Should England Sack Gareth Southgate?

[@balme74]

I submit that national teams should not have managers. Every team turns up to the tournament with 22 footballers from different clubs/leagues who have to figure out how to organize themselves. Chaos on all fronts 😂

[@ridiculouslyalienated]

I like that idea, it's like fun football full with chaos but very competitive. I'm imagining right now 😅

[@natsterjam]

Who selects who turns up to the CHAOS? Gary Linekar? Sam Allardice? Gary fekin Neville? Ruud Hullit? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@UKStreetsDontLie]

@@natsterjam *Gary Lineker, Sam Allardyce, Ruud Gullit….. Learn how to spell before you have the nerve to call me ignorant fella.

[@puskas_baller]

i rate this

[@pullthatupjamie3537]

​@@UKStreetsDontLieHe didn't even call you ignorant, can you read? 😂

[@GOATZELWARDBANDWAGON.]

He shouldn't be sacked based on this game, but I think he should've been gone after the Euros/World Cup. Every good team we face in the biggest moments he falters. He's more a transition manager than the man to get us over the hump

[@Steveck072]

Agreed - Southgate is a flat track bully who plays terrorist/park the bus tactics

[@jackninetynine5036]

The ‘we always lose when we play a good team’ agenda is bs when we beat Germany & Croatia in the euros. Ur right tho he’s a good transition manager

[@domL2507]

@@jackninetynine5036it’s not bs at all

[@ChaserX90]

Germany aren't good though, they literally just got smashed by Japan and sacked their manager@@jackninetynine5036

[@jackninetynine5036]

@@domL2507 in the WC2022 pretty much every major nation lost to a smaller nation, yet England fans get arrogant & think they’re entitled to beat everyone. To say we haven’t beaten anyone good at all is a lie

[@alexholt6810]

The fact that he was playing Bellingham left wing to accommodate henderson and then took both maddison and bellingham off but kept henderson on when it was still 1-1 should tell you everything

[@arvin9425]

Southgate is insane. I don't mind him experimenting since we were alr guaranteed to qualify, but he could've given the younger lads some more game time e.g. eze, colwill, nketiah, foden etc. Instead he gave 50 year old Henderson 90 mins

[@MrHenhen5]

Imagine him playing a midfield 3 of Bellingham rice and henderson or Phillips. Imagine being Phil foden on the bench seeing henderson or Phillips starting over you.

[@NormanGilbert10]

Southgate is the only thing holding England back. So as a Welshman I love it

[@grantwyatt2780]

Great shout from a gutted English man

[@pendafen7405]

Same, Cymru need to exploit this weakness for all its worth (we don't exactly have other options at the moment😞)

[@boshankers12]

Forever in englands shadow.

[@hyywe240]

I can't wait until we get a new manager and fail miserably. I can't wait to hear the excuses that time round 😂

[@pendafen7405]

@@boshankers12 we'll see. If this stagnation trend carries on for Lloegr, well....

[@AndyTomlins]

If Brazil had this team and werent winning competitions the manager would go. It shows the level of ambition in the national team.

[@safcjoe7062]

You're right. I'd argue Brazil has the better squad than us in the world cup and they flopped and their manager resigned.

[@Leitblum]

I never rated Gareth Southgate, I thought he wasn't the right man when employed as England's manager. England was supposed to win the Euro final with Italy, but Southgate's limited tactics were the reason they lost that game. England has got very good players and they need a good manager to take them to the next level.

[@bluepearl_22]

Imagine this England team with someone like Carlo Ancelotti at the helm.

[@ElManataro]

A coach who's amazing in a tournament. Heck Zidane is another in mind. Sometimes man management is the key. Coaches only have limited time to implement their tactics before the tournament start.

[@thor8419]

Smoking a cigar on the touchline in his Prada suit whilst cooking Scotland. IM HARD.

[@boshankers12]

The England manager should be English.

[@adtastic1533]

I saw a great England squad with Fabio Capello in charge and look how that turned out

[@hugzy14]

Euro World cup Euro maybe? As opposed to semi, runners up, semi

[@olliemillward2614]

I would have liked Eddie Howe as manager before he went to Newcastle, and now he is at Newcastle and seen the way he sets up his team, and the spirit he’s created on and off the pitch, I definitely think he would have done wonders

[@agin1519]

And the Newcastle fans are sus on him now cos he’s lost a couple of games.

