movies (the dark knight) lmao 46:15 - 47:03 zach talking about past lives 52:08 - 52:45 how dope it would be if the zone of interest wins and the crew takes the opportunity to talk about the palestinian genocide during the speech 52:45 - 53:45 the zone of interest filming technique making the film feel like found footage (something interesting i wanna keep in mind when watching the film later) 54:32 - 57:34 wes anderson appreciation!! 58:54 - 59:05 napoleon slander which i live for 1:00:07 - 1:00:54 nimona nomination!! meaning eugene nomination + kelsey just now realising that eugene is in an oscar nominated film really appreciated a lot of zach's thoughts in this one
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 9 ай бұрын
tysm! 🫡
@honoluluw
@honoluluw 9 ай бұрын
@@cheesecakelasagna ywyw!
@Hillary429
@Hillary429 9 ай бұрын
42:22 justice for snoop! He carried that movie on his back, I wouldn’t have made it through that movie if it wasn’t for that good boy 🐶
@rosepose92
@rosepose92 9 ай бұрын
31:19 "He made a great movie that mattered to a lot of people." is an interesting argument FOR Oppenheimer but not other movies on the list, Zach...
@katiendless
@katiendless 9 ай бұрын
re: barbie- exactly zach!!!!
@no_emi
@no_emi 9 ай бұрын
I'm just gonna leave here a shout-out to "Perfect Days" in the best internation feature category! It's a heartwarming film about an old man who cleans Tokyo's toilets and honestly, I just really want to see Wim Wenders win an Oscar!!💗
@dangerousdandelions
@dangerousdandelions 9 ай бұрын
Actually, everyone was spitting facts this episode, i have no disagreement. I hope yall have seen dune 2 because I NEED to hear your discussion about it
@maritzai0322
@maritzai0322 9 ай бұрын
I guess my take is, I don't expect Margo or Greta to win but I did expect a nomination at least for director.
@serildamoody5868
@serildamoody5868 9 ай бұрын
Question: When did they actually talk about Lily Gladstone? Killers of the Flower Moon and Lily were barely talked about during this.
@nickim63
@nickim63 9 ай бұрын
I wish they had saved the Oscar discussion for a separate episode and just talked about Barbie here
@whereyoubean
@whereyoubean 9 ай бұрын
44:53 omy sorry jonathan 😂
@hj45-s9k
@hj45-s9k 9 ай бұрын
No, I loved Barbie as much as the next woman but it already won the world stage with the box office win. I’m happy for America and think she deserves her win but Lily Gladstone deserves her moment in the sun for best lead more than Margot
@CBRBASS
@CBRBASS 9 ай бұрын
Most helpful episode of the year! Please keep doing this!
@oohihavecookies9377
@oohihavecookies9377 9 ай бұрын
I'm not really a movie person and I've never been interested in the oscars. but damn I guess I gotta go watch some of these movies now because sour analysis of what makes them so great makes them sound amazing
@ToriForrest
@ToriForrest 8 ай бұрын
I so appreciate the Killer’s of a Flower Moon note from Zach! The book is in the perspective of Molly and the victims, and the storyline is so much more interesting when told from her view. Side note: this actually took place 10 min from my home town and I never learned about it until 10 years after I moved out of Oklahoma and read the book. Definitely a story that needed to be told, just wish the film wasn’t in the white man’s perspective.
@adyaarora862
@adyaarora862 9 ай бұрын
when u say barbie was saved by greta, it was saved by her writing not the direction
@abbybottar2297
@abbybottar2297 3 ай бұрын
I am not a movie lover, but I LOVED Anatomy of a Fall. It was breathtaking. But Barbie changed my life. Would have loved to see Greta get nominated too.
@stephanielastname8271
@stephanielastname8271 9 ай бұрын
i agree kelsey ballad of songbirds and snakes should have been nominated, at very least for music!! i thought rachel was fantastic
@adrianpink8144
@adrianpink8144 9 ай бұрын
I love Barbie but I agree with Zach bc I hate that America’s nomination is ignored bc of people focusing on Margot and Greta.
