SHOULD ENGINEER SELL 2023 LEXUS GX TO BUY 2024 GX? // WHICH IS BETTER? // ENGINEER'S COMPARISON!

[@megharper5077]

The gx460 with the v8. Proven very long-term performance and reliability. Let Lexus work the bugs out of new vehicles.

[@lforeman9467]

Nope you should keep your 2023 as it’s a gem with that smooth reliable V8.

[@mfnazir]

You should keep your GX460. I sat in the new one at the dealership and it was a lot of plastic and then I sat in GX460 that thing is nice not much plastic very nice. I would wait a few years for Lexus to improve GX550 right now plastic junk is not worth the money, and I am someone who loved the new shape and was excited about it but my advice is to keep your GX460.

[@GuillermoGonzalez-zelglez]

I will keep my new 2023 GX460 that i just got last year very confortable and luxury specially the V8 love it

[@ftang3192]

GX460 all day long. Keeping my V8

[@er98ah]

That v8 is tired. Gx550 is better in every single way. Yes including getting rid of that old man wood grain

[@JohnConrad]

@@er98ahthat tired v8 will outlast the new V6

[@bngr_bngr]

I was driving next to the GX550. It’s a big car, very boxy, I love it.

[@charley95sheridan44]

Amd, The Car Care Nut's most recent video on Lexus V-8's is very important for long term maintenance in keeping coolant changed. His video is important to watch for long term keepers of the GX V-8 engine.

[@ej2863]

How often to change coolant?

[@jpdoc5722]

‘23 V8 for the win 🏆 screen is an easy upgrade👍

[@elizabethwhite4606]

The V8 always.

[@offshorebear]

If you are an engineer, can you do more engineering tests? How about actual power output, software responsiveness, NDT, load testing, QMS, etc? Panel gap testing with an uncalibrated plastic stick doesn't do much. Can you at least use a caliper or a mic?

[@ThachVo-y6g]

Don’t do it! My gx550 OT+ has idle vibration and now brake issue.

[@asmranonymousgaming901]

I returned mine after 6 weeks d/t complete engine failure. They’re keeping tight lips around this issue

[@Fuegoturbo]

22" wheels on a GX.🤯 Love my 23 GX and I feel like the new one goes way up in price for materials and finishes that are great for a Toyota, but not what I'd expect from Lexus.

[@derrickaf1]

I’m fortunate enough to own a 2019 GX460 and a 2023 GX 460, the 2019 GX unfortunately (subject to changing my mind) will be traded in a couple years and the 2023 GX 460 is the keeper. Your reviews are always on point and well presented:)! Thank you…

[@stevenscarborough9376]

My wife and I bought an L-Certified 2023 GX460 Premium in late July. Short version: we love it. To fund it, we sold a 2021 4runner Off Road Premium--- which we also really liked. We are decreasing our offroading and have done most of what we wanted in the 4runner. Fyi, I was wanting a 2024 GX550 Overtrail. But at the time up here in the Denver area there were waiting lists for the GX550--- such as over 200. Dealers were telling us it might be 6 months or more; hence, we went with the GX460. As a side note the highway mpg is rated at 19. With just me driving at 68 mph, I routinely get 23 - 24 mpg!

[@LonGilford]

I own a 23 GX 460 💙 love the V8 engine!!! I will never part with it!!! I know what I have in the GX 460 , I’m not worried about the GX 550!!!

[@daviddupree1155]

I would keep the 2023 Lexus

[@L-2-c2t]

Ideally, buy the GX550, while keeping the GX460 until you're sure. The old systems approach was run both in parallel. After a given amount of time, keep the one you decide is best for you and sell the other one. I suspect leasing is an option for somebody who can deduct the lease costs income-tax-wise, but vehicles bought-outright can also be depreciated and there may be other deductible methods depending on one's tax laws. David, you'll have the advantage of better info and having test driven the GX550 more than what I'd be able to do at today's dealership which may only get one in at a time.