[@jonathanbolger6173]

And his Newcastle play such shithousery at times it would actually transition well into international football. They're always gullible

[@aymaanchowdhury81]

The fact that Flick got sacked immediately and England will probably give Southgate a contract renewal shows the difference in passion and goals.

[@johnriley7312]

Southgate got England to a final

[@commando4481]

@@johnriley7312And beat who on the way lol

[@ElManataro]

​@@johnriley7312and lost with his horrible tactics.

[@johnriley7312]

@@commando4481 2018 World Cup runners up Croatia

[@commando4481]

@@johnriley7312 hahaha in a group stage match ffs. There was no pressure. And it was a scruffy 1-0 win too.

[@billyp2516]

Rice, Bellingham and Maddison is a quality midfield 3. Playing Maddison left, 3 in midfield and with Kane dropping deep, meant a congested midfield mess, with only Saka wanting to run behind.

[@arvin9425]

Rashford should start. Him AND saka running in behind is the most dangerous wing pairing England currently have

[@Cespar997]

​@arvin9425 Rashford is too inconsistent. Stick Foden right wing and Saka can play left wing like he has before.

[@bna919]

Rashford Kane Saka up front. Bellingham Foden Rice in behind. Foden Saka combination would be great on the right hand side and with Kane dropping deep Bellingham and Rashford can get chances in behind

[@bna919]

@@Cespar997 that doesn't make much sense considering when Foden does play on the wing he plays on the left

[@chilpill305]

Keep him! 💪🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@kkrr3677]

Support a Scottish team 😂

[@UKStreetsDontLie]

He should of never been given the job in the first place. Anyone who does a Pizza advert mocking the fact they missed a penalty is hardly the calibre of man that should be spearheading the best talent we have arguably ever had

[@natsterjam]

DERP!

[@timmy5876]

We need to build this team around jude and trent in midfield, play them as the 2 8’s with rice behind them and a very solid defence in shaw, stones, white and walker/james. If u let them 2 have complete freedom with rashford, kane and saka ahead of them i dont see why we can’t win any tournament.

[@ronaldomcdonaldo6289]

One of the most talented squads around and they play the most basic football.

[@jacobpowley1841]

By and large, that’s how international teams succeed, by prioritising a strong defence and relying on a few key individuals at the other end. They train with each other for a week every three months, there’s no time to implement Pep-style tactical systems. Everyone agrees our defence is average, which is why it needs extra protection. All the best teams do it. France had by far the most talented squad in 2018 and played Blaise Matuidi on the left wing. Portugal had an ageing defence at Euro 2016 so they protected it and let Ronaldo/Sanches bail them out at the other end.

[@ronaldomcdonaldo6289]

England is playing negative possession ball, it isn't a defensively strong system with weak centre halves. It might be tactically the worst way to play with this team but I guess they don't have time to implement a pep style system so I will have to accept it.

[@17scottymufc]

Buvy spot on about Bellingham and foden

[@TheGreatestPlayerInTheWorld]

Buvey should be sacked mentioning Maddison in the same breath as Gascoigne and Charlton 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@jasonmillsom2981]

I think he means it more as of potential for England

[@reecemaddy]

I’d like to assume that was a mistake and he meant Bellingham

[@alexandertomlinson8129]

hes managed sterling so so badly its laughable. Started him at world cup when he was in AWFUL form, then drops him when hes back to his best!?

[@mchannel1365]

Problem is not Gareth Southgate but the current crop in UK, Germany and Spain are kick and run merchants Nobody is good at anything, so its hard to choose one from another You can say same about Brazil Current generation of footballers are athletes than skilled footballers

[@am5790]

Exactly... World football is in general what it used to be...even the delight of football Brazil is not anymore beautiful to the eye. I think we have entered a new boring era. Its the attachment to my club is the only reason.

[@puskas_baller]

dogging on the current crop of english players is actual lunacy. "no one is good at anything" you're lost

[@kaleab-h6o]

Foden,saka,Bellingham etc are not skilled players for you

[@am5790]

@@puskas_baller it the cold stone truth....not special....maybe to you....

