Should Cops "Shoot To Incapacitate"?

[@poizunman75]

Hope you see this comment and highlight, because I'm an EMT about to hit y'all with an anatomy lesson to highlight why shooting thighs and/or abdomen are terrible ideas: First, to build on the point of the femoral artery, there is also the femur itself which may potentially break if hit. Now medical staff have two injuries to treat. Further the femoral artery can still be hit by metal fragments (my understanding is that police use hollow points) and now fragments of bone causing the patient to bleed inside the thigh. Now for the abdomen, there's still numerous organs and blood vessels in there. For blood vessels, there is the descending aorta (which bifurcation into the femoral ateries) but also the inferior vena cava. Hitting either one will make the patient bleed out internally. But even if those get missed, there are still the organs; best case, you hit a solid organ like the liver or kidneys, which will bleed a lot. But, more likely, you would hit a hollow organ like the intestines or stomach, which will release blood plus whatever was inside into the abdominal cavity where now you have bleeding plus the potential for sepsis. Finally, though it's pretty unlikely, there's the possibility that the bullet could hit the spinal column. Will it kill them? No, but they'll be paralyzed from the waist down the rest of their life. So officer safety notwithstanding, you are not (repeat, *NOT*) doing suspects any favors by either still killing them, giving them other life threatening conditions, or permanently crippling them. TL;DR this policy is bad and they should feel bad

[@matteocesa9017]

Outstanding explaination! As a medicine student can confirm 100%

[@ferelith-NZ]

Yep. I was thinking along the same lines. Plus smaller targets with limb shots = higher risk of getting someone else.

[@JR-ld1et]

LMAO, Seriously, none of this bs makes sense 🤣💥🤣💥🤣🤣😂🤣

[@oldcop18]

I was a Navy Corpsman assigned w/the Marines in Viet Nam and treated a few GSWs in the field and you’re absolutely right. This is a stupid policy made by a spineless police chief who hasn’t been a real cop in years, if ever.

[@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88]

@@oldcop18 I would be willing to bet it's the city council that made this decision, not a police chief. This would be like making the fire dept use low-flow nozzles because *_Karen_* decided to complain about wasting too much water during a drought. On paper it makes sense. In practice, not so much.

[@jasonnix8767]

Bullets do bounce off bones. I seen a guy shot in the leg and bullet exited out his neck and he died. My main concern is hitting a bystander because you missed a flailing arm.

[@officer401]

BINGO. Thanks for the feedback Jason! I hope you've been doing well. Good to see you on here again, my friend! 👌

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

I know a women who was shot in the head and the bullet entered her skull, wraped around the outside of her brain and skated around the inside of her skull, missing her brain and exiting out the back of her skull. She lived and made basically a full recovery. People can even survive gunshots to the head if it hits just right, depending on the round. I know someone who has. Wild.

[@zagorith14]

@@TheAnnoyingBoss My dad went to school with a guy who was shot in the head during a robbery while working. He's still alive with a family to this day.

[@phillipsmith4814]

@@officer401 The solution to this non-problem is so obvious that I’m shocked no one else has thought of it. Stop using lead and gunpowder based weapons entirely and instead issue Nerf guns. The worse that might happen is someone has a minor eye injury. But the way it works is that the officer would fire his Nerf gun, on fully auto, at the threat and the threat would immediately start laughing so hard he would collapse onto the ground and with the tears streaming out of his eyes, he wouldn’t even see when the cop casually walked over and handcuffed him. BRILLIANT! Problem solved. And I developed this technique from the comfort of my nicely cushioned swivel chair in less than 5 minutes. Talk about efficiency! Don’t thank me. I’ll be happy to send you a complete training plan, in PowerPoint for only a small, nominal gratuity of $5,000. In addition the purchase of said training plan entitles you to have me come to your location and present the training in person at a discounted rate of $200 per hour plus per diem and 5 star hotel accommodations. 😜Take care. It’s crazier out there than ever.

[@Len_M.]

@@officer401 The Leg has the Femoral Artery, Arms have the Brachial Artery, both of which will kill you just as dead as a Center Mass Shot (but will just put the Officer at more risk of shooting something/someone they didn’t intend.) Never mind in an average Police Shooting there are well above just one Shot as well! They must figure these Officers are going to be Snipers with their Pistols that aren’t even equipped with a Shoulder Stocks. Edit: I see you mentioned the Femoral Artery.

