Should Harden start at point guard?

First take debate whether James Harden should be starting for the OKC Thunder. Watch more videos like this at www.espnamerica.com

[@210Dinero]

5 years later, he starts at point guard and balls out. Skip was right lol

[@MCFoultier]

OKC, what did you do...

[@sankeerthkoshy8439]

Skip is right on everything in basketball except for on Lebron

[@Tobyee]

*OKC had 3 league mvps - They ended up only with Russ lol*

[@sankeerthkoshy8439]

Charles James I mean in basketball takes

[@yourmotherslefttesticle3892]

Charles James yes he is you clown

[@guru_basketball_kiero]

he's starting at PG in Houston now.... and look at him

[@ajjurae]

Shakiero Hambrick look at westbrook bro, Houston has more shoorers

[@curtismynameheard4628]

Shakiero Hambrick n lost

[@tidianebah5549]

On god thats faxx

[@Tobyee]

*2018 MVP*

[@anchorlines001]

skip was actually funny in this one. Stephan: I look at Westbrook differently than you do. I look at Westbrook having a dual role.. Skip: A dual role? He has a solo role. shoot. Skip: everyday he has 3 or 4 assist...by accident. Not hating but that shit was funny though.

[@guerorivera9276]

When skip don't have a personal vendetta against someone he has great takes looking back at some of his older stuff.

[@TheFadedSpade35]

He makes good point about most things even LeBron, just goes a bit far sometimes

[@farrasskicker]

12 year later theyre playing on the same team again and Harden is the starting PG, while Westbrook is the one that comes off the bench for him.

[@b_lake8312]

That’s crazy how skip was right

[@ratsolla]

What skip was saying is literally this nets team. With an upgrade to westbrook un kyrie. Skip a seer.

[@chipshead3079]

Not even close. Okcs bench was trash

[@Christopher._M]

You right hahaha

[@TheEliteTree]

9 years later this aged well with Skip, I give em this one lol

[@samfisher8536]

Damn was Stephen A the only dude to stay at ESPN and not go to fox

[@MrBarberboy42]

Did you not see the 💰 he got? Lol.

[@mylessmith8059]

Seeing these 3 together now is weird ESPN really had a monopoly going on before fs1 lol

[@Princeofsaiyans_comedy]

Skip has been absolutely right so many times and every athlete hates him for it. Stephen A been wrong to much

[@dukeholidai]

When Skips rational, logical, not emotional, he’s never off. Period

[@zackarmstrong.3089]

Lmfaoo Skip for the most part is still very rational and logical. If anything, SHANNON is the overly-emotional one especially when it comes to Lebron

[@ForgiveMYHaterZ]

If harden were still with thunder he shoula been starter with westbrook on bench

[@bigty390]

Chill

[@derekjackson7501]

Stay off the weed!!!

[@tyrobinson4730]

Can you say that now?

[@ForgiveMYHaterZ]

Yes, harden had a better season considering the state of the Houston rockets

[@luisreyeskc1560]

I sort of agree I'd have Westbrook at pg and harden at sg

[@Sonido007]

I wonder if Scott Brooks ever thought about starting Harden and making Westbrook the sixth man, I doubt Westbrook would agree but not a bad idea to try it.

[@buddahkz9980]

11 years later this is happening on the clippers lol

[@IanBitton]

Skip was right all along... harden is much better than Russ

[@Tobyee]

*Skip was right for once Lol If they chose Harden, OKC could've been nba champ already with fully-developed KD & Harden*

[@Sonido007]

Yeah because Westbrook actually starts at PG while Harden comes off the bench and plays SG, Harden is the better playmaker, Westbrook is too much of a scorer.

[@Antrizzle2009]

Actually in basketball years its not when you considering the guy never played point gaurd in his life until he got to the NBA and now all of a sudden he's being asked to play the most complicated position on the floor when his natural instinct is that of a scoring gaurd. Point gaurds are born. You don't just magically become a point gaurd. Philly tried that once upon a time with Iverson, it doesn't work that way.

[@Sully12BB]

That isn't what a poing guard is supposed to do though, that's Skip's point. He's saying that Westbrook is a 2 guard, and if the Thunder started somebody else at point guard it would be better for the team. He's not saying Westbrook is bad, he's saying Westbrook shouldn't take more shots than Durant, which he obviously shouldn't. I mean why does the point guard with the 3 time scoring champion take 4 more shots than him EVERY GAME?

