Should we buy this 500hp V10-engined daily driver?

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Mike has been going a bit V10-mad lately, be it Dodge Vipers or V10 TVRs. And with his V10 MX-5 project being delayed until 2022, he's decided to get a ready-made V10 in his life as a daily? What should he go for? You decide!

[@Drivetribe]

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[@wild_goose_0285]

BUY IT. AND MAKE AS MUCH CONTENT AS YOU CAN

[@QKvox]

BUY ONE!!

[@animalcol1]

Get an E39 Mike. Much better car

[@johnnyronan6018]

@@animalcol1 true e39 is the best all round bmw imo, has a little bit of everything

[@alexwalsh31]

Brillant video

[@TRHamza]

Thats my dads old car! Crazy seeing that its still around with the numberplate 😂

[@rainoor947]

Lol Hamza that’s crazy, you should try buy it back. Great for your youtube content but bad for the wallet lol

[@mikedrivetribe8314]

No way! How was his experience with it?

[@TRHamza]

@@mikedrivetribe8314 Yeah it’s great to see it’s still out there! There’s a 10 year old revving clip of it on my channel (just sort oldest to new lol) He had it for 5/6 years, it’s been while. From what I remember the only issues were constant 02 sensors. But he took out extended warranty for piece of mind. Sold it when it was on mid 50k mileage. Guessing it’s the had the full works from Mr Vanos now?

[@stopstalkingyouspookybastard]

ulan benim peder bana akbil bile almiyordu millette ne babalar var

[@mezalong]

@@TRHamza no need to lie, mate. 😂

[@ZKhweziN]

I owned one for 6 years... Glorious sound, insane revving engine and incredible acceleration. Mine was derestricted and I took it all the way to 204mph. Just do your rod bearings... Never had a days issue.

[@cwx8]

These cars are amazing, particularly even in manual. You simply have to conduct your maintenance preventatively which is no problem. The issue with these cars is they are affordable, and so most people that pick them up are broke and end up not spending any money on preventative maintenance. Even the SMG is a misunderstood transmission. It has lubrication issues, and is very easy to maintain and prevent from breaking with proper lubrication, that's it.

[@akaadamrg]

Had the M5 and can tell you you're wrong. While the car is absolutely amazing, it broke monthly for years. I had the SMG (it's faster than they say here in it's fastest setting at 65ms.) And while it was only a matter of time, that part didn't break. I did have a gasket leak all the transmission fluid on to my clutch and flywheel ($12,000 gasket failure). Each of the four actuators have weak plastic parts and the teeth wear out on every one. At $1000 each plus hours of labour - just do them all at once. At just 130,000 my catalytic converters were inefficient. All four of them needed to be replaced and two are built into the headers. Want to change the battery? Better have a bmw dealer close. Oil change? 9 liters of $20/l oil. Windshield? $1500 if you have the HUD. But that sound 🤤. I refer to that car as my crazy ex girlfriend. A wicked fun ride but she has some screws loose

[@fatmitch1421]

@@akaadamrg that's what I heard. The v10 is extremely unreliable...

[@furretthefuzzynoodle3896]

Um no BMW’s are completely unreliable. That’s why you find them for cheap in the first place…..

[@cwx8]

@@akaadamrg a lot of what you described could have been prevented and the rest is wear and tear. I am amazed you went 130kmi on the original cats. Not marginalizing your experience just stating that you can catch catastrophic failure before it happens particularly in the case of your gasket which would have been sweating at a minimum. The SMG issue may have been caught if there was preventative maintenance done on the pump.

[@cwx8]

@@furretthefuzzynoodle3896 no. It's just what you get for driving a 500hp v10. It needs tlc. People maintain them like they are a corolla.

[@mildmanneredthinkingman9323]

Mike, If you have sponsors helping you get it done, then great! But, if it was you yourself making the purchase and taking this on, I would have said perhaps it could turn out to be an expensive monster to upkeep.

[@BeardedFrog]

This. Ticking time bomb cars, riddled with problems. Very easily mechanically totalled.

[@therealjamesmartin]

I've bought one recently. Fuel wise, yes they're crippling. And yes, they do love to throw issues at you, most of which aren't too expensive to fix in cost of parts, but if you don't have the ability to diagnose complex problems and replace the parts yourself, it would be very expensive.

[@ivanjovanovic362]

People forgot how to enjoy driving, this car is pure pleasure. Imagine coming back home from work and you just put your foot down and the V10 symphony starts

[@Erik-rp1hi]

I have a 2010 M5 with 14K, yes I don't drive it much but when I do I just go to the canyons for spirited driving. It is a blast of a car. They loosen the bearing tolerances on the mains so the bearing issue is not as bad in the later versions. 2010 was the last year.

