Should Christians Keep the Sabbath? --A National Debate With Jim Staley & Chris Rosebrough

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In this engaging debate between evangelical Messianic Pastor Jim Staley and Lutheran radio talk show host Chris Rosebrough, centuries-long questions about Sabbath in Christianity are unraveled. Should Christians today keep the Sabbath? Does God expect His people to remember the Sabbath today?
This debate unravels two different perspectives on whether the Sabbath is Sunday or Saturday. What does the Bible say about whether or not Christians should honor the Sabbath day and the 4th commandment?
Join Pastor Jim and Chris as they debate the topic of the Sabbath day.
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1. Jim Staley’s Opening Statement (8:54)
2. Chris Rosebrough Opening Statement (28:50)
3. Jim Staley 10-minute rebuttal (48:26)
4. Chris Rosebrough 10-minute rebuttal (58:49)
5. Jim Staley 7-minute rebuttal (1:08:34)
6. Chris Rosebrough 7-minute rebuttal (1:15:53)
7. Jim Staley 10-minute cross-examination (1:22:16)
8. Chris Rosebrough 10-minute cross-examination (1:32:47)
9. Chris Rosebrough Closing Statements (1:43:12)
10. Jim Staley Closing Statements (1:46:47)
11. Joseph Farah Closing Statements (1:51:17)
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@lilia6201
@lilia6201 6 ай бұрын
We just kept our first Sabbath this past Saturday. It felt good and right. We’ll continue to follow God’s Sabbath that he gifted to us. Praise God 🙏🏽
@terrygreenman1540
@terrygreenman1540 6 ай бұрын
Congratulations. Did you follow your first Sabbath as stated in Exodus 16;29. Did you remain at your home for that 24 hour period? Or did you break this command by going to "church" and other destinations such as drive to a park? *Everyone is to stay where he is on the seventh day; no one is to go out.* What does this part mean?
@MatthewPress-b9c
@MatthewPress-b9c 6 ай бұрын
Godless Religion is impresses self and others but NOT God.😅😊
@bradrininger848
@bradrininger848 6 ай бұрын
You will find there is much more to the 4th commandment than most talk about. 1. It is the only day God made Holy. 2. It was made for man, not man for the sabbath. 3. It contains God's seal between Himself and mankind. ( A seal always contains 3 points. The Name, the Title and the jurisdiction. Remember: this is a Holy Day of worshipping our Creator. Honoring Him. The very thing satan was coveting, desiring and extremely jealous about. The satanic push to change the sabbath confirms satan trying to appoint his own day of worship. Most do not understand this because bible prophecy is not studied. Don't take my word for it. Study it out for yourself.
@bradrininger848
@bradrininger848 6 ай бұрын
​@terrygreenman1540 where do you find "one must stay home on sabbath? Please explain
@terrygreenman1540
@terrygreenman1540 6 ай бұрын
@@bradrininger848 have you ever read Exodus 16:29? Commandment @24 of 613 of Torah "Bear in mind that the LORD has given you the Sabbath; that is why on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Everyone is to stay where he is on the seventh day; no one is to go out." And if so, what do you make of it?
@aileanjames233
@aileanjames233 Жыл бұрын
I was Sunday worshiper Now I become a Sabbath keeper Now 🙏 I found it very interesting to keep God Sabbath 🙏 I love it because I feel like am worshiping the right day in the Santurary ,,, my heart mind and soul are free Now cause am walking in the truth
@Yah150
@Yah150 Жыл бұрын
Shalom! Many Hebrew Israelites have been led into believing that Sunday is the right day of worship, not knowing that the Roman and Gentiles leaders changed the Shabbat to Sunday in order to celebrate the Sun gods. The Church tried to holds that they observe Sunday as Jesus’ resurrection day, but if that was the case, then, their “Jesus” would be risen in less that two days after His crucifixion. Because sundown to the next sundown is one day, it is not possible to get three days base on what the Scriptures said about YAHOSHUAH’S death, burial and resurrection. Dr. Moreh Yeshu
@Yah150
@Yah150 Жыл бұрын
You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.
@andrewchurney8864
@andrewchurney8864 Жыл бұрын
@@Yah150 what are you a Doctor of? Obviously it is not theology. It is common knowledge that the ancient Jews considered that any part of a day constituted a whole day when using a phrase like Jesus did reoeatedly "in 3 days I will rise". Jesus died about 3 in the afternoon on Friday, was in the grave all day Saturday, and rose in the morning on Sunday. In the Jewish reckoning, this was "3 days". It is foolish and ignorant in the extreme to employ your argument. This is a matter of change of Covenant and what the Apostles taught and practiced, as the Gospel was committed to them, not to you or I. Paul was far more an expert on this subject than anyone alive today, and he clearly refutes this Sabbath continuation idea, ss well as the practice of all Jewish ceremonial laws and customs. Jesus is the end of the Law for all who believes in Him. It is not helpful to use the Law for any purpose than to reveal sin to the lost and unrefenerate. It is a schoolmaster to lead one to Christ. The Spirit then empowers one by Grace to Agape Love that exceeds the righteousness of the Law. Anyone who studies Galatians and Hebrews could never be deceived into being a Sabbatarian.
@shiningstar3312
@shiningstar3312 Жыл бұрын
@@NowayJose-d3b Sorry but u r condemned by not desiring to study for urself. The 7th day Sabbath cocoons the entire GOSPEL of Jesus. Study to show urself approved unto God. Also Galations unequivocally states that we are ALL Israel in Jesus. Revelation 22 states that u CANNOT enter heaven without keeping Gods commandments. U have been deceived by the Jesuit counter reformation interpretation of Gods Word. Keeping Gods commandments is rhe manifestation of the Spirit within.
@shiningstar3312
@shiningstar3312 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewchurney8864 Suggestion: Go back to ur studies Andrew.Romans 3:31 "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law".....The NEW COVENANT/GOSPEL of JESUS IS Law in Heart and mind. Heb 8 and 10ie: Holy Spirit MANIFESTING Gods Holy Commandments. Sorry, but u aint going to heaven b/c u have no Holy Spirit states Revelation 22:14
@bethanycordero8181
@bethanycordero8181 3 ай бұрын
Yes Jim Staley! Standing up for truth! This is the best Sabbath debate I've ever heard and I've kept Sabbath since I was 8 years old and my parents found the way. Read your Bible. Pray. Come out of her my people Amen!
@bjlong5204
@bjlong5204 3 ай бұрын
Walter Veith is really more complete and thorough covering all the standard and weird opposition.
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 3 ай бұрын
What Jim Stanley ? Debating yah's truth?A Ai have not spoken to no other nation psalm i47 Amos 3. What was he saying ? The Sabbath was made for man? In six days he made heaven and earth for s d a or man so he can remove Israel. Yes yes gentle man you believe Isreal will never be a nation again and replace it What else The world Remember is for the whole world ?he asked Israel to remember the Sabbath he taught them in exodus 16 and reminded them in 20. But Jim what what why are you robing the lambs ? Speak the word truthfully The Messiah did not teach you Sabbath it was his tradition as a Jew you are a stranger or foreign or joiner wait on isiah 56
@bekangreppachuau4561
@bekangreppachuau4561 2 ай бұрын
I am 7 day and I keep the sabbath the GOD bless day
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 2 ай бұрын
so what? I bet you also didn't murder anyone. Good for you. Romans 10:6 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. . You seem to be doing just the opposite. You want to be justified by holy days and spread the word of how great you keep the Sabbath. Make no mistake. Paul is clear. Christians are saved by faith not by practices and those true believers share the Good News of Jesus Christ not bragging about the Sabbath.
@bekangreppachuau4561
@bekangreppachuau4561 2 ай бұрын
@@metathoughts732 so what...dont try to explain the Bible like how u like just follow it .... so u say GOD the father and the son are wrong for keeping the sabbath... So u accept roman Catholic come from Rome the sun GOD teaching Sunday the sun worshiping day or God the father Saturday sabbath which one u chose
@yvonnezackery4080
@yvonnezackery4080 5 ай бұрын
Acts 5:29 We ought to OBEY GOD rather than MEN!!! 😢
@loren719
@loren719 3 ай бұрын
@@ThomasDickensheets Jesus was the Son of man, and the Son of God.... and we ought to Obey God rather than men (Acts 5:29)
@DanHutchings-xx7ug
@DanHutchings-xx7ug 3 ай бұрын
@@ThomasDickensheets He was God in the flesh see John 1:14-16
@DanHutchings-xx7ug
@DanHutchings-xx7ug 3 ай бұрын
@@ThomasDickensheets Your choice....no skin off my nose as to what you do.
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 2 ай бұрын
@@yvonnezackery4080 you sound like a baby. You don't know the depth of these establishments . you are not the problem These leaders are not build on truth The are glad to eat up the happy one Yes the Sabbath is a joy You can keep it but the root need to be understood You must rightly divide can't take what Belong to someone else and glory your self into it being unthankful as if someone spoke to you it evil
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 2 ай бұрын
@@yvonnezackery4080 ? ? ? There are gods many and lords many many deceivers has gone into the world
@edb.8388
@edb.8388 Жыл бұрын
A very good debate. I was a Pentecostal Christian for 20+ years and know how difficult it was to come out of tradition, which is the case for a majority of Christians. Only through Bible study and Holy Spirit guidance does one truly understand and keep the Sabbath. Part of the Three Angels message in Revelation is a warning to God’s professed people to come out of Babylon (confusion and false system of worship).
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 Жыл бұрын
@@kac0404 quote---Keeping the sabbath was part of the law that Christ took away. “He . . . canceled out the certificate of death consisting of decrees against us . . .; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. --unquote OBVIOUSLY you have NOT read the Bible!! The women follerss kept the Sabbath that Friday night --Lukr 23:56 ALL the disciples kept the Sabbath in acts!!! That means Jesus is a SINNNER!! He NEGLECTED to tell anyone the Sabbath was abolished at the cross!!! That means Jesus is a sinner by ommision!!! NOT qualified to be our savior!!! ----
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 Жыл бұрын
@@kac0404 quote-- But what does that really prove?:--unquote IT proves they obeyed God!@!@! ---quote---The disciples didn't yet understand that ALL OF THE CEREMONIAL LAW OF MOSES WOULD BE ABOLISHED!!!--unquote Nope--Not all!!! Many Jews STILL keep all of them!!! btw---THe Sabbath Commandment was NOT a cermonial law!!! That would make ALL the Commandments a ceremony. --You seem to think the only reason they kept the Sabbath was becsuse taught them. What is your problem? THey were ALL JEWS!!!! FRom the day they were born, the OT was read to them. THey attended church every Sabbath. THEY KNEW when the Sabbath is!!! BY age 14, they are considered an adult after going through a ritual. THey MUST be able to recite from the OT whatever the Rabbis wants, WORD FOR WORD!!! With NO beads to help them remember!!!
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 Жыл бұрын
@@kac0404 quote---What does Acts 21:26 mean? To prove to legalistic Jewish Christians that Paul still reveres the Mosaic law, the elders of the church in Jerusalem have asked him to help four men complete what was likely a Nazirite vow. A Nazirite vow is a voluntary, temporary commitment to total dedication to God. The adherents, in this case men, abstain from anything made from grapes and do not cut their hair. At the end of their vow, they must present a sacrifice and shave their heads. If they become unclean, particularly by accidentally contacting a corpse, they must go through an eight-day cleansing ritual and restart their time (Numbers 6:1-21). Since the men's purification takes seven days (Acts 21:27), some scholars think this is a reset-the difference between eight and seven days may be because Luke counts days in the Greek way and not the Hebrew way. But the offering for a reset is merely two birds each; eight birds wouldn't cost much. The offering to fulfill the vow includes a female lamb, a male lamb, a ram, unleavened bread, loaves of bread, crackers, oil, and a grain and drink offering. Such an expense for four men would go a long way in proving Paul's devotion to the Law and be a sacrifice for someone who supports himself on the field (Acts 18:2-3; 1 Corinthians 9:4-7; 1 Thessalonians 2:9). Paul arrived in Jerusalem with several men-Jews and Gentiles-who came from modern-day Turkey, Greece, and Macedonia. He presents money collected by their home churches for the church in Jerusalem (Acts 20:4). One of these is Trophimus from the city of Ephesus in Asia, the large district in western Turkey. At some point in this week, Jews from Asia see Paul with Trophimus in the city. When they later see Paul in the temple, they assume Trophimus is with him. Legally, Trophimus is allowed to be outside the temple, in the court of Gentiles. To bring an uncircumcised Gentile into the temple is against the Mosaic law and, since it would be the defilement of a religious structure, it is also against the Roman law. The false witnesses accuse Paul as he stands amidst the temple crowd. The people beat him, and the tribune of the Roman outpost arrests him (Acts 21:27-36). ------As I have said b4--The sabbath feasts WERE abolished at the cross. NOT the Jewish laws of purification!!! Nor many others!! Sabbth feasts days-POINTING to the sacrifice of Christ!!! I NEVER said ALL the 613 laws were abolished!! --quote--- Animal Sacrifices: Acts 21:26--unquote-- ESV Then Paul took the men, and the next day he purified himself along with them and went into the temple, giving notice when the days of purification would be fulfilled and the offering presented for each one of them. As i said--the purification laws WERE NOT abolished. ----quote---Circumcision: Acts 16:3 Paul recognized God's favor on Timothy's life and wanted him to accompany them in ministry, but Paul had Timothy circumcised first because of the significant Jewish community living in the region, and everyone knew that Timothy's father wasn't a Jew. ---Was Timothy a Jew?? YES!!! But, gentiles DO NOT need to be circumsized!!! -----quote---Temple worship: Acts 24:12--unquote 13 Nor can they prove the things of which they now accuse me. 14 But this I confess to you, that according to the Way which they call a sect, so I worship the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets. ---What is the problem there?? btw--He does NOT say anything about worship in the temple!!! He keeps the Laws--many were given ONLY to the Jews and knows what the prophets said!!!