[@OmegaTou]

Georgia looked at police shootouts, and decided there were not enough stray bullets hitting innocent bystanders. They are acting to correct that oversight.

[@xxtripleokgaming]

Not north Georgia just metro Atlanta

[@snakesocks]

I'm sure a 250lbs dude who's on meth will totally be stopped by a 9mm to the bicep.

[@officer401]

🤣

[@TRG30168]

The only meth heads ive fought are 90lbs and their tensile and physical strength outweighs me, a 250 lb meth addict is borderline super human id imagine.

[@trappercreekd8622]

JuSt TaZe ThEm

[@JulioCesar-zl2ud]

Been involved in an OIS, couple of the shots hit the guy in the leg. He continued running with a gun in hand... You dont shoot to kill, you shoot to stop the threat.

[@dylansmith1738]

good to see you back lol. I think the admin staff is just kissing the media and public's asses to avoid being in the spotlight when something goes wrong.

[@officer401]

Oh....oh...this comment is perfect and couldn't be more correct, believe me.

[@CENTRALCHAOS21]

yes this always happens if something bad happens so their image wont be ruined some times police dept's dont care about its people that much

[@spencergrace1679]

There still are people who are involved in this career. I just graduated my academy and there is 15 other people who I know are passionate for it as well!

[@johnpatti4391]

This kind of thing happens a lot in corporate settings and is as we would call it in the military "CYA" on their parts. They can now say "we told them" and wash their hands of responsibility. Good intentions aside be prepared to be thrown under the bus. It all sounds good on paper but ignores the realities of the situation.

[@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88]

@@johnpatti4391 CYA?? Cuddle Your Aardvark? Just about every business, especially public utilities and govt entities, should adhere to the philosophy of, Cover Your Ass. In this sue happy world we live in they would be crazy not to. I worked for my cities water dept and know far too well the peril of not doing so. Someone has to be the fall guy when something goes wrong.

[@smoke_eater_]

As an EMT, this is absolutely ridiculous that they are doing this. I hope they don’t bing this to where I live, if so, the officers will be more worried about getting sued and loosing their job, then saving themselves and fellow officers. I know that they are willing to do anything regardless to save themselves and fellow officers. Stay safe brother.

[@scoobydoo2644]

Yes the king is back!!!! Edit: this new policy is dumb and will cost lives.This policy is as dumb as the Army taking away shark attacks a pt tests from basic training.

[@mainmanstrider3239]

So happy to see you upload. Always makes me anxious when a officer goes silent...

[@mikedunn330]

Snipers are actually taught to shoot center Mass for the same reason, it's the one part that doesn't move. Also, in reference to the femoral artery comment you made, when someone is shot in their gut there is a saying that goes, when the blood turns black grab a body bag from the back. It can be a very slow and inhumane way to die. I, in no way endorse deadly shooting, but if left with no choice then the obvious solution is the quickest and most efficient one. I too, and glad to see you back, and totally agree with what you're saying!

[@officer401]

Thanks for the feedback Mike!

[@billw623]

@@officer401 the cops should just shoot them in the head an be done with it

[@tenchraven]

@@billw623 It is a very small object, and the useful part is smaller. Imagine half a cinder block, just one cavity, with a walnut in there. Yes, I'm describing mammals that are genetically human. Center mass works

[@billw623]

@@tenchraven so does a shot to the mammals head would drop the animal stop them cold in there tracks

[@billw623]

@@tenchraven well if you get a hole in the blader or an gut that will up spead up the mammals death for sure when tme mammal causes one to suffer lost they need a so long painful death

[@TheRyelandfamily]

Don’t ever apologize for being a good husband or father!! I love your videos! If making them better means we get less that’s perfect!

[@officer401]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@dontarguewithidiots7459]

BRAVO!! Brilliantly stated Officer 401. Your points are clear, sharp, and make a lot of sense. God BLESS you and other officers out there.

[@kristinreynolds577]

Why is it not policy for police chiefs and their administration not have to still work the streets?? I worked in the airline industry and some one of our chiefs still had to work. They had to prove that they could still do their job, so they worked every three months. I know it doesn’t sound like a lot, but it’s better than someone never working again after being elected! Great to see back making videos!!! Much love from Oklahoma! 💗💗💗

[@MightyMitch20]

So I have an Uncle who's a retired NSA agent. He's also a expert marksman with pistols. Even he doesn't have the confidence to hit an arm or leg. He (and i) has the opinion "if you don't have the confidence and skill to hit your target with every round in your magazine, don't take the shot."