[@Yuri-sd6gm]

OKC should've got rid of Westbrook, not Harden... With James and Durant as starters, they could've already won a ring. As they picked Russ, they will win SHIT.

[@sankeerthkoshy8439]

Yuri all harden would do is chock in the playoffs

[@Tobyee]

*KD + Harden is perfect match*

[@Spac3Ghost]

aye skip is right

[@ExavierArce]

From the future skip was right

[@chandlerthehandler795]

Man I've been watching these old videos, and Skip has been right quite a few times, not everytime of course but alot more than I knew

[@Christopher._M]

Surprisingly he makes good takes when he isn't hating or taking a side.

[@weluvharden]

Crazy how right he was.

[@davincerica7232]

Obviously we know Skip was right... But SAS killed him with Manu comment

[@AstroXxDragon]

Harden was always a better point than Westbrook he can score and pass great

[@TheDemia14]

yes, but you can't say that he is "11th or 12th" in rotation...this guy is 3rd best player in this team and maybe one of better SGs in league, in any other team he would be starter and he would average 20+ ppg, but because of Westbrook (not good as PG btw) and because there is no one who can come of the bench - he comes of the bench and plays GREAT! truth to be told, I think that OKC would have chance to beat Heat in The Finals with some other player running the point, but not with Westbrook...

[@peaceandlove8026]

Now look 👀

[@Jamesahn123]

lmao at what skip said "russell westbrook gets like 3 or 4 assists a game by accident

[@Dope999]

People who don't know this video is pre-Houston must think like: "What??"

[@iwaneatmeat]

thunders should have keep harden and trade westbrook for young and smart point guard like rondo, irving, holiday, lillard, curry or even jlin or rubio etc and some first round picks

[@prozac.]

JD Lee Lol this is pretty funny to read now

[@johnwickkkkk1]

makeouthill actually he’s not wrong. Ima westbrook fan but keeping harden, and trading for curry would be the best move in nba history.

[@chrismartin1812]

@@johnwickkkkk1 deadass curry harden and durant 😓

[@mussymuss1]

I agree, that's why these people aren't coaches and just spectators.

[@tuckerjohnson5957]

Agreed to an extent. They're not nearly as good without him but at the same time he still messes up a lot. It bugged the hell out of me when people wanted him to be traded for being so sloppy. He's young and he'll mature and become a smarter player eventually. The Thunder aren't nearly as good without him mistakes or no mistakes.

[@Slermington]

yeah he accidentally passed it for most of the assists that season

[@w00deey12]

Wow…. SAS used to have actual basketball takes. Now he just regurgitates shooting percentages

[@gandgpolaroid6406]

Harden now is close to Be one of The best scorer ever in Pg role ahahaha this shit funny as hell !

[@Amm17ar]

I wouldnt trade Ibaka, him and Perkins are probably the toughest and best defensive front court I have seen in a looong time. Remember now that Dwight Howard is in the west, there gunna be seeing alot of Dwight, I would want the best defense possible to take out the best threat. They should have jumped when Steve Nash became available. CP3 isnt going anywhere anymore hes gunna play the rest of his valuable career in LA.Boston will be only desperate enough team to trade for Westbrook. But not yet

[@dathunderman4]

Westbrook is like a taller Allen Iverson. he would be much better with a team with defensive guys that he can carry similar to what AI had in Philly. i dont think Westbrook would be a great shooting guard cause of his lack of height and perimeter shooting ability. Plus i think he's a better player on the ball cause it forces defenses to play up on him whereas on off the ball situation, the defenders sag cause they dont respect Westbrook's shooting ability, making it harder for him to penetrate

[@kOoLppT191]

james harden is a WAY better pg than westbrook. but what makes the thunder so good is that harden comes off the bench. the thunder could definately be the best team in the league if westbrook played differently. westbrook needs to pick his spots better. the main weapon for the thunder should be Durant,not durant&westbrook. and when james harden is in the game hes the pg. they are at there best when harden is distributing and pickin his spots.