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 Жыл бұрын
How do you keep the Sabbath? Exodus 35
@midlandsdirectory3699
@midlandsdirectory3699 Жыл бұрын
​@kac0404 We don't keep it to BE saved. We keep it because we ARE saved and want to please Him.
@christinarhodius7211
@christinarhodius7211 Жыл бұрын
Pastor Jim used the Word, the Bible where Chris Rosebrough mainly used uninspired men's writings. Good debate . Thank you Pastor Jim for standing up for the truth.
@emmacarter6792
@emmacarter6792 Жыл бұрын
Yes! His inability to stick to scripture screamed at me l, how desperately he’s trying to fit his narrative. He also twisted scripture when speaking about the holy days and feasts being a shadow of things to come
@leoniebailey754
@leoniebailey754 Жыл бұрын
It's God's word against man's word and interpretation
@justthink8952
@justthink8952 Жыл бұрын
The question is who made sense. God is the God of the universe. His day and night is not confined to the sun light and shadow of the earth which causes our day and night. You go to the moon. Your day and night will no longer be 24 hours. But then wherever you are, you are supposed to observe Sabbath from sunset to sunset. For a start, if you are in US, you go to Norway and try to observe the Sabbath there especially from the month of April till August. Have a great time resting there by observing the Sabbath. By the time you return, your business will no longer remain the same due to non operation for months.
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 Жыл бұрын
@@emmacarter6792 quote--- He also twisted scripture when speaking about the holy days and feasts being a shadow of things to come.--unquote That is EXACTLY what they were. ALL pointing to the coming of Jesus and His sacrifice!!!
@SeanusAurelius
@SeanusAurelius Жыл бұрын
@@mitchellosmer1293 They were a shadow, and as per all the other shadows, are not a part of the New Covenant. Look at Hebrews: Moses -> not part of the New Covenant, replaced by Jesus. (Servant -> Son) The OT sanctuary -> not part of the New Covenant, replaced by Jesus. (Building -> God's son) The Levitical priesthood -> not part of the New Covenant, replaced by Jesus. (Levi's priesthood -> Melchizedek's priesthood) The Sabbath -> Not part of the New Covenant, replaced by Jesus. (Day of Rest -> Believer's rest).
@zaklinamilikj4894
@zaklinamilikj4894 Жыл бұрын
No one can change what God said.
@inchristalone25
@inchristalone25 Жыл бұрын
Of course not, Christians understand the law was a foreshadowing of what was to come, Christ. As stated by Paul. “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ” (Colossians 2:16-17)
@uselemikingsleyedum7937
@uselemikingsleyedum7937 Жыл бұрын
@@inchristalone25 If truly you know and understand the scriptures as you presume, then please answer these seven (7) questions without skipping any one. 1. Is there a substance without a shadow? 2. Is a shadow not a reflection of the substance? 3. Why did the Gentiles on the Sabbath day plead with the Apostles to rehearse the words that they’ve heard again to them on the next Sabbath day as recorded in Acts 13: 42, 44 if they were not observing the Sabbath even when Christ has died, resurrected and ascended up to heaven? And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. Acts 13:42 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God. Acts 13:44 4. Why will all flesh, all mankind come to worship before God from one Sabbath to another in the new heavens and in the new earth as recorded in Isaiah 66:22-23 if the Sabbath is no longer valid? For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. Isaiah 66:22 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. Isaiah 66:23 5. Why did Jesus say that the Sabbath was made for man as recorded in Mark 2:27 if not for the benefit of man? And He said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Mark 2:27 6. Does being Lord over something mean that it is no longer valid? Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. Mark 2:28 7. If the law nor the Sabbath is no longer valid, why then is a righteous man not lawless nor disobedient according to 1 Timothy 1:9-10? Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 1 Timothy 1:9 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 1 Timothy 1:10
@uselemikingsleyedum7937
@uselemikingsleyedum7937 Жыл бұрын
@@Elizabeth-rk3do ​ ​ ​ I gave a condition that if @JanelleH knows and understands the scriptures as he/she claims, then he/she should answer all the 7 questions without skipping anyone. Besides, it wasn’t you that I directed those 7 questions to. Have you answered all the 7 questions in my response to @JanelleH? You are attempting to say things and answer questions that you have no proper Biblical knowledge nor understanding. This is how people fail in exams.
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 7 ай бұрын
@@inchristalone25 the gentiles were without God in the world , they had no law.paul said ,do not trouble the gentiles but let them refrain from god worship , blood s,ect read Romans 11isreal fell not beyond recovery no one dear take their place or replace . salvation is of the Jews , Zachariah 8. People from nations will say I will go with you because the almighty is with you the people of law the chosen , the children of Israel the people of the book .so gentiles so playing your 🎮 game time up put the book away . have you no fear?
@rovenclark1293
@rovenclark1293 7 ай бұрын
@@inchristalone25 -Sacrificial of lamb was the shadow of Jesus death on the cross. No animal sacrificed today. Jesus has died & His own blood covered our sins.
@RuneaUises
@RuneaUises 8 ай бұрын
Please pray for me and my family to make a final decision to start keeping the Sabbath. Pastor Jim. I am Sunday keeper, but your teachings touch my heart . I need help.
@gardysauveur529
@gardysauveur529 8 ай бұрын
Did Jesus and the apostles keep the sabbath? John 5:17-18 17 In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.” 18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 7 ай бұрын
Yes the Messiah kept the Sabbath he a Jew salvation is of the Jew ,as his custom was so read the law and prophets the almighty taught Israel his people he took from the house of bound age exodus how to keep he spoke to no other nations (no church)psalm147 Israel speak to the children of Israel .the Messiah father can do want he want ,how he want Israel listen and obey return oh children of Israel
@carmenbrown7761
@carmenbrown7761 7 ай бұрын
We will be praying for you
@gardysauveur529
@gardysauveur529 7 ай бұрын
@@hannahbowers1469 John 5: 18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 7 ай бұрын
@@gardysauveur529 in Matthew , Messiah said I didn't come to destroy the law and the prophets .if you are an Israeli or a Jew the law of Sabbath is for you if not do as you like join as a stranger .but remember salvation is of juda
@SaborLatino21
@SaborLatino21 Жыл бұрын
It just so happens that today Friday 14th, 2023 is the day that I chose to begin keeping The Sabbath. I must add, that there were doubts in me on whether I should keep The Sabbath or not. But something inside of me kept telling me I should, because it’s part of the Ten Commandments. I kept thinking that if I’m breaking one I’m breaking all of them. But just as soon as I was about to begin my Sabbath, I came across this debate which by the way; it’s the best debate I have witnessed. I truly congratulate these two teachers. They were both fantastic presenting their point of view on The Sabbath. I must say that this debate strengthened my belief of The Sabbath, and Pastor Jim put it in a clearer way for me. I honestly think that our LORD & SAVIOR JESUS wants us to keep all The Ten Commandments. Like Pastor Jim said, how can you not keep The Sabbath? By not keeping The Sabbath your abolishing the other commandments which means we can then murder or commit adultery without being convicted? These laws are the ones keeping us closer to GOD. I believe The Ten Commandments were given to all of us. How can I not keep The Sabbath when GOD himself made it a day of rest and also holy? I will most definitely try my best to serve THE LORD with all my heart, with all my soul, and with all my strength. Keep it Holy, for HE is Holy. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
@docrobinson703
@docrobinson703 Жыл бұрын
May God bless you and keep you and you are on the right track keep going you've got it totally right god bless you so happy for you you made my day❤❤
@PassionForTruthVideo
@PassionForTruthVideo Жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend. You have made my day. That debate was filmed over 10 years ago and I am grateful to the Father that He is still using it today. You won't regret it. He will lead you and bless you for your try. Stay in love and let Him guide you closer to Him every day.
@lydiataylor5415
@lydiataylor5415 Жыл бұрын
​😊thank you for explaining the scriptures so clearly, why would the Sabbath be changed to the 1st day of the week. God's word is the word to live by.
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 Жыл бұрын
@@theTruthwillsetyoufree quote--- Our Lord fulfilled the Sabbath law, for Born-Again people are EVERY DAY HOLY...--unquote Nope--He fulfilled the sacrificial sabbath.-NOT the weekly Sabbath.
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 Жыл бұрын
@@kac0404 quote--THE SABBATH WAS ABOLISHED ----Galatians 3:16-29.--unquote I strongly suggest you read those verses again!!! What was the old covenant?? Promises made by the Israelites that they would keep Gods laws. They did NOT!!!! THe fault was theirs. ----New Covenant--God would write His Laws on their hearts!!! Nothing else changed!!! The ONLY Sabbaths that were abolished were the feast sabbaths- ALL pointing towards the sacrifice of Jesus. The weekly Sabbath pointed BACKWARDS to creation!!! Biblical Feast days They are observed by Jews and a minority of Christians. Two of the shabbath (holy assemblies) occur in spring on the first and last day of the Feast of unleavened bread (Matzot). One occurs in the summer, this is the Feast of Weeks (Shavuot). And four occur in the fall in the seventh month. ----Also, IF the weekly was abolished, then WHY dod the women followers of Jesus keep the Sabbath that Friday evening?? Luke 23_56---ALL the disciples kept the Sabbath in Acts. ALSO. the Sabbath is a PERPETUAL promise to Isreal. Exodus 31:13-14 "Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: "Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you. You shall keep the Sabbath, therefore, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people. Exodus 31:16-17 Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed."" Perpetual---FOREVER--NEVER ENDING!!! --Does God lie, especially to His people??? --------quote--which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, --unquote I suggest you research what the ordinances are that were given to Israel. In the second part of his second speech, Moses describes in detail the “statutes and ordinances” that God charges Israel to obey (Deut. 6:1). These rules deal with a wide array of matters, including war, slavery, tithes, religious festivals, sacrifices, kosher food, prophecy, the monarchy, and the central sanctuary. This material contains several passages that speak directly to the theology of work. We will explore them in their biblical order. In case the commandments, statutes, and ordinances in God’s covenant might come to seem like nothing but a burden to Israel, Moses reminds us that their primary purpose is to bless us. If you heed these ordinances, by diligently observing them, the Lord your God will maintain with you the covenant loyalty that he swore to your ancestors; he will love you, bless you, and multiply you; he will bless the fruit of your womb and the fruit of your ground, your grain and your wine and your oil, the increase of your cattle and the issue of your flock, in the land that he swore to your ancestors to give you. (Deut. 7:12-13) If you obey the Lord your God: Blessed shall you be in the city, and blessed shall you be in the field. Blessed shall be the fruit of your womb, the fruit of your ground, and the fruit of your livestock, both the increase of your cattle and the issue of your flock. Blessed shall be your basket and your kneading bowl. Blessed shall you be when you come in, and blessed shall you be when you go out…. The Lord will make you abound in prosperity, in the fruit of your womb, in the fruit of your livestock, and in the fruit of your ground in the land that the Lord swore to your ancestors to give you. The Lord will open for you his rich storehouse, the heavens, to give the rain of your land in its season and to bless all your undertakings. (Deut. 28:2-7; 11-12) Obeying the covenant is meant to be a source of blessing, prosperity, joy, and health for God’s people. As Paul says, “The law is holy, and the commandment is holy and just and good” (Rom. 7:12), and “Love is the fulfilling of the law” (Rom. 13:10).
@tessiepineda6867
@tessiepineda6867 Жыл бұрын
Pastor Jim has made a lot of sense. The law of God is eternal.
@dma719
@dma719 Жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@petergouvignon8048
@petergouvignon8048 Жыл бұрын
The law is also covenental and we are not under the law of mosses our covenant is with Yeshua and the new covenant the law was fulfilled Mat 5:18 ISV because I tell all of you with certainty that until heaven and earth disappear, not one letter or one stroke of a letter will disappear from the Law until everything has been accomplished.
@justthink3375
@justthink3375 Жыл бұрын
@@dma719 it’s not the law it’s the Commandments that mentions the Sabbath Revelation 22:14 - Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
@dma719
@dma719 Жыл бұрын
The "10 commandments" is the moral law of God and it reflects His character, I don't know who the God of those who deny God's law.
@petergouvignon8048
@petergouvignon8048 Жыл бұрын
@@dma719 Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. Heb 8:12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. Heb 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
@brentbeatty4171
@brentbeatty4171 Жыл бұрын
Friday sundown to Saturday sundown is the Sabbath (shabbat)
@Isaiah-ft5nx
@Isaiah-ft5nx Жыл бұрын
Sundown to sundown isn’t biblical except for 2 particular sabbath observances in the Bible. Did the first day in genesis begin with darkness? No; it began with light.
@richadruhe
@richadruhe Жыл бұрын
no, cant be because named days is made up and out of sync with the moon.
@lindaschipansky4429
@lindaschipansky4429 Жыл бұрын
​@@Isaiah-ft5nx Can u give me the 2 verses to look at. I would like to look up. Thanks
@derrickatkinson7277
@derrickatkinson7277 Жыл бұрын
​@@Isaiah-ft5nx evening and the morning was the first day etc. Check Genesis 1. From Sun down to sun down is a day. Not morning to night. The Sabbath begins from Friday sundown to Saturday sundown
@lisakimbrell1406
@lisakimbrell1406 Жыл бұрын
​@@derrickatkinson7277 Yahuah created during the daylight hours, then it was evening and morning, the 1st day complete. When morning came, the 2nd day of creation began. Then it was evening and morning again, the 2nd day complete. Etc...He didn't even create the Sun and Moon and stars until the 4th day. The 1st thing He said was let there be light. He is the light. He created in the light. The lunar calander is Babylonian. It is NOT Yahuahs calander. The entire Bible narrative of Yahuahs calander begins the day at sunrise to sunrise. Yes "the jews" keep the Babylonian calander but you have to learn who "the Jews" really are to understand why they do. They are the SINofGOG of Satan that say they are Yahudim and ARE NOT but do lie. Yahusha told us so and rebuked them every encounter He had with them. AND these are the same ppl "the church" whether Catholic or Protestant listen to and get understanding of doctrine from. Go watch The God Culture They'll lay it all out for you
@paulinekasaija6396
@paulinekasaija6396 3 ай бұрын
Be strong to keep Gods law don't obey man , but Our Heavenly Father
@solofourohsixgaming
@solofourohsixgaming 11 ай бұрын
Anytime someone says not to use scripture alone to determined something, that is a red flag, the Bible is the only authority we should use.