[@stevenmartines8872]

I agree with shooting to stop the threat. That being said, if deadly force isn’t as far as you want to go it sounds like the firearm is not the correct choice of tool in that instance.

[@russv4753]

God forbid I ever have to use my firearm I will continue shooting center mass as trained by the state. Also shooting at the legs can make someone bleed out faster than shooting at the center mass or head

[@ConnorReynolds784]

The old saying, “ an appeaser is someone who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last” comes to mind when I first heard about this policy. Because that’s all this bullshit is, just attempts at appeasing the public.

[@paulenabaker4008]

Already seeing a rise in hesitation in the police force and more news articles about fallen officers because of said hesitations. I fear for you and everyone else on the force. You have my prayers 🙏

[@taylorcoley6329]

What’s happening to Georgia?? Went blue this election and now this garbage?? GA trying to be a California junior. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@annacher8100]

I'm very thankful that you made this video. It really did open up my understanding and outlook. Thank you. I don't have such a negative outlook concerning this now. I have a much deeper understanding.

[@Bloo57999]

Many reports of serial store robbers in Georgia with stilts and leg casts. Three limbs and your out. Teens in Georgia reported to be breaking their arms and legs to look cool to classmates.

[@seanlane1051]

Did you run this video by your command? If not, I can see that "dusty uniform" comment, coming back to bite you in the ass. That being said, great points and I love your content.

[@officer401]

No, I don't run ideas and concepts I create for my private business by command staff of a separate occupation for approval. That's overreach. Thanks for your support, my friend!

[@airsoftspeedy]

couldn't have said it better. hats off to you for making this video.

[@afurryrabbit6104]

glad you're back!

[@Josh-mc6cb]

glad you're black

[@ersacommunity7790]

It's funny how the people upstairs who haven't worn an actual patrol uniform for 20+ years know so much about what the officers needed. Somehow, even more than the even officers themselves it seems.

[@carolinacasperc6317]

I self identify as a noob in this subject, but would like to hear more from both sides. Thanks for your input on this....its great food for thought.

[@pandi8109]

Appeasement never works, just look at Germany right before WW2. Germany: "I want that country." Britain: "No you can't ha... ok you can have that but no more." aaaand repeat. Also 401 could you do a video on the best pranks you pulled on rookies?

[@oz_jones]

Neville "no war at our lifetime" Chamberlain

[@thatonewaspatyourpicnic7978]

I like how you referenced Oversimplified.

[@jdglock9114]

NAILED IT !!!! I lived in that area. I am surprised their chief has given in to this notion. PS: - Please notice that NOTHING similar to this has been announced by the Troup County Sheriff. Lagrange is in Troup County.

[@bonher69]

Mike the Cop, “Pretty please...put the gun down, otherwise, I’mma shoot you in the toes!”

[@ReaIHuman]

We should call this cod training. The only person who'd say shoot them in the legs or arms, would be the same person who's only "experience" with guns is from call of duty.

[@sunshineproductionsyt4954]

I want to be a police 👮‍♀️ officer when i grow up

[@henryfreeman6113]

Good luck! 👍

[@sunshineproductionsyt4954]

Thank you !

[@jesperstoringgaard8367]

I served rather briefly in the Danish army, and they acturly have seperation between "Lethal force" and "shooting to incapacitate" in the latter of escalation (use of force rulebook). "So for instance if someone is running away with a stolen rifle, you don't have reason to beleive they're otherwise armed, and you can safely, and with high chance of sucess do it, shoot for the legs to incapacitate. If not, escalate to lethal force, and shoot center mass. By the way, it's practically impossible to get a hit on a running target's legs at 100 meters *wink* " - The captain who instructed us.

[@adrianstroud4745]

I grew up in Lagrange. Now going thru the Columbus Georgia academy for the city of west point. This is a Lagrange specific teaching and no other agency in the country does this.

[@sergeantpeppers8858]

I'm so glad I'm out of all that. I was a firearms instructor for Georgia. I would quit (if I still was working) if I had to be PC. Deadly force isn't just killing someone. It's defined as "DESTRUCTIVE PHYSICAL FORCE causing bodily injury or death."

