Should Churches Tithe Money To Israel? Romans

[@robertbobby3325]

your studies are always so much more than just what is in the description and I love it. such a blessing. thank you

[@modishmade]

Wow, I had paused this teaching a while back and never got to finish until today and the last part of it came JUST in time for what’s I needed to hear. How wonderfully Holy Spirit moves through you and the light of Jesus shines brother. Thank you for your ministry.

[@firmfoundation5992]

I really love the wisdom and study which goes into all Pastor Winger's sermons. The tithe is a difficult issue in the modern day church though. Tithing to Israel is because tithing used to happen in Israel, in the form of harvest and flocks only. If the produce was not from the land of Israel, you could not tithe. Even Jews at the time living outside Israel could not tithe. Tithing to Israel today, is as strange as tithing to your local church in the present day. The Apostle Paul only taught about giving free will offerings, according to your income and not according to compulsion. The question should rather be....should we tithe in the new covenant?

[@justjosie8963]

Same, I'd rather have great Bible study rather than 45minutes of acting, stories, pounding a subject that could be wrapped up in a 3 minute sentence or two. So many people seem to think "going to church" equates to being a Christian.

[@RUT812]

So true! My husband and I moved out of the country for our retirement years, but I continue watching my church’s Sunday services on KZbin because I love my pastor’s sermons. They’re always 100% biblical, and he almost always presents his messages in outline form, which is not repetitive and is much easier to follow. He always gives us the key concept we’re supposed to understand. He’s not an emotional man. He simply speaks The Truth of God’s Word. I don’t know where I’ll find another church like that, and I’ll add that it’s a growing church, with people regularly getting saved and baptized.

[@davidtolentino4358]

I like his speeches. It helps me remember the apostles teachings. A whole lot better than my previous church pastors who are blind guides to the flock of Christ.

[@lesleenichols9517]

I am addicted to your studies. You always stick to God’s word. I can see how much you love the Lord. You help us sharpen our swords for spiritual battles.

[@twiceadopted7147]

I love your direct and truthful approach to bible study. Christ exudes from your teaching. I appreciate your explanation of tithing and supporting those in ministry in the local church. I hail from northern Michigan and am always blessed by your videos. Keep on.

[@krustysurfer]

Thank you Mike for clarifying any questions that a lot of us have as followers of the way God bless you and yours and the whole body of Christ

[@abc-nk1jk]

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[@lookielooZ]

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[@republiccooper]

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[@thatguy6789]

You work very hard to try to bring good to a lot of people. Just wanted to say thanks

[@kypatriot7037]

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[@defiance1790]

“There’s a time to walk into persecution and a time to run. I’d say if God isn’t giving wisdom to do so...... run” 😂

[@Truth537]

Mike I think your teaching is excellent and I am quite blessed by it. Great job!

[@toddkeeran3479]

On my own I can do nothing, but with God all things are possible.

[@bethplavidal4129]

🙌🙌🙌 Yes Yes thanks good stuff. A church I'm not longer apart of only would give to those outside the church to get ppl in the church and once there they no longer helped made me sick. As long as the "apostle" had 2 homes, 8 cars etc etc.

[@nathandelatorre7265]

Hey brother, I love your videos I’ve learned a lot, I was wondering in all humility if you can make a video if it’s biblical to tithe and what it means in the NT

[@The.Modern.Crunch]

I agree!

[@graftme3168]

There is a pastor who says tithing is not NT teaching. He believes in giving according to what you determine in your own heart as Paul teaches. He asks that you don't give if you can't fulfill your other obligations, such as feeding your family and paying off debt. He asks that you don't give to his ministry if you are not born again. This same pastor has been preaching over 50 years, has built 50 churches with cash, and never had any debt in his personal life or in his ministry. He doesn't live in luxury or with excess. THAT is a man of God! I tend to believe that preachers short change their ministry by teaching tithing rather than giving according to one's own willingness and heart. I tend to think tithing gives us a mindset of limits rather than freedom to give from the inward attitude of the heart. It's like the Bible says, with the law is the conscience of sin." It also says that the law actually draws us toward sin! Quit laying down laws that have nothing to do with salvation and live the life of liberty that gives us the freedom to serve from the heart rather than "the letter of the law." For the law kills, but the Spirit gives life."