@scooterose100
@scooterose100 9 ай бұрын
Amen to that!
@gardysauveur529
@gardysauveur529 8 ай бұрын
Amen 2 Tim 3:16
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 7 ай бұрын
Yes,yes right
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 7 ай бұрын
Yes yes the book of the children of Israel they trying to remove the name Israel and juda the chosen people read Jeremiah 16 19 Zechariah 8 23 they will say I will go with Israel
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 6 ай бұрын
Yes yes you right the book of the children of Israel
@waynewhite57
@waynewhite57 Жыл бұрын
It’s the only commandment that God ask us to “ Remember “ … I guess He knew we’d try to “ Forget “ !!!
@mikebrown9850
@mikebrown9850 Жыл бұрын
He told them to remember it bc He had already explained the Sabbath to them when He first gave them manna (Exodus 16).
@hoxiefam6731
@hoxiefam6731 Жыл бұрын
In Hebrews 4 the author addresses the issue of the Jewish day of rest, the sabbath. He sets the tone saying in v3: “We who have believed have entered into rest.” Hebrews 4:8-9: “If Joshua had given them rest God would not have spoken about a later day of sabbath (rest) to come. Therefore there is a Sabbath-rest for the people of God. For anyone who enters into His rest must also cease (rest) from their own works, as God did.” This is why Jesus said in Mark 2: 27 and 28: “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.” Jesus here made the case that HE is the Sabbath-rest long predicted with each day off every Jewish person took through the centuries. HE is the Sabbath-rest who was made for man because that Sabbath day off was made for man - and so was He. With each bull and goat and sheep and bird offered as a blood sacrifice it spoke to a time where a final sacrifice would be made to bring a rest between God and human kind once and for all. Jesus is that rest. Jesus brought that Sabbath-rest. But to enter into His rest, you have to cease from your own works. You have to accept the grace. And once accepted, you can’t go back to working formulas to find peace with God the Father. Once you have Jesus, as Paul stated in Romans 8: 32, you have all things. This is why Paul in his letters to the Corinthians and Colossians and as we see in Hebrews, the teaching that Jesus is our Sabbath-rest, which makes every effort on our part to make peace with the Father obsolete. Jesus is all we need. Once we have Him, it is proof we have ceased from our own works (efforts) to get to God.
@morrispatterson4299
@morrispatterson4299 Жыл бұрын
​@@mikebrown9850 ¹😊9😊0
@mikebrown9850
@mikebrown9850 Жыл бұрын
@@hoxiefam6731 Exactly! That’s why I cease from my own works from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset. Yes, I have those same verses in my Bible.
@mikebrown9850
@mikebrown9850 Жыл бұрын
@@hoxiefam6731 When do you cease from your own works?
@readaloudwithmommyred2652
@readaloudwithmommyred2652 Жыл бұрын
I always believe in a God who doesn't change the rules at the middle of the game. God is the same yesterday today and forever. Wonderful brain sharpening debate. May many would watch this and be blessed and challenged to search the scriptures.
@earlysda
@earlysda Жыл бұрын
read, AMEN!
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 Жыл бұрын
Actually when Jesus died on the cross EVERYTHING changed. Hebrews 7 11 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood-and indeed the law given to the people established that priesthood-why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? 18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God. “With a loud cry, Jesus breathed his last. The curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom.” - Mark 15:37-38 Romans 8:3-10 NIV For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. 2Cor. 5 Verses 14 to 21 [17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, ALL THINGS BECOME NEW. Praise God!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@donnahamilton4947
@donnahamilton4947 Жыл бұрын
​@@metathoughts732 question Does God change ?? will he speak and change his word after for he is God he never change
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 Жыл бұрын
God's character never changes, but we would completely wrong to assume that God's future actions are easily predictable based on past experinces. Lamentations 3:22-2 The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. Jesus was very clear: Luke 22:20 In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you. The Book of Hebrews in the New Testament says: Hebrews 8:6-7 "But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second."
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 Жыл бұрын
@@donnahamilton4947 His New Covenant changed everything. Hebrews 8:6-13 "But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises. 7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said[a]: “The days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. 9 It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they did not remain faithful to my covenant, and I turned away from them, declares the Lord. 10 This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. 11 No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest. 12 For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.”[b] 13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear." Amen
@Its_Sheeraw
@Its_Sheeraw 5 ай бұрын
Pastor Jim has said some so profound:- It is not about salvation but whether we should keep the sabbath or not. It is about obedience even as we claim to love christ. - WHO have the testimony of Jesus and KEEP His COmmandments. Jesus obeyed the FATHER and so we should.
@serenaeller7
@serenaeller7 Жыл бұрын
I so enjoy the Sabbath rest. I now look forward to this day.
@tonya6103
@tonya6103 Жыл бұрын
Hi but which day is the Sabbath for Christains? I don't want to do what the Catholics changed to Sunday the sun gods day-a demon? I worship Christ everyday and my church often gather during the week for prayer & Bible study? It is a part of the 10 Commandments which was written by God's finger not Moses. Help I don't understand. I think the day should be on Saturday the day Jews do because Jesus was a Jew. Thanks
@carlathomas5807
@carlathomas5807 Жыл бұрын
@@tonya6103….For 6 days you should work and on the Sabbath God commands us to REST! It is the Lord’s day, not Moses day. Yes, we can have a Holy Scripture (a.k.a. bible study) and all other things that are FOCUSED on God EXCEPT work. Yes, we can have “church” on Sunday with a good old fashioned fish fry after with Uncle Bob and Aunt Tilda. We can even wash our car on Sunday But Sunday is NOT the day that God says we are to REST! Hope this helps ❤
@tonya6103
@tonya6103 Жыл бұрын
@carlathomas5807 yes it does, I wish more Christains would get that. Thank you.
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 Жыл бұрын
@@tonya6103 quote---Hi but which day is the Sabbath for Christains?--unquote Anyone that obeys/loves god WILL Obey the Sabbath!!! Gen 2:1-3 Thus the heavens and the earth and all their array were completed. 2* On the seventh day God completed the work he had been doing; he rested on the seventh day from all the work he had undertaken. 3God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work he had done in creation. Ex 20:8-11 8 “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your male or female servant, nor your animals, nor any foreigner residing in your towns. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. ----------any issues, remenber these: FACTS" --The ONLY day GOD RESTED ON--Seventh day!! Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD BLESSED--Seventh dayt---Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD SANCTIFIED--Seventh day--Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD NAMED--Seventh day--SAbbath--Isaiah 58:13 --The ONLY day GOD DECLARES as HIS HOLY DAY--Seventh day--Isaiah 58:13, Matthew 24:36-41 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
@HerVirtuousPurpose
@HerVirtuousPurpose 9 ай бұрын
Me too! God knew from eternity past that I would need it. Thank you, Jesus for the Sabbath.
@mreuro12
@mreuro12 Жыл бұрын
I am a Jew and I can say that Yeshua kept Shabbat perfectly and I invite Pastor Staley to come to Israel , he is welcome with love, you search for truth without any hate ..God bless you
@hoxiefam6731
@hoxiefam6731 Жыл бұрын
Yes he did, because he came to fulfill it, HE is Lord of the Sabbath he came to bring rest to all who will believe unto him. Cease from your religious works and rest in Him.
@eswn1816
@eswn1816 Жыл бұрын
​@@hoxiefam6731 Fulfill is not to end. It is to accomplish. I always find it interesting that no Christian would ever violate any of the 10 Commandments EXCEPT for #4! The first 3 commands are about God. The last 6 about man. God meets man on the Sabbath! It's that simple. 🙏
@hoxiefam6731
@hoxiefam6731 Жыл бұрын
@@eswn1816 when Jesus was asked about the commandments he said they could be summed up as Love the Lord your God with all your heart all your mind and all your soul and love your neighbor as yourself. Everyone following each as a rulebook seem to skip over his words.
@hoxiefam6731
@hoxiefam6731 Жыл бұрын
@@eswn1816 Hebrews 4 the author addresses the issue of the Jewish day of rest, the sabbath. He sets the tone saying in v3: “We who have believed have entered into rest.” Hebrews 4:8-9: “If Joshua had given them rest God would not have spoken about a later day of sabbath (rest) to come. Therefore there is a Sabbath-rest for the people of God. For anyone who enters into His rest must also cease (rest) from their own works, as God did.” This is why Jesus said in Mark 2: 27 and 28: “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath.” Jesus here made the case that HE is the Sabbath-rest long predicted with each day off every Jewish person took through the centuries. HE is the Sabbath-rest who was made for man because that Sabbath day off was made for man - and so was He. With each bull and goat and sheep and bird offered as a blood sacrifice it spoke to a time where a final sacrifice would be made to bring a rest between God and human kind once and for all. Jesus is that rest. Jesus brought that Sabbath-rest. But to enter into His rest, you have to cease from your own works. You have to accept the grace. And once accepted, you can’t go back to working formulas to find peace with God the Father. Once you have Jesus, as Paul stated in Romans 8: 32, you have all things. This is why Paul in his letters to the Corinthians and Colossians and as we see in Hebrews, the teaching that Jesus is our Sabbath-rest, which makes every effort on our part to make peace with the Father obsolete. Jesus is all we need. Once we have Him, it is proof we have ceased from our own works (efforts) to get to God.”
@eswn1816
@eswn1816 Жыл бұрын
@@hoxiefam6731 Love God = Absolutely! It is also written: 1 John 5:3 KJV - "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." All of the commandments point to loving God and our neighbor. Loving God is to rest when God rests to both remember and honor His creation. It is not grievous (difficult). It is done with joy! 🙏
@shadowfax9177
@shadowfax9177 Жыл бұрын
There's a reason why the fourth commandment says *REMEMBER* the Sabbath. Because people have forgotten that the 7th day of the week is Saturday. Through reading the scriptures, it's also important to bear in mind we don't keep the Sabbath for righteousness, we aren't under the law but grace. However that doesn't mean we don't follow the commandments, but rather our reasons for following the commandments have changed. How many times do the scriptures read "if you love me, follow my commands?" So for me, I keep the Sabbath because I love God and that is the way I show it.
@soreichithung6383
@soreichithung6383 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the Israelites should remember the Covenant made in the wilderness in Exodus. But what the Romans and the Chinese have to remember who never came out from the Egyptian slavery?
@shadowfax9177
@shadowfax9177 Жыл бұрын
@@soreichithung6383 read the second half of my comment.
@balukuroben7458
@balukuroben7458 Жыл бұрын
The only reason Yahweh says "Remember " because this law is not a natural law,it is not written in the hearts of men like other laws. Each of us know from birth ,that murder is sin, adultery is sin, disobedience to parents is sin , hypocrisy is sin. But non of us is born knowing that the sabbath should be kept. By very nature of the Fourth commandment , God intended it to be temporal not permanent.
@terrygreenman1540
@terrygreenman1540 Жыл бұрын
Yes there is a reason but the reason was not given to you Gentile. It was given to Israel. They are the reason it was said to and to who it was said to REMEMBER the Sabbath. No mention of creation or God resting or the blessing the Sabbath received appears in the commandment in the book of Deuteronomy. Instead, Moses states, “ *Remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt and the Eternal your God freed you* from there… therefore the Eternal your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day.” This explanation appears somewhat removed from the day itself, not as closely tied to it as the other [which links it to the seventh day of creation on which God rests]. How does God’s freeing Israel from Egypt lead to sanctifying the Sabbath? The answer unfolds in layers. To begin with, the image of God in this version of the commandment matches the image of God in the first commandment, which reads, “I the Eternal am *your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt* ….” This is a familiar God. This is the God who works through history, the God whose liberation of the Israelites from Egypt forms a central theme of the Bible and lies at the core of Jewish life. In addressing the Israelites shortly before his death, Moses is speaking to people who witnessed that liberation or heard about it directly from their parents or other family members. For them, God as creator may seem remote. God as redeemer is the God they know. Calling up that aspect of the divine in the Sabbath commandment stirs in them memories of the slavery they suffered and God’s feats in delivering them from it. Observing the Sabbath God ordained is a way of memorializing their deliverance and honoring the deity who brought it about. (Exodus 31:16,17 Artscroll Translation). The Sabbath was given as a sign and covenant to Israel, a Gentile is forbidden to observe the Sabbath or to make a Sabbath of their own, a Halachah codified in the Mishneh Torah, Laws of Kings 10:9.