[@SKOMPAS]

Ohh I feel like crying when someone mentions an m6 and “trips up to Scotland” in the same sentence there is a reason it has such a massive fuel tank!

[@kevcross7]

Yes. Please do the M5 or M6. It would be nice for someone to go over the pitfalls of the engine and how to properly address them. And see if it’s cost effective as well. Thanks

[@Marz78963]

I'm stateside and have been debating between the M6 or a 645/650 coupe. And this video just made that decision even more harder lol. I work remote so it would be more of a weekend or intown go getter so to speak and once a month where I have to drive from Kentucky to Nashville, TN for company meetings. My income not a problem. However the problem is finding one that has been reasonably kept up.

[@Monir89]

I owned an E60 M5 for 4.5 years after E39 M5 ownership. After the E60 M5 I owned an F10 M5. The E60 M5 is just an Epic car with so much soul and character which the later cars lack even though they have a lot more power. When my SMG pump gave up I decided to converted my E60 M5 to 6 speed manual with OE parts same as North American cars. I have since converted 2 E60 M5 to 6 speed manual in the UK and onother on its way. I loved my E60 M5 both in SMG and 6 speed manual, it has so much soul and character its pretty much irreplaceable with anything else and you should 100% go for it and do a buy.

[@bobcartledge5250]

Mike, you are still young. Patience will put you in a V10 soon enough, and it will be a special V10 from a unique manufacturer in a sports-built chassis from a reputable company. The BMW is just you not being willing to wait.

[@sethervin6011]

I definitely think you should buy an m6 I personally think that it looks better than the m5 of the same era and you really don’t see them anymore

[@KurtV8]

I owned an E60 M5 a few years ago. As you say in the video, there are many reasons NOT to own an S85 engine with SMG box. But here I am, watching V10 videos and pondering buying another. They are outstanding value compared with the competition. Go for it!

[@parkeryoung9165]

The M6 is a beast! I got to drive one once and the engine note made me shake in the knees. Do it!

[@bryan-nz]

An OK at best, money pit, just for V10 kudos.. the idea of possessing it is almost certainly more exciting than actually having it (like your high-school crush). No one will be able to convince you not to get into it, but as soon as you have it you'll start to look for something else.

[@Noobmaster-bj9xl]

Yessss 😍❤️ that's my dream car... The E60 M5 actually

[@aaronfarrell516]

The Rod bearings in my opinion is due to the Electronic Oil Level Test. The oil level readings are most of the time inaccurate and delayed resulting to catastrophic Rod bearing Failures.

[@renegade1749]

Love the V10 but in the M5. But knowing BMW and their quirks, I stayed away.. Funny enough I went with an XFR and now deal with Jaguars quirks 😂

[@Elwon20]

I know your feels.

[@IronMan3582]

Love all the fall leaves caught in the front grill

[@rampage3337]

the gearbox is tuned to shift slowly. you can actually tune the gearbox to shift faster. buy it!

[@060steve]

V10’s are the best-sounding engines Period

[@markoverton5858]

Rs4 avant v8 4.2 no turbos 8.250 Rev band , 450 hp with mil tech exhaust inlet tweaks delimited hp will be up there and the 200 mph, add dynamic gearbox 4x4, finally the estate back is real handy 👍👍👍👍👍

[@har234908234]

Do it Mike... and while you're at it organize some sponsorship for the rest of us.

[@mikehipperson]

That SMG box sounds like a Wilson pre-selecter bus gear box! Go down a gear as you approach a corner and up again on the way out and it will sort itself out, eventually!

[@findlay234]

You'll look back and regret it if you don't.... Speaking as owner of a silly 4.8i X5... Just sounds amazing! 😊

[@michaelhiggins7072]

Not to mention it was developed during V10 era in F1 when BMW was top PU in F1. This makes it any BMW F1 fans #1 in my opinion. Will appreciate for awhile too

[@jaybruce593]

I'm going to say yes, I daily drive an e63 635d, and with little more than a mild remap and some decent tyres, 3 years into ownership, I still have that look back at the car over the shoulder as you walk away from it.

[@dannydore8038]

Mike makes boring car specs sound interesting 10/10 would drivetribe

[@nathanprofitt9224]

Get one asap. I want to see you do the gearbox swap

[@kristianolsenlarsen]

By all means do it! But watch out for the rod bearings as you mentioned yourself, and you HAVE to manual convert it though!

[@dailydriven991]

Get the rod bearings done and it’ll be solid.

[@andresvillamil6318]

I really want to like this car and have been very conflicted. Go ahead, make me love it

[@ajolillen]

This video is among the best you've made! Production value, camera work, soundtrack, the car... and Mike is as adorable as ever! Love this video! And YES! You should go for it!

[@saurabhkulkarni8854]

Get those rod bearings inspected and go for it mate. This thing is awesome.