[@puskas_baller]

@@am5790 football isn't for you mate, watch something else

[@wayneverhoff2790]

Spain didn’t just bench they straight up dropped Raul. The best Spanish striker ever.

[@sheslying7117]

The whistle v the lisp is always at its best during a Gareth Southgate debate

[@IHamilton9320]

It blows my mind he ever even had the position. The man is not cut out for this job and has consistently held back an otherwise world beater of a squad. His squad selections are bad enough let alone his tactical rigidity. England should be walking into the semifinals of every tournament they compete in but under Southgate, there is no room for progression from this current point. Pep is a mouthwatering prospect but he won’t coach England so who? Who could replace Southgate and improve this team? Anybody 😐

[@edwindwicahyo5375]

the fact that we will have a question whether an EPL team would hire him as a manager if he left/sacked tell us everything about his ability as a manager

[@pendafen7405]

11:53 arguably Maddison is a less selfish and grandstanding player than Foden, I'll put that out there. Maddison is also older and more experienced.

[@Cespar997]

And a better set piece taker. If there's no JWP, Trent or Trips playing, Maddison needs to start.

[@drumpros]

theyre completely different players who can play a similar position, Rory is just an idiot. Personally i think in a 3 Maddisson would be better, hes also good at the box to box/tracking back sides of things, whereas Foden is very attacking, takes risks and can lose the ball but hes more flarey and less of a passer from deep

[@ianpatterson862]

I'd give Wenger a shout, he was always waiting for French job, but he'd do a solid job for England. He's definitely not cut out for club management anymore...

[@safcjoe7062]

Late but Wenger rejected the England job. He said it is the job of an Englishman.

[@karaperrio-du5gs]

The very simple fact Kane made the midfield pass instead of being upfront scoring goals, shows how idiotic, incompetent and useless Southgate's negative football is

[@kevinboltz6244]

Your entire royal family is German, you guys can have a German manager

[@e.a6851]

I don't think 'they' know their history.

[@commando4481]

“Entire” is a stretch. I personally dont care where the manager comes from as long as they win.

[@ahblezasellars]

No need to to put “SACKED!” in the thumbnail. We were gonna watch y’all anyway fellas.

[@paulward5158]

I have always said I could see Jose Mourinho managing England

[@jacobpowley1841]

It’s all good shouting “Southgate Out” every five minutes but who is the available right now who would be a clear upgrade? There isn’t one. Club management is completely irrelevant to international management which makes the “relegated Middlesbrough” so lazy. Germany and Spain took treble winners to the World Cup and flopped, meanwhile Argentina won it with a coach who’s never had a club job in his life. I’d like to see Maguire phased out by the Euros but with Stones and Shaw injured I can see why he didn’t want to change three of the back four. People forget that international managers have a week of training sessions every three months, so continuity is key. You can’t just pick whoever has done well in the premier league last week.

[@wayneverhoff2790]

No international manager can get a team to play like Pep gets his worst team to play.

[@marleyholder3378]

The only realistic suitable English manager to bring in at this moment is Will Still. Young and exciting, would suit our team and would be interested to see how he could get an already talented squad firing.

[@lijah_3008]

When I saw Bellingham starting at LW I had flashbacks to 30 year old rooney playing CM😭

[@noone-qg1od]

Southgate has cost us 4 tournaments now. He's as to go.

[@willcroot5528]

He's only been in charge for 3 tournaments so Idk how you've worked that one out

[@pendafen7405]

5:44 ah, there it is, the anti-TAA agenda. Was waiting for that to jump out of Buvey's mouth. And I'm not even an LFC fan, just think it's low of Buvey to scapegoat one player.

[@SMlFFY85]

I've been saying he isn't good enough since during the 2018 World Cup and I don't particularly care about the fortunes of the England team.

[@roryfaulkner99]

Thomas Frank for me would love Thomas Frank

[@MrHenhen5]

As a leicester fan I'm delighted to see maddison doing well at spurs, he deserves it. But he needs to be central. Foden should start over him, but having maddison as an option on the bench is amazing. Just don't play him on the wing ffs

[@paulmorgan6269]

Glad someone noticed Harry passing just 3 metres just left and right at the back. He will just continue to do the same as he's in a rut.