@justthink8952
@justthink8952 Жыл бұрын
Seventh Day Adventists and other Sabbath keepers are trying to observe the Sabbath of Israel, but not God's true Sabbath. Here's how. When God gave the law through Moses, it was for the people of Israel, not the gentiles. Israel's Sabbath is just a foreshadow of God's Sabbath. It is just a copy. What Israel were commanded to do was just a copy of what God has in store. If you disagree, then substantiate your arguments against mine given below. To start with, use your common sense and think outside of the box. Keep these facts in mind. 1. Before God make appear the dry land and create the sun, God had his day 1, day 2, day 3 .... which had morning and evening. This fact is read from Genesis. Now if our day and night coincides with God's day and night, then the duration of God's day and night is a 24 hours cycle. If this is not the case, then Israel's Sabbath is not coinciding with God's true Sabbath. That means Israel's Sabbath which God gave them to observe is not God's true Sabbath. In that case, Seventh Day Adventist's main pillar of faith is destroyed the Seventh Day Adventist's Church will be a false Church. Thus, to sustain the claim of Seventh Day Adventist's Church, they must prove that God's Sabbath day coincides with Israel's Sabbath. I hope you will attempt to prove this. 2. God's day and night were not because of the sunlight and the shadow of the earth. But if God's day 1 is equal to 24 hours duration, then it could very well coincide with Israel's Sabbath which has 24 hours duration. Now, if God had his Day 1, Day 2 ...., then it is fair to imagine that the time duration should be of equal duration because God's time will not be determined by the rotation of the earth in its axis or the revolution of the earth in elliptical orbit around the sun. 3. Now, God is the God of all people. And if we say one day is equal to 24 hours, then day and night is not the issue to determined the time duration. Therefore, there is no need to start the Sabbath at sunset on the sixth day in Israel. However, if sunset and sunrise is used to determine the duration of the Sabbath day, then the people of Norway will have to observe lengthy Sabbath day during April to August. This means the time period of Sabbath for Norwaygians will be more than thousands hours while for Israel, it is only 24 hours. So, how can Norwaygians observe Sabbath like the Israelites? Isn't the God of Israel also the God of Norwaygians? This problem shows that either the God of Israel was a liar and not the true God or Israelites are not keeping God's true Sabbath. Either way, the Seventh Day Adventists are in error because they are neither following God's instruction on Sabbath given through Moses nor do they keep God's true Sabbath. While a Seventh Day Adventist start keeping the Sabbath in Israel, his fellow Adventists in US will be working and his fellowmen in Norway will be wondering how to keep the Sabbath because God did not say look at the watch to keep the Sabbath. There is no way Seventh Day Adventist will be able to keep the Sabbath around the world at the same time when they all worship the same one God. Since Sabbath keepers claim they keep God's Sabbath while they break it by not being able to observe the Sabbath at the same time worldwide, the Seventh Day Adventist Church as a whole has errred and therefore, it cannot be the true Church. 4. History does not support the claims of Seventh Day Adventist Church
@myrnab1031
@myrnab1031 9 ай бұрын
Weather we like it or not, the truth is the truth. Sunday is the venerable day of the sun and the Sabbath is Saturday, God’s day.
@AlhamdulilJesus
@AlhamdulilJesus 8 ай бұрын
Where in the bible does it say Saturday ?
@michaelsburger665
@michaelsburger665 4 ай бұрын
Sunday is also Sun worship
@masterPyo
@masterPyo 4 ай бұрын
​@@AlhamdulilJesussabbath is known to stand for Saturday in over 100 languages
@mil-ns3rc
@mil-ns3rc 3 ай бұрын
WHERE DID YOU LEARN THAT LIE ,MAYBE SUNDAY WAS NAMED SUN day, but it is not to worship the sun. But the GOD THE SON THE DAY JESUS RESURRECTION AND CONQUERED DEATH. HOW ABOUT MOONDAY. MARSDAY(TUESDAY) MERCURY DAY (WEDNESDAY) FRIDAY you also have Months names after gods do do we honor those gods heck no !
@mil-ns3rc
@mil-ns3rc 3 ай бұрын
​​@@michaelsburger665 Nope it's the day Jesus of resurrection. It's day Our LORD AND SAVIOR, conquered death. WE have the Months named after gods are going to worship those gods. NOOOOO!!
@karenwahlenberg901
@karenwahlenberg901 Жыл бұрын
As for me and my house I will keep his commandments to the best of my ability
@PassionForTruthVideo
@PassionForTruthVideo Жыл бұрын
Amén! May Yah bless you and your family
@stanneufeld62
@stanneufeld62 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but trying to keep the commandments are not good enough. Jesus kept them perfectly.
@TotoPaulino
@TotoPaulino Жыл бұрын
As a Gentile, how do I keep the Sabbath? Are there specific rules given for Gentiles, or do I follow the way the Jews keep it?
@stanneufeld62
@stanneufeld62 Жыл бұрын
@@TotoPaulino First of all gentiles never kept the sabbath. It only was for the Jews. Second of all it was under the old covenant. We are in the new covenant. Thirdly, no one could keep it perfectly anyway. That's why Jesus came to fulfill the law and when we are in Christ He is are sabbath.
@msladymack1960
@msladymack1960 Жыл бұрын
​@@stanneufeld62 Good morning Brother Would you agree Greek and Gentile is interchangeable ? Concordance: Strong's Definitions: Ἕλλην Héllēn, hel'-lane; from G1671; a Hellen (Grecian) or inhabitant of Hellas; by extension a Greek-speaking person, especially a non-Jew:-Gentile, Greek. In Acts 18:4 the Bible says: "And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks." Acts 18:4 "And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath." Acts 13:42 These two verses show that the Gentiles and or Greeks observed the Sabbath. I struggled with and wrestled with GOD about the Sabbath. GOD won when I surrendered. It was a battle until GOD asked if I loved my family more than living in LOVING obedience to HIM. (John 14:15). Not saying that's your struggle...but, if the truth is set before us and we choose to go against what is revealed, we may have a heart condition. Blessings🙏🏾📖🔥❤
@married-wit-childrenadog9249
@married-wit-childrenadog9249 Жыл бұрын
The Sabbath remains God’s holy day, made for man to rest. Thank you, Lord for thinking of a resting day to rest in your love and peace! ❤
@sledge387
@sledge387 Жыл бұрын
We rest in Christ now
@RamonAmador-hc2iu
@RamonAmador-hc2iu Жыл бұрын
God almighty never ever did away with the 10 commandments.. so why is it that we think for any reason Jesus did away with that !!!
@RamonAmador-hc2iu
@RamonAmador-hc2iu Жыл бұрын
The problem is we follow man’s Commandments not God !! Sad !!
@simonkolu
@simonkolu Жыл бұрын
Christ Jesus is our rest
@faithfultoyeshua4576
@faithfultoyeshua4576 Жыл бұрын
Hebrews 4:9
@stevefrench6737
@stevefrench6737 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being respectful to each other-helps nonBelievers see Christ in us. To Shabbat is absolutely wonderful! While I have had a long journey in my faith- the days since I’ve begun to honor Father through resting on His appointed day have been so blessed. It’s as if He understands the way our body, mind and spirit functions best. 😮😊
@nicolechristian9389
@nicolechristian9389 4 ай бұрын
Jim Staley made his entire case just in his opening statement. What a wonderful gift he has to articulate and explain God’s commandments with correct historical context
@truthnottradition7
@truthnottradition7 3 ай бұрын
That 20 min opening statement is absolute GOLD.
@ladyu.p4268
@ladyu.p4268 Жыл бұрын
As far me and my house I will fallow the Lord🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
@mattwilliam3410
@mattwilliam3410 8 ай бұрын
Have you been baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ, as we are commanded in acts 2:38 10:48 ‭‭Acts‬ ‭19:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [5] When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. Were you sprinkled or submerged? We are buried with him. You need to be submerged in the Name all power is in the Name. No other name among men whereby we must be saved. ‭‭Acts‬ ‭8:38‭-‬39‬ ‭KJV‬‬ [38] And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. [39] And when they were come up out of the water,
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 5 ай бұрын
Let no one stop 🛑 you Joel 3 says he is coming for the scattered ones of Israel who they have scattered among the nations so be careful isiah 16 19 gentiles will say our fathers have inherited lies
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 5 ай бұрын
@@mattwilliam3410 this acts 19 was in that dispensation this has past. We hav entered a new This is now the time for the second exodus for the children of Israel he that is filthy let him be , he that is holy be so still this is isreal time
@mattwilliam3410
@mattwilliam3410 5 ай бұрын
@hannahbowers1469 The scripture doesn't support your doctrine. The doctrine of Baptism doesn't stop until the great white throne judgment.
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 5 ай бұрын
@@mattwilliam3410 I have not deny baptism even my forefathers were baptized under the cloud in the red s EA when returning the second exodus we will be baptism again I will sprinkle the water of baptism Israel , crossing the yadan .Our Messiah was also baptise
@janvermeulenvermeulen5364
@janvermeulenvermeulen5364 Жыл бұрын
Seven day is the Sabbath, Sunday is the first day of the week. Amen. South Africa.
@wilsongaru3832
@wilsongaru3832 Жыл бұрын
Every scholar knows that, Happy Sabbath brother.
@riekiebriel679
@riekiebriel679 Жыл бұрын
We also keep the Sabbath of the Word of God. May Christ bless us here in SA🙏
@RonaldTolar-pg8uh
@RonaldTolar-pg8uh Жыл бұрын
Silly , there were no man made Calenders at Creation ike St.Paul told you. The Point ?? Pick a Calender day in what ever Calender a Nation uses and Honor it as the Sabbath. Remember, "" The Sabbath was made for Man, not Man for the Sabbath.""
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 Жыл бұрын
@@RonaldTolar-pg8uhquote---Silly , there were no man made Calenders around on the 7th day of Creation.--unquote Why would anyone need a man-made calendar when they had GOD???? And, apparently you believe NO ONE could count to 7!! Including God!!!
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 Жыл бұрын
@@Rileyed quote---"The sabbath is kept in the contented heart" Discontent --> atheism and apostasy.--unquote Apostasy--the CC.
@avimol
@avimol Жыл бұрын
Pastor Jim explained so well. Thank you. Praise God for giving us light and not to follow catholic church but to follow God's Word. 🙏
@pdanoe
@pdanoe Жыл бұрын
I wanted to know what was in the debate before committing to a 2 hour video. Now I know. "not to follow catholic church". OK, so this is what it is all about. Right
@birdwingconservation4289
@birdwingconservation4289 4 ай бұрын
Yes .....never go catholic! It's not from God!
@birdwingconservation4289
@birdwingconservation4289 4 ай бұрын
Keeping the 8 day? ......Jesus!
@birdwingconservation4289
@birdwingconservation4289 4 ай бұрын
Church farthers?.......are church farthers greater than God that we trust and uphold their saying?
@birdwingconservation4289
@birdwingconservation4289 4 ай бұрын
Yeah....but love by obeying God's Moral Law.
@hildasantos9637
@hildasantos9637 8 ай бұрын
they changed it without Gods permission! Bec Gods words are true, faithful & never changing! Praise God for His Sabbath Day 💚🙏
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 5 ай бұрын
The seventh day Adventist is the one who changed things or tink to change time and law they enter a Sabbath conversation they are called strangers foreign joiner gentiles why enter in things that doesn't belong to you ,and playing giver and master or lord wait you turn speak truth
@jeanclaude7018
@jeanclaude7018 5 ай бұрын
Daniel 7.24,25 tells the story. The little horn power that followed the pagan Roman empire was the PAPACY. The pope wants to enforce Sunday laws again.
@birdwingconservation4289
@birdwingconservation4289 4 ай бұрын
Daniel 7:25
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 4 ай бұрын
@@birdwingconservation4289 what meaneth thou
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 4 ай бұрын
@@birdwingconservation4289 say something Daniel the Hebrew is your church in capacity the book of Hebrews for Hebrew Forty years your father 's tempted they saw my work today if you should hear his voice (Israel)harden not your heart
@augustusshook2881
@augustusshook2881 Жыл бұрын
Jim you done a great job. I have kept the sabbath for many years. To honor the sabbath is a blessing in my life. God Bless you my brother.
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 11 ай бұрын
You should honor the Sabbath by doing what Paul and the Apostles did on the Sabbath. They are a great example.
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 10 ай бұрын
Here is what Paul did on the Sabbath: Acts 17 Now when they had traveled through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a synagogue of the Jews. 2 And according to Paul’s custom, he visited them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and giving evidence that the Christ had to suffer and rise from the dead, and saying, “This Jesus whom I am proclaiming to you is the Christ.” 4 And some of them were persuaded and joined Paul and Silas, along with a large number of the God-fearing Greeks and a significant number of the leading women. Is this what you do on the Sabbath? Do you go to the lost and share the Good News? Now that would be something to boast about.
@rj-jp5vu
@rj-jp5vu 10 ай бұрын
He sure did do a good job God bless the Seventh-Day Saturday
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 10 ай бұрын
@@rj-jp5vu God bless the New Covenant that makes the old one obsolete.
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 10 ай бұрын
@@metathoughts732 quote---God bless the New Covenant that makes the old one obsolete.--unquote Quote the New Covenant the says anything about the Sabbath!!!
@keagilegalethalegwe3200
@keagilegalethalegwe3200 Жыл бұрын
Though am not from a sabbath keeping church me and my family will keep the sabbath
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 Жыл бұрын
The Apostles used the Sabbath to go to meetings of unsaved Jews and share the gospel, risking life and limb. Do you keep the Sabbath as the Apostles did? Or do you just rest up?
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 Жыл бұрын
@@Rileyed I have been there. The Sabbath became an idol. Philippians 3:8 ► What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ
@verdadabsoluta9756
@verdadabsoluta9756 10 ай бұрын
​@@metathoughts732Telling true is always a risk. What are you talking about?
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 10 ай бұрын
@@verdadabsoluta9756 Just asking a question. Do you keep the Sabbath according to the Torah?
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 7 ай бұрын
Good but do it yahshua yah way the way he instructed the children of Israel the people of the book the chosen those he call and now saying return ,not the nations way not s d a way s d a doing their thing the almighty spoke to Israel a nation psalm 147 he has only spoken to Israel all other pass through the window 🪟
@kernsmith8163
@kernsmith8163 Жыл бұрын
God bless you pastor Jim Staley you were used by God
@salomguvi7621
@salomguvi7621 4 ай бұрын
I'm sabbath keeper ,so blessed is holy sabbath way keeping .
@valm.2551
@valm.2551 Жыл бұрын
I was raised in the Baptist church and never once learned about the sabbath. So much misleading in churches these days. I NOW keep the true Slabbath!❤🙌
@ynrisbarrios5771
@ynrisbarrios5771 Жыл бұрын
I will pray for you conexión back to God
@valm.2551
@valm.2551 Жыл бұрын
​@@ynrisbarrios5771you mean Yah ❤
@jeffreydurant5869
@jeffreydurant5869 Жыл бұрын
You should have known when someone called a church Baptist, when the Baptist said he wasn't the one.
