Should "People Who Actually USE Their Knives" Be Allowed To Buy Them BEFORE "Collectors"? - TKG 209

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[@Mainrollman]

100% believe in first come, first serve. I've chased some knives for 6-7 months before I was able to get what I wanted. Some I've been chasing for years and still haven't got one. If the "user guy" beats me on a drop for a knife then good for him. I'll try again on the next drop. I collect knives, some of them I use and some of them I don't. It's my choice what I do with them, so I don't care what other people do with theirs.

[@charlessalmond7076]

I'm that "user" guy. I feel exactly the same. We all work for what we want. When we can find it, we buy it. I just missed yet another Hinderer drop while I was working. It wasn't the first, won't be the last. Ill keep trying.

[@Sesh422]

I fall into both categories. I think collectors and users can both agree that “ebay resellers” using bots to snipe the drops are the ones who should be talked about.

[@CaptChet81]

Some I use some I fidget with lol😅

[@anthonym6078]

You hit the nail on the head man, if someone beats me on a drop then good for them. It took me well over a year to get the XM18 I wanted, and another 6-7 months to get the textured TI scale for it. That's part of what makes this hobby fun, sometimes you win and you get to buy the knife you wanted and sometimes you lose and the knife you want is sold out by the time you load the page. If you're spending the money for the knife then its up to you what you do with it, whether you use it or put it in a case to collect it.

[@patrickwarren7404]

Well said!

[@maybefrank8345]

My great granddaddy Jud fought his way outta the Great Mower Rebellion of 1803 with nothing but a rusty stump, and like he always said, “ya can’t spell pride of ownership without pry”

[@metal_complex]

LOL

[@SpankyK]

DED

[@mattchumley6735]

That was beautiful.

[@OneMinuteKnifeReview]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Zaydok_Allen]

Great video and agree 100%. I carry knives that range from $200-$1000. They all get used but not abused. In fact I’ll say I baby them and keep cheap beaters around for when I don’t want to dirty up my good knife. But that doesn’t entitle me to anything other than a credit card bill when I buy stuff I don’t need. You want to beat on your stuff? Go for it. But that doesn’t mean I don’t get to buy the same stuff.

[@wesb123]

I like having both and price doesn’t exactly dictate if a knife gets used or not.

[@craigrj232323]

Isn't it weird that we can buy a knife that costs a grand, but then we get a knife that costs under 100 and the 100 dollar knife sits in the safe. For me, it's a boker dessert warrior. Meanwhile my fancy sebenza, fancy medford get a lot of pocket time. OEM made Chaves get the most pocket time for me though. Waited 5 years for a microtech stitch and got an all blacked out. Had it now for months and still can't put it in my pocket yet. Did the same with my higher end heretics. The most expensive heretic has had a ton of use/multiple sharpening.

[@simplytao]

Absolutely not. That's coming from a user. A collector is "using" the knife just in a different way.

[@knifetech101]

I collect and use my knives but some don’t end up getting used because I don’t plan on keeping them.

[@CerealKiller669]

i have a $200 lionsteel and a $600 boker. my lionsteel gets used daily for hard and light use. my boker gets used on special occasions like when i have steak for dinner or a package to open lol. just looking at, and appreciating the work on my boker is worth the money to me.

[@OneMinuteKnifeReview]

That’s how it begins…..what ever you do, do not get into watches

[@willb7713]

You seem to have a lot of fun with most of the TKG episodes you do. I'm glad, because I usually enjoy them a lot myself.

[@ahoyt653]

I consider myself a user that collects. Now that being said, I’ve haven’t made it to the “premium” category yet. I see both sides. The way I view it is, if I really want something I just have to be faster than the next guy…..

[@voodoo7008]

I have Strider, Benchmade, Hogue, Spyderco, and a few others that are decent. None are fancy, or custom. They are all off the rack users. I can’t afford the custom, or ultra premium.

[@OneMinuteKnifeReview]

Not a bad collection spread though

[@voodoo7008]

@@OneMinuteKnifeReview The Striders hurt the bank account, but they are my favorites. The Spyderco Manix 2 XL is pretty nice.

[@OneMinuteKnifeReview]

@@voodoo7008 i agree on bank acct, had one bank act. Actually manix2xl , mine was traded to Jerad Kneeve for a couple of his, still have his para3lw , carry it often…

[@bobmahnamahknob]

If you want to spend your money on something to look at that I would rather use, then to the victor go the spoils. If I buy it, I am using it. Then again, my purchase of above $500 knives are VERY limited.