[@johnnyjohnson1370]

Andrew Farley teaches on tithing and the truth about it being under OT law

[@lavieenrose5954]

Tithing is a part of the Law of Moses which we’re not under and never have been..

[@lindarobey8935]

Monetary tithing is a man-made doctrine. Biblical tithing in the OT was always agricultural (crops, flocks and herds) from the land of Israel. (Leviticus 27:30-34). God never gave the Church a command to tithe...and never did He give the children of Israel a command to tithe their money, even though money was available and used in the OT. The standard for Christian giving is 2 Corinthians 9:7 2 Corinthians 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

[@donnabudd3713]

If you want to give to Israel Christians should give to those organizations that preach the gospel.

[@deathangel523]

That seems logical.

[@TheChurchIsLikenUntoTheMoon]

Yes so they accept Jesus Christ as their Savior

[@inmyopinion651]

Preach the gospel in todays Isreal you will be arrested. Even at the Jerusalem embassy opening with all the so called evangelical pastors speaking I think the name of Jesus was mentioned 1 time. It was pathetic really.

[@RUT812]

@@inmyopinion651 There are Christians who defend Israel no matter what they do.

[@joyjeffcoat8711]

I believe a church should tithe to Israel and not just believers. They are still God's chosen people

[@sylleryum]

Amen, very good

[@mikevan4970]

wow like always Mike incredible. but what do we do about the people that tell us God wanted them to tell us this or God sent them to us. God didn't even talk to Mary he sent an angel. why do people think that he talks to them so much. sometimes I look at it like there's a sickness in the church. but you said it Pastor Mike. we do make our own decisions and we cannot blame everything on God. just pray at the crossroads brother

[@thatguy6789]

I agree some people pretty much claim to speak to God on the phone every day it is sinister and manipulative. Although i think that some people are referring to the warmth and love we feel inside when speaking to God and thanking him etc the feeling of love which feels as though it is coming from an external source. Like sometimes i wonder if i have did the right thing in a certain situation and will pray for advice, i will then try to assess if i was right or wrong by the emotion i feel inside when praying. Difficult to tell if it is just my own moral compass making me feel that way but when speaking (praying) to God the emotion inside me feels different to how it usually does

[@emf49]

Yes, I just roll my eyes - metaphorically speaking - at people who supposedly hear from God every 5 minutes - but then again, I am an older Christian and 'have been around the block a few times'. What bothers me about these 'types' is that young believers feel there is something wrong with them because they don't experience that same sort of 'leading' and can become frustrated and deslondent. It annoys me that this sort of thing is seldom corrected from 'the pulpit' but rather these people are often elevated as examples of those who 'hear from God'. This is utter nonsense and extremely unwise. As Jesus says, the blind leading the blind!!

[@jborrego2406]

Didn’t god talk to Moses an let him see him walk pass too

[@jayman1338]

How did you make it where, between you and the back wall, it kind of looks 3D?

[@lelendkendrickmd4393]

Yes we should tithes to the church we attend I am a Christian and was saved at age 12 Salvation comes thru repentance Of our sins And repent and ask for forgiveness of our sins and gods grace thru faith He forgives us and gives us the Holy Spirit and immediately saved Paul was directed by god in everything he did He went the direction god directed him He had a special mission Directed by god Gods will not Paul’s will We tithe to our church It provides for our church It provides for Missions Charity Gods Work Paul made tents he was self employed God provides for all our needs So Paul did not need anything God supplied his needs And this showed others he was not Doing it for personal gain As for tithing god wants nothing if it does not come from our heart

[@goesthadistance]

Thank you.

[@arielcuster6660]

As a person who makes money with salesmanship, it has irked me when Mike makes emphatic disclaimers about not making money on something or other. I get it better after watching this. ❤️ I love hearing what people’s problems are, offering them solutions, celebrating their success, and pouring myself out in service through the whole process. That’s what true sales should be.