@julianapatrick7451
@julianapatrick7451 Жыл бұрын
That's wonderful! Teach the other Baptists as I'm trying to teach my old Catholic people the whole truth and nothing but the truth!
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 Жыл бұрын
@@johnle231 FACTS" --The ONLY day GOD RESTED ON--Seventh day!! Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD BLESSED--Seventh dayt---Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD SANCTIFIED--Seventh day--Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD NAMED--Seventh day--SAbbath--Isaiah 58:13 --The ONLY day GOD DECLARES as HIS HOLY DAY--Seventh day--Isaiah 58:13, Matthew 24:36-41 PROVE by the Holy Bible that those are wrong!!!
@raphaelnjabulodlamini9412
@raphaelnjabulodlamini9412 Жыл бұрын
True that pastor jim you clearly outlined what God says not what humans say. God will truly reveal His truths to everyone and in the end we will all say all your ways are just. Well said Jim clearly understood
@PassionForTruthVideo
@PassionForTruthVideo Жыл бұрын
Praise God!
@Littlefair7
@Littlefair7 Жыл бұрын
No ways bafo, the Bible is very clear, Christ is the end of the law.
@gtiggsmusicstudent
@gtiggsmusicstudent Жыл бұрын
​@dlaminiandre9012 please explain
@Littlefair7
@Littlefair7 Жыл бұрын
@gtiggsmusicstudent Well, it's very clear in the new testament that we don't need the law but Jesus.
@gtiggsmusicstudent
@gtiggsmusicstudent Жыл бұрын
@dlaminiandre9012 well I cannot put it any better than what I heard here. You have explained what I can go by. Please explain further with evidence from the New Testament maybe that may help my understanding of your point.
@lindasimmons1378
@lindasimmons1378 10 ай бұрын
I grew up a Sunday worshipper but so glad my eyes have been opened to the true Sabbath, Saturday. The sabbath is a gift from God. If He rested we certainly should as He commands. I try to honor this day apart from all others and its sometimes challenging as I get called into work or have the common distractions of TV or my smart phone. I feel so close to God when I keep it
@PassionForTruthVideo
@PassionForTruthVideo 10 ай бұрын
Amen!
@user-ux1mj1uz5b
@user-ux1mj1uz5b 10 ай бұрын
the true Sabath-rest is being in Christ, or trusting in the work of Christ for our salvation, as Chris Rosebrough said in his closing statement (1:44:00)
@jesussaves6575
@jesussaves6575 10 ай бұрын
All my life, I've been a Sunday worshipper, debating about whether or not to keep sabbath is actually of no importance the last time I checked. God is not limited to days nor are His abilities limited to only sabbaths, I was brought up in a church where God's divine power was incomparable and it's always on Sunday. God wants us to stop sinning and to treat everyday holy that's how Christ lived
@julianapatrick7451
@julianapatrick7451 10 ай бұрын
That's wonderful news! But you know there's nothing wrong with going to church or worshipping Sunday or any other day God never gets tried of being recognized worshipped and loved! Can you blame Them? 😊🙏🙏🙏❣️
@Jasho-Beam
@Jasho-Beam 10 ай бұрын
​@@jesussaves6575 James 2:10 "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all"
@oderajoseph1996
@oderajoseph1996 6 ай бұрын
I pray to God Help me enjoy the Sabbath celebration In Heaven also. South Sudan
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 4 ай бұрын
Am glad you iove the Sabbath but remember to rejoice with Israel because they were given it first unto them were given the original oracle. Deut 32 as nation to rejoice with Israel his people
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 3 ай бұрын
Wonderful it is a good thing to give thanks bless you as you love truth and pursue after it bless yah halauyah
@loren719
@loren719 Ай бұрын
@@hannahbowers1469 The Sabbath was given to MAN (Adam & Eve) first, and later entrusted with Israel to be a Light to the world. The Angel in Rev. 14:7, clearly proclaims the "Everlasting Gospel": God's Judgment / the Sabbath.... to every kindred, nation, tongue and people - the whole world has the Sabbath proclaimed to them in the last book of the Bible Israel "put it (Gospel) from them" so the Apostles "turned to the Gentiles" (Acts 13:46) "And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the Word of the Lord... " Acts 13:48 God is Love!
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 Ай бұрын
@@loren719 You know it's so sad when our people can't devide the words of truth right l Satan has decided the whole world Even the very elect(it seam) Yeremiah 16:19 gentiles (seventh day Adventist) Gentiles will come from the end of the earth 🌎 and say surely our fathers have inherited lies lies Why are you mixing grapes and apples ? ? There was no law of sabbath for Adam and Eve Their law dress the garden The Sabbath was made for man Messiah spoke to his people Israel and juda is referred to as man You need witnesses in Hebrew 1:1-4 he made the world for Messiah a Hebrew man Man shall not live by bread only Deuteronomy 8 3 put things in order Now revelation gospel to every nation toung People A dispensation when the gentiles who was without God in the world some of them accepted the Messiah by faith they received a gift not by law Law for Israel covenant and faith in Messiah Gentile faith l in Messiah as Abraham no law except international law : don't eat blood , meat strangle ,man with mam Gentile can keep Sabbath if they love it isiah56 the strange that join them selves The Messiah is coming : to rescue and restore Joel 3 for my people Israel who they scattered and parted my land You will know the people Zachariah 8 23 nations will say I will go with Israel because I hear that God is with them The sigh of the Sabbath is on them Why is the other not wearing the blue 🔵 cord in number 15 ? All those who keep Sabbath must wear the blue ribbon l Is because Sabbath is not given to them Sorry friend wait on yahshua You are a Man of covenant don't follow the world
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 Ай бұрын
@@loren719 who are those stranger foreign joiner that love the Sabbath in isiah 56 if it given to the whole world Please help I need to know help with the stranger
@rangerswife2176
@rangerswife2176 Жыл бұрын
Interesting story about a friend of mine: she was a new Christian and wanted to start keeping the Sabbath and told her boss so. He asked her to first take time to meet with his wife to study the Sabbath before making such a huge decision. She told me she was afraid. I encouraged her that she knew more than she realized, and that God would guide her as she followed her convictions according to His Word. She went to her boss’s home and as she entered, the woman asked if she was ready to study the Sabbath. My friend noticed two tall stacks of books on the table. She said, yes, if we study only the Word of God. Her teacher looked at the table for a second, and said, well then I guess we have no study. Beware of theologians. Ask God to show you His truth and He will lead you. The Bible was written for people. Even children can understand enough to be saved.
@pamstaley24
@pamstaley24 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Wonder what the 'books' were? Even historical books would 'prove' the Sabbath 🙂
@thembandlovu3344
@thembandlovu3344 Жыл бұрын
@@Elizabeth-rk3do what are you saying exactly? Are you saying DEATH marks the end of your SINS?,which scripture are you quoting? If you are quoting Romans 6vs23 then you HEAVILY MISTAKEN,why am I saying so? Because there are FOUR TYPES OF DEATHS in the Bible so Romans 6 referred to BAPTISM TYPE OF DEATH(dying with Christ and resurrect with him,mortifying the deeds of the flesh,killing flesh and resurrect in spirit Because before Christ died for us we were all spiritual dead/dead in our sins(Ephesians 2vs11-),the seed of Adam(seed of sin) gave birth to all men on the planet,because of Adam our who sinned and SPIRITUALLY DIED WE WERE ALL BORN DEAD (read Romans 5:12-15) so through death of baptism that's where sins are forgiven,through baptism Christ quickened us from death no1 which we inherited from Adam through birth(in flesh),and through one(Christ) we were made alive,SO YOUR SINS DOES NOT DISSAPPEAR THE DAY YOU GO THROUGH MORTAL DEATH NO BUT THE DAY YOU BECOME A NEW CREATURE UNTO THE LORD,THE DAY YOU BECOME SPIRITUAL EVEN THOUGH YOU WILL BE STILL IN FLESH(I'm talking about spiritual man here) there's a flesh body(physical body) there's also a spiritual(he's invisible).
@thembandlovu3344
@thembandlovu3344 Жыл бұрын
@@Elizabeth-rk3do And we don't inherit eternal life by mortal death NOOOOOO!! but by being saved through baptism which is the death of the deeds of flesh and start to live a new life in Christ,IF YOU DIE TODAY WITHOUT BEING SAVED YOU ARE GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL,YOU SAVED WHILE YOU ARE STILL ALIVE NOT OTHER WAY ROUND AS JEHOVHA'S WITNESSES;they are the servants of the darkness that's heresy thats a blasphemy against our Lord who made a WAY to heaven WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST INPERSONIFIED IN HIS TRUE WORD(John1:1-3&14,John 6),we have recordings in the bible where people were being saved and they never died(mortally)in order for them to enter heaven.
@thembandlovu3344
@thembandlovu3344 Жыл бұрын
@@Elizabeth-rk3do how come you talk about being justified by faith yet in your initial statement you IF YOU DIE TODAY IT MEANS YOUR SINS ARE FORGIVEN,you are suppose to us the scriptures which says YOU WILL BE JUSTIFIED BY MORTAL DEATH,the whole of Rom 6 apostle Paul was addressing the issue of baptism,baptism is one of the processes to be completed unto salvation,that's exactly what the apostles of the early church preached,we are not starting a new church remember but we are joining the movement unless you have started your own
@antoinettepringle-gopie8846
@antoinettepringle-gopie8846 Жыл бұрын
​@@Elizabeth-rk3do we must obey God's law
@eviahgwasira788
@eviahgwasira788 Жыл бұрын
Jim thanks for the closing remarks. God bless you ABUNDANTLY
@maryellison3350
@maryellison3350 11 ай бұрын
Jim you were awesome standing strong on Truth in scripture. I can’t listen to this other guy. He’s typical orator with no anointing and a lot of man’s traditions / lies I’ve been remembering the sabbath to keep it holy for a few years --alone in my family I will not stop. I’ll go forward to your messages of truth in this debate. I don’t care what he says 🙏🙏
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 6 ай бұрын
if pastor Jim was faithfully and true full he would tell you who has the almighty speaking to when he Sayed REMEMBER why is pastor Jim throwing Israel away Israel remember you were slaves in Egypt . Remember I will remember my covernant with you lev26:42 Israel remember in genesis he rested there almighty rested he bless and rested he did not give it to pastor Jim or any , pastor Jim is a bussy body in other matters .He though the children of Israel how to keep Sabbath in exodus 16 reminded them in exodus 20 Remember Israel he has not spoken to no other psalm 147
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 5 ай бұрын
The children of Israel was ask to remember the Sabbath not the world ,in psalm 24 and other the world is as to praise and give thanks. But laws were given to the chosen people he has spoken to no other nation psalm 147 Why should seven day Adventist change the Sabbath and be rulers? They are gentiles strangers foreign joiner they are not part of the covenant. They despise Israel and Juda setting themselves in disguise God's people ( Gods people Israel) Remember the Sabbath is said to Israel because he spoke to Israel and he reminded them in exodus 20 .the verse doesn't start in 4 it starts in verse 1 Hear Israel I am your God I brought you out of the land of Egypt and out of the house of bound age law started and continue with remember the Sabbath
@loren719
@loren719 3 ай бұрын
@@hannahbowers1469 The Sabbath was made for man, all mankind, not just for Israel. Israel was entrusted with all the Words of God: "... they were ENTRUSTED with the very Words of God. " Rom. 3:2 CSB Because Israel was a: "holy nation.... a Kingdom of priest" Ex. 19:6 They were to be a Light of the Gentiles (Isa. 42:6) Everything God "gave" them was for them to take to the world, Israel was ENTRUSTED with the Words of God and His Sabbath. God is Love!
@DanHutchings-xx7ug
@DanHutchings-xx7ug 3 ай бұрын
@@hannahbowers1469 the New covenant tells the Apostles to go out into the world and teach for there is no difference between Jews and Gentiles. See Romans 10:12-21.
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 3 ай бұрын
@@DanHutchings-xx7ug The new covernant or renew covernant is only made with the house of Israel and juda . The testament is in Messiah both Jew and gentile one in Messiah. (blood was shed , some one died) will and testament. But not covernant Paul went to preach with the gentiles Peter preach through out all the city isreal he did not goto gentiles Paul an apostle to the gentiles
@rayapapa5946
@rayapapa5946 4 ай бұрын
Jim has got to be one of the best debaters for Torah observants. Jim, you put a big smile on the Lords face! God bless you brother, i look forward to meeting you one day. if not in this system i guess ill see you in the kingdom 👍 shalom shalom 🙏
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 Ай бұрын
@@rayapapa5946 what is Jim doing debating Tora ? A gentile The word the almighty gave to the children of Israel ? Was Jim not afraid? Shama Israel Speak to the children of Israel Verily my sabbath you must keep it's a sign between me And the children of Israel. Be still and stand in awe
@loren719
@loren719 15 күн бұрын
@@hannahbowers1469 You said: "what is Jim doing debating Tora ? A gentile The word the almighty gave to the children of Israel ? " Answer: Israel was to a Light to the Gentiles.... to share God's Word with them. Torah - the first five books of the Bible spoke of Jesus: "For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of Me. " John 5:46 The Bible and the Ten Commandments were NOT exclusive for Israel, they were ENTRUSTED to Israel to share with the Gentiles and all the World! To begin with, the Jews were ENTRUSTED with the oracles of God [His very Words]. " Romans 3:2 AMP God is Love!
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 12 күн бұрын
@@loren719 I did get your point but yes T Israel has been intrust with the word The gentiles came by faith in Messiah , Not by covenant hi Organization is what confusion The word the truth is what real truth Now they have Creation Sabbath They keep days,time I am afraid of them They worship the creation Disobedience They don't want the name of Israel to be remembered Behold to obey is better than sacrifice The weekly Sabbath is given to the children of Israel and those who love it do it There is a future blessing for the joiner stranger foreign gentiles in isiah 56
@loren719
@loren719 12 күн бұрын
@@hannahbowers1469 The Sabbath was made for MAN (Mark 2:27) not for Jews, but for ALL MAN-kind; When God entrusted His Sabbath with Israel, He said: "REMEMBER the Sabbath day..... " Ex. 20:8 Remember it, for they forgot it. The Seventh Day Sabbath is from Creation when God Made MAN in His own image (Gen. 1:26) ... there were no Jews then. God is Love!