[@lukegibson973]

I don't understand how you can hope to win the WC/Euros, with a manager that failed at Middlesbrough over 10 years ago and wouldn't get a job in any PL club.

[@MattF11112]

Shouldn't have been the manager in the first place.

[@timmy5876]

i feel like the team more or less picks itself but southgate still plays players that won’t be playing in the world cup in these friendlies when really he should play his main team almost every game so the players who don’t play at the same clubs can get comfortable with eachother. People will argue about keepers and defenders but the nailed on starters are stones, rice, jude, saka, kane, rashford

[@Jayy9320]

What on earth is Buevy talking about when it comes to Foden. For someone who watches him week in and week out that take was shocking. Wow

[@pendafen7405]

He's very evidently a plastic and a glory-hunter fan. Just like the bandwagonner United fans of the 90s and the Chelsea fans of the 2000s. If City were sold off tomorrow and lost all their backing & money, you wouldn't see him for dust. He's literally from the West Midlands/Country, he should be a Stoke, Wolves or Villa stalwart.

[@alexbrown975]

I think it's one of those rare occasion where he was honest. Foden needs those Citeh type players to work with. Maddison can perform with less dynamic systems.

[@doubletapthatdotty4597]

@@pendafen7405mate he’s been a fan for of Man City for like 20+ years when they were in the championship in the 90s…

[@joesifa5235]

​@@alexbrown975I totally agree, I think anyone playing under Pep has a "Guardiola Tax" where they seem like 20-30% better than they actually are. Even Messi had his best season under Pep

[@bookeblade]

@@joesifa5235No he didn’t 💀

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

I’d start Maddison over Foden if given the option

[@FormerPessitheRobberfan]

Because you're clueless

[@thf3038]

These guys really need to get their facts right. Hogdson never got relegated with West Brom.

[@DrawnInk1]

I was also pro Southgate but he hasn’t evolved. What about bringing in the under 21s for defensive midfielder.

[@josephfriend6214]

Why can't Declan Rice just firm it and sit in the middle. We've got good options for the box to box midfielder, but Deccers is more than capable to be a 6.

[@pendafen7405]

Yes, have always envisaged him playing best as the 6

[@ActiveArron]

Southgate is unable to stray from his rigid system. He doesn’t understand football on a deep enough level. He couldn’t make his 3-4-3 work in 5 years

[@edenholt4394]

In regards to foden vs Maddison, Foden obviously has a wayy higher ceiling of potential however given city’s depth over the years we haven’t seen him get enough regular starts for him to really show off what he’s about. With Maddison however we know exactly what we’ll get and he’s on hot form right now so playing him makes sense 🤷‍♂️ I do think in a game like this one where the stakes are low, Southgate should definitely be playing Maddison in midfield instead of Henderson which makes room for someone like rashford on the left

[@Euclides287]

The FA should sack him for picking *Maguire* and *Kalvin-Philips* over and over again.

[@jumpingalaxies951]

Hodgson did those things Buvey, yep, and then was one of our worst ever managers.

[@Buvey]

YESSSSS

[@waheedkhan1325]

Spot on buve

[@HistoryForYouOfficial]

Southgate has proven that he isn't the man to get us over the line when it matters. He may have gotten us to semi-finals and finals which is brilliant but it boils down to nothing when we don't turn it into silverware. I'll be the first to say that bias toward English players does exist and it's ridiculous. However, there is no denying that this group of players is arguably the best we've ever had and maybe even the best collective group of players out of all the national teams right now. Southgate has given me the best times in my life as an England fan but we want more than just semi-finals, we want the end product. He is tactically inept and his managerial record proves that. I thank him for his time as England boss but we need a proven winner to elevate this squad just that bit further and bring home a trophy.

[@FranciscoLopez-hp3kf]

As someone who lives in the US. England is like the Cowboys, all that talent lol

[@ShawnShons-ky8rn]

Southgate is doing what Roberto Martinez did with the Belgium golden generation

[@winstong7438]

Southgate is wasting the talent of arguably the world's best bunch of national players England has ever seen by putting a lineup like this out there. Make rice or Bellingham captain, use a 4231 and enjoy winning.