[@douglasbarnes1171]

I have the GX 460, I love the new one, but would wait a year or two given the engine issues with the Tundra.

[@Mferny1973]

I don't think there's even a comparison, 2023 GX 460 all day long! The V8 is bullet proof. The interior feel and luxury appointments of the GX 460 are much better. I feel like the new Lexus vehicles use a lot of cheap plastics and the fine luxury features of leather, wood, etc. are all gone. The Lexus motto used to be " The Relentless Pursuit of Perfection", sadly I do not see that in it's new vehicles today.

[@Jay-me7gw]

Haven’t you heard, the UR motors are blowing head gaskets as they are aging

[@ShinobiTekken]

Keep the v8

[@Sam9wilson9]

I chose a 23 after driving both. Drivers area more room on 23 for sure. Esp side to side with legs. Preferred the LC to the new GX.

[@SmokinBuddha]

I bought the GX 550 and I love everything about it. I had 2 Mercedes that were lemons within 1 year and I prefer driving the GX over the 2024 GLE 450. I also had the 2008 GX but unfortunately a bunch of crooks stole my car. I’m planning on keeping the GX 550 for a long time.

[@ImOnlyaMAN88]

I’m keeping my 2022 GX460

[@markgroves5592]

Maybe it's telling that people do not seem to be trading in GX460s for the new GX550, at least not in central Texas. When I bought my wife a 2021 GX460 CPO in April to join my 2018 LC200 in our garage, there were at least 30 CPO GX460s model year 2020-2022 to choose from at the 3 Lexus dealers nearest me. Today there is only one in stock, a 2019 GX460.

[@samuel4568]

I’ll never let go of my gx 460, never

[@johnbutler5467]

I have a 2020 and love it. Will keep it and if 2024 or 2025 comes in hybrid, I will consider upgrading. I do not like the size of the rear lights on the 2024.

[@ronarmfield913]

Love my GX 550 overtrail plus ,no issues at present.

[@WilliamGelmi]

Toyota/Lexus number 1. Amazing

[@floridadawg9857]

Love them both..... Lexus best built vehicle on the road

[@Hitman-zi1fv]

Went with the GX 550 overtrail+. Loving it and it definitely gets a lot of attention

[@Stargate555]

I have a 2023 Gx460 Premium and enjoy it. I would wait until the 2026 models come out, let them work out the kinks.

[@Marks.Reviews]

Does the GX 550 and LC 250 have aluminium panels?

[@Questtt3]

Thanks - great comparison. Engine issue is a bit of a concern...while realize the 2024s are just now making their way to dealerships...any idea when the 2025s likely to come out? (Been following the GX for 4 years, close a couple of times to pulling the trigger, but each time curious about the delayed re-design waited...now need to purchase something soon).

[@kosanmr2]

Both are great vehicles, can't go wrong with either!

[@uschi414]

You said the V8 in the GX 460 has been "the most reliable powertrain". And while I would agree, that's only if you're diligent with maintenance. Especially with coolant flushes every 50k miles. Watch your friend AMG's latest video where he talks about head gasket failures on the 1UR and the resulting coolant leak and overheating which results in a warped head or, worse, a warped block. And you're right, the new twin turbo V6 in the GX 550 is unproven. The update to the partial engine assembly took place in February 2024 it's likely the engine in the GX 550 won't have the same failures that Tundras and LX 600s have had. But, only time will tell if it's a truly reliable engine. Given Toyota's history, I would guess it's going to be reliable but only if the owners are diligent with their maintenance. Oil changes, transmission fluid changes, coolant flushes, diff fluid changes - these are the keys to a long-lasting vehicle.

[@bngr_bngr]

Are coolant flushes bad for the engine? Isn’t it better to just change the coolant?

[@denverred]

No. I’m keeping my 2014 GX 460 because Lexus doesn’t build quality and dependability like this anymore….they have declined in that department. KDSS in the front and back. No KDSS lean. Air springs in the back that are reliable. Trade it to someone who’ll appreciate it, if you don’t appreciate it anymore.