[@zacharydaniels3186]

Here is a different theory about why Paul was going himself to Jerusalem and taking with him a tithe (and it probably WAS a tithe and you will see why). Deut 26:12-13 12 “When you have finished laying aside all the tithe of your increase in the third year-the year of tithing-and have given it to the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, so that they may eat within your gates and be filled, 13 then you shall say before the Lord your God: ‘I have removed the holy tithe from my house, and also have given them to the Levite, the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, according to all Your commandments which You have commanded me; I have not transgressed Your commandments, nor have I forgotten them." Paul taught Torah and kept the feasts in Jerusalem, which is why he went himself instead of sending the tithe with someone else.

[@willelkins8225]

Romans 10:9-10 "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved

[@sergiobenavides3696]

Not to Israel nor to any Christian Church for tithing it's not in the N.T, in the N.T the only way of giving is offering, and it doesn't nessesary have to bring to the pastor ,if your neighbor has a son seek you can give you offering to that person

[@factorc5058]

Great video, but why isn't it in the Romans verse by verse playlist?

[@deathangel523]

No, these people must not study the complete bible. God does is not on the throne in Israel today. People need to stop worshipping Israel.

[@SusanMorales]

There’s a church that ends their teaching collecting an offering and the pastor asking people to seal the message like a pact with God this way. It seemed strange to me. They also teach to give tithes.

[@bkucenski]

Tithing is not nearly as difficult as people make it out to be. Since modern churches don't have a storehouse and only focus on the ministry, I set aside 10% of my income to an investment account. At the end of the tithe year, the church gets 10% of the tithe, the heave offering, and 90% of it is given away for God's work. So if you take home $50,000, then $5,000 is tithed, $500 goes to your church, and $4500 goes to the material needs of people through whatever you want. You can give the money to food banks or other community organizations. You can give the money away directly. You can buy things people need. The churches struggle with the tithe because they want to rob God in tithes and use all the money for vanity projects and lining their own pockets.

[@markb7067]

At least if tithes were paid to Israel it would be one step towards it being biblical. All you have to do next is resurrect the temple, find some Levites, move to Israel, adopt all of the ordinances under Mosaic Law, and become a cattle raiser or farmer.

[@Diana-xm1dm]

Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and what belongs to God to God. James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion before God and the Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their trouble, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world. If Christians that attend Church do not tithe now, how is the Church suppose to tithe 10% from its budget? I suppose 10% X 0 = 0.

[@proverbs2522]

Honestly the catholic church has enough resources to actively feed every hungry person on earth every meal everyday. They have no excuses. They don’t even feed their own flock though because of how selfish and greedy they are. I was so poor and hungry in America as a catholic child and no matter how many times my mother asked our priest to help he refused. Not just him but all other priests we visited never helped even once. The truly messed up thing is our priest was best friends with my father who was a drunk. My mother has physical handicaps that made her unable to work even though she tried. So the fact we were abandoned by the church still pisses me off. I don’t care who you are if you claim catholics are going to heaven I guarantee only the ones who go against catholic dogmas and are true Christians will. Even priests are greedy. They have all that gold in the church worshipping alongside the other idols completely ignoring the commandments of God.

[@Joseph221b]

'In Jesus' name' So is John 14:13 just for the apostles or am I not understanding that passage? Thanks

[@graftme3168]

Verse 12 seems to answer that question. "Whoever believes in Me..." But, "in Jesus name" would imply asking according to truth and the will of God. Just saying "in the name of Jesus" doesn't mean we are actually asking in the name of Jesus. "You ask but have not because you ask amiss, to consume it in your lusts." What are we asking for, and why?

[@joantadisch2872]

@@graftme3168 You gave a great explanation for Joseph 221b's question and quoting James 4:3 nails it. Thank you so much.

[@graftme3168]

@@joantadisch2872 It's nice to get a positive response when contending for faith and doctrine. It's a rarity! Thanks, and God bless!