[@Toffinater]

Totally right. When it comes to national squads, fit the system to the players, not the players to the system. You have a bunch of attacking players, yet Southgate plays defence.

[@mathewsherreard487]

Croatia. Italy. France. The moment we play any side with tactical nouns. The bottom falls out. The FA want their YES MAN. The media want their sacrifice lamb. The Waistcoat will stay. We need to face up too harsh realities. We are a quarter final team at best. We advance any further is down too luck of the draw. And any chance of winning anything is in spite of the waistcoat. Not because of him.

[@suso7182]

I’m not backing Southgate, but he’s dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn’t. There is only so many places in the team. Simple as that.

[@natsterjam]

You'll always be damned if you select players who aren't even apperaing for their teams.

[@jamescanning3501]

SIMPLE ANSWER- YES

[@hyywe240]

Answer for anyone over 20. No, you idiots 😂

[@-_-DatDude]

For me our 06 squad, player for player is as good as it will ever get. I know people like point at DM as a problem area but for me the problem has always been the lack of a clutch striker. In 06....We had it with Wazza who was world class but not clutch. Its the same story with this crop. Kane is world class but is not clutch. Sterling and Rashford are arguably our most clutch forwards and its not given that they starts over the likes of Saka, Grealish and Foden... Till we develop a clutch striker we will always be the bridesmaid and never the bride.

[@flopsetturnhouse1827]

Please explain to me how Rooney isn't 'clutch', a term they use in American basketball for last minute shots

[@flopsetturnhouse1827]

Rooney literally scored a last minute winner on his debut at 16 against the mighty arsenal, I'm not even English I'm Irish and your talking rubbish

[@-_-DatDude]

@@flopsetturnhouse1827 When I say clutch. I mean players that have made a reputation of turning up in the big games and big moments for club and country. Examples of clutch players Schmeichel, Messi, Drogba and Sergio Ramos. Different positions but all showed up for their clubs and country. Rooney only scored 1 goal in 11 World Cup matches but it was a open play goal against Uruguay in fairness. Kane has scored 8 in 11 World Cup games but half of those goals was 2 braces against Tunisia and Panama and of those 8 goals, 5 were penalties.

[@xenonsnedden4052]

As good as Rooney was, he scored 1 goal at 4 World Cup tournaments

[@-_-DatDude]

@@xenonsnedden4052 Exactly my point. I'm a Man Utd fan so i know how good Rooney was. Rooney at his best in club football, was surrounded by other world class forwards like CR7, Tevez and van Nistelrooy. That's the problem... At international football barring Euros 04 were he was fantastic due to partnering with other forwards like a world class Michael Owen... Most of his time for the national team he was forced to play lone striker which wasn't his game. But yeah...For me, England will never win a world cup without ruthless/clutch striker.

[@SageNeophyte]

Wrong argument here... What is the best set-up for an available healthy squad? That should be the argument. 4-3-3 Walker Stones Tomori Shaw/Chillwell, Rice Madders/Foden Bellignham, Rashford/Sterling Kane Saka? Southgate keeps putting out really bad unbalances teams like he still have issues with healthy and in-form players like in previous WC and Euros.

[@callumrobertson5119]

No Maguire?

[@SageNeophyte]

Why Maguire?@@callumrobertson5119

[@slkslk15]

Rice 6, Bellingham 8 maddison 10 - it’s clear Maddison isn’t a winger, outrageous to play him there. Maddison is better than foden, numbers are way better in a wayyyy worse team. Foden doesn’t really have a set position also.

[@ernestoortiz3108]

thing is the brilliant manager minds are all in club football. Who out there that can get the best out of those lads?

[@guanxiv]

Howe might be on the market after the Euros, but I’d prefer Ancelotti for the next World Cup if the pieces fit. What a way to go out that would be.

[@alexgascoigne4458]

Harry Kane gonna have boring prolonged exit as Rooney did. Making England 1 dimensional like he did Tottenham.