[@bngr_bngr]

The UR engine is not as reliable as the UZ. The UR is prone to head gasket leaks.

[@angelocolon6678]

The EKDSS is supposed to be much better than the the old KDSS

[@Jay-me7gw]

The EKDSS system is far better? Where are you getting that there is no KDSS in the back?

[@angelocolon6678]

@@Jay-me7gw Suspension (rear) Four-link with coil springs, gas-pressurized shock absorbers and stabilizer bar Four-link with coil springs, gas-pressurized shock absorbers and stabilizer bar Four-link with coil springs, gas-pressurized shock absorbers and stabilizer bar Adaptive Variable Suspension, four-link with coil springs, gas-pressurized shock absorbers and stabilizer bar Adaptive Variable Suspension, four-link with coil springs, gas-pressurized shock absorbers and stabilizer bar with Electronic-Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System (E-KDSS) Adaptive Variable Suspension, four-link with coil springs, gas-pressurized shock absorbers and stabilizer bar with Electronic-Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System (E-KDSS)

[@angelocolon6678]

I own one, that's my research

[@rightlanehog3151]

David, I vote for the GX!

[@AutomotivePress]

Which one?

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@AutomotivePress I prefer the tailgate to open like a door because I have never bumped my head on one of those.

[@4af]

I vote for the upcoming base model '25 4Runner with the non-hybrid turbo 4. It has the "commercial grade" 4 cyl as does the '24 Tacoma so is more likely to have trouble free long term durability.

[@phil1723]

@@AutomotivePress OT+

[@Mr_J_J]

Difficult question to ask. It’s very common for owners of the previous generation to prefer the previous generation, and sometimes radical changes take some time to be accepted. That being said naturally aspirated is becoming quite rare and it is a classic. Perhaps decide between the LC and the GX? Mahalo!

[@Miroslaw-rs8ip]

I own a GX460 yr 2023 and won’t be trading it for the new GX550! New turbo charged engine will take years to debug, the new engine won’t last as long as the V8 since it has to work much harder per litre of displacement.

[@Muhgcscvggbewzcujn]

I sat in a 550 and the interior was underwhelming. Tech wise, updated for sure, but look and feel, something was just amiss. Exterior, it looks great. I’d rather keep my ‘23 GX. All day.

[@mercboy111]

I agree with everyone's sentiments here. Don't sell it. You just need to find a good specialist and tuner who can do a stage 1 ECU remap. You might just get better petrol consumption and a slightly better throttle response after tune.

[@lydellleopold5884]

I didn’t even know that’s possible

[@angelocolon6678]

I purchased a new 550 it's definitely better than my 460 in my opinion

[@Sonofagreatdad]

is the panel gaps the only quality measure. seems a little silly

[@eighty6films]

NO! The older cast iron block V8 was the best tho

[@bngr_bngr]

The UZ is the reliable V-8. But the UR will go for decades before it has a head gasket failure.

[@asplmn]

@@bngr_bngr even then, owners can just run excellent oil and flush the coolant every 50k mi / 5 years and likely avoid any issues at all with the UR.

[@angelocolon6678]

Nobody can look into the future, you never know.

[@RonHenry]

Yes. You know you want the new hotness. Better suspension, modern convenience and it’s still a Lexus.

[@MountainBound17]

I like the engine and interior of the 460 but the outer lines and dedicated offroad trim of the 550. Feel like it's tough to get the best of both worlds, maybe the best we can hope for is a Lexus LX update.

[@anonay7238]

Just from the video the 2023 looks like a more premium and high quality, better put-together car. Can’t explain why but probably because of all the gloss black plastic on the new one.