[@kadeemthomas6]

Skip was right James is just better & makes other people better👌🏾

[@mkeets]

NO leave him at the 2 he's waaaay to slow to guard a point and you lose Westbrooks ball pressure. Plus I doubt Harden can control the tempo and push it in transition like Westbrook can. Westbrook got 8.5 assists the past 2 years on accident? Lol skips a DA

[@Amm17ar]

that wouldnt solve their money problem though man, cuz then your going from paying a max contract to westbrook and have no money for harden to paying a max contract to Rondo or CP3 and still have no money left. If I were them, I would trade westbrook to toronto or minisota or something, a team with a pass first point guard who makes the plays but doesnt break the bank, but obviously get a couple first rounders to make it worth while. Toronto would be my first choice though Brick for Calderon

[@Basterdbazinga]

every nba gm -(maybe not the knicks gm) cp3 and rondo are way better (i mean waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay) better point guards - westbrooks needs a team where he can be scoring option no1 and play at the 2 spot

[@Ronaldo92379]

Skip reminds me a bit of Dr Cox from Scrubs :D

[@13kingsDELSOL]

I hate how they have this whole discussion without mentioning sefolosha once, He is the one who ultimately harden would be replacing. These two always seem to digress and miss the point

[@Scarface_iii]

that could be the greatest comment in youtube history if you read this please hit the "read commment"

[@theanswer01]

Because Manu is healthy Skip? That's why you need Harden to come off the bench to match Manu. You can still have Harden running the point without him starting at PG

[@BackwardshturT]

there were 8 accidental assists. of course you gonna get assists when you pass to kd35 because hes gonna make those shots no matter who passed it.

[@Nine1sixty]

Lmfao.... This guy said westbrook gets 3-4 assists a night by accident!! funniest shit ive herd!

[@imcool1347]

Skip knows his shit.

[@ygozoom]

whats wrong with you? yes he didnt do to good in the finals, but hes the third best player on the team, why would you take him out??

[@jeppep95]

i agree ai is a better scorer and dribbler than than westbrook but in the NBA these days would you consider him the "new" AI?

[@mzc079]

westbrook is more of a scorer than a court facilitator...i have to to agree that harden is a better point guard than westbrook.

[@jacobisaiballadareszelaya1984]

Kd has a super team his entire carrer and just has 2 rings. Incredible

[@michelleharding9646]

Casual if you think the thunder were ever a superteam

[@stopplzs]

You probably started watching basketball in 2016 if you think they were a super team

[@jacobisaiballadareszelaya1984]

@@michelleharding9646 come on man how the fuck lakers 2019 were a super team with 5 players who nobody wanted in their team and 4 comming of injuries. and the thunder with kd, russell westbrook, serge ibaka, steve adams, andre roberson come on man. that team was better than the cavs team of lebron WAY better.

[@jacobisaiballadareszelaya1984]

@@stopplzs come on man, if you think lebron has a super team in cleveland and lakers you need to understand kd has been in a super team his entire carrer. but if you dont think that im with you. because kd has westbrook, harde, steve adams, ibaka, robertson, oladipo in okc, thats amazing, way better than cavs lebron or even lakers 2019-20

[@stopplzs]

@@jacobisaiballadareszelaya1984 I don’t think the thunder were a super team ever because they only had 2 all stars. Harden was a bench player in 2012 and didn’t become a superstar until he went to Houston

[@payneicecold3000]

Even though Westbrook went out they got bounced out of the playoffs. I bet if Durant went out they wouldn't have beat Rockets.

[@TheDemia14]

well, that's true also...but still, saying that he is 11th or 12th player in OKC is a bit too much, don't you think? :)

[@And1one757]

Crazy to think James harden used to bench player

[@kenyattamorris1581]

“He has 3 or 4 assists by accident” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ArtOfTheArc]

imagine if jeff green and harden were still on the thunder...

[@MCFoultier]

and KD

[@chipshead3079]

@@MCFoultier and russ

[@JaCkEr504]

He's not gonna be that good forever. Teams will figure out how to guard him fast since he torches so many teams.

[@jerryworld3656]

Y in the fuck would you have harden on the bench anyway. Smh 😒 if not the one than the 2

[@worldsavy]

After last night's game, Skip called this one. Harden starting as pg for the okc would have been sick to see.

[@bostoncelticsfan1996]

@pbowles23 wtf??? he has the most gifted scorer in the league. he can average 15 assists off of just durant

[@TheMoleman90]

but then your getting no scoring spark from your bench? It only really matters who finishes, not starts

[@JaCkEr504]

Then you go ahead, and explain to me why the hell they got rid of Harden and not Westbrook.

[@Amm17ar]

Yeah, they wont be able to sign Harden to an extension. Trade Westbrick and keep Harden

[@QuackMamba34]

I normally don't agree with what Skip says. But this is true, Westbrook is a ball hog.

[@CalmlyBreathe]

People should take skip more seriously, he's usually right... js.