[@dj44640]

Guys please stop. Aside Kane Trent and Jude no one geta in the 1st 11 compared to the golden gen Winning is another story.

[@dongrace6404]

Can't watch England...Southgate is a fuddy duddy over cautious Pretender

[@jacklane3679]

What does my head in with Southgate is that he could easily maintain his core squad and principles, but still play with 5 top tier attackers in a slightly modified/modernised system. He leaves too much threat on the bench for the sake of pragmatism. We should just flat out copy the Pep blueprint from last season and go with a 442 or 4231 out of possesion, but a 3223 box midfeild in build up. For the pragmatism we can have a block of 5 players with solid defensive profiles that have thrived at possession based clubs and use them as potection and support for 5 class attackers to play with freedom and width. Grealish - Kane - Saka Bellingham - Foden Rice - Stones Colwill - Dunk - Walker Stop shoehorning in Maguire, Philips, Henderson, Trippier out of position and Maddison out of position. Use a core of City playera and fill the rest of the squad with players that fit the system rather than his favourites.

[@fdenier9389]

England team should be - Pope, Walker, Stones, Guehi, Chillwell, Rice, Trent/Madison (depending on opposition), Bellingham, Sterling, Saka, Kane, simple football rules, you get the ball, 2 touches pass then move til your in the final third, then let them have it, we have the creative and flair players there to do it like this, maintain defensive rigidity when against big sides like France with Trent in midfield, maybe going to a 5 with Walker at RCB, and also have the attacking option of going with 1 CDM and 2 10s with Madison

[@ClassyNinja]

Roy Hodgson got relegated with West Brom? We finished 10th in the Prem and didn’t get relegated until 2018?

[@philbobaggins97]

Roy Hodgson didn't get relegated with WBA you lemon. He made us a top half prem team with 0 money, that's why he got hired for England! Buvey loves making up his own facts

[@keegan773]

That last match was abysmal. Team selection was a joke. Maguire and Henderson ffs. Tactics even worse. Were there any ? At least we know they can pass the ball sideways.

[@ronoccc]

it's bizarre how much rory defends henderson

[@Denlar96]

Southgate doesn't experiment with his team. That's probably the most infuriating thing, along with picking players that shouldn't be starting. Players like Maguire, Henderson and Phillips shouldn't be near the squad (Phillips can, if he starts playing more frequent). With experimenting, we have so much quality, but he rarely gives players a chance and sticks with the same 11 all the time. Trial TAA in midfield more or even on the wing. Try Foden in CAM role. Start Wilson or Nkeitiah upfront. Give Ramsdale a chance in goal. Just anything to try and find our best starting 11.

[@mcnetchaiev]

So Rory are you suggesting England do a Mourinho and concede possession against Ukraine's low block? How does that even work? Even City can have 75% possession and 25 shots in a game and loose. That's football.

[@rjflores438]

Southgate has quality players in his squad like Foden, Maddison, Grealish, Bellingham, Kane, Saka, Rice, Stones, even technically gifted players like Sancho and Marcus Edwards that could get a chance at some point, eps Sancho.

[@gavinlisk2292]

Sancho is rubbish!

[@fifi19ism]

i feel bad for sancho united isn't the right club for him he will be completely forgotten about if his situation don't change

[@PHTV11]

Eze>>>>Sancho

[@notan23]

What isn't broght up here is the fact that a manager who's contracted to a club can actually be in charge of a national team as well.

[@waheedkhan1325]

I can’t believe he has been kept for that long , the amount of time the FA gives managers is a joke , he is bang average and always has been , he should have been sacked after the world cup in 2018 , bang average standards when you have a team full of world class talent

[@TheDecline99]

If we don’t beat Scotland he should go.