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 12 күн бұрын
@@loren719 and what did God say? Seventh day Adventist remember to keep the Sabbath? people of the whole world remember to keep my Sabbath People remember creation Remember to honour creation week? Yes Jews and Israel was not at creation Was Abraham there was Adam there Who did he say remember too He waited for his first born isreal He took out of the land of Egypt Remember Israel to keep the Sabbath the strange the foreign joiner Christians that love it keep it
@Roblox_Baconboi17
@Roblox_Baconboi17 Жыл бұрын
I love how Jim gets him with his own words and he stumbles:) about Israel 🇮🇱 ❤
@jenniferjoyner112
@jenniferjoyner112 Жыл бұрын
Certainly seems Chris caught him on Jim's own words. Jim eve serms to take notice during the cross questionings to " make it 5 mins and not 10 mins".!!
@TerencePasitara
@TerencePasitara Жыл бұрын
Jim was correct by the end of the world from one sabbath to another Sabbath we will all worship on the Sabbath day in heaven and not Sunday.
@msladymack1960
@msladymack1960 Жыл бұрын
Indeed...and the Sabbath will be observed and kept when the heavens and earth are made new. Word of GOD:😊🙏🏾📖🔥 "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord." We will worship every Sabbath..🙏🏾📖🔥❤.. Praise GOD. Isaiah 66:22‭-‬23
@glenndodds3544
@glenndodds3544 Жыл бұрын
We will worship every day not just one
@glenndodds3544
@glenndodds3544 Жыл бұрын
I don’t believe the sabbath is done away but I believe we in Christ Jesus rest in him as he is lord of the sabbath. And in this I rest in him so my sabbath is not broken
@larrybedouin2921
@larrybedouin2921 Жыл бұрын
​@@glenndodds3544 Unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest. {Psalm 95:11} And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? {Hebrews 3:18} ^ This is not speaking of the sabbath day (a noun), but rest as in the verb, which is an action.
@glenndodds3544
@glenndodds3544 Жыл бұрын
@@larrybedouin2921 as do I rest in him and what one calls a day holy to another does one call another day holy. Bless is the peace maker love you too God bless and hope to see you there worshiping along side of me
@olgaburgos7780
@olgaburgos7780 Жыл бұрын
The true Sabbath is not kept for Salvation, but obedience to God and for His glory.
@kerjiokchuolboth5983
@kerjiokchuolboth5983 Жыл бұрын
There’s no different because salvation come through faith in obedience
@olgaburgos7780
@olgaburgos7780 Жыл бұрын
@@kerjiokchuolboth5983 The Adventist add the keeping of Sabbath nad believing in their prophet for salvation , so it is not for them only by faith alone.
@olgaburgos7780
@olgaburgos7780 Жыл бұрын
@@kerjiokchuolboth5983 Obedience to the gospel not to the works of the law which are not kept by anybody they are called in the Bible “ filthy rags”. Our works are for sanctification not salvation, Jesus works are the only ones for our salvation.
@olgaburgos7780
@olgaburgos7780 Жыл бұрын
@@kerjiokchuolboth5983 Faith in Christ ALONE!✝️✝️✝️
@berifxacademy
@berifxacademy Жыл бұрын
Obedience to God is by keeping his laws_teachings and instructions.... One of which is keeping the Sabbath. Satan comes in different forms to deceive people with wrong interpretation of Scripture__No where in the Bible that says_keeping the Sabbath is a choice. All early Christian and the Apostles kept it by obedience to God's commandments... Jesus said He has come to fulfill the law not to abolish it..
@AzuraTarazi
@AzuraTarazi 8 ай бұрын
Let’s keep worshipping Yeshua every day in church and in our homes May the Shalom of Yeshua rest upon us oll Shalom
@donhenderson3423
@donhenderson3423 8 ай бұрын
Amen as long as it is on Gods Sabbath. The one written in stone by Gods own finger to last throughout the ages until the end of time and not the 1st day of the week which is the Pagan worship of the Sun and not the Son of God.
@AnnWan-bs2xn
@AnnWan-bs2xn Жыл бұрын
Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. Nothing more to add.
@soreichithung6383
@soreichithung6383 Жыл бұрын
Is the 10 Commandments the way to heaven? If so, let me keep the 10 commandments and go to heaven without Christ. I don't mean we should live in immoral life. Even the Atheists live in moral life.
@AnnWan-bs2xn
@AnnWan-bs2xn Жыл бұрын
@@soreichithung6383 just one question if yiu are married, do yiu remain faithful to your spouse because you made a vow or because you love her? Herein is the answer as to why we keep God’s laws. Romans 8 is a beautiful revelation of what the law means.
@soreichithung6383
@soreichithung6383 Жыл бұрын
Are you saved by grace through faith? Or are you saved by keeping the Sabbath? Don't run away, give honest answer according to the scriptures.
@AnnWan-bs2xn
@AnnWan-bs2xn Жыл бұрын
@@soreichithung6383 I am saved by Grace through faith. Keeping the Sabbath does not save me nor does indeed any law, Paul in Romans 7 states how the law cannot save save us as it could not do what Jesus did on the cross. He adds that the law was not meant to save us. It was only meant to show us how sinful we are. It was to show us our problem. Paul in Romans 7:12 states Therefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy and just and good.“ Why? it showed us our wretchedness, then He gives us a solution, Jesus. Jesus alone is the solution. So my question just as Paul asks in Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Certainly not! On the contrary, we establish the law. Paul says we died with Christ and resurrected with Him through baptism. We are new creatures and we like Him do not serve the law if sin and death. Therefore we keep the law, not to be saved but because we are saved. How could we go on breaking the law of God if we are no longer under flesh? Keeping the Sabbath does not earn me salvation, I keep it because God asked me to as He asked me not to kill, steal or commit adultery. For doing these things and others that God has asked not to do is to dishonor Him. So I gladly keep the Sabbath.
@jamesbang5690
@jamesbang5690 Жыл бұрын
​@@soreichithung6383keep God's commandments "AND" the faith of Jesus.
@maryletang2655
@maryletang2655 Жыл бұрын
Repent and honour God's Sabbath day. The Sabbath is to be kept...it will be kept in heaven. I look forward every week for the Sabbath.
@BrightAni
@BrightAni Жыл бұрын
powerful message from pastor jim ... GOD bless you
@paulinekasaija6396
@paulinekasaija6396 3 ай бұрын
We can preach and have opinions, but Gods word is for ever🎉
@yumish2321
@yumish2321 Жыл бұрын
We obey The Law (10 Commandments) because we love the Lord God. We love the Lord God that is why we obey the Law!
@lindabrooks1863
@lindabrooks1863 Жыл бұрын
I love the first speaker he was more knowledgeable and that's what GOD is looking for Time is at hand.
@olgaburgos7780
@olgaburgos7780 Жыл бұрын
If we brake on commandment we are accounted as to have broken all. We need Jesus and His gospel!📖✝️🙏❤️😇
@simonlazarus5681
@simonlazarus5681 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! When I ask proclaimed Sabbath keepers how to keep this seventh day, they usually say to the best of your abilities. There can only be one correct way if it is in fact applicable to Christians and the apostles would have made it clear if it was a matter of utmost importance to our relationship with God through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 Жыл бұрын
That's the bottom line, and the top line. Let us never put holidays before the Great News.
@simonlazarus5681
@simonlazarus5681 Жыл бұрын
@@metathoughts732 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@ericvonbloes2323
@ericvonbloes2323 Жыл бұрын
Remember that because you will be held to that standard if you boast of your sabbath keeping while you get mad at someone and murder him/her in your heart!! according to Gods Leson dont Judge another unless you are perfect which you or nob of us are..
@olgaburgos7780
@olgaburgos7780 Жыл бұрын
@@ericvonbloes2323 You misinterpreted what my defense of the Sabbath is all about.! My standard is Christ in me , His righteousness covering me, Is Father commandments respected and obeyed by Him for us, our trying to obey is not for salvation it is because we are saved already and love God and our neighbors as He commands us to do. We will be judged by our believing in Jesus paying for our failures , our good deeds are as filthy rags, I defend the keeping of the Sabbath and all the other nine , because Jesus died because of them , and His death is our salvation!
@JustinSmith-yy3dy
@JustinSmith-yy3dy 2 ай бұрын
As a newer Christian who was just baptized Easter 2024. I’ve been hugged by Jesus twice now. He has shown me yes he wants us to keep the sabbath (Saturday) but he does understand that where we are in this world more often than not a father/mother must work to support their families. Jesus healed the blind man on the sabbath and said if you must work on the sabbath make sure it’s for the right reasons. That being said … my children are getting older and I’m going to downsize and get out of the debt I currently carry and my journey will ultimately end up in me observing the sabbath to honor my king because I love him. But that won’t be held against me
@PassionForTruthVideo
@PassionForTruthVideo 2 ай бұрын
What an amazing testimony! HalleluYah! Blessings to you and you're family. Lisa - PFT Team.
@edwinadavid9761
@edwinadavid9761 Жыл бұрын
Good debate. I am a Sabbatherian, and will continue to be. If I am not required to keep the Sabbath, then I am not required to keep any of the laws. But if I steal or kill, I would be arrested etc etc. I am heaven bound, I refuse to follow the doctrines of "mere men". The Sabbath is forever. God said, I believe it and that settles it for me. Amen.
@SydneyBraithwate
@SydneyBraithwate Жыл бұрын
😊
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 Жыл бұрын
@@Rileyed quote---"The sabbath is kept in the contented heart".--unquote QUOTE that from the BIble!!!
@ofosudaniel-ff8si
@ofosudaniel-ff8si 10 ай бұрын
Abraham was righteous but wasn't given 10 commandments
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 10 ай бұрын
@@ofosudaniel-ff8si quote---Abraham was righteous but wasn't given 10 commandments. unquote LOL--ROFL--LMAO Was there a law against murder in the Garden of Eden??? ABSOLUTELY!!! God punished Cain for the murder of Abel!!! Cain was banished from the Garden!!! No law--No sin!!! Genesis 26:5 “Because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws.” ----The commandments, statutes and laws of God existed long before Moses. God simply used Moses to record and codify those laws for Israel when they agreed to the covenant (Exodus 19:8). God is the ultimate Lawgiver (Isaiah 33:22; James 4:12). ----Joseph understood the commandment against adultery when Potiphar’s wife tried to seduce him (Genesis 39:7-9). (LONG before MT. Sanai!!) ----Noah understood the laws about clean and unclean meats (Genesis 7:2). This law was later recorded in Leviticus 11. --------
@ofosudaniel-ff8si
@ofosudaniel-ff8si 10 ай бұрын
@mitchellosmer1293 Abraham was made was made righteous by the works of faith not works of the law. Ellen White has sent u ppl back to the days of galatians 3. And given u falsehood and controversies. The commandment of God given to Abraham is clear in the bible. I think you ppl would either judge Abraham that he committed adultery but God doesn't use adventist formula to judge. He stated clearly in Romans 14:5.6 one man esteemeth everyday alike let every man be persuaded in his own mind but u ppl choose to change the new testament and send xtian to the days of the law. Gal 3:10 states clearly curse is u who continues not to do all that in the book of the law not only ten commandments. The sabatth is fulfilled in christ Jesus mathew 11:28 come unto me all ye that weary and I will give you rest. This is the sabbath fulfilled in christ. If u claim christ didn't fulfill the law then u can teach elsewhere that he also didn't fulfill passover.Cos there are some sabatarians in Ghana who celebrat passover bcos Jesus kept passover while on earth ♥️
@christinebarnaby2873
@christinebarnaby2873 Жыл бұрын
If we sit n take a look at nature, the trees animals when the Sabbath is approaching the whole place get so peaceful and quiet. This tells us how special the Sabbath is ,when you keep rhe Sabbath as God ask at the end you feel so rested.
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 10 ай бұрын
So do you think the Apostles were pleasing to G-d when they never went to church on Saturday but instead did the work of evangelism on the Shabbat to non-believers at risk of life and limb, sometimes having rocks thrown at them and going to jail, or do you think G-d would have been more pleased if they went to church or Messianic Synagogues and sang and danced and had delicious pot-lucks? How about this Shabbat you go to the local Orthodox Jewish synagogue and share the Good News with the men and the women there at risk of your own well being? Now that would be something to brag about!
@ramonakatsaros5769
@ramonakatsaros5769 Жыл бұрын
I ❤️ love keeping the Sabbath.
@jumperstartful
@jumperstartful Жыл бұрын
dont forget if you miss the sabath you will be stoned to death or is that not in the Bible?
@ramonakatsaros5769
@ramonakatsaros5769 Жыл бұрын
@@jumperstartful Why would I miss the Sabbath it's starts Friday night to Saturday night the 7th day EXODUS 20 8 Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy . The LORD says if you love me keep my Commandments. He didn't say to forget any Commandments Peace in Jesus Mighty name ❤ Israel Church of Jesus Brother Elijah Israel
@juliemckenzie5960
@juliemckenzie5960 Жыл бұрын
@@jumperstartful Being stoned to death is the PENALTY of not upholding the law. Yeshua paid the price for us, so we do not have to pay the penalty because he paid it for us. -I hope this helps.
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 Жыл бұрын
@@jumperstartful quote----dont forget if you miss the sabath you will be stoned to death or is that not in the Bible?--unquote When I am sick, or my child is sick and can NOT go to church on the Sabbath, we will ALL go anyways!!! NO matter if she has Pneumonia or not. . Or a broken leg, ---- btw--quote that from Ex 20:8-11.
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 Жыл бұрын
@@juliemckenzie5960 quote---Being stoned to death is the PENALTY of not upholding the law. Yeshua paid the price for us, so we do not have to pay the penalty because he paid it for us. -I hope this helps.--unquote Once saved--always saved!!! No one can backslide.. Right???