[@rench55]

I'm in the "user" category. But then, I don't own a knife that I've paid more than $70 for, so I don't feel the need to go first. I do however, like watching your channel (among others) because I appreciate beautiful and unique knives, and I can see and experience through your eyes (camera) the knives I will never buy because I wouldn't want to wreck one by using it. I'll keep watching...

[@christahendershot1496]

And people that drive more than 50,000 miles a year get first dibs on automobiles lol

[@HyperactiveNeuron]

I absolutely believe that collectors contaminate every thing. I'm fine with collecting. I'm a collector myself but it's really hard to get your hands on almost anything because collectors are involved. I'm a handyman/woodworker and it's super hard to get a hold of a quality used tool because Cracker Barrel hangs old/used hand planes on the wall of the million stores they have. Does that fuck things up for the rest of us... Yes it does!

[@HellaDope512]

There are programs to counter people that use bots. This is a thing in the sneaker community too. Sites like Nike and Adidas use programs to filter out and cancel bot purchases. That would be great if some of the knife sites did the same thing. As a connoisseur of both it’s a daily struggle. In the end it’s really the people who control the websites, that have the ability to add these programs but it seems like as long as inventory is sold out it doesn’t matter to them.

[@cityDEPrep]

I was a "User" for decades, carrying a Buck 110/112 and not giving any more thought to these tools than I do to my hammers or drivers. Then I discovered Spyderco and became a "User/Enthusiast" hybrid, branching out to many other makers. The inevitable Act III took about a year before I became a "User/Enthusiast/Spyderco Collector." I will say that I don't own a single knife that doesn't get used. My collector-level Spyderco knives get light use, of course, with a RAT Model 1 always ready in another pocket.

[@somedude0505]

Ever seen or heard of a "69 GTO Judge with 120 miles found in someones garage and the family is selling it since the owner passed away"? Or somerhing similar, you get the idea. Thats what i think of knive collectors, enjoy it or someone else will eventually.

[@paulbosley6448]

I love that guy almost as much as I love driving my brand new 69 goat:)

[@crktritual]

Sounds like the “knife user” beef against “collectors” is sour grapes. I’m bit of a hybrid leaning toward knife user myself. Happy 4th of July y’all !!

[@DankLeaf47]

I know an old timer who has been collecting knives of all kinds during his lifetime and they are all on display but are all visibly used and and have a patina from years of use. He would buy a knife and use it until he felt it had lived its life as a well used tool and essentially retired them to their displays to live on. Cheers!

[@BillBranscome]

For me it doesn’t bother me one way or the other! If you can by expensive knife and that’s what you like than go for it! For me none of the knives i by are over 120 bucks, most I use, a few are nice and I don’t want to damage them. To me there are so many knives on the market if I can’t find the one I want then I just look for a alternative with the features I like in a knife.

[@CaptChet81]

I went from comic books to knives 😅 a collector always collects

[@x-s6002]

I know for knife companies this must be a nice problem to have lol. I think you're seeing the market kinda respond to this by having a "regular" version and "premium" version of a knife. Hopefully to capture both market s. But I do wonder when companies like Spyderco do sprint runs and they only make a few, does thst create resentment and harm the reputation long term? I know a few ppl that won't buy another Spyderco for example until they release more slyz bowies.

[@GorggW]

yeah i'm a knife guy, i got a $50 hotdog knife Kalashnikov on display on my shelf and a custom pm2 i spent $500 on in my pocket every day

[@snowhusk]

23:10 I was thinking about this some time ago and I realized that being a knife enthusiast, collector or even "pure user" is still all about excessive appreciation for the tool. Nobody really "needs" more than 2-3 knives, yet many of us have way more and yet we still want to buy some more of them

[@brucelevering8789]

MC sounding like a Canadian hinge head character on South Park for the user voice.. PRICELESS! 😅 👌

[@danofiremano]

Like you, I dislike the fact people use bots to buy knives just to flip them, but I'm not someone who has to have every knife I see either! I found a new Spyderco Drunken about 9 months ago (in an Army surplus at a great price) & haven't carried it yet, even though I use my stuff. ~ LoL

[@SwedishPete]

I get that you can feel disappointed if you wanted a specific knife for work, etc... That being said, is there any work that absolutely demands that exact knife? There's always knives that are about the same, right? Regardless of price. So, in the end, it comes down to you wanting that specific knife. Because you like it 🙂

[@kermitthepog7063]

11:25 "It belongs in a museum!"