[@lukelocks9083]

Good point RE: the 2002 team with Danny Mills v WC Brazilian team. You both glaringly miss the obvious RE: Treble winning Barca, that being it had WC Spanish players, Iniesta, Xavi, Alba, Busquets, Villa, Fabregas, Puyol, Pique. Which aside from Messi, were the most important players of that team. CITY's treble winners had in their team & English: Walker, Stones, Grealish. With their stars being Haaland, KDB, Gundagon, Silva. The PL is the most entertaining league in the World, no doubt, foreign players have played a huge role in raising it up to its high levels, which naturally so, brought up the level of English players also. When the PL started bringing in high level footballers, the foreign players like Bergkamp, Henry, CR7, Zola, were the stars of their teams, how things have changed, is recently some of these teams' stars are English, Saka/Arsenal, Kane/Tott, butt no Top PL team is majority English. But the English team they have now, have even WC talent to win a tournament, and would have in Euro20 with a great manager. Last point, the thumbnail to this is really misleading, (I was going to listen to your debate anyway), with 'Sacked' written under the photo of 'Mr. Flukey draw but still cannot win it', gave me hope some one had actually opened the Gate and told him to go South and keep going South untill you're far-far away from this team/squad!

[@ryancarlo9328]

I've never seen an England team succeed to this level that Southgate's has. Managers with much more pedigree and better CVs have tried with England and failed so what promise is there that a top manager will do it this time. Why don't we just count ourselves lucky that we don't have to put up with results like that Iceland game and just be grateful?

[@FormerPessitheRobberfan]

They had worse English players. Get real

[@ryancarlo9328]

@@FormerPessitheRobberfan what Capello and Eriksson? Or Venables and Robson? Did they have worse players?

[@xxbrehmiixx]

Playing any player at LW over Rashford is criminal, surprised his name wasn't mentioned once in this video. Rashford, Kane and Saka is likely the best front 3 in international football, yet we've never seen them play consistently together. That's the biggest reason I'm out on Southgate. I'm confident in saying if Rashford started on the left in the world cup over Foden against France we win that game and potentially the whole thing but he was never given the chance, beyond embarrassing a player with the goal contributions of Rashford last season is only viewed as a utility player for this England squad when, other than Kane, there's noone as potent in front of goal than him.

[@g.g.baxter4868]

The issue is, and remains defensively. Id be fully behind the Southgate out brigade if we had a top defense, but we dont, so some of our negative play is to compensate for that. We are very top heavy. Rashford - Grealish, Maddison - Bellingham, Foden - Saka. Can only start one of each really. Trippier, Shaw (when fit) Stones, Rice, Bellingham, Rashford, Saka, Kane is the making of a top side, the other 3 need some work tho. We desperately need Colwill to push on so we can see the back of Maguire, only way we are gonna get Maddison into MF alongside Bellingham, until then we are stuck with Henderson or Mount

[@bna919]

Foden can play midfield in that right attacking role. Guedhi Colwill Tomori or Dunk can play next to Stones.

[@g.g.baxter4868]

@@bna919 Yeah, long term i think the midfield is Rice, Bellingham and Foden, but right now we need more defensive solidity. Walker and either Shaw or Chilwell push too far forward. Trippier and TTA also. Reece James would likely fix that issue at RB, but we will need a more defensively solid LB too. Long term i think Colwill will sit next to Stones in the left CB role, but for some reason Southgate, and theres no reason another manager wouldnt see the same, see Maguire as a better option than Guedhi, Tomori or Dunk. You would have to assume that if could play without that 2nd defensive Midfielder, we would. Having Shaw, Walker, Foden Bellingham, Rashford or Grealish, Saka and Kane all attacking leaves us too venerable in defense. James and Shaw could do the Cole, Ivanovic roles at Chelsea where one comes inside as the other pushes forward to make it three at the back, but James cant stay fit and isnt ahead of others in that role at the moment

[@bna919]

@@g.g.baxter4868 You can still do the Cole Ivanovic role with Shaw and Walker as they are both comfortable playing in a back 3. All Southgate needs to do is tell the players what he wants them to do. I don't think Henderson offers that much more defensive solidarity than Foden. Foden is a much better presser and Henderson is on the cusp of an athletic decline. Additionally Foden won't do that much defensive work against most teams because England will dominate possession.