@KDT227
@KDT227 9 ай бұрын
More people are converted to the Sabbath because of the opposing argument against the Sabbath…Thank you sir for showing that the Sabbath can’t be refuted….😊
@Roblox_Baconboi17
@Roblox_Baconboi17 Жыл бұрын
I love that Jim was shown to me! When I say my life changed 3 months ago!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼 I’m so glad I can connect with his teachings based on Bible science/history I like to say. I have since understood what it truly meant to give myself to Yahweh
@PassionForTruthVideo
@PassionForTruthVideo Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comments! May the Father continue to guide your path, bringing you closer to Him. Blessings - Vivi
@nathandada4189
@nathandada4189 Жыл бұрын
We not looking for the Sabbath but to Jesus without resurrection there is no Christianity,
@RS-ji6dl
@RS-ji6dl Жыл бұрын
​@@nathandada4189 open your eyes Jesus keeps the SABBATH. Jewish keeps the SABBATH. SABBATH is made for men. SABBATH is Sanctified by GOD
@verma9820
@verma9820 Жыл бұрын
Amen 💃🏽
@simonkolu
@simonkolu Жыл бұрын
@R S Jesus is the Sabbath, how can Jesus keep the Sabbath, He is the Sabbath, we receive Jesus as our lord and savior He is our rest
@francoismwaraknelson348
@francoismwaraknelson348 Жыл бұрын
The Bible is clear on the subject. The Sabbath was blessed and sanctified.
@Littlefair7
@Littlefair7 Жыл бұрын
You're right, the Bible is clear on the Torah as well as the sabbath, the Torah met its fulfillment in Christ, we have nothing to do with it, in John 3:16 it's even more clearer, salvation belongs to believers, it doesn't not say, all sabbath keepers will have eternal life, it rather says, whoever believes in Jesus.
@oceansveiws
@oceansveiws Жыл бұрын
Matthew 5:19-20 Matthew 5:19-20 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
@oceansveiws
@oceansveiws Жыл бұрын
Revelation 14:12 Revelation 12:17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring-those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus. Revelation 14:12 “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.”
@tubemate8530
@tubemate8530 Жыл бұрын
God wouldn't have used the word PERPETUAL for all your generations if He knew He was going to change His mind after a few hundreds of years
@Littlefair7
@Littlefair7 Жыл бұрын
@Tube Mate The same word was used to describe the brimstone in Sodom and gomorrah yet we don't have Sodom and gomorrah burning today. The same with the sabbath it was a perpetual in a sense that it lasted for a long time until Christ appeared. So when christ appeared, he fulfilled the law, he suffered the punishment death according to the law, now we're no longer slaves unto the law, today whoever claims to keep the law, is condemned.
@jared6137
@jared6137 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jim, you are sport on. The opponent cannot even tell the difference between the Moral law of God and the ceremonial laws
@donaldhove7894
@donaldhove7894 Жыл бұрын
Out of Curiosity, can you give a scriptural reference of Moral and ceremonial….
@josephmontano297
@josephmontano297 Жыл бұрын
All nations then are to keep the Sabbath,... My house shall be a house of prayers for all nations.
@bokelvin165
@bokelvin165 Жыл бұрын
Don’t you know that prayers and Sabbath are two different things, right? Careful, the devil’s mastery is deceptions, and perversion of the words of God in the bible. Watch for the lies of the devil! Watch out for the deception of the devil by twisting the very words of God.
@bokelvin165
@bokelvin165 Жыл бұрын
@@chucksmith4624 can you please show us a verse in the bible that Jesus and all the apostles of Jesus taught, that all nations to keep Sabbath? I am interested with that said verse/ verses.
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 4 ай бұрын
Where is his house? Where did he choose? Which nations?I need to know where this house is .
@rosasmat137
@rosasmat137 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this debate. I really believe that the holy day is the Sabbath. If we break one command, we are against the God’s law. So we must follow as what God intended to do. Follow God and not men. Thank you.
@richardallison8745
@richardallison8745 8 ай бұрын
This is what gets me messed up when someone says, "if we break one command, we are against God's Law". It is impossible for man to follow God's Leviticus Law. No one can follow the Law, that is the sole reason Jesus died on the cross so we would not have to do sacrifices nor follow a Law that we can't follow. If we violate just one little law, we are guilty of violating all of it and deserve Hell. I know Leviticus, says for us to keep the Sabbath forever but then when Christ died and the veil in the Temple was torn from the top to the bottom also told me that no more sacrifice is needed and I don't need a mediator between God and me and that we have a new Covenant. I have been a Christian for over 50 years and I will humble myself to say I studied this myself and I have no answer. I have no choice but to have faith that Jesus grants me Grace to have Salvation and to forgive me of any errors I have made because of my ignorance. I get comfort this way and I believe I will receive Grace and not be condemned either way.
@marcelarilloraza568
@marcelarilloraza568 Жыл бұрын
Upon watching this debate The more i have realized the stance of observing the sABBAth. To show to no one but to GOD our CREATOR my love and obedience to Him. I myself have read and learned about the sABBAth. I fear GOD THE ALMIGHTY. Thanked GOD my eyes opened!!!
@PassionForTruthVideo
@PassionForTruthVideo Жыл бұрын
Praise God! Welcome to the party of blessings!! 😊
@layleezymusic
@layleezymusic Жыл бұрын
Amen❤
@applerose5811
@applerose5811 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Pastor Staley, Without question,you have won this debate. You have presented the Truth of God's Word with clarity, and to the point.May God bless you,and your family tremendously. May He keep you steadfast,and unmoveable,as you continue to defend the truth of His Word. .
@PassionForTruthVideo
@PassionForTruthVideo Жыл бұрын
Praise Yah!
@KayleeWilson
@KayleeWilson 2 жыл бұрын
Great debat! Praise YHWH for the gift of His sabbath! Would like to see more debates like this with Jim 🙂
@philipusangjau7166
@philipusangjau7166 Жыл бұрын
Praise The Lord in Christ Jesus that both of them show coolness, maturity in faith, respect and Godly attitudes.
@motomotoabdul7982
@motomotoabdul7982 Жыл бұрын
Amen Pastor Chris! We are Under Grace Jesus is the only perfect one that can fulfill the Law. Our flesh is dead in Christ We walk in the spirit of God through Jesus Christ our Lord and Saviour. Jesus is our mediator not Ellen White. A new commandment I give you to Love one another like I have loved you. Even the Pharisees did not get it that Jesus is the Sabbath rest. Every day not only on Saturday.
@danielyunevekivri9514
@danielyunevekivri9514 Жыл бұрын
​@@motomotoabdul7982 Ellen G white didn't say she's mediator so bro just stop exaggerating already. Jesus, Jesus alone is the mediator
@FaithfulReasoning
@FaithfulReasoning Жыл бұрын
Jesus is the great gift not a day, keeping a day will not save you
@ralphquintero3350
@ralphquintero3350 Жыл бұрын
​@@motomotoabdul7982So why should I keep Sunday then? I haven't seen a single verse in the entire Bible that says that Sunday is sacred or that God sanctified or blessed!
@pureinvesting
@pureinvesting Жыл бұрын
The Sabbath is indeed a blessing and nothing with ever subtitute a day that GOD blessed and sanctified from the get go
@pamstaley24
@pamstaley24 Жыл бұрын
Relistened to this.....such a good exchange...well done Jim!
@mikejacobson14
@mikejacobson14 Жыл бұрын
I'm with the first guy, but Sabbath keeping will be a salvation issue once Sunday laws (aka 'mark of the beast') are instituted.
@brass1951
@brass1951 Жыл бұрын
"Sunday laws (aka' mark of the beast.') WOW!!!!! Spoken like a true Sabbatarian.
@mikejacobson14
@mikejacobson14 Жыл бұрын
@Gretna Vincent Spoken as someone who sees through the smoke of deception coming from everywhere else.
@brass1951
@brass1951 Жыл бұрын
@@mikejacobson14 will you please let me know where in the Bible it says Sunday laws are a mark of the beast???? That is deception at it's best!
@kingwater6596
@kingwater6596 Жыл бұрын
My Brothers and Sisters let us all agree on Jesus is Lord And that we love one another as He has loved us Yes we May not agree on somethings,but let us agree on the First part of this sentence
@Littlefair7
@Littlefair7 Жыл бұрын
There is no mention of Sunday laws in the entire scriptures, and nowhere does the bible teach that Sunday is the mark of the beast or sartuday is the seal of God, that's how we SDAs have long been brainwashed.
@erroledwards6110
@erroledwards6110 Жыл бұрын
Blessed are they that do His Commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. REV 22:14.
@charlesgugins381
@charlesgugins381 Жыл бұрын
Rev 22:14 does not refer to the 10 commandments. Gods commandments are whatever he says they are. Otherwise we would be free to be proud, gluttonous, etc.
@msladymack1960
@msladymack1960 Жыл бұрын
Amen...Love this verse... GOD never leaves us in the dark or not knowing. It's clear to me too, that John the Revelator is speaking of GOD'S HOLY 10 Commandments here. What always cheers my heart is that GOD HIMSELF wrote the 10 commandments with HIS finger (Deut.9:10). "And the Lord delivered unto me two tables of stone written with the finger of God; and on them was written according to all the words, which the Lord spake with you in the mount out of the midst of the fire in the day of the assembly." Deuteronomy 9:10 Even After Moses broke them, it was so important that GOD wrote them again. 😊❤ 📖🙏🏾.
@southernyankee2300
@southernyankee2300 Жыл бұрын
Sure it does - read on! For without are dogs and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and those who loveth and maketh a lie.” Dogs and whoremongers refers to prostitutes, fornicators and adulterers. So we have a breaking of Commandments 1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 just right in this statements. You should note that James tell us in chapter 2 : “ For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and YET OFFEND IN ONE POINT, he is guilty of all. For He that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.” Why is it that the only commandment that starts with the word “Remember” is the one despised and buried by people who say they love and follow the Lord? If you love Jesus you will keep His commandments “and His commandments are not grievous “
@alegitimateonlinebusiness3133
@alegitimateonlinebusiness3133 Жыл бұрын
@@southernyankee2300 You hit the nail right on the proverbial head, brother !
@vilileleisiuao
@vilileleisiuao Жыл бұрын
@@southernyankee2300 Paul said in Philippines 3;2. Beware of dogs and evil workers, teachers of the law. For without are dogs because they deceived many people. Colossians 2;8. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit after the tradition of men after the rudiments of the world and not after Christ. Let no one judge you on Sabbath day for they are shadow but the substance is Christ .
@EvaPamatian
@EvaPamatian 11 ай бұрын
True, the Ten commandments are summed up to 2 -Love for GOD and love for our neighbors. The 1st 4 commandments are love for for GOD and the last 6 - love for our fellowmen.
@Its_Sheeraw
@Its_Sheeraw 5 ай бұрын
And we love God through obedience...Bible:- IF you LOVE me, keep my Commandments
@tiffanytodd1184
@tiffanytodd1184 Жыл бұрын
Saturday is the seventh day that our Father God Sanctified for Praise and Rest. People get the first day of the week confused with business day ( Monday- Friday) Sunday IS the first day..
@annalabrador8727
@annalabrador8727 Жыл бұрын
From now on I'm keeping the Sabbath, I'm convinced now about the truth Sabbath
@lindationsadventures
@lindationsadventures Жыл бұрын
Amen!! Praise the Lord!!
@melvindawson4736
@melvindawson4736 Жыл бұрын
Same
@Ljoy23
@Ljoy23 Жыл бұрын
@Anna Labrador I rejoice in your happiness
@rachelnjerirnn423
@rachelnjerirnn423 Жыл бұрын
Welcome, I enjoy keeping and resting on sabbath day
@MBVXONIDE
@MBVXONIDE Жыл бұрын
I agree there are so many of our brothers I wish the Calvinist’s would examine this
@varijames7727
@varijames7727 Жыл бұрын
Sabbath is there for eternity. Thank God for helping me to come out of this great deception we did not know until your word came clear in my mind. To God be the glory
@knyckname3295
@knyckname3295 Жыл бұрын
The New Moon establishes the first day of the month and the seventh day is the Sabbath...Saturday Sabbath is pagan and follows the pagan god Saturn and Saturday has always been his day. TMH YAH created the sun and the moon for times, seasons and Holy Days, therefore the Sabbath is determined by the moon.
@Solideogloria00
@Solideogloria00 Жыл бұрын
Why do you say that Vari? It sounds like you have been deceived :(
@geowat2198
@geowat2198 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that Chris keeps using other man's interpretations to defend his aurguments, while Stan just uses the Word of God. If I am to chose between the two directions as to what should be followed, rest assured it would be God's Word.
@astavasalauskaite726
@astavasalauskaite726 Жыл бұрын
Wow, it was amazing! 🙏 I hope there were people who heard the Good News from you Jim 🙏.
@tammyibarra2313
@tammyibarra2313 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention I would love to point out that 1 One answer is very humbly the other 1 has to throw sarcasm in which is to edify self 101 in Psychology
@codestramicx1150
@codestramicx1150 2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree!
@serendipidy
@serendipidy Жыл бұрын
Most lawless people are very arrogant like „ugh we are Christians, we don’t have to do squad. The law is for those Jews but not for us because we are so much better than them.“ Makes me angry. No point arguing with them. Jim just presented his point with logic and scripture. Perfect.
@JANJAN-lw2sc
@JANJAN-lw2sc Жыл бұрын
The Sabbath is the holy day even Jesus him self rested on that day
@princelucio
@princelucio Жыл бұрын
I agree 👍
@inchristalone25
@inchristalone25 Жыл бұрын
@@serendipidy How do you explain this verse then? “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ” (Colossians 2:16-17)
@victorw2008
@victorw2008 Жыл бұрын
KJV Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
@tubemate8530
@tubemate8530 Жыл бұрын
Good verse!!