[@mattman8569]

New Sub! I own a e64 with 55k miles. Would love to see you do a series on my dream car!!

[@darrenaquilina1403]

I love this model, cracking car in and out. 👌🏽❤️

[@DaleSteel]

My combined mpg never ever got above 13mpg. That's when they were new too. I was dusting a grand a week on fuel some weeks but I was 24 years old and was cool af

[@jamessheehy4895]

Great video! More of these please

[@J15umm]

Yeah go on do it. It would be brilliant. As you say there is something about the sound of a V10.

[@zeldris2779]

The car is beautiful, its got a v10 500hp.i think u should full send

[@the_urbanphantom]

Yes get one if possible.

[@P8FPV]

Only thing it needs is a bit of PDR above the drivers door handle 😉👍

[@flying_nimbus7852]

Yes you should.....please let me live my dream of buying a badass car through you

[@jamest5149]

The biggest but is the tank range, everything else can be fixed but a 200 mile range is EV bad and just gets very old quickly.

[@grovsey3656]

You can pull over and put more fuel in. Takes 5 mins.

[@amazingzone8659]

take it on. not even a question!

[@streetrider1987]

I would definitely owe one E60 or E63 models M cars because S85 engine. Of course it has lots of cons. But those, it is still astonishing.

[@amondo3357]

You forgot about the e61, that's the one you want, all the horses all the space!

[@ashystyle]

Yes, take the money and buy and fix it up!

[@evansisgreat]

A 650i with a manual box would make a much more sensible daily. More MPG, no unreliable SMG still an interesting engine up front.

[@joelmilliner341]

But its not not an M6. These are not meant to be sensible cars either- just for the thrill. You not going to get that in a 650i lol

[@paul29961]

I had the M5 with the same S85 engine. Great for a long commute but around town impossible.

[@filippoformoso9690]

Weirdly enough, I think the best cheap GT on the used market is one of the most underrated ones, the Mk2 Jaguar XK, it does exactly what you want a GT to do without any of the drawbacks of something like this one! And if you want bags of power, the supercharged ones have loads to spare 😉

[@stevemawer848]

Great advice - I've had a 2001 XK8, 2004 XKR and 2010 XKR and they've all been great. Oh, and reliable (quirk-free!), which many won't believe (especially if they've never owned one). And they don't look like 90% of other cars on the road, too. I've now got an F-Type V8 R AWD and that blows the XKR out of the park (space notwithstanding!).

[@carlosorozco4786]

I think this would be a cool project car for the channel.

[@MrAmps]

Come on… mpg in 2021? Cost alone has to put you off??

[@kevinwiltshire2217]

They should put that motor in the Z4

[@marky59]

That would be a yes from me - I love it :)

[@AutoBeta2T]

Get it! Interlagos Blue is so nice 😊

[@blxtothis]

Where’s the tow bar for the petrol trailer?

[@Shmayd]

yes buy it but also give it the standard front end back

[@tomdudley2876]

Yes do it !! These are being slept on at the minute they’re bound to jump in price soon

[@tomwebb7091]

The E60 M5 was the best car ive ever owned despite its faults (for me the gearbox at low speed and a little midrange torque hole likely correctable by remap). I did drive an M6 version and i will accept it drove somewhat better handling wise you could feel the balance was notably better with weight saving in the right places. With eibach springs and 12mm spacers both the M5 and M6 look as they should without any compromises because my only other gripe is the front ride height and backward lean when stationary robbing the car of purpose While it seemed weird the US market got a manual (a market that loves an auto i might add!) unlike EU only getting SMG ive read the manual is like a stick in a bucket of stones and pretty awful. In fact i found the nr identical 6 spd manual of the e46 M3 a sloppy horrid mess too. I actually prefer the SMG but would i go back to V10 M5/M6 id go back with £40k with a full rod bearing update and 7spd DCT conversion in mind with a few goodies like Eventuri intake, long tube headers on to IPE F1 exhaust and some mild suspension tweaks. The brakes were abit suspect too now i think of it fading rather fast

[@MikeAllan89]

I have an E92 M3 - the S65 engine is supposedly derived from the S85. The MPG isn't great - currently sitting at 15mpg combined. The V10 will be worse. Having said that, its worth every penny in fuel, road tax (about £600 a year) and the inevitable M tax on parts. If you have the itch, scratch it. Life is too short and eventually we won't be able to drive cars like this. I would say go for the E61 M5 if you can find one. They are rare beasts but look the best out of the S85 driven cars.

[@DouglasJWalker]

yes but a manual and NOT as a daily but for trips to Scotland

[@brianpercival1829]

If you buy one, get all the faults sorted right down to the 'Smallest Cog.'