[@g.g.baxter4868]

@@bna919 I agree, its just Bellingham and Foden screams of Gerrard and Lampard. Will they have patience to let one go forward and the other sit deeper. I think it would work with Rice providing we can get another CB up to Stones' level and maybe have the Goalkeepers kick on a bit, Ramsdale is perhaps a better sweeper so that might allow a more attacking midfield at the cost of Pickfords better shot stopping

[@n4ht4n80]

We are 100% gonna look back on this in 10 years time after winning nothing and it will be a golden generation ‘what if’ all over again

[@n4r4plays47]

OKAY hear me out... Jose Mourinho next England boss.. You wanna win trophies get the special one

[@anavazquez6218]

a foreign coach? the english don’t want that

[@DanielLoveMetallica]

As an Irishman I'd give him a lifetime contract 😂

[@mrrawww2427]

nothing more frustrating than thinking the england game is on saturday cant wait to see bellingham,foden,rashford,kane, saka but oh no bellingham is on the left and foden is replaced by henderson a guy who has been declining for 18 month and now plays in saudi lmao its bizzare. anyone who follows the premier league and football can see that we have one the best teams in the world not only in first 11 but in squad depth. yet hes playing not to lose games and defensively hes holding this generation back

[@Akinwalesegun]

So who will replace gareth? Cos i doubt any top foreigne coach will takenthe job considering how the last couple were treated

[@KR-jg7gc]

Stephen Howson been saying that for at least a year or two.

[@timjames2654]

This current generation of players is nowhere near the level of the 82, 90, 96 or 02 teams who were generally competing against higher quality opposition (in games that mattered). But I agree the current team would improve under a decent manager.

[@BonnyJosman]

Portugal 04 also was for the takin´

[@eddiechea3603]

Are we talking about the same England team that got outplayed by the U.S. in the World Cup. England haven’t won anything with any manager since the 60s I don’t even think the great Pep can win with England.

[@manniking233]

Most of the higher quality opposition doesn't exist now, so England should be taking advantage of that to seal the deal. Southgate gets in the way of that.

[@piptarget9150]

Based on merit alone, this should be the current England starting line up team: In Goal Nick Pope Defense Kyle Walker (Right back) Fikayo Tomori (Center back) Marc Guéhi (Center back) Tyrick Mitchell (Left back) Midfielders Declan Rice (Holding Defensive Midfielder) Bukayo Saka (Righ Winger) Phil Foden (Left Winger) James Maddison (Central Play-Maker) Jude Bellingham (Number 10 Play-Maker/second Striker) Striker Eberechi Eze (Lone Striker) This above team, would smash anyone 4 or 5 Nil

[@PHTV11]

As a Palace fan you had me at Guehi and lost me at Eze as a striker. Harry Kane all day as st and eze is not a striker in any way. Cm is his main position.

[@alexandrosmironis6093]

stone;

[@Gary-vx7gp]

Surely March should be in the squad?

[@matthewjennings5893]

The title got my hopes up!!!

[@andyfox8377]

Why are we restricting ourselves to just english managers?? Look at the womans team with their success with a dutch manager!

[@shuebyyy]

I seen the title of this video and immediately said yes.

[@dazo8671]

Watch how England destroys a national team, international football is different especially for countries that have never won anything

[@nippz2831]

JWP over both Henderson and Phillips but Henderson is still better than Phillips

[@justl1234]

England need to win the euros. They have a golden opportunity. Spain is building something special but aren’t ready. Germany and Italy are struggling right now.

[@danruss12338]

Now no, 9 months until a major tournament, plus who is there out there to replace him? Club and international football are two different things, only certain coaches can work with international teams so it takes time to find a replacement. Personally I see him going after the euros no matter what, and personally I think after the world Cup in Qatar he probably should have walked, then we would have had plenty of time before the next major tournament. No matter what he does in the euros, people will always be jumping on his back. Also to judge him after one game against Ukraine is ridiculous, he was quite clearly mixing a few things up, it was essentially a friendly so was a good opportunity. To sack him now would be ridiculous in my opinion, and all these people calling for that were just bored with no prem football, no matter what you think of him sacking him now would be a bad thing.

[@bongs_esc]

Buvey is Southgate in disguise 🥸 😂😂😂😂 an absolute shambles what he’s talking

[@TommyDJr45]

Steve Cooper IS an interesting shout 🤔

[@jasonmillsom2981]

I'm scottish and we finally look somewhat solid and have belief, I feel if England can't beat us, with their squad, that is a sackable offence