@ladyu.p4268
@ladyu.p4268 Жыл бұрын
The sabbath was from creation, it will be there until Jesus return to take us to heaven, we will keep the sabbath in the kingdom mad new, from one sabbath to another and from new moon to another we will go to worship before the Lord🙌🙌🙌🙌🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@maggiemae7539
@maggiemae7539 Жыл бұрын
There will be no moon in Heaven
@ExcelGeno-nc8vn
@ExcelGeno-nc8vn Жыл бұрын
Salute you Jim Staley, you are God's vessel in this last day for giving the world message of the Sabbath in a Deabte forum. Sabbath is a blessing from God today and forever. AMEN.
@PassionForTruthVideo
@PassionForTruthVideo Жыл бұрын
Thank you! What a blessing to be able to enjoy His Shabbat every week with Him and His people!
@ExcelGeno-nc8vn
@ExcelGeno-nc8vn Жыл бұрын
@@PassionForTruthVideo Amennnnnnn& Amen
@ExcelGeno-nc8vn
@ExcelGeno-nc8vn Жыл бұрын
Thanks to God for Jim Staley, I saw the the leading of the Holy Spirit in his debate. However, Chris Rosbro Hermeneutics explanations are are out of context and also Hermenutically misleading.
@NatashaPaikea
@NatashaPaikea 11 ай бұрын
Thank you pastor Jim .I'm.also a Sabbath keeper and im really blessed with this debates.🙏❤️
@ritamiria7942
@ritamiria7942 11 ай бұрын
Dear friend I know many talk about Sabbath and love to be Sabbath keepers but I just wanted to ask one Question? I am truly wandering why 100s of Adventist Pastors are leaving the SDA Church and heading home to ROME.... Converting to Catholicism.. Because as far as I know CATHOLICS AND ADVENTIST ARE GREAT ENEMIES... Our Pastors study theology so to become our shepherd but *** the more they know they Begin to Discover the Truth and that truth is only found in the Catholic Church and that is why all our Pastors are heading home to ROME where the Truth is EMBRACED and NATURED.... JUST IMAGINE THE RIGHTFUL PEOPLE TO LEAD US ARE ALL HEADING HOME TO ROME LEAVING BEHIND THE SHEEP .... DEAR FRIEND JUST SEE FOR YOUR SELF... HOW COME EVERY PASTORS FROM ACROSS THE WORLD FROM ALL DENOMINATIONS AND RELIGIONS ARE COMING HOME TO ROME... NOTHING BUT TRUTH...
@luegordon6774
@luegordon6774 8 ай бұрын
​​@AnthonyIbibi That is true what you said here. However, the 7th day happens to be Saturday which is also the Sabbath. It's like saying Sunday is the first day of the week, but it is a day for worship. 🙏
@kerrianwellington5268
@kerrianwellington5268 Жыл бұрын
Bless you Jim. Stand for holiness
@dorisbrown1921
@dorisbrown1921 Жыл бұрын
Do you noticed where each debater gets their info from? Jim Staley is getting his from the Bible and the history, culture , and traditions of the followers of messiah, and Chris was using a lot of info from what people wrote about, or what this scholar said.
@ldd7781
@ldd7781 Жыл бұрын
Yes why is he not using the Bible his debate is weak
@thechronicillnessdiaries2773
@thechronicillnessdiaries2773 9 ай бұрын
Yes. It's always this way. Messianics get their views from the Bible. Christians repeatedly cite the church fathers.
@CalvinRajan
@CalvinRajan 9 ай бұрын
Very true. Most Christians(so-called) don't study or know their Bible. You would often hear them say, "My pastor said..........." Instead, a true seeker of truth would say, "It is written.......Just as Jesus did.
@WimrheyLaguna
@WimrheyLaguna 11 ай бұрын
The Sabbath is a golden clasp that unites God and His People.
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 7 ай бұрын
Yes the people of Israel the covenant the Sabbath is covenant between God and the children of Israel ,his people , the golden clasp not remove the name Israel
@hannahbowers1469
@hannahbowers1469 7 ай бұрын
Yes the people of Israel the covenant the Sabbath is covenant between God and the children of Israel ,his people , the golden clasp not remove the name Israel
@SfundoZulu-f2z
@SfundoZulu-f2z Жыл бұрын
The Sabbath is a sign between God and his children. Sunday for the adversary who sit in the temple of God showing himself that he is God
@ritamiria7942
@ritamiria7942 11 ай бұрын
Whom did God the Father and Jesus gave the Divine will to *** HELLEN G WHITE OR SIMON PETER ***
@verdadabsoluta9756
@verdadabsoluta9756 10 ай бұрын
​@@ritamiria7942To those who obey him!
@verdadabsoluta9756
@verdadabsoluta9756 10 ай бұрын
Preach it brother! This statement reveals the plan of satan!
@Dedude65
@Dedude65 Жыл бұрын
This is amazing, i would choose you have nothing to loose to keep Sabbath.. a specials day for intimacy. All the complicated facts and interpretations are less important to our act striving to love and please Him. Nothing to loose to love him and honor His rest day as the day of the Lord..
@sherripeterson3427
@sherripeterson3427 Жыл бұрын
Sabbath is my favorite day Sabbath is a gift Sabbath is rest Going to church and spending time with other Christians can be any day
@YoungSakimo
@YoungSakimo Жыл бұрын
If GOd rested and blessed the Sabbath. He even said to keep it Holly. That's what make the Sabbath day special 🎉🎉🎉
@olgaburgos7780
@olgaburgos7780 Жыл бұрын
In the same manner; in Jesus we rest every day. The problem is when men call Sunday the Sabbath, because it is not. Let us live in His gospel rest every day, but , as Jesus did, go to church on Saturday which is the blessed day and sanctified!
@olgaburgos7780
@olgaburgos7780 Жыл бұрын
Jesus Is the end of the law for us trying to keep it for salvation, He kept it for us perfectly, He didn’t eliminated nor ended it, the Law still stands for us to be sanctified and doing the works that we were created to do for. We do the works because we honor Him, obey Him by loving our neighbors as God said to do when He gave the Law. Not for salvation but for love to all His creation!. 📖✝️🙏❤️
@olgaburgos7780
@olgaburgos7780 Жыл бұрын
😮In all AD times, Sabbath was kept and taught by the Apostles, and by all converted to Jesus belief and His salvation. Always the faithful kept the Sabbath only the non believers, under the laws of Rome kept Sunday and wrongly called Sabbath.
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 Жыл бұрын
That's not what Jesus or the Apostles did on Sabbath.
@natalyrestokian8981
@natalyrestokian8981 Жыл бұрын
Amazing debate thank you for this information it brings clearer understanding to keeping the sabbath . I was crying in the end when the brother said that he follows the God of the church Alleluia Thank you brothers . Happy sabbath to all
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 11 ай бұрын
Interestingly the church in Acts met everyday.
@EuricanHimboole-f8x
@EuricanHimboole-f8x 9 ай бұрын
Was blessed by the debate. Watching on u tube from Zambia. Keep up more of such.
@JasonWilliams-pm7fq
@JasonWilliams-pm7fq 2 жыл бұрын
Argument would’ve been over if the the distinction was made between the Law OF Moses and The Law Of God. They are not the same. One was nailed to the cross while the other wasn’t. The Law of Moses were the ceremonial laws! The 10 commandments were not ceremonial. Both need to go back and review so they can reinforce their argument. The Torah was not placed inside the Ark Of The Covenant, yet the 10 commandments were. There are numerous distinctions between the two. Ceremonial Laws were the shadow, not the 10 commandments.
@charitybrook6279
@charitybrook6279 2 жыл бұрын
The curse of the law was nailed to the cross, not the blessings. All are guilty of breaking the law, we have the curses against us and by accepting faith in Jesus, those curses are removed, leaving only blessings. The whole reason we even NEED a Savior is because we have broken God's Holy Law. All of the law and the prophets hang off of love the Lord your God and love your neighbor as yourself. The 10 shows the basics of how to do this, and the rest show the application. Stop adding and taking away from God's Law. Walk as Jesus walked.
@talinaucabalavu9963
@talinaucabalavu9963 Жыл бұрын
This is so true. I wished they knew the difference between the two laws.
@talinaucabalavu9963
@talinaucabalavu9963 Жыл бұрын
Jason Williams I totally agree!
@mikebrown9850
@mikebrown9850 Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@inchristalone25
@inchristalone25 Жыл бұрын
How do you explain this verse then? “Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ” (Colossians 2:16-17)
@laarnisuico3808
@laarnisuico3808 Жыл бұрын
Sabbath is the sign between God and man
@julianapatrick7451
@julianapatrick7451 Жыл бұрын
God and His chosen people!
@maggiemae7539
@maggiemae7539 Жыл бұрын
@@julianapatrick7451they rejected Jesus! Then the Gospel went to the Gentiles! When you receive Salvation you are grafted into the Vine. Jesus is the Vine!
@laarnisuico3808
@laarnisuico3808 11 ай бұрын
We are the grafted Israelite through Jesus and love God above all and ur fellowmen as urselves then if u love Me keep My commandments including the 4rth coz Jesus did not come to break the law but to fulfill, the beginning and end
@verdadabsoluta9756
@verdadabsoluta9756 10 ай бұрын
​@@kac0404The sabbath IS a memorial of God's deliverance from sin! And what is sin? Transgression of God's law! Be not deceived!
@TinaSilvestro-s1b
@TinaSilvestro-s1b Жыл бұрын
THE FOURTH COMMANDAMENT REVEAL THE NAME OF GOD. HIS TITLE AND HIS TERRITORY HIS LAW REVEAL HIS CHARACTER THE LAW OF LOVE THAT LAST FOREVER
@PassionForTruthVideo
@PassionForTruthVideo Жыл бұрын
Amen
@heathercochrane1742
@heathercochrane1742 9 ай бұрын
A very interesting debate. At the end of the day each person will have a choice to make , whether to obey and follow God or the church fathers. By God's grace I will follow the truth in God's Word.
@dorrettedennis9614
@dorrettedennis9614 Жыл бұрын
Great debate contents really researched certainly captivating I am however more convinced with the argument that the law including the 7th day sabbath is still to be honored and kept 🙏 both debaters did extremely well 👏
@Yah150
@Yah150 Жыл бұрын
Shalom! Thank you for your comments. Blessings! Dr. Moreh Yeshu
@jbangz2023
@jbangz2023 Жыл бұрын
wrong
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 Жыл бұрын
The old system under the law of Moses was only a shadow, a dim preview of the good things to come, not the good things themselves. The sacrifices under that system were repeated again and again, year after year, but they were never able to provide perfect cleansing for those who came to worship.
@toddott633
@toddott633 Жыл бұрын
The whole law, or just the commandments that are easy and convenient? The ten commandments do not stand alone. They are a summary of the 613. There are many commandments that explain and expound on the worship of God. There are many commandments that explain and expound on murder and adultery. There are many that explain the sabbaths. Many that explain stealing. And not just the commands, but the penalties for disobeying. If you are attempting to keep the ten, you must keep them all. All 613 that explain and expound on the ten. Break one commandment and you've broken them all. Scripture is clear on this.
@MongweAmone
@MongweAmone Жыл бұрын
Hallelujah
@irisv84
@irisv84 Жыл бұрын
Wow!!! GREAT DEBATE!!! HAPPY SABBATH DAY on the 7th day!!!
@maryblessing2205
@maryblessing2205 11 ай бұрын
Pastor Jim Staley you have made the bestselling argument for the Fourth Commandment. Thank you. ❤❤❤
@AliceNathan-h5e
@AliceNathan-h5e 10 ай бұрын
Amen!!!. Best Selling Argument!! I'm commenting from Papua New Guinea. Lots of Sunday keeping churches in Papua New Guinea have turned into Sabbath keeping churches bcoz the Holy Spirit has led them to do so.!! Brother Chris You are deviating from the Bible!!!
@ofosudaniel-ff8si
@ofosudaniel-ff8si 10 ай бұрын
You are misled let them read acts 20:7 those Christians are misled if the Sabbaths can save then christ should not have come. Sabbath is fulfilled in christ. If u don't observe passover as did christ and the jews then you have done nothing.read gal3:10
@Calico_life
@Calico_life 8 ай бұрын
The truth is the truth and it will make us Free. Halleluyah!
@georgeal3784
@georgeal3784 Жыл бұрын
I will pray for pastor Rosebrough, for YHWH to show him the truth the same way He has shown it to so many christians lately.
@wademckenzie5133
@wademckenzie5133 Жыл бұрын
Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it Holy ❤
@icepick3528
@icepick3528 Жыл бұрын
Oy vey!
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 11 ай бұрын
Where does it say that?
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 11 ай бұрын
Since no one wanted to handle that questions I will answer it. It says that in the book of Exodus Chapter 35 right before it says this: "Whoever does any work on it is to be put to death." How come the Sabbath braggers never seem to know the whole verse?
@ikpokijonathan9149
@ikpokijonathan9149 10 ай бұрын
@@metathoughts732 of course, we keep it.
@metathoughts732
@metathoughts732 10 ай бұрын
Do you kill people who work on Saturday? That is what the Bible says you should do on the Sabbath. Maybe you don't get that far with your "Keeping the Sabbath" but are you at all trying to? Exodus 35 @@ikpokijonathan9149
@jubilynjamesaus453
@jubilynjamesaus453 Жыл бұрын
JESUS said "If you love Me Keep My commandments 1 John 4:8 and Exodus 20:8 "Remember the Sabbath day toi keep it holy"He knows people will forget it"Me n hubby n most familly keep the sabbath.He gave it to from the beginning. GOD bless u all
@cheelong72
@cheelong72 5 ай бұрын
The reason I quit corporate 'church' is because the pastors actually make cases to NOT obey the Bible and use mans interpretation to disprove what the Bible actually says.
@eleazargulayan
@eleazargulayan Жыл бұрын
That's true,; that the Sabbath of God is from sunset of Friday to sunset of Saturday
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