[@kevinschaefer3945]

@@graftme3168 This would also be supported by v. 15 when He reminds us that if we love Him we will keep His commandments. This is not some arbitrary addition, but a reminder of what our attitude and motives need to be.

[@kimberlyd7398]

First of all!! Tithing is false teaching!! If we are not under the law!! Yes we shld give!! Give generously! Under Grace ✝️🙏🏻✝️🙏🏻🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@ebuonvicino7791]

PS.....Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces (wealth) of the Gentiles shall come unto thee (Israel). Isaiah 60:5 Just saying......... It is biblical to give money to the land of Israel. Oh and if it bothers you that it's an Old Testament scripture then you will have to throw out all of the beautiful promises in the Old Testament "I know the plans I have for you, plans to prosper you and not to harm you...." and many more - including prophecy that has yet to be fulfilled found in the Old Testament. xoxoxo

[@christopherwalls4337]

That is an interesting verse. However, if you are going to use Isaiah 60:5 to say that it is biblical to give money to the land of Israel today, shouldn't the rest of that passage be occurring today as well? The next verse says that camels will cover the land of Israel, and "all from Sheba will come, bearing gold and incense and proclaiming the praise of the LORD." That would mean that these gifts being given to Israel are part of these other nations giving praise to God. Verse 7 goes on to say that flocks from Kedar will come to the land and be used as offerings on the altar, which could only take place when there is a temple to God in Israel. If verse 7 cannot apply today because there is no temple, and there are not people bringing in gold and incense from Sheba to Israel as part of their praise to the one true God, why is verse 5 being applied in isolation from that passage? Just a small study in context here, which Mike does often in his messages. Might also consider studying Jeremiah 29 as well, since verse 11 is the promise you mentioned from the OT. This pastor is not ignoring the OT, but he is making sure that he understands the context before be misapplies a passage.

[@willielee5253]

E Buonvicino, Jesus Christ is now the High Priest in heaven and on the earth, that was one of His purposes for coming Those that keep their money will be poor in God's heaven. To sow or give sparingly will reap the same but a liberal soul will be made fat, that and reflects one's attitude of heart towards others and God and life in general. He is the one that gives increase. God bless!!!

[@romacorinthians6105]

🤨no way!

[@greentree730]

Do you have a word on just the ten percent tithe? I have studied...it not about Israel...does God require a ten percent tithe...

[@graftme3168]

No. New Testament giving is giving according to what you have and as you determine in your own heart.

[@cjjohn4805]

Hmmmm.

[@johnnyjohnson1370]

America gives so much to Israel. Rightfully so. It’s our tax money so America is giving to this precious country

[@ebuonvicino7791]

Tithing is in the New Testament - You seem like a very sweet good man and your followers seem very kind, but I encourage you to look into this a little deeper :) But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: THESE OUGHT YE TO HAVE DONE, and not to leave the other undone. Luke 11:42 AND And here men that die receive tithes; but there HE receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth. Hebrews 7:8 (When we tithe we witness that Jesus is alive) ..... For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. Matthew 6:21.... unfortunately our unwillingness to tithe under the New Covenant is merely revealing our hardened hearts - just a few things the Holy Spirit taught me...... And I'll end with this (I am not a pastor btw so I have no motive) - And He sat down opposite the treasury, and began observing how the people were putting money into the treasury… Mark 12:41 (NASB) - He's watching what we do with our money :)

[@christopherwalls4337]

I agree that Jesus is watching what we do with our money (of course He is watching everything else as well). I'm not sure I follow how you quoting Luke 11:42 (which specifically says that the Pharisees should be tithing along with ensuring justice and loving God) means that a non-Jewish person is required to tithe. The book of Hebrews is named such because it's initial target audience was Hebrew Christians (i.e. Messianic Jews). 7:8 is making a contrast between the tithe given to Melchizedek and the tithe given to the Levites. Interestingly enough, the tithe given by Abraham was not described necessarily as required, was it? It was a beautiful thing, and certainly pointed to giving to Jesus, but was it a requirement? I want to make sure I don't come across as someone who says "don't give". However, the issue being raised here, if I am not mistaken, is that you believe that tithing is a requirement to the Gentile Christians, and I simply don't see that stated explicitly in Scripture. The Scripture is, however, filled with verses talking about joyfully giving to the Lord. This is a freewill offering of love, not a requirement. I personally believe that everyone who can give should give, but I will not dictate a certain amount because I can find nowhere in Scripture that commands a Gentile believer to give a certain amount. the tithe (10%) would be a good baseline, though, because of its OT connotations, but would not be a requirement.