[@MrInternationalSound]

Since I started watching your channel I look at all door alignment and gaps 😅 i am so mad at Chevy and gmc for their sloppy gaps

[@Jojo-ni2cg]

Keep the smooth v8

[@PaisleyPelican]

Car Care Nut's recent video on head gasket issues on the 1UR-FE V8 was a surprise to me - in light of the weakness discussed there, do you have any concerns with the outgoing V8's longevity?

[@gerardgunhouse397]

I watched AMDs video multiple times and was left somewhat confused due to his previous videos stating the amazing reliability and build quality of the gx460. I think the vehicle in question LC200 with.200k had not been optimally maintained with out coolant replacement thus the head gasket issue. The GX 460 is an amazingly reliable well built SUV old school Lexus. The takeaway is simple...proper service. Do a coolant drain and fill every 30K. I own two GX 460s along with a 1996 LX450 and have no plans to let them go anytime soon. I feel the build quality and butter smooth V8 in the GX 460 is amazing. Lexus spent years fine tuning this model and again I feel it has that old school Lexus quality. I have test driven the 550 and yes it is very nice but more expensive and more importantly far more complicated regarding long term service. I'll take a naturally aspirated under stressed 1UR FE V8 any day over the questionable new twin turbo V6.

[@TheKingOfInappropriateComments]

Does the new landcruiser have paddle shifters? 🤔

[@ihsanva]

What kind of seat covers you have on your 23 GX, any info will be appreciated. Thanks

[@AutomotivePress]

Just a slip-on generic one from Amazon

[@phaseglobalradiocom9677]

2023 GX is way better and it will appreciate in value better then the new model 😊

[@bngr_bngr]

Cars are an expense not an investment.

[@Jay-me7gw]

The GX’s don’t hold their value well, hence why a lot of people(including me) buy them used over a similar year and mile 4Runner. You start out 20k more expensive new and end up cheaper used.

[@mercboy111]

I would add that the GX550 should've been the new J250 Prado including the engine and then Lexus should've stepped in and 'Lexified' or made 'Lexurious' with all the wood grain and leather appointments :)

[@jaketan4273]

DAVID, WHEN DO YOU THINK IT’s SAFE TO BUY THE NEW GX IN TERMS OF THE ENGINE. MY DEALERSHIP SAID THAT I MAY GET MINE MID NOVEMBER..

[@Dori_1111]

We need a hybrid 550. The range is ridiculous. I do long trips sometimes over 1000 miles I would have to stop all the time.

[@Youmissedme-i5z]

The old one is so nice!

[@sokratzmmf]

Keep the V8 and reassess in a year

[@fouUili684]

Keep the GX460, you should do the same comparison for the LX600 and LX570.

[@Outdoorsy368]

Keep the 8, I'm getting really sick of these automakers "deciding" that us peasants don't need the choice. How shameful

[@robshaw2990]

I am not sure it is the auto manufacture as much as it is the government.

[@tstsocialmedia4403]

I see more and more videos with this engineer. Where did the engineer get his degree? What kind of engineer is he? Thanks

[@jonathanhuynh880]

Gx460 lol is more of a beauty for the ladies and a classic guy, the new one looks more, thick. But I like me my petite Beauty more 2023 luxury

[@1GulFF]

We need of road test thank you

[@FullTimeGT]

Why on earth should you sell a 2023 vehicule to buy a 2024, except you desperately want to loose money?

[@asplmn]

David is a content creator. This channel is part of his income.

[@asplmn]

LOL! GX 460 alllll day.

[@carlitosway01]

When people complain about cars not having physical buttons for the HVAC system they remind me when people wanted physical keyboards on smartphones. It's going away folks we will get used to it. Lol

[@omendarklight1526]

😂 well said

[@Lexusdude59]

No

[@rolllex5410]

David, the Car Care Nut has indicated the V-8 is experiencing issues at 200,000 miles. He’s had to replace a number of head gaskets for those engines.