[@Buzz-Killjoy]

You need to use that "user" voice for an entire video at some point 😁

[@jonathanwatson268]

I think we have all said "but I was gonna use it!" At least once. Especially when you're new to knife world and find that first hard to get knife that your REALLY want 😂 But i definitely agree that if you're just gonna beat up your knife, just get an AD-10, AD-15, SR1, etc and quit complaining about $300+ knives selling out too quick 😂 and if you want US made there are plenty from Kershaw and ZT.

[@clem8fan]

While the flippers and scalpers definitely piss me off, I still believe first come first serve and the chase is part of the enjoyment and rush of the hobby to me personally

[@Sleepy_spartan717]

It should be even shot for everybody. Different financial positions make for different priced users. Neither party is more special than the other. I personally carry my arius as a user more than most of my other knives. But I’ve also moved up to higher end knives over time. But neither collector or used is more entitled imo. I’ve got $20 knives and $1000 knives. Most get used. Some that are much harder to get get carried, fidgeted with and still used. Just not nearly as hard as say a crk zaan or my xm’s. I don’t mind spending good money on a user. It’s no different than buying Snap-on over Stanley tools. You pay for the quality bump.

[@xCreepyKidsx]

Think of all the people who buy shoes or preorder games and will literally never use them. It's not much different. But to me if I'm going to use a knife it's not going to be some $400+ knife, it's going to be a good high quality beat the hell of it and keep going blade at a great price.

[@scrick7112]

Good morning Complex. I always enjoy your Sunday thoughts. Have a great day.

[@alexdiaz2308]

I'm a user in the simple fact that I use my knives to show them off to other people. I hardly ever cut anything.

[@christianmcbride9905]

Hahahahah I just love it when you do the "voices", I probably tune in more for your sass than anything else. Well that's not entirely true but I do enjoy it quite a bit lol. But you do also showcase some fantastically beautiful knives that I'll probably never be able to afford. Love what yer doing and appreciate everything you do for the community. Peace

[@blakeshively]

As someone who "actually uses" my knives I can tell you I ain't using the ones above $100 all that often. My Moras cut boxes and rope about as good as my Benchmades. And in a pinch I can use the Mora to do something stupid like pretending it's a screwdriver. I ain't doing that with my $300 knives! But my $20 throw away is practically a multi tool.

[@HarryBallsich]

I do the exact same. As do most of us.

[@darryljuice9058]

This is stand-up comedy for knife people. I had a good laugh

[@madjeffry933]

I would shove myself in that user category 100% With that said though I can appreciate the collecters eye as well. Some knives that are put out and made are beautiful works of art. Some in appearance, some in function, and some in both regards. As someone who stays in the $60 and lower category. You bet they see quite a bit of use and in some cases also take a bit of abuse. Eventually I'll pull the trigger and buy something of both beauty and quality. It will be heavily admired and of course gently used haha.

[@thomaslake7200]

“Infiltrating the structure” has become a phrase I use regularly. My wife and kids have no idea from where I got it. Thanks MC.

[@dlegal9557]

Great Randy Savage voice lol. Every time you went off on a funny rant, I thought of Peter Griffin's lol. Great topic. Ive hunted for months on some knives and come across people that will have 30 knives on display and multiples of the knife im looking for. Ask them if they wanna sell it and if they say No, then thats it. Im happy that they can enjoy them that much. The chase is part of the hobby. Theres no other way it should be than first come first served.

[@sethman88]

first come first serve, it doesn't matter what your doing with the knife. As long as your not going and re-selling for like 2X the price. what someone does with their $$ and Knife is their business.