[@donmcmaine9213]

Paul Harrel just did a video similar to this, testing out whether it was plausible for cops to shoot a knife out of someone's hand.

[@Operator.cag.]

Why is it when I’m watching law enforcement you post lol

[@ocifer2649]

LaGrange is inviting agencies to attend the training. A friend of mine is a GA Lieutenant who attended it. It seems like it's going to open up officer to additional legal liability. Why not see if your agency will allow you to attend their training and explanation and give us a follow-up video. I'd love to hear you perspective after attending it.

[@frankmckinley1254]

You are so spot on! This pablum of neoleftist thought is tragic.

[@jacegallagher8589]

As someone who has been stabbed and shot in the legs and an arm, I can tell you hitting there will NOT stop the threat. Three punks tried to rob me and got a hit in both legs and my dominant arm, yet I was able to fight them off AND gave them worse injuries WITH MY HANDS than they did me WITH GUNS AND KNIVES. Oh I felt it when the threat was over and the adrenaline was ebbing off, but that took minutes AFTER I hurt the punks to start occuring. Even then, I still walked half a mile until someone saw me and drove me to a hospital. I retained consciousness the whole time. Point being, this new policy WILL fail.

[@xMaverickFPS]

...but have they ever tried just _ASKING_ the criminals to stop?

[@ultraspank8479]

I’m glad you exist on here. Your so well spoken and excellent at getting your point across. 🤘🏻

[@kdoge1387]

Keep up the great work 401. 1BadFed is proud

[@codybailey855]

😂😂😂 That looks like an reversed version of the target we shot in the academy!

[@bowenxu5222]

One thing bugs me is that if the situation is “not the most urgent”, shouldn’t they just try to taser the suspect instead? Either way I failed to see an intermediate level between taser and “lethal” gun usage.

[@twinkusa13]

First of like to say, you don't need to apologize for not making videos. Number one job of your life is taking care of your family, that sounds like you are doing very well!! Second, I don't totally agree on this new policy. Yes, if one feels their life is at risk, deadly force should not be a 2nd source. But there are many calls where maybe a less of a kill shot could have been done. Can't truly say yes or no, all incidents have their issues and without one being in the officers shoes, don't make a judgement on the situation. Don't rely on the media either, again one will not see or hear all that went done on the specific incident. And 3rd, its has always been said if you only wound a person, its now open for them to sue you. Who wants to go through that Bullshit! Anyways, thank you for the video. I love watching your channel. Take care, stay safe, and God Bless!

[@byronlabelle7569]

From all of my years of association with LEO &1st responders the training that is received when it comes down to confronting a criminal intent on doing bodily harm is to shoot to stop PERIOD. And that is how they do things. While us civilians don't gotta read the varmint no rights, take 'em to jail or stop shooting if the critter is down, we just have to walk up to 'em & pay the insurance.

[@kloganfirst2869]

Officer out of CA. That's a terrifying policy. OIS is almost a career ender as is even if you're justified but now you'll be dragged into court and picked apart for how you shoot under life or death.

[@MusicManSabastian]

It’s like a circle... but a freaky circle

[@basicallyflawless]

Imagine that bad guys are aiming at your head.

[@basicallyflawless]

Btw every police officer in poland needs to aim like this.

[@usonumabeach300]

Paul Harrell did a good presentation on why shooting at extremities is a bad idea.

[@keegansmetanko3755]

Good to see someone with a brain talking about this topic.

[@Averageblackdaddy]

I’ve been a cop for four years now and I absolutely love it. One of the reasons is because my Sheriff has a back bone. He stands up for what’s right. This is the type of stupidity that you get when leader ship is weak when your leader ship is worried more about avoiding lawsuits then keeping their officers and the community safe. If anything this policy is likely to cause more lawsuits and at the very least more officer deaths. If I were a defense attorney I would chew that agency up and spit them out the first time are use the force incident takes place using this idiotic policy. I don’t understand it. It’s like everybody turn their brains off last year and now we’re all a little bit stupider. It makes my head hurt.

[@dmitrikrosikio2684]

"Hey guys, don't shoot for the chest, just shoot for abdomen even if it is still just as deadly" -people who have never shot a gun before

[@chriscarlson6880]

Wow we have come full circle. Back in the day officers could take warning shots, then they couldn’t, now every shot is a warning shot.