[@asplmn]

That was a great video, but it is a bit of fear mongering. The culprit appears to be people doing their coolant change every 10 years. Meanwhile, there've been numerous of these V8s hitting 500k mi, and some of those 5.7L hitting 1M miles. Imagine just how expensive these twin-turbo V6 engines will be to replace once they find (another) fault with these a decade from now...

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@asplmnknowing Toyota, probably insanely expensive. Even the 5.7’s are pretty pricey to replace. Problem with Toyota’s are, if they are not reliable outside of warranty, you’re gunna go broke fixing them. They wanted $10000 to replace the nav system on my GX460. $10000!

[@asplmn]

@@Jay-me7gw Yup! Though, tbh, that's not just Toyota... that's _any_ modern car. Even the digital gauge cluster in a Honda Civic is thousands of dollars!

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@asplmn nah. Not true. I had an F150 and the turbos on that are currently $350 a piece. $3000 for a tundra. Nav system could be fully replaced for $1500 or so. Reman’d Ecoboost long block is ~$11k installed vs almost $30k for a tundra.

[@Arkeo36]

If the 1ur was just a bit more powerful it would be a no brainer suv considering the ideal size and the quality of older lexus/toyota models. The v8 is smooth but the mpg is so poor and the range is therefore limited, but it is too nice of a truck not to drive on long trips and too nice to really take off road.

[@Jay-me7gw]

This. I owned a 460, but the 1UR just is t that strong. Moved to an LX570 and it is just so much stronger and gets nearly the same mpg while being a way beefier truck all around. Would never go back to a GX460

[@mohammeds5458]

Since the GX/Prado has the KDSS front and rear, while the new GX/Prado has the new EKDSS only in the front or rear (I don’t remember which side), then the old GX is better.

[@Jay-me7gw]

What? The new one has KDSS on both axles. The EKDSS has two pistons on the front so that both sides of the swaybar release so it flexes better than KDSS

[@mohammeds5458]

@@Jay-me7gw The Prado has only one eKDSS. The Land Cruiser has two eKDSS. About the GX550, I'm not sure, but I assume it's the same as the Prado. It Actually, it's a bit complicated, and Toyota is the one who made it that way.

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@mohammeds5458 the GX550 isn’t a Prado. It most certainly has KDSS on the rear axle. Plenty of videos reviewing the GX550 overtrail will show you this.

[@mohammeds5458]

@@Jay-me7gw The gx550 is not a prado? Aha. Anyway, fk toyota making everything complected, just watched a video explaining which one has the ekdss. Gx500 has ekdss front and rear with rear diff or rear and centre diffs with 3.5T V6 or 2.4T 4 cylinders Prado has an SDM in front and ekdss in rear with rear diff or rear and centre diffs with 2.4T 4 cylinders or 2.8T 4 cylinders diesel Land cruiser has an ekdss front and rear with rear and centre diffs or front, rear and centre diffs with 3.5T V6 or 3.3T diesel V6

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@mohammeds5458 well, it’s not. Different motor, different transmission, different KDSS, different body, etc etc etc.

[@kangen9point5]

If you’re looking for longevity, a TT V6 just isn’t going to last as long as the naturally aspirated V8. No doubt the TT V6 is more fun to drive, but only the V8 can give you 400,000+ miles easy with proper maintenance.

[@FadilKarim]

Used 2022 GX with ~30k miles can be bought in the upper $40k range. Save the $30k-$50k, get a nicer interior & more proven powertrain with the GX460!

[@PB-nu1pv]

They messed up by not offering that cushy ride like the older GX. The new LC is a rough ride too. I expect the new 4R will be rough riding, unlike the outgoing. Toyota has messed up a good thing.

[@julianlea2211]

David, paint thickness and panel gaps are not comprehensive definitions of ‘quality’. Understand the desire to make the comparison, but only years of operation will tell the true story.

[@matw1x]

GX550 is way better looking, but it has a boring engine compared to GX460.

[@Karlkn]

By ALL MEANS - keep the V8!!!!!!!!!!!