[@jawaring4367]

"collectors" are just scalpers by another name. Places like BladeHQ and KnifeCenter (and all retail stores tbh) should limit the number of knives that can be purchased by one person or sent to the same address. Let people verify their accounts and preorder ahead of time so that scalpers with bots don't stand a chance

[@jamesrussell8711]

**First and foremost*** As someone who likes sneakers too, I generally abhor the botting because it's an unfair advantage that isn't available to everyone. If you buy multiples of a product on spec, using traditional means (non-bot/cook group), that's fine bc its a calculated risk that there's a market to create a return on investment and maybe they see a trend before others. There's actually laws against it for concert tickets that are enforced by the SEC. The BOTS Act. I believe that such laws should be enforced across the board. Brands that know botting is occurring and do nothing to hinder it (there are ways to prevent it and software designed specifically for that); they should be boycotted and publicly called out for such behavior. ************ Now then, "USE" vs "Collector" In general, a knife that's typically made for functionality and real edc use, AKA "a tool", is likely going to be easier to get. In all honesty, unless you're using shredded hundred dollar bills soaked in Louis XIII cognac as your fire starter; how many people are honestly using a midgards-messer, microtech ultratech, etc for batoning wood on a camping trip, or cutting heavy 2in thick rope? Many of the collector-type knives are not ideal for edc "use" because of ergonomics, functionality, blade material, etc.

[@patrickbledsoe2176]

It's gotta be 1st come 1st serve... man leatherman has 1 coming out on the 5th and I'm torn between all 3 aspects of this... collect it display it, use it show it off... and sell it for a quick buck... also I agree carrying a dull stump of the knife is pointless it'll be no use when ya need to use a knife.. also I probably won't even try to get that new leatherman

[@joshuaimler7922]

Lets take for instance Al MAR KNIVES kinda expensive at first but then the creator dies and now the price goes up . I had to wait 13 years. No I do not use it,this one is a collection keeper. So ya I feel ya… thanks for the info and have a happy safe forth of July 😎✌️

[@ericyoast]

It's a "no win" debate. But, a good debate to have!!!!

[@ryantill406]

Is this really a conversation that comes up? Been doing my own car and home repairs for over a decade; by no means am I contactor, as I essentially earn a living behind a screen, but as any DIY type person you accumulate nice tools, high end impacts/ power tools, hand tools, etc. and being of similar price ranges to many of the nicer knives. Most useful tools universally for me have been ratcheting screw drivers w/ like 40+ bits, or socket wrench, of course a drill, or something specific like wire cutter/crimper, but seldomly a knife (unless your surviving in the woods or something I guess, but I dont think those are the knives being discussed). In fact, was doing basic stuff over the weekend, hanging/installing mirrors, shelves and cabinets in a salon and chose to use a cheap husky box cutter as much as possible instead of the the $200-$300 knife I had on me. This market is for the collector/enthusiast - one spyderco, one sebenza , one cold steel could suffice for near a life time, but does anyone stop with one? They probably would prefer you didn't stop with one. Some are clearly tools, or weapons, or showpieces or art but all are for sale. Who goes first? The one willing to cough up the cash and pull the trigger in the moment, and under the most extreme circumstances then the highest bidder, its called a free market, whether you put it under glass while wearing gloves, stash it in a tool belt or throw it in the ocean, every dollar is just as good as any other dollar. is it really a free market? thats a different channel

[@tgafire87]

I buy/collect nice knives to use and I don’t care about rarity. Also I believe in first come first serve no matter how frustrating it can be. Use = EDC as a wildland firefighter.

[@randyparker4731]

I think the problem is the companies not making enough of the knives that people want all because they want to keep the value up

[@northernninety7]

I am steadfast and sturdy in my foundation and dedication to Opinel. It's all a man needs cause it works in every situation. Need to open a box? Opinel! Need to cut food? Opinel! Your Opinel broke? Duct tape it and have yourself an Opinel fixed blade. Need to get someone off of ya? Opinel! You just put in a fresh, unused bag in your garbage? Opinel! Need to check your tire pressure? Opinel! MC notices that you aren't subscribed. Arch Nemesis!

[@babyeater350]

Yeah I've been trying to get my hands on a shaman for a GOOD number of months at this point

[@joshrolfe86]

I think use case is irrelevant to purchase priority. Knives are out there for purchase, it’s honestly not that hard to get something you want, people just have to be patient and vigilant. But you can’t put more intrinsic value on using the knife than enjoying it in other ways. Spoils to the most vigilant ⚔️🗡️

[@rustysreality1091]

At purchase, You select user or collector. if you select user, Your knife is used to baton 3 pieces of wood and thrown at a hanging wood target 3 times before it is sent to you.. You said it at the beginning of the video, and it was my first thought when I clicked on the video. It's impossible to implement that.

[@meesterdinglefritz2064]

I don’t understand the headline? The knife should be sold to whoever has the money, wants the knife and gets there first.