[@7LamarOdom]

lmao russel westbrook is still better pg than harden. he avg 6.8 apg harden 2.5 apg

[@FRESHIETILLIDIE]

im just waiting for the day skip just goes off and starts cursing at Stephen

[@theTJray]

So OKC had no chance against San Antonio with Russell? How'd they win in six then?

[@Christianjkd1]

I disagree with stephen a with 1 thing. Harden is a better pg than westbrook.

[@MrJoseph308]

because westbrrok isnt a point guard he just plays it for the thunder

[@damarihunter1768]

The Odd Undisputed Take 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Sonido007]

Maybe, but if Westbrook disagrees, then he won't play as hard so it will hurt the team anyways, if he does agree won't hurt to try. Either that or if OKC doesn't win the champioship this year then I would go for trading Westbrook for a passing PG and a scoring big, maybe to the Celtics for Rondo and Bass.

[@lovexxxice]

Skip is the worst analyst ever my grandma understands NBA better

[@2010raquan]

then the next season aound the same point avg and a drop to 5apg

[@Nine1sixty]

I know, that shit was just funny to me. He's right

[@JrVidKiidd]

true but westbrook is a combo guard so he should play 2guard

[@kofibiatchECE1]

westbrook should go sg and harden pg and put sefolosha 6 man

[@Pehtlos]

I agree, Westbrook can't be a point guard for a championship team, I know for sure celtics would've beat them last year in the finals if the celtics made it.

[@marshallchristopher1304]

Preach many of us knew only presti didn't know😂😂

[@MrDaBuhle]

ahha when Skip raises his hand!

[@xxSnipezPBxxFTWx10]

this is a easy solution, just start Scalabrine at Point.

[@stevenbarnes7960]

Cant believe they traded harden

[@Sonido007]

Yeah Harden can score 20 ppg, Durant can obviously score 30+ if given the chance. I think Wall is an option but I would go for Rondo first.

[@ChrisSmooveismyson]

Harden shouldn't start ! leave him 6th man

[@seanaznboy]

Trade harden for cp3 or rondo then move westbrook to sg

[@Brownies888]

every game he has like 3 or 4 assists...by accident hahaha lol

[@Vruxz]

He also makes stupid ass decisions, jacks more shots than KD who is the best shooter on the team, he causes a LOT of turnovers, his rotations on defense are fucking grotesque. Although I agree with everything you said, you have to see his MAJOR MAJOR flaws. If he played shooting guard on the other hand, that would be a different story!

[@bryandapogi23]

i say yolo and put harden and point

[@jimmmy465]

Are you serious? A.I would humiliate Westbrook all over the court with his jump shot, speed and more importantly his legendary CROSS-OVER!

[@Cgep96]

westbrook needs the ball or he wont be satisfied

[@TheBananiLani]

who would ever trade cp3 or rondo for westbrook?

[@michaelvick3822]

did skip actually say something smart?

[@DjTriggzl6]

skip is 2 raw this man kills me

[@Sonido007]

Exactly, but seeing how Westbrook is their second star I don't think the team would agree.

[@JaCkEr504]

He's young, and he's learning his game slowly, he's getting better every year. He's learning to take care of the ball better. Give this team a few years, I bet they run the heat out of the building. Russell Westbrook isn't even in his prime it, and neither is Kevin Durant, they'll destroy Miami eventually.

[@Antrizzle2009]

25 isn't that young but I get what you're saying. Only time will tell I guess. I just think this is his game and to be honest in most situations OKC is better when he's aggressive. Just drives me crazy in close games when he forces up shots when Durant clearly has a better matchup. On top of that Durant doesn't have the personality to go up to him and be like "hey man GIVE ME THE BALL", like say a Kobe would. Then again, that might be a good thing in the long run.

[@Amm17ar]

He might be more explosive, but Iverson was ALOT smarter, he created amazing space with he crossovers and step backs. Iverson was faster, passed more often. The only category that I can say without arguement that Westbrick is better is Defense. Hes a hound dog. If he puts his mind to it Westbrook can be the best defensive point guard, with a hell of a offensive game.

[@Amm17ar]

When your playing a team like for example the Lakers, Ibaka guards the deadly Pau Gasol who thanks to Dwight, now going to be able to play the role hes most comfertable with which is stepping out and shooting the open 10-15 ft jumpers. Ibaka guards him, while arguably the only person who can guard Dwight Howard straight up no double teams in Perkins guards the most dominant big in the game. Trust me they need both bigs

[@08LBJ]

THX FOR THE UPLOAD!

[@jeppep95]

Westbrook is the new allen iverson?