[@MiddleTennesseeLiving]

Technically, the "New Testament" began after the death/resurrection of Christ. Nevertheless, a lot of pastors and denominations wrongfully cite this as proof text that Jesus taught New Covenant tithing, and therefore is to be obeyed by Christians. However, Scripture must always be understood and applied within its proper context. To properly understand these passages, one must understand to whom Jesus was speaking. Jesus was not speaking to Christians, but instead He was speaking to non-Christian Jews, or “Teachers of The Law.” And such Jews (who have not accepted Christ's free gift of salvation) were obligated to obey the Mosaic Law, and thus were required to tithe (if "farmers"), as Jesus rightly pointed out. Within this context, Jesus used tithing as an example of the Mosaic Law which these hypocritical Jewish leaders kept legalistically (even if they didn't farm) while neglecting the underlying principles of the Mosaic Law- justice, mercy, and faithfulness. Jesus could have chosen a different example of the Mosaic Law, such as, "...you diligently offer unblemished animals for sacrifice, but you have neglected the weightier provisions of the law..." and the underlying meaning or lesson of this passage would have remained the same. Furthermore, if you tithe only 10%, then you do not truly tithe according to the Scriptures because you tithe only 10% annually. If you desire to tithe (according to the Scriptures) then you must tithe at least 23 & 1/3% annually because that was the minimum annual "tithe" under the Old Covenant. The minimum annual tithe was never only 10%. This is helpful... listen to this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHvRoH-jlrJ8nck

[@brianmoore581]

@@MiddleTennesseeLiving excellent post. I was about to say much of the same things, but after reading your post I don't think I have anything to add.

[@Marixpress2]

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[@1gumbah]

No no no no no

[@chantaljarratt6417]

Give to god whst belong to god and give to cesar was belong to cesar dont try to figth the davil in his terrytory

[@lelendkendrickmd4393]

Why would we. Tithe to israel

[@ayatan9119]

The state of Israel does not contain the true children of israel. The title of Israel has been stolen by the self proclaimed "Jewish" families. The true children of israel has been in captivity for centuries and are in the dark places of the world. Which is the whole reason for Salvation. Revelation 2:7-10 [7]He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God. [8]And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive; [9]I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. [10]Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

[@willielee5253]

@AYATAN, I GUESS THEY STOLED YOUR GOD TOO, CAUSE THE ONE THEY USING ANSWERS THEIR PRAYERS AND DOES MIGHTY THESE FOR THEM. PERHAPS YOU SHOULD COMPLAIN TO HIM AND SEE WHAT HE SAYS IN YOUR BEHALF??

[@ayatan9119]

@@willielee5253 how do you know what God it is that they're praying and worshipping?

[@ayatan9119]

@@willielee5253 if you're supporting this hypocritical self proclaimed "State of Israel", then don't get frightened when the Most High God of Israel comes to destroy your nation's unto spittle, and places HIS true children in the HIS kingdom to rule your nations. It is prophecy that the children will know when the time is near when the nations are fighting over the holy land that is not theirs.

[@ayatan9119]

@@willielee5253 KEEP THAT SAME ENERGY WHEN THE MOST HIGH SENDS HIS SON TO GATHER HIS CHILDREN!

[@emf49]

Eventually ALL Israel will be saved! God is gathering them back to the land in their unrepentant condition but when the remnant have returned, He will wash them according to Ezekiel 37 & 38 and then Messiah will return. However, I agree, although we can support Christian Ministries reaching out to the Jewish people, it seems a weird concept to support the Israeli government! (Although I do pray for the Knesset, the IDF, Netanyahu and the 20,000 Messianic believers living in the land.