[@richardcook2674]

I had an M5 loved buy the fuel drove me crazy...single figures as you have to push the car to get going....M5 looks better than the M6...

[@lukeskywalker1574]

Wouldnt touch it for the vanos alone. Ticking bombs those BMWs.

[@l8erzmonkey]

There are only ropy ones atm well above 15k maybe if you made this vid 6 months ago before the inflation of used cars I wld like one tho the engine sounds amazing with custom exhaust

[@MrZattack101]

Mike sounds very simular to the evil Scotsman in the new King's Man movie.

[@jmccarsnmore1025]

YES!! You should buy it!!

[@R-Tap]

If that V10 grenades itself, known to be junk! And the SMG. ..... Still, cool car. Buy one for special days.

[@mrbillhilly343]

What's the point in having a V10 when your roads are congested with speed cameras? Unless the UK has autobahns, there's no point owning a V10 when you can barely do 70mph on a major road.

[@adamwoodford7629]

That's like saying why do people buy Rolex watches when you might as well wear a Casio. People buy Rolex because they're sick..

[@tonson5214]

10 grand? What a steal.

[@lupuscutis]

Is there an English spoken version or with subtitles? Might be interesting.

[@sotirispolitis4617]

The only real downside is engine reliability, if you can deal with that it's 100% worth it

[@melvinthemechanic]

What about the 1000 hp chevy crate engine

[@LuGer212]

V10 500hp BMW 6-series as a daily for high mileage trips? *a poor 2.0l TDI series engine sheds a tear upon hearing this thought* anyhow: DO IT!

[@WillReynoldsSmith]

People are finally beginning to wake up to just how undervalued these cars are. Their reputation has been unfairly tarnished by people who’ve never owned one talking nonsense about them. If you know BMW’s you’ll know the E46 and E9X M3, E39 and F10 M5 are no better reliability wise than this car, and in some cases even worse. If you want to know what unreliable looks like try owning an early S63 twin-turbo V8

[@dragonsickness4561]

Pretty unstylish for a beamer. They forget to style it?

[@richardn.5548]

Yes. Buy one

[@callummccubbing4506]

This should have been a 1.30 video, the answer is obviously yes!

[@abdurrehman19999]

This is not a daily driver due to its unreliability although it can be a weekend getaway car Also front shape is sort of sad looking however rear is bit growing

[@aapenstal-aapje]

try a ford fista st line! Maybe you like it!

[@Goodman-4525]

Hey I'm just wondering, are all car journalists wealthy enough to splash 10k plus on a car that could easily double that on repair bills? Or are you considering owning that just because sponsors could mitigate the costs?

[@JaydenDimaio]

Just choose a daily driver you like and put a V10 and a 6 speed manual in that. It's not like you don't know how or have the means.

[@pafa92]

8:39 Jesus Chris. I believed you when you said it was slow. I just never thought it was thaaaaat slow!!

[@TheM5Dog]

It's slow as it's in the wrong gearbox logic setting. In s5/s6 the change is very quick.

[@iPhone3GSCase]

Nutty combo tho

[@mrhansros]

The host voice sounded like mike boyd. Lol

[@brianterrill9587]

YES! And add 2 Superchargers!

[@eminent0405]

YOU CAN DO IT!! PLEASE!

[@urs335i]

First of all , you have to sort the front bumper of this car ! It’s hidyous

[@tom18181]

Be cool to see it as a daily

[@Faithinthedock]

I'll be honest, I find the M6 (well the entire E63 platform) a very jarring looking thing. Especially since as a young bloke my mate had an 80's E24 635csi and I had the E28 M535i, so the E63 was always a visual disaster to me. If you have sponsorship for the repairs (and cheap labour) then why not? The V10 with the 'M' button on will be a drama every trip. For a lowly private 'punter', it's technical for the sake of technical, has a disengaging gearbox and repair costs that would be better put into something less compromised. The values are right on this one. It's a bit of a stinker, albeit a blisteringly fast, briefly entertaining one..

[@samool7311]

Id love to see an M6 project car

[@jondonnelly3]

Could pay off a mortgage for what this costs to run as a daily each month.

[@rg6982]

That is one stunning car!!!!!

[@enrikoaleksiev2238]

The cabrio is 2 tons

[@filmgunproductions4448]

Drivetribe likes v10s so much they're eventually gonna make a video titled "putting a V10 in a V10"

[@PHFilms3]

My friend owns one… this car is amazing. He bought it for 25k has put easily 30k into it… this is why they are cheap Lol

[@nielsgrotjohann4061]

I dont like the M4 Bumper. I also had a E63 M6 in interlagosblue for 4 years und fliped it for a dodge viper. They are pretty unreliable...

[@user-bd9qk2nu2q]

it's M6 bumper rep (f series)

[@billmeldrum2509]

Go for it!🇨🇦