@hannahlarson4184
@hannahlarson4184 9 ай бұрын
Zach’s opinion actually has changed my mind. Barbie was a good movie but there are more challenging movies to direct and act in they deserved the recognition. Barbie wasn’t the only good movie out this year
@CamilleTheChameleon
@CamilleTheChameleon 9 ай бұрын
Maestro was absolutely beautiful and made me sob, sorry y'all hot take 😂
@sonne5367
@sonne5367 9 ай бұрын
Let record show i need yall to do Lisa Frankenstein so so bad
@kamccomb16
@kamccomb16 9 ай бұрын
I would take out Annette Bening and still not nominate Margot Robbie, I’d put in Greta Lee or Fantasia Barrino
@honoluluw
@honoluluw 9 ай бұрын
god past lives really got snubbed soo badly
@mistyquest7560
@mistyquest7560 9 ай бұрын
Facts
@kassiesconcepts3276
@kassiesconcepts3276 9 ай бұрын
I also agree with Zach completely
@whereyoubean
@whereyoubean 9 ай бұрын
Jonathan! Hell yeah ❤ 1:50
@brandylynn3056
@brandylynn3056 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for including Palestine in your discussion about Zone of Interest, I’m hoping to see the movie this weekend in theatres! It’s so important to take historical movies and put them into modern day perspectives, I think that’s the whole point of movies in general, bringing them into the real world in some way. Appreciated hearing you guys talk about it. I would like to add my two cents about Barbie, when I saw the nominations I initially had the reaction that Kelsey had, and honestly I’m not a movie buff and Barbie is one of the only movies I’ve seen on the Oscar list, but I do think that being so obbsessed with Greta and Margot not getting the “correct” nominations is a very white feminist take on the issue and it’s something I’ve had to correct myself on. I also feel like Barbie isn’t even that feminist of a movie. Don’t get me wrong I loved the movie so much but the whole point is that Barbie and Ken’s, Women and Men, can’t exist in a world where one has more sway over the other, and THAT makes it a feminist movie because it’s about equality of the sexes but I get annoyed when people think the movie is only about Barbie and Women only because they think that feminism is about lifting women over men when that isn’t true. So yea I had to get over it and admit to myself that Ryan Gosling did do a better job than Margot Robbie and that’s okay!! I was lowkey holding my breath and super apprehensive when Zach was giving his opinion but I honestly agree with what he had to say. However, I would’ve like some commentary on how Barbie was treated at the Golden Globes. I look forward to this podcast episode every year even if I haven’t seen all the movies and would love a part 2 with Rainie and Garrick!!
@alexconverse4839
@alexconverse4839 9 ай бұрын
Okay we have to acknowledge that one of the biggest reasons that Oppenheimer did well at the box office BECAUSE of Barbenheimer
@claudi6398
@claudi6398 9 ай бұрын
I NEED u guys to review anyone but you.
@randomriley1440
@randomriley1440 9 ай бұрын
I loved Asteroid City but I did watch it high the first time and that alien jump scare messed me up for the rest of the night
@mistyquest7560
@mistyquest7560 9 ай бұрын
The "52% of people don't give a fuck about Oppenheimer" comment from Kelsey is wild to me. Assuming she means women... women definitely do care about the implications of nuclear proliferation... Does she just mean that there aren't enough women in the movie to relate to?
@nailinthefashion
@nailinthefashion 9 ай бұрын
The audience breakdowns were generally male and white lol it’s clearly the target demographic. Meanwhile Barbie is a party everyone was invited to, thus it made more money. Everyone cares about nuclear war, but, we already know it’s bad and think it never should have gone there ….. that’s what she means. There’s no need to tread that beaten path in a biopic imo
@zoejohnson7596
@zoejohnson7596 9 ай бұрын
Haha more Oscar episode with Rick when he isn’t fulfilling a childhood dream and needing to change a tire??? Please?? These episodes are so fun and I hate that he missed it
@clayton_renee
@clayton_renee 9 ай бұрын
Its so weird listening to this after the oscars and them not knowing the results
@caytieee
@caytieee 9 ай бұрын
The Oscar’s is next week…?
@rosepose92
@rosepose92 9 ай бұрын
I get that the Oscars is about ~the art of film~ but Hollywood/city people cannot continue acting surprised by outrage about nominations when they don't deem their ~art~ worthy enough to be seen by everyone. I live in a town of 20,000 people with 6 movie theaters within an hour of here. Poor Things played in 1 theater, once a day, for 2 weeks. Zone of Interest, Past Lives, and Anatomy of a Fall didn't play ANYWHERE. So why should we care about those films if we weren't given the chance to appreciate them???
@maggiewalker95
@maggiewalker95 9 ай бұрын
I desperately need dune 2 as soon as humanly possible
@jbblue48089
@jbblue48089 9 ай бұрын
I liked Robbie’s acting but for me she didn’t disappear into the role. Neither did Tyra Banks in Life-Size. They’re fun roles but not necessarily good enough for an Oscar.
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