[@maybefrank8345]

^He says 64 seconds into the half hour video😂

[@Jonnygurudesigns]

Exactly.. who's business is it whatever I do with my knives..

[@metal_complex]

Ya it's literally not possible you watched the video my man. You left the comment 2 minutes after the vid dropped lol.

[@meesterdinglefritz2064]

@@metal_complexright. Which is why I mentioned the headline.

[@metal_complex]

@@meesterdinglefritz2064 so generally... Context is given in the video... The headline isn't the context... The video is. That's like saying "The 4th Harry Potter made no sense but I didn't get past the title"

[@OneMinuteKnifeReview]

I agree; ‘ugh! Wanna wanna , gon get get. Wanna mine!’

[@jmuhr8952]

I say first come first serve. Doesn’t really matter to me why someone wants a certain knife. I have a decent amount ranging from $40-$500 and all get carried and used. The level of use and how I may use them does determine what knife I may carry. At the end of the day to each their own.

[@henryg683]

I’m thinking it’s great all the people beating the crap out of their knives and sharpening the heck out of them because it’s making my safe queens worth more because of keeping them in pristine condition!!???? But still have some to use and don’t matter what happens to them!!! And it is frustrating trying to buy certain items that become unobtainable and they are on the secondary being sold for outrageous prices!!!! Have a happy 4th MC and I’ll see you in the next amazing video!!!

[@marty1685]

Lol, you are so correct about us being “hybrids.” I swore up and down that any knife over $100 is just a scam, and I still think diminished returns are really high at that point, but I totally threw that out the window with my first para3… But to the point of your video, first come first served. And for users, does it really matter whether they get the m4 sprint instead of the regular production k390? I’d think that would really only matter to collectors and enthusiasts.

[@OneMinuteKnifeReview]

You said ‘1st para3’……just how many in are ya??

[@marty1685]

@@OneMinuteKnifeReview Just one, but also bought a Bugout in M4, a Benchmade Steep Country in S30v. Also carried a Benchmade 710 for a while. Actually, going to be less of a hybrid. Sold all of the Benchmade knives because they are overpriced junk. Also going to sell the para3, chipped the blade yesterday. Going back to my Buck 110, had it 40 years, never chipped a blade and it’s edge outlasts any modern knife I’ve used, even that M4 that turned out to be complete junk.

[@OneMinuteKnifeReview]

@@marty1685 there is something to be said about reliable….

[@Dondeestalazapateria]

For what is worth..I think you should sell a T-shirt "I argue with imaginary people"

[@crktritual]

I want one too

[@MayhemMechanic]

And people with kids get first dibs on toasters because we have........MANY.......frozen waffles to warm up for breakfast 😂

[@pateralus9]

If someone wants to buy a $10,000 custom knife & then use it only as a doorstop for their outhouse, I definitely don't like that. But they have as much of a right to buy the knife as I do. It doesn't matter what they do with it after opening the package. Of course the thought makes me cringe & definitely hurts my brain, but that's the prerogative of whomever shells out the money.

[@dgripper05]

First come first serve, I only have a problem with people who buy multiples of an item like if a store had 10 and two people came in and bought 5 each

[@HobbyHobbit-ue6oi]

My thoughts for anyone who gives a crap. The last point was the best and I would've commented just that if you had not mentioned it. I personally don't have the budget to buy any knife that people fight over anyway. Good video. 👍👍

[@dackbowland1876]

I’d use an $800 one of a kind knife to cut the jammed seatbelt off me after I wrap my classic split window corvette around a light pole at the take over.

[@theolddoctor4492]

I don’t really have a dog in the user/collector fight. To each his own. It’s the individuals that are in the market solely for resale. These individuals don’t fall into either category. They are just middleman in this solely for profit.

[@aaronmulcahy2004]

Thanks! Great video! I don't like the system, but you have to live it. The chase is part of the acquisition game. They go together.

[@craigrj232323]

I've waited up to five years to find a knife I'm looking for, sad when I miss a drop or have my money tied up when a drop happens. I'm not mad at anybody, but sometimes its frustrating. I do use all my knives. Some get far less pocket time, but a knife that costs a grand and is built to be used is going to be used by me.

[@jessefleming1421]

That’s exactly what happened to me yesterday watching this channel, and I ain’t mad at it. Your epic ramble aside- it’s true. If you have a little extra coin and you’re a “user” you’re going to get a “nice user”. Then those multiply sometimes. I suppose I’m an enthusiast user!