[@mattstone6989]

Lagrange Ga is like 30 minutes from me.. crazy to hear this

[@aussiebloke609]

i was taught to shoot as a basic security guard in Sydney, back in the late '80s. Even back then, in a country known for its lack of handguns, the first thing drummed into us was to "shoot to stop the threat." This new idea isn't just stupid and dangerous...but what's going to happen when some guy bleeds out from a shot to the groin? Or maybe hr survives, but find that parts of him are now missing? Can you say "yet another lawsuit"? I knew you could.

[@FireheartSamurai]

A lot of people don’t know how firearms & the human anatomy works to. Also I remember stories like Tango Mike Mike, Senior Chief Mike Day, & Officer Timmothy Grammins who’ve been shot at/taken multiple shots & those people survived being shot multiple times. It’s not hard to look at incidents like these & look into things like how firearms/polices officers work.

[@brodyrichard263]

I couldn’t agree with you more on this one man

[@hbtrustme7196]

Paul Harrell posted a demonstration of this on 5/17.

[@beelzebub_7169]

I interpreted this as just reinforcing the concept that if you don’t have to shoot someone in the head, don’t. This seems relatively obvious, but it’s insane how often cops enact very aggressive means of incapacitating people that don’t pose the kind of threat the warrants it. It sounds like the policy allows officers to maintains discretion as well from what was read, so I don’t understand where the problem is. This just appears to say “Try not to instantaneously murder someone unless you have to, but even if you do, we can still justify it anyway thanks to our robust union power.”

[@Fran7842]

Pawns get to become a knight, Bishop, queen, or rook when they reach the eighth rank

[@jamycrowder1211]

First notification I've got for a officer 401 video in a long time! But as always your spot on!

[@umbraelegios4130]

This will only benefit ambulance chasing lawyers.

[@user-bi2me1kj7p]

It can work under very specific situations that will probably never happen. but in situations like that there is usually enough room for less lethals to be used instead of using lethal force to incapacitate people. For example, a man who is very slowly walking towards and officer with a knife or standing with a knife

[@nikolai3620]

Nothing but good common sense from your channel, Officer401. I admire you for sticking to your guns instead of bending over backward in this socio-political climate like so many people and departments are doing.

[@beccag2758]

I am not an officer, but it seems like this implies you can aim for “less lethal” areas which is against most of the firearm safety I (personally) have been taught i.e. don’t point a gun at anything you don’t want obliterated. Again, I’ve never been in law enforcement so maybe they’re taught differently?

[@TresTrefusis]

Nope, not until now, and they never should be. You got it right, don't change.

[@tng2112]

I still have heard nothing about Ronald Kerzaya

[@thomasbrannan9701]

Man you are spot on. I can see this stupid shit happening in Maryland along with the other stupid shit things that are going on here. It's a bad idea and makes no sense. We are going to end up losing more Officers to this appeasement garbage more than ever. Great video brother keep up the great work. Hit me up on my facebook group bluelinewalking. Hope to see you there.

[@MySpitts]

If they make it a hard policy (Will or Shall) I would leave that agency. Screw that.

[@CryseTech]

This new Standard is completely bs... Definitely agree with you!

[@mverma7845]

I am a military 🪖 vet, this new law sounds stupid. Been deployed to Iraq in 2011. I remember when I was being deployed we were told not to shoot at someone shooting at us, we had to call on the radio to get instructions on what we can and can't do.

[@andrewgonzales4278]

That's stupid and extremely dangerous and deadly. And still is deadly for the threat that they are trying to stop

[@jayastra3325]

My thing is the use of deadily force was alright to begin with but maybe more scenario and deescalation training should be added but the policy DOES NOT need to be changed.

[@deepstatediego8383]

should be law - cops cannot fire until fired upon

[@10Cnote]

You got a life buddy, no need to apologise, look after the family. God Be with you mate

[@cephasmartin8593]

Shooting anywhere but center mass makes absolutely no sense.

[@barackobama3yearsago971]

Awesome video officer 401

[@mikefarmer4748]

That department is ridiculous. While they may or may not reduce deaths among criminals. It will almost certainly cause MORE death or serious bodily injury to police officers and civilian bystanders.