[@fuji5339]

Keep de old one David! you already have the new land cruiser...would not make sense to have a land cruiser and a gx550 that look mostly the same. old gx is special..

[@bruce9063]

I give it at least two more years to give Toyota/lexus to get the kinks out the engine, then you will see the 23 model GX on used car lots because they were traded in for 550

[@emmettthomas953]

GX 550🏁🏁🏁

[@juanfersan]

550

[@RS616]

Hi David. Are you Korean?

[@normanli7085]

He's Japanese

[@johndiaz7240]

You buy new vehicles all the time, order the new GX Over Trail it will be good for your channel. Take care.

[@36mcast]

BE careful people. The KDS lean on the previous Gen is on a lot of models and I swear this is as annoying having your eyelash fall into your eye!

[@jd2plus2]

No lean on mine , even if did not a problem

[@magnoliap5824]

No keep the NA V6.

[@ivanstojadinovic4294]

If you wont to sell 2023 GX... You will have a buyer

[@MD2525-1]

225 miles range on highway is insanely bad!

[@lostalx]

Skip both and get 4RUNNER. 1GR-FE will last more than UR engine and the V35A junk for new buyers, for the existing, GX460 all day. PERIOD.

[@HB-Real]

Looks of 2024 and the engine of 2023...

[@paulbugoni2846]

Yep, Exterior of 550, everything else 460.

[@ABlaine21]

No!

[@a.a.a.r5238]

I will never buy turbo engines

[@Jay-me7gw]

Great. More for the rest of us.

[@samuel4568]

We are doomed, all cars will have turbos soon. Keep your non turbo cars forever.

[@ovid4]

He doesn’t keep any of his cars, why does he even ask us anymore?

[@francistham9928]

No point getting 2024, mpg is dismal. keep the tried and tested gx 460. Since you can afford both , keep and buy new one then tell us in one year with another review.

[@hasansensation]

No, you shouldn’t

[@daveybro]

I would sell GX and buy a Rivian , you already have a LC - gx550 is worse looking and worse around town , LC and Rivian is all you will need.

[@jd2plus2]

Rivian like most ev’s is not attractive although it is better than most . On long trips my GX is smooth and parking is amazing in small spots .

[@daveybro]

@@jd2plus2 I had a gx460 and now own rivian ; gx460 ride like boat, body rolls like crazy - not in same league if you believe in range anxiety myth then maybe it is no go but in his situation I wouldn’t own LC and Gx together - very redundant and LC is the better vehicle all day long - 15 years newer and 20mpg vs 10-12mpg city - which one will you daily or even road trip ?

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@daveybroAgree that the GX handles like a boat. I steeped up to an LX570 from my GX460, even on 35’s the LX handles way better. I imagine a Rivian is similar as I think they have a similar suspension setup

[@ronarmfield913]

My overtrail plus handles fine in sport +mode. No problem driving in manhattan traffic ,find it easy to maneuver.

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@ronarmfield913 I’m talking about handling a mountain pass at 70mph with a 5500 lb trailer in tow. Not driving in city traffic

[@lexbraxman9270]

23 is one of the ugliest suv outside and in. TBH

[@39impala]

460. The new one is a POS!

[@ConfirmedPatriot]

Never sell that V8.

[@dsdddsd4543we]

I've heard so many complaints about the interior quality of the new GX. Lexus knocked it out of the park with the exterior design but increased the plastic used in the interior. How do you feel about the interior differences?

[@Jay-me7gw]

For what you get with the new GX for the price, I imagine they had to cut costs somehow. The prices didn’t go up THAT much.

[@samuel4568]

If you don’t have your GX 460 now I advise you buy one used. They will never make anything like that again that will last 20 plus years. No way the new GX will last that long.

[@tom23245]

New GX looks cheap. The offroading look doesn't work with luxury SUVs.

[@gt-c-]

* * The answer is obvious...YES...!!! The 2023 looks UGLY...... * *