[@ALtheSciencePal]

Here's a point I use that stops "users" in their tracks: There are knives and even multitools that come with their own display case. What's its intended purpose now?? Is one guy gonna display it harder than another? 😂

[@SharpShooterMike]

Honestly, I think it depends on the intent of use. To use a work of art is to simply admire it and discuss what it means and the elaborate processes used to create it. But to use a work horse...you basically placing the knife in non ideal situations continually until it meets it maker....or you do.

[@nycmaverick]

I own about 40 knives and I use all of them, and I own a Ford, and I get up everyday and go to work . I guess I’m unhinged. I think you missed the deeper conversation here but maybe that will be part 2 if you figure it out.

[@Macgyver46]

I think it's more the makers want rare products more then anything. As for me I'm a collector to use the tools. I see no point in buying something to not use it. I even do it with my limited edition highly collectable RC cars. Only way I won't use something is if it was designed as a show piece.

[@realbroggo]

Damn MC - you really need to lecture on philosophy at a Uni or College!! Just spent the last 20 minutes nodding my head and saying 'Yep that's me' or 'Yeah I know guys like that'. Wasn't until the vid finished that I realised it was about knives. Reality is users & collectors need each other. Users create the volume of sales to make the market viable. Collectors push for the variation in the market. My mate collects guitars & has the same dilemma - play the guitar or preserve it? Sharp blades all.

[@cjd1377]

I'd have to say i just experienced this with the new GEC drop.

[@MY-T-SHARP666]

I don't see why it should be that way. Why I buy a knife is my business. I am a collector also in the highend stuff. I miss knives all the time, you just have to be lucky sometimes. Hunting for a certain knife is just the fun of collecting and yes I do use my knives too

[@YPEDC]

NGL this vid had me dying when you were being the “user” guy! 😂

[@DackJaniels_]

8:33 bro that user voice had me dying! sounded like a red dead redemption character lol

[@philvallee645]

Great video MC, thoughtful and funny is always a great combo 😊. I do remember commenting on the topic of use a few months back when one commenter was hesitant to use a knife he’d spent a chunk of change on. My feeling was he should as it might increase his pleasure of ownership but of course there is no definite answer as MC pointed out. Similarly there is no strict definition of ‘user’. I am not in construction, law enforcement, the military, nor do I own a 100 acre spread so my use falls more in the category of breaking down cardboard and other stuff around the house. My Atom checks most of those boxes but when it comes to harder use I’ll turn to my Shaman or XM-18. For those of us who own more than one knife we’ll use the best knife for the job, whatever that may be. When it comes to my being prioritized over another when it comes to a limited drop that’s nuts! We all want what we want cuz let’s face it we probably like the look of the thing and then rationalize all sorts of reasons why it ‘makes sense’ to buy one or two or three whatever. In the end there are as many answers as there are users, enthusiasts and collectors.

[@xmetal280]

People can do whatever they want with their money. That said, I decided long ago to never buy something I’m not going to use. After 30 years of collecting I still only have a dozen knifes, but all get carried and cut, even the top end $700+ knives.

[@roybokelman4215]

The only group I feel I represent are the user, enthusiast, collector that gets news too late to buy a knife and gets grumpy.

[@dan_taninecz_geopol]

Tried for a Les George the other day. Hit "buy" and "PayPal" immediately upon drop, took no more than 2 seconds. They were out.

[@metal_complex]

Same. The darn "collectors" beat me 😂

[@dan_taninecz_geopol]

@@metal_complex bUt i WoUlD uSe iT!!

[@bmc5180]

@8:34 I wish you would do an entire video in that "I use my stuff" voice!

[@louiskoestner4337]

The problem is more the 'collectors who purchase until the item sells out and then puts it up for sale at a' gouge' level price. Some models already self at an inflated price far beyond their value. I'm referring to production knives. Customs are a whole different thing.

[@drek4130]

As a collector and a user I believe that there shouldn't be any priority between the 2. Is a matter of what can we afford, if I can afford to abuse a tool that cost more than average then good, the people that can't afford some of these knives are the ones always complaining. I prefer that people like you and other reviewers get priority regardless because you guys are the ones that promote and show these products that are not shown anywhere else.