[@rhvette]

La Grange officers should also greatly reduce their speed on roads to reduce the risk of hitting pedestrians. I think a 15 mph top speed. Don’t worry, citizens of La Grange, they’ll still get there to take statements and write up their report, and as an added bonus the bad guy will be long gone so no one will need to get shot by the cops. I mean, they might need to have an ambulance come with to bag up whoever the bad guy killed, but hey, they weren’t killed by cops and as we all know, that’s all that matters.

[@nickragah9923]

Cops now have to be like: “hold on there sir lemme aim at you in a non-lethal spot”🤦

[@kudahdagoat5301]

Even in the military we are taught center mass

[@Love4boost]

If I’m responsible for what happens when I fire my weapon as a citizen. Cops should be equally responsible for what happens when they fire theirs. So I say the training should be better and focused on assessing threats. With more accountability for when that weapon is used. If a cop can’t meet the standards of required training. He doesn’t get a service pistol. He gets non lethal and has to call for backup from cops that are qualified. Obviously that doesn’t work everywhere. Rural areas don’t have the money of the big cities. They also don’t have that many coworkers. But from my knowledge of people in more rural areas. Their cops are more peace officers. They’re friends with everyone in the area. So if something happens. They are well acquainted with who they are looking for.

[@usonumabeach300]

At what point do we see mass waves of resigning LEOs?

[@flyifri]

Over kill is the theme for the day. Cop empties clip over a pocket knife.! Poor Sammy 18 was all alone with 9 shots and still got tazed.!

[@sempergummy5469]

Anytime you discharge a firearm at someone it is lethal force no matter where you aim and if you have the skill to target specific parts of the body. If it’s not a lethal force encounter you can’t use a gun period. You would have to consider the use of a less than lethal device or other tactics. The death of policing is officially here. Thank you Oklabama PD.

[@chrismayer7762]

Hell NO

[@303tay]

Wonder what other departments will follow🤦🏽‍♂️

[@autumnsierra2436]

Thank you for all you do stay safe ..

[@ryanpierce5460]

I agree, I think it's a bad policy. If I was on a jury and a cop shot to kill a dangerous felon...not guilty. A cop has a right to defend themselves. No matter where you hit them, if your life is in danger, it shouldn't matter. I hate how wacky our politics have gotten in the recent years..

[@scris9205]

Our LE's role. aiming Leg.

[@richardpanini971]

Is it easy to sign up, for the shooting range at the police station? Tht shit should be more accessible

[@noahsaunders2896]

Remember when a Utah officer shot a woman holding a screwdriver in the leg and got in neck-deep hot water for it? There's no making people happy.

[@ramonsmediablog]

I believe the idea that was proposed is a horrible idea. Say you were shooting for the arm or leg and one of the bullets accidentally hit a passerby and killed them. What’s next you get charged with murder? Some people don’t look at the full outcome of the situation.

[@sblackwell1657]

You should not shoot warning shots because you may inadvertently shoot someone else involved or not involved causing harm beyond the intended threat. I was always taught to STOP THE THREAT and know what is around / behind the threat to PREVENT collateral damage/ harm.

[@stevendelafuentes6321]

1) Love your content man I hope you and the family are doing good! 2) That department is literally creating a whole new variable that is now gonna make them worry even more now if they did the job to department policy, I won’t be surprised if more walk off the job. On top of the the lower extremities have some of the most vital arteries that are harder to stabilize if nicked Plus being shot in the lower abdomen doesn’t mean guaranteed survivability, it most definitely means much longer durations of agony until medical services arrive, it’s honestly a slower version of pain which is most definitely inHumane which is something law enforcement is trying to avoid. Just my option! Be safe @officer401 and everyone else!

[@MtnManMT]

And 401 gets fired for using logic.... I mean. I was told almost immediately when I hit FTO to stop using logic or I'd get in trouble.

[@ArcFire_Fox]

Is it too late to put these administrators in mobile offices ? Aka front line in a vehicle.

[@joeljackson928]

Can you do a video on the most recent Alabama Cop shooting in Birmingham AL ??

[@TheTrueDoomSlayer]

I play Doom, trying to hit a giant mechanical spider while stressed is hard enough, but a human in real life? Uhhhhh, I'd rather play "where's Mario"

[@jaymesonbell8040]

i have a question. if they are training to shoot lower if the suspect isnt as urgent of a threat why the hell would they shoot anyway?