[@TerraQuestRC]

It happens in all categories of merchandise; cars, watches, shoes, handbags, etc.. I collect tools, you should see my display of sockets, all gleaming chrome, perfect stamping or laser etch. I need to pause, and calm myself... okay I am being a bit facetious, but there are different levels of performance even in tools and makes some more desirable than others for certain jobs, some hardly ever getting used. But, just knowing you have it if you ever really need it and can flip it to someone or hand them down should the spawn ever need them.

[@BGLK]

This isn't a pity party statement, but as a blind guy the lag time caused by my assistive technology tends to mean that by the time something drops, it is gone before my screen reader can even find it on the page. That is just the way life goes. I don't resent collectors snapping some up, and frankly a lot of the secondary market is powered by collectors making room in their collection for something else. I do get annoyed at people who snap up as many as they can to make a killing on the secondary, but that is the nature of a free market economy. If I really wanted to put my money where my mouth is I could own an AD20 which I covet, but I haven't made that commitment or enlisted the help of someone that can see to assist in the purchas. I have not wanted to risk buying from a private seller, but again that is a choice. Collectors, I wish you luck :)

[@UnklKenny]

I'm not concerned with people using a knife rather than looking at it. However my concern is resellers. I try to get in on a drop and can't cuz some asshole bought 10 or 15 and resell at markup.

[@charlessalmond7076]

Still kinda the same deal to me. They got them first. It sucks but, if nobody bought from scalpers, they'd go away, to a degree.

[@AMR33DRZ]

First come first serve 😂 I collect and use my blades. I tend to buy in pairs of two. Use one keep one mint.

[@martymar1484]

MC, I think this might be the 1st time I have watched a video of yours and have agreed with you 100%.. I truly appreciate the knife community and appreciate the machine work these knife makers are doing. The materials being used and the technology is truly impressive. But let all be honest with ourselves for once. That shirogorov or Rockstead Knife does the same thing that Ontario Rat or Para 3 does. But they look and are cooler. I would say that am a watch person. I know this because I have bought a watch that tells time and spent way much more for then I needed. Especially when I could have spent 60 bucks for a G-Shock and k ow it keeps better time. We all need to relax and embrace that fact that a a certain point we are all enthusiasts.

[@jeffcanfixit]

THANKS M.C‼️ Always enjoy TKG, and listening to you delve into the human physche. 😂👍 If I can buy it I do, if I can't I don't. 👍👍🔪

[@jonathancupp3686]

Whoever, user or not, does the work of tracking these knives and making sure they beat the pack, is who deserves to get the knife. It’s that simple.

[@bionick4281]

I am user, enthusiast, and collector in that specific order! If I miss out on a knife that I have wanted or chased and its in limited number, it’s probably because I didnt have the budget for it! I will never blame someone for beating me to a knife, especially for the budget reason! I have a collection of around 60 knives, and there are dozens that I want that I still dont have and may never have!

[@skipper9400]

the problem with buying into the idea that Users should get knives first is this: if you were to DO that, then you would be agreeing that they are more important than other people.....and they are NOT, PERIOD we're ALL in this together people....I would also suggest to you all that people who are "Collectors" and especially guys like the you-tubers, actually "USE" their knives MORE than any ordinary user. I would also say that there is a very simple way to stop this whole "Problem" in it's tracks, and that is to put a limit on how MANY knives are sold to any one entity...that way, the scalpers will be short-circuited to begin with .....OnWard....

[@Appnin89]

You get some who say they use all of their knives, but have about 400 of them. What the hell is it they do for a living, or in the garden lol. And have about 9 different versions of the Spyderco Para 2.

[@JPK1981]

I'm an enthusiast/user...🤷‍♂️ I like high quality materials that look or feel awesome, but I use them...I have no delusion and I don't mind missing out. Well, my wallet doesn't mind. 🤷‍♂️

[@Sharps_and_i_edc]

User definition as stated by Websters dictionary……someone who’s daily activities require the use of a sharp object to do random task, such as but not limited to, hammering nails, peeling paint/adhesives, spreading peanut butter, fighting velociraptors, drilling through granite, opening mail/packages. Duh

[@JPK1981]

15:20 "what do you use it for" A screwdriver! 😂

[@m4jqp]

Ohhh, this topic except extended to watches instead of pocket knives.

[@adamrobbins2091]

I use my expensive knives, I've scratched zircuti and all em' are off CENTER bwahahaha